Iron Gwazi vs. Steel Vengeance - The Battle for the Best Hyper Hybrid!
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- These 200+ foot tall monstrosity's stand as the largest RMC's in the United States. Back when Steel Vengeance first opened, it was considered the best coaster in the world by many. Now, with Iron Gwazi open at Busch Gardens Tampa, it's got us wondering if Steel Vengeance is still king. We went around both parks and asked people which they preferred- and the answer may surprise you!
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Steel vengeance. The part where you are basically inside the coaster structure and doing inversions so unique and amazing that hasn’t be replicated
Wicked psyclone, Zadra, Hakugei, Arieforce One.
I'm still taking Steel Vengeance but just barely. It feels more out of control during the second half while going through the supports and the last zero G roll feels like it goes on forever. SV is longer but all the extra length is of quality.
Gwazi has a better first drop though and a very impressive ending of it's own.
Love your vids bro. Not to sound weird, but we’d get along super well. Horror and coasters are my two top favorite things in the entire universe lol
yo cz i didnt know you did coasters! i love your videos!
@@BandoBrain same here. I guess we just like being scared.
Went on a graduation trip a week ago. Was highly debating between going to Ohio and knocking out cedar point and kings island or going to Florida and doing sea world, the universal resort parks, and Busch gardens. Ended up going to Florida, and seeing this makes me feel like I made the right decision. Experiencing velocicoaster, mako, and iron gwazi for the first time all in under a week was mind-blowing.
lucky mf😭
i went to miami a few weeks ago and we drove to only Tampa but next time I go to florida.. u bet I’m hitting those parks. The only other RMC I’ve ridden is Twisted Colossus, and ik that it’s not really a contest but damn. Iron Gwazi is amazing
Dont be sleeping on cedar point! Those FL rides are incredible but those parks can't match the sheer amount and consistency of cedar point. Definitely try to go sometime!
@@traviscrawford6516 I don't think they're sleeping on Cedar point, The entirety of Florida parks versus Ohio parks is just no comparison. Florida parks put Ohio into the dirt, and no one can argue otherwise.
Obviously hit both at some point, but if both are first time trips, definitely Florida first.
That is a lot to take in
Iron Gwazi wins if you want a more insane chaotic experience. Steel Vengeance wins if you want a feast of glorious airtime. I personally still prefer Steel Vengeance. I don't agree that IG is higher quality. I think it's just more diverse but I like the airtime more on Steel Vengeance in terms of quality and quantity and the inversions are also great as is the dizzying ride through the structure.
Put another way, Iron Gwazi is like a fancy new dish at a world class Thai restaurant full of flavor and spice that everyone is raving about. Steel Vengeance is like the finest cut of Kobe beef tenderloin at the best steakhouse.
Maybe I'm just hungry.
Now I’m hungry too… Let’s go to a churrascaria
@@capstate818 you know, I've often thought that EPCOT needed a Brazil pavilion with a Churrascaria. That would be INCREDIBLY popular. I wish more parks had sitdown restaurants as opposed cafeterias and fast food.
Also crazy that Steel Vengeance didn't get a single point???
@@christianortiz-v1l the poll might be biased because iron gwazi is newer
What i don't get though is that if people want a feast of glorious airtime, why aren't they saying Twisted Timbers is their favorite RMC? That ride destroys SV in ejector airtime. It's really not even close. Just those 3 airtime hills in a row beat everything on SV IMO.
I'd agree that iron gwazi has better elements and moments but I really do like the full package of steel vengence. The night ride going through all the wood structure when I rode it the first time was magical. Only rode both twice though so its still up in the air for me.
I did Steel Vengeance 10 times at night thanks to Coaster Campout's Midnight ERT on SteVe, it's so dark in that structure, even with the spotlights, you actually get disoriented in those Zero-G Rolls
@@coastaku1954 literally!! I thought the roll was over and we went A whole nother 90 degrees. Never been so disoriented on a ride. It was great 🤣
@@scs998 That happened to me too!
@@coastaku1954 ditto. The most under appreciated thing about SV is being disoriented at night as you weasel through the structure.
