No, he's not my guy 😂 have you been following his case? He was proven inocent but marvel had already fired him as soon as the allegations came@mikac2002
The more I’m thinking about it, the more I’m realizing that Doomsday and Secret War are probably gonna be the most expensive movies ever made because of actors alone.
@@raydology Ooooh buddy I have my doubts that’ll offset costs much. Not to mention I bet they’ll bring back the actually Tony Stark in some way since RDJ is right there anyways.
I’ll see it once I’m not excited about it now the whole nug Surprised was ruined like imagine if we didn’t know this whole time took release who was playing doom or even till the next avengers or secret wars whatever is coming first
The dead celestial might not only be adamantium but also hold a lot of cosmic energy still. Maybe that cosmic energy Doom uses is from that Celestial as you said. I also think whatever is done will remove the celestial from the earth when new earth is formed but remnants of adamantium will be on the earth. That means there won't be a giant celestial body sticking out of the earth forever.
It would be cool if Dr Doom kills all variants of Kang but leaves mcu version of Iron-Lad to survive, that would be good way to recast Kang and reintroduce him for the next saga
@@wilbsrt that idea is the best idea I've heard of, I forgot iron lad was a kang variant. It would be the most compelling way to preserve the whole kang angle
I think doom wants to become whatever Loki is now but over his own multiverse. Doom always wants to have a toy of his own but it must be equal or greater then anyone else's.
This storyline is so awesome... I wish they write a screenplay that can bring this to action. Literally have Doomsday be the 'Age of Doom' starting years back from the Infinity saga, and showing how Doom played a role in screwing everything for the heroes in the Multiverse saga... Avengers Doomsday be more like 'Avergers' Doomsday, ironically an Avengers film, but more realisitcally an origin story, and setup, and elevation for Dr. Doom... Let Secret Wars (and all the movies in between) deal with the consequences, but please oh please let Doomsday be the absolute darkest story the MCU films have ever shown...
Just had a wild thought, what if the ancient knife Sersi gives to early humans in Eternals is actually the first-ever version of Adamantium? With Adamantium set to be introduced in the MCU and likely coming from the Celestial's body that Sersi turned into an island, it would be an epic callback to reveal that the knife was forged from this metal. Imagine Cap discovering this ancient relic in Brave New World, it would tie the MCU's past and future together so perfectly, and set up the introduction of Adamantium in such a cool way!
Bro you need to send your theory to Kevin Feige. Your idea is very appealing and efficient it really works. It would link everything together past present and future
Cool. Now if only we could get 8 years to build up a villian like Doom to tell this story. Instead, they are rushing him out. Or at least that's how ot feels
This was the one question I ALWAYS had after watching D&W like 3 times lmao. Wolverine should’ve died I was thinking, right? Someone did tell me Deadpool didn’t try cutting his head off so that makes sense lol but yea.
I can't believe it was only six years from Avengers to Infinity War. The six years since 2018 haven't been anywhere near as impactful. Immortan Joe would call it "Mediocre".
I just left a comment about how nothing has made sense since end game. None of the movies connect, some story lines finish in TV shows which is a pretty bad idea imo and other shows don’t even relate to the story. Movies don’t go anywhere. What happened to Shang chi in the past 3 years?? I enjoyed that movie but there has yet to be been a peep in the end of movies or anywhere of Shang chi, dr strange, black panther, new iron lad, or anything. Like the movies or not, WHERE DID THEY GO???
Everybody and everything hit their ceilings, nothing can go on forever It was a great run, they should’ve just ended everything after endgame. Waited until they got X-men and fantastic 4 and create a whole new universe.
I truly think that a lot of this stuff in the last few years will be remembered much better once it wraps, much like how dark world is more beloved now than it was before endgame released.
While I agree that since Endgame things haven't been nearly as impactful, you're also forgetting that the Multiverse Saga really only started in 2021....2019 and 2020 had pretty much nothing released. 2021 still had good content (Eternals was just kind of irrelevant, not necessarily bad) even though I do agree shit got weird in the last couple years. I still think that the overall story arc had continuity, as Shang Chi, No Way Home, Multiverse of Madness, Loki, Quantumania, The Marvels, and Deadpool and Wolverine all either hint at the collapse of the Multiverse and/or reference to Kang being behind the entire thing.
I liked it when they did the trilogy styled series, Cap1-3, Ironman1-3, even though it was set in the larger Avengers1-3/4, it all worked. Even the 2Hulk movies tied together and into Avengers1, which goes into his 2nd trilogy, Avengers2, Thor3, Avengers3/4
I mean they were mining knowhere for all sorts of stuff. Materials and tech that are advanced on Earth aren't that special or unique out in the universe. Like Uru is just out there, as is whatever Thanos's sword was made of.
I agree with you that if Marvel uses Doom’s creation of Battleworld as their “soft reset,” it would be the best idea they’ve ever had! I also believe that finish Phase 6 with that one film slated after Secret Wars and it take place on Battleworld. I hope phase 7 then takes place on Battleworld, I just honestly don’t want this Doom introduced and defeated all in the same phase.
As always, this channel is opening the door to so many insane possibilities, in the PERFECT way. I really hope the Russo bros are watching!! One thing I could see happening is the Symbiote showing up in Secret Wars, finally - super powering Tom’ Peter Parker in order to better stand a chance against Doom, the spitting image of his father figure (or weird uncle, depends). This would happen in front of Tobey’s Peter, much to his anguish/despair, but Tom would refuse to separate from the Symbiote, as it is what’s allowing him to detach emotionally and fight Doom. Either they could make the Symbiote arc exist solely in Secret Wars or leave it at the end, locked away after Tom’s Peter promises a dying Tobey’s Peter (yes, I want that heartbreak in Secret Wars) to never bond with it again, but have Tom’s Peter look back at the lockbox hinting at the Symbiote’s return. My head’s spinning with ideas after every video of yours - keep em coming!!!
