400 thousand dollars? I am truly blessed with having a backyard where I can shoot from my deck. "Free" dirt backstop, air ventilation, lighting, and even have a relaxing lunch at the same time.
Gosh it’s unfortunate but now days I almost think it would be more cost effective to build an indoor than buy property. At least up here in Idaho. Property isn’t as cheap as it used to be. I was looking at land just out of curiosity and saw one 1,000 acre property for sale for like 30,000,000
Reason why I love that my in-laws have a farm/hunting property to go do this - eventually I would love to have the land to be able to practice and teach my son more.
Me too but we were gunsmiths also so our single lane range was for gunsmith testing and firearm training purposes only. The only reason we didn’t open public range was the liability. Still Ngl. When I retired and sold the building the only thing that kept me awake at night was lead contamination concerns even though we did everything by the book. In the end my worries were for nothing. No problems.
@@onionhead5780Very cool. We were 07/SOT. We built rifles and test fires too, along with public usage. So, the lead issue was a real thing for us too. But, when we tested we always came up OK. Good circulation of air and filters really help.
I know a farmer that build his own for cheap. He got left over giant cement pipes used on a construction job. They are huge like 8 feet diameter. He dug a trench from his basement foundation out out to 100 yards with a back hoe. Then put them together and I think used asphalt sealer. Then opened up the basement wall and sealed the tube to the basement. Buried it and and did some drywall work inside. Done! It did leak a few times due to rain and poor seal. Maybe not enough rock fill or something. Over all it worked well enough.
That was my first thought as well. The concrete culvert pipes deal with the ballistic issue but do not mitigate the noise. If I am not mistaken, there was a gent in New Jersey, did similar, though he was not in a rural area. Neighbors kept complaining about some sort of noise. Jurisdiction found out about it and rained all kind of hurt on this gent. Then again, it was New Jersey.
@@michaelmiller5877 ? These were not culvert pipes they were 8 foot giant pipes and his land 100s of acres. ZERO sound could be heard as it was underground. His land his private underground range. You would never know it was there unless you were in his house.
@@michaelmiller5877 There is a range around Princeton that had used those giant pipes for their "high-powered" range. It has been many years since I was there, but from what I can recall there were significant restrictions on the use of the range and it wasn't particularly appealing.
@@Physics072They were still most likely culvert pipes sir. Yes they may have been RCP, but still the same usage. Idk why you’re so hostile towards the guy for just putting his two cents in. He even mentioned that he was aware the man in NJ wasn’t in a rural area. Be better.
@@zaycomage6888 Not sure what you are talking about. Hostile? Maybe you read another persons post. I was talking about friends indoor range and the size of the pipes. Zero hostilities.
your entire setup, rooms, range, and weapons are awesome. I could spend months in there and never leave. Just throw me some water and beef jerky every once in awhile. My gun room is only 12x8 and not nearly as nice.
I always enjoy watching the Collectors videos and dialogue all the time. Like I always say, if I get lucky enough to hit tonight's $977 million dollars, tomorrow night's $750 Powerball jackpot, or tomorrow night's $20 million Super Lotto jackpot I would totally live that man's life. It costs a whole lot of money 💲 to live the way this man and his crew live. God bless you all. 🙏 Take care fellas!
Awesome setup. If I could make one suggestion, painting the wall panels white would really help light transmission in the tunnel so it's not so dark. I don't think paint would interfere with the panels' function.
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Cool installation but let's be real about the topic. $80K for HVAC? Who did your SCFM calcs and spec'd the fan? There's concrete on the left wall so a poured wall on the right would be way less than AR500 steel. Certainly the ceiling would be an issue to cover. However, there's MULTIPLE ways to engieer the solutions than just "buying it." Bottom line... you can really, REALLY lower the cost if you look at options that aren't "industry provided" scope and if you have an engineering "friend" who could actually design it up. One example... build the retrieval system with a low cost servo motor and controller.
I do hvac, and 80k seems about right. This would be considered a commercial install. Of course...you can spec this out yourself if you know what to do, and install it for a lot less. But that's true of any trade. The thing is, most people don't really have a clue on how to do this themselves. Which is why we make the big bucks
@@theelite1x721987 I do hvac as well. 80k is extremely high for that install. I always get a kick out of those that use the, it’s commercial, to try and jack the price. I won’t even go down the path of how many pourly installed, and missized systems we replace.
@Charlie-go6eb hvac for a gun range is considered specialty. Osha regulations regarding air movement and filtration need followed. Special filters are installed to capture the lead and special procedures need followed to remove and dispose of them. I'm guessing you don't do commercial hvac. Anything in the commercial world that's under 100k is cheap. Your typical residential hvac company won't even touch this type of install.
@@theelite1x721987 I’m aware. We service a local range occassionally. And complete bs, anything commercial under a 100k is cheap. Just replaced 4 package units on a strip mall. Was no where near a 100k.
I think I'll just dig a 150 yard ditch 10 feet deep, throw up greenhouse paneling over it (tent style for rain/wind/ventilation measures), line the sides with retaining walls, and call it a day. Outdoor range I can use in nearly any weather. Bam. Spend the rest on more guns, ammo, and maintenance on the thing. (this is a very loose outline)
You can build for way less than what they are talking. I built a 2 lane range with nicer retrievers cameras for targets, I did do everything myself but it was 25% of his cost. The retrievers were a huge part of my cost. Steel was much cheaper when I bought but still doable for a lot less.
