Quick clarification: You have a LOT of tracks to work with beyond what lives in a drum program... 128 midi tracks, which include drum programs and keygroups, and up to 8 of those can be plugins like Hype or Electric piano. You're more likely to find yourself limited by the processing power than the track limit, and so far the processer has been able to handle whatever I throw at it. If you want to layer a metric ton of sounds in a standalone device, the MPC One has got you covered.
I’m still not quite sure that I’m enjoying my MPC One. I’m bummed that the new update still doesn’t include audio over usb. Would be killer to be able to track into a daw in real time like the MC 101/707. It’s also hard to find any videos really explaining exporting/exploding tracks etc. 🤷🏻♀️
Maybe check to see if you have too many samples loaded into one project. Loading sounds into a project fills up the active memory, taking away processing power for other things like plugins. There's a good bit of processing power, but too many/overly large samples can overload it.
I come from the old school, your daddies mpc and ensoniqs..... I got a one and regreted it for a few months.... then one day it clicked and i realized i can literally do everything i could possible want to do in it, even my vocal tracks. I HATE tracking beats out to a daw, and akai solved that problem, no more annoying tracking out. That was what sold me.
@@mutmasterj why wouldnt it be? you can plug a mic into the box. and now that you can plug interface or mixer into the mpc you can even get phantom power for condenser mics
@Joël Burleson you can do everything and more in daws, but his point was that now he can do something in the box that wasnt possible before. the point of using an mpc or hardware in general is to get away from your computer / daw. many people find it inspiring to make music with hardware and away from your computer.
I have to say tho, after almost a complete 2 years of the MPC One, as soon as you have your head wrapped around the basic function, you make beats like it’s nothing. And the smaller complexities will come as you go. And you then have a workflow that your comfortable with
On the portability aspect - this was one thing that made me initially hesitant about getting ten One Vs Live 2. I found there are 90 EUR powerbanks that work like a charm with the One, I bought it and can take my one + headphones or mobile speaker and enjoy making music on it anywhere I go, without having to shell out almost twice as much for Live 2 and sacrifice physical buttons/get a bunch of superficial features ( for me). For anyone in a similar scenario, the powerbank that was recommended is Xt Power XT-20000QC3 - it works with ten One via an included cable and is able to output 19V/65W. Reported working time is up to 7.5 hours with the MPC One.
This combo aounds good and i was considering the one, but the ssd in the livenand not having to use a battery bank is just better, i got my live for 550 and it was unused still had the license, the guy i bought it from was too lazy to learn it
I've had the MPC One for 370 days now, great product. prefer it to my logic x, garageband , roland fa06 roland jdxi or korg electribe mx as a sequencer/workstation/daw 7 songs finished this year so far with it.
I have to say I love this machine. I tried the Verselab and the Digitakt before this and while I absolutely love the design and feel of the Digitakt my brain just works alot better with the MPC workflow. I would recommend tho that you get your hands on the Digitakt for a week, I think you'll have alot of fun using it. The design on that one is just amazing. Edit: I want to add, I think the MPC workflow works best if your brain is wired for working with a DAW first and foremost. This is the first box i figured out everything I wanted to do in like 2 sessions without constantly looking at the manual.
....and you blew my mind, Gabe... with your review. I'll be getting one now after seeing this. No other reviewer ever made me want one. Thanks, buddy ! 👍👏❤🌠
JUST WANNA SAY, how do you cram so much info into a 14min video, and still say going with the flow. I've never heard anyone speak so fast and yet so precise and articulate. You oughta get a grammy award for presentation skills. Thanks for the great video.
Hated Akai for a while. But when this was announced, and I saw videos on it... I was like "hmm"... when Maschine+ was announced, with its insane price, that's the catalyst that made me pull the plug on an MPC One... got an open-box one, mint for only $530. Bought a $90 battery bank (switchable voltage) for it, and it's cheaper than the Live II. The One is the best-designed MPC Akai has made at its price point... those dedicated buttons are so worth it. Glad you're enjoying yours!
Great video as usual! I have had numerous groove boxes but always found limitations with each. I have now sold them all to properly focus on the MPC One. It has so much depth and the updates are amazing. For me the ultimate Groovebox!
@@openedto I see you never got an answer to your question, and I'm here on this video now, so figured I'd just chime in with something of an answer for you. My experience isn't extensive, but my first try with groovebox was the MC-505 back in the day, and I really enjoyed using it, though I only had it on loan. I then got a Yamaha RM1x, and I found it pretty clunky to work with, overall. I ended up selling that, and abandoning electronic music entirely until last year when I got bit by the bug again. Picked up the MPC One and am constantly blown away with how much it can do for the price I paid for it. It does virtually everything I was able to do with the MC-505 or RM1x, but significantly more. I am still not an expert with the workflow, but there is just so much packed in here, and the fact that it's doing samples and audio tracks, USB support, etc. It's more than the ultimate groovebox, honestly. For my amateur musician needs, it does everything I need. Almost... I have a digital multitrack that I am holding on to for my more analog music, primarily because it goes to 16 tracks and has a lot of knobs and sliders and projects on the drive already. I am sure I could pare down my analog stuff to work on the MPC but recording my mic'd drum kit is going to eat up most of the audio track limit. Anyhow, I digress. If you are looking for something that can do groovebox stuff, and haven't already decided, the MPC One is amazing value. I'm glad I didn't go with a newer Roland, which was my original intent.
Great! I was watching your old videos yesterday. I was feeling like the answer to your DAW-in-a-box quest seemed to me to be one of these things. Congratulations, Gabe! Happy music-making!
As a long-time MPC user (1000 and 2500) I can’t say I’m a big fan of the new MPC user interface. I totally agree with you, I’ve had my MPC One for nearly a year and I’m still not sure if I’m saving my stuff properly, that alone warrants a video (hint)!
It’s a monster. I sent the live BACK for the one. The layout is just better. Great tracks my man. Love the Mass Effect vibes on the key group part 😉 you are indeed correct about the UI hump. It’s why Maschine is still my main.
@@thisiswayneo624 I was tempted. But that form factor wasn’t it for me lol I love the clicks on the one. Tactile over menu diving. To each his own though.