Pretty sure with how the MCU changed Thanos' motivation to impressing and winning the heart of death to overpopulation control, that they most likely will change Dr. Doom's motivation for absolute power to save his mother from Mephisto's realm(Mephisto has still YET to be introduced), to something else. And his mom might not be present/used in the mcu. Remember the MCU is not really going for comic accurateness and moreso rather do their own thing or their own take of characters/events.
According to some insiders(high chance of being false), Galctus will travel to the 616 universe during The Fantastic Four: First Steps movie to devour Earth 616. Maybe they can use that to set up Doom basically defeating Celestials, Galactus and hopefully Kang variants to harness their Energy, Knowledge and Technology, combined with his own Mystic Arts, Science and Sorcery that will help him reshape the entire Mutliverse and become God-Emperor Doom. This would also tie F4 to coming into 616 alongside the Multiversal Heroes, Anchor Beings that you've mentioned in this video lead by Strange.
@@yungKaution100 At this point the character roster is going to be very high, but about half will just be cameos. For sure, the Fantastic Four, the Thunderbolts and the Avengers (Cap, Thor, Strange, Spidey, Black Panther, Ant Man, Hawkeye, Hulk, Captain Marvel, Shang Chi & maybe Daredevil) will be in these movies. The alternate reality heroes like Deadpool, Wolverine, and the other Spider Men will be in it. And I bet you in Secret Wars the Scarlet Witch will reappear. I think those characters are for sure going to be in these next ones, and many of them will be killed. In fact, I'm betting that Ant Man, the Wasp, and Hawkeye will die. The Eternals are simply not popular, they will probably just be cameos, as will the Young Avengers, except maybe Kate Bishop and Kamala Khan. The Guardians are a toss-up, they might be cameos though.
@@hiphipjorge5755 Bro i know they are going to be in the avengers movies. Yours saying they will be in Fantastic 4, Because you say Galactis is going to come to the 616 in that movie. which means they would all have to show up in Fantastic 4. Which they wont. We will only see the Fantastic 4 vs Galactis and we might see doom. Galactis will come to the 616 later.
@@yungKaution100Bro I meant like, they can set up Galactus entering the 616 in the Fantastic Four and then all the Doom and Celestials shit would happen in Doomsday. I didn't mean to say that all of that would take place The Fantastic Four: First Steps.
Adamantium is going to be able to absorb any kind of radiation including Gamma which is why Leader is involved in the plot to control access to the supply to the material. The Leader can mind control or manipulate people with gamma enhancements. Adamantium can neutralize gamma radiation. Doom should steal Ultron or Vision's designs to create an armor of Doombots to invade Wakanda and take what he needs. If/when combined with vibranium in Doom's armor he can absorb and manipulate all forms of energy. Doom will use his upgraded Adamantium/ Vibranium armor to siphon and steal reality-altering power from characters like Franklin Richards, Silver Surfer, Wanda Maximoff, and Galactus. Having stolen their powers he is free to confront Loki or Kang Beyonder (if that subplot is still developed)
Doom should be revealed to have been the benefactor of Ant-Man and Wasp. Doom should be revealed to be the financial backer for Fisk's political campaign. Doom should be revealed to be the funder and researcher behind the tinkerer and powerbroker. Doom should be revealed to have inadvertently created Kang(s) with his creation of the time platform. Doom takes responsibility and destroys Kang(s) and claims the relics Kang created- some combination of Ten rings, Quantum bands, Darkhold, Necroblade, and/or Ebony Blade. When Doom confronts Kang - Kang (recast) claims to be the heir to Doom's legacy- Doom responds by saying Doom is his own legacy before destroying him.
1:30.... Slight correction... Wolverine's skeleton isn't made of adamantium, it's been coated in adamantium. He originally had a normal (for him anyway) skeleton with bone claws that came out.
"originally" is wrong , his skeleton was coated yes, but he had no claws until installed by the weapon x program. I can provide proof in the form of the 1st edition of Marvel trading cards as well as books. The "bone claws" is retcon crap.
@@rufustwashingtonsmartybrit5905 Ahhh... interesting! Sorry, I'm not that familiar with the comic book continuity. I was just commenting on the Fox films. So I learned something today! Thanks!
Do we think they could possibly going full Children’s Crusade? I feel like it can’t be a coincidence that the Scarlet Witch disappears and then they announce RDJ as Doom. And then release a show with one of Wanda’s children? Sounds like a perfect set up if you ask me. Doom trying to steal the Scarlet Witch’s power for himself? I needdddd itttt
I hope this Doom is from the 838 Universe, It would be dope to see his perspective of Reed Richards getting killed by Wanda while she was influenced by Multiverse Magic.
What if he's been hiding in the Witches' Road? Beaten by the FF in his home universe, he's now plotting the perfect setup from the shadows. Teen has a piece of Wanda's magic from the Wundagore blast and seeks Agatha's help to survive the trials and revive Wanda. Maybe Doom absorbs Wanda's powers. Chaos magic + Adamantium = pretty much indestructible and unbeatable.