Me clicking on this video: Oh man! I do want to build a small range in my future home! Me after watching this video: I have gravely underestimated the cost.
It's not so much the cost as much as the bull shit requirements. Honestly if you're in a basement and you built a sub basement range you should be fine shooting into the earth and being covered by your concrete ceiling/basement floor above your head. Sure ventilation is important but all the bells and whistles not so much. We just live in an America where we aren't free anymore.
@@thisguy41487 well if they didn't have all the bs requirements you could get away with the red neck way of doing it a big ass fan behind you and some cheaper exhaust vents with fans up the other end. But you know regulations and stuff.
@@thisguy41487you might be able to retrofit a temporary ventilation solution, they have those window fittings that take the flex-tubing. Just have it set up where all you need to do is punch a hole thru the wall (or even a door) for a junction (would impact soundproofing). You pull out the window unit from the closet and run the tubing through the hallway to the junction and hook it up to that, un-do some binding holding your tubing out of the way in the "range" area and hook that up to the other side 😎
@@thisguy41487 The ventilation isn't pricy, it's the BS lead dust filtration and collection that's pricey. Lead dust on an outdoor range.... perfectly safe. Lead dust from an indoor range but 100% ventilated to the outdoors.... WHAT?? DO YOU WANT TO KILL THE CHILDREN!!
I used 100’ of 36” steel pipe and ran that off of my basement wall. Yes I have lighting, ventilation, and a target retrieval system. I’m about 20k into my range and it works great.
@@chrome2yourdome ouch! That’s too bad. Really I can shoot on my land but I work swing shift so I wanted a way to shoot at any time without bothering my neighbor. So an underground range was the best solution.
Sorry, hate to play the "architect card", and yes, and I don't often admit this, but I am a licensed architect, but one thing that is totally ignored in this is zoning and permitting. To do this in new construction, depending upon the location, jurisdiction, etc, you are probably going to hit roadblocks. More rural areas, as someone mentioned, just build yourself an outdoor range. I certainly think it is workable, obviously if you have the jack, you can do it. I would love it if a client ever came to me and said, "oh, by the way, I want to do an indoor shooting range in the basement"....
I have a client that is asking just that. I believe there is a niche market that can grow. Currently building a website to showcase our concepts with additional "amenities." Would love to collaborate.
amazing on the explination of why everything is done like that, make me appreciate the intricacy of indoor ranges where people shoot the roof all the time.
Used to do lead remediation at our 10 point range. We had the rubber pellets also. Starrted out with commercial equipment but up modifying or homebuilding every piece of equipment we used. As stated rakes and a huge commercial blower vac with, as I recall, about an 18' tube were used. Would take us most of the night to do one side (5 points) and finsih the other side the next weekend night. But we were running, I believe, 80,000 lbs of rubber per side. Also the rubber wasn't just piled against the wall. We had a framework that was stepped with traps at two different levels that could be opened from underneath on the horizontal steps. Also we built a walkway on the backside so we could stand and push the rubber down with rakes. We eventual found it was easiest to just push all the rubber onto the floor and vacuum it up thereby blowing back onto the framework. Using a crew of 6-8 people we eventuallly we able to clean five points in about 6 to 8 hours, half filling a 15 cubic foot dumpster.
Poormans Pistol Range: Bullet Trap * 27gal Tuff Tote * 5.5 bags of rubber mulch I used mine in my garage with suppressed pistols. Don't miss! My neighbor thinks I'm hammering something.
Have to agree with his one dislike.... Its also my biggest con to indoor ranges... LIGHTING. 90% of the ranges I've gone to SUCK out past 15-20 yards. In a day where LED and LED spotlights are cheap, why are they still using 8 ft tube lights, where 80% of the light is sucked up by the black coverings all around. Put a light on the shuttle to illuminate the targets.
I miss having the range outside my door. I am happy I left IL but I wake up everyday depressed that I had to give up the range. I really hope oneday to get money and buy land and build up a berm all over again. I miss ringing steel
Dude, having my own range would be one of my dreams come true. Im and always been a City Boy. However, i xould appreciate the.amazingly cool options i could have if 8 were to move to a rural area. It would truly be a dream to have a 2 - 4 acre peoperty in which i could build the sexiest❤ outdoor home range. Hence the acreage, so the range & house is far from any neighbors. 😅 Agreat job on your range. I truly appreciate your explanations, as your video points out lotta things i would have not even though about. Such as the range's structure, materials, ventilation system. Great video and Incredible range my dude 😎👍👌
Amazing to get to see not only your collection but also your range, seeing the guns work and everything from A-Z. Living in a country that's heavily regulated regarding weapons it's great to get to experience it on the screen - thanks for sharing your collection with the world. Would love to get to experience something like it and get to fire something more powerful than .22 caliber competition rifles and pistols.
Seems like you could fix your lighting issues with LEDs downrange; if they get shot, no big deal, but put them on the reverse side of the baffles so probably not a huge risk. Curious if you put any fire suppression in; I'd be worried about accumulating a lot of unburned powder, etc. if you don't routinely clean the range. For new construction, I assume concrete or dirt would be a lot cheaper than AR550. HVAC is still expensive (including operating costs).