What I needed to hear. I'm a hardcore Maschine user and looking to get back into the MPC. The last MPC I used was the 1000 Blue Box (still in service). But definitely looking to add the One to my G.A.S. collection 😎🥃 GAS - Gear Acquisition Syndrome 😬
Honestly, for the feature differences, the Live 2 should be best. But frankly, I don't see either of them truly be amazing. At least the devices are kind of standalone, something you can't say about Maschine. And yes, I'm aware Maschine+ exists, but what's the point of that when it literally doesn't support all plug-ins? Why not go Mikro MK3 (or MK2) and a decent laptop and still have spend less money in total than the Maschine+? It's dumb. Kind of in the same way the Live 2 is a tad much, in what world is it worth over one grand? The price point of the MPC One is really what can make it the best of worlds. But unfortunately I still hate the UI / work flow too much to switch from Maschine (which mind you, doesn't has a flawless work flow either. But the 2.x software is alright/usable).
I've been messing with it myself lately. I think it is finally getting useable for me with some great features. Agreed, the OS may need to be scrapped and redesigned by one person alone. It has that team feel where the teams are not communicating.
Next year will make 30 years that I've been using MPCs. What remains of the original Linn version is the sequencer and pad layout. It's familiar enough to me that I can get on mostly any model and make a track from start to finish if I just have samples and kits to do Boom Bap. Now with Synths built-in, I can make tracks that would've required at least one multitimbral synth with just the MPC alone
@@jeremythornton9838I bought the MPC One Plus last week and I absolutely love it. It's replacing my MPC Touch which my Mac won't see. I'm beyond happy. Plus I can do standalone mode for those times I can't wait for the computer
The Mpc range of machines wipes the floor with most kit out there in my opinion once you understand its many features and workflow......such good value for money and with its support its future proof except fot the ram memory...
I have the mpc one and it's intimidating there is so much you can do with this thing I haven't even scratched the surface this is totally a whole studio in a box once you learn how to use it they need to put out a book on the mpc or it should come with a DVD so you can rewind it over and over to learn how to operate this thing
I just wish, given its memory limitations, that it would stream samples from its storage, rather than dump the samples you need into what precious little memory you get.
That’s my only gripe with the mpc one. Akai missed a trick protecting their live range. The MPC One needs to be a tad thinner and have a built in battery. I can see the the live range giving way for a portable mpc one. Also needs an accessible volume knob on the front maybe.
Refreshing to see the electronic tracks on the MPC. Myself like many others are just sample heads. Something I must try more is making electronic style tracks.
I make mainly electronic music on the mpc and usually only use drum one-hits and key groups for samples and it’s awesome. Instead of sampling records, I’ll often just sample synths or riffs of my playing and chop those up like I would a sample from a song. With the new update, the synthesis capabilities is even better now, although it still excels the most at handling audio I find.
@@djsoo me too. I hate trawling through samples as much as trawling through presets on synths! I only ever do it when I'm stuck for ideas to get a piece started. It's great to play in parts and then chop them - it creates fresh phrases that I'd never normally play! 😎
Regarding the automation part: that would be very easy to solve by using a 3-position switch which is spring-loaded in one direction. Example: Center position = automation is off, Up is spring loaded = as long as you hold it there, automation continues. Let go of it and it returns to center position, Down = latching, you need to manually put the switch back to center position to stop automation. Or here is another option: 1=Auto.OFF, 2=Auto.WhileHolding, 3=Auto.AlwaysOn
With the 2.10 update, when I plug my external synths into my tascam model 16, I can easily route them into the MPC for effects & sidechaining, then route them back out to the same channel on the mixer. That's MASSIVE. RD-8 kick needs some compression, sorted! Wanna sidechain my neutron off my RD-8 kick, done! I love taking it around and working with just the MPC classic style, but using it as a brain for a hardware rig is where it really opens up the floodgates
This is what I like - taking a product and swapping the whole concept around in ways the developers probably didn't imagine and only enabled accidentally! 😎
Hey Bud... I thought about doin' a video about this but I don't want to be a content creator. (This should get you a lot of hits as well as new subs.) I haven't seen anyone else put up a video about it and I really wanna see you do well. Not sure if you knew this but you can autosample plugins and get literally THOUSANDS of free keygroups! When you have a plugin sound loaded, just open the sampler, hit the little piano icon, (making sure the sampler is set to Resample L+R), make your settings which should include "Make Current Program" and hit Do It. I love my MPC and can't imagine NOT having it. What a beast! Keep on rockin', Bud.
I don't think the workflow is clunky at all. Sure, you have to learn the MPC way but once you get it and understand how to access all the features, you'll be flying. The fx are now up to my standards, both with the quantity of choices and the quality. The price for the MPC one is almost too low for what you get.
I love 16 level note pitching, not to mention key groups mode, and progression pitching on the pads to make yourself sound like a s00per pr0 key player
My wishlist for Akai is to have a mode for the sampler where it triggers recording with the start of the sequence after the count-in. I know there's the looper but I'd like the sampler to do this to keep running instead of looping.
Great review, and I agree with your statement that I feel like I get more out of the MPC One than I paid for it. And I agree it's not the best workflow. I just went on vacation and was trying to decide which piece of gear to bring. The MPC is really an all-in-one and with the new 2.10 update really wanted to bring it, but knew I'd need to also have a screen up to reference the MPC Bible, so I went with my Digitakt.
Would be awesome if you can give the Akai Force a quick look/review, considering you came in touch with the overall Akai workflow and the fact it is clip based like Ableton (imho much easier to navigate between tracks, also thanks to the 64 pads and 8 encoders). I had the Roland 707 before but the Force seems just more powerful, especialy since v.3.1
Good starter review. Kind of just scratched the surface though. Midi instrumentation, sound modules, keyboards, mixer desks, and dozens more features. The sampling is very powerful, but the sequencer is on another planet for a standalone. I can imagine this is one of many reviews you'll make - especially when you start to discover more of what's possible. Its much more than a Groove box, of which I have a large collection going back to the early 90's ... I have a fully featured studio with a good mix of hardware and software, a really nice desk, and DSD mastering, but I also travel a lot (normally) and love taking mini studios with me. I even built a lithium battery module to power the Akai off grid for hours at a time. So far out of all the Roland, Yamaha, and Korg all in one groove boxes, the MPC took things to a new level ... It really is a studio in a small box. Albeit with a degree of depth to its complexity. But like you said, once you start understanding it's work method, seriously good ideas - even complete tunes can be created. And if needed, extra refinement can be added in the studio with outboard and/or a DAW.
This covers all the stuff I use the most regularly, but yeah I'm definitely planning to dig deeper into individual features in dedicated videos eventually.
Great video, very informative. :) And, of course, great device as well. Besides, thank you for mentioning touch screen and workflow issues. It’s amazing to see content creators mentioning features which can be problematic to sight impaired. :) Again thanks for that.
