Building a low angle miter plane. (Build-off with Wood By Wright)
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James' video • How to Make Low Angle ...
I have never had great luck with shooting boards and squaring the ends of boards. I've always wanted a fancy shooting plane, but they're rare and expensive. So, When James Wright suggested we each build a low-angle plane, it seemed like the perfect opportunity to make a dedicated miter plane. I used what I know about building laminated planes, but I used high-tech materials like Corian and aluminium. This plane was influenced by custom infill planes, but it's a hybrid design. I think it's something new and it works great.
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Hi Rex :)
I am a carpenter (here in the UK) of 44 years so I'd like to think I know a little bit about planes and stuff.
I have to say that you have, in my humble opinion, produced a thing of beauty! It has moved way beyond being just a tool to a piece of art...a 1920s/30s style Art Deco object d'art that I wouldn't know if was best put in the workshop or in a display cabinet...be very proud!
You're too kind! Thanks so much for the encouragement! By the way, I love your country. Did a week in London in 2010. Amazing!
Martin,here in Detroit I dont think we have made such a good looking car,truly beautiful art.
This looks like a plane made by Young Je. He’s a true craftsman using tools the homeowner has.
That's a very high compliment! That guy is a true artist.
Your plane looks so good, it's like some sleek-bulby old prototype car. If I had a long shelf of interesting planes, I'd put yours second from the left
Oh, and which plane would go first?
@@RexKrueger The A-110 Warthog, of course.
Looks like a 1930's Racing Car, Silver Arrow. Really smart Rex 👍
Red Oak is the Nickleback of hardwoods.
Now who is kidding who? Awesome job!
Great video and a fantastic looking Plane Rex :) James is a great man :) ॐ
He sure is! Thanks for watching!
thanks man!
Looks fantastic.
I'm truly amazed
When glueing steel or aluminum sand first and clean with acetone. Getting oxides off of of aluminum and scale off of steel, for steel you can remove it chemically easily enough. Great video btw, also I would recommend you get cold rolled over O1 if you are not going be heat treating it. Just my to cents....
Wow! That is the coolest looking plane ever! Very retro looking! Glad I went back and looked at this!
Both planes are great. You can't go far wrong in making a friend of James Wright. I have never met James but he is a super cool guy, he always sends replies to comments. People want one to subscribe but can't be bothered with you. James does.
Excellent workmanship. This turned out really well. I know you will love using it. Best wishes
This looks very Art Deco. It looks like an old car. Very sweet design.
You both win first prize on those planes!
Inspired. Inspiring.
That's a beautiful tool that is also functional. You must own the only Art Deco hand plane in the world. :)
It's funny that you say that, because I wasn't thinking Art Deco when I made it, but I do love that style and you're right; it does look Art Deco. Weird.
@@RexKrueger Maybe you should make more art deco tools and pieces. I would pay serious money for some of those. If I had money, that is.
The world's first Steampunk plane.
Ha!
Both of you are amazing! Rex your multimaterial design is supremely impressive, oh my goodness it's beautiful!
I freaking LOVE this!! I need more of these type of collaborations in my life!!!
that's a great looking plane. love the racing stripe
Yeah, that was a happy accident. Didn't have enough of the gray Corian. Still, glad you liked it.
2 awesome planes. Both of you are to be commended on a job well done!
I've been a viewer of Wood By Wright's for some time now, and thanks to this collaboration I am happy to say I am now subscribed to your channel as well. I look forward to seeing more of your work. Thanks for taking the time to share it with us.
It was my pleasure! Thanks for the sub.
David Barr
Same here!
Rex Krueger
Thx for sharing!
James Wright is awesome. Great video and final product. WOW. It kinda resembles my old pinewood derby car from the 70s.
Yup, James is the man. A few people have said it looks like a car. I grew up with two massive car guys and while I never got into the hobby, I do appreciate the looks of a good old car.
