@@dalhousieDream Yeah I found a couple others but idk how much detail there is. I'm going to see what research I can do and figure out if theres enough there to tell a compelling story.
@karlhungus1012, I thought the same thing. Perhaps parties unknown broken into the cabin after he died and moved the "breakfast bar" in front of the hearth to block out the bad smell.
I think he was in the cabin with wet clothes; he took off his clothes so they would dry out and in the process he stepped out for a quick second and the door closed behind him, locking him out. Embarrassed he would be caught naked and not wanting to get in trouble for breaking a window, he climbed into the chimney , where the grate was rusted and easy to pull off. He went head first since when he got to the bottom, he thought he could push the furniture with a push of his hand ( he might have thought it was on wheels) , something he couldn’t do going legs first, and get back in. He miscalculated and either got stuck mid way or couldn’t push the furniture because it was too heavy. Just my thought .
@@TheCellarTrueCrimefor a criminal scenario: S ex lure for robbry: Guy hides in another room and female (known to Maddux) lured Maddux to cabin with promise for sx. Almost ncked, guy comes out of the other room and tells Maddux to hand over wallet and watch, and get into fire place, placing the furniture to block him from leaving to buy them time to flee (they thought he could get out later) unable to get out because the furniture is heavy, Maddux went up, realized he couldn’t make it and either : A: got stuck and the body shifted when the bulldozing began or B: he tried to turn around and got stuck mid chimney. Just a thought.
@TheCellarTrueCrime I don't think it all happened at one time. I think he climbed down the chimney to get into the house. Got stuck and died. In the process of him trying to get out or as he decomposed, he took off his clothes or they fell off. Someone years later squatted at the cabin and found him but didn't want to tell anyone. So they folded his clothing and pushed the breakfast bar up to the fireplace to block the dead body. I don't think everything happened at the time he died.
You are my favorite mystery channel! Keep them coming, please! ❤❤❤ Imo, Josh tried getting into the cabin himself and threw his clothes over the cabinet as he tried to become looser to slip through the chimney. He was in a state of mourning and was not thinking clearly. These chimney cases never end well, sadly. I always wonder if it had been better if Josh and Harley Dilly had broken a window to get into these derelict houses. RIP Josh and Harley. 🌹🌹
Appreciate it! The only issue I have with the clothes is that this breakfast cabinet was supposedly completely blocking the chimney. From my understanding and how's its been reported, no one within the police thinks that he threw them from the chimney. Their explanation is that he took them off inside the cabin, then went outside, climbed the roof, and went down he chimney. To me, it just makes zero sense. Could he have done that? Of course, but logically? For what purpose is what I ask? I can't see a reason to break into a cabin, get naked, and then decide your gonna wedge yourself head first into a chimney that clearly has no way to get out even If you wanted to.
I think a big point people are overlooking in regards to the metal grate over the chimney is that Joshua was human... he could have easily lifted the grate and removed it. A grate to keep animals and debris out, doesn't necessarily keep a human out. Even if it had been installed in a way that made it hard to remove (which I doubt since you need to access a chimney occasionally for cleaning and maintenance), it was decades old at that point and probably rusted.
You have the best intro and voice!! I’m in the library hype! 😂💙 I remember this case. So sad 😞 but something just doesn’t sit right with me. I think there was foul play.
I believe in my opinion that it was a tragic accident and that he was exploring and curious and figured going through the chimney was a great idea. Poor dude RIP.
It's very possible his clothing fell out of the chimney as he decomposed. Someone in the years he was in there came into the cabin, folded the clothing, and pushed the breakfast bar up to the fireplace to block the dead body. Nothing says all that stuff was done at the time he died. He could have also died in the cabin and was pushed up there after he died. There's not just the time he time he doed and the time he was found. There was a lot of time between the two, and all the weird things could have happened between the two.
Didn’t recognize the name,but this story has been told so many times,and nothing have come about, since it was an accidental death! Why did he go through the chimney? Looks like you could easily get in ? That’s the weird question that everyone asks themselves,and every few years or months , another true crime brings it up,as some people still thinks there’s evidence of something other than an accident 🤷♀️
What a sad ending for such a promising young man. I know of a few cases of chimney deaths that were due to positional asphyxia. In any case, my condolences to his family. Thanks for the posting.
