Thanks for making a great video. I am 66 and have been using Coleman stoves for 40 years. I have 5 of them. I give them to young guys who are starting into the camping scene.
@icy purple thank you. I find Coleman stoves at Garage sales in Upscale neighborhoods......hardly used. Dual fuel $15-20 bucks. Red tank $10. Most people in upscale neighborhoods stay in hotels but may have had to go camping with their kids on a church or scout outing a couple of times.
@@uscgalpha91 I am with you Brother. I am 65. My daughter and I hope to not be my Son in Law just went camping for the first time. She asked for my/our family's 413G stove. I had purchased one of the new Coleman stoves at a garage sale that had never been used: Brand new in the box. I gave her that one. If the camping goes well, I will restore a 413 for them and a couple of 220F lanterns as Christmas gifts, but I did not want my family 413 going on this "First camping date" so to speak.
Found one in my parents basement covered in dust. When I asked him when he got it he said he first took it hunting the weekend Mr Kennedy was shot. It still works!!!
crazy enough, these are not just for car-camping.. when i was a boy scout in the 70's we frequently packed these stoves in on overnight hikes that were less than 5 miles, and always brought them along on winter hikes where we would build igloos and sleep in them overnight. in those days we had external frame packs so it was easy to strap a coleman on the back. of course, not all of us packed in a stove, we shared gear so someone else packed in the cooking pots, someone else packed in the food, etc. etc. we packed in our personal stuff and shared the troop gear. if you run these exclusively on white gas/coleman fuel, the generator will last a lifetime and will never need to be cleaned or replaced. if you burn auto gas in one, be prepared to learn how to disassemble and clean or replace the generator and pack along the tools and parts you might need. these things are built like tanks and are very hard to kill unless you make a deliberate effort to do so.
I remember do the same in boy scouts with these stoves for both camping trips that took a hike out into the woods and camping right out of the trailer. These stoves worked great for cooking and the Coleman lanterns worked great too. I recently inherited my grandpa's 426 3 burner stove from the 60s, still works great.
A few corrections for the sake of clarity: All though evaporation of liquid fuel does occur in the long tube coming out of the tank valve, after a short period of heating from exposure to the main burner flame, this tube is actually called a Generator. It “generates” gas by evaporating liquid fuel. Useful to know if looking for replacement parts. The lighting lever that you turn up when first lighting the stove, & then down about a minute later, (some times a bit longer if it is freezing cold outside), is not a cleaning device. This is a confusion from the days when Coleman lanterns had a similar appearing lever that Was a cleaning device. Those lantern manuals would instruct you to rotate the lever several times to clean the generator tube, & jet, (jet = small opening that allows fuel to exit the generator). The stove lever instead, just alters the fuel / pressurized air mixture ratio. In the up, “lighting” position, this causes some of the compressed air in the tank to be mixed in to the liquid fuel, in the valve body. This helps to turn the fuel into a mist upon exiting the jet, and entering the burner assembly, making natural evaporation, & subsequent combustion, easier during start up. After the generator is hot enough to vaporize the fuel before it exits the jet, the lighting lever can be turned down, which cuts off any compressed tank air from being mixed into the fuel, & instead allows the pressure to just supply liquid fuel to the generator. This means that compressed tank air is used faster during start up, vs. under normal operation with lighting lever turned down. This is also why the stove instructions advise you to add about 30 more pumps of air to the tank, following completion of the start up processes. When fueling the tank using the red plastic Coleman filter funnel, the orientation of the tank shown in this video is incorrect, you should place the tank on a flat level surface, right side up. Place & orient the funnel so that the angled lip of the funnel is as close to parallel with the ground as possible, which will best allow the funnel to function as designed. It is supposed to stop filling when the tank fuel level reaches the max. allowed, while still leaving room for air pressure to be added. When the funnel stops draining into the tank, you withdraw it slowly, & this allows the last bit of fuel to fill the tank correctly. That’s the theory any way. In practice, this can be tricky. If you use this, or any funnel, to fill the tank when resting on it’s rear seam and valve knob, then you can end up over filling it, & not leave enough air space to pressurize the tank, so fill it using this method in small increments. These are great stoves, & with one of the available propane adapters, ( Stansport, Texsport, Coghlans, etc.), the versatility can’t be beat for car camping, off grid living, or survival.
Thanks, better than the video! I just purchased a used one. Can't find the date stamp but the box mentions $1.25/gal gasoline :-) Mine has a copper rings heat exchanger on the generator exit, presumably to better vaporize gasoline. Additions to your input: Full tank burn time listed at 1.5 hrs both burners on full. Don't turn burner higher than flame wrapping around pot. Use lids. I'm a little suspicious that Coleman had to lengthen the generator to burn unleaded and then marketed it as bigger and better. Even as old (but used little) as I suspect mine is, it had a struggling plastic air pump cup. I upgraded to leather. Great stove. No reason basic models can't burn unleaded but I suspect at lower heat output. Enjoy bigger and better :-)
Your explanation and clarification re this video is very informative to the novice. When I see reviews like this one I often overlook the little nuances of the poster as long as it not dangerous info. You did a great job of knocking off the minor rough edges without being condescending or rude. Kudos to you.
My mom gave me the 428 version (3 burner). great set up. we used it for non civilian purposes and it worked BEAUTIFULLY for keeping mercy in coffee and hot food. This was the best wedding/survival gift (as we're both prepares) that I could've got. great that you clarified for people. I already knew it, but served as a good refresher for me.