Rex: Excellent video. Prototyping is always to work out the problems that might occur in a final build. I do not have the skills to make a plane like this one but I always come away from a video like this learning something I can use. Your thumbscrew is a terrific looking, functional piece I could make (without a lathe) and use in tools I make. Thank you.
My pleasure! I wouldn't be too quick to say you don't have the skills for something like this. It wasn't that hard; mostly time-consuming. As you say, the prototype is crucial and allowed the final build to be a success.
Great job.
Rex, this is a beautiful demonstration of skill, excellent job, fine looking, from a friend in the motor city Detroit Michigan
Great job Rex!
Vary good looking plane, will be interesting to see how it will hold up over time.
Thank you for sharing with us all how you approached this build 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks! I think it's going to hold up really well. My parents have had Corian counters in their kitchen for 20 years
and they have no wear at all. I think this stuff will hold up AT LEAST as well as wood, but only time will tell.
Nice build, hope to see it in frequent use!
That is a real nice piece you built! I like the use of alternative materials.
Great looking plane.
What a beautiful job you did! Truly a wonderful tool to look at; almost a work of artisanry.
I'll admit, that's what I was going for. Thanks so much for your kind appreciation!
Really cool looking plane! I’m getting closer to taking the leap into tool making myself.
Love the idea of using different materials.
Awesome.
Thanks! It started out as a way to make something heavier and stronger than wood, but it ended up being really interesting to work with non-standard materials.
Awesome job! I appreciate the unique yet completely logical materials choice. One thing I’ve been chomping at the bit to do is to fabricate a bench plane. I’ve only been serious into furniture making for a couple months and every time I use one of my bench planes.. I just know I can do it much better. Ridiculous OCD metal fabrication is right up my ally. Maybe when I get it done in the near future I can send it in for you to experiment with and see what you think and share some input.
Came from wood by wright and subbed ! Thanks James !
James sent me.... Your plane is great, like the uncommon materials.
Hey Rex, great job .
great work Mate. Looking forward to see future work from you, keep them coming.
Thanks a lot!
James is awesome. It was really cool seeing such different takes on the same concept. I really like your use of Corian, I may not have thought of that, but now it's floating around my brain. Nice work!
Hey, thanks for saying so. I just subbed to your channel, but I haven't watched any videos yet. I should get on that.
Well thanks for the sub! I hope you enjoy what I have to offer.
It's a beauty Rex!
Great job!
Rex, you are so cool 😎. I learn so much from you.
Reminds me of Art Deco style. Not something you think of with hand tools. Very original and quite nice.
I actually love Art Deco. I don't think I had it in mind, but it's a real influence on me.
This was a really cool build
Thanks very much!
Your plane look very strong rex!
Came here from James' channel -- love your build. It has that retro-cool look like a 1949 Futuramic Oldsmobile 88 or Cleveland Mercury train from 1938. Also like that you went all over the map for materials. Not sure about the Corian, I'll look forward to your long-term performance report on that!
I'm glad you like it! I grew up around old cars and I think that influence comes out in my work. Hard to beat an Olds for looks!
Awesome job! Maybe add a threaded hole on the side where you can thread in a handle when needed
You read my mind! I think I might add a pin, too. That would keep the handle more stable.
Holy crap dude great work looks amazing. Great video your wealth of information
Hey, if the artist thinks it looks good, then my job is done. Thanks a lot!
Rex Krueger ha ha yeah don't ask me if it's functional, I'm all about the aesthetics!
Subbed! Came from Wood By Wright's video, two great videos with very different planes. Looking forward to future content ;)
That's great! I'm really glad James and I could share some subscribers. I feel like anyone who likes my stuff would also like James'.
you will have fun here man!
james wright is the most enthusiastic hand tool user.
No argument from me.
Rex, It´s italian, spelled fonetically like Pee-a-ra-chi.
Great job.
