Anybody else find this video because they imagined a similar design themselves, and started wondering/asking people why they've never heard of this as an option?! The potential uses seem impressive; electricity, house/shop heat, pool/hottub/sauna heat... Comfortable off grid living if you ask me! With the high efficiency wood burning technology of some stoves today, and the availability of the electronics necessary to make a system like this more "user friendly", I'm surprised there's not a more established market for this type of thing. Enjoyed your video, thanks!
Wood has 4 times as much heat as any other fuel. It heats you when you cut it, heats you when you split it, it heats you when you stack it, it heats you when you burn it :). It takes work to be energy independent, people are spoiled and lazy.
Yas just the same thing here I'm building the same type of system only smaller for a backup for my solar system, I'm planning to use a wood gasifier as the main power source
This is great, the only problem is it is the same as a coal burning plant witch were trying to stray from, due to co/co2 emissions, renewable is the best way, although costly to start, even cheaper in the long run due to not needing wood/coal fuel, batterys help, cost of lead/lithium is too high tho, an if everyone does this, everything will crash
@@99-white-balloons I don't buy wood I've cut my own and heated with wood for over 40 years, in some places dead trees are forest fire tinder if they are not cleared and burned for heat and energy in a stove with a chimney.
As a retired Wood Cutter, I agree with you on the need for both the solar and the wood, not only for true diversity, but also... Because every solar panel we buy and install is cords and cords of wood we do not need to cut. "SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!"
I once applied for a grant to use this type of device to control dead trees and forest fire tinder in areas the need to reduce the chances of forest fires. Global warming is killing much of the world's boreal forests and it would be better to burn the dead diseased trees to make heat and electricity rather than let them become forest fire fuel. IMHO
@@localideasinc Yeah, but raking the forests is a pretty big task. We'd be better off just bringing the Beavers back, and making it a capital crime to interfere with one.
@@TimeSurfer206I never said anything about raking the forests, I'm not a Trumpanzee, we can use wind blow down and diseased trees to lessen forest fire hazard in rural residential areas without disturbing unpopulated woodlands.
It is not only the government that hates this, their corporate monetary system monopolizing weapons dealing war profiteering masters they gave an unconstitutional private monopoly over our monetary system to in 1913 hates everything I do. If you worked for $5000 an hour for 500 years without missing a single day of work you would not quite earn a billion dollars. Yet Muskrat pocketed over 200 billion for rockets that blow up, self driving cars that crash, very boring pipe dream tunnel company. Many others have decent inventions and designs that could help humanity but privileged prima donna sub human top feeder parasites own and rule the planet.
I’m sorry to see so many giving you a hard time over the things they don’t see in the video. Your an Inspiration. Well made and looks like it works great. I hope it’s still running strong and making juice.
Well it is just sitting there with the boiler filled with anti-freeze ready to be used. I'm not living there presently but I still own it and have access to it. I may get over there and fire it up in the fall. Our human species is very diverse. Some of us fit into the sentient sapient part of the bell curve of life and some don't. Thank you for commenting, gooday eh K
@@localideasinc I wander if I could ask where you based your primary engine design from? I’m looking to build something and you indicated in your video that you were happy with its Proformance. I have a knee mill and lathe so fabrication shouldn’t be an issue. I hear my house with a out door wood boiler and plan to fabricate a stainless tube type boiler that will mount on the stack. Should help produce a reasonable head pressure.
@@Red9GearHeads I'm a bit confused as to what you mean by a primary engine, so I looked up this: www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/primary-engine The primary energy source is wood fire. I'm assuming you mean the steam turbine? Maybe on this video as well as a few others I say things or give hints. It is a hybrid and I'm not going to give away any more information on it. I built four different turbine designs and several piston steam engines and spent a lot of time and money to get to this point with little or no help. I recently uploaded a video of an electric bike I designed and built in 2003 about the same time Segway and his money monopolizing wankers had millions to spend so having a lot of money does not necessarily mean the inbreed pompous fools can engineer themselves out of a paper bag. Good luck, I think wood, steam, heat and electricity will back up solar and wind in heavily wooded areas but I have been cheated so many times I'm not giving my work away for free, Gooday Eh K
@@localideasinc Fair enough! I can certainly understand how you would be reluctant to share hard earned knowledge on your working design. I also agree that simple well though out bench top engineering often beats cubicles full of collage trained box minded engineers. For the record I wasn’t expecting you to hand over detailed drawings of your design as much as any nuggets of wisdom I could use in my own goal to create some usable power from my wasted heat. Best of luck in your endeavors
Wow this is Awsome! Exactly what I was picturing in my mind when trying to see if anyone has done it before. I want blueprints or more in-depth vid explaining everything
Thanks, the boiler is a water tube boiler and the turbine may be an original design so is proprietary until I would get a patent or find out that it is already in the public domain. This project was expensive for me and a lot of work I'm not going to give it away, I relatively poor, some of my ideas were already stolen and those people are now millionaires. Somewhere I have some photos of the boiler construction I might try and make a video discussing that and showing it. I still think that this energy bootlegger(tm) power house could be useful in heavily wooded areas. Trees get diseased and blown down by strong winds and become forest fire tinder and it is environmentally a good idea to keep this fuel at a minimum in rural residential areas. Burning wood make heat and electricity is not a solve all energy solution but is a good addition to our energy mix. Thanks again K.
There is something magical about steam, the smell, the look and the amazing things you can do with it, Co generation is a fantastic idea especially if you can get the magic three which are electricity, heating hot water and domestic hot water, there's even the possibility of using the last bit of heat to heat a greenhouse during winter. I am about to setup a system like this myself, I have purchased a 10Hp boiler which is in excellent condition along with two reciprocating steam engines, a Tangye and a Soho and I also have a small steam turbine to experiment with, one of the engines I plan to have running a power shaft through the shed to power the pedestal drill, wood working machines etc.
I have a much smaller set up. For my turbine I use an Ingersoll Rand 1/2" pneumatic air drill with a half coupling to a small 12 volt car alternator. Powered by an old air compressor tank with gauges and a firebox under it. It charges two deep cycle marine batteries.
looks like I'm not the only one who thought of this I was going to make something small to start out with I'm in a shelter I'm just started being off grid had enough with the system absolutely sickened by the way things are run in this country and all others pretty much great job by the way I knew someone else would have thought of this simple idea
I grew up in Bruce crossing Mi. around same time period, we manufactured wood fired boilers & sauna & wood fired furnaces there. Anyhoo your concept seems simplified compared to a huge steam engine,I'm amazed that little turbine dose all that work! cool
I went to Michigan Tech in the '80s, I'm living in Houghton with my girlfriend now, my steam engine is down in Wisconsin with anti-freeze in the boiler sort of on moth balls.
Great ideas. I would like to talk to you about a wood-based electrical generation solution, and if I understand it correctly, your comments below are saying you may build them?
That was several years ago, I am not living where the system is and will soon need a place to move it all. I'm 66 a year ago I was almost assassinated February 26, 2022, lowered my Piss and VIngar level. I would have loved to have a company building and selling similar units I believe in it. I'm totally let down and POed about humanity and the US. Anyway thank you for your interest.
Great work. You posted this in 2016! I only started thinking about steam generated off-grid power in 2021. We now have supply chain problems which millions of people are dependent on. You have helped make it clear that the private household does not have to be 'tethered' to a power grid. I like the way you have designed a way to draw water into the boiler. I was wondering if a voltage regulator should be added to the system.
There is a governor on it. The cogen' system is currently mothballed. As usefull as the energy bootlegger or power house as I call it is, I have come to the determination that in most places including the Northwoods, super insulated ultra-modern living structure architectural design is key to living comfortably and using less energy. Substandard housing inefficient high energy consuming housing throughout the US while the ultra-rich build cock rockets and have wet dreams of going to Mars while letting the masses on Earth deplete and pollute resources killing the planet is where the money is at proving we being lead to hell and self inflicted extinction by prima donna Mammon worshipers. I've been writing about ultimate democracy, decentralized horizontal organization lately. We have allowed those who believe in infinite human economic growth to lead us on a finite planet for far too long. Thank you for the comment have a great day eh K: wethepeoplerule.net/the-west-manuscript/
Thanks David, the boiler and turbine are just sitting there with RV antifreeze in the boiler. I hope to get back there and improve some automated control and run it a bit. Sometimes I feel like why did I bother? If I was in the right caste I could have built a useless Segway or a Cock Rocket and been a lucrative failure.