Thanks. I think that I overfilled the tank by improper use of the funnel and could not get enough air pressure pumped in to mist the fuel. It just leaked out the end of the tube (generator) and would not light the burners. I will empty some fuel from the tank and then try again.
Also the cooking area on the 414 will only handle 2 10" pans. The 424 will handel a 1" and 12" pan. The 424 is 17000btu vs the 414 @ 14000.. From coleman specs.
In Australia we call white gas "Shellite" (brand name). We could not get Coleman fuel here after hurricane Katrina so I had to use Shellite. I found it to soot up my pots and frying pan badly. Fortunately now we can purchase Coleman fuel so I only use that. It doesn't get dirty on the pots because of the cleaner burning fuel. I love this stove and had mine since 2007. I service mine every 12 months and I reckon I can damn near weld with it. I was so impressed with the stove I bought the Northstar lantern. That thing pretty near lights up a grid square (bit of an exaggeration) but, great products and I wouldn't even think of using anything else for camping.
there was one design change from the 60's stoves, it has to do with the location of the fuel cap. on the earlier stove the fuel cap was easily opened while the stove was lit, so coleman moved the cap location to a spot that is difficult to get at when the stove is lit. other than that, the later tank fits on the earlier stove and vise versa.
I just got a 425C coleman 2 burner stove built in about 1964. It works great. I just bought a propane converter generator. It works great with propane. Take care of that stove, it will last you a life time with few repairs.
Use this thing since 1992.....now having a newer version. And have An single burner 442 also. In Europe at the moment car gas is e5 or e10 , not the best, so i use White gas, at about 1.5 euro/ quarter gallon. Works for me , winter camping, and summer all over Europe.
Ultralight backpacker Whips out Coleman 414 Great video. This is on my list to get in the near future. Used one once a couple years ago and worked great.
I used one of these a lot many years ago, on a family outback road trip I got sick of how fiddly it was and i always spilled smelly fuel, compared yo our companions gas system, so changed to gas cylinders. I really regret that now, it was so compact and convenient. Might dust it off and have a play.
I just picked one of these up four ten bucks. I saw it said unleaded powerhouse on it and that lead me to this video. Didn't know these things would run on gas.
Reading the comments, it seems as though there is a brotherhood of fire makers here. Anyone else ever just light one up for no reason just to watch it burn?
Since Propane burns too much matter that can cause existence to eventually evaporate, I did research on fuels and found that White Gas burns then rises into the atmosphere then breaks down and comes down as nutrients for plants on Earth, this design can last as long as possible.
A clown you have no idea what you’re doing with that stove you explain things wrong you’re running the flame improperly nobody runs at that higher kept going on about how big the flame is an orange flame doesn’t give you anywhere near the heat there’s a blue flame does let’s start with that one basic facts shall we dummy?
Ultralight Backpacker I’m dictating clown that means I’m talking to my phone I’m not worried about punctuation so once again in summary you don’t know what you’re talking about which is typical of many RUclips videos
Ultralight Backpacker but feel free to look at my properly narrated videos and other things that I do I’ve only been in the business for about 35 years.
Ultralight Backpacker dear child, yes I started working in television in 1980. My personal channel you see here isn’t meant to impress anyone, it’s merely stuff I do and things I’ve done, you short sighted ignorant clown. So description (there is plenty) nor cohesion are required. I’m not watching your stuff fool, I happened across you crap while looking for restoration videos, as I have an old family naphtha stove, I’m going to restore. My points about your video still stand, you suggest erroneous info, carry on like an 8 year old about your big orange flame (cold flame) and fail to point out the proper flame height or colour. I have forgotten more about video production, than you know. My other two channels are testament to that. BTW is that a Groucho Marks nose, stache and glasses gag, you’re wearing?
Ultralight Backpacker keep praying douchebag, I will talk to my cats, expect the same results. My conduct here has absolutely nothing to do with my professionalisms . Here’s a basic sample of my VOLUNTEERED production efforts. Since you feel the need to keep crying and pop up every few days, I suggest it’s you who needs to STFU and move along. ruclips.net/video/uE7Y8wcRDvg/видео.html Enjoy.
Still have my stove which I still use for almost 30 years,I love it because it's very cheap to run plus works in cold temperatures that a regular gas stove would be almost useless.good video.
Duel -- a contest with deadly weapons arranged between two people in order to settle a point of honor. Dual -- consisting of two parts, elements, or aspects. Nice review. We plan to purchase this stove.
Rotating the lighting lever does not clean anything. That lever blocks off the liquid fuel pickup in the tank, so it can light on fumes and then switch to liquid when hot. The cleaning action is only on lanterns.
Nice video and great stove! You want to orient the funnel the other way so it is level when you fill the tank. You want to pressurize and check tank before installing it to check for leaks. I always wiggle the fuel cap a little and purge extra pressure from the tank when I am done.
Paid less than $5.00 for mine at a Goodwill. It needed some fixing. But even counting for spare parts I have less then $12 in it. Damn nice stove. Use it all the time.
Dang that's some luck, I pick up old Coleman lanterns and stoves from antique stores, but always come out with just as much money spent in parts as would be to buy a new one. I've come to find that most of the ones I find have been neglected, and whoever owned it previously always seemed to break the eyelet that connects the generator to the valve assembly. The bad part is finding less popular models that parts have been discontinued for.
