I sold my a7IV for the S5II back in February, and couldn’t be happier!!! Things that are better in real world use, shooting run&gun for 6 months with each: LCD screen, IBIS, controls and customization, shutter angle, open gate, waveforms, Framemarkers, switching from photo and video in a pinch, exposing and grading Log footage, overheating. AF in the S5II works fantastic in the 1-area using eye detect.
I'm right there with you in the shutter angle and open gate! It was painful to have to turn those down! Lol I do find it interesting that you prefer the S5ii's switch from photo/video modes to be better, I quite like Sony's implementation of it. Goes to show how subjective it can be. Thanks for checking out the video and sharing your thoughts! Hopefully this can help someone make their decision!
@@TroyMairs the problem with the way the a7IV does the photo/video switching, is that in a7IV I had setup the custom modes (C1, C2…) as my different framerates video, since it doesn’t have Shutter Angle. So whenever I switched from video to photo I was on a C profile, meaning it was usually not the mode I needed for photo (just the default manual). With the S5II, because of shutter angle I don’t even need to use the C modes for video, so with one flick of the dial I switch back and forth from manual video and photo, and it remember the settings I was in.
Just did the same thing! Well i still have to sell the a7iv but im loving the s5ii. The stabilization blows the a7iv out of the water. Makes me actually enjoy shooting handheld video
I like sony, but in this duel Lumix wins for me. For video - mega stabilizer, Open Gate, anamorph support, in cooperation with leica: very high-quality color rendering. Cooling, cheaper SD cards, special price, all original lumix lenses are parafocal, do not breathe, have a smooth aperture, L-mount: Lumix, Leica, Sigma, DJI, canon EF also works with adapter. Robust body resistant to dust and splash proof. Good LCD and peaking assistant, many film functions. CONS: it doesn't have as perfect autofocus as Sony, it doesn't have a live HDMI 50i output
I saw some comments that said the HDMI out live has no lag if you turn off audio out through HDMI. But you hit the nail on the head with my this. This will be my first mirrorless camera 📸
Sounds like you know where you're priorities are! Fortunately for all of us, there really isn't a "wrong" decision to make here! Either way you go, you'll have a fantastic hybrid camera at your finger tips! :)
I had to come back to this thread. After years of Sony diehard shooting, I hate to say it… Hard pill to swallow, after a couple Luxury Wedding Shoots, Image, Codecs, Cinema type settings, shutter angle, metering features, open gate, B-RAW… no overheating… I’m definitely in different shoes now.
@@farshaxan Yes, and the opinion has not changed. Since I am satisfied, I invested even more: I bought the entire Lumix Prime lens f1.8 series. They are designed for filmmakers. SPro 16-35 + Spro 24-70 + 24-70 for Photo/video/TV and Sirui 50mm anamorhp for video/little bit photo. The colors are amazing, the stabilizer has no competition. The focus is sufficient. What could panasonic improve: fullframe 4K 50p, lower latency via HDMI, Fullframe FullHD 50p phase auto focus. Less rolling shutter effect at 4K and 6K - probably only a new model will solve this. After looking at the results 3 of my friends are considering buying a Lumix S5II (S5IIx). Excellent price/performance ratio. It is not only a video camera but also a great photo. I use it for: low budget commercial videos (social networks and TV), TV programs, live events and hobby photos. Handheld, autofocus, opengate 6K, internal recording - no problem :)
Hey fellow filmmakers! 🎥 Had to drop my two cents on the Sony A7 IV vs. Panasonic S5 II debate, especially after owning both powerhouses for a solid six months. Now, don't get me wrong, the A7 IV is a photo marvel. The dial that keeps settings intact during mode switches is pure genius. But let's dive into the video realm, shall we? 🎬 The Panasonic S5 II has completely won me over, especially after half a year of hands-on experience. First off, that menu interface is a dream - user-friendly and a breeze to navigate. And can we talk about the 6K open gate and the magnificent IBIS? It's like having a cinematic wizard right in your hands for every shot. The A7 IV might get a bit heated after a 45-minute 4K 60fps session in 30°C weather, but the S5 II stays cool with its fan - a total game-changer. And let's not forget the monitoring tools on the S5 II - waveforms, LUT support, the whole shebang. Perfect for those who want to finesse their shots to perfection. Plus, the seamless compatibility with the Ronin Gimbal? It's a match made in videography heaven. Sure, the A7 IV can output stunning shots, but the S5 II takes it up a notch with RAW capabilities - a feature that, unfortunately, the A7 IV missed out on. And firmware updates? Panasonic is on top of their game, constantly fine-tuning and enhancing the S5 II experience. Sony, on the other hand, not so much in the update department. Now, let's talk value for money. After half a year with both, the S5 II is a video powerhouse without burning a hole in your pocket. Sony might have the upper hand in the photo game and a broader lens selection, but if you're all about that cinematic life, the Panasonic S5 II is the clear winner in my book. So, to my fellow creators out there, especially those who've had both in their arsenal - give the Panasonic S5 II a serious look. It might just be the video sidekick you didn't know you needed. 🌟 #TeamS5II #FilmmakerLife
Hey! Really great thoughts! I appreciate you taking the time to articulate these and for contributing to the conversation in a really helpful manner :) Obviously we came to different conclusion on which camera was the right one for us, but the good news is that they are both incredible tools to work with and you can't go too wrong either way! Hopefully someone is able to make a more informed decision based on the video and comments likes these, thanks again. Pumped to have you here :)
I sold my a7iv for the 6k open gate video, shutter angle, full hdmi port, and way better in body stabilization. I hate using gimbals because of time constraints during shooting. Panasonic is the King of IBIS. Also, real time LUTs played a big part to the reason I chose the S5ii. Video features for the money, nothing touches or even comes close to the s5ii/iix.
One thing that should be said about the ‘little bit cheaper and plasticky’ comment is that you were likely referring to the lens while comparing a GM £1500 to an S series prime. £550. The S5ii x uses the same materials for its body and LUMIX cameras have traditionally been more robust in terms of durability and weather sealing.
That's a fair point! The lenses themselves aren't necessarily a fair comparison given the price differences, they are the most comparable lens option in my opinion though. So I think it is at least a noteworthy thing for a potential buyer to consider. As far as the body itself goes, you're probably right in that the two are much closer in build quality. I'd still give the nod to Sony but it may be negligible. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! :)
Yeah that comment threw me off. If anything, the sony body feels cheap and plasticky, while the Panasonic looks like a retro beauty, built like a tank. I have zero complaints with my S5ii
I am sure you will enjoy the A7 IV. I've had the A7 IV for more than a year and I quite like it but having just bought the S5 IIx and tested for a couple of weeks... I must be honest, I prefer it over the Sony. Overheat is a big issue for me but the compatibility with EF lenses, better stabilization, recording to SSD, open gate and menus that make sense are the main reasons. But yes, both are amazing cameras and we are lucky to be spoiled for choice 😅
Thanks for hanging out Ramon! You make some great points! The S5iix will undoubtedly be a fun camera to work with and I'm sure it will serve you well! Happy shooting :)
@@photosblossomsau1624 I guess it can be done but I am not able to match them perfectly even using cinematch... If you plan to do it for a paid project I would not recommend to mix camera brands. It's simply not worth the time spent in post. And it's not just the color, the Lumix is noticeably sharper and more contrasty, for example. Since it's just a hobby for me I don't mind to spend time color grading but if I had a deadline It would stress me to death.
So interesting, I’ve always found Panasonic to have better UI and layout compared to Sony cameras. I have the GH5 and the Sonys always felt cold and electronic by comparison :)
Isn't that interesting?? Lol we can all pick up the same cameras and feel drawn to one over the other! I expected to feel the same way about the Sonys so I even surprised myself with this one :) Thanks for checking out the vid!
You have presented compelling reasons to purchase the S5ii, not so much for the a7iv. No shutter angle, focus breathing etc. I have experienced overheating on the a7iv quite a few times. I have the Sony a7siii, and I have never had a problem with it. I can’t begin to tell you how happy I am with the release of the upgraded S5ii. I will definitely be switching to the S5iix.
That's great! There ARE compelling reasons to buy the S5II, so I'm glad this video helped you solidify your decision! I have loved my decision and I'm sure you will to!
The real biggest win for the S5iix is the ability to record video and stills directly to SSD, record pro-res, internally/braw over usb c AND HDMI is insane. $129 for a 2tb T7 ssd vs $400 for 2tb of cf express type b storage is a big factor. The fact the S5iix supports EF/L mount/m42/MFT/PL lens systems is, from a video perspective; a definitive win.
I've never felt super comfortable with using external recordings. I'm always worried a cable may get bumped or simply stop working. I might be among the few that feel that way though, because it seems to be a pretty standard practice! That's maybe why that specific feature of the S5iix didn't carry as much weight for me. Glad you're happy with your decision though! Thanks for checking out the video!
LUMIX for IBIS & video features/color. Sony for variety of bodies and lens. AF can be improved with firmware. Sony strategy is to keep on making many more new models on both FF & APSC, while LUMIX improves on firmware update on their limited models.
I switched from a7iv to lumix s5ii.. Auto focus is the only thing I miss from Sony.. I would say I have 90% performance with Lumix AF.. You could say a word about open gate )) Lumix is winner ))
Thanks for sharing your experience! Oddly enough I wasn't finding myself using open gate all that often actually. It may have been that I often forgot it was an option! lol so I probably didn't give that feature a fair shake, thats on me! Thanks again!
I got more confuse than before. Which camera going to test? First the talk is about Lumix S5ii vs Sony a7iv, but the title is about S5iix vs Sony a7iv. 🤔😲
Sorry to confuse you! The video is primarily comparing the Sony A7iv to the Lumix S5iix but there are a lot of similarities between the S5iix and the s5ii so some of the information will overlap!
I've never really used SONY's for video.. Maybe once or twice for a few projects, (A7SII) but for a WHILE now I've been on Panasonic / Lumix for video. GH4, GH5, GH6, and then currently the S5II. The most interesting thing is, while I knowww and LOVE the camera for video, I just used it for the first time the other day for PHOTOS and man, I was impressed. I usually shoot Fuji for photos but, the S5II really impressed me the other day. Love what I got, might make prints w/ a few of them. Just felt good to have the full-frame image again. I missed that for a while.
I love this! I'm glad to hear you've made your decision and are happy with the results! It's easy to think the "grass is greener" somewhere else. Where in reality, we can make some awesome stuff with the cameras we have today. Regardless of the brand!
Yea the crop can really be a bummer on any camera. It makes perfect sense why it has to happen, and it shouldn't be an issue, but its always kind of annoyed me :)
The priorities matter. And the "overheating" may mean either the "single-film" time, or "you literally can't use camera until it cools down". I've got myself in a trouble, because had mistaken first for second in EOS R6. R6 overheated and needed a cooldown 6 times at one project. And now - no expensive FF camera without cooling will be my choice. But I am very interested in S9 tbh. Want to see the progress of sensor technology and passive camera body cooling overall. All said - Your priorities matter. Godspeed!
Same, I'm really enjoying having two identical cameras. Same settings, same rigs, same everything. I've never done that in the past and its been fantastic.
Wow, Troy, that was such a great review of both cameras. And I loved your style of having a final verdict and making a definitive answer. I loved your straight to the point no bs style. Bravo, great job! Keep it up!
Haha well hopefully you didn't watch until the end where I said “buy the a7iv” 😂 The Lumix is going to serve you really well! You can feel confident in that choice!
They're both great cameras but it's all going to come down to very small preferences in the grand scheme of things. For me I went the opposite direction and went panasonic. Coming from a GH5 I liked the panasonic menu system better, I've been digging a lot of the L mount lineup lenses and a lot of the work that has gone into those, but the most decisive point for me was V-Log color. I work with a lot of different color profiles from a lot of different cameras but V-Log I find is just more neutral and easier to dial into custom looks for me. All that said I had to buy new cameras for my department at work and wound up going Sony for those. Why? Because we needed a combination of cinema cameras and hybrid cameras to work along side one another seamlessly and the FX6/FX9 are just much better offerings in the cinema camera space than what panasonic has right now. Maybe if the EVA - 02 comes out someday it'll change that dynamic but right now there's a space for both systems, tho that space is closing rapidly.
You hit the nail on the head there! The differences are nearly negligible in the grand scheme of things, and we're very fortunate as creators in that we really can't go wrong either way :) It is interesting you opted for the Sony for work and Panasonic for personal!
@@TroyMairs I think the key is scalability, or how I'm able to achieve scalability in both environments. For work each camera will be dedicated to a specific kit and which will have a specific purpose, you need a cinema camera you grab an fx6 and go to town, if you need a mirrorless you grab an a7 and do what you gotta do. For my personal camera I need something that can be adapted to wear a lot of hats and that's where the S5 shines. I can run and gun with the S5 as an everyday carry mirrorless just like the A7 but I can also build it up into a cinema camera with some addtional rigging, monitor, hard drive recorder etc, and I have the ability to really dial in the record format settings to fit other people's work flows rather than the set work flow we use in house at work. S5 lets me adapt to other people's production worlds, where as the sony gives me more tools for building a solid world for a team of a lot of people.