Well if I'm production welding I hook up to the grid but yes the welding being done in the video is coming off the inverter and the batteries charged from the wood boiler steam powered generator. I tested it this last summer and it still works. Thanks for the comment Z'
If you are using the system for off grid energy you are going to want batteries, in the first part of the video with the batteries in the circuit I show that the battery voltage rises with the generator hooked to them, then I switched over to the vane motor and different generator that was not hooked up to the batteries at about 11:20 into the video so the grinder and lights are running directly off of that generator like you ask. This is not some lying wonky perpetual motion over unity bull vagina hoaxer video like the ones goofs watch with over a million views, this is real, if you don't believe me that is your prerogative. Thanks for the comment, sorry if you were not suggesting that this is all fake because of the batteries being in the circuit of the first part of the video. Gooday Eh K
I'm ordering a cnc turbine for my steam setup soon, but I wanted to incorporate a wood gasification unit to the heat source for the boiler, and along with wood gas I should end up with a good amount of charcoal, that will make a decent heat source itself. But I wonder how many acres of trees it would take to keep up a renewable source of lumber for years to come?
A smokeless wood stove could be accomplished with rocket stove technology. Rocket stoves have tall combustion chambers allowing air, which enters at the bottom, more time to burn the wood more completely. I personally think even a 6 volt or a 12 volt turbine would be enough to charge a bank of lithium batteries for cordless appliances. It wouldn't be enough for an electric car.
Got an idea for something like this but instead using gas heating through methane by a waste system. Compost, heat, and electricity. Course, this is just one of many ways. I very much like contingencies. Hydroelectric will be my main focus.
Is this you? facebook.com/winter.lovelace If so you are both gorgeous and I love that you think about alternate ways of making and using energy. I imagine we could talk for many hours. Gooday eh (from a northerner) and have a Happy New Year.
Well the Sauna part of the video received the most hateful comments, it was supposed to be funny and show besides all the other stuff it does, it doubles as a sauna.
RUclips Algorithm is corrupt. It took bloody mayhem in Wisconsin for *this* gem to appear in my metered *feed*! Have I not been seeking off-grid power generation for years?
Thanks, this system I built years ago already still works. The turbine design solves a lot of problems and is sort of proprietary so I don't explain the entire workings of that, but yes a small wood/steam combined heat and electricity system to be used when the wind is not blowing and the sun is not shining makes everything work. You are so right, I have seen so many perpetual motion scammers get millions of hits while my stuff that actually does what it says and shows remains undiscovered. Thanks again, K
This is way cool I’m glad there is someone out there that’s built and tested something like this.. how about if you put a steam room in your garage/shop, then use some of the excess steam/pressure to get a good steam during the winter? Start of the video it looked very cold and hearing as you sound like you’re from the great north, winters are long and cold.
Quite ingenious! I sure hope you have a couple of good relief valves in your system; steam is potentially dangerous and your life depends on those safeties. Great old-fashioned home-grown ingenuity.
Ah, yes I have relief valves, pressure gauges and water level sight glass. It is a water tube boiler which is safer by design if all other safety measures were to fail. I once took a fire safety class to help with a bad fire season, it rained and the fires went out the very night after I passed the class and was ready to go to work. Gas and other fuel prices remain relatively low compared to when I decided to dedicate much of my energy to off grind and alternative energy and transportation projects. It went from something I thought I could help save the world at and make a good living to an expensive hobby. Gooday Eh.
It would be cool to get a three phase motor up to a steam turbine. It might require a bit of todo and power electronics, but assuming you could design a control system to regulate steam pressure and figure out how to manage load you could potentially try to sync the frequency.
None that I know of, I have designed many things that work while the investment money goes to pipe dreams like Segway and cock rockets such is the monetary system monopolizing weapons dealing war profiteering dominated world, gooday eh K
I grew up in da UP eh, now I'm in MN. we have lots of wood! I like your system " I want to manufacture my little pulse jet engine design, & your power system is one of the most intriguing concept I've seen. makes sense " I want one! Will have to keep ya list of things to perhaps invest in your system,. I need to sell my jets 1st so I can afford anything @ moment " :/ mabey trade jets for alternative energy parts? Lol
I lived in the UP out of Houghton and then Baraga from 1984 to 1997. I built this Combined heat and electricity system because I always wanted one for myself but also with the thought of manufacturing and marketing them. I have some automation like the governor and circulation pump but feel it is still quite a lot of work to run yet. It could be useful for off grid secluded places in AK and Canada beyond the power lines. The boiler should probably be a couple thousand or better and the turbine a thousand I tested and ran it outside for a few years but the system should really be in a sauna shack like it is now so there is a thou' or so more plus the heat exchanger on and on, batteries and inverter another thou' so it is probably a 5 to 10 thousand dollar set up if I were to try manufacture sell and install them. Price a central outdoor low or no pressure wood stove so yeah..
FYI the creator answered a question from a commenter about some tech details on the Green steam engine TedX video. "The generator is just a tread mill permanent magnet DC motor and I run a 24V system and I run at about 150 psi. steam pressure. Thanks for asking." TedX is here ruclips.net/video/SbgwDk7A4as/видео.html
You've done a tremendous job there. How does your turbine not require lubrication? What kind of rpm's does it run? I live down south in SC. We have a thriving pulp wood industry here. Mainly pine. It would burn really dirty, but could be done cheaply. I've been thinking of other things like this also. I'm trying to figure out the needed output of a solar steam type generator (array type, solar collector) to run a small turbine. I was thinking of building my own turbine with air bearings to remove the oil that's necessary for lubrication and cooling. I'd also like my turbine/generator slightly over powered to run an air compressor, firstly for night time and clouded conditions when the solar array would be down or under producing, but also for the bearings. Instead of a battery bank, which requires heavy metals and dangerous chemicals, plus replacement every 5 to 7 years. I'd store air pressure in a holding tank to run the turbine, and offset low or no steam production times with air. I'd probably still set up an emergency wood fired boiler just in case of long term maintenance problems. I think your system is one of the few serious set ups I've seen. Very nice indeed. Thanks for the video...
Hi, very good video I like this I have thought about steam generators before but just could not find the right turbine I am working on a home generator setup now my self, and what I need to know is how you did the electrical output side of your generator like how you converted the DC voltage to AC voltage this is the trouble I am having with my setup.
@@wiscokiddd ok, could you tell me more about how you did it and what parts like the diodes and show how you hooked it all up please thank you, Steven.
The diode keeps the generator from backfeeding and working like a motor it has to be good for the voltage and the amperage of load I the think the electricity you will put out a small system will only require a smaller diode 100 amp diodes are cheep enough on ebay. My system only does about 1 hp or 746 watts so you divide it by like 24 volts giving 31 amps. Any way I'm busy gotta go thanks for the view and the question good luck peace out k
I was able to view the tool use in the machine shop. Does your lathe operate directly off the inverter output of 120 or 240 v single phase...? It may make better sense to convert to a DC motor and operate directly off the battery bank.
I still had the old thermaldepolymerization vessel in the boiler firebox when I did that video. SInce then I took that out and added almost another cubic foot to the steam vessel volume and I have a 250 psi relief valve so I can run a little hotter. So yeah it is not a great deal of electricity but it adds up and the heat through them old car radiators is a bonus in the winter, if I had more money I'd have a place designed for the bootlegger to do all the heat, hot water and off grid backup for wind and solar, I also have worked on making Air Conditioning with it believe it or not. Thanks for the comment gooday eh.
The last time I visited Hayward California was in 1999, nicer than here in the winter for sure, for a very populated area I still love the Bay Area and it is very beautiful, I sub'ed !
Hi Kenny, thanks for your great home video it's really interesting and fun. I would like to ask you about your home made steam turbine. Do you have any plans or would you share your design with other like-minded folk? I am also looking at a gasifier system for running a generator as it is easier to build but I like your system.
Well this design was my 5th micro-turbine prototype the specifics are proprietary because I cannot afford to patent or trademark the design. Simultaneously everyone wants my work for free and at the same time the monetary system monopolizing weapons dealing war profiteering class spends 100s of billions of dollars supporting their elite privileged bezo musk lords that use the money to build yachts and cock rockets. Thank you for your interest in my work that turned out to be a very expensive hobby instead of becoming profitable means to help us all lead richer more environmentally sustainable lives.