@@KALLISSTO It’s only one of 2 RMC redos that retains all laps of the original course too, Twisted Timbers also has the same layout as the original ride, that’s what makes it so good
I've been on both iron gwazi and steel vengence, I think that steel vengence is better because it's longer and I prefer airtime elements.
Yes steel vengeance is so good
@@alessio2968 frrrrrrr. i've had the privelege to be able to ride both (more so on iron gwazi)
With Iron Gwazi, every other ride is pretty much irrelevant (besides Montu, SheiKra, Kumba, Cheetah Hunt, and Falcon's Fury)
@@christianortiz-v1l Yes in the park for sure.
THANK YOU
I'm still a SteVe guy. It's my #1 coaster and it will probably stay that way for a long time. I prefer it for its length and abundance of airtime. Don't get me wrong, Iron Gwazi is a phenomenal ride and currently sits in my top 5.
Hey, I am leaning a bit towards IG but I get it. Steel Vengeance is a beast. The inner structure part after the brake run is what makes the rides close for me.
I've had the opportunity to ride Iron Gwazi about 5 times 2 weeks ago. I've ridden Steele Vengeance at least a dozen times. I prefer Steele Vengeance between the two. The night ride on SV as you go thru the structure is just otherworldly.
Haven’t ridden Gwazi yet but have to agree. That SteVe night ride is glorious
Fr that was my first ride was at night and you literally can't tell which was is up at the end.
I rode it at night in the rain at least 20 times during the first season with no brake run and it was epic. The inner structure part is my favorite part of the coaster. So disorientingly awesome.
I am so sad that I didn’t get Steve at night or gwazi at night atleast I got my 2 Mille rides on last train at night
I rode Iron Gwazi on opening day and Steel Vengeance yesterday, and I gotta say I prefer Iron Gwazis intensity and diversity over SteVes length and airtime. I’m excited to see what you think!
Edit: After watching the video, it seems that a lot of people have the same opinion lol
Admittedly, I've never ridden Steel Vengeance. However, I can say this: There's no doubt Iron Gwazi would be a mighty tough act to follow.
Without getting into too much detail, I think what struck me most about IG was the claim of "12 air time opportunities". That's BS, the ENTIRE RIDE is airtime. Riding in the rear car, other than the first hill I don't think my butt was touching the seat for more than 5 seconds from start to finish.
I'm 61, been riding coasters since I was about 10, and have never experienced anywhere near the level of insanity that this ride delivers. Major kudos to the designer, pure genius!
I am of the opinion that both rides (along with Velocicoaster) are kind of in a league of their own. One thing that occurred to me is that Iron Gwazi really is just a more refined version of Vengeance, they took something that most considered flawless and improved on it further, both coasters are right at the top of my list, but if I had to choose, it'd be Gwazi.
My sister and I are big coaster enthusiasts and I love watching your channel. You make such good videos, and what I like is that you and Sarah really feel like real people, so we all can relate to that. Thank you for your work!
Steve, a lot of reasons better airtime moments, the inversions inside the frame, THE HEADCHOPPERS, a masterpiece, nothing can top it.
I’ve ridden both and still give Steel Vengeance the edge. Not just with the length, but with all of the airtime and the second half taking place inside the first half
I would have to personally give it to Iron Gwazi. There’s an argument for both coasters as Steel Vengeance is much longer and features more airtime moments, but Iron Gwazi is intense, fast paced, and the ejector is ridiculous. Plus, I feel like the nostalgia hits better on Iron Gwazi.
Steel vengeance is better
I’ve only ridden them both on RUclips povs lol - so… I don’t have ANY real
Perspective - but I thought how Steel Vengeance goes through the structure is unreal. Like that alone makes it so amazing
I haven't ridden Iron Gwazi, but I strongly believe Steel Vengeance is a more of a masterpiece and complete ride - both from an artistic perspective and as a ride experience.
By just looking at the layouts and stats on paper, it's peculiar that Iron Gwazi gets quoted in this video multiple times as being a better ride experience because it's more "intense", but there's virtually no talk at all about Steel Vengeance being the only RMC's that travels through it's own structure in such a brilliant way - with wave turns and inversions galore, the second half of Vengeance honestly makes it feel like two rides in one. This is where Vengeance shines. It's a two-part experience, which it doesn't sound like Gwazi has.
