Thank you! It’s important to know the why whenever you’re learning. It will help you improve much more rapidly and you’ll make better decisions when you play
Super video. I like that you are analysing how the Chinese do this because well...they are the best. Also the follow up on how to 3rd ball the serve. I'll be looking at your channel for more serves with this format
It's crazy, I worked like a month on the short and long backspin variant (works pretty decent now) and now I practised the short and long no-spin for one hour and already have a better quality and consistency in those. It is really satisfying and for sure good to use especially in moments when you are a bit nervous. Can't wait to test if I can fool my opponents with this :D Thanks man and keep up the quality content :-)
Thanks! I really appreciate it and it's awesome to hear that these videos are helping your game! Sometimes learning one serve will help you with a totally different serve because you start to understand the motion stroke and the spins better. A technique that I use in my game is if my opponent is pushing a lot of my backspin serves, I'll mix in a no spin. This ball will generally pop up but stay short so I'll crowd the table in anticipation of a short high ball. If you don't crowd the table it can be tough to keep it out of the net. Good luck against other players! Let me know how it goes!
Thank you for the suggestions. I have an anti-spin player at my club. Heavy underspin is useless with him. (And side-spin as well) I think that less spin will give him less to work with. Thanks again.
Great content, enjoyed all your videos. Excellent breakdown of each component of the movement. I’ve only started playing in the last few years and serve return is definitely an area that I’m weak on- short touches and just reading serves and so on. Looking forward to videos where you get into this.
thanks! i appreciate you tuning in! serve return is one of the very hardest things to learn in table tennis. I have some scripts written out for serve return videos but I still need to make them to incorporate them into my channel. A quick tip for the short touches is to step in under the table and get your body and head physically close to the ball. That's one thing that helped my game immensely!
A bit confused.. I understand that you're not using the wrist and eventually, when it reaches the other side of the table it will be topspin .. but from the looks of your serves when it reaches the opponent's side, it still has a lot of spin as I clearly see it curving. Can you help me understand it a bit more please. really appreciate your videos.
Great Videos! I’m having a lot of problems with simple low level serve where they serve arm extended to their side and they sweep across their body and either do a deep side spin backspin, or a side spin top spin. This really gives me trouble and often I do a passive block on the serve which is disastrous. How would you return these two serves? Thanks!
Hi, another really well-explained video. One question: You did mention the possibility of hitting the bottom of rubber (near thumb) to get less spin. But as I tried to focus on your contact, I noticed for the no-spin you are also hitting the back-side of the rubber -- on the part of the racquet that is furthest from the net. Are you doing that on purpose as well to get less spin?
Thanks for the feedback! I'm not sure that I totally understand your question but I'll try to answer as best I can. I know several players who adjust where they contact the ball on their racket; closer to the hand or further toward the tip of their racket. In general contacting the ball further toward the tip of the racket will generate more spin and contacting the ball closer to the hand will generate less spin. Personally in my game, I find this to be very difficult to control or to do with any sort of consistency so I don't personally focus on where I'm contacting the ball on my racket. I don't teach players not to try it but I also don't implement it in my game. Another way to think about it is if you are using lots of wrist movement the outer tip of the racket will be moving faster than the inner part of your racket by your hand. If you don't have wrist movement then both the outer part of your racket and the inner part will be moving at about the same pace so your contact point on the racket won't matter much. In general, I'd say that the wrist motion and grip you create between the ball and rubber will have a higher impact on the amount of spin you generate. The placement on the racket can also help if you're using lots of wrist, but without wrist movement it won't make a big difference. I have very little wrist movement with my dead ball serve so it won't make much of a difference where I contact the ball on my racket because it won't have any spin even if I contact it toward the tip of my racket. Hopefully this answers your question! If not, I'd love to give it another shot!