@@localideasinc Okay Kenny, thanks for your reply and I am sorry that you must have spent many hours perfecting your design to arrive at an efficient unit. Unfortunately this is where Stanley Myers ended up when the men in black turned up at his door. The powerful people in the higher echelons don't want the good ideas to get out in case they might damage the healthy profits that they already enjoy and of course the petrol companies are making sure the government get their revenue. So I guess your design will remain shelved until the world runs out of crude oil. It would seem only just if you could patent your design or find a backer to help you achieve this. The whole system is flawed and corrupted without doubt.
@@localideasinc what would it cost to patent it? I would be interested in helping to do the research to produce proof of it being a unique design that I know is necessary if that is part of your difficulties. After signing a confidentiality and nondisclosure agreement of course...
@@jrbear1554 I'm thinking you are from the USA but what state? I'm from Wisconsin buy currently in the UP of Mich'. I applied for several patents but it is a rich man's game. I like that you realize the confidentiality and nondisclosure issues. If I would have a magical time reversing do over I would not have applied for utility patents and applied for design patents instead. On to the turbine I think it is still one of the best most efficient micro turbine designs out there. I have several channels on youtube. I am also into politics, activism and advocacy and have had accounts and email accounts permanently suspended for speaking out against war and corporate greed. That is why I have many emails. My name is Ken and here is one of my emails so we can discuss the patent-ability, non disclosure etc. at_lib@hotmail.com
No I don't know of anyone anywhere that sells micro boilers and turbines, that is why I built this system. I applied for a grant from the US National forest in March of 2012 to help control dead and diseased trees, also known to be forest fire tinder. They gave the grant to somebody in conventional logging for tree processing equipment. There is obviously more money in it for the moneyed class to just let everything burn own in the dry seasons. If you are rich and have an idea for a new type of Segway you will get 10s of millions in seed money but a poor man is meant to be a wage slave and better know that. I wish I could help you, let me know if you find someone :(
What metal do you use for the turbine ? How many blades it has ? What pressure the steam has going into the turbine ? Could you plz give me the dimensions of the turbine ?
I hope you are kidding? When you finally design or invent something, please contact me and give me all the dimensions and particulars of the design for free, thank you.
@@tobiaskarl4939 I put this channel up to try and attract investors, I have built many prototypes, applied for patents; nobody is interested, the elite uber wealthy have no desire to improve our lives or save the planet, they invest in psychopath Musk's plan to go to Mars and Bezos Cock-Rockets. I used just just regular schedule 40 steel for the prototype, if mass produced it would require stainless steel or some other non-rusting metal. the prototype still runs but I only use it for experiments and the demonstration videos. I built an electric battery powered bike that worked great back in 2003 when stupid Segway was attracting millions from investors. The moneyed people are just that, no intelligence no morals just elite creepy slime monetary system monopolizing weapons dealing war profiteering inbred unconstitutional nobility instead of leaders willing to improve the quality of human life within the limits of and respecting the natural biosphere.
Thank you for making the case for wood fired boilers and cogen. My off grid slow band width prevented me from getting specs on your turbine and I think it was a DC motor used as a DC generator. What is the motor hp rating and voltage...?? What RPM are you spinning the motor at? Are you using a PVM controller and are used wood burning boilers easily obtained? This is really an exciting topic.
it is a 90v at 7100 rpm permanent magnet motor and when I'm charging it is about 28 volts, it has been a couple years since I put a tach' on it, I think by memory it was running like 3200, I'm not positive, the next time I run it I'll get some batteries in the cheap tachometer and check it again. I have an arduino governor. Thank you for your interest, I'm sure others are doing similar things but I have not seen another complete working micro wood steam electricity heat system up and running on youtube. Fake perpetual motion free energy videos get millions of views, I just do what I do, it is not fake, it is not really turn key, I have to watch it. I have gotten distracted and had the relief valve pop off, I have it piped outside now so it does no real harm. Gooday Eh K (opps I'm not signed in as local ideas or wiscokidd my main channels)
Hi @@kendriessen9538, I took that concept (had been thinking about it before) and placed a 1hp 90vdc motor as a generator behind a lombardini diesel with a PVM controller. I'm guessing the RPM to be about 800-1,000 and voltage output was close to 75Volts. With the 48V bank I was seeing 18-20 AMPS. This is a pulley about 1 to 1 drive. Goal was to direct charge the bank without going thru a 48v battery charger. I like the concept so well I'll be building another with a yanmar I have. I tested a 180v motor but the 90V is less losses. I can share pictures if interested.
@@kendriessen9538 well you inspired me...! I checked my bomb hoist off a destroyer....and it has several air motors...! I'm going to turn them with steam and maybe an oil mist...! Hook them up with joy couplings and let er rip...! I tried sending pics but it was just crickets from your email...?
Another nugget....I have two large propane tanks....one can be a water/steam vessel and the other a lower cut down fire box........I tried using a firebox boiler insert but it does poorly on HEAT transfer.....
There are quite a few different solar boilers out there already in fact I applied for a patent on one in the '90s myself: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentrated_solar_power
As far as I know I may be able to apply for a kind of a patent so that is proprietary information yet. That is why I have not answered your question, thanks for asking, I hardly use this channel, hope to get back to it with some new prototypes, K.
i love your independence. As for the use of wood. have you looked at comparing if it would be more effective to use the wood in a wood gasifier and then run a generator from that woodgas or use the steam like you do. I feels to me that producing some sort of gas like biogas or woodgas has many more practical advantages fro storing and using on demand vs steam where one would have to make use of the waste heat to keep it efficient. have you looked into this?
You must not be in the USA, besides that your comments come up as spam and I have to okay them, you don't seem like a spammer. Yes I experimented with woodgas quite a bit and even made a truck run on stored woodgas for a little bit. I like the wood/steam/electricity and heat better, it gets like minus 30 C deg here in the winter so the heat is used. Some of that work is on this channel and some is on one of my other channels ruclips.net/user/wiscokiddd Thanks again.
Thank you, yes, I am in Switzerland but I lived in the US for 14 years till 2010-11 I figured you liked steam better for some reason, and I can see that. Once we have something that works and the maintenance and running is manageable, why change. Will keep watching your channel. do you have a build video for your steam turbines?
I have a sawmill and get a lot of waste . I have 2 kw of solar I have been wanting a steam engine why did you go the turbin way instead of a steam engine? were did you git the boiler
The turbine has required no lubrication or maintenance whatsoever for several years, I have built and modified several piston engines and run them. When you first start a steam engine by turning on a steam valve and feeding steam to the engine, it will condense in it until the engine warms up. So if you can imagine a piston pushing against water it will bring the engine to an abrupt stop. That is why they have those little valves that let the water out that you close after it warms up. A simple turbine or my proprietary design can push the water through and start up without any procedures. I designed and built the boiler myself, I studied state and federal regulations. I don't know where you live, I'm in Northern Wisconsin and even with this wonderful global warming it is 15 deg f and was zero last night so besides generating electricity the heat is very welcome and useful. If you are down south let the wood rot and buy more solar collectors is my advice unless you figure out the mosquito coast set up... gooday eh
I wonder if a Stirling cycle cryogenic cooler could turn air into liquid that filled a tank with a bell siphon that filled a Joe cell that produced hydrogen has the liquid air boiled off back into vapor to operate a combustion engine to operate an electrical generator?
Wasting condensate? I'm not sure but I think you are trying to talk smart, I run the generator off the steam and then it goes though a radiator in the garage where it condenses back into water. I don't necessarily put that water back into the boiler but wasting as if the water run through the system is magic condensate and it is somehow going to waste is not something I worry about. I could put the water back in yeah. thanks for the question.
@@larryboy4905 My point is there really is not much to reuse, I have a plastic hospital size square wash pan where the condensed water goes when I run the system. If I used it full time I could take that water and inject it back into the boiler if I chose to or when it is not running I could pour it back in through the fill pipe.
WOW!!! I want one. When can we get started? I have been wanting to build a water wheel, but I have too much ice on the river when I need electricity the most. This looks like a great year round solution. If you don't mind me asking , how much wood do you use in an average day?
Yes it does, now if I could just get some relief from commenters that probably never worked in at a coal fired steam electricity generation plant, went to engineering school or built an off grid wood fired combined heat and electricity system. Thank you for the comment though, gooday eh k.
Thanks for commenting, burnt garbage and got a head of steam a couple times this summer but don't use it much then, almost looking forward to winter to use the boiler and turbine again.