I'm sure I'd absolutely love Gwazi, but for me I just can't imagine something topping Steel Vengeance. Multiple times in this video people say Vengeance is "repetitive" and I entirely disagree. It may feel that way due to "lapping" through the same geographical space three times, but each lap is entirely different. Gwazi seems like intensity through and through, but Vengeance actually has variation, so it makes no sense to say it's repetative.
I think this is a great video, but was too biased towards Gwazi. There is a reason Vengeance is #1 on captaincoaster.com.
That being said, my entire comment is somewhat irrelevant until I ride Gwazi myself someday lol.
I just wanted to stand up for my favorite coaster. 😊 Rant over.
Cedar Point is my home park, so I've been on steel Vengeance numerous times. We went to Florida in May and rode Iron Gwazi. I agree, it's more intense, but I like the fluidity of steel Vengeance better. Obviously, I only get to Florida once a year. For now, Steel Vengeance
Just rode iron gwazi for the first time today. First time Front row and second time middle Train.
Gwazi was smoother and first hill seemed faster. Steel vengeance is like an out of control bronco from start to finish.
However, I will go with steel vengeance. It it’s close though, they are both awesome rides.
Meanwhile in Poland: 🐉 🔪 🐊 ⛓
I haven’t had the privilege of riding either of these but damn I fiend for the opportunity to experience both coasters!
I've had the pleasure of riding both Iron Gwazi & Steel Vengeance this year & STEEL VENGEANCE IS THE BEST HANDS DOWN!! STEEL VENGEANCE is the BEST RMC COASTER!! #IMO
You clearly haven't ridden Zadra yet lol, but I get it. Zadra is my favourite coaster of all time, iron gwazi is second and I'd say steel vengeance is number three. El Toro at number four.
Steel Vengeance is definitely my favorite and I hate Cedar Point. I prefer Carowinds over CP because Fury 325 is that dude!
It takes a bit for me to get my bearings back after riding Iron Gwazi. The "what the hell just happened" look from riders when you hit the brake run speaks volumes of how amazing this ride is.
So the same as steel vengeance
@@arnisbole7821 You are not hitting the brake run hauling on Steel Vengeance.
@@jayantonio5936 your hitting the break run like dam what the hell just happened and that was only the first part
@@arnisbole7821 lol you mean the mid course which IG doesn't have which again adds to my point of hitting the final brakes hauling.
@@jayantonio5936 the mid course on steel vengeance has never really slowed my train down lmao. And when it does it BARELY does. It’s only really there so they can send another train.
Iron Gwazi lived up to my expectations and literally blew me away. It’s intense, but not the I-305 intensity where I was graying out. I loved it. Definitely in my top 3….maybe even number 1…
You guys did a outstanding on the documentary I loved it to the beginning to the end!!!
I got to experience Iron Gwazi last week and was fortunate to get 12 rides on it. The ride was so intense it actually made my the iPhone in my zipper pocket call 911, which was hilarious. I had to explain to the dispatch operator that I was on the brake run of a roller coaster and that I was fine, even though i couldn't reach my phone. That said, I give the slight edge to Steel Vengeance. I appreciate the extra ride time and disorienting 2nd half of the ride traveling through the massive wooden structure. Both are excellent, however.
I’ve only ridden them both on RUclips povs lol - so… I don’t have ANY real
Perspective - but I thought how Steel Vengeance goes through the structure is unreal
Steel Vengeance because of the length and quality never fades. Also, because of more night ride opportunities especially in the fall and cooler climate.
Due to BGT's location and hours of operation, you rarely get a chance for night rides on Iron Gwazi and you almost never get a nice cool day, even if you go in February
Okay… hear me out. Steel Vengeance is the best coaster in the world as far as experience packed into elements on a coaster. Iron Gwazi has the best layout in the world. Velocicoaster has the best over-all experience in the world.
Iron Gwazi def is more aggressive and while having a break run, I truly appreciate the time of the ride on Steel Vengeance and the amount of airtime also I love the portion of the ride that goes through the foundation of SV. So #TeamSV for me.
(Sidenote: someone in the video made a great point, the operations for IG are so much better IMO)
I think it’s the opposite in terms of operations. I’ve been to cedar point 3 this summer and haven’t waited more than an hour for steel vengeance, even on a Saturday. They were pumping trains out in less than a minute. I’ve got family who lives in Florida and has visited BGT a lot and they told me Gwazi has had the worst ops in the park, like 3-4 minute dispatches.
