Spyderco Military in 52100 - review and sharpening
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- This is a review of the Spyderco Military sprint run in 52100. There's discussion on the blade steel and the build of the knife. The video also documents sharpening the knife.
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Just picked one of these up (first reasonable price I’ve seen for an unused one in years). I’m really interested to see how it sharpens up. I’ve sharpened 1095 and XC90 pretty extensively but never 52100. It’ll be nice to have a large, carbon steel Spyderco that can be maintained on my Arkansas stones.
I’ll soak all my carbon steel knives and vinegar. It puts a black patina on the blade. The black patina keeps the oxygenation from happening. It will preserve your carbon steel. It’s like rust only it doesn’t deteriorate the steel. It doesn’t look bad either. I like it.
Thanks for the review.
Thanks for the video Michael, appreciate it. I can only buy one of these new Millies right now and this and your 204P review/sharpening are the best pieces of information out there.
I'm glad that what I'm doing is helpful.
52100 is superior to 1095 by a long shot from what I've read. And I have a 52100 knife. It kept an edge through the skinning and boning out of an entire deer. A great improvement over my Buck knife.
52100 is significantly tougher than 1095 with noticeably better edge retention, there really isn't a performance metric by which 1095 isn't worse than 52100 assuming both have a good heat treat and geometry.
I own 3 of them, two of them which I’ve had tip up carry scales made for. Love em.
The blade on mine was apparently soaked in coffee and it turned it black.
It looks badass with the carbon fiber!
Also, corrosion is not an issue.
evvignes I've never heard of soaking the blade in coffee. Interesting idea.
@@michaelchristy4982 strong coffee tends to form a particularly dark patina, especially if the blade was previously etched in ferric chloride (the technique is a common way to increase the contrast in damascus)
Look through my subs. Wooo!
a new Mike video!
That thing is gorgeous.
Not for me though.
That pivot area will be a nightmare to keep from rusting.
That's why I love the stainless clad carbon.
BTW
I love the Zdp189 steel.
Sharpens great on waterstones
Even up to 8k
Phenomenal sharpness
Thanks for the vids Mike.
Can't wait for the s110v Military
I'm looking forward to the S110V Military too. Glad you're liking ZDP.
wish they’d do the para and millies in ZDP
I am kind of a PM2 guy. But i would love to have a liner lock millie. i would tap it for tip down carry though. Thanks for sharing. Beautiful edge!
Jorgen Sandstrom thank you.
The one and only, his majesty 52100. Although i use some fancy overrated pm steels (folders only) to me theres nothing better than 52100.
Great vid as always. That peel ply carbon fiber looks great. I'm going to wait for it on the Manix 2 sprint.
Excellent overview as always Mike!
Thank you.
it does not matter, and it's important that everyone says your opinion on the topic you're talking about, I'm just trying to say that the 52100 is remarkable for many things, but that it's important to keep an eye on it.
Makes sense that it would rust. If you think about it ball bearings are normally packed with grease.
Well, the steel has a very low chromium content. That's what makes the difference.
I wasn't surprised that I got corrosion. I was surprised how fast I got it.
+Michael Christy yeah that would have surprised me as well.
Bob Kramer uses that steal and he makes the best kitchen knives in the world once the knife develops a patina and it's ease of sharpening and capable of holding an extremely fine Edge this steel is one of the best
Also 440c is commonly used for ball bearings in environments that promote excessive corrosion.
Nice blade. I wonder if I'll ever own something in that steel.
That is one of my favorite Spyderco's, but never could get one with a lock without issues.
That's surprising... I've never had issues with the lock on a Military. They always seem to settle nicely for me.
Yeah, the liner lock flexes a little on mine when open
Thee 52100 steel is good stuff. Busse knives uses it. It does patina but the best part of that is if you you Birchwood Casey cold blue your corrosion issues are finished! 30 inclusive is a bit thin and 52100 will actually work better at 40 degrees inclusive!
Richard Blaine given the RC that Spyderco is heat treating to, and the fact that it’s a folding knife, 30 inclusive worked just fine. I could see 40 if it was a chopper.
Coat it with a good moly lube, the moly will stay on it forever
couple questions what oil base stropping compound what kind did you start off before switching to the diamond spray and second what kind of wood do you use and what sizes of it looks about the 1/4 inch thick
I realy am digging this knife. Do you have a link to this exact configuration?
Fresh2 Salt this is a sprint run that went on sale a while ago. You can still find them some places. Last I looked, they were still on Bento Box.
I have a chance to buy this same knife right now. Wanted to know what u think about it and it u think it's good choice to pick up
Sour it is a good knife. I'm glad I picked it up.
They just came out with the PM2 in 52100 as well.
hello sir, you re putting out interesting videos.. One question, is'nt 52100 a steel used for forged blades ?
Yes. As I understand it, a lot of custom makers use 52100.
Is the stepped pin removable? Or is it permanent (like the Japanese spydercos are)?
I haven't taken the knife apart, but I've heard people say it's removable. I'm not fully sure though.