Awesome set up! There is also thermal electric generating elements/plates that you can buy to improve your electric input. Also did you not use galvanized steel for its poisonous gas when you get it hot? Again thats is just a sweet system!
Most of the pipe is not galvanized but yes I am aware that welding galvanized pipe produced poisonous gas. Have you ever messed with thermal electric elements such as in the eco-fans you set on top of a wood stove or priced them anywhere? To buy enough of those thermoelectric generator cells to make one 10th of the electricity I produce would cost more than the whole project. A small improvement on the turbine or the boiler would be more cost effective than thermoelectric generation at this point. Thank you for the complement and creative criticism, this reply is from one of my other channels, Local Ideas is also my and my friend's channel, gooday eh
Very interesting. Could you please answer a few questions please? First one is I note that you were reading on the voltmeter nearly 24 volts, I take it you are running two large 12 volt batteries in series or a big lorry 24 volt battery? Second question is, you say you are not using an adapter to go through an inverter but you were using a grinder and a lathe which I guess are single phase 220volt. How did you do this? Third question is you say you made the biker yourself. I did not know boiler grade plate was still being manufacturered in U.S.A., I thought it is now only made in Germany but I may be wrong. What gauage and grade of steel did you use and how many tubes in the boiler?
Did you everything of gasification.. you use the syn gas as natural gas. You could use on demand or compress it. You run the system gas As heat you can run a generator, off it your can make charcoal to as byproduct to run at later tomorrow you make domestic hot water you store the thermal enter into sand battery months at a time. You can store heat over 700c and us as steam if you like. It's cheap and requires no maintance and last a life time and it dirt cheap to build and operate. You can run modified vechical to run off wood gas.
I designed and built it, it is proprietary and probably patentable, many people want me to give them the plans but it cost me a lot of time and work nobody gave me anything for free.
It is a 24 volt system with batteries and an inverter. I am not off grid but the system has been used durring power outages over the years since I built it. The inverter puts out 110 and 220 v ac, will run refrigerators micowave oven ans furnace. I was off grid for 8 years in the '90s but never had the time or money to build this system back then.
what does it cost to live there? I mean price of a lot, price to build a home, ... can you build any home you like? Like, can I dig a hole in a slope of a mountain, build my home in it, big windows on the slope of the mountain, and cover it again with soil and new trees? Can I just block some water in a creek, run my line, generate electricity that way? I mean, you have no restrictions like we have in Belgium, we can't just burn wood to heat ourselves, you don't want to know the fine they throw at you if they catch you doing that...but they are ok with bbq (go figure). I would love it over there, to invent my own way to generate heat and electricity, and I know a bunch of ways now! For example, I would use a sand battery to heat my home, not burn wood and run the steam through my central heating or so, a sand battery can hold heat a lot longer, so just a pump to run hot steam through a set of pipes to heat the sand battery, and another pump to run the water from the central heating through the sand battery.
There are plenty of restrictions and regulations in all US districts, so no you can't do what ever you want. In rural areas you can burn wood to heat your home, you can use wood to create steam in a less than 5 cubic foot water volume boiler up to 250 psi without requiring state certified inspections in Wisconsin. Everything is expensive so unless you are a member of the monetary system monopolizing weapons dealing war profiteering class, you will be a wage slave or a poor retiree like me. A sand battery is not an energy source. Secondly, energy moves from concentration to dissipation through what is called entropy so how efficiently heat can be stored in sand depends on the value of the insulation. In other words good luck with any utilization with sand as a heat storage medium. Gooday Eh K
To build another one would be in the thousand dollar range, to build like a hundred of them would bring the cost way down per unit. Right now after fracking and other reasons fuel cost is way down so energy independence is not economically viable. Thank you for commenting, gooday eh K
I think your off-grid stuff is pretty cool but you should know at your age that a sauna is a very bad environment for an acoustic guitar. Just sayin! Otherwise....good stuff.
@@williammanning3174 It is okay the sauna music scene is a little cheezy but was meant to show that the energy shack also is a nice sauna.Thank you for commenting. I just hit 1000 subscribers so I have to produce a thank you celebration video soon.
Thanks for commenting I figured you would like my live steam experimentation after watching your great video. I like that your miniature steam engine does the same thing mine does on a smaller scale, gooday eh :)
I bought the Permanent Motor Generators on Ebay as well as an arduino for the electronic governor, I bought the injector from a company in England , I designed and built the boiler and the turbine myself.
What is the steam engine that about all I need and bro you making enough energy with that flattop you don’t even need a generator RMAOLF damn bro awsome
My boiler is a water tube type boiler using schedule 40 pipe which is totally adequate for 250 psi which is the limit here. The turbine principles I use are simple and some people sort of even guessed them from the video but the specifics need to be arrived at through testing; at the same time my turbine was designed through trial and error experimentation and observation so I believe it may still be proprietary meaning I could patent it if I had the money. Therefore, over the years I have had at least one invention stolen from me. The thieves are now millionaires many times over and I am quite poor financially. I guess that is how KKKapitalism works, sorry. I think if you life in a rural heavily wooded area in Europe and are interested in off grid living, the energy bootlegger as I sometimes call it, is a worthy addition to solar and wind. Gooday Eh, Ken Driessen Local Ideas Inc NPO chair
@@localideasinc i was really amazed and happy that you responded me months ago (it was before the ukranian war lol just at our border) it was so important i didnt know what to type and eventually just forgot because life was insanely busy. but now my solar system is soon up and running and the question just comes up again and again.: what im going to do in the winter if solar is scarce? we dont have high winds here and the water goes away...and i dont want to use gasoline by any means so i either need a gasifier or a steam turbine.
Anybody else find this video because they imagined a similar design themselves, and started wondering/asking people why they've never heard of this as an option?! The potential uses seem impressive; electricity, house/shop heat, pool/hottub/sauna heat... Comfortable off grid living if you ask me! With the high efficiency wood burning technology of some stoves today, and the availability of the electronics necessary to make a system like this more "user friendly", I'm surprised there's not a more established market for this type of thing. Enjoyed your video, thanks!
Wood has 4 times as much heat as any other fuel. It heats you when you cut it, heats you when you split it, it heats you when you stack it, it heats you when you burn it :). It takes work to be energy independent, people are spoiled and lazy.
Yas just the same thing here I'm building the same type of system only smaller for a backup for my solar system, I'm planning to use a wood gasifier as the main power source
@@localideasinc coal has more heat per ton/cord lol for those buying wood, its usually cheaper
This is great, the only problem is it is the same as a coal burning plant witch were trying to stray from, due to co/co2 emissions, renewable is the best way, although costly to start, even cheaper in the long run due to not needing wood/coal fuel, batterys help, cost of lead/lithium is too high tho, an if everyone does this, everything will crash
@@99-white-balloons I don't buy wood I've cut my own and heated with wood for over 40 years, in some places dead trees are forest fire tinder if they are not cleared and burned for heat and energy in a stove with a chimney.
As a retired Wood Cutter, I agree with you on the need for both the solar and the wood, not only for true diversity, but also...
Because every solar panel we buy and install is cords and cords of wood we do not need to cut.
"SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!"
I once applied for a grant to use this type of device to control dead trees and forest fire tinder in areas the need to reduce the chances of forest fires. Global warming is killing much of the world's boreal forests and it would be better to burn the dead diseased trees to make heat and electricity rather than let them become forest fire fuel. IMHO
@@localideasinc Yeah, but raking the forests is a pretty big task.
We'd be better off just bringing the Beavers back, and making it a capital crime to interfere with one.
@@TimeSurfer206I never said anything about raking the forests, I'm not a Trumpanzee, we can use wind blow down and diseased trees to lessen forest fire hazard in rural residential areas without disturbing unpopulated woodlands.
This is the kind of self reliance that govts hate. Good stuff.
It is not only the government that hates this, their corporate monetary system monopolizing weapons dealing war profiteering masters they gave an unconstitutional private monopoly over our monetary system to in 1913 hates everything I do. If you worked for $5000 an hour for 500 years without missing a single day of work you would not quite earn a billion dollars. Yet Muskrat pocketed over 200 billion for rockets that blow up, self driving cars that crash, very boring pipe dream tunnel company. Many others have decent inventions and designs that could help humanity but privileged prima donna sub human top feeder parasites own and rule the planet.
Aaahhh the good old days of RUclips. Perfect
I’m sorry to see so many giving you a hard time over the things they don’t see in the video.
Your an Inspiration. Well made and looks like it works great. I hope it’s still running strong and making juice.