The Rock (1996) effectively portrayed a compelling villain character 30 years ago. Ed Harris's portrayal elicited sympathy from the audience, but the character's actions were unambiguously immoral. This is an example of well-written villainy - creating a character that the audience can understand, even if they don't condone their behavior. Conversely, good hero writing often explores the character's internal struggle with the 'dark side' of their nature. A great example is Luke Skywalker's battle against the temptation of the dark side in the Star Wars saga. When heroes falter and fail to live up to their ideals, it creates higher stakes and more impactful consequences. This internal conflict and the consequences of their choices are key elements of compelling heroic storytelling.
3:46 "take you on one hell of a ride", marvel vs capcom 2 character select theme "I wanna take you for a ride" , marvel vs capcom 3 the main boss is Galactus, Capcom characters will be introduced in the MCU as cannon. JK........I wish
The MCU and the X-men universe does fit pretty well together, most of the MCU happens from the 2000’s (besides the first avengers and captain marvel) onwards while the new X-men timeline takes place between the 60’s through the 90’s. A time when the world didn’t really have any hero’s. Having both timelines slam together with the X-men being the hero’s through the 90s then being forced to go into hiding and then the avengers take over with the power gap
I love your vids where I know I will need to watch it more than once to probably absorb all the info EDIT - just realised that might look sarcastic but it's 100% genuine. Usually means it's the potential for something exciting. Off the top of my head as an example, you did one about what the Mutant Saga could look like, think I watched that three or four times
Adamant is a common term for synthetically polished Marble, so I guess they can only get Adamantium from Tiamut because Sersi turned him into Marble, which means it will be a limited amount like Vibranium. I don't think they are going to harvest Celestials, or else OrgoCorp would probably have been made out of Adamantium.
I'm beginning to like this version of Victor Vin Doom, BUT, why would he give Bob such power(million exploding suns) when he could wield it himself...for the betterment of all of course.
In Endgame, remember how Hulk was reminded a few times to ONLY snap back the people that died to avoid any disruption? What if Tony didn't have the clear mind when he snapped and he also wished that he'd come back when he snapped Thanos?
Not a comic book reader… is that plot line taken from the comics? I think it’s an interesting idea, but how would he get to 616 to influence stuff if he only got there post infinity war?
@@TwiliiteHonestly makes sense. Perhaps he thinks Tony makes a mistake in working with the Avengers and all the mistakes they made leading up to the Infinity Wars and takes a different path.
I think you're onto something with the adamantium being what saved Wolverine and Deadpool, I was a bit confused as to how they survived that but now it makes sense, it was the adamantium that helped them survive. Great work with that theory, I think it makes perfect sense.
Richards is a man of science. Magic is like snake oil and holistic medicine. Magic is always lazy and sloppy. It does whatever the plot wants without any consideration for consistency.
@@thegreatthrasher The difference is science gives you something real to anchor to, even if it's fiction. With magic there are no rules so it starts to contradict itself.
I'M SO HERE FOR THIS!!! Marvel should really do some form of this, it really helps connect everything and is so interesting (just not sure about the doom looking like tony part)
I mean what if Doom isn’t even the main big bad? I hope Doomsday gives Doom all the screen time and attention just to set up the Beyonder as the big bad of Secret Wars
Again, the multiverse. Hope im wrong, but usually everything that complex, usually scares away the normal public. there isn't enough nerds out there to help such expensive movies turn a profit. Again, i hope im wrong.
Deadpool and Wolverine blew up, I know people who don't even watch Marvel movies get excited about it. And it involved the concept of the multiverse. I don't think it's that hard to understand. You go back trough time, do something that isn't supposed to happen and then BOOM, you have created a new branch on Yggdrasil which is the new outcome. They have some great writers there, and 99% chance they can simplify concept of the multiverse even to those who aren't marvel nerds.
@@itzjin9017 I think where the disconnect forms when we are forced to watch shows or movies we’d never watch any other time just so we can fully understand the multiverse because most casuals aren’t gonna go watch Loki which is a critical part of the multiverse saga to actually understand it
@@Hehehehem Loki basically is the explanation for everything right now. Yeah, to understand Marvel's concept of the multiverse you do have to watch Loki. But atleast it's not a show like She-Hulk, it's watchable, full of emotions and character development. But, correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Loki like the foundation you need to watch to understand Marvel's multiverse? I don't think it mentions incursions in there but you can just watch that Mr. Fantastic scene and understand it. But, maybe they will start to simplify things from now on.
the way how i understands the explanation makes me wonder, until what saga can i live to watch all of it? is my remaining lifetime enough? ahahaha i love the explanation. thanks guys.
2:55 You're spot on about there not being enough time. Secret Wars really seems like it's gonna reset everything and there's still so many threads left hanging. The J. Majors stuff probably caused a lot of that but I still want to see the same characters continue their stories. Marvel should do some anthology show like "What if...?" But live action and have God of Stories Loki be the guide. Call it "God of Stories", or "Loki: God of Stories". But have it be a show of it's own rather than a "Loki season 3". And Loki could be slightly 4th wall breaking to show the viewer the wrap ups of all the hanging threads of the MCU that never got sequel films/seasons. 9:00 Also that is a really good point. I was going to say that Tony could've done so many other things with the stones to stop Thanos but then I realized he probably would've died no matter what he did. (from harnessing the stones I mean) Tony just took the most probable solution.
As always- great video! However, the only thing that I will remember from this video, is that for the 438th time, you say, "and so-and-so is the most powerful character in Marvel...." when referring to Sentry/Bob.... just like you have done with countless other characters before. I'm not saying it's a bad thing (I actually laugh every time I hear it), just that it really sticks out to me. 😂
Sounds really good it makes a lot of sense. I just really hope that they show Dr Doom killing all of the Kangs since they're not going to continue with that Saga. I don't care if the scene is 10 seconds to 2 minutes long it really should happen. And show a snippet of the flashback when the banished one- kang- was dying and he said that something worse was coming meaning that he was actually talking about Doctor Doom.