I thoroughly enjoyed your review of these two cameras. While the S5II(x) may appear to be a better option based on specifications and features, I currently find myself more drawn to the A7IV for its superior autofocus, impressive lens selection, and comprehensive ecosystem. If someone reads this, and like me, have delved into a deeper study of these cameras, you'll recognize that both produce exceptional images, as long as you have the appropriate lenses. In my opinion, the S5II(x) leans more towards videography, while the A7IV is more geared towards photography. If you're primarily a photographer seeking exceptional video capabilities while simultaneously expanding your collection of superb GM lenses, the A7IV will prove to be a valuable investment, especially when considering future cinema-line camera purchases. Remember, emotion rules over technical correctness.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I think you're right on, there is more to the camera decision than just the camera itself. Which is where the ecosystem comes in to play! I appreciate the comment and insight!
Anamorphic support in-camera is a big deal for me. Awesome to not have to use an external monitor whenever I shoot anamorphic. Both cameras are great though. For sure.
Great Vid - thanks man. I have borrowed both and in the end I bought the Lumix because it was more "budget-friendly" for my use cases. But I can absolutely understand your reasons for Sony. In my opinion pana absolutely wins in terms of price to performance ratio. It's insane how "cheap" the f1.8 primes are for the quality they offer. And personally I like the more "bulky" design of the Body. It just fits better in my hand. On the other hand the are no better lenses than the ne Sony gm primes. I also used the gm 35 f1.4 and I never saw something similar sharp wide open in a extrem small body. Not to mention the Sony af is just magic.
"Price-to-Performance" Ratio, I love that! I might try to find a way to incorporate that metric in to future videos :) I think you're absolutely right in that the S5ii has an incredible price-to-performance ratio both for the body and those lenses. The fact that they have so little optical breathing is just amazing. Thanks for commenting! Pumped to have you here!
For me, the main point of Sony are the GM lenses, they are great ! The 35mm and 50mm GM are ultra sharp wide open with very good microcontrast, they are just fantastic lenses. The 135mm GM is slightly less sharp wide open (still very good) and ultra sharp stopped down, the 85mm GM has one of the best rendering I ever seen from a 85mm lenses, colors and bokeh are very nice. Now, from Panasonic, for me there are only 2 fantastic lenses : The 24-70mm S Pro with extraordinary microcontrast, sense of volume and depth (the Sony 24-70mm GMII is far from this level even if it's as sharp). The 50mm S Pro, not as sharp wide open as the 50mm GM, it is only f1.4 but with better sense of depth, and nicer colors in my opinion. The little 50mm and 85mm S are very good lenses, they are very sharp with good rendering, but they are not as good as the S Pro lenses. About the 70-200mm S Pro f2.8, I tried two samples and they were not as good as the 24-70mm, weight is a problem too, especially compared to the 70-200mm GM II. I also use Sigma lenses on my Panasonic cameras, I have a love/hate relationship with them, most of them are very sharp with very good microcontrast, but colors and and overall rendering are much less nice than the S Pro and GM lenses to my eyes, I don't speak about Leica lenses because I only owned the SL 50mm f1.4 and they are too expensive for me. AF is better on the A7IV, even if some reviews say they are equal, I have both camera (S5II and A7IV) since they're out and using both photo and video, I'd say the Panasonic is about 80% of the Sony IBIS is much better on the S5II, every reviewer saying they are equal must have a serious Sony bias. Just an annoying thing on both cameras, the temporal noise reduction. The S5/S1/S1H have better detail rendering in low light with most profiles.
Great insights! Thanks for sharing! I do agree the Sony lenses are generally going to be better, but those S Pro lenses are pretty cool! Specifically the physical clutch for switching from manual/auto focus!
Lumix all day until you want to hook up an external monitor and pull focus manually than it sucks. There is so much lag and the only way to improve that lag is to turn the audio recording off and externally record your audio but it’s still has more lag through the hdmi port than Sony. I would have picked this camera up for sure but with Sony’s better af system and faster hdmi port for manually focusing the Sony is a no brainer even though the Lumix is feature packed and the overall better camera on paper it’s not in use.
The HDMI lag was an interesting "con" as well that not many people have been talking about! I run on external monitors almost exclusively, and the lag is at least worth noting for anybody else that may be trying to make this decision. Thanks for shedding some light on it!
Love the honest review and how you respond back to all the comments. I’ll be watching more of your reviews for sure. Can you talk about using an external monitor a little more and which one you use and why you use it as I am considering one of these cameras and would love to hear more feedback from someone who uses external monitors. Thanks again!!!😊
@@jimgunderson6439 Thanks Jim! I love the conversations down in the comments 👍 I don’t have many other “camera buffs” in my inner circle but I love talking cameras so this is a great outlet! I have been using the Hollyland Mars M1 monitors exclusively for about 8 months or so. The (almost) sole reason is that they have the built in wireless video transmission and I really enjoy being able to view a feed on a larger directors monitor primarily , or sometimes on a second M1 monitor when I’m not the one operating my camera. If I had to rig/power a seperate transmitter I would never do it and the. I’d be missing out on those benefits that come with it. It’s not a perfect monitor, but the color rendition is great and the brightness is useable. I don’t particularly like the placement of the HDMI port, and I wished the DC-In port had a locking connector, but I can deal with those things :)
Hey Paule! Thanks for checking out my vid :) (I'm a fan of your channel!) Panasonic really did nail the colors straight out of camera on this body! If I had to choose based on color science alone, it would definitely be the S5iix. I switch up cameras more than I should... lol so the C70 is out the door and Sony is getting the call for the next few years! I'll work with these bodies for some time while I build up my E-Mount lens collection, then I'm hoping an Fx6 mk2 makes an appearance :)
@@TroyMairs thanks and likewise 😎 I just got a C70 as a all in one cam since Komodo isn’t always the best option ha ha. Wish you much success with the Sony the fx cameras especially fx6 is just so versatile true.
@@PaulePorter Ahh great choice! I went from a Komodo to the C70 for the same reason :) I would be willing to bet that an FX camera is also in my future! I might let these A7IVs shoulder the load until the newest version comes out! Thanks again for checking out my video Paule! Pumped to have you here!
I have never heard any one talk about the port placement. I'm a lumix guy and that's certainly a win for Sony. Not sure why lumix of all people never thought of that yet... Its been a huge pain for me on my G9
Right?? Thanks for commenting! When I had these camera side-by-side on a tripod I ran into that issue almost immediately. What's funny is that if you didn't have them next to each other you probably wouldn't notice the difference! Thanks for checking out the vid!
Great review, although I love how the Lumix looks on this video, it looks a bit sharper and more defined with that side shot… I don’t know if it’s the shadows…? #🎉
Im glad you were able to make the call for yourself! I hoped in the side by side you'd be able to see if you were pulled towards one image over the other. There isn't an objectively "right" answer here, just the one you prefer :)
Thank you for the input. A7iv here I come. "Market support" is important when you live in Brazil. By the way, what font you used in the titles/captions during the video?
Us panasonic users are better fillmmakers than most because we dont need auto focus. Now that we have a good one, we just see it as a little bonus that we probably wont even use that much. 😃
I currently have several Sony cameras A7siii, a7Riv and the A7iv and have owned many Sony cameras previously because I invested in Sony glass and have always been a Sony fanboy but I also have the s5iix and a bunch of black magic cameras and love the Panasonic because I get braw with autofocus and image stabilization. The s5iix is an amazing tool all of these cameras can get the job done except the A7iv. It overheats like crazy at the worst times. Do not buy and do not listen to any reviews of people telling you to buy if you do video. It overheats in 3 minutes down here in Florida. It’s the only Sony I’ve ever had a problem with. Do not use on any paid shoots. It will let you down if you use 4k 10 bit. 4k 10 bit is unusable might as well buy a $2500 brick with the words 4k 10 bit etched into the stone. My DJI pocket 3 does 4k 10 bit with no problems. No brainer get the Panasonic.
Thanks for sharing your opinion! Hopefully people can check out your videos sharing your personal experience with the cameras! :) It seems that mileage tends to vary on the A7IV, i haven't had an issue yet with mine! Paid shoot or not. Thanks for checking out the video!
I watched until the end but have to mention, you WILL get over heating if you shoot 60p 4K with the A7IV in a semi hot location. I live in South America and it is Hot and dry here in the summer, Nothing like Florida at all. More like California and I get over heating a lot. And yes I have all the settings to high, leave my LCD out etc etc.. But again I am shooting 90% in 60P 4K. Usually turning Off and On the camera fixes it temporarily but is is frustrating when on set with clients.
I hear that! There is definitely a piece of me that worries about that, but my camera in in 24p 90% of the time, and only in 60p for a few shots here and there. So I felt it was a calculated risk worth taking for myself. But THANK YOU for sharing your experience with it, that may very well help someone else!
As per the overheating … I have been using the A7 IV intensively from it’s release and it never overheated or came even close to it. I shot many all day events, when the recording ran 4 hours continuously and no problems at all. I love this camera but I have few complains: 4K/50p only in crop mode (the same applies to the S5IIX), the display quality could be better and the magnification of the EVF is weird, as it is hard to see the whole image and so it is harder to see the framing for me (I didn’t have this problem with the A7III or other cameras). Otherwise it is an excellent camera and the oversampled 4K image is fantastic and hard to beat. And the low light performance is also excellent with the second native ISO 3200, which is very clean.
I've had a really similar experience, thanks for sharing your thoughts as well! At the end of the stick, I've really enjoyed the camera system! Thanks for checking out the video!
Sold my A7IV after six months due to ergonomics and handling. Always felt like I was fighting the camera to get the shot I wanted. Still not certain about LUMIX FF (waiting for more resolution on an updated model), but I know the systems and layout from the MFT G9 (and earlier) and its ergonomics and UI is leaps and bounds more tuned to my liking over Sony.
Thanks for sharing your experience! Its always interesting they way we can each connect/bond with a certain camera or brand and its always a different experience for everyone!
I've been a Nikon photographer since high school and for the last 15 years i've been renting Canon 5D's and then Sony mirrorless for all my video work. Now I own a Z8 and I can confidently say I have no reason to touch an A7S3 ever again. Never having to deal with Prores ever again is lovely. the Panasonic S5, Sony A7S3, and Nikon Z9/8 have 0.2 spread dynamic range between them all. Cant speak for Panasonic, but the files of the Nikon are way easier to extract the maximum out out, and their video menu features are more fleshed out than Sony. You cant really compare because the Nikon is $1000 more and is one of the best photographic cameras ever made, but consumers will be doing themselves a disservice by not paying attention to Nikons next iteration of their less expensive bodies.
Thanks for the notice! Nikon really does seem to get a bad rap, and it may very well be unwarranted. I shot with some of the first iterations if the Z6/Z7 and didn't have a bad experience back then. I'm sure it has only improved!
@@TroyMairs I did lots of decent work with my Z6 and Ninja V. It performed better than the A73 at the time. I never did update to Prores Raw but getting 12-bit prores raw on a 2018 Nikon was something nobody really cared to believe in.
Troy this is a really dumb question, so I hope it's okay to ask this here. At 2:31 and other points, your 'apple-styled' text pops up as white on a white background, but shows up so well and looks really professional. When I do this it looks plain, basic and blends into the background. Is this a particular style of dropshadow FX you're using? Sorry if this is obvious or a pain when you're trying to talk about camera comparisons. It just really stuck out to me 😅
Lol, I appreciate that you appreciate the graphics :) Thanks Dave! Not a dumb question at all! I don't know that there is a specific type of drop shadow that would work better than another, but I can tell you how I did my graphics! I use MotionVFX for everything! RUclips, commercial work, you name it! The pack I use on my YT channel is "mKeynote" - I drag and drop the animated text graphics into my Resolve timeline and what you see in my video is what you get! (font, motion, drop shadow, everything!) I'll link it below for you to check out for yourself! mvfx.co/TroyMairs
@@TroyMairs This was such a helpful reply! Thanks so much for taking the time to explain and link resources. Just had a look and installing now to check it out. Will keep an eye out for your future videos too! Thanks again
I just noticed the song in the background....currently debating whether or not to spend a little extra and get the A7IV. I've never owned a Sony camera but I've had a little experience with Panasonic. I'm photography focused right now but I do plan on doing video from time to time so I've been back and forth over the last few days trying to make a decision....I'm still leaning towards the S5iiX because I can grow into all the video stuff it offers, but for photo especially I need fast and perfect autofocus in even challenging lighting conditions and good high iso performance
Glad you picked up on the song! :) Fortunately you can't go wrong with either! When it comes to growing with a camera, I liked the Sony route because of all the other cameras/lenses/accessories that you could upgrade to or add to your kit as you grow! Thanks for checking out the vid!