Well it is just sitting there with the boiler filled with anti-freeze ready to be used. I'm not living there presently but I still own it and have access to it. I may get over there and fire it up in the fall. Our human species is very diverse. Some of us fit into the sentient sapient part of the bell curve of life and some don't. Thank you for commenting, gooday eh K
@@localideasinc I wander if I could ask where you based your primary engine design from? I’m looking to build something and you indicated in your video that you were happy with its Proformance.
I have a knee mill and lathe so fabrication shouldn’t be an issue.
I hear my house with a out door wood boiler and plan to fabricate a stainless tube type boiler that will mount on the stack. Should help produce a reasonable head pressure.
@@Red9GearHeads I'm a bit confused as to what you mean by a primary engine, so I looked up this: www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/primary-engine The primary energy source is wood fire. I'm assuming you mean the steam turbine? Maybe on this video as well as a few others I say things or give hints. It is a hybrid and I'm not going to give away any more information on it. I built four different turbine designs and several piston steam engines and spent a lot of time and money to get to this point with little or no help. I recently uploaded a video of an electric bike I designed and built in 2003 about the same time Segway and his money monopolizing wankers had millions to spend so having a lot of money does not necessarily mean the inbreed pompous fools can engineer themselves out of a paper bag. Good luck, I think wood, steam, heat and electricity will back up solar and wind in heavily wooded areas but I have been cheated so many times I'm not giving my work away for free, Gooday Eh K
@@localideasinc Fair enough! I can certainly understand how you would be reluctant to share hard earned knowledge on your working design. I also agree that simple well though out bench top engineering often beats cubicles full of collage trained box minded engineers.
For the record I wasn’t expecting you to hand over detailed drawings of your design as much as any nuggets of wisdom I could use in my own goal to create some usable power from my wasted heat.
Best of luck in your endeavors
this guy is my spirit animal!
wood will be the power of the future!
thanks for the vid ;)
Wow this is Awsome! Exactly what I was picturing in my mind when trying to see if anyone has done it before. I want blueprints or more in-depth vid explaining everything
Thanks, the boiler is a water tube boiler and the turbine may be an original design so is proprietary until I would get a patent or find out that it is already in the public domain. This project was expensive for me and a lot of work I'm not going to give it away, I relatively poor, some of my ideas were already stolen and those people are now millionaires. Somewhere I have some photos of the boiler construction I might try and make a video discussing that and showing it. I still think that this energy bootlegger(tm) power house could be useful in heavily wooded areas. Trees get diseased and blown down by strong winds and become forest fire tinder and it is environmentally a good idea to keep this fuel at a minimum in rural residential areas. Burning wood make heat and electricity is not a solve all energy solution but is a good addition to our energy mix. Thanks again K.
There is something magical about steam, the smell, the look and the amazing things you can do with it, Co generation is a fantastic idea especially if you can get the magic three which are electricity, heating hot water and domestic hot water, there's even the possibility of using the last bit of heat to heat a greenhouse during winter. I am about to setup a system like this myself, I have purchased a 10Hp boiler which is in excellent condition along with two reciprocating steam engines, a Tangye and a Soho and I also have a small steam turbine to experiment with, one of the engines I plan to have running a power shaft through the shed to power the pedestal drill, wood working machines etc.
"I'm in a sauna by myself" resonates so hard with me right now.
I have a much smaller set up. For my turbine I use an Ingersoll Rand 1/2" pneumatic air drill with a half coupling to a small 12 volt car alternator. Powered by an old air compressor tank with gauges and a firebox under it. It charges two deep cycle marine batteries.
Thats a brilliant idea.
You could keep adding generation as feasible.
You'd just need a good charge controller that supports multiple varied inputs.
looks like I'm not the only one who thought of this I was going to make something small to start out with I'm in a shelter I'm just started being off grid had enough with the system absolutely sickened by the way things are run in this country and all others pretty much great job by the way I knew someone else would have thought of this simple idea
very practical and nice set up buddy..... with a little time and thought process it can be done. much thanks for posting, really much thanks...
I grew up in Bruce crossing Mi. around same time period, we manufactured wood fired boilers & sauna & wood fired furnaces there. Anyhoo your concept seems simplified compared to a huge steam engine,I'm amazed that little turbine dose all that work! cool
I went to Michigan Tech in the '80s, I'm living in Houghton with my girlfriend now, my steam engine is down in Wisconsin with anti-freeze in the boiler sort of on moth balls.
Thank you for showing all your work!
I figured you were here somewhere
I figured you were here somewhere
Been contemplating my own design similar to yours. Great show, thanks for sharing!
Are u selling any of that good homegrown weed u been smoking before u started playing the guitar
This is amazing, I'm a welder and I'm getting to work on one right away! thanks so much for explaining this
please make another vid. would like to see any updates or challenges you’ve overcome
Great ideas. I would like to talk to you about a wood-based electrical generation solution, and if I understand it correctly, your comments below are saying you may build them?
That was several years ago, I am not living where the system is and will soon need a place to move it all. I'm 66 a year ago I was almost assassinated February 26, 2022, lowered my Piss and VIngar level. I would have loved to have a company building and selling similar units I believe in it. I'm totally let down and POed about humanity and the US. Anyway thank you for your interest.
Thank you for an amazing movie! =) Keep it up!
Great work. You posted this in 2016! I only started thinking about steam generated off-grid power in 2021.
We now have supply chain problems which millions of people are dependent on.
You have helped make it clear that the private household does not have to be 'tethered' to a power grid.
I like the way you have designed a way to draw water into the boiler. I was wondering if a voltage regulator should be added to the system.
There is a governor on it. The cogen' system is currently mothballed. As usefull as the energy bootlegger or power house as I call it is, I have come to the determination that in most places including the Northwoods, super insulated ultra-modern living structure architectural design is key to living comfortably and using less energy. Substandard housing inefficient high energy consuming housing throughout the US while the ultra-rich build cock rockets and have wet dreams of going to Mars while letting the masses on Earth deplete and pollute resources killing the planet is where the money is at proving we being lead to hell and self inflicted extinction by prima donna
Mammon worshipers. I've been writing about ultimate democracy, decentralized horizontal organization lately. We have allowed those who believe in infinite human economic growth to lead us on a finite planet for far too long. Thank you for the comment have a great day eh K: wethepeoplerule.net/the-west-manuscript/
Great job it's like something I would have done in Wisconsin you're awesome keep up the good work I wish I had one that was a miniature
Thanks David, the boiler and turbine are just sitting there with RV antifreeze in the boiler. I hope to get back there and improve some automated control and run it a bit. Sometimes I feel like why did I bother? If I was in the right caste I could have built a useless Segway or a Cock Rocket and been a lucrative failure.
FU! You weld on that? Awesome!
Well if I'm production welding I hook up to the grid but yes the welding being done in the video is coming off the inverter and the batteries charged from the wood boiler steam powered generator. I tested it this last summer and it still works. Thanks for the comment Z'
Could you just hook the turbine direct to a small generator with out battery ?
If you are using the system for off grid energy you are going to want batteries, in the first part of the video with the batteries in the circuit I show that the battery voltage rises with the generator hooked to them, then I switched over to the vane motor and different generator that was not hooked up to the batteries at about 11:20 into the video so the grinder and lights are running directly off of that generator like you ask. This is not some lying wonky perpetual motion over unity bull vagina hoaxer video like the ones goofs watch with over a million views, this is real, if you don't believe me that is your prerogative. Thanks for the comment, sorry if you were not suggesting that this is all fake because of the batteries being in the circuit of the first part of the video. Gooday Eh K
I'm ordering a cnc turbine for my steam setup soon, but I wanted to incorporate a wood gasification unit to the heat source for the boiler, and along with wood gas I should end up with a good amount of charcoal, that will make a decent heat source itself.
But I wonder how many acres of trees it would take to keep up a renewable source of lumber for years to come?
A smokeless wood stove could be accomplished with rocket stove technology. Rocket stoves have tall combustion chambers allowing air, which enters at the bottom, more time to burn the wood more completely.
I personally think even a 6 volt or a 12 volt turbine would be enough to charge a bank of lithium batteries for cordless appliances. It wouldn't be enough for an electric car.
Thanks for the great video, getting me excited to make my own.
Great touch on the guitar bit, warms things up well ha
Got an idea for something like this but instead using gas heating through methane by a waste system. Compost, heat, and electricity. Course, this is just one of many ways. I very much like contingencies. Hydroelectric will be my main focus.
