Very sick detroit diesel 6v92TA. Engine smokes badly, leaking oil, mci vintage bus mc9
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- Опубликовано: 7 апр 2023
- MC9’s are one if the best buses ever built. Ricky’s childhood memories have helped him form a lifelong love of these buses. We need to do sone diagnostics on this detroit diesel 6v92ta engine to find out whats wrong with this engine. Can this bus be saved??
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Sometimes the market price of a bus isn't important. He got a great bus cheap because of deferred maintenance. Instead of guessing what a previous owner did or didn't do, he can now be sure that the improvements will be done correctly. Since he's keeping the bus, it is money well spent.
Salute! 🫡🚌
Great videos, I love that he decided to keep that old bus on the road very important to when the left is pushing for electric 👍
@@turboford4145 Thank you! 🚌🤝
@@turboford4145 Damn straight! The Left (and most of the Sheeple) don't grasp that every conversion of energy from one form to another creates losses. EVs will be pulling power from an electric grid that already has substantial losses; from the power plant generators to the charging station. The DOE (Dept of Energy) should impose a moratorium on new charging stations until a study is done on where the grid is already at capacity and where it will be O.K. for another 10 years or so.
That said, EVs *COULD* be feasible but, they must be made and marketed as LOCAL COMMUTERS and nothing more. Charge your car in your driveway and your driving radius should be 50 miles from home. With that limitation, we might be able to handle a few EVs.
Finally, EV's are overequipped with too much high tech crap. I heard that you have to have your smart phone and special app to use a Tesla! F-KTHAT! Plus, all that internet connectivity is just BEGGING to be used as a satellite backdoor for the Feds to turn off your car if they don't like you.
That's right. We did gamble on 33ft fishing boat that had Bad maintenance past 10+years but got it for Less than half market Price not Even counting transport cost. Was Hell of a deal.
Lucky he did not get into a runaway issue with that much oil blowby.
Another old work horse saved from the torch...love it!
Salute, Patrick! 🫡🚌
Sometimes its not what it's worth its what its worth to him and his boyhood dreams, and that's every reason to repair and fix it back to new. Unfortunately we live in a world of if its broken throwing away and get another one, but you can't do that with dreams. Look forward to see the rebuild boys. Australia.
Wow, hey, THANK YOU….🫵🤝🚌
Outstanding diagnosis by the team; kudos to the owner for deciding to keep that beautiful bus on the road with y'alls help.
Thank you Michael! 🚌🤝
I agree with that and the MCI mc-9 is one of my favorite touring buses.
Great to hear he’s decided to put the money in and keep her on the road. Sometimes market values etc are less important than keeping old iron going. Nice work!
Good story am happy the bus is being saved. Thanks for saving these old buses.
Yes, Le Powell. I couldn’t let her just die or be scrapped. Thank you! 👍🫵🚌
I recommend you guys get a set of walkie talkies to communicate between the person behind the wheel and the mechanic in the back at the engine compartment. It might help the response between the two people. Keep up the great work...
Glad to see another one saved. Scott you are good people to work with these people and help them out
Yes Murray, I agree! 🤝🚌
I'm so glad to hear that he truly wants to save this bus,,is like you always said, if you can make it up the hill you'll live forever,,well done and thanks for posting.
Thank you! Yes, I’m saving her…🚌🤝
So glad he is saving the bus. He knows what he has and with you guys doing the repairs he will have a great rig.
Thank you Dan & you are correct! 🤝🚌
..When I get my bus, the drive past the house and showing it off to my friends will have to wait...the first stop will be your place for the best inspection known...
Yeah, that motor needs precisely the attention you've discovered. If he's not in a hurry and wants you to do it, I for one think it's the wisest of all ideas. Thanks Scott, Tyler, and company !
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Worth saving despite it has engine failure. From what I have learned these 6v92 take a ton of beating before they truly give up the ghost.
Yes Steve, we are definitely gonna save “Wendy!“ 🤝🚌
@@tipsandtrips7519 I'm interested in what has failed in the engine. Just for learning experiences. If you do the engine rebuild, Wendy will be as good as new.
Ever since I learned about you Scott as Bus Grease Monkey, I have been wanting to buy a classic bus and fix it up. It looks like a lot of hard and heavy work that goes into these buses and I applaud you for being so knowledgeable in finding the issues. So if I ever buy one, it's going to you to fix. Also, I have to confess, the smell of a diesel bus brings me back to a time that I will never forget. So every time one of these buses passes by I smell those fumes and it takes me back. Let's just say its meaning is the smell of Freedom. TY Scott!
You are a really honest person. Gave him options and monies involved. He also must know you are fair and will do all you can too keep his dream on the road. I am sure he is in the right place for a good job. Steve rhome TX thanks for the honest RUclips.
Very good people they are, Steve.
Poor ol Detroit I wonder if that's what was wrong with Hoyt Axtons old greyhound great song by the way.