Ive been suicidal for decades. Once , in winter, i drank, walked into the forest in the snow, sat down and took my clothes off and started waiting to freeze to death while practically naked. Things didnt end up as was my intention that day. Maybe he wanted to do so, but to hide his own body in the chimney ? Its possible.
You poor thing. What a sad, lonely place to be in, all alone in the freezing cold. The booze would have made it all the worse and you're just lucky you didn't pass out and die from hypothermia! Please reach out for someone to talk to before you ever get so depressed. You deserve to have happiness in your life. We're only on this Earth for but a fleeting moment in the grand scheme of things. We'll be dead for eternity! I wish you peace in your life, maasicas.💓🌺💓
@@Patrick_Bateman11 Yeah theres even more disturbing stories of people found dead in chimneys. They're all bizarre in their own ways. This one I think is the most puzzling though, at least from what ive researched thus far.
I've heard this story a lot and it's the first time I've heard the history of the cabin. Definitely makes it a place a teenager would want to explore. I think he got stuck, took off his clothes to try to free himself. The owner has said he was in and out of the cabin for years and moved things around. He probably picked up the clothes thinking someone who broke in left them, and he probably just set them aside. Or it was the shady friend. There's a lot there with that guy.
Positional asphyxiation could have been the cause this happened to another teenager she got stuck upside down behind a bookshelf and died because she could not get herself upright and then passed out and died of the Positional asphyxia
Same w/the UK rabbit hunter who tied his dog to a tree while he stuck his head down a rabbit hole and jammed himself in such a way that he couldn't get his head back out and sadly succumbed to asphyxia. I'm sure he would have at least been grateful that if not for someone coming across his body (his torso legs & one arm poking out from between his legs, visible) his dog may have not been rescued in time and suffered his own terrible demise, tied to a tree. He'd suffered from addiction and drugs were found in his system. His loved ones were aware of his struggles w/addiction and said he was a loner but they were devastated, no doubt by their loss.
Similar situation to Harley just so sad, ive been following your channel for some time now and its awesome to see how many subs have subscribed to your channel well done congratulations 😊
Yeah it's crazy sometimes to think of how far the channel has come. This time last year the channel was just starting to grow and I thought reaching 1000 and getting monetized was the biggest deal. Flash forward a year later and we broke 25k and continue to keep on growing. Appreciate those of you that have supported all along the way!
@TheCellarTrueCrime that's amazing it's like you blink your eyes an bam lol but yeah good on you an yes I have followed you from the start an can see your progress because its not easy standing out an growing at the same time as theirs so many to compete with in this cut throat world 😁
Ive heard this case before and its one of the most baffling ones. If he was strangled how would the murderer get his body up on the roof? Bodys weigh a lot even using a rope as a pully seems quite unlikely. How would his clothes be where they were and how would the bench get in front of the fireplace. So many questions which leads me to think there was more then one person involved. 😮RIP Joshua. 😢
Yeah based on what we know, I think multiple people being involved could definitely explain a lot of it. It's just baffling all around. Theres evidence to discredit both sides of the coin so to speak.
yeah I just found out a channel I follow has been using AI alot. I was intrigued a bit and looked into it, but I could never see myself not doing the research, the writing, the VoiceOver and editing. Maybe one day I can have someone edit stuff for me, but I am pretty hands on. I know I can improve and will continue to see where I can better my content, but as long as I dont lose my voice, it's always going to be me speaking into a microphone.
@TheCellarTrueCrime just watched it the other day. I'm so behind on my video watching lately. However, your channel is one of my favorites so I try to catch them as soon as I can after I get your post alert.
I immediately had to look up the Harley Dilly case to see where and when exactly it took place. There were way too many similarities. I have to wonder if these children were not on the spectrum. i know that there is this thing about children on the spectrum being drawn to water, but I am wondering if maybe there isn't a draw, for them, to confined spaces. I don't know if that will make sense to everyone but it is something I question as I see more cases of young kids dying because they get trapped in confined dangerous spots.
No one in their right mind would even attempt climbing down any hole head first bcuz u already know you're gonna plunge head first into the bottom... So you're gonna have to use hands and legs, the only thing I can think of is that if the metal grill was in place and he fell in trying to remove it but at the sametime butt naked?
