Excellent video. I've reloaded thousands of rounds of pistol ammo. But, never any shotshells. This is very detailed and easy to understand information. Thank you.
Tyler you save many people much confusion with your videos, this one is exceptional , the wole shotshell reloading game is a little more confusng than it was in 1981. Yes I am going to be 68 feel great and still love the shooting hobbies. Thankyou one of the best presentation for people who are confused by the vast array of hulls out there.
This weekend I blew through 20 lbs making 7/8 Lee slugs. Then made one mold of 00 bucks to have some to twist them apart. Out of the three methods I know of. Twisting is the cleanest, But most time-consuming. Definitely, an excellent way to get them apart.
I've always used only high brass base hulls for buckshot loading, because most of the factory buckshot ammo I've seen are high brass base.. I know your the real deal because I saw a Lee perfect powder thrower on your bench. That is a set it and forget it powder measure. I used to check every 10th charge but with that one it's a waste of time, it doesn't change and likes all of the powders I use. Thanks for the informative post!
Great work & info for a beginner like myself. 12ga is probably the easiest reloads, that's why I respect you and your brothers for the content you share to the world.
i will do a couple more tonight but not crimp all the way down and set them on the shelf and see if they start to come open,every thing i have is just like you have in the video,same loader and hull hmm,beginner error no big deal gotta start some where,thanks for all your help and great video's i forgot to tell you but you crack us up,i know your not trying to be funny but you are haha.ttyl
Amazing breakdown on the hulls, seriously 👌. The hull confusion has always been what i was apprehensive about. My buddy always says no no you can load any of them but when i am reading it in print its easy to not feel confident. Im the kinda guy I dont like goin into things just willy nilly, i need to know exactly what im doing n understand why. You do good tutorial form content, thank you brother 💪🇺🇲🥜
Owsome lecture brother I will like to start reloading shotgun now I like oobuck and slugs it's all I'm interested thank you for the info. Will be talking to you soon
I had a few once fired Fiocchi clear hulls with deformed crimp sections that were not really suitable to fold crimp again, so I trimmed them down to 2.5". I loaded them similar to what you did with the first round you loaded: Cheddite primer, 18grs of Promo(Red Dot), green SSW with petals removed, .125" 12GA nitro card, 9 pellets of Hornady .330" 00-buck stacked by three, and a BPI .045" 12GA overshot card. It lined up just right for a roll crimp. 18grs is probably a little light, but it is what I normally use in my 1-1/8oz. clay loads, but I think it will do for some low-recoil "tactical" style buck loads.
Great video! You cover the three legs of the stool, hulls, wads and powder, more completely than any presentation I've seen on RUclips. I will definitely share this with anyone I find who wants to start reloading. It answers so many questions that make people reluctant to try this awesome hobby.
Herco also is gd for heavy loads/magnum, also the IMR BLUE, longshot works gd in my 1 1/4 oz loads in 16 gauge and 1 1/8., ive also used Bullseye in 12 g loads. 1oz field loads, small dose of it goes a ways, performed great
If you buy ready made Win 00 buckshot pellets, you can use 9 pellets using the Claybuster yellow 36gm wads with pettles on, & with no cover shot card. Look like new in my Lee Load all, Win compression formed cases.
Got a question!I'm wanting to start loading some tss for waterfowl.All loads currently have high fps hence you have to use an open choke at 40 yards.im in GA and Woodies ain't 40 yds so will slowing fps down solve this so I can choke accordingly like I do with steel and bismuth in a 20 ga.thank you so much and congrats on your baby.
I wouldn’t think tss needs open chokes for high velocity man but it also doesn’t need to be loaded super fast. 1200 fps should be plenty inside 40 yards.