I do believe Doom will get his power(s) from celestials. More specifically From Galactus. The MCU doesn't necessarily need to introduce the Beyonders to us. They can just have Galactus take their place. And as Galactus is rumoured to be the antagonist in the Fantastic Four movie, this can be the perfect opportunity for Doom to swoop in and take his powers. Honestly, it would be the most on brand thing Doom could do 😅🤷♂️ It's an easy enough plot to get the wheels in motion for the next 2 Avengers movies
How bout this for connectivity? Anthony & Victor Stark, twins, separated at Birth without either knowing. That explains Doom looking like Stark. 1 raised by the Starks & 1 raised by the Von Doom Family, just in 2 different Universes.
Going by the last couple of years of Marcel content, I’m gonna say that they’re turning Doom into Tony’s unknown half brother who’s been brought up without money and who’s now pissed. Kinda like iron man 2.
When you talk about adamantium absorbing magic, and wolvering absorbing the energy from the time ripper why do i feel like you just explained why were going to see the hot claws come out at some point 😂
We need a clear description of the multiverse vs. Timelines. The TVA controls timelines but not different multiverses. There must be different TVAs in each reality. They are confusing longitude and latitude. Time is longitudinal, multiverses, and latitudinal. A different timeline isn't a different reality, but thats what they seem to be doing.
What if Doom can separate his physical and astral forms and travel the multiverse in his astral form? He is a powerful sorcerer after all. If he’s part of the dying world the F4 are on, but he finds a planet with an inhabitable body of Tony Stark, with all of the Stark technology, he slips into that body and looks like Tony, but is in fact, Victor Von Doom. I’m trying to come up with a way that is more creative than just being a variant that looks like Tony Stark. If they have similar goals for protecting their world, it makes him a sort of sympathetic villain, which I’m not a fan of, but that’s probably how he’s going to be portrayed. Sympathetic.
Hope they somehow show Doom defeating Council of Kangs, intead of just completely ignoring that Kang ever existed.
Watch Loki season 2
Oooor they just bring back Kang after Doom.
Also the actor is in jail 💀
No, he's not my guy 😂 have you been following his case? He was proven inocent but marvel had already fired him as soon as the allegations came@mikac2002
Watch Loki season 2
The more I’m thinking about it, the more I’m realizing that Doomsday and Secret War are probably gonna be the most expensive movies ever made because of actors alone.
AI & CGI bro...they might be paying them half the money they don't need them
@@Puoy513 Ew
Not really their replacing Tony Starks because his suits were getting too expensive to make! Where Dr Doom will be much cheaper 😂
@@raydology Ooooh buddy I have my doubts that’ll offset costs much. Not to mention I bet they’ll bring back the actually Tony Stark in some way since RDJ is right there anyways.
I’ll see it once I’m not excited about it now the whole nug Surprised was ruined like imagine if we didn’t know this whole time took release who was playing doom or even till the next avengers or secret wars whatever is coming first
RDJ starting, rebirthing, ending and rebooting the MCU is wild in my head 😭
Not only is Doctor Doom one of my favorite villains of all time but he's also one of my favorite rappers.
Underrated comment
MF DOOM all caps when you spell the man name
Doctor doom and MF DOOM are two different entities
All caps
Are you ready to watch Marvel ruin him?
The dead celestial might not only be adamantium but also hold a lot of cosmic energy still. Maybe that cosmic energy Doom uses is from that Celestial as you said. I also think whatever is done will remove the celestial from the earth when new earth is formed but remnants of adamantium will be on the earth. That means there won't be a giant celestial body sticking out of the earth forever.
It would be cool if Dr Doom kills all variants of Kang but leaves mcu version of Iron-Lad to survive, that would be good way to recast Kang and reintroduce him for the next saga
Or he could just kill all of them and when the world is reset we have a new world and a new Kang shows up.
Pass. Boring plot.
@@wilbsrt that idea is the best idea I've heard of, I forgot iron lad was a kang variant. It would be the most compelling way to preserve the whole kang angle
@@gilbertooliverajr8559it's spelled kangle
Harley Keener could just become Iron lad he has all the tech to do it.
I think doom wants to become whatever Loki is now but over his own multiverse. Doom always wants to have a toy of his own but it must be equal or greater then anyone else's.
I feel John Krasinski has explained incursion to us enough now...
Somehow Palpatine returned 😂
Yeah, he should stick to close-up magic tricks.
😂 i was gonna say the same thing
Incursion?
Yeah I’m getting pretty sick of that clip by now 😂
This storyline is so awesome... I wish they write a screenplay that can bring this to action. Literally have Doomsday be the 'Age of Doom' starting years back from the Infinity saga, and showing how Doom played a role in screwing everything for the heroes in the Multiverse saga...
Avengers Doomsday be more like 'Avergers' Doomsday, ironically an Avengers film, but more realisitcally an origin story, and setup, and elevation for Dr. Doom...
Let Secret Wars (and all the movies in between) deal with the consequences, but please oh please let Doomsday be the absolute darkest story the MCU films have ever shown...
Just had a wild thought, what if the ancient knife Sersi gives to early humans in Eternals is actually the first-ever version of Adamantium? With Adamantium set to be introduced in the MCU and likely coming from the Celestial's body that Sersi turned into an island, it would be an epic callback to reveal that the knife was forged from this metal. Imagine Cap discovering this ancient relic in Brave New World, it would tie the MCU's past and future together so perfectly, and set up the introduction of Adamantium in such a cool way!