Great point! I shoot video first and foremost, so that is where my experience and knowledge ar at. I didn't do a lot of photo work with these cameras, but I know that photographers often appreciate a higher pixel count when it comes the their raw images, which is where the Sony would have an edge. Thanks for checking out the video, great question!
Most camera systems have matched eachother in terms of specs and image quality, which means there are two factors that really differentiate systems, in my opinion- Features/Tools and glass. I would say that Lumix has been killing it when offering professional tools and features. Waveforms, shutter angle, anamorphic desqueeze, etc really make the camera easier to use and better in professional environments. Sony's E-mount offers an insane amount of options for glass and AF for solo/run and gun. It depends on what you are creating and it's just a matter of picking the right tool for the job. I would go for the Lumix and day. The fact that it has open gate is the biggest factor. Open gate is a must, once you've used it and it makes the camera so much more flexible. My issue with Sony is that it takes so long for them to update their cameras and add features. I'm not saying Sony makes bad cameras, but I feel like they lack key features in the video department and not having open gate really gimps the camera if you are shooting anamorphic.
Thanks for checking out the video, and I appreciate the support :) Form factor and ease of use are becoming more and more important now that the image quality between cameras become so comparable.
Honestly a VERY easy choice for me between these two. S5IIx any day over the A7IV, only perhaps the A7SIII or more realistically the FX3 gives the S5IIx a run for its money for film work.
I was entirely convinced the S5IIx was going to be the answer for me too! I was bummed to not enjoy it in person as much as I had hoped. Fortunately, we can’t go wrong with either! :) thanks for checking out the vid!👍
@@TroyMairs in my book if you want to shoot amazing photos too, get an R5C. Otherwise this debate doesn’t hinge around photo capabilities comparing the A7IV and S5IIx with 33Mpx not really giving anything but a stat advantage. That’s fair though because at the end of the day usability is most important. Also I would argue that the A7IV being the standard is a RUclips illusion, I’ve not seen that be the case at all in the working professional hybrid market.
This is a really good video but the title is slightly misleading. I was looking for a definite answer on why one was better than the other but going with the A7 iv for was more of your personal preference. Other than that, good video.
Thanks Howard! I appreciate the feedback, and I apologize if I mislead you in any way! I don't know if there truly is a "definite" answer to be had between the two systems, unfortunately. They both outperform each other in different areas, so you'll have to decide which areas are most important to you. I really struggled with the decision, and having used them both, I hoped to just share my thoughts, experience, and reasoning! Pumped to have you here, and best of luck on the decision!
Right after watching several other videos comparing these 2 video cameras, I made an Educated guess & came to the conclusion that the you were Definitely going to go with the LUMIX over the Sony. The List of Reasons That I thought that you were going to go with the LUMIX over the Sony are still the same 1. LUMIX S52 & S52X both Beat the Sony at Eliminating Overheating Completely. The Sony offers no Solution to what I’ve been reading are serious overheating issues That The Sony Full Frame A7 series cameras from the A73 Until Now all face. This includes all Sony Super 35 or APSC Sensord cameras except for the 3 Sony Cinema Line Cameras, The FX3, FX30 & The FX6. 2. The lack of Entirely fixing The Green and purple fringing and tint That is a nightmare to ColorGrade out of skin tones. Although this is something that overtime Sony has gradually worked at reducing in skin tones, it’s just not something that Sony has taken a full intent approach at eliminating with the introduction of any new Camera which to most is ridiculous at this point. This is something Canon has never had an issue with & it’s something that LUMIX hasn’t had an issue with either. 3. Sony’s Have Begun To develop a widespread online reputation for being uninspiring to shoot on/with overtime. 4. The Panasonic S52 & GH6 Series cameras are commonly referred to as Inspiring Cameras to Want to get up, take out & Shoot Cinema On. Most attribute this to the more accurate color science That results in more natural looking skin tones coming from the LUMIX Series cameras. 5. Therefore, I’m just Surprised that You didn’t find the Sony to be more Clinical or Technical to Shoot with when compared to the LUMIX S52. 6. The LUMIX is loaded with over double the Professional all intra, SSD Pro Res & Raw Recording Codecs which all open up the option of delivering Pro Cinema Quality footage whether shooting Music Videos, Weddings, Engagements, & Clothing Commercials or product work For Corporate Clients. 7. The LUMIX definitely offers far more performance with Shutter Angle, Open Gate, anamorphic de squeeze etc compared to the Sony which offers none. 8. The LUMIX also offers Waveform, VectorScopes, Unlimited Recording in all Intra Resolutions & Frame Rates Internally with Pro Res at 1080 Internally While offering pro res & Raw out to ssd as a Future proof of their camera. 9. LUMIX does this at almost half the price. 10. So far superior performance for almost half the price.
Thanks for sharing your insight! It looks like you've really done your research, which is great. I'm sure the S5iix will perform really well for you if that's the route you went :) For me, the market support and ecosystem around the Sony system carried quite a bit of weight.
Wow. Every Sony camera?? That's wild! I've yet to experience any overheating on my A7IV/Fx3. Everyone seems to have a different experience with them! Thanks for checking out the video!
In which of these two cameras is the moiré effect more noticeable when shooting video? The S5IIX does not have an AA filter, but it is not certain whether the A7IV has one, as the information on the Internet varies.
On paper, the A7IV should produce less moire given its AA filter. In the real world, I hadn't noticed much of a difference, but my time with the S5IIx was realtively short in that regard. Great question, thanks for checking out the vid!
Loved the analysis, and you helped me make a choice on my next camera. I think im going Lumix (An upgrade from the canon eos m50 im using now) stayed for the review, subscribed because of the closing song choice.
Thanks Benjamin, I appreciate you checking out the vid! The good news is, you can't go wrong with either camera! They are both fantastic! Glad you liked the song selection, pumped to have you here:) Have a Merry Christmas!
Bro I was watching your vid, which is awesome btw and just was thinking "is that an Instrumental by John Michael Howell?" and after that "reckless love" Hahaha I just love it. Thanks for your great work! God Bless
Ahh props for picking up on it before the lyrics came it:) That is a top worship song of mine lol! I appreciate you man, thanks for checking out the vid!
Thanku so much... Going to buy my first camera for lumix... Main reason is price but it's providing many features in this price segment. Love your review. Love from India
Good Video! May I recommend your B cam be a bit more tight or more of an angle; the A cam and B cam are similar enough that it doesn't really make too much difference right now. EDIT: Didn't realize you were doing that for the comparison... my bad...
Hey I appreciate the feedback (and the update!) Lol :) While I was editing I couldn't help but feel odd cutting between the two nearly identical angles. I, personally, wanted to see how the two stacked up in a true side-by-side comparison so I hoped that might help someone else as well! :) Thanks again, pumped to have you here!
I keep wondering. yes the S5IIX looks great, but I keep on hearing the Lens-options are way worse and expensive compared to Sony. What do you think for someone who wants to get his first video-first camera and to stick within only that ecosystem? A7IV or S5IIX?
Great question! Fortunately, you can't go wrong with either :) You already know my i went with the Sony system, that is what made the most sense for me. You'll find a much more robust ecosystem that supports the Sony when compared to the Lumix. That carried a lot of weight for me in my decision!
IBIS was mentioned but what about one the most important things, Color Science? I don't own either, but after looking at hundreds of our hours of footage from both and hearing comments, I don't think I would want to color correct jaundiced skin tones every time. Even videoing grass, it looks yellowy green. I am still probably getting the S5 ii, even after this video. To me the one big thing Sony has going, is the large choice of lenses.
Fair enough! Thanks for sharing your perspective! The ecosystem surrounding Sony cameras is a pretty tough to beat, but there are ways around it if need be! Best of luck out there, and happy shooting!
Kudos for a reviewer that actually makes a recommendation and doesn't sit on the fence. I have both. The aftermarket and lens ecosystem are definite strengths of the Sony system over competitors even if it does get worryingly hot
@photosblossomsau1624 at the moment I only have the 50mm f1.8 because I'm still searching for something I want but the choice is very limited. That's kind of the problem
There is nothing overwhelming, just OVERHEATING. The A7Iv has temper tantrum spells OVERHEATING & shut-downs. So what good is 33 mpx if the cam goes on a temper tantrum in the middle of my Hollywood Blockbuster Shoot? The other cam, the Lumix S5iix has much better manners. Cecil B. DeMille just let us know that he's using the second can his SECOND Blockbuster, The Ten Commandments, Version II shot in anamorphic with the Lumix S5iiX. Period. Nothing more to say! 😎😎
I appreciate the insight! I can only speak to my own experience, and I haven’t had an overheating problem with either of my A7iv’s. (Even on long hot days) so I feel confident in my equipment but I realize not everyone has been so fortunate! I have been absolutely loving focus breathing compensation though! I didn’t realize how much it bothered me until now. The Sony Focus Depth map has really been a great tool
God Bless you man of God. And I subscribed. I'm leaning toward the s5iix for me B camera also as Hybrid camera for photography.. I have the BMPCC 6K PRO as my A camera.
Thank you so much, I appreciate you! The good news is, both are incredible cameras to work with. I have no doubt you'll be able to make some awesome things with it! Thanks for watching!
My biggest draw back is the lowlight capabilities of the s5 ii (x). Im a documentary filmmaker and want to be able to shoot in any situation and tell a story (also my main freelance work is where I dont have control over the light) , the a7s III is a little above my budget, in NL (Where im from) they are 4200 euros which is 4500 US dollars. That is not worth the low light performance for me, so I gravitated towards the A7 IV or the the s5 II (X). What is your opinion about the low light performace of the s5 ii (X), do you think it holds up?
@@OffTheHorizon I'd expect both bodies to perform very similarly in low light, all things being equal. When it comes to the more budget friendly, low light option the s5iix probably wins because of the available lenses! Their lineup of prime lenses are quite afford and would be helpful in low light given their wider aperture. The sony equivalent will be a bit more expensive. Great question! Thanks for checking out the vid!
The S primes, with the 67mm front, actually don't have focus breathing - pretty wild at that price. The big draw of the S5ii for me is the anamorphic support + open gate - on even the FX3 I can't get a desqueezed image of my 1.5x anamorphic, that means Id need a monitor 100% of the time. Then on top of this, Panasonic implemented the first ever anamorphic IBIS ... wild, I can just slap my Atlas Mercury on the S5ii and handhold shoot - no gimbal, no monitor, I can even where it around my neck during travel. Panasonic needs an FX3/30 style body, and Sony needs open gate, anamorphic support + cinema features ... at least in their FX line
The S prime's lack of optical breathing really is quite an accomplishment for any lens, let alone for one at that price point! I bet the Mercury on an s5ii is an AWESOME combination. Thanks for commenting and checking out the video! :)
The L-Mount lens system is definitely an interesting one! While not as robust as say the 'e' mount, the abililty to use Leica glass natively is awesome! The Lumix lenses are optically really nice as well, at a much more budget friendly price.
Troy, great work, as usual. I read through the comments and you’ve meanioned a few times that 24p hasn’t caused any overheating. That’s my only concern with getting an a7iv as a stills camera/b cam for video. My a cam is fx3. After almost a year, are you still able to record without any overheating issues? Thanks man
Much appreciated! Great question, one year later I'm still rocking the A7iv! I too now have an Fx3 as my A-cam and have been very pleased to use the A7iv as a B-cam/stills cam. No overheating concerns from my end!
Your video is great, but at this point is not "definitive answer" as the Lumix 3.0/2.0 (S5 II/IIX) firmware upgrades change the camera's performance "drastically" (not an exaggeration) for free. Might be time to update?
Thanks for checking out the video! I did hear that the Lumix has had a s oftware update since this video went live that adds some performance upgrades. Love to see that for all of the Lumix users! :)
I own a Sony a 6700 right now and I am thinking to sell it to buy a Lumix s5 ii. I only have one lens of Sigma so I doesn't matter alot to me. I want to record cinematic and also use to click few good pictures. So is it a good idea to sell my apsc a 6700 for a full frame S5 ii ? Thanks
I can confidently say that you can't go wrong with either system! They both will give you the cinematic footage you're after and still hold their own for photography. My personal choice was to go with the Sony system, but the S5ii has plenty of fight in it and will serve you well! Thanks for checking out the video, and happy shooting! :)
Did you just make a whole video without talking about the whole reason to buy the S52x?? THE OPENGATE :D ?? The opengate is the reason why you would put up with all the quirks and the "new autofocus". Opengate makes your videos easy to use for productions for SoMe without turning the camera around and film the same thing two times.
Lol! I realized after the fact I failed to mention the Open Gate recording as one of the draws! That's obviously noteworthy, so thanks for mentioning it! I was more interested in Open Gate for the anamorphic benefits, but SoMe productions are for sure a viable use so long as the bit depth and af limitations are acceptable trade-offs. Thanks for checking out the vid!