Many decades ago when I was still working, I did a service call at a local PD. My contact showed me the basement gun range at the police station. It was awesome in that they also housed the confiscated criminal weapons there. Unfortunately, they didn't use it anymore because the health department closed it down due to lead contamination.
How much do you think for this setup: Indoor - 3 Lanes @ 6ft each with an extra 2 ft on either side for a rough total of 22 feet wide. I'm thinking 50 yard length, but possibly 100 yard max. This would be above ground, walls... ceiling etc would be 2 1/2 ft thick... along with whatever steel needed to handle 50 BMG. Full top of line system from Action Target (unless someone else offers anything better?). Independent ventilation system with heat and air. Steel-trap as I'm just not a fan of rubber. And of course any other added options that I might be missing or just would make for a better setup.
Cheaper Idea... Do not build the lane under the house. Build it under bare earth, with concrete on all sides, rubber on all sides, and a rubber backdrop. This will remove the need for steel. Assuming you have the land, but at a price of steel, it is a better investment for the land than the steel.
bonjour superbe vidéo explicative comment construire ou faire fabriquer un stand de tir dans sa maison j'ai beaucoup aimé cette vidéo qui ma appris beaucoup de choses vous avez vraiment des installations très sympathiques et pratique je vous remercie de se partage vidéo cordialement a bientôt
random thought, buy why not just get a cheapo spray gun and spray some rustoleum white over the black rubber? would likely help with the lighting a bit?
I looked into the company that built his range. I have the means, but at my age and the amount of use I would get from it, just couldn't justify the hassle of having it built. If I was 25 years younger, probably would have pulled the trigger on it. It's a shame that all the really cool stuff is so damn expensive.
Im curious if it would have been cheaper to form and pour concrete instead of using all the ar550 steel. I know concrete can be pretty expensive too especially when you have to bar so much to make it stronger. But got dayum thats alot of ar550 steel 😂
You take Cinder blocks and fill them with sand, it's significantly more cost effective than ar500 steel, the person in this vid just had money to spend and went high end which is perfectly fine, but if you're on a budget I recommend the concrete and sand combo.
trench in 2 40 ft shipping containers end to end and build them out. Already steel, 8ft x 8ft roughly inside. Seems it would save a couple hundred k just on the structure side of things.
It would be cheaper and more versatile to buy a country home with land and make an outside range. I know the weather would be a problem at times but dollar for dollar that is what I plan to consider.
when researching doomsday bunkers i found these presidential bunkers had bowling alleys as well as gun lanes..totally cool as is the collectors set up.my wildest dream!
When I was an electrician the company I worked for won the bid for the Hvac system In the CSI building In a big city in the North.I signed a disclosure contract so I cant say where the building is or anything about how the building is made or anything about impound or evidence rooms.I can however talk about the 2 lane firing range..Both lanes are steel reinforced concrete.If I remember correctly the lanes were 50 yards everything was top dollar because it was tax payer funded.
No matter how much it costs or how much work it is to get it done having a shooting range in your home is cool as shit. Unfortunately for me I would have to utilize a much less expensive set up with mother nature ventilation and an earth berm for back stop and sides. Nice range and cool video.
Yea, so if you’re thinking about building a one lane indoor range, you’re in luck, it’ll only cost you $1,000,000. Sounds pretty reasonable, and affordable in today’s economy.
I would think as long as you get your CFM exchange per your space per standards/specs for your range and to make site the supply and return are forced the correct direction with hepa filtration, it should be good? What fresh air and filters do you recommend? There has to be a way to buying all inexpensive and simply, filter, suction fan, air supply trunk and diffuser, etc.
Ventilation? I belonged to a gun club located in the basement of a gun shop. The ventilation was an old bathroom exhaust fan in the ceiling. We were only allowed to run it when the air got a bit cloudy.
I bet if you put egg crate foam behind the metal gub racks. It would help with reverberation and sound eco-ing with the mics. A lot of work for a slight improvement but an idea.
I am curious about the legality/permitting/etc side of it...here in Phoenix, discharging a firearm within however many feet (200? Something like that.) of a dwelling is a FELONY. EVEN IF IT WAS AN ACCIDENT!! Wonder how that would apply if you have something like this.
Are you going to update your lighting ? Seems like if you have the means and enjoy your quality time in the range why not .would make a great video 👍🇺🇸
Out of curiosity, what type of ventilation systems is required for this type of set up, do you need certain micron filters or just directional airflow? Follow-up question to that is what if you only shoot solid copper projectiles in it hypothetically?
Hepa filters are used. Even solid copper projectiles have gasses that need to be vented down range away from the shooter. It's just an inherent thing from firing a weapon. And, as he stated fresh air is bought in by the shooters and pulled down range to vent out through filters at the back of the range.
Most of the airborne lead comes from the primers, not the projectiles. Lead-free primers do exist but the vast majority of primers use lead-based priming compounds.
@@thepenultimateninja5797 What? I never knew this. So it's lead that I'm breathing when my eyes are burning and my head is engulfed in a cloud of gas after firing multiple magazines through a suppressed AR?
@@YFZriderdude15 Most of the gas is the products of the powder itself burning, but there is likely some lead in it too. Most modern primers use a priming compound called lead styphnate.
You don't really need any of this. We had a range in the basement growing up, literally a bunch of railroad timbers as a backstop. This is just the way to do it most expensively.