I haven’t seen James version. That said, I know many will disagree with me, but I absolutely find infill type planes (though this is all wood) it really travels away from traditional plane making. I really respect those who have drilled, chiseled and floated the wood planes that have lasted forever. I recently have been following a Chinese gentleman who does a complete plane build with a hammer and chisel. He had it done probably faster than your method with gluing clamping and sawing. He is amazing. He does perfect mitred corners in his tenoned wood frame with nothing more than a square and saw. No jigs, no mitre saws or planes, just basic, very basic tools. Makes me realize how skilled he is, how poor my skills are. Shooting boards and donkeys ears are useful for people like me; totally overkill for people like him.
Rex, I must say that is a gorgeous hand plane. I have several of your plans and your book so I look forward to getting my little shop back from our remodel storage and getting to work. I have a lot of power tools but I am strangely drawn to wanting to use hand tools. I have a old Sears and Roebuck hand plane (I think it would be close to a Stanley #4) that I inherited from either my father or my Uncle that got misplaced for quite a while (my fault) and is in need of restoration. Lots of rust and ball and tote replacement to do. And, of course, bringing the blade and chip breaker back to life. You are teaching me a lot, my friend, and I look forward to building your low bench and Joiners bench. Then I'm going to try my hand at your planers bundle. Fun times ahead I hope. I'll send you some pics to your Instagram as we go along. Thanks for inspiring me.
watching him use power tools feels weird in 2022
Well, I was doing some research today and apparently, a jointer plane IS a shooting plane. The modern use of the term "jointer plane" actually refers to what would have been a "try plane" or "true plane," used to level a board face after taking off material with the jack or fore plane. The two types of planes look almost identical and can even be the same size: the main difference is in the steel. The jointer has a straight edge that's wider than the material it's cutting, which perfects the gluing surface. The truer has a cambered edge, but less cambered than the foreplane, so it helps to smooth wide faces and make them "tried and true". That being the case, Wood By Wright's design makes perfect sense.
I laugh every time I see that "WTF DUDE....." I was driving to work thinking about it and laughed! I like James too, so good luck bro!
I'm glad you like it. I thought it was funny, but I also didn't want to be mean. I'm actually relieved to know James didn't take offense.
What video was this actually in?
Thanks.
You're very welcome!
I have a two foot length of rolled steel channel, about 3" wide, was probably used as a door lintel, I keep looking at it and thinking; Now that would make a nice plane.
I admit, I'm on the lookout for a good piece of channel. Would make a good infill.
For lapping I picked up a piece of granite countertop from a local supplier out of the dumpster. It was free and its very flat.
Score!
@@RexKrueger yeah most of them will give away the sink cutouts, and you cant ask for a better lapping surface.
Use a hard Stone or a red ceramic flap wheel for mill scale. stuffs so hard even zircona has problems with it.
very nice build. You earned one more little sub.
None of them are little. I appreciate every one.
Instead of using screws, if you ever do this again, drill all the way through, countersink, and install rivets from mild steel (aka, a steel rod). Peen the rivet ends over, file them smooth and Bob's your uncle. Unlike the brass phillips-head screws, the rivets will be invisible after filing.
Corian is brittle. I don't think the hammer blows are a good idea, although i do agree that rivets are FANTASTIC.
@@RexKrueger Maybe the steel would protect the Corian. One doesn't have to hit the rivets very hard, so maybe some gentle tapping would eventually get it done.
I like it Rex. It's more complicated then I would build a plane but it's very creative. Your choice of materials reveals a deeper understanding of the problems that are encountered during a build of a miter plane. I'm surprised that neither you or James decided to scew the blade. Just a question.
Chris, I'm glad you like the approach. I was trying to work out the issues of a miter plane and let the materials guide that. In your comment, did you mean "skew"? I originally read it as "screw", but I don't think that's what you meant. As far as skewing the blade, it just seemed harder to do and this thing took a LOT of work as it is. Making it more complicated was not in the plan. I see how a skewed iron is probably better and I might do one in the future. I also might just ramp my shooting board. In theory, this gives a similar effect with less effort.
Man, do you run out of ideas and ways to do them?!?!?!!?? Another great job!
Honestly, my problem is having too many ideas. You should see the list of video topics I have. The problem is figuring out which idea is actually a GOOD idea. That's the trick. I'll tell you when I figure it out.