This is exactly the info I've been looking for as a reloading newbie. One question is, why did you say not to use magnum primers? I'm not sure what the reasons are? Great video Thanks! 👍👍
Thanks.im trying to load slower fps because everything loaded online right now you have to shoot skeet and imp cyl at 40yds and it's still super tight but it's at 1550 fps.thats too tight for decoying Woodies in Ga in the swamp.talking to my buddy at compnchoke,he thinks slowing it down will fix it without having to mix in steel.
ok bro ive done a few and after you pre crimp it then you do the final crimp down do you squash it all the way down to where the top part comes down and contacts the bottom little metal piece that holds the hull,i wanna make sure im not over tightening it because it leaves a place on the side of mine where you can feel it with your finger,it goes in a bit on the side where the wad has the hole going thru it.kinda dips in a bit.did i over crimp it ?
You’re starting to buckle the hull, just put enough crimp on it to where it won’t open back up. Get a gaep bn2 crimp finisher and it’ll make factory looking crimps. Just need a hand drill.
Appreciate the video. Do you think now is a decent time for someone inexperienced to try to get into reloading? I heard some materials were getting bought up by panic buyers so I'm a bit wary of diving into it.
That situation was over about a year ago, nearly everything is back in stock. Hardest thing to find is blue dot and steel powders but those are the only two that aren’t always available currently. The problem right now is everything being about 20% more expensive than it was before 2020. It’ll go down though. Prices aren’t terrible so I’d say yeah get into if you can, still saving a ton of money loading buckshot, slugs, and any gauge besides 12 and 20.
Random question. If a person were to take a 1-1/4 ounce max dram load and reload it with 1 ounce of shot would I maybe see a decent boost in velocity over a 1 ounce skeet load? I ask this because I'm making wax slugs and for whatever reason the 1.25 ounce loads are tumbling immediately in flight giving something like a 2 foot group at 25 yards while the skeet loads are making a single ragged hole. I already tried it and found it to be accurate but with identical recoil leading me to believe it's not really any faster. I'm tempted to work up my own loads with some blue dot but most of my interest here lies in off the shelf SHTF aspect of it. You know, just for S&G.
Can you give me any advice about reloading 2 9/16 inch shells, I have a model 12 16 guage and a model 1897 16 that I would love to hunt with but can't find any shells , what do you recommend on how to get started reloading?? What gear do I need and where to get it ?? Thank you
Just load 2.5”. Get 2 3/4” hulls from bpi and a hull trimmer from Gary caskey and trim them to 2.5” or 2 9/16”. My email is in my bio if you want me to send Gary’s contact info. I also have tons of tested 2.5” data if you want it.
Hey brother, I appreciate the videos. What do you think about this shotshell but with 28 grains of Longshot, a thin Mylar wrap and some BSB buffer? Is it pointless to use both a Mylar wrap AND buffer? If you just use a Mylar wrap, should you reduce your powder like you would buffer?
hows it going from texas here ,ive been watching your video's for a few months and i went to buy some ammo last night and got mad and said the hell with it,im going to do it myself,so i am going to keep watching your video's and hopefully learn ,any idea who would be a one stop shop to buy everything minus the loader im going to start off with 2 3/4 inch shells primed and go with a 9 pellet im guessing a hundred rounds of everything.i live in the woods and we have hogs tearing us up at night so i can get really close to them with a flashlight in some thick yopouns i will have to watch your video again and write everything down.like pellet weight and how many i can go with in my shells.thanks man,as soon as i hear from you im making a call alright.
Mike: Question rather than comment. I've been loading for over 60 years but haven't done shotshells for decades and a lot of things have changed. I'll be loading for a KS12TS for defense. The components I have, and would like to use without acquiring others, are Alliant Blue Dot, Remington 2 3/4" unibody hulls (they're labeled SureFire), Winchester AA wads. An odd combo, I know, but this is what I have. I'll use #1 buck. What would be a reasonable charge of Blue Dot for a stout but not hazardous defense load? Also are the AA wads usable with this combo? If you decline an answer, I'll understand completely but I thought it worth a shot. Thanks a bunch!!