@@brianharrington7663 can confirm. Ive been going every weekend and gwazi operations are insanely slow. And its even worse right now because they are short staffed and have only 2 operators loading passengers instead of the usual 4. Plus gwazi can only run 2 trains.
I still need to ride Iron Gwazi but just looking at your reactions and the speed of the inversions, plus the variety, I think Iron Gwazi might be better, I'm fine with Steel Vengeance's repetition but I think a Zero-G Stall, like a proper one and a Rolling Death Dive (Or whatever it's called) would have done wonders for it.
I feel like they used steel vengeance as a massive testing ground for what’s possible. They basically did the death roll on steel vengeance, only it’s uphill. And I’m sure they would’ve done a death roll out of that section if they didn’t already have a death roll into it.
@@bushwxcker540 The, what I call the "Wicked Cyclone Psyche Roll", is pretty good, but I have yet to experience a death roll and a prolonged Stall
I'm a firm believer that Steel Vengeance is better because the ride is WAY longer, and has the vastly superior airtime. I haven't ridden Iron Gwazi, but it appears that it only has like 5 elements that really pop, and the ride is a lot shorter.
I’ve ridden both SV blows Gwazi away
Give Iron Gwazi a try. I think the airtime is significantly better than it looks on POVs. That said, I think the airtime quality is still better on Steel Vengeance because it is more sustained in the first half. And the second half is just wonderful as well. But I don't buy the argument that Iron Gwazi has the better quality elements as everyone in this video seems to feel. I think the elements are just more abrupt and chaotic so people who have become accustomed to RMCs probably like it because it adds variety. But variety does not necessarily equal quality.
He does make a point tho that gwazi just has a lot less airtime moments, I’ve never ridden gwazi but it’s just obvious that there’s only like 5 or 6 true airtime moments, he never said the airtime itself is weaker he just said SteVe has the better airtime overall because it has more of it
@@MillenniumForceMan I for one prefer rides with length and airtime, but I do value variety. Since airtime is my forte, Steel Vengeance seems to be what I would choose, but I'm riding Gwazi someday!
@@andrewpritchard1526 exactly, I prefer a a wilder ride with great pacing even if it’s a bit short and lacking a little airtime which is why I’d prefer gwazi, what makes no sense to me is the ppl that place SteVe over rides like maverick or I305 but then turn around and place gwazi over SteVe, to me that just seems very hypocritical and like u just call whatever RMC is the “most popular” at the time your favorite instead of what u actually prefer in a ride, like they had SteVe at 1 and made an argument for that but then rode gwazi and that becomes their 1 and had a completely different argument that goes directly against their argument for why they liked SteVe
My last ride on SteVe was 2 weeks ago, rode Gwazi last year and both are fantastic rides. Gwazi felt more chaotic & intense which is awesome but there is something about SteVe! Fantastic long layout, love flying in and out of it’s structure and night rides are legendary! I found myself loving the elements & their placement just a tad bit more on SteVe than Gwazi. Airtime is plentiful on SteVe and if you have the pleasure of a backseat ride…it feels like a bullet leaving a gun! To be 100% honest, I never notice the MCBR so it’s never detracted from the ride for me. All in all, Busch Gardens have a hit on their hands with Iron Gwazi, definitely a fabulous ride but for me Steel Vengeance has the edge!
Steel Vengance is my favorite coaster! I want to ride Iron Gwazi at some point! Love RMC!
Hey now, The Beast is not the most intense ride in the world but it is a fantastic night ride and an absolute classic.
Met Kalin a few days ago waiting in line for Iron Gwazi to open. So excited I got to see people I recognize and ride with him.
Steel Vengeance was my #1 for four years, but it recently got dethroned by VelociCoaster. Riding that for the first time made me realize how repetitive SV is and how it mainly has one type of force, airtime. That’s not a knock at all, but I’ve discovered I like coasters that do all the forces well. VelociCoaster DOES do everything extremely well with a great variety of elements plus it’s very long, and as a bonus the theming is world class. I’ve always loved how Maverick is a jack of all trades and VelociCoaster took that concept to the next level. If Iron Gwazi is what everyone says it is, I’ll probably prefer it over SV but I’m not sure about VelociCoaster.