Bro you need to send your theory to Kevin Feige. Your idea is very appealing and efficient it really works. It would link everything together past present and future
Cool. Now if only we could get 8 years to build up a villian like Doom to tell this story. Instead, they are rushing him out. Or at least that's how ot feels
20:48 don’t forget deadpool’s swords were also adamantium
My sentiments exactly
This was the one question I ALWAYS had after watching D&W like 3 times lmao. Wolverine should’ve died I was thinking, right? Someone did tell me Deadpool didn’t try cutting his head off so that makes sense lol but yea.
TVA is outside of the MCU timeline
Limitless energy. Indestructible metal and massively resilient healing factor.
I can't believe it was only six years from Avengers to Infinity War. The six years since 2018 haven't been anywhere near as impactful. Immortan Joe would call it "Mediocre".
I just left a comment about how nothing has made sense since end game. None of the movies connect, some story lines finish in TV shows which is a pretty bad idea imo and other shows don’t even relate to the story. Movies don’t go anywhere. What happened to Shang chi in the past 3 years?? I enjoyed that movie but there has yet to be been a peep in the end of movies or anywhere of Shang chi, dr strange, black panther, new iron lad, or anything. Like the movies or not, WHERE DID THEY GO???
I'll Await Your Arrival, as I McFeast In ValHalla!
Everybody and everything hit their ceilings, nothing can go on forever It was a great run, they should’ve just ended everything after endgame. Waited until they got X-men and fantastic 4 and create a whole new universe.
I truly think that a lot of this stuff in the last few years will be remembered much better once it wraps, much like how dark world is more beloved now than it was before endgame released.
While I agree that since Endgame things haven't been nearly as impactful, you're also forgetting that the Multiverse Saga really only started in 2021....2019 and 2020 had pretty much nothing released. 2021 still had good content (Eternals was just kind of irrelevant, not necessarily bad) even though I do agree shit got weird in the last couple years. I still think that the overall story arc had continuity, as Shang Chi, No Way Home, Multiverse of Madness, Loki, Quantumania, The Marvels, and Deadpool and Wolverine all either hint at the collapse of the Multiverse and/or reference to Kang being behind the entire thing.
The ten rings could be discovered to be adamantium already charged with magic. That would explain a lot about their capabilities
I liked it when they did the trilogy styled series, Cap1-3, Ironman1-3, even though it was set in the larger Avengers1-3/4, it all worked. Even the 2Hulk movies tied together and into Avengers1, which goes into his 2nd trilogy, Avengers2, Thor3, Avengers3/4
If there is Adamantium in Tiamut, shouldn't it have been discovered in KnoWhere already by aliens, especially the Kree?
What if it was what Sersi did to Tiamut that made adamantium?
That's a good ass question. Mcu doesn't think things thru
@@geoff1389 most probably
I mean they were mining knowhere for all sorts of stuff. Materials and tech that are advanced on Earth aren't that special or unique out in the universe. Like Uru is just out there, as is whatever Thanos's sword was made of.
what if the yellow fluid we saw on knowhere, was actually turned into adamantium when it was mixed with the marbling of sersi?
I agree with you that if Marvel uses Doom’s creation of Battleworld as their “soft reset,” it would be the best idea they’ve ever had! I also believe that finish Phase 6 with that one film slated after Secret Wars and it take place on Battleworld. I hope phase 7 then takes place on Battleworld, I just honestly don’t want this Doom introduced and defeated all in the same phase.
Throw shit at the wall enough something is bound to stick, right? Lol
As always, this channel is opening the door to so many insane possibilities, in the PERFECT way. I really hope the Russo bros are watching!!
One thing I could see happening is the Symbiote showing up in Secret Wars, finally - super powering Tom’ Peter Parker in order to better stand a chance against Doom, the spitting image of his father figure (or weird uncle, depends). This would happen in front of Tobey’s Peter, much to his anguish/despair, but Tom would refuse to separate from the Symbiote, as it is what’s allowing him to detach emotionally and fight Doom.
Either they could make the Symbiote arc exist solely in Secret Wars or leave it at the end, locked away after Tom’s Peter promises a dying Tobey’s Peter (yes, I want that heartbreak in Secret Wars) to never bond with it again, but have Tom’s Peter look back at the lockbox hinting at the Symbiote’s return.
My head’s spinning with ideas after every video of yours - keep em coming!!!
Pretty sure with how the MCU changed Thanos' motivation to impressing and winning the heart of death to overpopulation control, that they most likely will change Dr. Doom's motivation for absolute power to save his mother from Mephisto's realm(Mephisto has still YET to be introduced), to something else. And his mom might not be present/used in the mcu. Remember the MCU is not really going for comic accurateness and moreso rather do their own thing or their own take of characters/events.
Memphis to was in deadpool and wolverine...or at least a variation was.
According to some insiders(high chance of being false), Galctus will travel to the 616 universe during The Fantastic Four: First Steps movie to devour Earth 616. Maybe they can use that to set up Doom basically defeating Celestials, Galactus and hopefully Kang variants to harness their Energy, Knowledge and Technology, combined with his own Mystic Arts, Science and Sorcery that will help him reshape the entire Mutliverse and become God-Emperor Doom. This would also tie F4 to coming into 616 alongside the Multiversal Heroes, Anchor Beings that you've mentioned in this video lead by Strange.
i can tell you for a fact this doesn't happen. You know how many different people would have to be in that movie
@@yungKaution100 At this point the character roster is going to be very high, but about half will just be cameos.