Those hulls are tapered and any load data for tapered hulls may be used, but not sure of the exact wad you have. Winchester made a bunch of AA wads for varying payload weights. Actually not an odd combo at all. I’d go to alliants website for blue dot powder and find a load using a Remington gun club or sts hull with the wad you have and load by the payload weight. 10 pellets of #1 buckshot is right at 1 ounce, 12 is in between 1 1/8 and 1 1/4 ounces so 1 1/4 ounce data should be used. 15 pellets is 1 3/8 ounces.
I have a question on the Longshot powder could u use that to just make a rifle slug factory wise just like the winchester super X rifle 1oz slug at 1600fps. I was thinking of getting into reloading after about 6months to 1year after I shoot off my new to the game of 12g shotgun and start reusing my shells. Thanks
@@theshotgunscientists nice. I like the sound of 2k fps.. but 1600 factory stock already dose a good kicking lol. Specially those bucks/deer.. ya because I'm a rifle 308 type of a guy or pistol and never knew about reloading with all my years but when I went to a old timers house and he had a crap load of rifle and pistol empty shells he told me about it and plus his no-good casings he brings to the metal recycling to get money back and I never knew why and then found out the 411 and since shotguns are easy and I just purchased a shotgun I was like sounds like a good investment Specially if I'll shoot say 200rounds a month then after that 6months to a year you know. Buy a lee load with a thing of powder a 500 bag of wads and circle wads and primers with say a small bag of 00,bird,slugs to start off and save money in the long run because a box of 25rd slugs are running about 25$ a box when right there is a supply of say wads so in reality 6months of if I but 100$ or even 50$ of shells a month i would of already invested 300$ to 600$ when that amount can get you how much rounds if you just order the components with 300$/600$ worth of goodies
I like your videos very informative I do have a question I’m using brand new 2 3/4 Fiocchi primed hulls, longshot powder, BRP-12 brush wads, and #00 super buck I would like to stack 9 pellets by 3s how many grains of powder do I use I was thinking 27grn. But not sure since I can’t find load data for this setup
Do you include the wad, overshot card and any felt or cork as part of the payload weight? If I have a 2-3/4 hull, mg42 hull, 10 stacked by 2 Remington 00 shot and 1 overshot card with 6 point crimp. The total for 10 00 shot, was and os card came to 1.336 oz. Im planning on using 1 3/8 shot data
There isn’t one. .410 powders are way too slow burning for anything larger than 28 gauge unless you want really heavy loads. In 20 gauge it’s good for loads 1 1/8 ounce to 1.5 ounces, in 16 gauge 1 3/8 to 1 3/4 ounces, 12 gauge 2 to 2.75 ounces and 10 gauge 2 3/8 to 3 ounces. For .410 get lil gun for anything else use longshot.
Magic bud video bug AGAIN - You realy do help us beginners get started. - - I am wondering how much/many grains of Longshot you would use in a 3 inch shell with 15 pellets/bölls ?
May I ask a question. I have a 15 pellet 00buck magnum. I can not find more of it. It has a od green hull. The hull is smooth and is a hi brass. Is this an unusual round?
I have loads from ballistic products. A chedditte 2 3/4 inch with 28 grains of long shot using a HSD-18 wad with 9 pellets of 00 buck (.33 ). Doesn't fit.unless I cut the petals off the HSD-18 Will stack by threes ? With the petels 8 pellets of 00 buck stack by twos.
Hello, i am well versed in metallic reloading but very new to shot shells. I have a good deal of sterling and s&b 12 gauge hulls i wish to reload buck and slugs in. I have two issues, how do you tell a straight wall case from a tapered case if it is not clear to see if powder gets past the wad and what reload data can be used as far as powder charges go. I have the manual from ballistic products but they only cover certain cases, none of which are the ones im using. Any assistance would be good. I have blue dot and lil gun and tring to find some longshot.
All euro hulls are straight wall, look down inside the hull if you see a tall separate base wad with a ridge it’s tapered. An example being the AAHS and super target hulls.