Yeah I mean legit only a shirt on. The naked part is what makes me lean towards foul play. I can’t see myself basically getting naked. And then jumping head first in a chimney
I don't think Joshua's passing was a accident, what sense does it make to take off your pants then go to the other side and go head first into a chimney? Then the whole breakfast thing being moved and then blocking the chimney!
There's no way he put himself in that chimney. Even if he for some reason felt like going head first into a chimney, why were his clothes inside the cabin? I'm pretty sure there was someone else in that cabin.
It appears to me that he started off inside the cabin with someone else and something happened between the 2 and josh had possibly been kickied out of the cabin without his clothes and tried to get back in through the chimney. The person inside the cabin blocked the fireplace are of the chimney just incase josh was able to get all the way through. Unfortunately he got stuck inside the chimney and died and who ever was inside the cabin ran off keeping the secret to themself. This would explain the location of Josh's cloths and the object used to block the fireplace end of the chimney.
Right, that's the only part I couldn't figure out. The other thing is, most chimneys have som sort of metal weather it be bars or a screen at the top to keep things out. How would he have pushed past that.
I definitely think it was maddoxs own doing. Him undressing and climbing through the chimney himself seems more plausible than someone else dragging a body to the roof and stuffing it down a chimney. I don’t think he was forced into the chimney either.
I see what you mean but it’s bizarre that he would get naked except for a shirt, on a cold day, and then exit a cabin he broke into, to then climb the chimney and go down head first? Idk to me it doesn’t seem plausible he did this himself
@@TheCellarTrueCrime maybe he was having a mental break. He could have just been frisky and having a mental episode. I do think it’s strange too. Humans can have strange behaviors. I’m not certain what happened either but I think the rule of “occams razor” would apply to this case. At least for me. Idk
@@TheCellarTrueCrimeIf he went down the chimney head first I don't believe that it would even be possible for his feet to get above his head. It very much does seem like he was wedged up in there from below then the cabinet pushed against the fireplace.
Also another bizarre question. If he did it himself then why strip down inside the house and then go get in the chimney. If someone else did it, why leave evidence at all!? Everything in the case is puzzling
I believe he was there with someone, murdered then stuffed in the chimney to get “rid” of the body. So sad it took this long to find him. Why the cabin was never searched is horrible. RIP Joshua
I think he was forced into the chimney. He had a high IQ, he knew first hand what committing suicide would do to his family & I just don’t see him taking certain items off & climbing head first down a chimney! I feel terrible for his parents & siblings!
Not sure if they did or didn’t. I didn’t see any reports about it so I’m not sure. He was an adult so I get the feeling that the police didn’t take it overly serious right off the bat
@@carloscarrillo6595 I guess in my eyes anywhere a death has happened with no clear answer as to how, becomes a crime scene. It was treated as a crime initially when the body was found. They did an autopsy and tested for drugs etc, so I’d say it was a crime scene.
I'm very curious, about this Andy guy. The fact Josh was dropped down a chimney, head first, with no clothing below the waist, did the autopsy also include a rape kit? Bcz if not, they should! DNA is very useful nowadays. Idk if it's possible to retrieve DNA like that, after all this time, might lead to something, might not. But if they do find something, it could easily solve this case!
I believe his upper body was mummified and his legs were basically nothing but bone left. Not sure if they even could have gotten more then they did from his body
Maybe but there are easier ways to take your life. Stuck in a chimney slowly succumbing to dehydration or hypothermia would not be on my list of ways to leave this world
Your last video on Harley Dilly made me think of this case immediately
Yeah I found this while reaching Harley and was like ok, time to dive down this rabbit hole as well.
@@TheCellarTrueCrime Can you find any other such cases? I have heard of at least one more, but don't remember the names.
@@dalhousieDream Yeah I found a couple others but idk how much detail there is. I'm going to see what research I can do and figure out if theres enough there to tell a compelling story.
Poor Josh, this is so Sad. Sounds like he had help getting down n don't believe it was M8s 😢
@karlhungus1012, I thought the same thing. Perhaps parties unknown broken into the cabin after he died and moved the "breakfast bar" in front of the hearth to block out the bad smell.