Depends on what you are shooting. If you shoot more powerful rounds those railroad ties get broke down pretty quick. Especially when you shoot in roughly the same spots. They also aren't that cheap anymore. You can save money by salvaging old ones but those are gonna get shot thru even faster
@@theelite1x721987 are you actually trying to sell the idea that replacing railroad ties every few months is more expensive than the range that was built on this video?
I have one question. I live on a property in south Florida where it's legal to shoot as long as you have a burm. Due to the rain, i have to keep buying dirt every couple months just to keep it safe. My question is, will you buy me a conex shooting range? Hahaha kidding, not kidding 😂 Thanks for the video. That's a sweet set up you have there. Maybe one day I'll have an actual range
So does concrete not function as ballistic material? One would think that the cheapest way to shield against stray bullets would be solid, poured concrete block or solid prestressed concrete walls. There’s not much that can shoot through a 12” inch thick concrete wall unless you’re gonna be shooting a 50 Cal in your home range. Frankly, also if the range is in your basement, then you actually have dirt walls on every side but the top, so the most critical place to put steel would be on the top to make sure you didn’t have any bullets go up through the floor. Other than that, nothing’s gonna come out from under the ground and get out as long as you have a concrete tube. I believe if you were building from scratch and they were pouring a basement that would 100% be the cheapest way to fabricate a range would be for them to build it out of block or poured walls as a tunnel within your basement with the concrete ceiling and everything and then you shouldn’t really need any steel except maybe for a slanted backstop to drop things into a water tank. And man the crazy talk about how expensive it needs to be to create a freaking water tank with an angled piece of AR 500 it shouldn’t need to cost 50 grand I mean that something any local welding shop could fabricate up for probably $5000 Plus the cost of the AR 500 plate. The tank doesn’t have to be made from hardened steel you could put a concrete wall in front of it to protect it from being shot.
What were the names of the 5 companies that build ranges? I’m developing a business plan for an indoor range and this video could’ve have came out at a better time!
The absurdity of this to me personally is over the top. As someone that is mostly forced to shoot indoors because we have zero open land to do so, the last thing I want to do is stand at shooting lane and shoot straight down my indoor range. I want a tactical outdoor range that involves moving and shooting, barricades, stationary vehicles, and so much more than anything you can get just standing at a lane and shooting. Being in North Dakota and having the land, this is nearly a waste. It's like having an outdoor racetrack outside where you could run a full nascar race but building an indoor Go Cart track and bragging about it. While I agree it's cool and nice to have, especially that close to a personal collection, it's not as exciting from an actual user wanting to have real fun...
Id like a 100 yd indore range for load development. Just bolt gun and maybe no wind zero on rifle. I was thinking of some way to use a 30 inch colvert for the tunnel ?
At this point it is more economical just to buy land and make an outdoor range
Safer too. Less lead exposure and hearing damage.
Yes but then it's not in your basement.
, but mine is right out my back door.
Unless you are in California lol... sigh.
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400 thousand dollars? I am truly blessed with having a backyard where I can shoot from my deck. "Free" dirt backstop, air ventilation, lighting, and even have a relaxing lunch at the same time.
I need this what state lol
Gosh it’s unfortunate but now days I almost think it would be more cost effective to build an indoor than buy property. At least up here in Idaho. Property isn’t as cheap as it used to be. I was looking at land just out of curiosity and saw one 1,000 acre property for sale for like 30,000,000
@uncut_oxygen6134 It must be some very prime land for that price. I have 25 acres of trees and rocks, and it's still cheaper than that indoor range.
Reason why I love that my in-laws have a farm/hunting property to go do this - eventually I would love to have the land to be able to practice and teach my son more.
@@rquest3059 it’s in northern Idaho, everything’s expensive
While I may never have the means to do this. Out of all the videos you’ve done THIS is the one I’m most intrigued by
I owned a gun shop with an indoor range. You guys covered it pretty well. Not a cheap endeavor.
Me too but we were gunsmiths also so our single lane range was for gunsmith testing and firearm training purposes only. The only reason we didn’t open public range was the liability. Still Ngl. When I retired and sold the building the only thing that kept me awake at night was lead contamination concerns even though we did everything by the book. In the end my worries were for nothing. No problems.
@@onionhead5780Very cool. We were 07/SOT. We built rifles and test fires too, along with public usage. So, the lead issue was a real thing for us too. But, when we tested we always came up OK. Good circulation of air and filters really help.
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I know a farmer that build his own for cheap. He got left over giant cement pipes used on a construction job. They are huge like 8 feet diameter. He dug a trench from his basement foundation out out to 100 yards with a back hoe. Then put them together and I think used asphalt sealer.
Then opened up the basement wall and sealed the tube to the basement. Buried it and and did some drywall work inside. Done!
It did leak a few times due to rain and poor seal. Maybe not enough rock fill or something. Over all it worked well enough.
That was my first thought as well. The concrete culvert pipes deal with the ballistic issue but do not mitigate the noise. If I am not mistaken, there was a gent in New Jersey, did similar, though he was not in a rural area. Neighbors kept complaining about some sort of noise. Jurisdiction found out about it and rained all kind of hurt on this gent. Then again, it was New Jersey.
@@michaelmiller5877 ? These were not culvert pipes they were 8 foot giant pipes and his land 100s of acres. ZERO sound could be heard as it was underground. His land his private underground range. You would never know it was there unless you were in his house.