What theme does Velocicoaster actually have? A stationary raptor?
I’m heading to Kings Island for the first time this Friday. Have you been there? If so any tips?
Velocicoaster seems slow and boring compared to iron gwazi in my opinion. It's still super fun. But not even in the same league as far as pacing goes. Iron gwazi leaves you shocked when you hit the breaks. It's so intense you don't know what's happening. All opinions of course
@@asudevil316 Surprisingly, there’s more theming than raptors made out of concrete
-Rockwork
-Flora
-Water Features
-Lighting that tailors to the train’s location
-Paddock walls and fences
-The opening launch being you literally launching out of raptor cages
-Let’s not forget the queue
-Amazing opening atrium
-Really cool animatronic raptor
-Appearance from Mr. DNA
-Screen showing the operating tower (which you can see outside and the video tailors to the time of day)
-Fun banter between Owen and Claire
-InGen equipment
-The whole idea of the ride being that the company behind Jurassic World decides to build a roller coaster in a raptor paddock
I’ve only ridden steel vengeance once and haven’t ridden iron gwazi, so I can’t say which is better, but steel vengeance is currently my favorite ride.
The 0g stall and some of the airtimes seem better on Zadra but that roll descent and the side ejectors on Iron Gwazi.. I need to try it
I’m still a lightning Rod guy lmao, where’s the love for that 😂😂😂
“This episode was sponsored by Seaworld Parks and Entertainment”… kidding 😂😂
Taylor in the Velocicoaster vs Iron Gwazi vid I'm pretty sure you picked VC over it. Then you ranked SV as your number 1 over VC. Does this mean you now like Iron Gwazi more than VC?
Coasters of this level are really hard to rank. They can change from one ride to the next. Phantom's revenge is a great example. I will go several years not riding it and it slides down my rankings but then I ride it again and it jumps into my top 10.
This video kind of cheers me up after being left sour from the CGA news…
I rode Steve last year and iron gwazi late February and I’m going to cp tommorow! I wonder if I will still like iron gwazi more!
As much as I love Iron Gwazi - it's my N1 - this video really did SV dirty. The ride is still ridiculous with great airtime and forces, sure its not as intense as Gwazi, but Gwazi isn't perfect either - cough that mediocre stall.
I feel like all zero g stalls are pretty lame. Was always so excited to try one since seeing them be built, but recently got to ride jersey devil and the stall was probably the most lame part of the ride.
@@bushwxcker540 tbf it's JDC so it actually delivering on an element is quite a shock but still yea...
I don't get the appeal of stalls - they can have good whip, but that can be better executed on a transition or wave turn, and I find the inverted track just a waste of track as the weightlessness it delivers really doesn't blend on the type of rides they're used on imo.
The stall on Zadra is epic. IG’s is comparatively underwhelming.
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Havent ridden Gwazi yet, but I could absolutely see it beating Steel Vengeance for my new #1 coaster. Also think Zadra could be up there in the mix as well for best RMC so hope you guys enjoy it in Europe!
Gwazi is the ride that made Charlie unable to ride roller coasters ever again please don’t ride it
@@Legend-vm9uv That was the old Gwazi back when it was a racing wooden coaster. It used to be really rough, so rough that it made Charlie hate roller coasters. RMC overhauled the whole thing and put steel track on it and now it is a smooth, more intense coaster.
Most people actually prefer Untamed to Zadra from what I have seen. Hakugei is probably the best non US RMC from what I have heard. I haven't ridden any of them sadly.
I rode iron gwazi just yesterday, and man was that something. It’s currently at my #2 because of El Toro being closer to my house. Location is what separates this from #1 and #2.
El Toro and SteVe are two coasters I love but I can't decide which should be my #1 and #2... SteVe was my #1 but when Sarah put El Toro as her #1 because of it's importance to her, what made her an enthusiast... El Toro was the same for me, it was the first time I had a back seat ride, the first Ejector airtime I ever felt, the first coaster I marathoned (24 times in one day, 14 of which in a row), it was the most intense coaster I ever rode and I loved it to pieces. It was my #1 till I rode SteVe, but now I think El Toro deserves to be my #1 because of what it means to me, I just haven't ridden it since 2018 due to circumstances...