I own about 6 coleman stoves and 8 coleman lanterns. They are great! You can convert them to use 1lb propane bottles for about $20. Duel fuel stoves and lanterns can also use unleaded gasoline. It is very cost effective but can lead to issues. First use regular unleaded gasoline. I have used it with up to 10% ethanol. It causes a smellier burn and leaves a residue on the bottom of pots. You also will have to clean your generator tube after consuming perhaps 10+ gallons of gasoline. "This is a looong time for most people, maybe a decade. Gasoline is cheap and readily available though. The propane conversion for multi-burner stoves works great. It is what I use for trunk picnics while traveling. I detach the propane bottle and keep it in a cooler so no worries on a hot day. Can make grilled cheese, eggs, hamburgers etc. I also have a small stove top coffee purculator to make fresh coffee. The small propane bottles ain't cheap. About $3 a piece on sale. You can refill them from a 20 lb propane tank and save a considerable amount by doing so. Stopping for lunch for 3 costs $30 easily. You can find good Coleman stoves on Craigslist for $50 or less. Two picnic lunches at rest stops and it pays for itself. ruclips.net/video/jkhU-w1tnWo/видео.html ruclips.net/video/o7h4HVAJR9w/видео.html
I noticed the filling cap's unusual location on the tank. It's oriented to face inwards when installed, so it'll be blocked by the stove's wall. I wonder if this is a deliberate foolproof feature to prevent people from topping up the stove when it is fixed in... and burning.
It is deliberate. They don't want you opening the fuel cap when under pressure and a burner is running. I have a coleman 533 single burner and my wife opened the fuel cap when the burner was going. Big fireball ensued. She's ok though. Her hair grew back.
Any issues with vapours leaking from the storage tank while in storage? I am looking to put one in my campervan and don't want it leaking VOCs into the air where we are sleeping if it's stored inside the cabin area when not in use.
One thing that all of the videos that show how fast to boil water is that it is never mention what the elevation above sea level is. Here in Utah I am at 4500 feet , and when I go camping the elevation is 9,000 to 11,000 feet . Water boils faster and a a much lower temperature at these levels. If you boil water from a creek , you have to boil for at least 10 minutes to make it safe .
Thanks for the review. Wondering if you could comment now that you've had it for a while on the quality of the construction and how it's held up? We used them growing up. I currently use an MSR Whisperlite and formerly ran an XGK (lasted 20 years), but now that we have a little travel trailer, would like to get something bigger. I'm spooked by several recent reviews saying the quality isn't what it used to be and that several folks have encountered leaky stoves (multiple in a row) that needed to be returned. Have you seen any of that? Thanks in advance for your thoughts!
All stoves and all lanterns that run Coleman fuel will run just fine on unleaded gasoline. You will need to clean the generator about every 10-20 tank fulls and there will be additional stuff to clean off of your fry pan bottoms. Other than that, unlead gasoline works perfect in them.
FYI: Amazon no longer carries this stove. I confirmed this by speaking to Amazon directly. The link provided here does not work. It becomes confusing when trying to determine this particular stove, as most sites do not carry Coleman model numbers with the units they sell. Here is how to find this particular stove: Look for words the the item description that reads: "one 10" pot and one 12" pot". The other, smaller, stove, model 424, will say: "two 10" pots". Another way is to look for Coleman item #'s. THIS stove is "3(lots of zeros)3655"; the smaller stove, the 424's number is: "3(lots of zeros)3648". I hope this helps.
I got the Coleman grill fro Propane canisters and it couldn't be more convenient. Just take a couple gas cartouches along and you're good. Unleaded gas? White gas? Tanking and pumping? Ridiculous.
The 425 (RED fuel tank) is the vintage model and is not dual-fuel. Both the 414 and 424 (GRAY fuel tank) are dual fuel. The 424 is physically smaller and rated at 14,000 BTU. The 414 (labelled Powerhouse) is 17'' x 24'' x 8'' (closed) and rated at 17,000 BTU. I recently bought a brand-new 414 direct from Coleman since I do car camping and will not be backpacking with it. The 425's usually have letters (such as 425F) to indicate when they were manufactured.
Thanks for the video! How do you transport the fuel when camping? If you’ve placed the fuel in the stove’s fuel bottle and you want to drive to another campsite, do you keep the fuel in the stove’s bottle or decant the fuel into a dedicated secondary fuel bottle such as MSR or Primus bottles?
No it doesn’t. It’s burns rather efficiently. I have a 45 year old 3 burner that my dad used for our camping trips and used gasoline exclusively, and I still have and use it today.
We are doing the mongol rally this summer and I am considering this unit. Will this rattle and make a lot of noise if we were to store it inside the car while driving? And do you need to empty the gas container after each cook?
Cars? And Mongols? Y'all slippin? Haha.😊 For long term storage, yes, purge the system. This is easy. Pump up the tank, stick the gen tube into the fuel can and open the valve. Or get a 1 pint ( 12oz) plastic bottle to purge into. 12 oz is perfect for refill without overfilling. Or, you can just purge the fuel into a Bic lighter flame for a cool flamethrower effect! Right up your alley!
same here it floods the manifold also will not shut off! it’s a new unit used it on two camping trips both times failed! i believe it’s the shutoff valve and can’t buy a new valve not manufactured any more! i have a three burner and one other two burner stove that work fine. anyways good luck!