You mentioned loading a 3oz loads for 12ga I was wondering where can I find the load data. As I’m wanting to load slugs that weigh 1220gr hardcast which is actually.686 in diameter any help would be greatly appreciated. Also this is to be subsonic for my silenced IWI Ts12
3 ounces in 10 gauge, 2 3/4 ounces in 12 gauge. I’ve actually covered the load numerous times in the videos if you wanna go back and look. Max powder charge for 2 3/4 ounces in 12 gauge is 43 grains of lil gun and it’s moving 1100 fps and has to be fired from a 3.5” gun.
Question. Can I take a factory target shell in 12 or 20 gauge that uses 7/8 oz of #8 shot and remove the #8 shot and replace it with 7/8 oz of whatever buckshot I have and be safe?
Great videos , but is their a reason why you use The Loadall two and not Mec loaders ? They are usually considered industry standards and very durable !
The end result is exactly the same, I can load 8 different gauges with just 1 press, it needs no adjustments, is 1/4 the cost, and I prefer their simplicity. I have used mecs before there’s nothing wrong with them I just prefer the Lee presses.
Lilgun can push 1.5oz to 2+ ounces in 12 gauge just fine... It gets a bad wrap, but it's pretty dang universal in 12 gauge. I've tested Lil'Gun in 12 gauge with 1.5oz with 48 grains (won't say the wad) and got 1425 FPS and 11k PSI. Like you said, its some crazy stuff. I love it.
When I bought my first pound of it I though it was gonna last months if not over a year, I thought it was only useful for 410. Now we’re going through it like crazy in all gauges.
Thank you for the video and your time! You make it easy to understand and follow. I'm curious if it's worth it to reload ourselves compared to buying from the manufacturers? How much was the total cost for that one shell? If I made my own ammo, approximately how much per shell for 12ga 2¾ 00 @ 1400fps and slug @ 1600fps? Thanks again!
It all just depends on how many pellets you want but for buckshot and birdshot the faster you push the velocity the more it spreads. Loading your own buckshot and slugs is a lot cheaper than buying factory ammo especially if you cast your own lead.
Hull not hole, but Winchester tapered hulls will have a tall basewad inside the hull that’s clearly visible, tapered hulls are usually smooth like no texture on the plastic. Remington gun club and game load hulls are the exception.
I’ve got a bunch of rem gun club hulls, cbo118s, win 209 primers, and only powder I can find is longshot. Any experience with loading that sort of combo for 9 pellet #00?
@@theshotgunscientists wow that was fast! I checked the Hodgdon website but their info for longshot is minimal. Thanks for the response. New subscriber but will surely be a long time subscriber!
I haven’t but it would be easy with a roll crimp. 13.5 grains of lil gun and a 3/8 ounce load would be a nice one. Bpi stocks 2” shells but they are out. Gary caskey makes a 410 hull trimming kit that works like a dream and bpi has 2.5” hulls in stock. What gun is it? Old stevens or h&r chambered in 44 shot/44xl?
@@theshotgunscientists thanks for the information, I hadn't even thought to check bpi for 2 inch hulls. It's a newport model wn which I believe to be manufactured by crescent sometime in the early 1900s
ok man i have everything i got it from where you told me to get it from,and i have a buck shot manual 4th edition this will be my first time so bare with me, the manual shows load id.bkl10920-2484 then 12 ga. hull is fiocchi primer fio616 longshot powder then grns. 32 ,plastic wad mg42 ,overshot os12, load grns 516 ,#00np, stack, 2 x5 =10 heres my question i have a scale where i can put a metal tray on it then hit taring it clears then i load powder. is it calling for 32 grains ? then what is 516 load grns ? so i put the powder in then wad then pellets then overshot then crimp it ? this should be it for me dude? thanks just wanna make sure.once i get going i will be ok
@@theshotgunscientists nah he said i didnt need any buffer and i didnt want to say anything,so for my first run im just going to make something simple bro,then i will do something different from one of your video's and i will for sure get some.ive got a hundred rounds of 9 pellets that i bought and spent a ton of money on and said the hell with that and bought the lees loader. i have 100 hulls,im not sure if i will make all of them with 10 pellets or not.its supposed to be 1450 fps which sounds good to me.thanks for your help ttyl man.