Beautiful plane. I haven't seen the other video yet so really have to reserve judgement. I too wonder why James' plane is so long. I do prefer planes made from wood though.
I do too, but for the shooter, this worked out well. James' plane is a jointer and it's very nice. He did a great job.
I've had consistently poor results using cyanoacrylate adhesives. Suer glue makes an initially strong bond, but over time (months) it breaks down, as if the bonding element has a half life. I've had pieces literally fall apart, even when not under any stress. I've never had any issues using epoxy.
I really think you should try bluing the steel to not rust!
Did mean skew, sorry about the spelling, and it would be a lot more complicated but I think your plane would have out performed james' plane. They were both really nice. And yours was different. I don't think I ever saw another one like it. So it's one of a kind.
Remember kids if you don't have clamps string is your friend. An old Mexican guitar luthiers trick I stole from my cousins who stole it from the guy that made their guitars haha.
Fantastic job! What do you think would happen if the blade was ground at some angle, so it hit the shooting board at a skew? Would that make a difference in performance? It upld mean all the mouth angles would be compound.
impressive, way beyond my skill set
You'd be surprised. It wasn't so tough; just time-consuming.
Rex Krueger, thanks, I should try it. I have several tools in my shop that I built or refurbished, I get comments on them too but nothing like the things you have made. I love tools and making something like that could be really satisfying. It will have to wait until I get my left arm is out of the cast, I am really looking forward to get back in my shop.
Awesome plane! It really looks beautiful and obviously works well. What did you do to keep the steel sides from rusting in the future?
I just slapped on a coat of paste-wax. My tools also tend to stay dry, but you're right that rust is a concern. I'm a little worried about it, too. Might look into stainless for the next one.
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Where did you get the Corian pieces? That’s an amazingly beautiful piece of artwork that is also functional.
I think that’s going to be one of your favorites! Looks great. When your not making your own blades where would you suggest we get ours (on a budget)?
That is SUCH a difficult question. Hock blades are great, but they cost too much. You can get Stanley-style irons on Amazon for really cheap, but they don't come with chip-breakers and a chip-breaker is pretty necessary for a thin iron like that. Stanley does sell an iron/chip-breaker combo now for $22, but I find that a little steep for a plain old Stanley style iron. If you look at my "Make the Easiest Smoothing plane Ever" video, I make a good iron out of a big chisel for $13. Also, 1095 steel isn't that expensive and doing the heat treat yourself isn't hard; just time-consuming. Its a good project where you learn a lot.
Rex Krueger Yes I saw that excellent video you made. So I’m guessing just look for used 2” plane blades (which I assume are the most common?) with the chipper and be ready to put a back and edge on it? Thanks!
I think the most common blades you'll find are 2 inches or just slightly under. Either way, it doesn't make a ton of difference so long as you get the blade before you make the plane. That's what matters.
That is a gorgeous plane. Well done. Were you influenced by "Streamline Moderne" design?
Not that I know of. I was thinking of Art Deco, old cars, and the infill planes made by Sauer and Steiner. Now, I'm going to go the wikipedia rabbit hole of Streamline Moderne. Thanks for killing my next two hours!
I just got my Buck Bros 2" chisel the other day intending to make a low angle plane after watching your smoothing plane series. This couldn't have been posted at a better time for me!
Awesome! I'm still really happy with the iron I made with that buck chisel and I think it's a good approach for someone with limited tools and low funds.
Terrific build! I am so curious and couldn't find any info on the internet... why are 37 degree bed angle, bevel down planes so rare in the marketplace?
I can't say for sure, but these days pretty much everyone associates "low angle" with "bevel-up." There's a lot of hype around bevel-up planes and so that's what tool manufacturers make. It's very hard to make a bevel-up plane in the home shop because the bed has to be very thin. Wood is too fragile for that kind of plane, so you need some other material. Honestly, I don't even think Corian would work. But for the home plane maker, making a low-angle bevel DOWN plane is no big deal. Thanks for watching and asking a really good question!