I'm a Cubase guy checking out the MPC ONE. I was checking the manual which I downloaded, I was interested in the Track View and Midi layout. I love that they implemented a Midi Grid with a piano roll BUT, to my dismay, I can't find a proper Track View, with lanes, so that I could see what I'm doing, lol. I just can't believe they didn't implement that type of layout, one can only see a list of tracks, but not the usual layout of it, where you arrange everything, exactly as in Cubase and in other serious DAW. I was considering to give it a try but not now, I need a Midi Grid (which it has) and I need a PROPER Track View (X-axis with all the tracks scrolling when I play them back)...I don't understand why didn't they put that in, it's essential. What do you think about this problem?
On portability there's a youtube video on how to hook it up to a rechargable camera battery. Sure it's a dongle type situation but affordable and you'll be able to use it in the middle of nowhere.
Great demo - very informative. Question: where do you get all the Sounds? What Sounds actually come with it? Appreciate any input ( thinking about getting one ). You music sounded hot, enjoyed it. I Hit like. oNe LovE from NYC
Thanks! It's a mix of places, some of them are Maschine kits that I converted to MPC kits, some of them are from Splice Sounds, and some of them are just dragged directly into the SD card from various sample packs I've bought from producers I like or created myself.
Great review young bro! But I gotta tell ya... the workflow is only "clunky" to you because you're young lol. The MPC is so simple and the workflow is amazingly virtually the same as on the MPC 2000XL... on steroids, of course! And there are FAR more hit records made on the MPC than Ableton and Maschine... COMBINED! If you're an OG than learned on the MPC like me, this is the most powerful and EASIEST standalone ever!!
For me it was the easiest groovebox to learn. Might be because of the big screen and nice graphic. It wasn't as cryptic as other grooveboxes where you need to know some button combos and other nuances. Never had a MPC before.
@@Maochan81 EXACTLY! The fact that you never used an MPC before and rocking it so quickly... means you must be a gifted old soul, bro! Pete Rock, J Dilla, Full Force, Kanye, would all love you!!
i start with an mpc 2000xl around 20yrs ago and loved the workflow from the beginning. during this years i bought once machine mpc like controller and had a very difficult time with the workflow and never get used to it. i was so happy when the first mpc live was announced. i bought this box on day one and it felt like home from the beginning. now i own an mpc live and mpc one besides my old but gold 2k xl. the best standalone samplers and sequencer's out there. love them. dont get me wrong, i dont wanna say machine etc. is crap.. this is also a amazing device, but i guess everybody have a other view and mindset of how things have to work. so its great that we all have so much different gear choices, so there is for everybody the right weapon of choice to do some fire!
The MPC One and the MPC Live are two of the best MPCs in my opinion. The One is super small and great for travelling, and the Live is sick for the fact it runs on a battery and can be charged. With the newer software, you can really get busy on these ....
Had one, got rid of it for stupid reasons, regretted that, going to get another one soon. In the meantime, I've been digging into the MPC software, Beats mostly, to learn some of the techniques that apply to the standalone boxes.
@@commonsense6407 I thought about the Retro, but I realized paying the extra $100 is akin to adding RGB to a gaming PC; looks neat, but pointless as all get out, (sorry Linus). Just bought a refurbished Black MPC One off of Amazon; should get it Monday.
Like hardware In/Out for Midi / Audio / CV and ce. the MPC models can put the Maschine in the corner /without MPC ONE that is limited like connections /.For the Midi protocol is enough to know that Steinberg have worked on.For working with the MPC must read and learn to use it.
Yeh... I think this is truly the one box to rule them all that I've wanted since I got my old AKAI DPS24 to behave like a full d.a.w. studio that I could take out to parties... unfortunately it weighed about 30kg and was the size of a human toddler. This one is finally the fully realised unit that should've existed years ago...
This thing is soooo good. I just want kind of a different workflow. Pattern-based song structures always get me stuck in a loop, instead of composing from beginning to end. So I think the Akai Force's workflow might suit me better.
Good video. One issue with the complexity is unless you're using it every day there's a lot of re-learning. I'll have to get over my laziness and make crib-sheets! 😀
Woah, that beat at 7:20 sounds just sick. I hope I can reproduce similar results with my MC-707 and lots of parameter tweaking, rather than having to purchase a MPC for that :D
Gabe you are not limited to 8 tracks, limit is 8 tracks synths, 10 tracks audio, 128 midi tracks (Midi, drum and keygroups). Akai supported these more than any other company, bought og live in 2017
What would you suggest for a very forward thinking beginner if not the MPC ONE? I just dove into a TR8S and I'm not loving how difficult and time consuming it is to get an idea from my head out and playing before it's long lost in trying to manipulate steps with menu diving. That was a long ass sentence! Anyhow, I really like the look of those pads on your MPC and especially making them chromatic. But then as the review goes on it gets terribly overwhelming. Thanks man.
I absolutely LOVE MPC's having owned most of them. However, I must agree that the workflow can be challenging sometimes, especially for some styles of music. I recently bought the MC-707 instead of the One because of the direct access it has with controls. I still may add the One to my studio in the future.
Hi Tom, I have the One but I am really thinking swapping it for the mc 707 for the layout. I know the workflow is not the best but neither the mpc so how are you finding the 707? Many thanks
@@new.romance999 I really love the MC-707. This is definitely an instrument that will remain in my studio. It works great for any style of music. That being said, be aware that there is a learning curve. The advanced features might take you weeks or months to learn, if you are new to Roland products or producing electronic music.
@@TomZentra Most advanced features can be something a producer or artist can live without, i want to know is it gimmicky or not. I've spent used car prices on daws, and plugins.
Similar strategy is needed for Maschine, simple learning curve is robust but once you learn it you will be used to this workflow, I come from Cubase and MIDI to Maschine Mk3 so I have to learn simple things again in different way. At the end we will Export it for Mix or Master it depends on the skill level.
Good review Gabe but can you confirm if you've fully read the manual? I don't think it's justified to say this workflow is complex without committing to reading the manual to understand how the manufacturer is advising you to use this machine. (Or at least read multiple times the sections that don't make sense to you). Watching videos on how to use it is also good but patchy whereas the manual covers the full A-Z of how this product operates. As you said this is a powerful machine and to make this amount of power available to the masses, a different approach is required to that of which our brains are currently used to. For that I think Akai are doing a good job. I only recently got my MPC One and found it quite difficult initially. However, even just a few tens of pages into the manual I was having constant 'Aha' moments where I realized how damn amazing this machine is. It's actually blown me away. Trying to use all the capabilities of this machine in a 'traditional DAW workflow' I feel would severely undermine the whole purpose of this product. We simply have to spend time retraining our subconscious with the Akai way of doing things...