Fair play to you Scott and your family for helping out you always go that extra mile you really ar3 one of the worlds good guys and it obviously carries on with Tyler
I quit smoking in 2014, best thing I ever did. I was a Metro Transit Bus Driver Minneapolis St. Paul for 36 years. It was a fine job!
Great diagnoses and nice decision from owner of the bus 😊👍
Thank you! 🤝🚌
It's great to go back and watch this video after watching what was going on with the engine during the teardown for the in-frame rebuild. It's good to see this bus will stay on the road and appears to be in good mechanical condition
Glad you were able to help save another piece of history ! Really a good looking coach ! Think it’s just been rode hard and put up wet too many times. I know it will be top notch when it leaves the mountain ! Have a Blessed Day
Hey, thanks Michael! I’m gonna bring her back….🤝🚌
10k is nothing……all economics considered. Once done properly, and maintained… it’ll last at least for life of the owner!
16:55 - "Cats and dogs sleeping together! It's the end of the word!"
I know you do lots of engine work in your shop. This just reminds me of when you did this on the road. He Loves his bus. I’m glad you / he going to fix it. Give it another life.
Great video & awesome editing, Scott! 🚌🤝🚌
Thanks for the video! Definitely some good views and explanation of what you were looking and what was going on. Thanks again!
Great he's saving it 👍
Thank you, I’m gonna bring her back! 🤝🚌
Well he took it to the right place!!!
Super cool slo mo of the injectors
Yikes! I can see the smoke in the air, and im in the UK!
Wow! That thing has issues! But if anybody can get it whipped back into sharp, it will be yall. Looking forward to seeing the next videos on it.
Thank you for your work, and videos, sirs!
Best wishes from Southern Michigan.
Scott & the crew will definitely get her back right! 🫡🚌
i reconize that sound. one of my fav kind
The beauty of a Detroit..... You can do a full rebuild in a week given you have some help and a case of beer. Just simple engine's
If a detroit isn't leaking oil it doesn't have oil in it.
Nice tool box! Looks minty.
Interesting that this MC-9 has the later MC-12/96A3/102A3 taillight clusters. I wonder if this is a late production -9, or if the taillight clusters were ordered from new. Perhaps Ricky can contact MCI and get a copy of the Final Vehicle Record to solve the mystery?
I believe that the owner before the owner had them put on at a later date and time. It also has the push button digital gear shift, which is also a later add-on, RustySax1949.
I would just check the turbo and blower, clearly cylinders are not totally worn out, since it cold start so clean.
Those cylinders are like, tubular man....
You guys are great!
If I bought a bus like that with that engine, I’d take the engine out… rebuilt it and put it in a classic semi truck where it belongs… for me I would invest it that way…but at the moment not now….great video
Lenny needs a lift gate on the side compartment doors.😊😊 11:23 especially when the hydro press is onboard. 12:06 get a Air over hydraulic jack for the press. 12:57
MCI model 9's are my favorite motor coaches, I operated these buses for various charter companies.
I'm glad you're going to save it. ❤️👍✌️🤟
Yes Gregory! I told Scott that it is people like us that keep these Classic buses going and from getting scrapped. 🤝🚌
And you haven’t even looked at the brakes or air leakage yet. Multi-part series for sure.
That should be a great series of videos.
I kind of wondered about putting the 6V92TA in these long haul buses. I can understand it better in transit buses that don't generally carry as much weight but it would seem underpowered in an interstate bus. I would opt for the 8V but then again I'm a power freak.
Greyhound ran 6v92ta in all of their MC12 and I believe in the 102a3. Slow on hills with a 4spd auto. They did ok with a 7spd stick.
The 6V92 was a great engine and was the only engine that Greyhound used from about 1980 until the Series 50 appeared in the MC12 in the mid-90's. These 6V92 engines had good power and would easily run 6, 7 or even 800,000 miles before needing a rebuild.
Awesome video!!!! 🧑🏭🧑🏭🚌🚌♥️♥️💯
Thank you!!! 🚌🤝❤️💯
@Ricky Webster You're welcome!🚌🤝🏼♥️💯
Some jackass burned her down at 1 point. Sad. I'd still rather hear a sick Jimmy than 20 good Series 60s. She'll be a sweet ride after the rebuild.
Burned down at 1 point? What does that mean, ace?
@@tipsandtrips7519 overheated it. Badly. Needle in the red & just kept going.
@@acemobile9806 Wow. Thanks for the input…🤝🚌
You guys are amazing :)
Yes they are, Jim! 🤝🚌
The MCI-9 solidified MCI’s dominance in the commercial motorcoach market in the USA. It was a true workhorse.
Yes it did & yes it was! It also helped to get Greyhound through some very dark times.
@@tipsandtrips7519 You think you could post more of your bus on YT?
@@amuroray1085 I sure am. Be looking out…🤝🚌
@@tipsandtrips7519 Yessir I subbed
@@amuroray1085 Thank you! Gonna post something soon….🤝🚌
14:57 Who remembers playing in the fog behind the "mosquito control" truck?