Random question, does Corian need to be greased like iron planes or can it be left alone like wood planes?
I like your idea of using Corian. Back in the day, the only way to get small pieces was to beg a sink cutout from a certified Corian installer. Is it freely available now?
If you're limber enough to jump into dumpsters, then it's out there.
@@RexKrueger Uh, I pop and crack like a mule when I bend my knees.
Among the three not between which indicates only two
You could have done the rough dressing with a file.
adam whiteson Thank you for that totally helpful comment.
Well I did in fact mean to be helpful. The file is underrated. With some practice you can dress a surface to quite high precision. This is the way the Victorian "mechanics" worked.
I do have a Q? If this plane is designated for end grain work, why would you worry about the mouth? End grain doesn't tear out ahead of the blade.
Well, I wanted a plane that would be as useful as possible. I also want to be in control of all the aspects of the tool. If I'm aiming for a tight mouth, I want to hit that mark so I can do it the next time.
I think content creators get irritated with "you could have" comments. I could have done all kinds of things. This is what I did. On the other hand, if someone starts with "Did you consider" or "Have you ever tried..." it just comes off as more helpful. I get your intent now that you explain it, but phrasing is king on the internet. Thanks for keeping the conversation going so we could be on the same page.
I like your plane better Rex.
You're very kind. I think James' is pretty great, too.
@@RexKrueger his seemed to work better than I figured it would. I'm chalking it up to the magic of video.
Rex, can i ask you which is the purpose of a miter plane? I have a flea market iron, 44 mm narrow , and i am planning to build the body plane around it but i know too little about
A bit late, but how is this plane holding up? It looks stunning, but I don't recall seeing it used in any of your projects in the last two years or so? (Nor have I seen James' being used, for that matter)
It works fine, but just fine. I eventually bought the Veritas shooting plane. It was pricey, but totally worth it, especially for the ergonomics.
9:55 That's what she said.
Okay, that was a bit of a stretch, but congratulations, you found something unintentionally dirty in there. Good work!
How is the channel vs. "real" work going?
Let us know how the Corian wears.
It's been 6 months. Still looks good.
Hi where and what is the glue bucket you use? Jakob
Glue bucket?
@@RexKrueger sorry i am not so good at writing english. the one you use to glue with. :-)
So not a hand tool day. :)
How heavy was the final plane?
Very. Several pounds.
What is up with cutting the oak then gluing it back together. I think I know but would rather ask then speculate wrongly.
He meant cutting a long board into smaller lengths and then gluing those together to make it thicker
Could James have made it so long be to add mass?
Funny you should ask. You might remember that I said James' plane looks like a jointer? Well, it is a jointer. Mystery solved. You should watch his video. It's great.
If you want to make it out of wood, but still have mass, couldn't you make a hollow in the wood and fill it with lead?
Sure! I also think just the steel sides probably adds a lot of mass.
If you want to see some beautiful hand made planes, and get some great ideas, check out Young Je on his RUclips channel.
Yup, already a big fan of his. He's doing so well with traditional and infill planes that it pushed me to experiment more. I can't compete with that!
Rex Krueger practice, practice, practice. The more we do, generally the better we get at things. Of course most of us have other things to do besides build handplanes. Young has so many built and does such a nice job, that he has some listed for sale up to (as far as I've seen) $1200. Out of my price range, but building my own would be a better fit to my budget. Will they be as nice as his, or even yours? Probably not, unless I build so many that the technique improves. Thanks for sharing your build.
Nice,but ALWAYS remove the black mill scale from steel before gluing or epoxying,otherwise you are only gluing to the film,NOT metal.It's like gluing to a painted part,only nastier.....I know you did the outside,but I didn't see you remove the scale from the glued sides....
I think you take too much thickness of a shaving when you are shooting...excuse my poor English, I'm French, nobody is perfect
You could be right. I can set the new plane for a very thin shaving and it's working better. That's a good tip. Don't worry about your English; I understood you perfectly!