Got a free “360” from one of my dad’s buddy, got to tearing it down ordering parts only to realize the oil pan gasket I ordered was not the same as what I took off… odd. So finally I checked the numbers and it’s a 318. The only thing I’ve orders so far that won’t work is the flywheel luckily. Glad I remembered this video as it helped me double check.
at 4:38 of your video under the negative ground engine electrical wire with the screw directly on the engine block near the rusty area clean it with a brush you will see the number 318 or 360 on it
The 318 intake has a small carburator mounting mounting pattern, than the 360. For the 2 barrel carburetor. The 318 will probably have a Carter bb2. On it. Never had any luck with them running good. The intake are interchangable. I put the a 360 manifold on 318 so I could use the bigger holly 2 barrel. Never had a problem since.
I've had my '91 Dodge W150 since 2008. It wasn't until today, 16 YEARS LATER, that I realized I do NOT have a 318, but a 360. I saw the vacuum diagram under the hood by chance and saw, very distinctly, 5.9L. To say I was confused would be an understatement... How have I missed it all these years?! I frantically tore through my manual to find out how to identify it. First, the VIN method. 8th letter of the vin is a Z, which tells me 5.9L EFI 360. Then, the method mentioned above and checking the stamp on the block. So, on my creeper with a wire brush and brake cleaner spray, I reveal the number ending in 3... 6... 0... 16 years, I've been under the impression it was a 318. Of course, I learn this NOW, right in the middle of my over-haul. I bought a new radiator, fan clutch, water pump, timing chain, power steering pump, and harmonic balancer, all for a 318... I feel about an inch tall. Thankfully, most of those parts are interchangeable. I do need to return the harmonic balancer and get one for a 360, but everything else looks the same as the old parts. Holy hell, I am one DUMB S.O.B. God bless, I feel like a complete dunce. I hope everyone reading this has a good laugh at my expense. I'm sure I'll laugh about it someday, but right now, I want to cry. What a bonehead... 🤦♂️☹️
Hey, BIG thanks 👍. I'm looking at a nice barn find 73 Dodge pickup (D10? D100? The bloody vin seems useless) and I was 90% sure it was a 318, but now, thanks to you pointing out those finned exhaust manifolds, I'm thinking I might have found a 360. Huzzah!
So I just bought a 86 Dodge Ram D150 Royal SE 2WD . I’m the third owner . Guy I got it from says it’s a 5.2L/ 318 . It has a heavy duty 727 transmission with cooler ( truck was built with tow package, camper special and snow plow prep group which entailed a 9.25 “ Chrysler differential with a 4.10 gear , heavy duty leaf springs and shocks , beefed up front coils and shocks and 16” wheels with 11” drums and rotors . Funny thing is it has those ribbed cooling fins on the exhaust manifolds . Exhaust is not original, and catalytic converter is gone , so there’s been some work done to it over the years . Maybe the original owner put a set of 360 exhaust manifolds on it ? ( why would he do that ? Do the 360 manifolds have better air flow than 318 manifolds ?) Or did Chrysler perhaps make the 318 with those ribbed cooling fins in 1986 ? Or MAYBE I need to crawl under there and look at the casting numbers on the block and see if it is a 360 and the guy I bought it from didn’t actually know what it was ! It is an LA motor with 5 hole valve covers … now I gotta go back out and look at the harmonic balancer and block castings BRB …
@@SKYNET9er It’s a 318 . All original ( according to the owner I bought it from) So I guess Chrysler used these ribbed exhaust manifolds on 318 engines as well .
The easiest and most definitive way to tell is to look at the engine serial number on the front of the block under the driver side head. It's very easy to get to with a brush to read and outright says 318 or 360. Manifolds and intake won't tell you much since many 318s came with 360 heads and manifolds in the 80s, my police car has them.
You mean the casting number on the driver's side, down under the exhaust manifold? "Easy to get to" would not be the words I'd use for that. Big blocks do have the displacement stamped on a pad by the distributor at the front, but that's not a 318 or 360
@@YoshimoshiGarage No, small blocks also have it stamped at the front of the engine, next to the water pump under the head. The serial number, for example, would be something like 1M31802160086 in the case of my engine which is 1 for 1981, M for mound road engine plant, 318 for the displacement, 0216 for february 16 and 0086 for the 86th engine assembled that day. Big blocks also have a serial number in a similar format on the starter rail near the transmission.
I crawked under ny truck with a flashlight and a measuring tape. Mine very definitely measures 1 1/4 thick but is all flat in the front with 1 hole. Maybe it is an after market one with the groove in the back?
Kind of off topic, but I always wondered what the number stickers on the valve covers meant on the 360s. Looks like the one in your video is 449 while mine says 836.