The MPC one is going to be my next purchase I'm using the novation circuit rhythm as my main sampler at the moment it's good enough but it's no MPC it's just learning the workflow that's putting me off was thinking of getting the sp404 mk 2 but I think the mpc is a more rounded products unit
For keygroups and synth samples is there a good resource or recommended site/pack for gritty 80's analog. John carptenter/blade runner/legend. Basically that scifi cinematic sound. Still learning the ropes of the MPC.
Great video. I always wanted to try one and bought the MPC One before the pandemic and immediately returned it because the workflow was awful. Glad to know I’m not alone in those feelings.
Hi man! Nice video! I’d like to know if the MPC One has a mode similar to Ableton where you can launch clips, MIDI or audio. I’m looking for a machine that can be the brain of my setup in order to sequence all the synths + play audio samples, but I really would like to have the option to easily trigger “individual” MIDI sequences to play synths during the performance, independently of the position in a song or track… I see that at the beginning of the new update explanation, you’re triggering tracks to show the synth engines. That’s basically what I’m looking for but how many tracks/clips can be accessed in that mode? 16 or more?
Fantastic video man looking forward to seeing more dives into this in the future Since you have now used both this and Maschine + I have to ask which is the better stand alone production station ?
this was a great review. there was justr something i couldn't gel with about the MCP one, i had mine for about a week before selling itm, the workflow just gelt off. i came from a digitakt/octatrack/ableton(push) workflow and seem to prefer the elektron stuff better. brilliant review (as always) and cant wait to see what you put out next
Interesting. I also feel like the workflow isn't quite right... but for different reasons. I'm trying to get away from Elektron, and find that the MPC isn't different enough.
@@KenithCopeland I just want kind of a different workflow. Pattern-based song structures always get me stuck in a loop, instead of composing from beginning to end. So I think the Akai Force's workflow might suit me better. I've used trackers and Digitakt and loopers and stuff like that, but with those, it heavily pushes the user toward doing a single pattern which changes by adding/removing layers, doing algorithmic changes, or jamming. It's fun and easy, but the songs generally don't go anywhere. It's just a frozen moment in time, with variations. So I'm trying to focus more on a timeline-based workflow... and that's the one thing the MPC products don't really do. It can chain patterns, but there are still hard partitions between, and each pattern basically needs all the settings and instruments copy/pasted back and forth. At best, pattern-based systems are designed for the user to flesh out a single pattern including all the voicing and levels and effects, and then copy/paste it and edit to extend the song length. But I want to write out a few minutes worth of melody, then go back to add harmony, then add drums, then adjust the voicing, then maybe adjust the arrangement and voicing and stuff again, then adjust the mixing and effects... and then render it to a .wav file. So... basically I'm looking for something like Ableton, but without a computer. And MPC is great, but that's not what it is.
@@ToyKeeper solid reasoning man, i hope you can find what your looking for. i hear akai force is supposed to get a new firmware upgrade like the mpc's did, maybe that might be more what your looking for, good luck mate
Quick clarification: You have a LOT of tracks to work with beyond what lives in a drum program... 128 midi tracks, which include drum programs and keygroups, and up to 8 of those can be plugins like Hype or Electric piano. You're more likely to find yourself limited by the processing power than the track limit, and so far the processer has been able to handle whatever I throw at it. If you want to layer a metric ton of sounds in a standalone device, the MPC One has got you covered.
Hoping you’ll eventually explore using it as the brains in a DAWless setup sequencing other gear alongside its own tracks… 😏
I’m still not quite sure that I’m enjoying my MPC One. I’m bummed that the new update still doesn’t include audio over usb. Would be killer to be able to track into a daw in real time like the MC 101/707. It’s also hard to find any videos really explaining exporting/exploding tracks etc. 🤷🏻♀️
I am only able to use two plug ins at once on my Live. It says it has reach maxed then. How can you run eight plug ins?
Maybe check to see if you have too many samples loaded into one project. Loading sounds into a project fills up the active memory, taking away processing power for other things like plugins. There's a good bit of processing power, but too many/overly large samples can overload it.
I always forget to name the tracks and programs! When I change sequences it is an absolute mess! Need to learn how to stay organised.
I come from the old school, your daddies mpc and ensoniqs..... I got a one and regreted it for a few months.... then one day it clicked and i realized i can literally do everything i could possible want to do in it, even my vocal tracks. I HATE tracking beats out to a daw, and akai solved that problem, no more annoying tracking out. That was what sold me.
Vocal tracks on the Mpc? How I’ve always wondered if that was possible.
What no tracking out man i been wanting one but afraid it will be a waist of money
@@carlosbaker7825 He means to say you don't have to track out because it has an export feature that stems everything out.
@@mutmasterj why wouldnt it be? you can plug a mic into the box. and now that you can plug interface or mixer into the mpc you can even get phantom power for condenser mics
@Joël Burleson you can do everything and more in daws, but his point was that now he can do something in the box that wasnt possible before. the point of using an mpc or hardware in general is to get away from your computer / daw. many people find it inspiring to make music with hardware and away from your computer.
I have to say tho, after almost a complete 2 years of the MPC One, as soon as you have your head wrapped around the basic function, you make beats like it’s nothing. And the smaller complexities will come as you go. And you then have a workflow that your comfortable with
On the portability aspect - this was one thing that made me initially hesitant about getting ten One Vs Live 2. I found there are 90 EUR powerbanks that work like a charm with the One, I bought it and can take my one + headphones or mobile speaker and enjoy making music on it anywhere I go, without having to shell out almost twice as much for Live 2 and sacrifice physical buttons/get a bunch of superficial features ( for me).
For anyone in a similar scenario, the powerbank that was recommended is Xt Power XT-20000QC3 - it works with ten One via an included cable and is able to output 19V/65W. Reported working time is up to 7.5 hours with the MPC One.
Cheers for leaving the name of the powerbank, much appreciated.
Excellent! Thanks for the tip. Got one on Amazon and it arrived today. Works perfectly! Thanks again!
Thank you!
i have live 1 they different this is battery power its 4 on the go
This combo aounds good and i was considering the one, but the ssd in the livenand not having to use a battery bank is just better, i got my live for 550 and it was unused still had the license, the guy i bought it from was too lazy to learn it
I've had the MPC One for 370 days now, great product.
prefer it to my logic x, garageband , roland fa06 roland jdxi or korg electribe mx as a sequencer/workstation/daw
7 songs finished this year so far with it.