@@TroyMairs always checking out your awesome videoes 🤩😎 its always a good Vibe in your videos 🤟 please Keep making them. I have been to so many shoots where the client has afsked afterwards if it could be made into reels.. and it is just a pain if you didnt take that i to account.. especially when filming on the c70 (the R5c has more res) and your framing is gonna be super wide if you film for both on a 16:9 ratio. I have startet to tell clients that we need to film the whole thing two times, where one is with the c70 on the side , or with two cameras. The Panasonic with the opengate is just awesome for those situations.
I really like your film/editing style for some reason. And thanks for the video. This might be the naive choice for me, but I think I'll go with the s5iiX. I seem to like their offering. Though it's VERY close with Sony. This will be my first mirrorless camera and a massive upgrade over my Nikon D5200.
Thank you very much! I'm pumped for you man, you certainly can't go wrong with the s5iix :) Its a great camera, that's why the decision was soo hard for me to make!
@@TroyMairs absolutely agree with you there. Before I heard about this camera the Sony A7iv was gonna be my go too. But then this came around. Couldn't resist. Especially being a few bucks cheaper without much compromise
Happy to help! I’ve really enjoyed the ecosystem Sony provides in comparison to other brands. The cages, hot shoe mics, lens choices, they all play a part in choosing the right body!
I find that extra megapixels show their hand when cropping an image 100% and higher, or trying to print larger photos like billboards or posters. When it comes to macro images, the right lens is going to make the biggest impact, over the megapixels. Both of the sensors are going to provide excellent resolution for that. Macro photography is often done a narrow apertures, requiring lots of light. So an argument could be made that a “lower” megapixel camera might be better as they tend to have less noise in low light environments. But we’d be splitting hairs at that point!:)
Both can be great tools to own and use. I have enjoyed the Sony ecosystem and the image quality is better than expected. Even in this video, I could tell the Sony right away as the skin tones looked better. I would have never said that in the past but Sony upped their game. Don't look back as every brand is a viable option these days. Pick a system and learn it inside and out. The A7sIII/A7iv + Phantom Alexa Natural LUT has been working well for me. On the still side, the A7IV + Cobalt color profiles gets me right at and better than my old Canon 5DMKIII. Best of luck!
Oh great point! “Pick a system an LEARN it inside and out” - that will have a bigger impact on image quality than either of these camera bodies! The Phantom LUTs are great! I'm not familiar with the Cobalt presets, I'm going to go check them out!
I had the FX3, sold it for more than I bought it in the pandemic and bought the A7IV and actually love it more than I did the FX3 for several reasons. But the only downside is over heating on hot days. Totally stinks when it happens, Since I shoot 60P 4K almost 90% of the time, it is impossible to shoot very long in hot weather. Semi hot weather that is, I could not imagine shooting in the summer in Florida for more than a few minutes at a time..
I had that same experience with loving the A7IV more than I anticipated. The overheating is for sure a calculated risk unfortunately, but I've had pretty good luck so far! We don't get quite as hot up here by Chicago:)
how is canon R5C compared to both of these i am confused. i have been shooting with canon 5Dmarkiii and canon60D invested in a lot of lens planning to sell my 60D and shifting one of these i shoot product portrait in my studio and interior photo and because of video i am planning to shift mirrorless
In your situation, there may be some benefit to choosing the R5C or maybe even the R5 if you have a lot of ef lenses that you would like to continue using. Personally, I have avoided the R5C entirely given its terrible battery life. I did not want to have to rig an external battery to my camera so I passed on that camera. Hope this helps!
what's about the workflow in such a market that's sony dominant? I mean, the modern filmmaking scene have so many freelancers using sony cameras, that makes me think how to for exemple, do any kind of freelance project owning a Panasonic?
That's an interesting perspective! It does seem that a good percentage of project are shot on Sony cameras, so there is going to be some benefit in being able coexist in that ecosystem of fellow creatives! It means things like color science, lens mounts, and ergonomics are going to mesh better in certain scenarios when working with other creatives! I haven't come across many Panasonic sets meyself, but they are certainly out there and making great things! :) Thanks for checking out the vid!
Fortunately, you cant go wrong with either. They are both GREAT video tools! If I was going solely video, I would probably go with the FX3 over the A7siii. If that isn't an option and it has to be between these two, the S5iix probably wins if we just focus on video. The biggest drawback would be a less developed ecosystem to support your s5iix.
Nice video, and ... I was like you in the same situation. But.... I chose S5II. Maybe you didn't use A7IV on interviews or editorials. It sucks above 30 degrees temperature. Anyway ... good luck with it!
Thanks for checking it out and sharing your experience! It’s always interesting how we can all have the same cameras in our hands and come to opposite decision 😂 In my latest video I used an A7iv as a B cam for an all day shoot without overheating 👍 Better yet, we had to turn the A/C off to get clean audio. Much to my surprise even, no over heating issues!
@@TroyMairs I've seen that some people seem to get lucky with their A7IV and don't come across that overheating issue. I use one for work and unfortunately it overheats pretty regularly even during interviews in air conditioned rooms :( With that, I just bought the S5IIX and am stoked to use it :D Thx for the comparison!
I hate to resurrect this comment section, but I have a question. I current shoot on the Canon EOS R, but the recording limit, 4k crop, hit-or-miss AF, plus no 3rd party lenses makes me tempted to move to a new platform. At the moment i am possibly going to trade in my gear to mpb for a r6 mak II. Would a Lumix S5 IIx be a better camera for product/edc photo and video for RUclips and IG?
Great question! I truly think the best thing you can do is rent both of the cameras for a few days and I think the answer will become clear to you right away! From a "specs" perspective the two cameras are nearly identical and more than capable machines! One is probably not "better" than the other for the task, but when you use them I think one camera will immediately spark more inspiration within yourself as a creator. That's what I found with the A7Iv in this video!
Sony cameras are seen as the standard in the market, similar to Apple, thanks to their effective marketing on platforms like RUclips. However, they may not necessarily be significantly better than their competitors. Sony's focus on creating a perceived strong ecosystem palys a huge part in that. While there is often talk about the variety of lenses available, most filmmakers typically use prime lenses or standard zooms. It's uncommon to find a Sony shooter using a lens that cannot be found in other camera mounts. Sony offers excellent cameras, but that might not be the sole reason why many people prefer them. I believe it's because people feel like part of an exclusive club when they proudly mention using Sony (or Canon). Ultimately, it's important to remember that all of these cameras are great options in today's market.
I think the Sony/Apply comparison is a great one! I used Android for the longest time and really enjoyed the “Apple Ecosystem” when I got in it! I think the same mentality applies here👍
Thanks for checking out the vid! For what it’s worth, the only edit applied to either clip was a rec709 color space transform. So any differences your seeing would be a difference in the color science of each camera.
I love my Panasonic S5. Still have not upgraded but if I had to chose between the two, and they were the same price, I would choose the Sony. But I do love the Panasonic a lot.
The price is a real kicker! The Panasonic is an INCREDIBLE value offering. It really does punch above its weight class! The Sony really does benefit from the fleshed out ecosystem though. That is something I have really been enjoying.
I think the A7s3 has done a good job of earning that title on its merits. It does a lot of things really well, and is an excellent workhouse of a camera. Any of the cameras mentioned in this video can churn out some excellent images :)
Such a good review. I am primarily a Nikon user now planning to choose A7IV .... But after watching this video it puts me into a confusing state bw A7IV vs S5II :D
The good news is, you can't go wrong with either! They are both excellent cameras! :) I have really found myself appreciating the Sony ecosytem that surrounds this camera, and I've been happy with my choice. Best of luck with yours!
RUclipsrs push the S5Ii and S5iix all the time. The always use the same arguments. Honestly, Sony has launched 5 + new excellent cameras since the A7IV to choose from. All budgets, sizes, for many uses. Plus second hand market, plus pro cinema market. What are these youtubers talking about. They live in their own little island. S5Ii fantastic camera, but nothing to do ti why people buy Sony in my opi
There really isn’t anything wrong with the S5II camera itself! It’s when we compare the ecosystems surrounding that camera I think the difference really begins to stand out. Thanks for checking out the video!
@@TroyMairs Yes! I try to push new people to get used older cameras until they get their own style. I think the camera does not make that much difference unless you absolutely don't care about cinematography and just want to push a button.
at the end of the day, when some one make a movie, they ask "who make it ?" first ... and maybe then "what gear that he use ?" so gear up with what you got now, make some masterpiece ...
Love this! We could all use the exact same gear, location, time of day, and actors and STILL all end up with different images/movies.That's the beauty of our individuality as creators :)
Had bought the s5iix recently to replace my a7siii.. kinda odd, I know. There are lots of reasons to keep one over the other but tomorrow I’m returning the s5iix. I’m here watching this because I’m not 100% sure I’m making the right decision 😵💫🥴
I have the a7iv. Had the overheating warning kick in a couple of times and I do a lot of hybrid shooting so the IBIS has been annoying. Besides. Going with Sony because they're the default continues the status quo. I really like the 4k 60fps but the apsc crop is annoying which both cameras have. So I'm waiting to see what the S1 successor will have. Also Opengate is the biggest bonus. Shooting content for both YT and IG gets annoying with only 16:9 option. Same with framing.
Open Gate and the Passive Cooling were tragic casualties of my decision! Lol They will be missed but I'm still very happy with the decision. Thanks for checking out the vid and contributing your take!
For sure! 6k open gate was one of those modes where pdaf was disabled if I remember correctly! (This may have been fixed in a firmware update though, I’m not 100% sure on that!) I’ve been thrilled my my decision! Thanks for checking out the vid!
❤is w sony but since my canon t2i was retired ive been shootin Lumix . Note im sure i would be making money w sony sayin notca dime w Lumix . So went w my head and got the X.🎉Thank You
@@TroyMairs I was going to buy R5c but I changed my mind tho I had been royal to canon for ages , but the price and what you get from this camera is amazing stabilisation, dynamic range and 6K open gate . I’m thinking they will update it and able to record 4k120 crop or May be 4k60 uncroped.
I sold my a7IV for the S5II back in February, and couldn’t be happier!!!
Things that are better in real world use, shooting run&gun for 6 months with each:
LCD screen, IBIS, controls and customization, shutter angle, open gate, waveforms, Framemarkers, switching from photo and video in a pinch, exposing and grading Log footage, overheating.
AF in the S5II works fantastic in the 1-area using eye detect.
I'm right there with you in the shutter angle and open gate! It was painful to have to turn those down! Lol I do find it interesting that you prefer the S5ii's switch from photo/video modes to be better, I quite like Sony's implementation of it. Goes to show how subjective it can be. Thanks for checking out the video and sharing your thoughts! Hopefully this can help someone make their decision!
@@TroyMairs the problem with the way the a7IV does the photo/video switching, is that in a7IV I had setup the custom modes (C1, C2…) as my different framerates video, since it doesn’t have Shutter Angle. So whenever I switched from video to photo I was on a C profile, meaning it was usually not the mode I needed for photo (just the default manual).
With the S5II, because of shutter angle I don’t even need to use the C modes for video, so with one flick of the dial I switch back and forth from manual video and photo, and it remember the settings I was in.
@@9adriano21 That makes sense, sounds like it works well!
Just did the same thing! Well i still have to sell the a7iv but im loving the s5ii. The stabilization blows the a7iv out of the water. Makes me actually enjoy shooting handheld video
im thinking of switch to Lumix as well its at tough decision lol
I like sony, but in this duel Lumix wins for me. For video - mega stabilizer, Open Gate, anamorph support, in cooperation with leica: very high-quality color rendering. Cooling, cheaper SD cards, special price, all original lumix lenses are parafocal, do not breathe, have a smooth aperture, L-mount: Lumix, Leica, Sigma, DJI, canon EF also works with adapter. Robust body resistant to dust and splash proof. Good LCD and peaking assistant, many film functions. CONS: it doesn't have as perfect autofocus as Sony, it doesn't have a live HDMI 50i output
I saw some comments that said the HDMI out live has no lag if you turn off audio out through HDMI. But you hit the nail on the head with my this. This will be my first mirrorless camera 📸
Sounds like you know where you're priorities are! Fortunately for all of us, there really isn't a "wrong" decision to make here! Either way you go, you'll have a fantastic hybrid camera at your finger tips! :)
I had to come back to this thread. After years of Sony diehard shooting, I hate to say it…
Hard pill to swallow, after a couple Luxury Wedding Shoots, Image, Codecs, Cinema type settings, shutter angle, metering features, open gate, B-RAW… no overheating… I’m definitely in different shoes now.
Seven months later, do you still hold the same opinion on the lumix?
@@farshaxan Yes, and the opinion has not changed. Since I am satisfied, I invested even more: I bought the entire Lumix Prime lens f1.8 series. They are designed for filmmakers. SPro 16-35 + Spro 24-70 + 24-70 for Photo/video/TV and Sirui 50mm anamorhp for video/little bit photo. The colors are amazing, the stabilizer has no competition. The focus is sufficient. What could panasonic improve: fullframe 4K 50p, lower latency via HDMI, Fullframe FullHD 50p phase auto focus. Less rolling shutter effect at 4K and 6K - probably only a new model will solve this. After looking at the results 3 of my friends are considering buying a Lumix S5II (S5IIx). Excellent price/performance ratio. It is not only a video camera but also a great photo. I use it for: low budget commercial videos (social networks and TV), TV programs, live events and hobby photos. Handheld, autofocus, opengate 6K, internal recording - no problem :)
Hey fellow filmmakers! 🎥 Had to drop my two cents on the Sony A7 IV vs. Panasonic S5 II debate, especially after owning both powerhouses for a solid six months.