I think he was in the cabin with wet clothes; he took off his clothes so they would dry out and in the process he stepped out for a quick second and the door closed behind him, locking him out.
Embarrassed he would be caught naked and not wanting to get in trouble for breaking a window, he climbed into the chimney , where the grate was rusted and easy to pull off.
He went head first since when he got to the bottom, he thought he could push the furniture with a push of his hand ( he might have thought it was on wheels) , something he couldn’t do going legs first, and get back in. He miscalculated and either got stuck mid way or couldn’t push the furniture because it was too heavy. Just my thought .
I think also there may have not been a grate, but the owner said that so the family wouldn’t sue.
I think your break down is the best anyone’s come up with, especially in relation to the idea that he willingly climbed in
Not possible dummy, the chimney had a metal grate cover to prevent small animals from getting in....
@@TheCellarTrueCrimefor a criminal scenario:
S ex lure for robbry:
Guy hides in another room and female (known to Maddux) lured Maddux to cabin with promise for sx. Almost ncked, guy comes out of the other room and tells Maddux to hand over wallet and watch, and get into fire place, placing the furniture to block him from leaving to buy them time to flee (they thought he could get out later) unable to get out because the furniture is heavy, Maddux went up, realized he couldn’t make it and either :
A: got stuck and the body shifted when the bulldozing began or
B: he tried to turn around and got stuck mid chimney.
Just a thought.
@TheCellarTrueCrime I don't think it all happened at one time. I think he climbed down the chimney to get into the house. Got stuck and died. In the process of him trying to get out or as he decomposed, he took off his clothes or they fell off. Someone years later squatted at the cabin and found him but didn't want to tell anyone. So they folded his clothing and pushed the breakfast bar up to the fireplace to block the dead body. I don't think everything happened at the time he died.
You are my favorite mystery channel! Keep them coming, please! ❤❤❤
Imo, Josh tried getting into the cabin himself and threw his clothes over the cabinet as he tried to become looser to slip through the chimney. He was in a state of mourning and was not thinking clearly. These chimney cases never end well, sadly. I always wonder if it had been better if Josh and Harley Dilly had broken a window to get into these derelict houses. RIP Josh and Harley. 🌹🌹
Appreciate it! The only issue I have with the clothes is that this breakfast cabinet was supposedly completely blocking the chimney. From my understanding and how's its been reported, no one within the police thinks that he threw them from the chimney. Their explanation is that he took them off inside the cabin, then went outside, climbed the roof, and went down he chimney. To me, it just makes zero sense. Could he have done that? Of course, but logically? For what purpose is what I ask? I can't see a reason to break into a cabin, get naked, and then decide your gonna wedge yourself head first into a chimney that clearly has no way to get out even If you wanted to.
I think a big point people are overlooking in regards to the metal grate over the chimney is that Joshua was human... he could have easily lifted the grate and removed it.
A grate to keep animals and debris out, doesn't necessarily keep a human out.
Even if it had been installed in a way that made it hard to remove (which I doubt since you need to access a chimney occasionally for cleaning and maintenance), it was decades old at that point and probably rusted.
True very valid point
Thank you, The Cellar.
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You have the best intro and voice!! I’m in the library hype! 😂💙
I remember this case. So sad 😞 but something just doesn’t sit right with me. I think there was foul play.
I lean in that direction also!
And thank you for the kind words!
Keep'um coming.
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Hey hey 👋
RIP Joshua. It's a crazy one. Hard to know what happened. Could have been misadventure or murder. Thank you for your hard work The Cellar 💠
Yeah both are possible both have evidence in favor and against. Puzzling 🧐 to say the least
I believe in my opinion that it was a tragic accident and that he was exploring and curious and figured going through the chimney was a great idea. Poor dude RIP.
Yeah that family has been through a lot
It's very possible his clothing fell out of the chimney as he decomposed. Someone in the years he was in there came into the cabin, folded the clothing, and pushed the breakfast bar up to the fireplace to block the dead body. Nothing says all that stuff was done at the time he died. He could have also died in the cabin and was pushed up there after he died. There's not just the time he time he doed and the time he was found. There was a lot of time between the two, and all the weird things could have happened between the two.
That’s very true, which begs the question… who else was involved?