Finally, you did the MPC One review/demonstration! Been anticipating this for a long time on this channel.
This round of MPC'S they are all WINNERS!!!!! Great review on the One!
Just got my one+ few days ago amazing machine workflow is not as hard as I thought it would be love it
I have to say I love this machine. I tried the Verselab and the Digitakt before this and while I absolutely love the design and feel of the Digitakt my brain just works alot better with the MPC workflow. I would recommend tho that you get your hands on the Digitakt for a week, I think you'll have alot of fun using it. The design on that one is just amazing. Edit: I want to add, I think the MPC workflow works best if your brain is wired for working with a DAW first and foremost. This is the first box i figured out everything I wanted to do in like 2 sessions without constantly looking at the manual.
What about verselab?Did you keep it or sell it?
Don’t forget a lot of this workflow originated in the 80’s when the MPC 60 came out. You can also create a default project template
....and you blew my mind, Gabe...
with your review. I'll be getting one
now after seeing this. No other
reviewer ever made me want one.
Thanks, buddy ! 👍👏❤🌠
JUST WANNA SAY, how do you cram so much info into a 14min video, and still say going with the flow. I've never heard anyone speak so fast and yet so precise and articulate. You oughta get a grammy award for presentation skills. Thanks for the great video.
Man, your gear reviews are legit. I really appreciate how unbiased you seem to be trying to be. Keep it up 🙏
Glad to see a review post 2.10
Hated Akai for a while. But when this was announced, and I saw videos on it... I was like "hmm"... when Maschine+ was announced, with its insane price, that's the catalyst that made me pull the plug on an MPC One... got an open-box one, mint for only $530. Bought a $90 battery bank (switchable voltage) for it, and it's cheaper than the Live II. The One is the best-designed MPC Akai has made at its price point... those dedicated buttons are so worth it. Glad you're enjoying yours!
What is the model, name, and brand of the battery bank with switchable voltage that you bought?
"pull the plug"
LOL
Great video as usual! I have had numerous groove boxes but always found limitations with each. I have now sold them all to properly focus on the MPC One. It has so much depth and the updates are amazing. For me the ultimate Groovebox!
Can I ask you, I see lots of people referring to groove boxes in ref to this and other machines. Can you say what kinds you got rid of? Jus wondering.
@@openedto I see you never got an answer to your question, and I'm here on this video now, so figured I'd just chime in with something of an answer for you. My experience isn't extensive, but my first try with groovebox was the MC-505 back in the day, and I really enjoyed using it, though I only had it on loan. I then got a Yamaha RM1x, and I found it pretty clunky to work with, overall. I ended up selling that, and abandoning electronic music entirely until last year when I got bit by the bug again. Picked up the MPC One and am constantly blown away with how much it can do for the price I paid for it. It does virtually everything I was able to do with the MC-505 or RM1x, but significantly more. I am still not an expert with the workflow, but there is just so much packed in here, and the fact that it's doing samples and audio tracks, USB support, etc. It's more than the ultimate groovebox, honestly. For my amateur musician needs, it does everything I need. Almost... I have a digital multitrack that I am holding on to for my more analog music, primarily because it goes to 16 tracks and has a lot of knobs and sliders and projects on the drive already. I am sure I could pare down my analog stuff to work on the MPC but recording my mic'd drum kit is going to eat up most of the audio track limit. Anyhow, I digress. If you are looking for something that can do groovebox stuff, and haven't already decided, the MPC One is amazing value. I'm glad I didn't go with a newer Roland, which was my original intent.
Great! I was watching your old videos yesterday. I was feeling like the answer to your DAW-in-a-box quest seemed to me to be one of these things. Congratulations, Gabe! Happy music-making!
As a long-time MPC user (1000 and 2500) I can’t say I’m a big fan of the new MPC user interface. I totally agree with you, I’ve had my MPC One for nearly a year and I’m still not sure if I’m saving my stuff properly, that alone warrants a video (hint)!
MPC is the past present and future of sample based music
It’s very capable even for creating and designing all your sounds from scratch
It's increasingly powerful as a software synth too.
Your microphone that you’re using to record this video is incredible
Great review of a great product. 👍⭐️
As usual Gabe, this is an awesome review. Thanks for sharing it!
It’s a monster. I sent the live BACK for the one. The layout is just better. Great tracks my man. Love the Mass Effect vibes on the key group part 😉 you are indeed correct about the UI hump. It’s why Maschine is still my main.
I did the same. Sent the live 2 back and kept my MPC One. Preferred the layout and the buttons. 2.10 update is awesome
Kept the live 2 for battery
@@thisiswayneo624 I was tempted. But that form factor wasn’t it for me lol I love the clicks on the one. Tactile over menu diving. To each his own though.
What I needed to hear. I'm a hardcore Maschine user and looking to get back into the MPC. The last MPC I used was the 1000 Blue Box (still in service). But definitely looking to add the One to my G.A.S. collection 😎🥃
GAS - Gear Acquisition Syndrome 😬
Honestly, for the feature differences, the Live 2 should be best. But frankly, I don't see either of them truly be amazing. At least the devices are kind of standalone, something you can't say about Maschine. And yes, I'm aware Maschine+ exists, but what's the point of that when it literally doesn't support all plug-ins? Why not go Mikro MK3 (or MK2) and a decent laptop and still have spend less money in total than the Maschine+? It's dumb. Kind of in the same way the Live 2 is a tad much, in what world is it worth over one grand? The price point of the MPC One is really what can make it the best of worlds. But unfortunately I still hate the UI / work flow too much to switch from Maschine (which mind you, doesn't has a flawless work flow either. But the 2.x software is alright/usable).
I've been messing with it myself lately. I think it is finally getting useable for me with some great features. Agreed, the OS may need to be scrapped and redesigned by one person alone. It has that team feel where the teams are not communicating.
Thank you for your views and useful information.
Next year will make 30 years that I've been using MPCs. What remains of the original Linn version is the sequencer and pad layout. It's familiar enough to me that I can get on mostly any model and make a track from start to finish if I just have samples and kits to do Boom Bap. Now with Synths built-in, I can make tracks that would've required at least one multitimbral synth with just the MPC alone
Old head mpc users unite
@@jeremythornton9838I bought the MPC One Plus last week and I absolutely love it. It's replacing my MPC Touch which my Mac won't see. I'm beyond happy. Plus I can do standalone mode for those times I can't wait for the computer
The Mpc range of machines wipes the floor with most kit out there in my opinion once you understand its many features and workflow......such good value for money and with its support its future proof except fot the ram memory...