@@TableTennisJunkie Hi, thank you so much for taking the time to answer. I was afraid I wasn't being clear. I get you 100%. It is hard to explain. So you are talking up to down: from the tip of racket that moves more down to near the hand. My question is not about top to bottom, but from side to side. So when you do the backspin (or no-spin) serve, there is one side of racket that is closer to opponent (or net), and the backside which is closer to back wall behind you. I imagine if you are aiming for backspin you are hitting the side closer to net, so you give chance for ball to grip and slide a little. And from your slow-motion video, it looks like for no-spin you are hitting further back -- maybe to get less grip and impart less backspin? Another way to explain: I am not talking about the length of racket (from hand to tip), but about width of racket, from front side (closer to net) to back side. Just an added dimension of the serve I am asking about. If my question still makes no sense, for sure it is my fault, and I'll just stick to what I understand from your explanation. Thanks again!
Table Tennis Junkie Table Tennis Junkie I believe that the question is regarding the horizontal sections of the racket. For example In the video you talk about the vertical sections of the racket with less spin coming from the vertical section closest to your thumb. If you are right handed and serving. The question being asked is if there is a difference contacting the ball on the left side of the rubber vs the right. When this person references (the back side of the rubber farthest from the net) they are meaning the horizontal right side of the rubber. Will contacting the ball from the left side or right side of the racket change how much spin is imparted onto the ball? Does that make sense? Hopefully so. And since I am here anyways nice videos. I enjoy each one.
@@Megaboyd Exactly! Thank you for saying it in a clearer way. Yes, I wanted to know if that is also something to take into consideration when varying from the backspin to no-spin serve. I got a few pop-ups from my opponents today when I went from backspin to no-spin. Using no wrist and hitting underneath the ball really helped with the deception....so, great video!
I like your video instruction. However, it could have been even BETTER if you would have used a SPIN BALL (a table tennis ball with a LINE across its equator or a table tennis ball with each hemisphere having a different color) in order to video how the small amount of initial backspin served becomes NO-SPIN after bouncing twice before it finally reaches the opponent.
Love the simplicity and the excellent way you approach your game
It's great that you explain not only the how, but the why, the spin theory. Nice video.
Thank you! It’s important to know the why whenever you’re learning. It will help you improve much more rapidly and you’ll make better decisions when you play
Super video. I like that you are analysing how the Chinese do this because well...they are the best. Also the follow up on how to 3rd ball the serve. I'll be looking at your channel for more serves with this format
Like you said, the Chinese are the best and they are the players that you'll want to mimic for your technique and strokes.
It's crazy, I worked like a month on the short and long backspin variant (works pretty decent now) and now I practised the short and long no-spin for one hour and already have a better quality and consistency in those. It is really satisfying and for sure good to use especially in moments when you are a bit nervous. Can't wait to test if I can fool my opponents with this :D
Thanks man and keep up the quality content :-)
Thanks! I really appreciate it and it's awesome to hear that these videos are helping your game! Sometimes learning one serve will help you with a totally different serve because you start to understand the motion stroke and the spins better. A technique that I use in my game is if my opponent is pushing a lot of my backspin serves, I'll mix in a no spin. This ball will generally pop up but stay short so I'll crowd the table in anticipation of a short high ball. If you don't crowd the table it can be tough to keep it out of the net. Good luck against other players! Let me know how it goes!
Brilliant explanation to follow 😀
Thank you for the suggestions. I have an anti-spin player at my club. Heavy underspin is useless with him. (And side-spin as well) I think that less spin will give him less to work with. Thanks again.
Great content, enjoyed all your videos. Excellent breakdown of each component of the movement. I’ve only started playing in the last few years and serve return is definitely an area that I’m weak on- short touches and just reading serves and so on. Looking forward to videos where you get into this.
thanks! i appreciate you tuning in! serve return is one of the very hardest things to learn in table tennis. I have some scripts written out for serve return videos but I still need to make them to incorporate them into my channel. A quick tip for the short touches is to step in under the table and get your body and head physically close to the ball. That's one thing that helped my game immensely!
Great tutorial! One of my favorite serves.
Thanks Bruce! Mine too
A bit confused.. I understand that you're not using the wrist and eventually, when it reaches the other side of the table it will be topspin .. but from the looks of your serves when it reaches the opponent's side, it still has a lot of spin as I clearly see it curving. Can you help me understand it a bit more please. really appreciate your videos.
good job
Thanks!