I know my engine is a 318. It has a TBI manifold from 87 but the valve cover seem to be the same as on your 360. I’m wondering if my engine is some kind of frankenstein…
The 318 has a rather small 2bbl carb. The 360 2bbl carb is quite a bit bigger, like the 2bbl on a 400. I guess that only works if no one has put a 4bbl intake on it.
AFAIK, the ribbed exhaust manifolds and the dampener are the biggest giveaways. Not quite 100% definitive and assuming it wasn't cobbled together from other dearly departed mopars. As he says, check the casting numbers to be sure.
Why go thru all that trouble look at the number in front of the starter it will tell ya then look on the other side under the manifold it will tell ya the m/d/y of casting
Mopar is the term for vehicles made by the Chrysler Corporation (Dodge, Chrysler and Plymouth), though through the years it expanded as they purchased or got purchased by other companies. Some consider Jeep to be a Mopar brand. You could even argue that Fiat is.
You know there's this thing called RUclips where you can post your own video showing us all how smart you are? "Do ur homework" is the rally cry of the lazy.
@@YoshimoshiGarage I owned one u probably did to I owned few of the Canada mopars or chyyser s Oklahoma was a doing ground for cars when u went to get parts for a Canada car napa only one that carries parts mopars made in USA want work end storyline
@@greedo2660 we had Chrysler networker 8o model it was a candian 318 fuel pump was diffent other parts to ilike gamble put some cash up or hush up Canadian 318 is differ than us enf story
Got a free “360” from one of my dad’s buddy, got to tearing it down ordering parts only to realize the oil pan gasket I ordered was not the same as what I took off… odd. So finally I checked the numbers and it’s a 318. The only thing I’ve orders so far that won’t work is the flywheel luckily. Glad I remembered this video as it helped me double check.
at 4:38 of your video under the negative ground engine electrical wire with the screw directly on the engine block near the rusty area clean it with a brush you will see the number 318 or 360 on it
Never knew about the manifolds, alway went by the balancer and casting# of course
The 318 intake has a small carburator mounting mounting pattern, than the 360. For the 2 barrel carburetor. The 318 will probably have a Carter bb2. On it. Never had any luck with them running good. The intake are interchangable. I put the a 360 manifold on 318 so I could use the bigger holly 2 barrel. Never had a problem since.
I bought a new/rebuilt 2 bbl. for my 318 from summit racing years ago. She chirped 2nd gear in my 78' d-100 short bed with the auto trans.
I've had my '91 Dodge W150 since 2008. It wasn't until today, 16 YEARS LATER, that I realized I do NOT have a 318, but a 360. I saw the vacuum diagram under the hood by chance and saw, very distinctly, 5.9L. To say I was confused would be an understatement... How have I missed it all these years?! I frantically tore through my manual to find out how to identify it. First, the VIN method. 8th letter of the vin is a Z, which tells me 5.9L EFI 360. Then, the method mentioned above and checking the stamp on the block. So, on my creeper with a wire brush and brake cleaner spray, I reveal the number ending in 3... 6... 0...
16 years, I've been under the impression it was a 318. Of course, I learn this NOW, right in the middle of my over-haul. I bought a new radiator, fan clutch, water pump, timing chain, power steering pump, and harmonic balancer, all for a 318... I feel about an inch tall. Thankfully, most of those parts are interchangeable. I do need to return the harmonic balancer and get one for a 360, but everything else looks the same as the old parts. Holy hell, I am one DUMB S.O.B. God bless, I feel like a complete dunce. I hope everyone reading this has a good laugh at my expense. I'm sure I'll laugh about it someday, but right now, I want to cry. What a bonehead... 🤦♂️☹️
Hey, BIG thanks 👍. I'm looking at a nice barn find 73 Dodge pickup (D10? D100? The bloody vin seems useless) and I was 90% sure it was a 318, but now, thanks to you pointing out those finned exhaust manifolds, I'm thinking I might have found a 360. Huzzah!
Me too!
So I just bought a 86 Dodge Ram D150 Royal SE 2WD .
I’m the third owner . Guy I got it from says it’s a 5.2L/ 318 . It has a heavy duty 727 transmission with cooler ( truck was built with tow package, camper special and snow plow prep group which entailed a 9.25 “ Chrysler differential with a 4.10 gear , heavy duty leaf springs and shocks , beefed up front coils and shocks and 16” wheels with 11” drums and rotors .
Funny thing is it has those ribbed cooling fins on the exhaust manifolds .
Exhaust is not original, and catalytic converter is gone , so there’s been some work done to it over the years .
Maybe the original owner put a set of 360 exhaust manifolds on it ? ( why would he do that ? Do the 360 manifolds have better air flow than 318 manifolds ?)
Or did Chrysler perhaps make the 318 with those ribbed cooling fins in 1986 ?
Or MAYBE I need to crawl under there and look at the casting numbers on the block and see if it is a 360 and the guy I bought it from didn’t actually know what it was !
It is an LA motor with 5 hole valve covers … now I gotta go back out and look at the harmonic balancer and block castings BRB …
Well? What did you find out? 318 or 360?