Is this you? facebook.com/winter.lovelace If so you are both gorgeous and I love that you think about alternate ways of making and using energy. I imagine we could talk for many hours. Gooday eh (from a northerner) and have a Happy New Year.
Naked in the sauna will be a top selling platinum hit!
Well the Sauna part of the video received the most hateful comments, it was supposed to be funny and show besides all the other stuff it does, it doubles as a sauna.
@@localideasinc People just need to grow a sense of humor eh? Keep up the good work and don't let the haters stop ya, they're just jealous. :P
so finally the internet finds out how the water gets into the high pressure boiler 07:33. thanks!
You are welcome, the injector is just one way, bigger systems have pumps.
Have you considered turning your chimney smoke into wood gas?
THANKS FOR THIS FANTASTIC INSPIRATION.....
VERY good Finginuity" love it! ejector pump is a nice touch, ya did your homework obviously " all in all gr8 job!
"Finginuity" thanks I know what you meant but after "Covefefe" it made me smie :)
I LOVE THIS! I wanna do it too!
RUclips Algorithm is corrupt. It took bloody mayhem in Wisconsin for *this* gem to appear in my metered *feed*! Have I not been seeking off-grid power generation for years?
Thanks, this system I built years ago already still works. The turbine design solves a lot of problems and is sort of proprietary so I don't explain the entire workings of that, but yes a small wood/steam combined heat and electricity system to be used when the wind is not blowing and the sun is not shining makes everything work. You are so right, I have seen so many perpetual motion scammers get millions of hits while my stuff that actually does what it says and shows remains undiscovered. Thanks again, K
This is way cool I’m glad there is someone out there that’s built and tested something like this.. how about if you put a steam room in your garage/shop, then use some of the excess steam/pressure to get a good steam during the winter? Start of the video it looked very cold and hearing as you sound like you’re from the great north, winters are long and cold.
Quite ingenious! I sure hope you have a couple of good relief valves in your system; steam is potentially dangerous and your life depends on those safeties. Great old-fashioned home-grown ingenuity.
Ah, yes I have relief valves, pressure gauges and water level sight glass. It is a water tube boiler which is safer by design if all other safety measures were to fail. I once took a fire safety class to help with a bad fire season, it rained and the fires went out the very night after I passed the class and was ready to go to work. Gas and other fuel prices remain relatively low compared to when I decided to dedicate much of my energy to off grind and alternative energy and transportation projects. It went from something I thought I could help save the world at and make a good living to an expensive hobby. Gooday Eh.
awesome
It would be cool to get a three phase motor up to a steam turbine. It might require a bit of todo and power electronics, but assuming you could design a control system to regulate steam pressure and figure out how to manage load you could potentially try to sync the frequency.
Thanks for the video. Very impressive, thank you for sharing your expertise.
Are there any recommended commercially available units?
I'm also in northern WI and dead fall is extremely abundant.
None that I know of, I have designed many things that work while the investment money goes to pipe dreams like Segway and cock rockets such is the monetary system monopolizing weapons dealing war profiteering dominated world, gooday eh K
I’d love to know what type of turbine you ended up with.
This is way to awesome! I love it!
Very nice job.
I love it great job
I grew up in da UP eh, now I'm in MN. we have lots of wood! I like your system " I want to manufacture my little pulse jet engine design, & your power system is one of the most intriguing concept I've seen. makes sense " I want one! Will have to keep ya list of things to perhaps invest in your system,. I need to sell my jets 1st so I can afford anything @ moment " :/ mabey trade jets for alternative energy parts? Lol
I lived in the UP out of Houghton and then Baraga from 1984 to 1997. I built this Combined heat and electricity system because I always wanted one for myself but also with the thought of manufacturing and marketing them. I have some automation like the governor and circulation pump but feel it is still quite a lot of work to run yet. It could be useful for off grid secluded places in AK and Canada beyond the power lines. The boiler should probably be a couple thousand or better and the turbine a thousand I tested and ran it outside for a few years but the system should really be in a sauna shack like it is now so there is a thou' or so more plus the heat exchanger on and on, batteries and inverter another thou' so it is probably a 5 to 10 thousand dollar set up if I were to try manufacture sell and install them. Price a central outdoor low or no pressure wood stove so yeah..
FYI the creator answered a question from a commenter about some tech details on the Green steam engine TedX video.
"The generator is just a tread mill permanent magnet DC motor and I run a 24V system and I run at about 150 psi. steam pressure. Thanks for asking."
TedX is here ruclips.net/video/SbgwDk7A4as/видео.html
You've done a tremendous job there. How does your turbine not require lubrication? What kind of rpm's does it run? I live down south in SC. We have a thriving pulp wood industry here. Mainly pine. It would burn really dirty, but could be done cheaply. I've been thinking of other things like this also.
I'm trying to figure out the needed output of a solar steam type generator (array type, solar collector) to run a small turbine. I was thinking of building my own turbine with air bearings to remove the oil that's necessary for lubrication and cooling. I'd also like my turbine/generator slightly over powered to run an air compressor, firstly for night time and clouded conditions when the solar array would be down or under producing, but also for the bearings. Instead of a battery bank, which requires heavy metals and dangerous chemicals, plus replacement every 5 to 7 years. I'd store air pressure in a holding tank to run the turbine, and offset low or no steam production times with air. I'd probably still set up an emergency wood fired boiler just in case of long term maintenance problems.
I think your system is one of the few serious set ups I've seen. Very nice indeed. Thanks for the video...
It requires lubrication, but it may be using water lubricated bearings, which is common for steam turbines.
Well thanks for replying, you're doing good work man keep it up. Good luck
Hi, very good video I like this I have thought about steam generators before but just could not find the right turbine I am working on a home generator setup now my self, and what I need to know is how you did the electrical output side of your generator like how you converted the DC voltage to AC voltage this is the trouble I am having with my setup.
I used batteries, diodes and an inverter to get from the turbine to the perminant magnet motor/generator to produce standard single phase 120/240 AC
@@wiscokiddd ok, could you tell me more about how you did it and what parts like the diodes and show how you hooked it all up please thank you, Steven.
The diode keeps the generator from backfeeding and working like a motor it has to be good for the voltage and the amperage of load I the think the electricity you will put out a small system will only require a smaller diode 100 amp diodes are cheep enough on ebay. My system only does about 1 hp or 746 watts so you divide it by like 24 volts giving 31 amps. Any way I'm busy gotta go thanks for the view and the question good luck peace out k
I was able to view the tool use in the machine shop. Does your lathe operate directly off the inverter output of 120 or 240 v single phase...? It may make better sense to convert to a DC motor and operate directly off the battery bank.
wow 400W, big up man.. that's cool
I still had the old thermaldepolymerization vessel in the boiler firebox when I did that video. SInce then I took that out and added almost another cubic foot to the steam vessel volume and I have a 250 psi relief valve so I can run a little hotter. So yeah it is not a great deal of electricity but it adds up and the heat through them old car radiators is a bonus in the winter, if I had more money I'd have a place designed for the bootlegger to do all the heat, hot water and off grid backup for wind and solar, I also have worked on making Air Conditioning with it believe it or not. Thanks for the comment gooday eh.
Greetings from Hayward California... BTW, more than 50 years ago I used to summer in Hayward/Spooner area, fish in Shell lake, etc.
The last time I visited Hayward California was in 1999, nicer than here in the winter for sure, for a very populated area I still love the Bay Area and it is very beautiful, I sub'ed !
@@localideasincbay area is now a huge toilet....loaded with addition and crime...let your memories stay intact...do not go backwards
Hi Kenny, thanks for your great home video it's really interesting and fun. I would like to ask you about your home made steam turbine. Do you have any plans or would you share your
design with other like-minded folk? I am also looking at a gasifier system for running a generator as it is easier to build but I like your system.
Well this design was my 5th micro-turbine prototype the specifics are proprietary because I cannot afford to patent or trademark the design. Simultaneously everyone wants my work for free and at the same time the monetary system monopolizing weapons dealing war profiteering class spends 100s of billions of dollars supporting their elite privileged bezo musk lords that use the money to build yachts and cock rockets. Thank you for your interest in my work that turned out to be a very expensive hobby instead of becoming profitable means to help us all lead richer more environmentally sustainable lives.