Probably why Iron Gwazi is my number one, since it’s at one of my home parks.
I havent ever been on iron gwazi but i have been on velocicoaster and i have heard that they are both in their own league of roller coasters. Velocicoaster is currently my number 3 ride right behind revenge of the mummy (crazy ass theming) and montu (yes i have been to parks outside of florida). For me personally, a front row ride on montu is the craziest roller coaster experience ive ever had and i hope that iron gwazi can live up to that.
Back row on montu is far better
My top 3 Coasters are
1. Steel Vengeance
2. Velocicoaster
3. Iron Gwazi
Oh I have ridden both Steel Vengeance and Iron Gwazi - and I have to add another vote for Iron Gwazi on intensity here!!! You seriously cannot breathe on the Gwazi at all - it just keeps throwing intensity at you - which makes it my fav! Great video!
Iron Gwazi is a big action packed hyper hybrid.
I've never ridden Sv but it sounds like IG does what SV does but without any filler? It's shorter, but it accomplishes a LOT in that time
we need a Reboot of this
I rode Steel Vengeance when it was still 2-3 months old. And it's been my favorite since until I rode Iron Gwazi. You're right, you come off shook. Ride is just on the edge of a near grey out the entire time haha. It feels faster than Steel Vengeance for some reason too.
I misread that as "I rode Steel Vengeance when I was still 2-3 months old" and was very concerned for a second
@@plighting_engineerdme too
Steel Vengeance my only hyper hybrid ride. Hopefully riding Iron Gwazi soon.
Y’all are NUTS. Did multiple IG rides in April and it’s a fantastic ride, but SV redefined what a RMC can be. Rode it three times two weeks back and it’s better than ever. Perfect RMC and nearly-perfect coaster. It’s splitting hairs when you’re talking about rides of this level, but SV is a clear winner in my book.
😂😂😂 this was definitely a very entertaining video, thank you! We rewatched "This Is How We Roll" again this weekend that's definitely the greatest coaster documentary I've ever seen. I Hope you get some kind of award or at least recognized for your efforts💯 So what I'm going to say next is all in fun and I hope none of your fanboys stalk me, hack me, or make me disappear🤷🏽♂️🤣 but that video was COMPLETELY BIASED! looks like you're talking to your friends and honestly looks very STAGED 💯 I just came from Coaster Con44 (at the banquet your guy Jacob Kilcup from RMC gave the keynote address/ speach) He gave a great speech but everyone at our table was laughing because as he ran down the history of RMC, we all already knew what was coming next from watching "This is how we roll" so it was kind of funny, we all started looking at each other and we're like "did you watch coaster Studios documentary?" And everyone was like "Yeah, a few times"😊 so that was a great moment I wanted to share BUT point is.....@Coaster Con where you have people from all over the country even the world, I talked to ALOT of people over a 4 day period, and most of them were Team SteVe OVER Iron Gwazi..... I personally go with sTeVe because I think they're very similar, and if I can have the same thing but more of it, then sign me up. I don't see any huge differences other than the the length, and then on IG there is that death roll, (that death roll on IG is INSANE) but I'm saying for the MOST PART, 95% of the rides feel very similar for me so I'm.saying sTeVe for the quantity, quality, and it's 40 mins from my home💯 But MOST people at Coaster Con were all taking Steel Vengeance! So maybe THAT would have been a good place to do this survey, NOT at Iron Gwazis opening day months ago after 2 years of hype and anticipation,🤣(nice try tho) but at a coaster convention, with people who are not just your buddies who are dying to agree with you because your you, but where you have a DIVERSE, wide spectrum of different people💯 OH ..... and tell Schwartz to GET OFF THESE ROLLER COASTERS AND GET TO BEREA!!!! (He'll know what I mean😂) I live in Cleveland and he better do his thing this year because if he doesn't I'm going to know why, and I'm going to put hime on blast.... he's too busy stacking his credit count, he needs to start stacking the stat sheet this year and leave the coasters to you! So tell him we have high hopes for him, and to GET TO WORK! WE NEED HIM THIS YEAR!!! 💯🤣🤣🤣
seriously tho, keep up the great work, and be safe on that trip✌🏾✌🏾✌🏾
Thanks for your feedback! That’s awesome you got to hear Jake speak, and that you knew so much of RMC’s backstory because of our film. But I gotta emphasize, we didn’t stage any of this! Yes we did ask a lot of our friends, but we didn’t tell anyone which they should vote for! And we actually filmed it months after Iron Gwazi opened, none of it was from opening day. But It definitely blew our minds that we didn’t get anyone on camera who lived SV better- it was just luck of the draw!