I have the mpc one and it's intimidating there is so much you can do with this thing I haven't even scratched the surface this is totally a whole studio in a box once you learn how to use it they need to put out a book on the mpc or it should come with a DVD so you can rewind it over and over to learn how to operate this thing
Grab yourself a Copy of the MPC Bible. Thank me later!
🤜🏼💥🤛🏼
You can download the manual, it's over 400 pages.
@@joshculver thanks for your response and help
@@dahnic69 thanks
Yep, MPC bible and the manual plus lots of videos. There are gems from guys like Tubedigga that often show you the most direct ways to do things.
I just wish, given its memory limitations, that it would stream samples from its storage, rather than dump the samples you need into what precious little memory you get.
Definitely looking forward to more explorations and demos.
I use a cam recorder Sony battery to power my MPC One. I don’t even have to plug anymore. Highly recommend. I can jam anywhere/anytime.
That’s my only gripe with the mpc one. Akai missed a trick protecting their live range. The MPC One needs to be a tad thinner and have a built in battery. I can see the the live range giving way for a portable mpc one. Also needs an accessible volume knob on the front maybe.
Cheers Gabe, man keep it up I always leave these videos feeling it was well worth the time.
Refreshing to see the electronic tracks on the MPC. Myself like many others are just sample heads. Something I must try more is making electronic style tracks.
I make mainly electronic music on the mpc and usually only use drum one-hits and key groups for samples and it’s awesome. Instead of sampling records, I’ll often just sample synths or riffs of my playing and chop those up like I would a sample from a song. With the new update, the synthesis capabilities is even better now, although it still excels the most at handling audio I find.
@@djsoo me too. I hate trawling through samples as much as trawling through presets on synths! I only ever do it when I'm stuck for ideas to get a piece started. It's great to play in parts and then chop them - it creates fresh phrases that I'd never normally play! 😎
I just bought the new mpc one retro 🔥🔥🔥 I love it
Regarding the automation part: that would be very easy to solve by using a 3-position switch which is spring-loaded in one direction.
Example: Center position = automation is off, Up is spring loaded = as long as you hold it there, automation continues. Let go of it and it returns to center position, Down = latching, you need to manually put the switch back to center position to stop automation. Or here is another option: 1=Auto.OFF, 2=Auto.WhileHolding, 3=Auto.AlwaysOn
With the 2.10 update, when I plug my external synths into my tascam model 16, I can easily route them into the MPC for effects & sidechaining, then route them back out to the same channel on the mixer. That's MASSIVE. RD-8 kick needs some compression, sorted! Wanna sidechain my neutron off my RD-8 kick, done! I love taking it around and working with just the MPC classic style, but using it as a brain for a hardware rig is where it really opens up the floodgates
ps, I use the XTPower XT-20000QC3 PowerBank with my One to make it portable. Get at least 8hrs of life on a charge with it
This is what I like - taking a product and swapping the whole concept around in ways the developers probably didn't imagine and only enabled accidentally! 😎
Do you rate the Tascam? I've got interested in it or something similar for the workflow you outline due to the update.
@@KM_Mountain I love it. Well worth the money IMO.
MPC owners on this channel have been waiting for this day Gabe 😉
Hey Bud... I thought about doin' a video about this but I don't want to be a content creator. (This should get you a lot of hits as well as new subs.) I haven't seen anyone else put up a video about it and I really wanna see you do well. Not sure if you knew this but you can autosample plugins and get literally THOUSANDS of free keygroups! When you have a plugin sound loaded, just open the sampler, hit the little piano icon, (making sure the sampler is set to Resample L+R), make your settings which should include "Make Current Program" and hit Do It. I love my MPC and can't imagine NOT having it. What a beast! Keep on rockin', Bud.
I think Ave Mcree might have done a video on this but I'll definitely look into it and add it to the list!
This was an excellent, very thoughtful and well put together video. Very helpful, thank you!
Yeh a damn good video gabe.
Excellent review, thanks
I don't think the workflow is clunky at all. Sure, you have to learn the MPC way but once you get it and understand how to access all the features, you'll be flying. The fx are now up to my standards, both with the quantity of choices and the quality. The price for the MPC one is almost too low for what you get.
It’s definitely clunky compared to others…still a good product
@@YattirSmith Likely because you learned another way first
This device is full of bugs. It's a toy.
What do you recommend for a beginner? Short learning curve
You should do a MPC One or Live II "For Dummies". I am older and this video helps but I need a step by step instruction manual. Great work.
I love 16 level note pitching, not to mention key groups mode, and progression pitching on the pads to make yourself sound like a s00per pr0 key player
My wishlist for Akai is to have a mode for the sampler where it triggers recording with the start of the sequence after the count-in. I know there's the looper but I'd like the sampler to do this to keep running instead of looping.
Great review, and I agree with your statement that I feel like I get more out of the MPC One than I paid for it. And I agree it's not the best workflow. I just went on vacation and was trying to decide which piece of gear to bring. The MPC is really an all-in-one and with the new 2.10 update really wanted to bring it, but knew I'd need to also have a screen up to reference the MPC Bible, so I went with my Digitakt.
MPC bible??
Would be awesome if you can give the Akai Force a quick look/review, considering you came in touch with the overall Akai workflow and the fact it is clip based like Ableton (imho much easier to navigate between tracks, also thanks to the 64 pads and 8 encoders). I had the Roland 707 before but the Force seems just more powerful, especialy since v.3.1
Getting it tomorrow we hope thnx miller
i used to have an mpc1000, i hope the workflow is similar.
Additionally I just want to say I appreciate that the headphone out has so much power on it!
Very very good video of everything you do on all videos 👍🎼
Good starter review. Kind of just scratched the surface though.
Midi instrumentation, sound modules, keyboards, mixer desks, and dozens more features. The sampling is very powerful, but the sequencer is on another planet for a standalone.
I can imagine this is one of many reviews you'll make - especially when you start to discover more of what's possible.
Its much more than a Groove box, of which I have a large collection going back to the early 90's ... I have a fully featured studio with a good mix of hardware and software, a really nice desk, and DSD mastering, but I also travel a lot (normally) and love taking mini studios with me. I even built a lithium battery module to power the Akai off grid for hours at a time. So far out of all the Roland, Yamaha, and Korg all in one groove boxes, the MPC took things to a new level ... It really is a studio in a small box. Albeit with a degree of depth to its complexity. But like you said, once you start understanding it's work method, seriously good ideas - even complete tunes can be created. And if needed, extra refinement can be added in the studio with outboard and/or a DAW.