Question for the expert: I am beginning to make my own rounds, and was wondering how you would personally go about making this. I personally like its low FPS of 1150, but it is kind of expensive. Any suggestions on wad/part combos? Any answers are greatly appreciated! Winchester S12PDX1 Defender 12 Gauge 2.75" Slug Buckshot combo (438 grains) The 12-gauge Defender ammunition features a distinctive black hull, black oxide high-base head and 3 pellets of Grex buffered plated buckshot nested on top of a 1 oz rifled slug. The result is the ideal, tight patterning personal defense load. The slug/buckshot combination provides optimum performance at short and long ranges while compensating for aim error.
Bpi 1 ounce value slugs, 3 pellets of 00 buck. You’ll need the green short shell wad from bpi, tear off the petals, use a 12 gauge overshot card on top the wad, the slug, buckshot and fold crimp. Powder charge would be 26 grains of longshot. It’s a 1 3/8 ounce load.
Great video! I've been loading 12 & 20 gauge for years from #9 shot down to #4 shot, but never buck. Can you please tell me what mold you recommend? Also, do you tumble with anything in the machine with the shot, or just the lead shot? Lastly, what is your lead alloy mix? Thank you very much!
For 20 gauge a Marty’s arms .290 mold. That size will fit every gauge from 24 to 10 gauge. I’m using wheel weights. Just the lead with .730 cal round balls.
@@artillerybuff2000 lead and harbor freight single drum is what I use. You don’t have to use the .730 round balls they just speed the process up a little.
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Love what you young men do. You make it easy for this old Kentuckian to load buck. Thanks again
We’re from Kentucky too
Excellent video. I've reloaded thousands of rounds of pistol ammo. But, never any shotshells. This is very detailed and easy to understand information. Thank you.
Thanks man
Tyler you save many people much confusion with your videos, this one is exceptional , the wole shotshell reloading game is a little more confusng than it was in 1981. Yes I am going to be 68 feel great and still love the shooting hobbies. Thankyou one of the best presentation for people who are confused by the vast array of hulls out there.
Thanks man
Man your channel is my go to for shotgun shell reloading. Especially buckshot.
Thanks man
Great tutorial! Really helpful info for us beginners! Thank you, Mike.
Appreciate it man
You, sir, are a walking encyclopedia. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us all.
Thanks man
That was a really nice presentation, Tyler. I wish I had seen that back when I was learning this stuff. Well done man👍
Thanks for watching man
thanks for this video. just started shotgun reloading. yall make it alot easier. keep em coming.
Though I regret not watching this before throwing out a ton of Super Target hulls, now I know to keep them. Lots of great information in this video!
Thanks for watching!
Awesome. This is exactly the load I was searching for when I stumbled across your channel. Thank you!
Thanks for watching man
Thank you very much!
I'm so glad I found you guys on RUclips what you guys are doing is right up my alley
Thanks man
excellent video. Thank you very much. I am just getting back into reloading after 30 years away from it. I needed the refresher.
Thanks man.
Another great video with a reliable old school load. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for watching man
This weekend I blew through 20 lbs making 7/8 Lee slugs. Then made one mold of 00 bucks to have some to twist them apart. Out of the three methods I know of. Twisting is the cleanest, But most time-consuming. Definitely, an excellent way to get them apart.
Just fired my first reloads today. I wanted to drop by and thank you for your knowledge; you helped me get into this.
Thanks man appreciate it
I've always used only high brass base hulls for buckshot loading, because most of the factory buckshot ammo I've seen are high brass base.. I know your the real deal because I saw a Lee perfect powder thrower on your bench. That is a set it and forget it powder measure. I used to check every 10th charge but with that one it's a waste of time, it doesn't change and likes all of the powders I use. Thanks for the informative post!