Good job
Ive ridden an MC9 with an 8v92 with a manual transmission
A $10,000 or shall I say close to a $10,000 rebuilt engine on the bus that he only paid 6000 for. That’s not a bad deal.
Amazing that thing never ran away on him burning oil like that
That was a warm restart. Needs to try again in the morning after a true cold soak. 3:49 and wheres the Belt of Doom?(Tm) 😮 5:02
Good looking bus, sure would be worth fixing
Thank you! 🤝🚌
Bus monkey saves another one BRAVO
keep the clips coming
It's like me scrapping an 94 f250 over putting the money into fixing it. And you don't wanna see it getting scrapped. Sometimes what matters is not how much people think it's worth but how much is it worth to you is what matters. It's not all about flipping things all the time. Put the money back into it and it'll pay you back in no time!
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Everything tends to start wearing out around the same time. you have to be very committed to continue spending money on something like that
Nice bus, good to see it's being saved! What part was it that the oil was drained from, and was running out? I didn't quite understand. I've done some more superficial inspections on 4stroke diesel engined buses, some of them had a bad oil seal on the turbo, causing the intercooler to fill up with oil. Draining the intercooler was therefore a standard inspection on this type of engine.
That's a good looking old bus
I have come across worn out buses that clearly needed an engine and extensive reconditioning. Unsafe at any speed
I don't miss trying to squeeze into the engine bay of busses to work on them. Exhaust pipe and air intake routing along with V belt drives and air conditioning equipment made for a jungle of stuff to get around. The side with the toilet dump pipe was always the worst though especially if it had leaked onto a hot exhaust pipe. Yuck!
That’s a no brainer decision if you appreciate history and the structure is strong. You rebuild your bus and eventually everything is brand new. After that it’s all about smiles to the miles. Maintain it and you’ll have many more years of use from it. 👍🏼
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@@tipsandtrips7519 Is that your coach ?
@@MarineCorpsSergeantTollens Yes it is, Angel. I finally made the move! 🙏🚌 Gonna have her ready for next year’s Spring Fling. You have to drive her. I’m gonna vlog it! 🫵🚌🙋♂️🎥😂
@@tipsandtrips7519 while you are in TN, reach out to Pieter Williams, @ Almost Chrome Metal Polishing. He can buff out your lower stainless to a mirror shine. That’s a reason why I prefer a coach with the lower stainless over the fully painted look. Are you going to do away with the paint over the stainless or keep that part painted when you get it repainted ?
@@MarineCorpsSergeantTollens Appreciate that, BIG time! I definitely feel you on the keeping the stainless steel. I believe I’m gonna keep that front painted white like it is now. I originally wanted to paint it Greyhound red, white, and blue. My mind changed and I just want to keep her as is.
So that at least partially explains why nearly every two stroke bus I seen when I was a kid smoked like that. Here I thought it was just normal. 🤣🤣
I wonder if that bus was being used to transport people in that condition 😅
Nice to see another coach saved from the scrappy.
Is that bus converted or still a passenger bus. If it is converted it would be a nice tour for sure!
Sometimes it is worth it, IF you can find someone to do the work.
..Is this the "Shoebox" of the bus world? ( Like a '55 Chevy? )
You should know that the problem never shows at the repair shop
And if the computer doesn't tell you a problem
There is no problem
sounds like it needs a overhaul
Wait, Detroit diesel smoking and leaking oil? That's normal in every Detroit I ever drove.
Oh boy what a mess.
At 3:51 it looks as if the bus has a "lean" - i.e. the bus is down on its left side a little.
What year is this mc9? I don’t see it posted in the description or title.
It’s going to make a great video!
I've always wondered if the single wheels of the 3rd axle are steerable, like european buses?
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Wow
She's burning oil that's blue smoke...I'm guessing bad rings
Smoking and oil dribbling Detroit? What is the problem?
Why would it smoke when it was warmed up but not at start up? Rings should tighten up as it heats up?
Smoking under load
@@BusGreaseMonkey Pistons to worn to small (Piston slap?) now? Or just leaking rings? Would heavier oil weight have temporarily helped?
I never hear much about it, but what is the mileage? I know back then things were built to last for many decades.
Another Bus Grease Monkey diagnostics and repair
Is this bus converted or is it original inside? 🤔
Hope the airbags and brakes are good.
Seated coach
the taillights don't match with the bus.
they are from the late 80's vintage.
Bad oil rings? In framr overhaul time. 😮
Awesome video! Did not know about the piston inspection ports! Also, for some reason, thought the slo-mo with banner was hilarious! ruclips.net/video/bRdT9pmetYs/видео.html
Old smokey
Can anyone tell me what that big long belt running vertically in the engine bay is for?
Radiator fans
Could a 8v92 be swapped in its place???
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Would it make sense to go to a four stroke or keep it a Detroit in it?
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Considering how fucked it was it ran well i thought
It looks like a Mc-12
Is it oil or fuel coming out of the side cover???