For sure, the Fantastic Four, the Thunderbolts and the Avengers (Cap, Thor, Strange, Spidey, Black Panther, Ant Man, Hawkeye, Hulk, Captain Marvel, Shang Chi & maybe Daredevil) will be in these movies. The alternate reality heroes like Deadpool, Wolverine, and the other Spider Men will be in it. And I bet you in Secret Wars the Scarlet Witch will reappear. I think those characters are for sure going to be in these next ones, and many of them will be killed. In fact, I'm betting that Ant Man, the Wasp, and Hawkeye will die.
The Eternals are simply not popular, they will probably just be cameos, as will the Young Avengers, except maybe Kate Bishop and Kamala Khan. The Guardians are a toss-up, they might be cameos though.
@@hiphipjorge5755 Bro i know they are going to be in the avengers movies. Yours saying they will be in Fantastic 4, Because you say Galactis is going to come to the 616 in that movie. which means they would all have to show up in Fantastic 4. Which they wont. We will only see the Fantastic 4 vs Galactis and we might see doom. Galactis will come to the 616 later.
@@yungKaution100Bro I meant like, they can set up Galactus entering the 616 in the Fantastic Four and then all the Doom and Celestials shit would happen in Doomsday. I didn't mean to say that all of that would take place The Fantastic Four: First Steps.
@AVR0709 that's not what you said tho lol. Go reread it
Adamantium is going to be able to absorb any kind of radiation including Gamma which is why Leader is involved in the plot to control access to the supply to the material. The Leader can mind control or manipulate people with gamma enhancements. Adamantium can neutralize gamma radiation. Doom should steal Ultron or Vision's designs to create an armor of Doombots to invade Wakanda and take what he needs. If/when combined with vibranium in Doom's armor he can absorb and manipulate all forms of energy. Doom will use his upgraded Adamantium/ Vibranium armor to siphon and steal reality-altering power from characters like Franklin Richards, Silver Surfer, Wanda Maximoff, and Galactus. Having stolen their powers he is free to confront Loki or Kang Beyonder (if that subplot is still developed)
Doom should be revealed to have been the benefactor of Ant-Man and Wasp. Doom should be revealed to be the financial backer for Fisk's political campaign. Doom should be revealed to be the funder and researcher behind the tinkerer and powerbroker. Doom should be revealed to have inadvertently created Kang(s) with his creation of the time platform. Doom takes responsibility and destroys Kang(s) and claims the relics Kang created- some combination of Ten rings, Quantum bands, Darkhold, Necroblade, and/or Ebony Blade. When Doom confronts Kang - Kang (recast) claims to be the heir to Doom's legacy- Doom responds by saying Doom is his own legacy before destroying him.
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1:30.... Slight correction... Wolverine's skeleton isn't made of adamantium, it's been coated in adamantium. He originally had a normal (for him anyway) skeleton with bone claws that came out.
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"originally" is wrong , his skeleton was coated yes, but he had no claws until installed by the weapon x program. I can provide proof in the form of the 1st edition of Marvel trading cards as well as books. The "bone claws" is retcon crap.
@@rufustwashingtonsmartybrit5905 Ahhh... interesting! Sorry, I'm not that familiar with the comic book continuity. I was just commenting on the Fox films. So I learned something today! Thanks!
Do we think they could possibly going full Children’s Crusade? I feel like it can’t be a coincidence that the Scarlet Witch disappears and then they announce RDJ as Doom. And then release a show with one of Wanda’s children? Sounds like a perfect set up if you ask me. Doom trying to steal the Scarlet Witch’s power for himself? I needdddd itttt
And then on top of that. Do we think that Wanda could be a substitute for Molecule man?
Deadpool and Wolverine survive the Time Ripper because Adamantium can handle dark matter. Betting that is what Doom needs it for.
I hope this Doom is from the 838 Universe,
It would be dope to see his perspective of Reed Richards getting killed by Wanda while she was influenced by Multiverse Magic.
I think you put more thought into this than Marvel Studios.
What if he's been hiding in the Witches' Road? Beaten by the FF in his home universe, he's now plotting the perfect setup from the shadows. Teen has a piece of Wanda's magic from the Wundagore blast and seeks Agatha's help to survive the trials and revive Wanda. Maybe Doom absorbs Wanda's powers. Chaos magic + Adamantium = pretty much indestructible and unbeatable.
The increase in loving and believing in a Villains motives has literally soared. I'm concerned
The Rock (1996) effectively portrayed a compelling villain character 30 years ago. Ed Harris's portrayal elicited sympathy from the audience, but the character's actions were unambiguously immoral. This is an example of well-written villainy - creating a character that the audience can understand, even if they don't condone their behavior.
Conversely, good hero writing often explores the character's internal struggle with the 'dark side' of their nature. A great example is Luke Skywalker's battle against the temptation of the dark side in the Star Wars saga. When heroes falter and fail to live up to their ideals, it creates higher stakes and more impactful consequences. This internal conflict and the consequences of their choices are key elements of compelling heroic storytelling.