@@michaelmiller5877 There is a range around Princeton that had used those giant pipes for their "high-powered" range. It has been many years since I was there, but from what I can recall there were significant restrictions on the use of the range and it wasn't particularly appealing.
@@Physics072They were still most likely culvert pipes sir. Yes they may have been RCP, but still the same usage. Idk why you’re so hostile towards the guy for just putting his two cents in. He even mentioned that he was aware the man in NJ wasn’t in a rural area. Be better.
@@zaycomage6888 Not sure what you are talking about. Hostile? Maybe you read another persons post. I was talking about friends indoor range and the size of the pipes. Zero hostilities.
Is the first time that I heard Johnny speak about something seriously 🤣
He knows his shit!!! Good video guys
your entire setup, rooms, range, and weapons are awesome. I could spend months in there and never leave. Just throw me some water and beef jerky every once in awhile. My gun room is only 12x8 and not nearly as nice.
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You guys have gun rooms?
You too can have one! I chose the room intended for the nursery... 15 years ago... prioritize.
Good ol abortions! @@kurtmason9489
I'd say this is one of your best video's to date. Plus, Johnny being serious, is a +1.
I always enjoy watching the Collectors videos and dialogue all the time. Like I always say, if I get lucky enough to hit tonight's $977 million dollars, tomorrow night's $750 Powerball jackpot, or tomorrow night's $20 million Super Lotto jackpot I would totally live that man's life.
It costs a whole lot of money 💲 to live the way this man and his crew live. God bless you all. 🙏
Take care fellas!
Good luck on those winning tickets. I sure will have the baddest indoor range if I win.
Awesome setup. If I could make one suggestion, painting the wall panels white would really help light transmission in the tunnel so it's not so dark. I don't think paint would interfere with the panels' function.
Nice to see Johnny being serious, and not such a goofball.
Makes him much more viable as a youtuber. Weird how that works huh.
VIABLE . . . WAVING around a freacking Monster drink can in the air makes you viable ????????????????? . . . I don't think so!!! ... More like trailer trash to me . . SMH . . . @@NopeAsaurusRex
Thats why I despise this other dood on Garand Thumb aswell.
Cool installation but let's be real about the topic. $80K for HVAC? Who did your SCFM calcs and spec'd the fan? There's concrete on the left wall so a poured wall on the right would be way less than AR500 steel. Certainly the ceiling would be an issue to cover. However, there's MULTIPLE ways to engieer the solutions than just "buying it." Bottom line... you can really, REALLY lower the cost if you look at options that aren't "industry provided" scope and if you have an engineering "friend" who could actually design it up. One example... build the retrieval system with a low cost servo motor and controller.
I agree that it could be done cheaper and still be safe.
I do hvac, and 80k seems about right. This would be considered a commercial install. Of course...you can spec this out yourself if you know what to do, and install it for a lot less. But that's true of any trade. The thing is, most people don't really have a clue on how to do this themselves. Which is why we make the big bucks
@@theelite1x721987 I do hvac as well. 80k is extremely high for that install. I always get a kick out of those that use the, it’s commercial, to try and jack the price. I won’t even go down the path of how many pourly installed, and missized systems we replace.
@Charlie-go6eb hvac for a gun range is considered specialty. Osha regulations regarding air movement and filtration need followed. Special filters are installed to capture the lead and special procedures need followed to remove and dispose of them. I'm guessing you don't do commercial hvac. Anything in the commercial world that's under 100k is cheap. Your typical residential hvac company won't even touch this type of install.
@@theelite1x721987 I’m aware. We service a local range occassionally. And complete bs, anything commercial under a 100k is cheap. Just replaced 4 package units on a strip mall. Was no where near a 100k.
I think I'll just dig a 150 yard ditch 10 feet deep, throw up greenhouse paneling over it (tent style for rain/wind/ventilation measures), line the sides with retaining walls, and call it a day. Outdoor range I can use in nearly any weather. Bam. Spend the rest on more guns, ammo, and maintenance on the thing.
(this is a very loose outline)
You can build for way less than what they are talking. I built a 2 lane range with nicer retrievers cameras for targets, I did do everything myself but it was 25% of his cost. The retrievers were a huge part of my cost. Steel was much cheaper when I bought but still doable for a lot less.
Me clicking on this video: Oh man! I do want to build a small range in my future home!
Me after watching this video: I have gravely underestimated the cost.
It's not so much the cost as much as the bull shit requirements. Honestly if you're in a basement and you built a sub basement range you should be fine shooting into the earth and being covered by your concrete ceiling/basement floor above your head. Sure ventilation is important but all the bells and whistles not so much. We just live in an America where we aren't free anymore.
@@rickyblake816 the ventilation is the only thing I'm worried about. It's puhh-RICEY
@@thisguy41487 well if they didn't have all the bs requirements you could get away with the red neck way of doing it a big ass fan behind you and some cheaper exhaust vents with fans up the other end. But you know regulations and stuff.
@@thisguy41487you might be able to retrofit a temporary ventilation solution, they have those window fittings that take the flex-tubing. Just have it set up where all you need to do is punch a hole thru the wall (or even a door) for a junction (would impact soundproofing). You pull out the window unit from the closet and run the tubing through the hallway to the junction and hook it up to that, un-do some binding holding your tubing out of the way in the "range" area and hook that up to the other side 😎
@@thisguy41487 The ventilation isn't pricy, it's the BS lead dust filtration and collection that's pricey. Lead dust on an outdoor range.... perfectly safe. Lead dust from an indoor range but 100% ventilated to the outdoors.... WHAT?? DO YOU WANT TO KILL THE CHILDREN!!