The lighting lever, IN NO WAY, cleans the valve or anything else. It does one thing and one thing ONLY. It blocks or opens the fuel pickup orifice at the bottom of the fuel/air tube in the tank for instant lighting mode. It lets lots of air and a little fuel into the generator to keep it from flooding until the generator gets hot enough to vaporize the liquid fuel into gas. This process uses a LOT of air and more pumping is required to maintain pressure after it lights. This isn't like a lantern some stoves where the lever actuates the cleaning/regulating needle. The cleaning/regulating needle on these is directly connected to the valve spindle. This is a common misconception, so you're not alone. The most likely cause of the yellow flames you had, which are not normal, is a lack of pressure, insects shacking up in the burner tubes or mixing chamber, or "test opening" the valve before lighting and flooding the generator. The key to clean light ups is lots of pressure and holding the lighted match to the burner and QUICKLY opening the valve AT LEAST 2 full turns with lighting lever up and not throttling the valve during warmup. Open that sucker up. I recommend adding one pump per second immediately after it lights to maintain good atomization and clean burning until the generator start vaporizing fuel. After about a minute, flip the lighting lever down and add pumps as necessary to maintain a strong blue to seafoam green flame. I believe 35 pumps is what the instructions call for, but this is on a FULL tank of fuel with little head space. A half tank will require much more. Pressure is your friend and the built in pump cannot over pressurize the tank or cause a dangerous situation. They designed sufficient air space at the bottom of the pump tube when the plunger is fully seated to make over pressurizing impossible. Don't be afraid to add lots of pumps. Hope this helps some folks.
@@chrisdemers2938 I got my first one to use in a camper shell. Mostly outside, but come winter I used it in a house / office trailer. I used that stove indoors and out, for 3 years with no problems. Got one now, in fact.
I owned on of these, rattles a lot and very temperamental. My standard gas stove is reliable, quick n easy and does not need pumping and tweaking every couple of minutes.
I have the 424 & it scares me. Sometimes, it will just burst into flames I use it to brew my coffee because they turned off my electric gas & water when my life went down the shitter .when I get my life back together I'm going to throw that piece of shit away
The grumbles that I've been reading about is that these new stoves are somewhat "tinny" compared to the ones from the 1970s/80s. So much so that the metal tabs of the wings can be bent with thumbs (buyer in the UK). Where are these stoves made? PLEASE let it not be China. Can 91% or 99% isopropyl alcohol be used as well? Unfortunately, kerosene isn't easily available in the US nor is it cheap, as in 3rd world and developing countries. Otherwise, a couple of full sized kerosene stoves would've been my first choice. Looking for emergency purposes, especially since power substations are being sabotaged by "patriots" across the country. SMH.
@@chrisdemers2938 I bought one, 2 burners, gasoline. 👍 It sits in its unopened box, waiting for the apocalypse or civil war. Hey I'm not firing up that thing and then have to repack it. I can't even get the Instapot back in its box! At least I use it. Nothing like a pressure cooker. Or a maid. 😁
Word of caution ⚠️ about this product. Coleman has fallen very fare from American made. This stove is extremely cheaply made. It might as well be a pop can. I have an old one that is made out of thick metal and way better. I bought this stove and took it back the next day. It's so thin that during shipping it was all dented and paint had chipped off. To top that all off they want 219.99 for this trash. Spend your money elsewhere. Shame on Coleman for such a cheap over priced trash. If you want something that can be trusted for the long haul. Spend money on that.
This stove runs on petrol or liquid naphtha camp fuel, not LPG propane gas. So it is more complex to operate. But the fuel is cheaper, and you don't need to lug around a heavy bulky gas tank. Coleman also makes propane gas camping stoves.
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Thanks for making a great video. I am 66 and have been using Coleman stoves for 40 years. I have 5 of them. I give them to young guys who are starting into the camping scene.
@icy purple thank you. I find Coleman stoves at Garage sales in Upscale neighborhoods......hardly used. Dual fuel $15-20 bucks. Red tank $10. Most people in upscale neighborhoods stay in hotels but may have had to go camping with their kids on a church or scout outing a couple of times.
@@uscgalpha91 I am with you Brother. I am 65. My daughter and I hope to not be my Son in Law just went camping for the first time. She asked for my/our family's 413G stove. I had purchased one of the new Coleman stoves at a garage sale that had never been used: Brand new in the box. I gave her that one. If the camping goes well, I will restore a 413 for them and a couple of 220F lanterns as Christmas gifts, but I did not want my family 413 going on this "First camping date" so to speak.
Found one in my parents basement covered in dust. When I asked him when he got it he said he first took it hunting the weekend Mr Kennedy was shot. It still works!!!
crazy enough, these are not just for car-camping.. when i was a boy scout in the 70's we frequently packed these stoves in on overnight hikes that were less than 5 miles, and always brought them along on winter hikes where we would build igloos and sleep in them overnight. in those days we had external frame packs so it was easy to strap a coleman on the back. of course, not all of us packed in a stove, we shared gear so someone else packed in the cooking pots, someone else packed in the food, etc. etc. we packed in our personal stuff and shared the troop gear.
if you run these exclusively on white gas/coleman fuel, the generator will last a lifetime and will never need to be cleaned or replaced. if you burn auto gas in one, be prepared to learn how to disassemble and clean or replace the generator and pack along the tools and parts you might need. these things are built like tanks and are very hard to kill unless you make a deliberate effort to do so.
I remember do the same in boy scouts with these stoves for both camping trips that took a hike out into the woods and camping right out of the trailer. These stoves worked great for cooking and the Coleman lanterns worked great too. I recently inherited my grandpa's 426 3 burner stove from the 60s, still works great.
Amazing how I have one from 1981 and the design is the exact same. It still works
A few corrections for the sake of clarity:
All though evaporation of liquid fuel does occur in the long tube coming out of the tank valve, after a short period of heating from exposure to the main burner flame, this tube is actually called a Generator. It “generates” gas by evaporating liquid fuel. Useful to know if looking for replacement parts.