Didn’t recognize the name,but this story has been told so many times,and nothing have come about, since it was an accidental death! Why did he go through the chimney? Looks like you could easily get in ? That’s the weird question that everyone asks themselves,and every few years or months , another true crime brings it up,as some people still thinks there’s evidence of something other than an accident 🤷♀️
What a sad ending for such a promising young man. I know of a few cases of chimney deaths that were due to positional asphyxia. In any case, my condolences to his family. Thanks for the posting.
Yes, so very sad!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Chuck Murphy is a great name for a builder
It is!
Ive been suicidal for decades. Once , in winter, i drank, walked into the forest in the snow, sat down and took my clothes off and started waiting to freeze to death while practically naked. Things didnt end up as was my intention that day.
Maybe he wanted to do so, but to hide his own body in the chimney ? Its possible.
You poor thing. What a sad, lonely place to be in, all alone in the freezing cold. The booze would have made it all the worse and you're just lucky you didn't pass out and die from hypothermia!
Please reach out for someone to talk to before you ever get so depressed. You deserve to have happiness in your life. We're only on this Earth for but a fleeting moment in the grand scheme of things. We'll be dead for eternity! I wish you peace in your life, maasicas.💓🌺💓
I was busy and I couldn't watch the premiere on time..
The story about Joshua Maddux is very unsettling..
Thanks for sharing, The Cellar..💖
NO worries! Thanks for always watching when you have the time!
I immediately thought of that Harley kid too, is there some serial killer stuffing victims in chimneys!?
Idk 🤷♂️ but there’s a lot of cases involving chimneys out there, and they are all bizarre to say the least
@@TheCellarTrueCrimei keep thinking am i hearing the same story but no this is the 3rd one i heard of crazv creepy
@@Patrick_Bateman11 Yeah theres even more disturbing stories of people found dead in chimneys. They're all bizarre in their own ways. This one I think is the most puzzling though, at least from what ive researched thus far.
@@TheCellarTrueCrime yea it's unsettling to say the least, I'm two weeks into your channel binging! Love it thanks for responding so 😎 cool
Maybe it's the smiley face killer
I've heard this story a lot and it's the first time I've heard the history of the cabin. Definitely makes it a place a teenager would want to explore. I think he got stuck, took off his clothes to try to free himself. The owner has said he was in and out of the cabin for years and moved things around. He probably picked up the clothes thinking someone who broke in left them, and he probably just set them aside. Or it was the shady friend. There's a lot there with that guy.
All good points!
Thanks!
Thank you 🙏
RIP Joshua.🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
RIP Joshua, Condolences to the Maddux family
Positional asphyxiation could have been the cause this happened to another teenager she got stuck upside down behind a bookshelf and died because she could not get herself upright and then passed out and died of the Positional asphyxia
Same w/the UK rabbit hunter who tied his dog to a tree while he stuck his head down a rabbit hole and jammed himself in such a way that he couldn't get his head back out and sadly succumbed to asphyxia.
I'm sure he would have at least been grateful that if not for someone coming across his body (his torso legs & one arm poking out from between his legs, visible) his dog may have not been rescued in time and suffered his own terrible demise, tied to a tree.
He'd suffered from addiction and drugs were found in his system. His loved ones were aware of his struggles w/addiction and said he was a loner but they were devastated, no doubt by their loss.
Similar situation to Harley just so sad, ive been following your channel for some time now and its awesome to see how many subs have subscribed to your channel well done congratulations 😊
Yeah it's crazy sometimes to think of how far the channel has come. This time last year the channel was just starting to grow and I thought reaching 1000 and getting monetized was the biggest deal. Flash forward a year later and we broke 25k and continue to keep on growing. Appreciate those of you that have supported all along the way!
@TheCellarTrueCrime that's amazing it's like you blink your eyes an bam lol but yeah good on you an yes I have followed you from the start an can see your progress because its not easy standing out an growing at the same time as theirs so many to compete with in this cut throat world 😁
I feel so bad for that family😞
Definitely don't believe he put himself in that chimney from above or below. May he rest in peace 🕊️🕊️🕊️
Why not
That just doesnt sound like a self delete..
Good story!!
Glad you liked it! Thanks for listening!