I used 100’ of 36” steel pipe and ran that off of my basement wall. Yes I have lighting, ventilation, and a target retrieval system. I’m about 20k into my range and it works great.
oohh good idea big ol steel pipe man that must be fun ,i need to drive 2hrs plus to go to range or 4hrs plus to go up mountain
Id love to see the system
@@chrome2yourdome ouch! That’s too bad. Really I can shoot on my land but I work swing shift so I wanted a way to shoot at any time without bothering my neighbor. So an underground range was the best solution.
your a good nnieghbor :D@@germanswede1781
Can we be friends??? lol
Wow, Johnny has a actual serious side? Very informative video, thanks!
What an interesting video. That is so cool to have an indoor range in your home.
Sorry, hate to play the "architect card", and yes, and I don't often admit this, but I am a licensed architect, but one thing that is totally ignored in this is zoning and permitting. To do this in new construction, depending upon the location, jurisdiction, etc, you are probably going to hit roadblocks. More rural areas, as someone mentioned, just build yourself an outdoor range. I certainly think it is workable, obviously if you have the jack, you can do it. I would love it if a client ever came to me and said, "oh, by the way, I want to do an indoor shooting range in the basement"....
I have a client that is asking just that. I believe there is a niche market that can grow. Currently building a website to showcase our concepts with additional "amenities." Would love to collaborate.
Zoning and permitting is for commies!
Bury a shipping container. Add ventilation, lights, and backstop.
amazing on the explination of why everything is done like that, make me appreciate the intricacy of indoor ranges where people shoot the roof all the time.
Finally Johnny is informative rather than annoying 🙏
Used to do lead remediation at our 10 point range. We had the rubber pellets also. Starrted out with commercial equipment but up modifying or homebuilding every piece of equipment we used. As stated rakes and a huge commercial blower vac with, as I recall, about an 18' tube were used. Would take us most of the night to do one side (5 points) and finsih the other side the next weekend night. But we were running, I believe, 80,000 lbs of rubber per side. Also the rubber wasn't just piled against the wall. We had a framework that was stepped with traps at two different levels that could be opened from underneath on the horizontal steps. Also we built a walkway on the backside so we could stand and push the rubber down with rakes. We eventual found it was easiest to just push all the rubber onto the floor and vacuum it up thereby blowing back onto the framework. Using a crew of 6-8 people we eventuallly we able to clean five points in about 6 to 8 hours, half filling a 15 cubic foot dumpster.
Poormans Pistol Range:
Bullet Trap
* 27gal Tuff Tote
* 5.5 bags of rubber mulch
I used mine in my garage with suppressed pistols. Don't miss! My neighbor thinks I'm hammering something.
Coating your walls with lead residue
Excavation is a big cost. Looks like a dark alley. I think a few $20 LED lighting bulbs shouldn't burst the budget.
Have to agree with his one dislike.... Its also my biggest con to indoor ranges... LIGHTING. 90% of the ranges I've gone to SUCK out past 15-20 yards.
In a day where LED and LED spotlights are cheap, why are they still using 8 ft tube lights, where 80% of the light is sucked up by the black coverings all around.
Put a light on the shuttle to illuminate the targets.
I miss having the range outside my door. I am happy I left IL but I wake up everyday depressed that I had to give up the range. I really hope oneday to get money and buy land and build up a berm all over again. I miss ringing steel
Dude, having my own range would be one of my dreams come true. Im and always been a City Boy. However, i xould appreciate the.amazingly cool options i could have if 8 were to move to a rural area. It would truly be a dream to have a 2 - 4 acre peoperty in which i could build the sexiest❤ outdoor home range. Hence the acreage, so the range & house is far from any neighbors. 😅
Agreat job on your range. I truly appreciate your explanations, as your video points out lotta things i would have not even though about. Such as the range's structure, materials, ventilation system. Great video and Incredible range my dude 😎👍👌
Seems like you could sink some cargo containers underground and do concrete walls with a rubber trap.
Conex containers should not be buried. Period. I used concrete culverts.
Amazing to get to see not only your collection but also your range, seeing the guns work and everything from A-Z.
Living in a country that's heavily regulated regarding weapons it's great to get to experience it on the screen - thanks for sharing your collection with the world.
Would love to get to experience something like it and get to fire something more powerful than .22 caliber competition rifles and pistols.
Seems like you could fix your lighting issues with LEDs downrange; if they get shot, no big deal, but put them on the reverse side of the baffles so probably not a huge risk.
Curious if you put any fire suppression in; I'd be worried about accumulating a lot of unburned powder, etc. if you don't routinely clean the range.
For new construction, I assume concrete or dirt would be a lot cheaper than AR550. HVAC is still expensive (including operating costs).
This is cool
But I’d rather have something like Hickok45, imagine that being your back yard
Many decades ago when I was still working, I did a service call at a local PD. My contact showed me the basement gun range at the police station. It was awesome in that they also housed the confiscated criminal weapons there. Unfortunately, they didn't use it anymore because the health department closed it down due to lead contamination.
Great video GOD bless you and your whole family.