@@SKYNET9er It’s a 318 . All original ( according to the owner I bought it from)
So I guess Chrysler used these ribbed exhaust manifolds on 318 engines as well .
The easiest and most definitive way to tell is to look at the engine serial number on the front of the block under the driver side head. It's very easy to get to with a brush to read and outright says 318 or 360. Manifolds and intake won't tell you much since many 318s came with 360 heads and manifolds in the 80s, my police car has them.
You mean the casting number on the driver's side, down under the exhaust manifold? "Easy to get to" would not be the words I'd use for that. Big blocks do have the displacement stamped on a pad by the distributor at the front, but that's not a 318 or 360
@@YoshimoshiGarage No, small blocks also have it stamped at the front of the engine, next to the water pump under the head. The serial number, for example, would be something like 1M31802160086 in the case of my engine which is 1 for 1981, M for mound road engine plant, 318 for the displacement, 0216 for february 16 and 0086 for the 86th engine assembled that day. Big blocks also have a serial number in a similar format on the starter rail near the transmission.
There is also differences in the bosses for the motor mounts. 360 has bigger ones then the 318
I crawked under ny truck with a flashlight and a measuring tape. Mine very definitely measures 1 1/4 thick but is all flat in the front with 1 hole. Maybe it is an after market one with the groove in the back?
Thanks for the info! I'm so excited! I've got a 360! AND a 318! And it's highly modified 🤑
Kind of off topic, but I always wondered what the number stickers on the valve covers meant on the 360s.
Looks like the one in your video is 449 while mine says 836.
2 barrel intakes and carbs are different between 318 and 360
Both kick ass.
I'm one of those guys that put 360 exhaust manifolds on my 318. But I knew it was a 318.
I know my engine is a 318. It has a TBI manifold from 87 but the valve cover seem to be the same as on your 360. I’m wondering if my engine is some kind of frankenstein…
318 and 360 valve covers are the same
They have different engine mount tabs on side of the block
The 318 has a rather small 2bbl carb. The 360 2bbl carb is quite a bit bigger, like the 2bbl on a 400. I guess that only works if no one has put a 4bbl intake on it.
Great info. Thanks for your knowledge.
Do the 318 and the 360 use the same spark plugs? I have a 1997 B3500 Ram Van
Yes, same plugs
Or you could just check the other number on the face of the block under the drivers side head, very easy to see!
If it existed, I certainly could.
Thanks man I really learned so much from you it's a great video I appreciate it so much awesome keep up the good work
318. They are almost as tough as a slant!
Under driver side head front
I got a 79 power wagon but my engine have 3 bolts on it what would it be just asking
Where are the bolts? Top front of the engine?
2 of them up by the fan and one behind the other ones
Probably for an old A/C compressor
Great info. Thanks
AFAIK, the ribbed exhaust manifolds and the dampener are the biggest giveaways. Not quite 100% definitive and assuming it wasn't cobbled together from other dearly departed mopars. As he says, check the casting numbers to be sure.
Great. Thanks
Why go thru all that trouble look at the number in front of the starter it will tell ya then look on the other side under the manifold it will tell ya the m/d/y of casting
Maybe because that's usually covered by an exhaust manifold, brake booster, frame and inner fenderwell?
360 will have a large cutout on the balancer
It's easy, I look at it for 2 seconds. It's a 360 with a 500 cf. M2 barrel.
Thanks, very good I.D.
I bought a 360 from a RV , got home an it had rib exhaust manifold but the block had 318 on it ,, what a let down..
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👍 And yet the valve cover says 440. Lol
For assembly line use. NOT a 440
It says 443 not 440 . Just an assembly nomenclature sticker .
O que é mopar??
Mopar is the term for vehicles made by the Chrysler Corporation (Dodge, Chrysler and Plymouth), though through the years it expanded as they purchased or got purchased by other companies. Some consider Jeep to be a Mopar brand. You could even argue that Fiat is.
@@YoshimoshiGarage obrigado! Aqui do Brasil.
Lokks like an eighties 318
Thick and grooved!
318
They made cananidian 318 340 360 400 do ur homework Canada mopars we're completely different
You know there's this thing called RUclips where you can post your own video showing us all how smart you are? "Do ur homework" is the rally cry of the lazy.
@@YoshimoshiGarage I owned one u probably did to I owned few of the Canada mopars or chyyser s Oklahoma was a doing ground for cars when u went to get parts for a Canada car napa only one that carries parts mopars made in USA want work end storyline
@@Jesse-lu7bt Sounds like you could have benefited by doing some homework.
@@greedo2660 we had Chrysler networker 8o model it was a candian 318 fuel pump was diffent other parts to ilike gamble put some cash up or hush up Canadian 318 is differ than us enf story
@@Jesse-lu7bt Got it. Sorry for being snarky.