Thanks man
Great video! Not sure how I missed this when it came out!! I usually see your vids as soon as they drop!!
Glad you enjoyed it man
perfect video man def made it real simple and got the job done !
Thanks
Great job on providing a lot of information very clearly. You have been helpful.
Thanks man
Great tutorial. Got lucky in a trade and scored both longshot and hs6. Now I gotta get some 00 pellets.
I highly recommend casting your own man, I have some on eBay if you want them though. Guitarguy1995 is my eBay name.
top shelf good information thank you
Thanks man
Great work & info for a beginner like myself. 12ga is probably the easiest reloads, that's why I respect you and your brothers for the content you share to the world.
Thanks man
Are these all 2 3/4 hulls?
@@1212skindog yep sure are
i will do a couple more tonight but not crimp all the way down and set them on the shelf and see if they start to come open,every thing i have is just like you have in the video,same loader and hull hmm,beginner error no big deal gotta start some where,thanks for all your help and great video's i forgot to tell you but you crack us up,i know your not trying to be funny but you are haha.ttyl
Thanks lol
great info, excellent video
Excellent scoop! 👍👍
Outstanding presentation!
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Excellent tutorial! Thank you Sir!
Thanks for watching man
Amazing breakdown on the hulls, seriously 👌.
The hull confusion has always been what i was apprehensive about. My buddy always says no no you can load any of them but when i am reading it in print its easy to not feel confident. Im the kinda guy I dont like goin into things just willy nilly, i need to know exactly what im doing n understand why.
You do good tutorial form content, thank you brother 💪🇺🇲🥜
Thanks man.
Awesome video,I picked up a bunch of info and tips.Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Great information thank you
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Excellent! Just bravo! Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
I was able to get about 6 good trap loads out of those super targets. Also loaded buckshot but never to failure. Point is, yes, they are reloadable.
Some people outright refuse to reload them claiming they can’t be
@@theshotgunscientists Bumble bees couldn't fly if they listened to "the experts".
Really helpful! Thank you sir 💪
Glad it was helpful!
Have you ever considered publishing a reloading manual?
Maybe one day
I'd buy it. This hairy sob has his shit together
@theshotgunscientists how about today brother
Owsome lecture brother I will like to start reloading shotgun now I like oobuck and slugs it's all I'm interested thank you for the info. Will be talking to you soon
What about crowd funding test for shot shells? I thought about setting one to to test more powders
I had a few once fired Fiocchi clear hulls with deformed crimp sections that were not really suitable to fold crimp again, so I trimmed them down to 2.5". I loaded them similar to what you did with the first round you loaded: Cheddite primer, 18grs of Promo(Red Dot), green SSW with petals removed, .125" 12GA nitro card, 9 pellets of Hornady .330" 00-buck stacked by three, and a BPI .045" 12GA overshot card. It lined up just right for a roll crimp. 18grs is probably a little light, but it is what I normally use in my 1-1/8oz. clay loads, but I think it will do for some low-recoil "tactical" style buck loads.
Sounds like a good load
Great info...
Thanks for this
Glad to do it
Enjoyed the video!
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Good Job great tutorial
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Appreciate the video nice pug shirt
Thanks man.
Great video! You cover the three legs of the stool, hulls, wads and powder, more completely than any presentation I've seen on RUclips. I will definitely share this with anyone I find who wants to start reloading. It answers so many questions that make people reluctant to try this awesome hobby.
Thanks man
Hi there Good information happy day be safe god bless happy holidays to all.
See you next time.
Great video
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Great stuff 👍
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I like this one
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Wow thank you for all the info there well dune :)
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I like the tutorial on the Hulls & Wads, You can do a whole other video on just that! 🤔🤔👍👍
Probably so
That was great since subscribing I've watched 129 of your videos and have really enjoyed them i really want to start got to same my penny's.