I'm glad people like you exist
How much do you think for this setup: Indoor - 3 Lanes @ 6ft each with an extra 2 ft on either side for a rough total of 22 feet wide. I'm thinking 50 yard length, but possibly 100 yard max. This would be above ground, walls... ceiling etc would be 2 1/2 ft thick... along with whatever steel needed to handle 50 BMG. Full top of line system from Action Target (unless someone else offers anything better?). Independent ventilation system with heat and air. Steel-trap as I'm just not a fan of rubber. And of course any other added options that I might be missing or just would make for a better setup.
Now you gotta make a video on how to acquire the money. Legally lol
I tend NOT to go to my local gun range in the summer. They are cheap and the heat is unbearable. Most of Puerto Rico indoor ranges are.
"Catching the splatter "is WIIILLLLLDDDDDD
It would seem lighting would be the easiest and cheapest feature to upgrade. Great project, good video.
Or semi underground, miners style shooting range
Cheaper Idea... Do not build the lane under the house. Build it under bare earth, with concrete on all sides, rubber on all sides, and a rubber backdrop. This will remove the need for steel. Assuming you have the land, but at a price of steel, it is a better investment for the land than the steel.
This is amazing!!! When I win the lottery this is the first thing I’m buying. Then I’m going to go broke on ammo.
I like the outside. Although if I ever move north again indoors could make sense.
I left after you said ventilation was 80k. I'd rather have lead poisoning
bonjour superbe vidéo explicative comment construire ou faire fabriquer un stand de tir dans sa maison j'ai beaucoup aimé cette vidéo qui ma appris beaucoup de choses vous avez vraiment des installations très sympathiques et pratique je vous remercie de se partage vidéo cordialement a bientôt
random thought, buy why not just get a cheapo spray gun and spray some rustoleum white over the black rubber? would likely help with the lighting a bit?
We all appreciate what you do by bringing us into your home. I enjoy the hell outta your videos. Let me know if your up to adopting a grown ass man.
I looked into the company that built his range. I have the means, but at my age and the amount of use I would get from it, just couldn't justify the hassle of having it built. If I was 25 years younger, probably would have pulled the trigger on it. It's a shame that all the really cool stuff is so damn expensive.
Is it just me that love hearing people just casually talk about things they know a lot about like it’s nothing
Mr. Piggy didn’t convince me at all!
I'm too poor for this. I'm happy you can have this for yourself😊
Did you have to get permits?
80k for hvac? Is it pure silver duct work with an AI controller? Sounds like the installer made 60k on that job
Love to see the channel blowing up 💪🏼
Im curious if it would have been cheaper to form and pour concrete instead of using all the ar550 steel. I know concrete can be pretty expensive too especially when you have to bar so much to make it stronger. But got dayum thats alot of ar550 steel 😂
You take Cinder blocks and fill them with sand, it's significantly more cost effective than ar500 steel, the person in this vid just had money to spend and went high end which is perfectly fine, but if you're on a budget I recommend the concrete and sand combo.
trench in 2 40 ft shipping containers end to end and build them out. Already steel, 8ft x 8ft roughly inside. Seems it would save a couple hundred k just on the structure side of things.
It would be cheaper and more versatile to buy a country home with land and make an outside range. I know the weather would be a problem at times but dollar for dollar that is what I plan to consider.
when researching doomsday bunkers i found these presidential bunkers had bowling alleys as well as gun lanes..totally cool as is the collectors set up.my wildest dream!
When I was an electrician the company I worked for won the bid for the Hvac system In the CSI building In a big city in the North.I signed a disclosure contract so I cant say where the building is or anything about how the building is made or anything about impound or evidence rooms.I can however talk about the 2 lane firing range..Both lanes are steel reinforced concrete.If I remember correctly the lanes were 50 yards everything was top dollar because it was tax payer funded.
Is part of the range underground? Hard to imagine a 90' structure jutting out from your house. Interesting video! Thanks!
I believe his house is 8000 square feet. Pretty sure it’s all underground
No matter how much it costs or how much work it is to get it done having a shooting range in your home is cool as shit. Unfortunately for me I would have to utilize a much less expensive set up with mother nature ventilation and an earth berm for back stop and sides. Nice range and cool video.
Yea, so if you’re thinking about building a one lane indoor range, you’re in luck, it’ll only cost you $1,000,000. Sounds pretty reasonable, and affordable in today’s economy.
Thanks for this! I have been wondering what it all takes, and it’s honestly not as bad as I imagined.
I would think as long as you get your CFM exchange per your space per standards/specs for your range and to make site the supply and return are forced the correct direction with hepa filtration, it should be good?
What fresh air and filters do you recommend?
There has to be a way to buying all inexpensive and simply, filter, suction fan, air supply trunk and diffuser, etc.
I went with the 500k ventilation system in my range. Wanted that piece of mind ya know.
Ventilation? I belonged to a gun club located in the basement of a gun shop. The ventilation was an old bathroom exhaust fan in the ceiling. We were only allowed to run it when the air got a bit cloudy.
This is bad ass. Not practical for the middle class, but bad ass.
First thing is to have a basement, then let your imagination run wild you can do it i did. Money isn't a factor how much time & effort is
Excellent video. Very very informative. Great job!
Do you have any virtual shooting? I've been playing with AceXR. Curious what you think.
That was a great breakdown.