Now, don't get me wrong, the A7 IV is a photo marvel. The dial that keeps settings intact during mode switches is pure genius. But let's dive into the video realm, shall we? 🎬
The Panasonic S5 II has completely won me over, especially after half a year of hands-on experience. First off, that menu interface is a dream - user-friendly and a breeze to navigate. And can we talk about the 6K open gate and the magnificent IBIS? It's like having a cinematic wizard right in your hands for every shot. The A7 IV might get a bit heated after a 45-minute 4K 60fps session in 30°C weather, but the S5 II stays cool with its fan - a total game-changer.
And let's not forget the monitoring tools on the S5 II - waveforms, LUT support, the whole shebang. Perfect for those who want to finesse their shots to perfection. Plus, the seamless compatibility with the Ronin Gimbal? It's a match made in videography heaven.
Sure, the A7 IV can output stunning shots, but the S5 II takes it up a notch with RAW capabilities - a feature that, unfortunately, the A7 IV missed out on. And firmware updates? Panasonic is on top of their game, constantly fine-tuning and enhancing the S5 II experience. Sony, on the other hand, not so much in the update department.
Now, let's talk value for money. After half a year with both, the S5 II is a video powerhouse without burning a hole in your pocket. Sony might have the upper hand in the photo game and a broader lens selection, but if you're all about that cinematic life, the Panasonic S5 II is the clear winner in my book.
So, to my fellow creators out there, especially those who've had both in their arsenal - give the Panasonic S5 II a serious look. It might just be the video sidekick you didn't know you needed. 🌟 #TeamS5II #FilmmakerLife
Hey! Really great thoughts! I appreciate you taking the time to articulate these and for contributing to the conversation in a really helpful manner :) Obviously we came to different conclusion on which camera was the right one for us, but the good news is that they are both incredible tools to work with and you can't go too wrong either way!
Hopefully someone is able to make a more informed decision based on the video and comments likes these, thanks again. Pumped to have you here :)
About to drop some money on a S5IIx. What lenses work well in terms of autofocus with this camera? The Panasonic 24mm F1.8?
I sold my a7iv for the 6k open gate video, shutter angle, full hdmi port, and way better in body stabilization. I hate using gimbals because of time constraints during shooting. Panasonic is the King of IBIS. Also, real time LUTs played a big part to the reason I chose the S5ii. Video features for the money, nothing touches or even comes close to the s5ii/iix.
Sounds like you’re in good shape then! I also hate using gimbals😂 thanks for checking out the vid!
One thing that should be said about the ‘little bit cheaper and plasticky’ comment is that you were likely referring to the lens while comparing a GM £1500 to an S series prime. £550. The S5ii x uses the same materials for its body and LUMIX cameras have traditionally been more robust in terms of durability and weather sealing.
That's a fair point! The lenses themselves aren't necessarily a fair comparison given the price differences, they are the most comparable lens option in my opinion though. So I think it is at least a noteworthy thing for a potential buyer to consider. As far as the body itself goes, you're probably right in that the two are much closer in build quality. I'd still give the nod to Sony but it may be negligible.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! :)
Actually the Lumix bodies are way better than Sony's. Most Sony Cameras don't have a full magnesium alloy body because Sony wants them to be lighter.
Yeah that comment threw me off. If anything, the sony body feels cheap and plasticky, while the Panasonic looks like a retro beauty, built like a tank. I have zero complaints with my S5ii
I am sure you will enjoy the A7 IV.
I've had the A7 IV for more than a year and I quite like it but having just bought the S5 IIx and tested for a couple of weeks... I must be honest, I prefer it over the Sony. Overheat is a big issue for me but the compatibility with EF lenses, better stabilization, recording to SSD, open gate and menus that make sense are the main reasons.
But yes, both are amazing cameras and we are lucky to be spoiled for choice 😅
Thanks for hanging out Ramon! You make some great points! The S5iix will undoubtedly be a fun camera to work with and I'm sure it will serve you well! Happy shooting :)
How is it like using two different systems and lenses. Can you match them in colour if you do end up using both
@@photosblossomsau1624 I guess it can be done but I am not able to match them perfectly even using cinematch... If you plan to do it for a paid project I would not recommend to mix camera brands. It's simply not worth the time spent in post. And it's not just the color, the Lumix is noticeably sharper and more contrasty, for example.
Since it's just a hobby for me I don't mind to spend time color grading but if I had a deadline It would stress me to death.
So interesting, I’ve always found Panasonic to have better UI and layout compared to Sony cameras. I have the GH5 and the Sonys always felt cold and electronic by comparison :)
Isn't that interesting?? Lol we can all pick up the same cameras and feel drawn to one over the other! I expected to feel the same way about the Sonys so I even surprised myself with this one :)
Thanks for checking out the vid!
You have presented compelling reasons to purchase the S5ii, not so much for the a7iv. No shutter angle, focus breathing etc. I have experienced overheating on the a7iv quite a few times. I have the Sony a7siii, and I have never had a problem with it.
I can’t begin to tell you how happy I am with the release of the upgraded S5ii. I will definitely be switching to the S5iix.
That's great! There ARE compelling reasons to buy the S5II, so I'm glad this video helped you solidify your decision! I have loved my decision and I'm sure you will to!
@@TroyMairs I agree.
The real biggest win for the S5iix is the ability to record video and stills directly to SSD, record pro-res, internally/braw over usb c AND HDMI is insane. $129 for a 2tb T7 ssd vs $400 for 2tb of cf express type b storage is a big factor. The fact the S5iix supports EF/L mount/m42/MFT/PL lens systems is, from a video perspective; a definitive win.
I've never felt super comfortable with using external recordings. I'm always worried a cable may get bumped or simply stop working. I might be among the few that feel that way though, because it seems to be a pretty standard practice! That's maybe why that specific feature of the S5iix didn't carry as much weight for me. Glad you're happy with your decision though! Thanks for checking out the video!
LUMIX for IBIS & video features/color.
Sony for variety of bodies and lens.
AF can be improved with firmware.
Sony strategy is to keep on making many more new models on both FF & APSC, while LUMIX improves on firmware update on their limited models.
Thanks for contributing your thoughts!
I switched from a7iv to lumix s5ii.. Auto focus is the only thing I miss from Sony.. I would say I have 90% performance with Lumix AF.. You could say a word about open gate )) Lumix is winner ))
Thanks for sharing your experience! Oddly enough I wasn't finding myself using open gate all that often actually. It may have been that I often forgot it was an option! lol so I probably didn't give that feature a fair shake, thats on me!
Thanks again!
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I got more confuse than before. Which camera going to test? First the talk is about Lumix S5ii vs Sony a7iv, but the title is about S5iix vs Sony a7iv. 🤔😲
Sorry to confuse you! The video is primarily comparing the Sony A7iv to the Lumix S5iix but there are a lot of similarities between the S5iix and the s5ii so some of the information will overlap!
I've never really used SONY's for video.. Maybe once or twice for a few projects, (A7SII) but for a WHILE now I've been on Panasonic / Lumix for video. GH4, GH5, GH6, and then currently the S5II. The most interesting thing is, while I knowww and LOVE the camera for video, I just used it for the first time the other day for PHOTOS and man, I was impressed. I usually shoot Fuji for photos but, the S5II really impressed me the other day. Love what I got, might make prints w/ a few of them. Just felt good to have the full-frame image again. I missed that for a while.
I love this! I'm glad to hear you've made your decision and are happy with the results! It's easy to think the "grass is greener" somewhere else. Where in reality, we can make some awesome stuff with the cameras we have today. Regardless of the brand!
If S5iix can shoot 4K 60p with no crop like A7Siii, it would be the perfect camera for me.
Yea the crop can really be a bummer on any camera. It makes perfect sense why it has to happen, and it shouldn't be an issue, but its always kind of annoyed me :)
@@TroyMairs whats the crop ratio 4k@60 on s5iix ?
The priorities matter. And the "overheating" may mean either the "single-film" time, or "you literally can't use camera until it cools down".
I've got myself in a trouble, because had mistaken first for second in EOS R6. R6 overheated and needed a cooldown 6 times at one project. And now - no expensive FF camera without cooling will be my choice.
But I am very interested in S9 tbh. Want to see the progress of sensor technology and passive camera body cooling overall.
All said - Your priorities matter. Godspeed!
Thanks for sharing your experience and for checking out the vid! :) Happy Shooting!
Got two A7iv . Love them both, Sony lenses, the app and the auto focus was the clear winner
Same, I'm really enjoying having two identical cameras. Same settings, same rigs, same everything. I've never done that in the past and its been fantastic.
Wow, Troy, that was such a great review of both cameras. And I loved your style of having a final verdict and making a definitive answer. I loved your straight to the point no bs style.
Bravo, great job! Keep it up!
Thank you so much! :) I can't tell you how much I appreciate the support and encouragement!
I’m surprised you didn’t mention open gate on the S5IIx
That should have been mentioned a bit more you're right! Definitely a Pro for the S5iix system :)
This is a very useful review. Straight forward and helpful.
Watching this as I wait for my Lumix to arrive In the mail lol.
Haha well hopefully you didn't watch until the end where I said “buy the a7iv” 😂
The Lumix is going to serve you really well! You can feel confident in that choice!
They're both great cameras but it's all going to come down to very small preferences in the grand scheme of things. For me I went the opposite direction and went panasonic. Coming from a GH5 I liked the panasonic menu system better, I've been digging a lot of the L mount lineup lenses and a lot of the work that has gone into those, but the most decisive point for me was V-Log color. I work with a lot of different color profiles from a lot of different cameras but V-Log I find is just more neutral and easier to dial into custom looks for me. All that said I had to buy new cameras for my department at work and wound up going Sony for those. Why? Because we needed a combination of cinema cameras and hybrid cameras to work along side one another seamlessly and the FX6/FX9 are just much better offerings in the cinema camera space than what panasonic has right now. Maybe if the EVA - 02 comes out someday it'll change that dynamic but right now there's a space for both systems, tho that space is closing rapidly.
You hit the nail on the head there! The differences are nearly negligible in the grand scheme of things, and we're very fortunate as creators in that we really can't go wrong either way :) It is interesting you opted for the Sony for work and Panasonic for personal!
@@TroyMairs I think the key is scalability, or how I'm able to achieve scalability in both environments. For work each camera will be dedicated to a specific kit and which will have a specific purpose, you need a cinema camera you grab an fx6 and go to town, if you need a mirrorless you grab an a7 and do what you gotta do. For my personal camera I need something that can be adapted to wear a lot of hats and that's where the S5 shines. I can run and gun with the S5 as an everyday carry mirrorless just like the A7 but I can also build it up into a cinema camera with some addtional rigging, monitor, hard drive recorder etc, and I have the ability to really dial in the record format settings to fit other people's work flows rather than the set work flow we use in house at work.
S5 lets me adapt to other people's production worlds, where as the sony gives me more tools for building a solid world for a team of a lot of people.
@@who2999 Love it! Perfect use case for both systems👍
I thoroughly enjoyed your review of these two cameras. While the S5II(x) may appear to be a better option based on specifications and features, I currently find myself more drawn to the A7IV for its superior autofocus, impressive lens selection, and comprehensive ecosystem.
If someone reads this, and like me, have delved into a deeper study of these cameras, you'll recognize that both produce exceptional images, as long as you have the appropriate lenses. In my opinion, the S5II(x) leans more towards videography, while the A7IV is more geared towards photography. If you're primarily a photographer seeking exceptional video capabilities while simultaneously expanding your collection of superb GM lenses, the A7IV will prove to be a valuable investment, especially when considering future cinema-line camera purchases.
Remember, emotion rules over technical correctness.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I think you're right on, there is more to the camera decision than just the camera itself. Which is where the ecosystem comes in to play!
I appreciate the comment and insight!
Anamorphic support in-camera is a big deal for me. Awesome to not have to use an external monitor whenever I shoot anamorphic. Both cameras are great though. For sure.
Absolutely! I'm jonesing for some anamorphic lenses (fortunately I'm always using an external monitor). What lenses are you rocking??
@@TroyMairs Sirui 35 and 75, 1.33 APSC. Great lenses for my S5. Love em! I'm shooting a feature length doc in a few months with just those two lenses.