The lighting lever that you turn up when first lighting the stove, & then down about a minute later, (some times a bit longer if it is freezing cold outside), is not a cleaning device. This is a confusion from the days when Coleman lanterns had a similar appearing lever that Was a cleaning device. Those lantern manuals would instruct you to rotate the lever several times to clean the generator tube, & jet, (jet = small opening that allows fuel to exit the generator). The stove lever instead, just alters the fuel / pressurized air mixture ratio. In the up, “lighting” position, this causes some of the compressed air in the tank to be mixed in to the liquid fuel, in the valve body. This helps to turn the fuel into a mist upon exiting the jet, and entering the burner assembly, making natural evaporation, & subsequent combustion, easier during start up. After the generator is hot enough to vaporize the fuel before it exits the jet, the lighting lever can be turned down, which cuts off any compressed tank air from being mixed into the fuel, & instead allows the pressure to just supply liquid fuel to the generator. This means that compressed tank air is used faster during start up, vs. under normal operation with lighting lever turned down. This is also why the stove instructions advise you to add about 30 more pumps of air to the tank, following completion of the start up processes.
When fueling the tank using the red plastic Coleman filter funnel, the orientation of the tank shown in this video is incorrect, you should place the tank on a flat level surface, right side up. Place & orient the funnel so that the angled lip of the funnel is as close to parallel with the ground as possible, which will best allow the funnel to function as designed. It is supposed to stop filling when the tank fuel level reaches the max. allowed, while still leaving room for air pressure to be added. When the funnel stops draining into the tank, you withdraw it slowly, & this allows the last bit of fuel to fill the tank correctly. That’s the theory any way. In practice, this can be tricky. If you use this, or any funnel, to fill the tank when resting on it’s rear seam and valve knob, then you can end up over filling it, & not leave enough air space to pressurize the tank, so fill it using this method in small increments.
These are great stoves, & with one of the available propane adapters, ( Stansport, Texsport, Coghlans, etc.), the versatility can’t be beat for car camping, off grid living, or survival.
Thanks, better than the video! I just purchased a used one. Can't find the date stamp but the box mentions $1.25/gal gasoline :-) Mine has a copper rings heat exchanger on the generator exit, presumably to better vaporize gasoline. Additions to your input:
Full tank burn time listed at 1.5 hrs both burners on full.
Don't turn burner higher than flame wrapping around pot. Use lids.
I'm a little suspicious that Coleman had to lengthen the generator to burn unleaded and then marketed it as bigger and better.
Even as old (but used little) as I suspect mine is, it had a struggling plastic air pump cup. I upgraded to leather.
Great stove. No reason basic models can't burn unleaded but I suspect at lower heat output. Enjoy bigger and better :-)
Your explanation and clarification re this video is very informative to the novice. When I see reviews like this one I often overlook the little nuances of the poster as long as it not dangerous info. You did a great job of knocking off the minor rough edges without being condescending or rude. Kudos to you.
My mom gave me the 428 version (3 burner). great set up. we used it for non civilian purposes and it worked BEAUTIFULLY for keeping mercy in coffee and hot food. This was the best wedding/survival gift (as we're both prepares) that I could've got. great that you clarified for people. I already knew it, but served as a good refresher for me.
Thanks. I think that I overfilled the tank by improper use of the funnel and could not get enough air pressure pumped in to mist the fuel. It just leaked out the end of the tube (generator) and would not light the burners. I will empty some fuel from the tank and then try again.
Also the cooking area on the 414 will only handle 2 10" pans. The 424 will handel a 1" and 12" pan.
The 424 is 17000btu vs the 414 @ 14000.. From coleman specs.
In Australia we call white gas "Shellite" (brand name). We could not get Coleman fuel here after hurricane Katrina so I had to use Shellite. I found it to soot up my pots and frying pan badly.
Fortunately now we can purchase Coleman fuel so I only use that. It doesn't get dirty on the pots because of the cleaner burning fuel. I love this stove and had mine since 2007. I service mine every 12 months and I reckon I can damn near weld with it. I was so impressed with the stove I bought the Northstar lantern. That thing pretty near lights up a grid square (bit of an exaggeration) but, great products and I wouldn't even think of using anything else for camping.
I have 2 of them. The design hasn't changed since 1965. Mine were made in the 60's an 70's. They still work fine.
I have one from the 90s and recently I was given my grandpa's old 426 from the 60s, both work flawlessly too.
there was one design change from the 60's stoves, it has to do with the location of the fuel cap. on the earlier stove the fuel cap was easily opened while the stove was lit, so coleman moved the cap location to a spot that is difficult to get at when the stove is lit. other than that, the later tank fits on the earlier stove and vise versa.
I just got a 425C coleman 2 burner stove built in about 1964. It works great. I just bought a propane converter generator. It works great with propane. Take care of that stove, it will last you a life time with few repairs.
Ive had one for over 25 years. Excellent stoves.
Use this thing since 1992.....now having a newer version. And have An single burner 442 also. In Europe at the moment car gas is e5 or e10 , not the best, so i use White gas, at about 1.5 euro/ quarter gallon. Works for me , winter camping, and summer all over Europe.
Excellent tutorial!
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Whips out Coleman 414
Great video. This is on my list to get in the near future. Used one once a couple years ago and worked great.
I've had mine for 30 years, maybe more, works like a charm.....
I just lucked out and found an old one in excellent condition for $30. It is amazing.
Definitely got to get myself one of these stoves after seeing your review. Thanks.
I could not figure out how the hell to get it working. Glad i found this vid
I used one of these a lot many years ago, on a family outback road trip I got sick of how fiddly it was and i always spilled smelly fuel, compared yo our companions gas system, so changed to gas cylinders.