I bet if you put egg crate foam behind the metal gub racks. It would help with reverberation and sound eco-ing with the mics. A lot of work for a slight improvement but an idea.
I am curious about the legality/permitting/etc side of it...here in Phoenix, discharging a firearm within however many feet (200? Something like that.) of a dwelling is a FELONY. EVEN IF IT WAS AN ACCIDENT!! Wonder how that would apply if you have something like this.
what is that company that everyone uses for ventilation?
John Boy is so good! 🎓👍🏽
What ventilation company did you go with?
“Lead will kill you” sips a monster.
That is bad ass I want a range now . My wife’s going to be pissed lol
Are you going to update your lighting ? Seems like if you have the means and enjoy your quality time in the range why not .would make a great video 👍🇺🇸
Cheapest way to do it you ask? Don't tell anyone your building a range. 👍
What does this guy do for work?
Out of curiosity, what type of ventilation systems is required for this type of set up, do you need certain micron filters or just directional airflow? Follow-up question to that is what if you only shoot solid copper projectiles in it hypothetically?
Hepa filters are used. Even solid copper projectiles have gasses that need to be vented down range away from the shooter. It's just an inherent thing from firing a weapon. And, as he stated fresh air is bought in by the shooters and pulled down range to vent out through filters at the back of the range.
Most of the airborne lead comes from the primers, not the projectiles. Lead-free primers do exist but the vast majority of primers use lead-based priming compounds.
@@thepenultimateninja5797 What? I never knew this. So it's lead that I'm breathing when my eyes are burning and my head is engulfed in a cloud of gas after firing multiple magazines through a suppressed AR?
@@YFZriderdude15 Most of the gas is the products of the powder itself burning, but there is likely some lead in it too.
Most modern primers use a priming compound called lead styphnate.
@@thepenultimateninja5797 Interesting, thanks. I never really knew what was in that gas. It just burned my eyes.
let me brak it down, get some Metal spare parts, Bolts, Screw nuts, and make sure you have Illumination Lv. 1. and there ya go!
Step 1- afford a house
Still waiting for the collector to take out a bow on that range and shoot arrows, turkish bow using thumb draw.
You don't really need any of this.
We had a range in the basement growing up, literally a bunch of railroad timbers as a backstop.
This is just the way to do it most expensively.
Depends on what you are shooting. If you shoot more powerful rounds those railroad ties get broke down pretty quick. Especially when you shoot in roughly the same spots. They also aren't that cheap anymore. You can save money by salvaging old ones but those are gonna get shot thru even faster
@@theelite1x721987 are you actually trying to sell the idea that replacing railroad ties every few months is more expensive than the range that was built on this video?
I have one question. I live on a property in south Florida where it's legal to shoot as long as you have a burm. Due to the rain, i have to keep buying dirt every couple months just to keep it safe.
My question is, will you buy me a conex shooting range?
Hahaha kidding, not kidding 😂
Thanks for the video. That's a sweet set up you have there. Maybe one day I'll have an actual range
So does concrete not function as ballistic material? One would think that the cheapest way to shield against stray bullets would be solid, poured concrete block or solid prestressed concrete walls. There’s not much that can shoot through a 12” inch thick concrete wall unless you’re gonna be shooting a 50 Cal in your home range. Frankly, also if the range is in your basement, then you actually have dirt walls on every side but the top, so the most critical place to put steel would be on the top to make sure you didn’t have any bullets go up through the floor. Other than that, nothing’s gonna come out from under the ground and get out as long as you have a concrete tube. I believe if you were building from scratch and they were pouring a basement that would 100% be the cheapest way to fabricate a range would be for them to build it out of block or poured walls as a tunnel within your basement with the concrete ceiling and everything and then you shouldn’t really need any steel except maybe for a slanted backstop to drop things into a water tank. And man the crazy talk about how expensive it needs to be to create a freaking water tank with an angled piece of AR 500 it shouldn’t need to cost 50 grand I mean that something any local welding shop could fabricate up for probably $5000 Plus the cost of the AR 500 plate. The tank doesn’t have to be made from hardened steel you could put a concrete wall in front of it to protect it from being shot.
What's the cheapest possible, safe range at 20 yards long, 5 feet wide??? Oddly specific, I know Lol really curious.
What was your job. Before you became the collector,
I think this is very impressive that hallway looks so long crazy
What were the names of the 5 companies that build ranges? I’m developing a business plan for an indoor range and this video could’ve have came out at a better time!
Definitely some cool stuff! Very bad ass
The absurdity of this to me personally is over the top. As someone that is mostly forced to shoot indoors because we have zero open land to do so, the last thing I want to do is stand at shooting lane and shoot straight down my indoor range. I want a tactical outdoor range that involves moving and shooting, barricades, stationary vehicles, and so much more than anything you can get just standing at a lane and shooting. Being in North Dakota and having the land, this is nearly a waste. It's like having an outdoor racetrack outside where you could run a full nascar race but building an indoor Go Cart track and bragging about it. While I agree it's cool and nice to have, especially that close to a personal collection, it's not as exciting from an actual user wanting to have real fun...
Nice and Affordable sweet!
Nice range. Was there any permits or regulations in your local area that add to the headache and cost of building it?
Id like a 100 yd indore range for load development. Just bolt gun and maybe no wind zero on rifle. I was thinking of some way to use a 30 inch colvert for the tunnel ?
This is not a relateable expenditure for majority of normal people.