Great Vid - thanks man. I have borrowed both and in the end I bought the Lumix because it was more "budget-friendly" for my use cases. But I can absolutely understand your reasons for Sony. In my opinion pana absolutely wins in terms of price to performance ratio. It's insane how "cheap" the f1.8 primes are for the quality they offer. And personally I like the more "bulky" design of the Body. It just fits better in my hand. On the other hand the are no better lenses than the ne Sony gm primes. I also used the gm 35 f1.4 and I never saw something similar sharp wide open in a extrem small body. Not to mention the Sony af is just magic.
"Price-to-Performance" Ratio, I love that! I might try to find a way to incorporate that metric in to future videos :) I think you're absolutely right in that the S5ii has an incredible price-to-performance ratio both for the body and those lenses. The fact that they have so little optical breathing is just amazing.
Thanks for commenting! Pumped to have you here!
For me, the main point of Sony are the GM lenses, they are great !
The 35mm and 50mm GM are ultra sharp wide open with very good microcontrast, they are just fantastic lenses. The 135mm GM is slightly less sharp wide open (still very good) and ultra sharp stopped down, the 85mm GM has one of the best rendering I ever seen from a 85mm lenses, colors and bokeh are very nice.
Now, from Panasonic, for me there are only 2 fantastic lenses :
The 24-70mm S Pro with extraordinary microcontrast, sense of volume and depth (the Sony 24-70mm GMII is far from this level even if it's as sharp).
The 50mm S Pro, not as sharp wide open as the 50mm GM, it is only f1.4 but with better sense of depth, and nicer colors in my opinion.
The little 50mm and 85mm S are very good lenses, they are very sharp with good rendering, but they are not as good as the S Pro lenses.
About the 70-200mm S Pro f2.8, I tried two samples and they were not as good as the 24-70mm, weight is a problem too, especially compared to the 70-200mm GM II.
I also use Sigma lenses on my Panasonic cameras, I have a love/hate relationship with them, most of them are very sharp with very good microcontrast, but colors and and overall rendering are much less nice than the S Pro and GM lenses to my eyes, I don't speak about Leica lenses because I only owned the SL 50mm f1.4 and they are too expensive for me.
AF is better on the A7IV, even if some reviews say they are equal, I have both camera (S5II and A7IV) since they're out and using both photo and video, I'd say the Panasonic is about 80% of the Sony
IBIS is much better on the S5II, every reviewer saying they are equal must have a serious Sony bias.
Just an annoying thing on both cameras, the temporal noise reduction. The S5/S1/S1H have better detail rendering in low light with most profiles.
Great insights! Thanks for sharing! I do agree the Sony lenses are generally going to be better, but those S Pro lenses are pretty cool! Specifically the physical clutch for switching from manual/auto focus!
Lumix all day until you want to hook up an external monitor and pull focus manually than it sucks. There is so much lag and the only way to improve that lag is to turn the audio recording off and externally record your audio but it’s still has more lag through the hdmi port than Sony.
I would have picked this camera up for sure but with Sony’s better af system and faster hdmi port for manually focusing the Sony is a no brainer even though the Lumix is feature packed and the overall better camera on paper it’s not in use.
The HDMI lag was an interesting "con" as well that not many people have been talking about! I run on external monitors almost exclusively, and the lag is at least worth noting for anybody else that may be trying to make this decision. Thanks for shedding some light on it!
Love the honest review and how you respond back to all the comments. I’ll be watching more of your reviews for sure.
Can you talk about using an external monitor a little more and which one you use and why you use it as I am considering one of these cameras and would love to hear more feedback from someone who uses external monitors.
Thanks again!!!😊
@@jimgunderson6439 Thanks Jim! I love the conversations down in the comments 👍 I don’t have many other “camera buffs” in my inner circle but I love talking cameras so this is a great outlet!
I have been using the Hollyland Mars M1 monitors exclusively for about 8 months or so. The (almost) sole reason is that they have the built in wireless video transmission and I really enjoy being able to view a feed on a larger directors monitor primarily , or sometimes on a second M1 monitor when I’m not the one operating my camera. If I had to rig/power a seperate transmitter I would never do it and the. I’d be missing out on those benefits that come with it.
It’s not a perfect monitor, but the color rendition is great and the brightness is useable. I don’t particularly like the placement of the HDMI port, and I wished the DC-In port had a locking connector, but I can deal with those things :)
Great Video Troy.
I like that Panasonic offers ProRes internally and Menu/ Colors and DR is just great.
What about your C70?
Hey Paule! Thanks for checking out my vid :) (I'm a fan of your channel!)
Panasonic really did nail the colors straight out of camera on this body! If I had to choose based on color science alone, it would definitely be the S5iix.
I switch up cameras more than I should... lol so the C70 is out the door and Sony is getting the call for the next few years! I'll work with these bodies for some time while I build up my E-Mount lens collection, then I'm hoping an Fx6 mk2 makes an appearance :)
@@TroyMairs thanks and likewise 😎
I just got a C70 as a all in one cam since Komodo isn’t always the best option ha ha.
Wish you much success with the Sony the fx cameras especially fx6 is just so versatile true.
@@PaulePorter Ahh great choice! I went from a Komodo to the C70 for the same reason :) I would be willing to bet that an FX camera is also in my future! I might let these A7IVs shoulder the load until the newest version comes out! Thanks again for checking out my video Paule! Pumped to have you here!
I have never heard any one talk about the port placement. I'm a lumix guy and that's certainly a win for Sony. Not sure why lumix of all people never thought of that yet... Its been a huge pain for me on my G9
Right?? Thanks for commenting! When I had these camera side-by-side on a tripod I ran into that issue almost immediately. What's funny is that if you didn't have them next to each other you probably wouldn't notice the difference! Thanks for checking out the vid!
Great review, although I love how the Lumix looks on this video, it looks a bit sharper and more defined with that side shot… I don’t know if it’s the shadows…?
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Im glad you were able to make the call for yourself! I hoped in the side by side you'd be able to see if you were pulled towards one image over the other. There isn't an objectively "right" answer here, just the one you prefer :)
Thank you for the input. A7iv here I come. "Market support" is important when you live in Brazil. By the way, what font you used in the titles/captions during the video?
Oh I hadn't even consider the global market support, thanks for sharing that insight! I've been using "Inter" as my go to font for the channel :)
Us panasonic users are better fillmmakers than most because we dont need auto focus. Now that we have a good one, we just see it as a little bonus that we probably wont even use that much. 😃
Lol😂 A solid argument! Haha
I currently have several Sony cameras A7siii, a7Riv and the A7iv and have owned many Sony cameras previously because I invested in Sony glass and have always been a Sony fanboy but I also have the s5iix and a bunch of black magic cameras and love the Panasonic because I get braw with autofocus and image stabilization. The s5iix is an amazing tool all of these cameras can get the job done except the A7iv. It overheats like crazy at the worst times. Do not buy and do not listen to any reviews of people telling you to buy if you do video. It overheats in 3 minutes down here in Florida. It’s the only Sony I’ve ever had a problem with. Do not use on any paid shoots. It will let you down if you use 4k 10 bit. 4k 10 bit is unusable might as well buy a $2500 brick with the words 4k 10 bit etched into the stone. My DJI pocket 3 does 4k 10 bit with no problems. No brainer get the Panasonic.
Thanks for sharing your opinion! Hopefully people can check out your videos sharing your personal experience with the cameras! :) It seems that mileage tends to vary on the A7IV, i haven't had an issue yet with mine! Paid shoot or not.
Thanks for checking out the video!
I watched until the end but have to mention, you WILL get over heating if you shoot 60p 4K with the A7IV in a semi hot location. I live in South America and it is Hot and dry here in the summer, Nothing like Florida at all. More like California and I get over heating a lot. And yes I have all the settings to high, leave my LCD out etc etc.. But again I am shooting 90% in 60P 4K. Usually turning Off and On the camera fixes it temporarily but is is frustrating when on set with clients.
I hear that! There is definitely a piece of me that worries about that, but my camera in in 24p 90% of the time, and only in 60p for a few shots here and there. So I felt it was a calculated risk worth taking for myself. But THANK YOU for sharing your experience with it, that may very well help someone else!
As per the overheating … I have been using the A7 IV intensively from it’s release and it never overheated or came even close to it. I shot many all day events, when the recording ran 4 hours continuously and no problems at all. I love this camera but I have few complains: 4K/50p only in crop mode (the same applies to the S5IIX), the display quality could be better and the magnification of the EVF is weird, as it is hard to see the whole image and so it is harder to see the framing for me (I didn’t have this problem with the A7III or other cameras). Otherwise it is an excellent camera and the oversampled 4K image is fantastic and hard to beat. And the low light performance is also excellent with the second native ISO 3200, which is very clean.
I've had a really similar experience, thanks for sharing your thoughts as well! At the end of the stick, I've really enjoyed the camera system!
Thanks for checking out the video!
I don't think you can go wrong with either cameras! S5II for me, mostly because I don't want to learn a new camera!
You're right on! I've got no doubts in either cameras ability to get the job done :) Thanks for checking out the vid!
Sony gave you a mega discount on the cam and lenses? The SOny lenses are a bit better but twice the price.
I wish! But unfortunately no discount for me :) lol
Sold my A7IV after six months due to ergonomics and handling. Always felt like I was fighting the camera to get the shot I wanted. Still not certain about LUMIX FF (waiting for more resolution on an updated model), but I know the systems and layout from the MFT G9 (and earlier) and its ergonomics and UI is leaps and bounds more tuned to my liking over Sony.
Thanks for sharing your experience! Its always interesting they way we can each connect/bond with a certain camera or brand and its always a different experience for everyone!
I've been a Nikon photographer since high school and for the last 15 years i've been renting Canon 5D's and then Sony mirrorless for all my video work. Now I own a Z8 and I can confidently say I have no reason to touch an A7S3 ever again. Never having to deal with Prores ever again is lovely. the Panasonic S5, Sony A7S3, and Nikon Z9/8 have 0.2 spread dynamic range between them all. Cant speak for Panasonic, but the files of the Nikon are way easier to extract the maximum out out, and their video menu features are more fleshed out than Sony. You cant really compare because the Nikon is $1000 more and is one of the best photographic cameras ever made, but consumers will be doing themselves a disservice by not paying attention to Nikons next iteration of their less expensive bodies.
Thanks for the notice! Nikon really does seem to get a bad rap, and it may very well be unwarranted. I shot with some of the first iterations if the Z6/Z7 and didn't have a bad experience back then. I'm sure it has only improved!
@@TroyMairs I did lots of decent work with my Z6 and Ninja V. It performed better than the A73 at the time. I never did update to Prores Raw but getting 12-bit prores raw on a 2018 Nikon was something nobody really cared to believe in.
Troy this is a really dumb question, so I hope it's okay to ask this here. At 2:31 and other points, your 'apple-styled' text pops up as white on a white background, but shows up so well and looks really professional. When I do this it looks plain, basic and blends into the background. Is this a particular style of dropshadow FX you're using? Sorry if this is obvious or a pain when you're trying to talk about camera comparisons. It just really stuck out to me 😅
Lol, I appreciate that you appreciate the graphics :) Thanks Dave! Not a dumb question at all! I don't know that there is a specific type of drop shadow that would work better than another, but I can tell you how I did my graphics! I use MotionVFX for everything! RUclips, commercial work, you name it! The pack I use on my YT channel is "mKeynote" - I drag and drop the animated text graphics into my Resolve timeline and what you see in my video is what you get! (font, motion, drop shadow, everything!) I'll link it below for you to check out for yourself!
mvfx.co/TroyMairs
@@TroyMairs This was such a helpful reply! Thanks so much for taking the time to explain and link resources. Just had a look and installing now to check it out. Will keep an eye out for your future videos too! Thanks again
@@daveboyesguitar Happy to Help!
I just noticed the song in the background....currently debating whether or not to spend a little extra and get the A7IV. I've never owned a Sony camera but I've had a little experience with Panasonic. I'm photography focused right now but I do plan on doing video from time to time so I've been back and forth over the last few days trying to make a decision....I'm still leaning towards the S5iiX because I can grow into all the video stuff it offers, but for photo especially I need fast and perfect autofocus in even challenging lighting conditions and good high iso performance
Glad you picked up on the song! :) Fortunately you can't go wrong with either! When it comes to growing with a camera, I liked the Sony route because of all the other cameras/lenses/accessories that you could upgrade to or add to your kit as you grow!
Thanks for checking out the vid!
What about photos
Great point! I shoot video first and foremost, so that is where my experience and knowledge ar at. I didn't do a lot of photo work with these cameras, but I know that photographers often appreciate a higher pixel count when it comes the their raw images, which is where the Sony would have an edge.
Thanks for checking out the video, great question!
Most camera systems have matched eachother in terms of specs and image quality, which means there are two factors that really differentiate systems, in my opinion- Features/Tools and glass. I would say that Lumix has been killing it when offering professional tools and features. Waveforms, shutter angle, anamorphic desqueeze, etc really make the camera easier to use and better in professional environments. Sony's E-mount offers an insane amount of options for glass and AF for solo/run and gun. It depends on what you are creating and it's just a matter of picking the right tool for the job.