I road Steel Vengeance with no trims. Sooooo I don’t know, but I can’t imagine more intense than Vengeance. Look forward to hitting Gwazi at some point.
See this is the arguement that everyone's making thats not a great arguement. They say "gwazis more intense" or "gwazi has no dull moment its fast all the way through" but like so is Steel Vengeance. Steel Vengeance remains its speed the whole way through, has almost double the prime ride time as gwazi, way more airtime, and better elements. Sure, gwazi has the death roll, but SteVe has the double top hat, the crazy whippy stall, insane airtime, and a couple great wave turns. I heard gwazis stall is very underwhelming, and i heard the overbank that busch gardens is calling an inversion also doesnt really do much for anyone. Steel Vengeance has everything gwazi has and more. Its a longer ride, way more airtime, and zero dead spots unlike gwazi which has the boring stall, and forceless overbank "inversion". I'm sorry but Steel Vengeance is simply the better coaster. I guarentee you if SteVe came out after gwazi, and this video was made asking people which one was better after riding SteVe for the first time, everyone would say Steel Vengeance. Good video, but I have top disagree. Steel Vengeance is the better coaster.
Iron Gwazi has the better layout and better elements but Steel Vengeance is longer and has more airtime. I think it’s what you prefer that makes one of them better than the other
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I like Gwazi's drop and a couple of the other elements better, but overall have to go with Steel Vengeance. When you actually think about all the elements Steeel Vengeance has to offer, it just wins for me. The different ways it delivers airtime, the inversions in the lift hill, the elements in the structure, the outerbank, they combine to make an overall better ride. I haven't gotten a night ride on IG, and have a bunch on SV, but I don't think that would change it for me.
imo : SteVe > Zadra > Gwazi (I did ride SteVe trim-less at openning tho).
But if you're on Gwazi team then it's probably Zadra > Gwazi > SteVe.
All and all they're all insane coasters way above pretty much everything else and only personnal taste will make the "ranking" differ.
Also, it's quite amazing to see how we're getting so many world-class new coasters nowadays about every single year. What a great time to be a coaster nerd :D
I would hope that RMC would have gotten better in the years between these two coasters.
If SV doesn't keep you interested the entire time, you're just absolutely delusional lmfao. BEST roller coaster in the entire damn world.
I haven’t been to Cedar Point since 2018 when Steel Vengeance opened, but just did Iron Gwazi about a month ago, and it is incredible.
i kinda think it comes down to preference. If you prefer more airtime elements, steel vengeance is probably the ride for you, if you prefer intensity you'll probably like gwazi more
Might as well call this the new Coaster Fights series. Like to see something like this for parks where you visit two parks and ask which is better.
Iron Gwazi beats out Steel Vengeance by a long shot. And I loved SteVe
What about Zadra
Thankfully he's on Europe trip right now
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I have not ridden Steel Vengeance but Iron Gwazi is by far the best experience I have ever had and I think I would still prefer it when I ride SteVe. Steel Vengeance is all about the ejector but the violence with the whip and pacing of Gwazi is unbelievable for a roller coaster.
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I rode Steel Vengeance for the first time last week…what a ride!!!! Funny thing is - I live in Tampa like 15 minutes from Busch Gardens! I’ve got to check out Iron Gwazi asap!
Just this past week I rode Iron Gwazi, I haven't ridden Steel Vengeance but I'll say slamming into the brake run on Iron Gwazi I didn't know what to say, it's like all you can think about is what just happened to you and it's wild.
The only RMC i've done is Zadra on my trip to Energylandia in April.