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Nice video, Coach!
Thanks Alex! Looking forward to seeing you at the club again soon! Your serves better be rockin!!!
Great Videos! I’m having a lot of problems with simple low level serve where they serve arm extended to their side and they sweep across their body and either do a deep side spin backspin, or a side spin top spin. This really gives me trouble and often I do a passive block on the serve which is disastrous. How would you return these two serves? Thanks!
I see pendulum curve, how it can be no-spin serve?
Definitely sidespin on it
Thank you so much, well explained
Let me know how it goes in your game! Glad it was helpful!
Hi, another really well-explained video. One question: You did mention the possibility of hitting the bottom of rubber (near thumb) to get less spin. But as I tried to focus on your contact, I noticed for the no-spin you are also hitting the back-side of the rubber -- on the part of the racquet that is furthest from the net. Are you doing that on purpose as well to get less spin?
Thanks for the feedback! I'm not sure that I totally understand your question but I'll try to answer as best I can.
I know several players who adjust where they contact the ball on their racket; closer to the hand or further toward the tip of their racket. In general contacting the ball further toward the tip of the racket will generate more spin and contacting the ball closer to the hand will generate less spin. Personally in my game, I find this to be very difficult to control or to do with any sort of consistency so I don't personally focus on where I'm contacting the ball on my racket. I don't teach players not to try it but I also don't implement it in my game.
Another way to think about it is if you are using lots of wrist movement the outer tip of the racket will be moving faster than the inner part of your racket by your hand. If you don't have wrist movement then both the outer part of your racket and the inner part will be moving at about the same pace so your contact point on the racket won't matter much.
In general, I'd say that the wrist motion and grip you create between the ball and rubber will have a higher impact on the amount of spin you generate. The placement on the racket can also help if you're using lots of wrist, but without wrist movement it won't make a big difference. I have very little wrist movement with my dead ball serve so it won't make much of a difference where I contact the ball on my racket because it won't have any spin even if I contact it toward the tip of my racket. Hopefully this answers your question! If not, I'd love to give it another shot!
@@TableTennisJunkie Hi, thank you so much for taking the time to answer. I was afraid I wasn't being clear. I get you 100%. It is hard to explain. So you are talking up to down: from the tip of racket that moves more down to near the hand. My question is not about top to bottom, but from side to side. So when you do the backspin (or no-spin) serve, there is one side of racket that is closer to opponent (or net), and the backside which is closer to back wall behind you. I imagine if you are aiming for backspin you are hitting the side closer to net, so you give chance for ball to grip and slide a little. And from your slow-motion video, it looks like for no-spin you are hitting further back -- maybe to get less grip and impart less backspin? Another way to explain: I am not talking about the length of racket (from hand to tip), but about width of racket, from front side (closer to net) to back side. Just an added dimension of the serve I am asking about. If my question still makes no sense, for sure it is my fault, and I'll just stick to what I understand from your explanation. Thanks again!
Table Tennis Junkie Table Tennis Junkie I believe that the question is regarding the horizontal sections of the racket. For example In the video you talk about the vertical sections of the racket with less spin coming from the vertical section closest to your thumb. If you are right handed and serving. The question being asked is if there is a difference contacting the ball on the left side of the rubber vs the right. When this person references (the back side of the rubber farthest from the net) they are meaning the horizontal right side of the rubber. Will contacting the ball from the left side or right side of the racket change how much spin is imparted onto the ball? Does that make sense? Hopefully so. And since I am here anyways nice videos. I enjoy each one.
@@Megaboyd Exactly! Thank you for saying it in a clearer way. Yes, I wanted to know if that is also something to take into consideration when varying from the backspin to no-spin serve. I got a few pop-ups from my opponents today when I went from backspin to no-spin. Using no wrist and hitting underneath the ball really helped with the deception....so, great video!
I like your video instruction. However, it could have been even BETTER if you would have used a SPIN BALL (a table tennis ball with a LINE across its equator or a table tennis ball with each hemisphere having a different color) in order to video how the small amount of initial backspin served becomes NO-SPIN after bouncing twice before it finally reaches the opponent.
How can I receive this?