This covers all the stuff I use the most regularly, but yeah I'm definitely planning to dig deeper into individual features in dedicated videos eventually.
Great video, very informative. :) And, of course, great device as well. Besides, thank you for mentioning touch screen and workflow issues. It’s amazing to see content creators mentioning features which can be problematic to sight impaired. :) Again thanks for that.
the new update 2.10 with a ton of new features is even more value.....my fav gear
I'm a Cubase guy checking out the MPC ONE.
I was checking the manual which I downloaded, I was interested in the Track View and Midi layout. I love that they implemented a Midi Grid with a piano roll BUT, to my dismay, I can't find a proper Track View, with lanes, so that I could see what I'm doing, lol.
I just can't believe they didn't implement that type of layout, one can only see a list of tracks, but not the usual layout of it, where you arrange everything, exactly as in Cubase and in other serious DAW. I was considering to give it a try but not now, I need a Midi Grid (which it has) and I need a PROPER Track View (X-axis with all the tracks scrolling when I play them back)...I don't understand why didn't they put that in, it's essential. What do you think about this problem?
On portability there's a youtube video on how to hook it up to a rechargable camera battery. Sure it's a dongle type situation but affordable and you'll be able to use it in the middle of nowhere.
I have a USB pack but it has to be a quick-charge type or it doesn't have the grunt to boot the MPC.
7:03 What? Gabe going Beast Mode on the beat! 🔥
Great demo - very informative. Question: where do you get all the Sounds? What Sounds actually come with it? Appreciate any input ( thinking about getting one ). You music sounded hot, enjoyed it. I Hit like. oNe LovE from NYC
Thanks! It's a mix of places, some of them are Maschine kits that I converted to MPC kits, some of them are from Splice Sounds, and some of them are just dragged directly into the SD card from various sample packs I've bought from producers I like or created myself.
@@GabeMillerMusic So you needed to basically Import most-all the sounds . . . it comes with just the basics? Thanks appreciate the info.
Great review young bro! But I gotta tell ya... the workflow is only "clunky" to you because you're young lol. The MPC is so simple and the workflow is amazingly virtually the same as on the MPC 2000XL... on steroids, of course! And there are FAR more hit records made on the MPC than Ableton and Maschine... COMBINED! If you're an OG than learned on the MPC like me, this is the most powerful and EASIEST standalone ever!!
For me it was the easiest groovebox to learn. Might be because of the big screen and nice graphic. It wasn't as cryptic as other grooveboxes where you need to know some button combos and other nuances. Never had a MPC before.
@@Maochan81 EXACTLY! The fact that you never used an MPC before and rocking it so quickly... means you must be a gifted old soul, bro! Pete Rock, J Dilla, Full Force, Kanye, would all love you!!
i start with an mpc 2000xl around 20yrs ago and loved the workflow from the beginning.
during this years i bought once machine mpc like controller and had a very difficult time with the workflow and never get used to it. i was so happy when the first mpc live was announced. i bought this box on day one and it felt like home from the beginning. now i own an mpc live and mpc one besides my old but gold 2k xl. the best standalone samplers and sequencer's out there. love them.
dont get me wrong, i dont wanna say machine etc. is crap.. this is also a amazing device, but i guess everybody have a other view and mindset of how things have to work. so its great that we all have so much different gear choices, so there is for everybody the right weapon of choice to do some fire!
Young and basically a culture vulture, this kid reeks of " lemme get a mpc because its a wav right now"
It was already great it became a future legend after this latest update 🔥
The mpc one has to be my fave mpc of all of them.
I've been using the MPC one for a year this week. I love it and I'm doing stuff cometely in the box - some stuff on my channel to show
I have the mpc 2500. I’m thinking about getting one of these
4:18 for the voice crack.
If Gabe's mind is blown then it's official!!
The MPC One and the MPC Live are two of the best MPCs in my opinion. The One is super small and great for travelling, and the Live is sick for the fact it runs on a battery and can be charged. With the newer software, you can really get busy on these ....
Had one, got rid of it for stupid reasons, regretted that, going to get another one soon.
In the meantime, I've been digging into the MPC software, Beats mostly, to learn some of the techniques that apply to the standalone boxes.
Sold mine a few months ago. Proably get the one retro soon. Damn.
@@commonsense6407 I thought about the Retro, but I realized paying the extra $100 is akin to adding RGB to a gaming PC; looks neat, but pointless as all get out, (sorry Linus).
Just bought a refurbished Black MPC One off of Amazon; should get it Monday.
@@JakeSweeper the retro coast the same as the black one in my country. Before that I had the gold one, and after a few weeks, I hated that color xD
@@commonsense6407 Really? Lucky. :)
Nice review. Thanks.
Like hardware In/Out for Midi / Audio / CV and ce. the MPC models can put the Maschine in the corner /without MPC ONE that is limited like connections /.For the Midi protocol is enough to know that Steinberg have worked on.For working with the MPC must read and learn to use it.
Yeh... I think this is truly the one box to rule them all that I've wanted since I got my old AKAI DPS24 to behave like a full d.a.w. studio that I could take out to parties... unfortunately it weighed about 30kg and was the size of a human toddler. This one is finally the fully realised unit that should've existed years ago...
Great review, props!
This thing is soooo good. I just want kind of a different workflow. Pattern-based song structures always get me stuck in a loop, instead of composing from beginning to end. So I think the Akai Force's workflow might suit me better.
Good video. One issue with the complexity is unless you're using it every day there's a lot of re-learning. I'll have to get over my laziness and make crib-sheets! 😀
Woah, that beat at 7:20 sounds just sick. I hope I can reproduce similar results with my MC-707 and lots of parameter tweaking, rather than having to purchase a MPC for that :D
Thanks! I'm sure you could do that with the MC-707, the sounds aren't too terribly complicated.
I just bought one.. I f'n love it!!!!!!
Damn, this was a great video
Gabe you are not limited to 8 tracks, limit is 8 tracks synths, 10 tracks audio, 128 midi tracks (Midi, drum and keygroups).
Akai supported these more than any other company, bought og live in 2017
That was a misunderstanding on my part, I just made an edit to the video that will kick in in a bit. Thanks!
@@GabeMillerMusic I had live 1 since they came out....any information you need just ask😉
When you start pushing the track limits (or overloading the playback engine) you can resample pads/tracks down to samples/clips...
@@mungewell yep!