I would go for the Lumix and day. The fact that it has open gate is the biggest factor. Open gate is a must, once you've used it and it makes the camera so much more flexible. My issue with Sony is that it takes so long for them to update their cameras and add features. I'm not saying Sony makes bad cameras, but I feel like they lack key features in the video department and not having open gate really gimps the camera if you are shooting anamorphic.
Form factor, perception of build quality are things that matter so you need to apologies for taking that into consideration.
Thanks for checking out the video, and I appreciate the support :) Form factor and ease of use are becoming more and more important now that the image quality between cameras become so comparable.
Honestly a VERY easy choice for me between these two. S5IIx any day over the A7IV, only perhaps the A7SIII or more realistically the FX3 gives the S5IIx a run for its money for film work.
I was entirely convinced the S5IIx was going to be the answer for me too! I was bummed to not enjoy it in person as much as I had hoped. Fortunately, we can’t go wrong with either! :) thanks for checking out the vid!👍
@@TroyMairs in my book if you want to shoot amazing photos too, get an R5C. Otherwise this debate doesn’t hinge around photo capabilities comparing the A7IV and S5IIx with 33Mpx not really giving anything but a stat advantage.
That’s fair though because at the end of the day usability is most important.
Also I would argue that the A7IV being the standard is a RUclips illusion, I’ve not seen that be the case at all in the working professional hybrid market.
@@TroyMairsalso happily, you’ve done great work in on this video and describing your thought process.
This is a really good video but the title is slightly misleading. I was looking for a definite answer on why one was better than the other but going with the A7 iv for was more of your personal preference. Other than that, good video.
Thanks Howard! I appreciate the feedback, and I apologize if I mislead you in any way! I don't know if there truly is a "definite" answer to be had between the two systems, unfortunately. They both outperform each other in different areas, so you'll have to decide which areas are most important to you. I really struggled with the decision, and having used them both, I hoped to just share my thoughts, experience, and reasoning!
Pumped to have you here, and best of luck on the decision!
Right after watching several other videos comparing these 2 video cameras, I made an Educated guess & came to the conclusion that the you were Definitely going to go with the LUMIX over the Sony.
The List of Reasons That I thought that you were going to go with the LUMIX over the Sony are still the same
1. LUMIX S52 & S52X both Beat the Sony at Eliminating Overheating Completely. The Sony offers no Solution to what I’ve been reading are serious overheating issues That The Sony Full Frame A7 series cameras from the A73 Until Now all face. This includes all Sony Super 35 or APSC Sensord cameras except for the 3 Sony Cinema Line Cameras, The FX3, FX30 & The FX6.
2. The lack of Entirely fixing The Green and purple fringing and tint That is a nightmare to ColorGrade out of skin tones.
Although this is something that overtime Sony has gradually worked at reducing in skin tones, it’s just not something that Sony has taken a full intent approach at eliminating with the introduction of any new Camera which to most is ridiculous at this point.
This is something Canon has never had an issue with & it’s something that LUMIX hasn’t had an issue with either.
3. Sony’s Have Begun To develop a widespread online reputation for being uninspiring to shoot on/with overtime.
4. The Panasonic S52 & GH6 Series cameras are commonly referred to as Inspiring Cameras to Want to get up, take out & Shoot Cinema On. Most attribute this to the more accurate color science That results in more natural looking skin tones coming from the LUMIX Series cameras.
5. Therefore, I’m just
Surprised that You didn’t find the Sony to be more Clinical or Technical to Shoot with when compared to the LUMIX S52.
6. The LUMIX is loaded with over double the Professional all intra, SSD Pro Res & Raw Recording Codecs which all open up the option of delivering Pro Cinema Quality footage whether shooting Music Videos, Weddings, Engagements, & Clothing Commercials or product work For Corporate Clients.
7. The LUMIX definitely offers far more performance with Shutter Angle, Open Gate, anamorphic de squeeze etc compared to the Sony which offers none.
8. The LUMIX also offers Waveform, VectorScopes, Unlimited Recording in all Intra Resolutions & Frame Rates Internally with Pro Res at 1080 Internally While offering pro res & Raw out to ssd as a Future proof of their camera.
9. LUMIX does this at almost half the price.
10. So far superior performance for almost half the price.
Thanks for sharing your insight! It looks like you've really done your research, which is great. I'm sure the S5iix will perform really well for you if that's the route you went :) For me, the market support and ecosystem around the Sony system carried quite a bit of weight.
All the sony cameras I have used got overheat recording HD on dual SD slots, on a warm day, this is why we need that fan !
Wow. Every Sony camera?? That's wild! I've yet to experience any overheating on my A7IV/Fx3. Everyone seems to have a different experience with them! Thanks for checking out the video!
It does not overheat when the viewfinder flap is open.
In which of these two cameras is the moiré effect more noticeable when shooting video? The S5IIX does not have an AA filter, but it is not certain whether the A7IV has one, as the information on the Internet varies.
On paper, the A7IV should produce less moire given its AA filter. In the real world, I hadn't noticed much of a difference, but my time with the S5IIx was realtively short in that regard. Great question, thanks for checking out the vid!
Loved the analysis, and you helped me make a choice on my next camera. I think im going Lumix (An upgrade from the canon eos m50 im using now) stayed for the review, subscribed because of the closing song choice.
Thanks Benjamin, I appreciate you checking out the vid! The good news is, you can't go wrong with either camera! They are both fantastic!
Glad you liked the song selection, pumped to have you here:) Have a Merry Christmas!
Bro I was watching your vid, which is awesome btw and just was thinking "is that an Instrumental by John Michael Howell?" and after that "reckless love" Hahaha I just love it. Thanks for your great work! God Bless
Ahh props for picking up on it before the lyrics came it:) That is a top worship song of mine lol! I appreciate you man, thanks for checking out the vid!
@@TroyMairs agreed! Thanks for the good work!
NOOOOOO!!!!
*cries in Panasonic S5IIX*
I hear you😂 lol I was honestly bummed to not be inspired by the X when it came in. I was so convinced that was the one
Thanku so much... Going to buy my first camera for lumix... Main reason is price but it's providing many features in this price segment. Love your review. Love from India
Awesome! You'll love that camera I'm sure! It really does pack a punch at that price point!
Pumped to have you tuning in from India!
Good Video! May I recommend your B cam be a bit more tight or more of an angle; the A cam and B cam are similar enough that it doesn't really make too much difference right now.
EDIT: Didn't realize you were doing that for the comparison... my bad...
Hey I appreciate the feedback (and the update!) Lol :) While I was editing I couldn't help but feel odd cutting between the two nearly identical angles. I, personally, wanted to see how the two stacked up in a true side-by-side comparison so I hoped that might help someone else as well! :)
Thanks again, pumped to have you here!
I keep wondering. yes the S5IIX looks great, but I keep on hearing the Lens-options are way worse and expensive compared to Sony. What do you think for someone who wants to get his first video-first camera and to stick within only that ecosystem? A7IV or S5IIX?
Great question! Fortunately, you can't go wrong with either :) You already know my i went with the Sony system, that is what made the most sense for me. You'll find a much more robust ecosystem that supports the Sony when compared to the Lumix. That carried a lot of weight for me in my decision!
IBIS was mentioned but what about one the most important things, Color Science? I don't own either, but after looking at hundreds of our hours of footage from both and hearing comments, I don't think I would want to color correct jaundiced skin tones every time. Even videoing grass, it looks yellowy green.
I am still probably getting the S5 ii, even after this video.
To me the one big thing Sony has going, is the large choice of lenses.
Fair enough! Thanks for sharing your perspective! The ecosystem surrounding Sony cameras is a pretty tough to beat, but there are ways around it if need be!
Best of luck out there, and happy shooting!
Kudos for a reviewer that actually makes a recommendation and doesn't sit on the fence. I have both. The aftermarket and lens ecosystem are definite strengths of the Sony system over competitors even if it does get worryingly hot
Thanks man! I appreciate the support! At some point, you've just got to make a decision knowing there is no objectively "right" answer.
What lens do you have with your /5ii X? Better than a7iv?
@photosblossomsau1624 at the moment I only have the 50mm f1.8 because I'm still searching for something I want but the choice is very limited. That's kind of the problem
There is nothing overwhelming, just OVERHEATING. The A7Iv has temper tantrum spells OVERHEATING & shut-downs. So what good is 33 mpx if the cam goes on a temper tantrum in the middle of my Hollywood Blockbuster Shoot? The other cam, the Lumix S5iix has much better manners. Cecil B. DeMille just let us know that he's using the second can his SECOND Blockbuster, The Ten Commandments, Version II shot in anamorphic with the Lumix S5iiX. Period. Nothing more to say! 😎😎
I appreciate the insight! I can only speak to my own experience, and I haven’t had an overheating problem with either of my A7iv’s. (Even on long hot days) so I feel confident in my equipment but I realize not everyone has been so fortunate!
I have been absolutely loving focus breathing compensation though! I didn’t realize how much it bothered me until now. The Sony Focus Depth map has really been a great tool
Fair enough. I bought the s5ii. Nice video good points as well.
You'll love it I'm sure! You can't go wrong with either, thanks for checking out the video!
God Bless you man of God. And I subscribed. I'm leaning toward the s5iix for me B camera also as Hybrid camera for photography.. I have the BMPCC 6K PRO as my A camera.
Thank you so much, I appreciate you! The good news is, both are incredible cameras to work with. I have no doubt you'll be able to make some awesome things with it!
Thanks for watching!
My biggest draw back is the lowlight capabilities of the s5 ii (x). Im a documentary filmmaker and want to be able to shoot in any situation and tell a story (also my main freelance work is where I dont have control over the light) , the a7s III is a little above my budget, in NL (Where im from) they are 4200 euros which is 4500 US dollars. That is not worth the low light performance for me, so I gravitated towards the A7 IV or the the s5 II (X). What is your opinion about the low light performace of the s5 ii (X), do you think it holds up?
@@OffTheHorizon I'd expect both bodies to perform very similarly in low light, all things being equal. When it comes to the more budget friendly, low light option the s5iix probably wins because of the available lenses! Their lineup of prime lenses are quite afford and would be helpful in low light given their wider aperture. The sony equivalent will be a bit more expensive.
Great question! Thanks for checking out the vid!
The S primes, with the 67mm front, actually don't have focus breathing - pretty wild at that price. The big draw of the S5ii for me is the anamorphic support + open gate - on even the FX3 I can't get a desqueezed image of my 1.5x anamorphic, that means Id need a monitor 100% of the time. Then on top of this, Panasonic implemented the first ever anamorphic IBIS ... wild, I can just slap my Atlas Mercury on the S5ii and handhold shoot - no gimbal, no monitor, I can even where it around my neck during travel. Panasonic needs an FX3/30 style body, and Sony needs open gate, anamorphic support + cinema features ... at least in their FX line
The S prime's lack of optical breathing really is quite an accomplishment for any lens, let alone for one at that price point! I bet the Mercury on an s5ii is an AWESOME combination. Thanks for commenting and checking out the video! :)
I was almost sold on the s5ii until I started looking at lenses. I can get 2 to 3 used lenses for the cost of a used l mount lens
The L-Mount lens system is definitely an interesting one! While not as robust as say the 'e' mount, the abililty to use Leica glass natively is awesome! The Lumix lenses are optically really nice as well, at a much more budget friendly price.
The Panasonic s5ii doesn’t have Low-pass filter, this can cause big issues with moirè. This is enough to let me choose Sony
Thanks for shedding some light on this! I failed to mention this in the video but it is definitely noteworthy! Glad you're here!
lower megapixel count is actually a good thing for video cameras.
It certainly has its pros/cons to it!
Troy, great work, as usual. I read through the comments and you’ve meanioned a few times that 24p hasn’t caused any overheating. That’s my only concern with getting an a7iv as a stills camera/b cam for video. My a cam is fx3. After almost a year, are you still able to record without any overheating issues? Thanks man
Much appreciated! Great question, one year later I'm still rocking the A7iv! I too now have an Fx3 as my A-cam and have been very pleased to use the A7iv as a B-cam/stills cam. No overheating concerns from my end!
Your video is great, but at this point is not "definitive answer" as the Lumix 3.0/2.0 (S5 II/IIX) firmware upgrades change the camera's performance "drastically" (not an exaggeration) for free. Might be time to update?
Thanks for checking out the video! I did hear that the Lumix has had a s oftware update since this video went live that adds some performance upgrades. Love to see that for all of the Lumix users! :)
I own a Sony a 6700 right now and I am thinking to sell it to buy a Lumix s5 ii. I only have one lens of Sigma so I doesn't matter alot to me. I want to record cinematic and also use to click few good pictures. So is it a good idea to sell my apsc a 6700 for a full frame S5 ii ? Thanks
I can confidently say that you can't go wrong with either system! They both will give you the cinematic footage you're after and still hold their own for photography. My personal choice was to go with the Sony system, but the S5ii has plenty of fight in it and will serve you well!