I honestly preferred Hyperion over Zadra, the hypercoaster. Zadra was too intense and wild to really enjoy the layout as i was just like WTF the entire time, still not really sure what happened
I was the opposite - Zadra was indeed intense and wild but stayed glass smooth throughout, whereas Hyperion was jolty in parts, which really took a lot of the fun out of it. Some strong ejector airtime in the first part though.
@@dingo137 exactly my thoughts
I feel theyre both top 3 for sure in rmc. I think it comes down to the length of both rides, steel vengeance is longer than gwazi and thats about the only main thing it has differently. Gwazi also has the heartline death roll thingy too which is unique
Iron Gwazi is just what would happen if Outlaw Run and Steel Vengeance had a baby and I love it lol
Iron Gwazi being in Florida where it is hot most of the year might also affect the pacing. I went to Cedar Point in June and it was cold and cloudy two of the three days that I was there. Went to Busch Gardens, same time of year, and it was one of the Hottest days of my life.
My wife and I happened to be in Florida when they started having the pass holder previews and had to buy the most expensive pass to ride (the only day we will be able to go this year). So we spent a ton of money just to ride IG and still think Steve is better. We just can't get past the amazing airtime on Steve. I also think Velicoaster is better than both.
SteVe is way more wild and relentless than Gwazi. Everyone always likes to use the words "compact layout" when the coaster is a lot shorter. SteVe's footprint is actually smaller than Gwazi's. how's that for compact. a good amount more track in a smaller footprint, I'd say that creates a better coaster every time. Also gotta love how they inched out the record like a bunch of lazy pansies, I mean at least go 5 feet, jesus.
Iron Gwazi is way too short for me and I’dont care about repetition STEEL VENGEANCE ALL DAY!
I’m pretty surprised at the love of Iron Gwazi over Steel Vengeance although I can see why. They’re both right there for me and it’s tough picking a favorite, but after riding them in the same week and needing to rank them, I put Steel Vengeance over for the length, airtime, and inversions. If Iron Gwazi had an extra barrel roll and longer stall maybe that would be it, but it still has a very strong collection of elements. I’ve gone back and forth before too but I think I’ll be sticking with SteVe over Gwazi for now. They’re ranked 3 and 4 out of 109 for me, granted my top 4 are pretty interchangeable but I feel good about the spots they’re in at the moment.
i honestly thought gwazi was gonna win but i wasn’t thinking it would be THAT big of a win
I think some of it may be recency bias but I still think that ig provides a more intense ride. I don't think I would grey out on sv as much as I did on IG
For what I know, my 5 faves are, in order - Velocicoaster
Iron Gwazi
Mako
Hulk
Tigris
Well Iron Gwazi Has The Better Layout Better Airtime And Pacing But Steel Vengeance Has More Length Airtime Overall And Inversions Imo The Death Stall Is Still The Best Inversion But Steel Vengeance's 4 Inversions Beat That Singular Inversion For Me
I've never ridden either, but I'm going to Florida, so I NEED TO HEAD TO OHIO SOON
I can’t wait to finally make the pilgrimage to Cedar Point . My top three are Iron Gwazi , Fury 325 and Montu
I love how this video is a big middle finger to Steel Vengeance
Lol I think it's more of a love letter to RMC seeing as how they made another amazing coaster.
Rode IG today, and it makes my #1 for pure intensity. I didn’t feel like it let up for a moment. SV is very close, but not quite as intense.
I feel like steel vengance has more personality. theres so many imfamous elements the top hat and the outer bank are so well known and the coaster just feels better themed with the western theme and queue line inside the ride. gwazi just isnt as memorable in the elements and theres less of a cohesive theme. they are both incredible though
I cant wait for arieforce one to open and hear how it stacks up to Gwazi. It looks really really good.
going to Cedar Point to ride Steel Vengeance next year and I will be wearing my Iron Gwazi shirt lol Im stoked
I’ve ridden both. I much prefer Iron Gwazi. Better quality airtime moments, relentless from start to finish, and it’s just so intense.
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I think it’s comes down to preferences. If you prefer a longer ride with lots of airtime, then pick Steel Vengeance. If you prefer a more intense ride that packs a bigger punch, then pick Iron Gwazi. I personally can’t choose, they’re a tie for me!
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LOL nice comment on Maverick that one is wicked fun!!!!