You can bounce audio tracks to samples!!
Useful review!
I love the interface and workflow on the hardware I HATE using the software. It helps if you’ve used past MPCs
The software unfortunately is a giant mess
A clear and honest revieuw👍🏽🍀
Boutta cop one in 20 minutes retro Jawn I’m hype
7:43 - 7:53 sounds really cool
What would you suggest for a very forward thinking beginner if not the MPC ONE? I just dove into a TR8S and I'm not loving how difficult and time consuming it is to get an idea from my head out and playing before it's long lost in trying to manipulate steps with menu diving. That was a long ass sentence! Anyhow, I really like the look of those pads on your MPC and especially making them chromatic. But then as the review goes on it gets terribly overwhelming. Thanks man.
I absolutely LOVE MPC's having owned most of them. However, I must agree that the workflow can be challenging sometimes, especially for some styles of music. I recently bought the MC-707 instead of the One because of the direct access it has with controls. I still may add the One to my studio in the future.
Hi Tom, I have the One but I am really thinking swapping it for the mc 707 for the layout. I know the workflow is not the best but neither the mpc so how are you finding the 707? Many thanks
@@new.romance999 I really love the MC-707. This is definitely an instrument that will remain in my studio. It works great for any style of music. That being said, be aware that there is a learning curve. The advanced features might take you weeks or months to learn, if you are new to Roland products or producing electronic music.
@@TomZentra thanks Tom!
What styles of music are you referring to?
@@TomZentra Most advanced features can be something a producer or artist can live without, i want to know is it gimmicky or not. I've spent used car prices on daws, and plugins.
Similar strategy is needed for Maschine, simple learning curve is robust but once you learn it you will be used to this workflow, I come from Cubase and MIDI to Maschine Mk3 so I have to learn simple things again in different way. At the end we will Export it for Mix or Master it depends on the skill level.
Good review Gabe but can you confirm if you've fully read the manual? I don't think it's justified to say this workflow is complex without committing to reading the manual to understand how the manufacturer is advising you to use this machine. (Or at least read multiple times the sections that don't make sense to you). Watching videos on how to use it is also good but patchy whereas the manual covers the full A-Z of how this product operates.
As you said this is a powerful machine and to make this amount of power available to the masses, a different approach is required to that of which our brains are currently used to. For that I think Akai are doing a good job.
I only recently got my MPC One and found it quite difficult initially. However, even just a few tens of pages into the manual I was having constant 'Aha' moments where I realized how damn amazing this machine is. It's actually blown me away.
Trying to use all the capabilities of this machine in a 'traditional DAW workflow' I feel would severely undermine the whole purpose of this product. We simply have to spend time retraining our subconscious with the Akai way of doing things...
The MPC one is going to be my next purchase I'm using the novation circuit rhythm as my main sampler at the moment it's good enough but it's no MPC it's just learning the workflow that's putting me off was thinking of getting the sp404 mk 2 but I think the mpc is a more rounded products unit
MPC one looks nice and is a great price, but how does its workflow compare to Maschine Mk3? I would love to see a digitakt review.
I would love for you to review the synthstrom deluge.
For keygroups and synth samples is there a good resource or recommended site/pack for gritty 80's analog. John carptenter/blade runner/legend. Basically that scifi cinematic sound. Still learning the ropes of the MPC.
Great video. I always wanted to try one and bought the MPC One before the pandemic and immediately returned it because the workflow was awful. Glad to know I’m not alone in those feelings.
Hi man! Nice video! I’d like to know if the MPC One has a mode similar to Ableton where you can launch clips, MIDI or audio. I’m looking for a machine that can be the brain of my setup in order to sequence all the synths + play audio samples, but I really would like to have the option to easily trigger “individual” MIDI sequences to play synths during the performance, independently of the position in a song or track… I see that at the beginning of the new update explanation, you’re triggering tracks to show the synth engines. That’s basically what I’m looking for but how many tracks/clips can be accessed in that mode? 16 or more?
If you have it in control mode you can use all your VST plugins that you have in your computer it will show up in the MPC one
Fantastic video man looking forward to seeing more dives into this in the future
Since you have now used both this and Maschine +
I have to ask which is the better stand alone production station ?
I still like the Maschine workflow and virtual instruments better, but the value for money and processer performance are so much better on the MPC
Been messing with the MPC one and posted a few beats. I like it it's a great machine, I love it for drums.
If you try the MPCX, my goodness.
Top review & update 👍
Dope beat at the beginning of the vid. Where can I listen to it as a complete beat? Thanks for the awesome review.
Great review! BTW: You can increase the polyphony of individual pads in drum programs as well...
Was going to mention that one, but you beat me.
this was a great review. there was justr something i couldn't gel with about the MCP one, i had mine for about a week before selling itm, the workflow just gelt off. i came from a digitakt/octatrack/ableton(push) workflow and seem to prefer the elektron stuff better.
brilliant review (as always) and cant wait to see what you put out next
Interesting. I also feel like the workflow isn't quite right... but for different reasons. I'm trying to get away from Elektron, and find that the MPC isn't different enough.
@@ToyKeeper oh, curious whats wanting you to get away from elektron ?
@@KenithCopeland I just want kind of a different workflow. Pattern-based song structures always get me stuck in a loop, instead of composing from beginning to end. So I think the Akai Force's workflow might suit me better.
I've used trackers and Digitakt and loopers and stuff like that, but with those, it heavily pushes the user toward doing a single pattern which changes by adding/removing layers, doing algorithmic changes, or jamming. It's fun and easy, but the songs generally don't go anywhere. It's just a frozen moment in time, with variations.
So I'm trying to focus more on a timeline-based workflow... and that's the one thing the MPC products don't really do. It can chain patterns, but there are still hard partitions between, and each pattern basically needs all the settings and instruments copy/pasted back and forth.
At best, pattern-based systems are designed for the user to flesh out a single pattern including all the voicing and levels and effects, and then copy/paste it and edit to extend the song length. But I want to write out a few minutes worth of melody, then go back to add harmony, then add drums, then adjust the voicing, then maybe adjust the arrangement and voicing and stuff again, then adjust the mixing and effects... and then render it to a .wav file.
So... basically I'm looking for something like Ableton, but without a computer. And MPC is great, but that's not what it is.
@@ToyKeeper solid reasoning man, i hope you can find what your looking for. i hear akai force is supposed to get a new firmware upgrade like the mpc's did, maybe that might be more what your looking for, good luck mate
@@ToyKeeper is the MV-1 closer to the workflow you've been looking for?