Thanks for checking out the video, and happy shooting! :)
Did you just make a whole video without talking about the whole reason to buy the S52x?? THE OPENGATE :D ??
The opengate is the reason why you would put up with all the quirks and the "new autofocus".
Opengate makes your videos easy to use for productions for SoMe without turning the camera around and film the same thing two times.
Lol! I realized after the fact I failed to mention the Open Gate recording as one of the draws! That's obviously noteworthy, so thanks for mentioning it! I was more interested in Open Gate for the anamorphic benefits, but SoMe productions are for sure a viable use so long as the bit depth and af limitations are acceptable trade-offs.
Thanks for checking out the vid!
@@TroyMairs always checking out your awesome videoes 🤩😎 its always a good Vibe in your videos 🤟
please Keep making them.
I have been to so many shoots where the client has afsked afterwards if it could be made into reels.. and it is just a pain if you didnt take that i to account.. especially when filming on the c70 (the R5c has more res) and your framing is gonna be super wide if you film for both on a 16:9 ratio.
I have startet to tell clients that we need to film the whole thing two times, where one is with the c70 on the side , or with two cameras.
The Panasonic with the opengate is just awesome for those situations.
Much appreciated man! Glad to have you here :) I have a great time making these vids and then getting to chat down here in the comments!
I really like your film/editing style for some reason. And thanks for the video. This might be the naive choice for me, but I think I'll go with the s5iiX. I seem to like their offering. Though it's VERY close with Sony. This will be my first mirrorless camera and a massive upgrade over my Nikon D5200.
Thank you very much! I'm pumped for you man, you certainly can't go wrong with the s5iix :) Its a great camera, that's why the decision was soo hard for me to make!
@@TroyMairs absolutely agree with you there. Before I heard about this camera the Sony A7iv was gonna be my go too. But then this came around. Couldn't resist. Especially being a few bucks cheaper without much compromise
Thank you. I knew the Sony A7IV would be the better option. I have the A7III and I want to upgrade to the A7V.
Happy to help! I’ve really enjoyed the ecosystem Sony provides in comparison to other brands. The cages, hot shoe mics, lens choices, they all play a part in choosing the right body!
For photography terms, does those few extra megapixels make a lot of difference or not?
I want a good camera for macro dentistry.
I find that extra megapixels show their hand when cropping an image 100% and higher, or trying to print larger photos like billboards or posters.
When it comes to macro images, the right lens is going to make the biggest impact, over the megapixels. Both of the sensors are going to provide excellent resolution for that. Macro photography is often done a narrow apertures, requiring lots of light. So an argument could be made that a “lower” megapixel camera might be better as they tend to have less noise in low light environments. But we’d be splitting hairs at that point!:)
canon eos r5 vs e r5 mk2?
Both can be great tools to own and use. I have enjoyed the Sony ecosystem and the image quality is better than expected. Even in this video, I could tell the Sony right away as the skin tones looked better. I would have never said that in the past but Sony upped their game. Don't look back as every brand is a viable option these days. Pick a system and learn it inside and out. The A7sIII/A7iv + Phantom Alexa Natural LUT has been working well for me. On the still side, the A7IV + Cobalt color profiles gets me right at and better than my old Canon 5DMKIII. Best of luck!
Oh great point! “Pick a system an LEARN it inside and out” - that will have a bigger impact on image quality than either of these camera bodies!
The Phantom LUTs are great! I'm not familiar with the Cobalt presets, I'm going to go check them out!
Followed because I heard the background music !!!!
Pumped to have you here then, thanks for the encouragement!
I’m a complete flip on this comparison when I had both in hand 😂.
Isn't that funny!? lol I think that speaks to value of renting gear first!
use a dark background next time and don't waste half the video explaining why you're making the video. just get to the point.
Thanks for the feedback, I’m always trying to make the best videos I can!
I had the FX3, sold it for more than I bought it in the pandemic and bought the A7IV and actually love it more than I did the FX3 for several reasons. But the only downside is over heating on hot days. Totally stinks when it happens, Since I shoot 60P 4K almost 90% of the time, it is impossible to shoot very long in hot weather. Semi hot weather that is, I could not imagine shooting in the summer in Florida for more than a few minutes at a time..
I had that same experience with loving the A7IV more than I anticipated. The overheating is for sure a calculated risk unfortunately, but I've had pretty good luck so far! We don't get quite as hot up here by Chicago:)
Why no real footages and practical examples?
I wish I could have rented them both longer to do just that!
how is canon R5C compared to both of these i am confused. i have been shooting with canon 5Dmarkiii and canon60D invested in a lot of lens planning to sell my 60D and shifting one of these i shoot product portrait in my studio and interior photo and because of video i am planning to shift mirrorless
In your situation, there may be some benefit to choosing the R5C or maybe even the R5 if you have a lot of ef lenses that you would like to continue using.
Personally, I have avoided the R5C entirely given its terrible battery life. I did not want to have to rig an external battery to my camera so I passed on that camera.
Hope this helps!
what's about the workflow in such a market that's sony dominant? I mean, the modern filmmaking scene have so many freelancers using sony cameras, that makes me think how to for exemple, do any kind of freelance project owning a Panasonic?
That's an interesting perspective! It does seem that a good percentage of project are shot on Sony cameras, so there is going to be some benefit in being able coexist in that ecosystem of fellow creatives! It means things like color science, lens mounts, and ergonomics are going to mesh better in certain scenarios when working with other creatives! I haven't come across many Panasonic sets meyself, but they are certainly out there and making great things! :)
Thanks for checking out the vid!
Which is better for video Sony A7S III or S5 x II?
Fortunately, you cant go wrong with either. They are both GREAT video tools! If I was going solely video, I would probably go with the FX3 over the A7siii. If that isn't an option and it has to be between these two, the S5iix probably wins if we just focus on video. The biggest drawback would be a less developed ecosystem to support your s5iix.
Nice video, and ... I was like you in the same situation. But.... I chose S5II. Maybe you didn't use A7IV on interviews or editorials. It sucks above 30 degrees temperature. Anyway ... good luck with it!
Thanks for checking it out and sharing your experience! It’s always interesting how we can all have the same cameras in our hands and come to opposite decision 😂
In my latest video I used an A7iv as a B cam for an all day shoot without overheating 👍 Better yet, we had to turn the A/C off to get clean audio. Much to my surprise even, no over heating issues!
@@TroyMairs I've seen that some people seem to get lucky with their A7IV and don't come across that overheating issue. I use one for work and unfortunately it overheats pretty regularly even during interviews in air conditioned rooms :( With that, I just bought the S5IIX and am stoked to use it :D Thx for the comparison!
I hate to resurrect this comment section, but I have a question. I current shoot on the Canon EOS R, but the recording limit, 4k crop, hit-or-miss AF, plus no 3rd party lenses makes me tempted to move to a new platform. At the moment i am possibly going to trade in my gear to mpb for a r6 mak II. Would a Lumix S5 IIx be a better camera for product/edc photo and video for RUclips and IG?
Great question! I truly think the best thing you can do is rent both of the cameras for a few days and I think the answer will become clear to you right away! From a "specs" perspective the two cameras are nearly identical and more than capable machines! One is probably not "better" than the other for the task, but when you use them I think one camera will immediately spark more inspiration within yourself as a creator. That's what I found with the A7Iv in this video!
@@TroyMairs I have the Lumix s5 iix rented right now actually. So far I like it..
@@TroyMairs So...I have rented both now and the AF is better on the Sony, but the Lumix has more features.
Sony cameras are seen as the standard in the market, similar to Apple, thanks to their effective marketing on platforms like RUclips. However, they may not necessarily be significantly better than their competitors. Sony's focus on creating a perceived strong ecosystem palys a huge part in that.
While there is often talk about the variety of lenses available, most filmmakers typically use prime lenses or standard zooms. It's uncommon to find a Sony shooter using a lens that cannot be found in other camera mounts.
Sony offers excellent cameras, but that might not be the sole reason why many people prefer them. I believe it's because people feel like part of an exclusive club when they proudly mention using Sony (or Canon). Ultimately, it's important to remember that all of these cameras are great options in today's market.
I think the Sony/Apply comparison is a great one! I used Android for the longest time and really enjoyed the “Apple Ecosystem” when I got in it!
I think the same mentality applies here👍
“The hardest choice is the one where you can't go wrong with either of them.”
Great review, appreciated the final choice, keep up man!
Great quote! That DEFINITELY applies to this decision! :) Thanks for sharing!
Nah, S5IIx for me. Better priced and less proprietary than Sony. Sony I would say is better if you do more photography.
They do come in at an incredible price point! I’ll give you that one👍 lol thanks for sharing your thoughts!
i could tell and the sony looked like you made a better edit out of it, better/ richer colour
Thanks for checking out the vid! For what it’s worth, the only edit applied to either clip was a rec709 color space transform. So any differences your seeing would be a difference in the color science of each camera.
lumix af is just not reliable. What the hell do we do with 6k, open gate if footage is not in focus?
Missed focus is one of the few things left we truly can't fix in post! Lol Thanks for checking out the video!
You can taste the image on the a7IV bevause of that big ass 33mp sensor
Lol heard that
I love my Panasonic S5. Still have not upgraded but if I had to chose between the two, and they were the same price, I would choose the Sony. But I do love the Panasonic a lot.
The price is a real kicker! The Panasonic is an INCREDIBLE value offering. It really does punch above its weight class! The Sony really does benefit from the fleshed out ecosystem though. That is something I have really been enjoying.
Sorry but sony looks digital and horrible, people make the a7s3 standard cuz they get paid duhh...
I think the A7s3 has done a good job of earning that title on its merits. It does a lot of things really well, and is an excellent workhouse of a camera. Any of the cameras mentioned in this video can churn out some excellent images :)
Such a good review.
I am primarily a Nikon user now planning to choose A7IV .... But after watching this video it puts me into a confusing state bw A7IV vs S5II :D
The good news is, you can't go wrong with either! They are both excellent cameras! :) I have really found myself appreciating the Sony ecosytem that surrounds this camera, and I've been happy with my choice. Best of luck with yours!
RUclipsrs push the S5Ii and S5iix all the time. The always use the same arguments. Honestly, Sony has launched 5 + new excellent cameras since the A7IV to choose from. All budgets, sizes, for many uses. Plus second hand market, plus pro cinema market. What are these youtubers talking about. They live in their own little island. S5Ii fantastic camera, but nothing to do ti why people buy Sony in my opi
There really isn’t anything wrong with the S5II camera itself! It’s when we compare the ecosystems surrounding that camera I think the difference really begins to stand out. Thanks for checking out the video!
@@TroyMairs Yes! I try to push new people to get used older cameras until they get their own style. I think the camera does not make that much difference unless you absolutely don't care about cinematography and just want to push a button.
at the end of the day, when some one make a movie, they ask "who make it ?" first ... and maybe then "what gear that he use ?" so gear up with what you got now, make some masterpiece ...
Love this! We could all use the exact same gear, location, time of day, and actors and STILL all end up with different images/movies.That's the beauty of our individuality as creators :)
Had bought the s5iix recently to replace my a7siii.. kinda odd, I know. There are lots of reasons to keep one over the other but tomorrow I’m returning the s5iix. I’m here watching this because I’m not 100% sure I’m making the right decision 😵💫🥴
Interesting! So with your experience using the two systems, what do you find is lacking with the S5iix?? And what is it you're looking for next??
I have the a7iv. Had the overheating warning kick in a couple of times and I do a lot of hybrid shooting so the IBIS has been annoying.
Besides. Going with Sony because they're the default continues the status quo.
I really like the 4k 60fps but the apsc crop is annoying which both cameras have. So I'm waiting to see what the S1 successor will have.
Also Opengate is the biggest bonus. Shooting content for both YT and IG gets annoying with only 16:9 option. Same with framing.
Open Gate and the Passive Cooling were tragic casualties of my decision! Lol They will be missed but I'm still very happy with the decision.
Thanks for checking out the vid and contributing your take!
Interesting perspective. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for checking out the vid!
Go Caleb Hoover video, he testing S5 IIX, in certain settings the PDAF IS NOWHERE TO BE FOUND!!! Go Sony!!!
For sure! 6k open gate was one of those modes where pdaf was disabled if I remember correctly! (This may have been fixed in a firmware update though, I’m not 100% sure on that!)
I’ve been thrilled my my decision! Thanks for checking out the vid!
❤is w sony but since my canon t2i was retired ive been shootin Lumix . Note im sure i would be making money w sony sayin notca dime w Lumix . So went w my head and got the X.🎉Thank You
Ayy, gotta do what you gotta do! Thanks for checking out the video man! The actual best camera is the one that you've got, so you're good! :)
If you do more video , go for lumix S5IIX, amazing .
It is likely the more "video-centric" of the two!
@@TroyMairs I was going to buy R5c but I changed my mind tho I had been royal to canon for ages , but the price and what you get from this camera is amazing stabilisation, dynamic range and 6K open gate . I’m thinking they will update it and able to record 4k120 crop or May be 4k60 uncroped.