I really regret that now, it was so compact and convenient.
Might dust it off and have a play.
I just picked one of these up four ten bucks. I saw it said unleaded powerhouse on it and that lead me to this video. Didn't know these things would run on gas.
Reading the comments, it seems as though there is a brotherhood of fire makers here. Anyone else ever just light one up for no reason just to watch it burn?
Since Propane burns too much matter that can cause existence to eventually evaporate, I did research on fuels and found that White Gas burns then rises into the atmosphere then breaks down and comes down as nutrients for plants on Earth, this design can last as long as possible.
I got a 413 h from 86 that I just finished fixing up. They are kickass units.
I love watching videos that clearly demonstrate people don’t have a clue what they’re doing or what they’re talking about.
A clown you have no idea what you’re doing with that stove you explain things wrong you’re running the flame improperly nobody runs at that higher kept going on about how big the flame is an orange flame doesn’t give you anywhere near the heat there’s a blue flame does let’s start with that one basic facts shall we dummy?
Ultralight Backpacker I’m dictating clown that means I’m talking to my phone I’m not worried about punctuation so once again in summary you don’t know what you’re talking about which is typical of many RUclips videos
Ultralight Backpacker but feel free to look at my properly narrated videos and other things that I do I’ve only been in the business for about 35 years.
Ultralight Backpacker dear child, yes I started working in television in 1980. My personal channel you see here isn’t meant to impress anyone, it’s merely stuff I do and things I’ve done, you short sighted ignorant clown. So description (there is plenty) nor cohesion are required. I’m not watching your stuff fool, I happened across you crap while looking for restoration videos, as I have an old family naphtha stove, I’m going to restore. My points about your video still stand, you suggest erroneous info, carry on like an 8 year old about your big orange flame (cold flame) and fail to point out the proper flame height or colour. I have forgotten more about video production, than you know. My other two channels are testament to that. BTW is that a Groucho Marks nose, stache and glasses gag, you’re wearing?
Ultralight Backpacker keep praying douchebag, I will talk to my cats, expect the same results. My conduct here has absolutely nothing to do with my professionalisms . Here’s a basic sample of my VOLUNTEERED production efforts. Since you feel the need to keep crying and pop up every few days, I suggest it’s you who needs to STFU and move along.
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Enjoy.
Still have my stove which I still use for almost 30 years,I love it because it's very cheap to run plus works in cold temperatures that a regular gas stove would be almost useless.good video.
Cool. I have an old 413F I love using.
Awesome. I loooove Coleman car camp stoves.
This is basically the model I’m looking for. I dislike the propane canister issue. Plus these have good flame control
It's a great stove. I love mine!
If you had pumped the pressure up after lighting the first burner you would have achieved an intense blue flame even up high.
Duel -- a contest with deadly weapons arranged between two people in order to settle a point of honor.
Dual -- consisting of two parts, elements, or aspects.
Nice review. We plan to purchase this stove.
Awesome review
One interesting one cute commercial RUclips is actually showing some brains.
Rotating the lighting lever does not clean anything. That lever blocks off the liquid fuel pickup in the tank, so it can light on fumes and then switch to liquid when hot. The cleaning action is only on lanterns.
I didn't know Coleman made that model! It looks really nice! I don't want to be rude but you remind me Groucho Marx! He was a big star!
Hi The proper name for the," tube" as you call it , it's name is a generator. Just so you know. Great video 👍
Thanks for the video info
Very helpful video, thank you!
Nice video and great stove! You want to orient the funnel the other way so it is level when you fill the tank. You want to pressurize and check tank before installing it to check for leaks. I always wiggle the fuel cap a little and purge extra pressure from the tank when I am done.
Paid less than $5.00 for mine at a Goodwill. It needed some fixing. But even counting for spare parts I have less then $12 in it. Damn nice stove. Use it all the time.
Dang that's some luck, I pick up old Coleman lanterns and stoves from antique stores, but always come out with just as much money spent in parts as would be to buy a new one.
I've come to find that most of the ones I find have been neglected, and whoever owned it previously always seemed to break the eyelet that connects the generator to the valve assembly. The bad part is finding less popular models that parts have been discontinued for.
Awesome review brother I have one I got it from the neighbors Yard sale for $30 bucks
Excellent video. I learned a lot. I can't wait to try out my 1988 version!
I own about 6 coleman stoves and 8 coleman lanterns. They are great! You can convert them to use 1lb propane bottles for about $20. Duel fuel stoves and lanterns can also use unleaded gasoline. It is very cost effective but can lead to issues. First use regular unleaded gasoline. I have used it with up to 10% ethanol. It causes a smellier burn and leaves a residue on the bottom of pots. You also will have to clean your generator tube after consuming perhaps 10+ gallons of gasoline. "This is a looong time for most people, maybe a decade. Gasoline is cheap and readily available though.
The propane conversion for multi-burner stoves works great. It is what I use for trunk picnics while traveling. I detach the propane bottle and keep it in a cooler so no worries on a hot day. Can make grilled cheese, eggs, hamburgers etc. I also have a small stove top coffee purculator to make fresh coffee. The small propane bottles ain't cheap. About $3 a piece on sale. You can refill them from a 20 lb propane tank and save a considerable amount by doing so. Stopping for lunch for 3 costs $30 easily. You can find good Coleman stoves on Craigslist for $50 or less. Two picnic lunches at rest stops and it pays for itself.
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I noticed the filling cap's unusual location on the tank. It's oriented to face inwards when installed, so it'll be blocked by the stove's wall. I wonder if this is a deliberate foolproof feature to prevent people from topping up the stove when it is fixed in... and burning.