Ive heard this case before and its one of the most baffling ones. If he was strangled how would the murderer get his body up on the roof? Bodys weigh a lot even using a rope as a pully seems quite unlikely. How would his clothes be where they were and how would the bench get in front of the fireplace. So many questions which leads me to think there was more then one person involved. 😮RIP Joshua. 😢
Yeah based on what we know, I think multiple people being involved could definitely explain a lot of it. It's just baffling all around. Theres evidence to discredit both sides of the coin so to speak.
Love this channel. Been a sub awhile and it’s incredible. Cant believe how lazy alot of the competitors AI channels are. Its an epidemic
yeah I just found out a channel I follow has been using AI alot. I was intrigued a bit and looked into it, but I could never see myself not doing the research, the writing, the VoiceOver and editing. Maybe one day I can have someone edit stuff for me, but I am pretty hands on. I know I can improve and will continue to see where I can better my content, but as long as I dont lose my voice, it's always going to be me speaking into a microphone.
Please never stop doing what you do. I think that you are the best and would read or listen to anything you created!@@TheCellarTrueCrime0:09
Reminds me of the Harley Dilly case. Somethings really off about that one too.
I just covered that case a couple days ago if you want to see my deep dive into it. Title is horrible fates trapped and alone
@TheCellarTrueCrime just watched it the other day. I'm so behind on my video watching lately.
However, your channel is one of my favorites so I try to catch them as soon as I can after I get your post alert.
Wow. sad story.😥
Yeah that family went throigh a lot losing there two boys
😢💔 horrible
Poor family losing both sons the way they did
I immediately had to look up the Harley Dilly case to see where and when exactly it took place. There were way too many similarities. I have to wonder if these children were not on the spectrum. i know that there is this thing about children on the spectrum being drawn to water, but I am wondering if maybe there isn't a draw, for them, to confined spaces. I don't know if that will make sense to everyone but it is something I question as I see more cases of young kids dying because they get trapped in confined dangerous spots.
That’s an interesting point I think that’s worth looking into
I've known about this story for a while, I have always believed that Josh was murdered. God rest his soul.❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Yeah that’s my thought as well
Thank you for going down the Reddit rabbit hole. That’s the theory that is believable. Either way he wasn’t alone that day
Agreed I don’t think he was alone at all
He didn’t do it t himself. They need to Investigate this more
Agree 100%
No one in their right mind would even attempt climbing down any hole head first bcuz u already know you're gonna plunge head first into the bottom... So you're gonna have to use hands and legs, the only thing I can think of is that if the metal grill was in place and he fell in trying to remove it but at the sametime butt naked?
Yeah I mean legit only a shirt on. The naked part is what makes me lean towards foul play. I can’t see myself basically getting naked. And then jumping head first in a chimney
I don't think Joshua's passing was a accident, what sense does it make to take off your pants then go to the other side and go head first into a chimney? Then the whole breakfast thing being moved and then blocking the chimney!
Agreed there’s too many bizarre questions with little to no answers
There's no way he put himself in that chimney. Even if he for some reason felt like going head first into a chimney, why were his clothes inside the cabin? I'm pretty sure there was someone else in that cabin.
That’s my thoughts as well, it’s just too bizarre to think he just up and did it himself. I’m my opinion
He locked himself out by my stake
I’m from the Asheville area. Where are you from ?
Originally upstate NY, but me and the family moved to Durham NC.
It appears to me that he started off inside the cabin with someone else and something happened between the 2 and josh had possibly been kickied out of the cabin without his clothes and tried to get back in through the chimney. The person inside the cabin blocked the fireplace are of the chimney just incase josh was able to get all the way through. Unfortunately he got stuck inside the chimney and died and who ever was inside the cabin ran off keeping the secret to themself. This would explain the location of Josh's cloths and the object used to block the fireplace end of the chimney.
@@David-tn1wj pretty good but why go in head first unless he slipped being cold and dark out
Right, that's the only part I couldn't figure out. The other thing is, most chimneys have som sort of metal weather it be bars or a screen at the top to keep things out. How would he have pushed past that.