I like the 'adamantium as a conduit' theory - Deadpool's swords were also adamantium at that point
3:46 "take you on one hell of a ride", marvel vs capcom 2 character select theme "I wanna take you for a ride" , marvel vs capcom 3 the main boss is Galactus, Capcom characters will be introduced in the MCU as cannon. JK........I wish
The MCU and the X-men universe does fit pretty well together, most of the MCU happens from the 2000’s (besides the first avengers and captain marvel) onwards while the new X-men timeline takes place between the 60’s through the 90’s. A time when the world didn’t really have any hero’s. Having both timelines slam together with the X-men being the hero’s through the 90s then being forced to go into hiding and then the avengers take over with the power gap
My first FF comics was the heroes reborn with Doom on the front. Good memories
Franklin Richards read that comic and is the reason why we're all here.😂
@@raydology you might be on to sth here
I love your vids where I know I will need to watch it more than once to probably absorb all the info
EDIT - just realised that might look sarcastic but it's 100% genuine. Usually means it's the potential for something exciting. Off the top of my head as an example, you did one about what the Mutant Saga could look like, think I watched that three or four times
Im always ready to watch a Screencrush Marvel prediction video! 😄
I really hope Doom is revealed to the mastermind behind The Multiverse Saga, redeeming the so many flaws of Phase 4 & Phase 5 in 2023.
What if the yen rings are made from adamantium
Adamant is a common term for synthetically polished Marble, so I guess they can only get Adamantium from Tiamut because Sersi turned him into Marble, which means it will be a limited amount like Vibranium. I don't think they are going to harvest Celestials, or else OrgoCorp would probably have been made out of Adamantium.
21:35 save u some time lol
why tf does he yap for 20 minutes before getting to the point lmao
@@jcloud96 the longer u engage, the better it is for the channel cmon now
Ryan, you cooked on this one! I love this storyline… keep going
I'm beginning to like this version of Victor Vin Doom, BUT, why would he give Bob such power(million exploding suns) when he could wield it himself...for the betterment of all of course.
Make bob a villain and defeat him it’s like mysterio
In Endgame, remember how Hulk was reminded a few times to ONLY snap back the people that died to avoid any disruption? What if Tony didn't have the clear mind when he snapped and he also wished that he'd come back when he snapped Thanos?
Man, I want the Eternals to help the Avengers fight Doom, so I hope they tie up their storyline
Think of it like a spaghetti noodle. It only sticks when it’s ready
I think they will, but will be a minor role. Almost cameos honestly
Finally someone who makes sense of all of this . I love this Chanel
Rdj Dr Doom is from the universe that Wanda dream walked to.
Not a comic book reader… is that plot line taken from the comics? I think it’s an interesting idea, but how would he get to 616 to influence stuff if he only got there post infinity war?
Amazing. So well researched and delivered. Love you guys.
I stg we wait 2-3 years for the rdj connect and they just play it off as “oh we just have the same face “ imma lose my shit.
what would u prefer
@@Medieva1the same reaction only for him to actually be a tony stark variant
@@TwiliiteHonestly makes sense. Perhaps he thinks Tony makes a mistake in working with the Avengers and all the mistakes they made leading up to the Infinity Wars and takes a different path.
I think you're onto something with the adamantium being what saved Wolverine and Deadpool, I was a bit confused as to how they survived that but now it makes sense, it was the adamantium that helped them survive. Great work with that theory, I think it makes perfect sense.
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Love this awesome explanation…. Hope your vision becomes reality cuz I would love to see this on the big screen.
Keep up the amazing work
Doom is more intelligent than Reed Richards.
Richards is a man of science. Magic is like snake oil and holistic medicine. Magic is always lazy and sloppy. It does whatever the plot wants without any consideration for consistency.
So does the science in the mcu@@dangerfly
@@thegreatthrasher The difference is science gives you something real to anchor to, even if it's fiction. With magic there are no rules so it starts to contradict itself.
Nope
I'M SO HERE FOR THIS!!! Marvel should really do some form of this, it really helps connect everything and is so interesting (just not sure about the doom looking like tony part)
My conspiracy theory is that RDJ isn't actually doom, they just don't want the eventual set photos of RDJ to get out and reveal iron man is back
I mean what if Doom isn’t even the main big bad? I hope Doomsday gives Doom all the screen time and attention just to set up the Beyonder as the big bad of Secret Wars
Young Victor, Von Doom not Timely, will find a second edition TVA Handbook somehow. That will start him on his path.
You misspelled Kang wrong.
Your username is someone punching a keyboard?
That means the Eternals will be a huge help during Avengers Doomsday, I mean Eros is helping search for those who were taken by the Celestials.
Again, the multiverse. Hope im wrong, but usually everything that complex, usually scares away the normal public. there isn't enough nerds out there to help such expensive movies turn a profit. Again, i hope im wrong.
All I’m gonna say is YOU WILL BE SHOCKED!!!!
My nephews understand the multiverse better than me they love it and the possibilities it can bring and they are only 7
Deadpool and Wolverine blew up, I know people who don't even watch Marvel movies get excited about it.
And it involved the concept of the multiverse. I don't think it's that hard to understand. You go back trough time, do something that isn't supposed to happen and then BOOM, you have created a new branch on Yggdrasil which is the new outcome.
They have some great writers there, and 99% chance they can simplify concept of the multiverse even to those who aren't marvel nerds.
@@itzjin9017 I think where the disconnect forms when we are forced to watch shows or movies we’d never watch any other time just so we can fully understand the multiverse because most casuals aren’t gonna go watch Loki which is a critical part of the multiverse saga to actually understand it
@@Hehehehem Loki basically is the explanation for everything right now. Yeah, to understand Marvel's concept of the multiverse you do have to watch Loki. But atleast it's not a show like She-Hulk, it's watchable, full of emotions and character development.
But, correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Loki like the foundation you need to watch to understand Marvel's multiverse? I don't think it mentions incursions in there but you can just watch that Mr. Fantastic scene and understand it.
But, maybe they will start to simplify things from now on.
I love the videos when you and Doug talk about things like this
Maybe...