It is deliberate. They don't want you opening the fuel cap when under pressure and a burner is running. I have a coleman 533 single burner and my wife opened the fuel cap when the burner was going. Big fireball ensued. She's ok though. Her hair grew back.
It’s in an “unusual” position to the untrained and safety unconscious person
Thank you for this man. Appreciated
I love this stove and use Aspen 4T fuel in the UK
Hi, I live in Scotland but having trouble finding the aspen 4t or amy alkylate petrol. Where do you get it from? Thanks
Thomas A Sammut I get it from a local agricultural suppliers. I found the address on the dealers section of the Aspen web site
This is a very informative video, thanks man
Great job on this video...thank you!
Any issues with vapours leaking from the storage tank while in storage? I am looking to put one in my campervan and don't want it leaking VOCs into the air where we are sleeping if it's stored inside the cabin area when not in use.
One thing that all of the videos that show how fast to boil water is that it is never mention what the elevation above sea level is. Here in Utah I am at 4500 feet , and when I go camping the elevation is 9,000 to 11,000 feet . Water boils faster and a a much lower temperature at these levels. If you boil water from a creek , you have to boil for at least 10 minutes to make it safe .
Add salt to the waterr
Great stove
Thanks for the review. Wondering if you could comment now that you've had it for a while on the quality of the construction and how it's held up? We used them growing up. I currently use an MSR Whisperlite and formerly ran an XGK (lasted 20 years), but now that we have a little travel trailer, would like to get something bigger. I'm spooked by several recent reviews saying the quality isn't what it used to be and that several folks have encountered leaky stoves (multiple in a row) that needed to be returned. Have you seen any of that? Thanks in advance for your thoughts!
The best instructional video since I gave up my diapers and thats about 30 years ago.....coleman shoukd hire you!!
good job!!. Thank you for your video.
I got my 413H on Facebook market place for $20. It’s the white gas only version of this stove. And I just picked up the smaller 424 for $50 like new.
All stoves and all lanterns that run Coleman fuel will run just fine on unleaded gasoline. You will need to clean the generator about every 10-20 tank fulls and there will be additional stuff to clean off of your fry pan bottoms. Other than that, unlead gasoline works perfect in them.
FYI: Amazon no longer carries this stove. I confirmed this by speaking to Amazon directly. The link provided here does not work.
It becomes confusing when trying to determine this particular stove, as most sites do not carry Coleman model numbers with the units they sell. Here is how to find this particular stove: Look for words the the item description that reads: "one 10" pot and one 12" pot". The other, smaller, stove, model 424, will say: "two 10" pots".
Another way is to look for Coleman item #'s. THIS stove is "3(lots of zeros)3655"; the smaller stove, the 424's number is: "3(lots of zeros)3648".
I hope this helps.
Lots of views! And likes! And comments! Oh my!
It’s actually tri-fuel. You can buy a conversion generator tube which allows you to use propane tanks.
For best results use; (1) Coleman fuel, (2) Shellite (white spirit?) and (3) unleaded gasoline. Gasoline does not burn as clean as the other fuels.
Outstanding review brother
the small brass lever is up to light and after 1minute, turn facing down!
Have you tried it with the propane adapter? With that you have a lot of versatility.
Do you ever use the foldable Coleman oven with that stove?
Nicely done video
Sure looks pretty
I have a question about what to do with the left over fuel you may have in the tank. Do you drain that out?
I got the Coleman grill fro Propane canisters and it couldn't be more convenient. Just take a couple gas cartouches along and you're good. Unleaded gas? White gas? Tanking and pumping? Ridiculous.
Nice
Hi! Awesome video! Could you tell me please what is the difference between this model (Coleman 414) and 2 other more expensive models (424 and 425)?
The 425 (RED fuel tank) is the vintage model and is not dual-fuel. Both the 414 and 424 (GRAY fuel tank) are dual fuel. The 424 is physically smaller and rated at 14,000 BTU. The 414 (labelled Powerhouse) is 17'' x 24'' x 8'' (closed) and rated at 17,000 BTU. I recently bought a brand-new 414 direct from Coleman since I do car camping and will not be backpacking with it. The 425's usually have letters (such as 425F) to indicate when they were manufactured.
Thanks for the video! How do you transport the fuel when camping? If you’ve placed the fuel in the stove’s fuel bottle and you want to drive to another campsite, do you keep the fuel in the stove’s bottle or decant the fuel into a dedicated secondary fuel bottle such as MSR or Primus bottles?
Fuel cannot stay in the tank if it’s not continuous use. Store the fuel back to tank
Great demo. When using gasoline from your vehicle as the fuel source , does it smell like gasoline when you’re cooking ?
Thanks.
No it doesn’t. It’s burns rather efficiently. I have a 45 year old 3 burner that my dad used for our camping trips and used gasoline exclusively, and I still have and use it today.
We are doing the mongol rally this summer and I am considering this unit. Will this rattle and make a lot of noise if we were to store it inside the car while driving? And do you need to empty the gas container after each cook?
Cars? And Mongols? Y'all slippin? Haha.😊 For long term storage, yes, purge the system. This is easy. Pump up the tank, stick the gen tube into the fuel can and open the valve. Or get a 1 pint ( 12oz) plastic bottle to purge into. 12 oz is perfect for refill without overfilling. Or, you can just purge the fuel into a Bic lighter flame for a cool flamethrower effect! Right up your alley!