Do you have a certain site you get all your sprint runs from at I assume the best price? Amazon has good deals but sometimes with sprint runs they are much more. Like my para 3 cru-wear was 180$ on amazon but I found it for 125$ on knifeworks or something ...I want a military s90v sprint if I can find it. Or some sprint run military since I don't have one period. And I want another pm2 but in a sprint. And I wish I got the manix 2 in m4 on bladehq but missed it. So many choices! Where do you check??
Paul Lonardo I stick to online knife retailers. I try not to buy Spyderco’s from Amazon. My usual sites (for Spyderco) are Knifeworks, BladeHQ, Knife Center, Rivers Edge Cutlery, Bento Box, etc.
Michael Christy Cool Thanks man. I will have to check out a couple I haven't gone to that you mentioned. I've seen Bentobox...what's that all about? Very weirdly setup website...do they ship fast and everything? Is it a USA based site
Michael Christy Hey man I was looking for some sprint run spyderco and ended up at www.cutleryshoppe.com and was pretty impressed with their prices. Lowest prices on sprint runs I have seen yet, and a few cool exclusives for great price. A couple examples is a s90v native lightweight orange for 95$, the manix 2 composite 154cm/s90v for 199$(I've only ever seen them for 240$) and a bunch of other good deals! Hope you check it out. Not sure on shipping prices or really anything else about the site buts its certainly legit and out of USA.
Paul Lonardo USA, yes. They ship ok, but it costs you. But they have stuff after it’s gone, but it costs more.
Michael Christy Ya there's always a catch huh. It says free shipping but that's probably by horseback lol
awesome knife!!!!
I really wonder why spyderco chose to use that steel, especially with carbon fiber.
I've heard two things on the choice of steel... I've heard there has been a good demand for it for a long time, and I heard that people asked for it in the Spyderco forum and Sal said, "ok". I'm not sure which it is, if either. Or maybe both.
What steel would you have them use?
+Larry Bird If Spyderco could have the heat treat done the way that Strider does, I'd like to see CPM154. I also think that 3V (or 4V) would interesting.
10V would be nice too.
I hope Spyderco makes a K390 Millie someday. Amazing steel.
+Larry Bird yeah, that would be nice.
52100 won't have the edge retention of s30v but about the same as vg10. 52100 will get sharper than anything Spyderco has ever used the only other steel that will get as sharp is AEB-L. they're both extremely fine grain structures. 52100 is what Bob Kramer uses and he makes the best kitchen knives in the world. You Sally's that only like stainless you need to man up. 52100 is SUPER easy to sharpen not like most stainless, i make knifes ive used many difference steels and 52100 is one of the best. Don't be a baby worrying about rust once it develops a patina it will never rust like a old hundred-year-old wrench!
Man if i could sharpen like that any tipps? I got the sharpmaker but i think it still will not shave facial hair ;(
You need to make sure you're hitting the apex of the edge. You can do the sharpie trick to see where you're hitting. Also, what steel are you working with? And which angle setting are you using?
i am using the 30 degree angle working with german D2 tool steel, n690 cobal, 154cm and cts xhp so far. I ordered all the things i need to achieve one of the highest levels of sharpness already also 150k and 200k grit diamond paste. Also 5 to qurter micron diamond pastes and sprays, pikal polishing liquid and 1 leather strop :)
Odd steel choice on spydercos part.
Apparently people were asking for it.
As far as the rust that came on, are you in a humid area? Just trying to figure it out for my climate. Thanks
Wm S I’m near Philly.
I think nasa now uses lc200n the same steel in the spydiechef and Caribbean salt the spyderco native 5 coming out in it
Mike I have a 52100 Military. I have a Spyderco sharp maker. I cannot get an edge on this blade. It's worse now than when I began sharpening it. Any tips?
Michael Mostardi ya you suck i got the Spyderco sharpmaker and it's one of my favorite sharpeners out there on the market today it's operator error you need to push hard
who the fucking are you?
aaron johnson Joseph boy
I'd check which angle setting you are using. Mark the edge bevel with magic maker/Sharpie and see if you are hitting the apex.
you must the bluing that knife
Sam_protiv_ Svih at the time of this video, the knife was new.
@@michaelchristy4982 I know but 52100 is a quick-rusting steel, otherwise it's top quality but you'll have a problem if you do not protect it.
Sam_protiv_ Svih there’s a follow up video nine videos up.
Sam_protiv_ Svih keep in mind, this was posted in 2016.
This knife doesn't make sense imo. 52100 if its taken hard enough is a nice, tough fine grain low alloy carbon steel which makes a good steel for many applications in a knife blade. But, using it on a EDC even a 'bigger' one like this makes no sense. You're gonna be sharpening that thing daily and still not happy with it, cuz I doubt it's thin enough or hard enough to where the 52100 would shine even as a slicer like say a kitchen knife. If you carry this knife, make sure you carry a polishing stick loaded with diamond compound cuz it will lose bite after two cuts. I don't need to own it or touch or watch this video to know that. Thats just what 52100 is. If you dont care about corrosion something like k390 is an infinitely better choice for a knife like this. Anything from 10v down to 3v would make a good choice depending on how thin and/or how hard its used. Even magnacut would be fine for this.