@@localideasinc Okay Kenny, thanks for your reply and I am sorry that you must have spent many hours perfecting your design to arrive at an efficient unit. Unfortunately this is where Stanley Myers ended up when the men in black turned up at his door. The powerful people in the higher echelons don't want the good ideas to get out in case they might damage the healthy profits that they already enjoy and of course the petrol companies are making sure the government get their revenue.
So I guess your design will remain shelved until the world runs out of crude oil. It would seem only just if you could patent your design or find a backer to help you achieve this.
The whole system is flawed and corrupted without doubt.
@@localideasinc what would it cost to patent it? I would be interested in helping to do the research to produce proof of it being a unique design that I know is necessary if that is part of your difficulties. After signing a confidentiality and nondisclosure agreement of course...
@@jrbear1554 I'm thinking you are from the USA but what state? I'm from Wisconsin buy currently in the UP of Mich'. I applied for several patents but it is a rich man's game. I like that you realize the confidentiality and nondisclosure issues. If I would have a magical time reversing do over I would not have applied for utility patents and applied for design patents instead. On to the turbine I think it is still one of the best most efficient micro turbine designs out there. I have several channels on youtube. I am also into politics, activism and advocacy and have had accounts and email accounts permanently suspended for speaking out against war and corporate greed. That is why I have many emails. My name is Ken and here is one of my emails so we can discuss the patent-ability, non disclosure etc. at_lib@hotmail.com
that song lol... awesome work on the system man
Fantastic engineering there!
I'm on 40 acres I like this I got lots of brush and scrub I can burn and clean my bus up and at the same time you self-sufficient I like it
Anyone knows of a company selling suvh solutions off-the-shelf ideally in Europe? Thanka
No I don't know of anyone anywhere that sells micro boilers and turbines, that is why I built this system. I applied for a grant from the US National forest in March of 2012 to help control dead and diseased trees, also known to be forest fire tinder. They gave the grant to somebody in conventional logging for tree processing equipment. There is obviously more money in it for the moneyed class to just let everything burn own in the dry seasons. If you are rich and have an idea for a new type of Segway you will get 10s of millions in seed money but a poor man is meant to be a wage slave and better know that. I wish I could help you, let me know if you find someone :(
What metal do you use for the turbine ?
How many blades it has ?
What pressure the steam has going into the turbine ?
Could you plz give me the dimensions of the turbine ?
I hope you are kidding? When you finally design or invent something, please contact me and give me all the dimensions and particulars of the design for free, thank you.
@@localideasinc No no , sure not for free ! How much cost your design details ?
@@tobiaskarl4939 I put this channel up to try and attract investors, I have built many prototypes, applied for patents; nobody is interested, the elite uber wealthy have no desire to improve our lives or save the planet, they invest in psychopath Musk's plan to go to Mars and Bezos Cock-Rockets. I used just just regular schedule 40 steel for the prototype, if mass produced it would require stainless steel or some other non-rusting metal. the prototype still runs but I only use it for experiments and the demonstration videos. I built an electric battery powered bike that worked great back in 2003 when stupid Segway was attracting millions from investors. The moneyed people are just that, no intelligence no morals just elite creepy slime monetary system monopolizing weapons dealing war profiteering inbred unconstitutional nobility instead of leaders willing to improve the quality of human life within the limits of and respecting the natural biosphere.
Thank you for making the case for wood fired boilers and cogen. My off grid slow band width prevented me from getting specs on your turbine and I think it was a DC motor used as a DC generator. What is the motor hp rating and voltage...?? What RPM are you spinning the motor at? Are you using a PVM controller and are used wood burning boilers easily obtained? This is really an exciting topic.
it is a 90v at 7100 rpm permanent magnet motor and when I'm charging it is about 28 volts, it has been a couple years since I put a tach' on it, I think by memory it was running like 3200, I'm not positive, the next time I run it I'll get some batteries in the cheap tachometer and check it again. I have an arduino governor. Thank you for your interest, I'm sure others are doing similar things but I have not seen another complete working micro wood steam electricity heat system up and running on youtube. Fake perpetual motion free energy videos get millions of views, I just do what I do, it is not fake, it is not really turn key, I have to watch it. I have gotten distracted and had the relief valve pop off, I have it piped outside now so it does no real harm. Gooday Eh K (opps I'm not signed in as local ideas or wiscokidd my main channels)
Hi @@kendriessen9538, I took that concept (had been thinking about it before) and placed a 1hp 90vdc motor as a generator behind a lombardini diesel with a PVM controller. I'm guessing the RPM to be about 800-1,000 and voltage output was close to 75Volts. With the 48V bank I was seeing 18-20 AMPS. This is a pulley about 1 to 1 drive. Goal was to direct charge the bank without going thru a 48v battery charger. I like the concept so well I'll be building another with a yanmar I have. I tested a 180v motor but the 90V is less losses. I can share pictures if interested.
@@offgridmangogrower I’d be interested email me samueljmullen@gmail.com
@@kendriessen9538 well you inspired me...!
I checked my bomb hoist off a destroyer....and it has several air motors...!
I'm going to turn them with steam and maybe an oil mist...!
Hook them up with joy couplings and let er rip...!
I tried sending pics but it was just crickets from your email...?
Another nugget....I have two large propane tanks....one can be a water/steam vessel and the other a lower cut down fire box........I tried using a firebox boiler insert but it does poorly on HEAT transfer.....
I’m surprised there hasn’t been a large solar magnifying glass used to heat a boiler to generate a turbine.
There are quite a few different solar boilers out there already in fact I applied for a patent on one in the '90s myself: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentrated_solar_power
So.. Any chance of a tutorial on how to build your efficient turbine? Pretty please?
As far as I know I may be able to apply for a kind of a patent so that is proprietary information yet. That is why I have not answered your question, thanks for asking, I hardly use this channel, hope to get back to it with some new prototypes, K.
i love your independence.
As for the use of wood. have you looked at comparing if it would be more effective
to use the wood in a wood gasifier and then run a generator from that woodgas
or use the steam like you do.
I feels to me that producing some sort of gas like biogas or woodgas has many
more practical advantages fro storing and using on demand vs steam where one
would have to make use of the waste heat to keep it efficient.
have you looked into this?
You must not be in the USA, besides that your comments come up as spam and I have to okay them, you don't seem like a spammer. Yes I experimented with woodgas quite a bit and even made a truck run on stored woodgas for a little bit. I like the wood/steam/electricity and heat better, it gets like minus 30 C deg here in the winter so the heat is used. Some of that work is on this channel and some is on one of my other channels ruclips.net/user/wiscokiddd Thanks again.
Thank you,
yes, I am in Switzerland but I lived in the US for 14 years till 2010-11
I figured you liked steam better for some reason, and I can see that. Once we have something that works and the maintenance and running is manageable, why change.
Will keep watching your channel.
do you have a build video for your steam turbines?
it takes energy to make the wood chips to run the gasifier
@@ybaggi awesome ideas
Whoa wow very impressive.👍🏻😎 awesome!!
Cecil B DeMille would be proud of this production. Hey camera man put down the lighter.
Amazing man!
What kind of turbine are you using for this power plant? (Tesla turbine, axial, radial)
Inspirering stuff.
I have a sawmill and get a lot of waste . I have 2 kw of solar I have been wanting a steam engine why did you go the turbin way instead of a steam engine? were did you git the boiler
The turbine has required no lubrication or maintenance whatsoever for several years, I have built and modified several piston engines and run them. When you first start a steam engine by turning on a steam valve and feeding steam to the engine, it will condense in it until the engine warms up. So if you can imagine a piston pushing against water it will bring the engine to an abrupt stop. That is why they have those little valves that let the water out that you close after it warms up. A simple turbine or my proprietary design can push the water through and start up without any procedures. I designed and built the boiler myself, I studied state and federal regulations. I don't know where you live, I'm in Northern Wisconsin and even with this wonderful global warming it is 15 deg f and was zero last night so besides generating electricity the heat is very welcome and useful. If you are down south let the wood rot and buy more solar collectors is my advice unless you figure out the mosquito coast set up... gooday eh
I wonder if a Stirling cycle cryogenic cooler could turn air into liquid that filled a tank with a bell siphon that filled a Joe cell that produced hydrogen has the liquid air boiled off back into vapor to operate a combustion engine to operate an electrical generator?
Sounds ridiculous. But cooling the air might condense CO2 for sodas. Dry ice is so pure due to other gases liquifying earlier.
Are you wasting condensate or pumping back to the boiler?