Remember if you’re gassy to never stand near an open flame
A lot of «NICE» things... :-)
Having issues with the stove flaming up at the manifold
same here it floods the manifold also will not shut off! it’s a new unit used it on two camping trips both times failed! i believe it’s the shutoff valve and can’t buy a new valve not manufactured any more! i have a three burner and one other two burner stove that work fine. anyways good luck!
same here.how to fix that is the question.
Man your voice doesn’t match your face lol. Great review. Subbed
Can see putting that in my bag... Lol. Thanks for sharing mate but not for me. ATB Andy
Ok it’s not a dual fuel ! It’s a tri fuel yup you can also run it on propane as well just buy the adapter .
Can unleaded 89 octane work?
What kind of matches are you using?
The lighting lever, IN NO WAY, cleans the valve or anything else. It does one thing and one thing ONLY. It blocks or opens the fuel pickup orifice at the bottom of the fuel/air tube in the tank for instant lighting mode. It lets lots of air and a little fuel into the generator to keep it from flooding until the generator gets hot enough to vaporize the liquid fuel into gas. This process uses a LOT of air and more pumping is required to maintain pressure after it lights. This isn't like a lantern some stoves where the lever actuates the cleaning/regulating needle. The cleaning/regulating needle on these is directly connected to the valve spindle. This is a common misconception, so you're not alone.
The most likely cause of the yellow flames you had, which are not normal, is a lack of pressure, insects shacking up in the burner tubes or mixing chamber, or "test opening" the valve before lighting and flooding the generator. The key to clean light ups is lots of pressure and holding the lighted match to the burner and QUICKLY opening the valve AT LEAST 2 full turns with lighting lever up and not throttling the valve during warmup. Open that sucker up.
I recommend adding one pump per second immediately after it lights to maintain good atomization and clean burning until the generator start vaporizing fuel. After about a minute, flip the lighting lever down and add pumps as necessary to maintain a strong blue to seafoam green flame. I believe 35 pumps is what the instructions call for, but this is on a FULL tank of fuel with little head space. A half tank will require much more. Pressure is your friend and the built in pump cannot over pressurize the tank or cause a dangerous situation. They designed sufficient air space at the bottom of the pump tube when the plunger is fully seated to make over pressurizing impossible. Don't be afraid to add lots of pumps.
Hope this helps some folks.
So you can used unleaded gasoline and or White Gas. How about alcohol?
That’s what I’m wondering
NO. NYET.NEIN. NO.
@@beardedobserver5947NONONONONONO. get a tuna can....
I need to get me one of them.
Wonder if it's still USA 🇺🇸 made???
Was that test on unleaded fuel?
Is it more dangerous than propane? The only thing is tempting about it is petrol everywhere.
anything useful is inherently dangerous. except for your old lady
Stupid question... Can you use it inside a van? Or would it kill me?
go for it😅 and get back to us on that
Provided you have plenty of ventilation you should be OK. You probably should have a carbon monoxide detector though.
@@chrisdemers2938 I got my first one to use in a camper shell. Mostly outside, but come winter I used it in a house / office trailer. I used that stove indoors and out, for 3 years with no problems. Got one now, in fact.
You didn't seem to have enough oxygen in your garage and the flame was kind of yellowish.
I owned on of these, rattles a lot and very temperamental. My standard gas stove is reliable, quick n easy and does not need pumping and tweaking every couple of minutes.
I have the 424 & it scares me. Sometimes, it will just burst into flames I use it to brew my coffee because they turned off my electric gas & water when my life went down the shitter .when I get my life back together I'm going to throw that piece of shit away
Are they selling a bomb or a stove?cos that's dàngerouse with a evaporator hose over a stove
That is the generator, and it works more efficient when the fuel vapor is heated!
got mine for under 50$ on ebay
Evaporator tube lol
wtf you doiing boiling the water ?
The grumbles that I've been reading about is that these new stoves are somewhat "tinny" compared to the ones from the 1970s/80s. So much so that the metal tabs of the wings can be bent with thumbs (buyer in the UK).
Where are these stoves made? PLEASE let it not be China.
Can 91% or 99% isopropyl alcohol be used as well?
Unfortunately, kerosene isn't easily available in the US nor is it cheap, as in 3rd world and developing countries. Otherwise, a couple of full sized kerosene stoves would've been my first choice.
Looking for emergency purposes, especially since power substations are being sabotaged by "patriots" across the country. SMH.
Relax...Coleman stoves are made in USA. Mostly in Kansas.
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I bought one, 2 burners, gasoline. 👍
It sits in its unopened box, waiting for the apocalypse or civil war.
Hey I'm not firing up that thing and then have to repack it.
I can't even get the Instapot back in its box! At least I use it. Nothing like a pressure cooker. Or a maid. 😁
Groucho Marx, is alive again.
lol
Omg You are cocking on Alu pots !!
On what do you cock?
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seems hard just get propane
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What a waste of those matches.
Word of caution ⚠️ about this product. Coleman has fallen very fare from American made. This stove is extremely cheaply made. It might as well be a pop can. I have an old one that is made out of thick metal and way better. I bought this stove and took it back the next day. It's so thin that during shipping it was all dented and paint had chipped off. To top that all off they want 219.99 for this trash. Spend your money elsewhere. Shame on Coleman for such a cheap over priced trash. If you want something that can be trusted for the long haul. Spend money on that.
dudes nose looks fake
It seems to be assembled in the old USSR. American engineers couldn't create something simpler and more efficient? !!!!!!
This stove runs on petrol or liquid naphtha camp fuel, not LPG propane gas. So it is more complex to operate. But the fuel is cheaper, and you don't need to lug around a heavy bulky gas tank.
Coleman also makes propane gas camping stoves.