Gambit Charging Wolverine's Claws in '97, Was a "Hint".🤔
I really love your view on doom’s origin! That’s movie worthy right there!😭
Is it just me or does Gambit sound like a cajun foghorn leghorn from looney tunes?
your pitch is actually pretty good
I just wish they had found someone else for Doom
All we ask is please leave Ryan Reynolds out of it. We're tired of him
Speak for yourself buddy
@@jonathanburns665 pause. You're suspect
@@richardstrait3723 grow up dude. You're a grown ass man.
Agreed
We? No we aren’t, we want more. Keep your bad opinion to yourself
the way how i understands the explanation makes me wonder, until what saga can i live to watch all of it? is my remaining lifetime enough? ahahaha i love the explanation. thanks guys.
2:55 You're spot on about there not being enough time. Secret Wars really seems like it's gonna reset everything and there's still so many threads left hanging. The J. Majors stuff probably caused a lot of that but I still want to see the same characters continue their stories.
Marvel should do some anthology show like "What if...?" But live action and have God of Stories Loki be the guide. Call it "God of Stories", or "Loki: God of Stories". But have it be a show of it's own rather than a "Loki season 3". And Loki could be slightly 4th wall breaking to show the viewer the wrap ups of all the hanging threads of the MCU that never got sequel films/seasons.
9:00 Also that is a really good point. I was going to say that Tony could've done so many other things with the stones to stop Thanos but then I realized he probably would've died no matter what he did. (from harnessing the stones I mean)
Tony just took the most probable solution.
I love all your theory videos. Great channel
What a great theory to connect all the loose ends at this Multiverse Saga. Keep it up!
This all makes so much sense I feel like I've seen the films already! Like it!
I hope they do sentry justice, I would love for him to stick around
I love your content, plus your puppy is just the cutest!!!!
As always- great video! However, the only thing that I will remember from this video, is that for the 438th time, you say, "and so-and-so is the most powerful character in Marvel...." when referring to Sentry/Bob.... just like you have done with countless other characters before. I'm not saying it's a bad thing (I actually laugh every time I hear it), just that it really sticks out to me. 😂
you guys are great, videos are so entertaining and engaging!
This is random but deadpool and howard the duck would be an awesome team up
11:27 Why did you cut it like that??🤣
Love it! Connection, big bad, dark avengers - need some excitement back!
This actually makes a lot of because since End Game they have been dabbling in gods in the MCU…to have Doom working toward god status only fits in
Rewatching and the Oppenheimer line by RDJ at 13:47 is perfect
1:21 haven’t watched past here, but red hood being in the new Disney show also adds to the dark avengers team doom is potentially building
Sounds really good it makes a lot of sense. I just really hope that they show Dr Doom killing all of the Kangs since they're not going to continue with that Saga. I don't care if the scene is 10 seconds to 2 minutes long it really should happen. And show a snippet of the flashback when the banished one- kang- was dying and he said that something worse was coming meaning that he was actually talking about Doctor Doom.
The new fantastic four movie will look like a live action incredible's movie.....I hope they nail it.
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Now THIS is a great theory. Well done 👏🏼
I do believe Doom will get his power(s) from celestials. More specifically From Galactus. The MCU doesn't necessarily need to introduce the Beyonders to us. They can just have Galactus take their place. And as Galactus is rumoured to be the antagonist in the Fantastic Four movie, this can be the perfect opportunity for Doom to swoop in and take his powers. Honestly, it would be the most on brand thing Doom could do 😅🤷♂️ It's an easy enough plot to get the wheels in motion for the next 2 Avengers movies
If it's gonna be RDJ, just make him act full on Tony Stark, just sassying it up. Just go all in and ruin the magic of seeing a new character.
It's complicated, but interesting & fascinating stuff!
Love your channel bro
Appreciate you Ryan 😊
How bout this for connectivity? Anthony & Victor Stark, twins, separated at Birth without either knowing. That explains Doom looking like Stark. 1 raised by the Starks & 1 raised by the Von Doom Family, just in 2 different Universes.
Going by the last couple of years of Marcel content, I’m gonna say that they’re turning Doom into Tony’s unknown half brother who’s been brought up without money and who’s now pissed. Kinda like iron man 2.
I've been watching your videos for a while but I gave you a subscribe and I like for that clip from The Room
Brilliant theorizing there!
When you talk about adamantium absorbing magic, and wolvering absorbing the energy from the time ripper why do i feel like you just explained why were going to see the hot claws come out at some point 😂
Nailed it 👍
I love the clip editing
We need a clear description of the multiverse vs. Timelines. The TVA controls timelines but not different multiverses. There must be different TVAs in each reality. They are confusing longitude and latitude. Time is longitudinal, multiverses, and latitudinal. A different timeline isn't a different reality, but thats what they seem to be doing.
Dr.Doom always seeking power, the first thing I would have Dr.Doom do is to get the 10 RINGs .
Love love love this video. Hope it goes down like this
So vibranium & adamantium both come from celestials?
What if Doom can separate his physical and astral forms and travel the multiverse in his astral form? He is a powerful sorcerer after all. If he’s part of the dying world the F4 are on, but he finds a planet with an inhabitable body of Tony Stark, with all of the Stark technology, he slips into that body and looks like Tony, but is in fact, Victor Von Doom. I’m trying to come up with a way that is more creative than just being a variant that looks like Tony Stark. If they have similar goals for protecting their world, it makes him a sort of sympathetic villain, which I’m not a fan of, but that’s probably how he’s going to be portrayed. Sympathetic.
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They should have made Tommy Wiseau the new Doctor Doom, he would reawaken the whole damn MCU and get bums in seats
"Oh hi Mark"