Positional asphyxiation wasn't he found in the chimney or maybe I misunderstood
He was and they believe the way he was wedged in there caused positional asphyxiation. That’s according to what the police reported
I definitely think it was maddoxs own doing. Him undressing and climbing through the chimney himself seems more plausible than someone else dragging a body to the roof and stuffing it down a chimney. I don’t think he was forced into the chimney either.
I see what you mean but it’s bizarre that he would get naked except for a shirt, on a cold day, and then exit a cabin he broke into, to then climb the chimney and go down head first? Idk to me it doesn’t seem plausible he did this himself
@@TheCellarTrueCrime maybe he was having a mental break. He could have just been frisky and having a mental episode. I do think it’s strange too. Humans can have strange behaviors. I’m not certain what happened either but I think the rule of “occams razor” would apply to this case. At least for me. Idk
@@TheCellarTrueCrime thanks for the work you do thought btw and replying
@@TheCellarTrueCrimeIf he went down the chimney head first I don't believe that it would even be possible for his feet to get above his head. It very much does seem like he was wedged up in there from below then the cabinet pushed against the fireplace.
@@burkluca7738 of course! Everyone’s entitled to there thoughts. I can see this case going either way in the end. Just wish there were more answers
Got to swerve this one sadly as listened to his case many times. 🖤
No worries!
It's pretty obvious that is was foul play. Question is, why would someone who removed his clothes leave them there?
Also another bizarre question. If he did it himself then why strip down inside the house and then go get in the chimney. If someone else did it, why leave evidence at all!? Everything in the case is puzzling
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Reminds me of Harley Dilly.
Yeah I found this case while researching Harley’s case which I just covered a couple days ago!
I believe he was there with someone, murdered then stuffed in the chimney to get “rid” of the body. So sad it took this long to find him. Why the cabin was never searched is horrible. RIP Joshua
I tend to lean in that direction as well
I think he was forced into the chimney. He had a high IQ, he knew first hand what committing suicide would do to his family & I just don’t see him taking certain items off & climbing head first down a chimney! I feel terrible for his parents & siblings!
All good points and I lean in this direction as well. 100%
When he first went missing why didn’t they use dogs to track him?
Not sure if they did or didn’t. I didn’t see any reports about it so I’m not sure. He was an adult so I get the feeling that the police didn’t take it overly serious right off the bat
Definitely foul play
I tend to agree
Definitely foul play but who? And if it was attempted suicide, he might have regretted but it was to late.
Yeah I lean towards foul play myself
@@TheCellarTrueCrime I'm thinking either or. Happy Thursday from Corpus Christi Texas!
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Joshua was highly intelligent. Sadly I think he was attacked. Body thrown down the chimney.
I tend to lean somewhere in this direction as well
He definitely had some help getting into that chimney.
I feel that way as well
Someone put him there, but he was definitely killed. 💯🙏💔
I tend to lean that way as well
What happen today
Why do you refer to the chimney as the "crime scene" if no crime was committed..?
@@carloscarrillo6595 I guess in my eyes anywhere a death has happened with no clear answer as to how, becomes a crime scene. It was treated as a crime initially when the body was found. They did an autopsy and tested for drugs etc, so I’d say it was a crime scene.
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He was forced in there. No doubt in my mind.
I’m leaning in that direction as well
He was killed
I lean that way as well
I'm very curious, about this Andy guy. The fact Josh was dropped down a chimney, head first, with no clothing below the waist, did the autopsy also include a rape kit? Bcz if not, they should! DNA is very useful nowadays. Idk if it's possible to retrieve DNA like that, after all this time, might lead to something, might not. But if they do find something, it could easily solve this case!
I believe his upper body was mummified and his legs were basically nothing but bone left. Not sure if they even could have gotten more then they did from his body
I think Josh was on drugs or had mental problems
Maybe but they didn’t find drugs in his system, he may have been struggling mentally but what happened still seems puzzling to me at least
The video states that the autopsy report showed no evidence of drug use
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😮😮 elder brother killed himself, maybe Josh did as well😮
Maybe but there are easier ways to take your life. Stuck in a chimney slowly succumbing to dehydration or hypothermia would not be on my list of ways to leave this world
Sexual assault and murder
Sounds like a dork
Young kid finding his place in the world
Why did his brother kill himself?
Not sure 🤔
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Just saw it, thank you!