Wasting condensate? I'm not sure but I think you are trying to talk smart, I run the generator off the steam and then it goes though a radiator in the garage where it condenses back into water. I don't necessarily put that water back into the boiler but wasting as if the water run through the system is magic condensate and it is somehow going to waste is not something I worry about. I could put the water back in yeah. thanks for the question.
@@localideasinc I’m using the term wasting meaning not reusing it.
@@larryboy4905 My point is there really is not much to reuse, I have a plastic hospital size square wash pan where the condensed water goes when I run the system. If I used it full time I could take that water and inject it back into the boiler if I chose to or when it is not running I could pour it back in through the fill pipe.
WOW!!! I want one. When can we get started? I have been wanting to build a water wheel, but I have too much ice on the river when I need electricity the most. This looks like a great year round solution. If you don't mind me asking , how much wood do you use in an average day?
nice
Hope that boiler has a steam relief valve on it!
Yes it does, now if I could just get some relief from commenters that probably never worked in at a coal fired steam electricity generation plant, went to engineering school or built an off grid wood fired combined heat and electricity system. Thank you for the comment though, gooday eh k.
Why did you add the pelton wheel to the tesla turbine?
5:50 what kind of steam are you smoking ?
Great job! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for commenting, burnt garbage and got a head of steam a couple times this summer but don't use it much then, almost looking forward to winter to use the boiler and turbine again.
How much do you change to build that Tesla steam turbine?
Awesome set up!
There is also thermal electric generating elements/plates that you can buy to improve your electric input.
Also did you not use galvanized steel for its poisonous gas when you get it hot?
Again thats is just a sweet system!
Most of the pipe is not galvanized but yes I am aware that welding galvanized pipe produced poisonous gas. Have you ever messed with thermal electric elements such as in the eco-fans you set on top of a wood stove or priced them anywhere? To buy enough of those thermoelectric generator cells to make one 10th of the electricity I produce would cost more than the whole project. A small improvement on the turbine or the boiler would be more cost effective than thermoelectric generation at this point. Thank you for the complement and creative criticism, this reply is from one of my other channels, Local Ideas is also my and my friend's channel, gooday eh
Awesome stuff
Very interesting. Could you please answer a few questions please? First one is I note that you were reading on the voltmeter nearly 24 volts, I take it you are running two large 12 volt batteries in series or a big lorry 24 volt battery? Second question is, you say you are not using an adapter to go through an inverter but you were using a grinder and a lathe which I guess are single phase 220volt. How did you do this? Third question is you say you made the biker yourself. I did not know boiler grade plate was still being manufacturered in U.S.A., I thought it is now only made in Germany but I may be wrong. What gauage and grade of steel did you use and how many tubes in the boiler?
Did you everything of gasification.. you use the syn gas as natural gas. You could use on demand or compress it. You run the system gas As heat you can run a generator, off it your can make charcoal to as byproduct to run at later tomorrow you make domestic hot water you store the thermal enter into sand battery months at a time. You can store heat over 700c and us as steam if you like. It's cheap and requires no maintance and last a life time and it dirt cheap to build and operate. You can run modified vechical to run off wood gas.
Was the turbine bought or built??
I designed and built it, it is proprietary and probably patentable, many people want me to give them the plans but it cost me a lot of time and work nobody gave me anything for free.
Now I got question ur generator lil one how does it work do u run it straight to house or do u run off batteries an same question go for bigger one
It is a 24 volt system with batteries and an inverter. I am not off grid but the system has been used durring power outages over the years since I built it. The inverter puts out 110 and 220 v ac, will run refrigerators micowave oven ans furnace. I was off grid for 8 years in the '90s but never had the time or money to build this system back then.
Fantastic Ideas thank you for sharing!
You're a badass, subscribed. Keep it up!
Thanks,"badass" is the best compliment I had in a long time! If money were the only sign of success I'm a happy loser☮
I wonder if this could be done using a pto (tractor ran) generator? Good job btw!!!
@David I should have been more clear. My apologies. I was meaning this process with a pto generator.
@David ty
if I'm ever in Hayward, I'll have ta look ya up,& check out your system, & while I'm there I can add some shredding riffs to your song" lol
what does it cost to live there? I mean price of a lot, price to build a home, ... can you build any home you like? Like, can I dig a hole in a slope of a mountain, build my home in it, big windows on the slope of the mountain, and cover it again with soil and new trees? Can I just block some water in a creek, run my line, generate electricity that way? I mean, you have no restrictions like we have in Belgium, we can't just burn wood to heat ourselves, you don't want to know the fine they throw at you if they catch you doing that...but they are ok with bbq (go figure).
I would love it over there, to invent my own way to generate heat and electricity, and I know a bunch of ways now!
For example, I would use a sand battery to heat my home, not burn wood and run the steam through my central heating or so, a sand battery can hold heat a lot longer, so just a pump to run hot steam through a set of pipes to heat the sand battery, and another pump to run the water from the central heating through the sand battery.
There are plenty of restrictions and regulations in all US districts, so no you can't do what ever you want. In rural areas you can burn wood to heat your home, you can use wood to create steam in a less than 5 cubic foot water volume boiler up to 250 psi without requiring state certified inspections in Wisconsin. Everything is expensive so unless you are a member of the monetary system monopolizing weapons dealing war profiteering class, you will be a wage slave or a poor retiree like me. A sand battery is not an energy source. Secondly, energy moves from concentration to dissipation through what is called entropy so how efficiently heat can be stored in sand depends on the value of the insulation. In other words good luck with any utilization with sand as a heat storage medium. Gooday Eh K
Great Job you Peace maker. i was just wondering can we use Parabolic through or dishes to produce steam?
To build another one would be in the thousand dollar range, to build like a hundred of them would bring the cost way down per unit. Right now after fracking and other reasons fuel cost is way down so energy independence is not economically viable. Thank you for commenting, gooday eh K
how do I make a turbine like that
I think your off-grid stuff is pretty cool but you should know at your age that a sauna is a very bad environment for an acoustic guitar. Just sayin! Otherwise....good stuff.
The guitar is a cheap nylon string sting guitar, it didn't hurt it, I still play it once in a while.
@@localideasinc That's okay. I was just messing with ya.
@@williammanning3174 It is okay the sauna music scene is a little cheezy but was meant to show that the energy shack also is a nice sauna.Thank you for commenting. I just hit 1000 subscribers so I have to produce a thank you celebration video soon.
good job!
Thank you for the video.
Wow great job that man.
Thanks for commenting I figured you would like my live steam experimentation after watching your great video. I like that your miniature steam engine does the same thing mine does on a smaller scale, gooday eh :)
Very interesting.
Thank you for commenting and sub'ing, subbed back, Ken :)
Where did you buy the components?
I bought the Permanent Motor Generators on Ebay as well as an arduino for the electronic governor, I bought the injector from a company in England , I designed and built the boiler and the turbine myself.
How much for the turbine
What is the steam engine that about all I need and bro you making enough energy with that flattop you don’t even need a generator RMAOLF damn bro awsome
Impressive.
+Richard Mann Thanks.
Bro this is we’re I am going next steam have burned coal and wood since I was a kid and now I am going to run the home off steam
best video i found in this topic so far! can you make me a turbine? im in eu
My boiler is a water tube type boiler using schedule 40 pipe which is totally adequate for 250 psi which is the limit here. The turbine principles I use are simple and some people sort of even guessed them from the video but the specifics need to be arrived at through testing; at the same time my turbine was designed through trial and error experimentation and observation so I believe it may still be proprietary meaning I could patent it if I had the money. Therefore, over the years I have had at least one invention stolen from me. The thieves are now millionaires many times over and I am quite poor financially. I guess that is how KKKapitalism works, sorry. I think if you life in a rural heavily wooded area in Europe and are interested in off grid living, the energy bootlegger as I sometimes call it, is a worthy addition to solar and wind. Gooday Eh, Ken Driessen Local Ideas Inc NPO chair
@@localideasinc i was really amazed and happy that you responded me months ago (it was before the ukranian war lol just at our border) it was so important i didnt know what to type and eventually just forgot because life was insanely busy. but now my solar system is soon up and running and the question just comes up again and again.: what im going to do in the winter if solar is scarce? we dont have high winds here and the water goes away...and i dont want to use gasoline by any means so i either need a gasifier or a steam turbine.
Is this dude Al Yankovich cousin or brother, SelfReliant Mel Yankovich..?’making his own songs, cool nerdy ideas that have multiple uses.