Thanks for all the support man
Herco also is gd for heavy loads/magnum, also the IMR BLUE, longshot works gd in my 1 1/4 oz loads in 16 gauge and 1 1/8., ive also used Bullseye in 12 g loads. 1oz field loads, small dose of it goes a ways, performed great
Herco hasn’t been on the shelf here in years, Imr blue is discontinued but josh has some lol.
@@theshotgunscientists i got 3/4lb herco. And 2 lbs of blue...same as steel...cant find anywheres here
Love the pug 1 shirt
I got it when he first put them out years ago
To send the shortshell wad, against the powder, I use the repriming station, on my Lee loadall
Yep you can do that
Simply outstanding!👏👏👍 Would this load data be the same for 3 inch shots/slugs? Thanks👍
You’d have to add an x12x gas seal
If you buy ready made Win 00 buckshot pellets, you can use 9 pellets using the Claybuster yellow 36gm wads with pettles on, & with no cover shot card. Look like new in my Lee Load all, Win compression formed cases.
Probably .32 cal
@@theshotgunscientists not sure but the pellets are same size as factory loaded OO buck.
@@tinytedy They use .32 cal in their factory loads which isn’t bad stuff at all.
Got a question!I'm wanting to start loading some tss for waterfowl.All loads currently have high fps hence you have to use an open choke at 40 yards.im in GA and Woodies ain't 40 yds so will slowing fps down solve this so I can choke accordingly like I do with steel and bismuth in a 20 ga.thank you so much and congrats on your baby.
I wouldn’t think tss needs open chokes for high velocity man but it also doesn’t need to be loaded super fast. 1200 fps should be plenty inside 40 yards.
3rd time watching... and each time while in the bathroom.
This is exactly the info I've been looking for as a reloading newbie.
One question is, why did you say not to use magnum primers? I'm not sure what the reasons are? Great video Thanks! 👍👍
Magnum primers create a lot more pressure. I was just saying not to use a magnum primer with this specific load. I use them all the time.
I recommend RUclips channel Bubba Round Tree outdoors 😊 in addition to this channel 😊
Thanks.im trying to load slower fps because everything loaded online right now you have to shoot skeet and imp cyl at 40yds and it's still super tight but it's at 1550 fps.thats too tight for decoying Woodies in Ga in the swamp.talking to my buddy at compnchoke,he thinks slowing it down will fix it without having to mix in steel.
Probably so
Excellent video with great content.
Enjoyed this how to - wondering if you have a video using cardboard overcards rather the the plastic wads ?
We use them all the time
ok bro ive done a few and after you pre crimp it then you do the final crimp down do you squash it all the way down to where the top part comes down and contacts the bottom little metal piece that holds the hull,i wanna make sure im not over tightening it because it leaves a place on the side of mine where you can feel it with your finger,it goes in a bit on the side where the wad has the hole going thru it.kinda dips in a bit.did i over crimp it ?
You’re starting to buckle the hull, just put enough crimp on it to where it won’t open back up. Get a gaep bn2 crimp finisher and it’ll make factory looking crimps. Just need a hand drill.
I've been using Hornady "32 cal" muzzle loader pellets since they're 0.31" and actually available unlike buck shot.
You can get any size buckshot you want from bpi in several different hardnesses and platings
Yes, I now have 16lbs of #0 on their way to me - thank you!@@theshotgunscientists
Appreciate the video. Do you think now is a decent time for someone inexperienced to try to get into reloading? I heard some materials were getting bought up by panic buyers so I'm a bit wary of diving into it.
That situation was over about a year ago, nearly everything is back in stock. Hardest thing to find is blue dot and steel powders but those are the only two that aren’t always available currently. The problem right now is everything being about 20% more expensive than it was before 2020. It’ll go down though. Prices aren’t terrible so I’d say yeah get into if you can, still saving a ton of money loading buckshot, slugs, and any gauge besides 12 and 20.
Great video. Where were you sourcing your components? Thans in advance.
Ballistic products
CAN YOU DO A SHOW ON RELOADING BRASS 410 AND 12 GAUGE SHELLS?
I don’t have any I just have them in 32 gauge and 16 gauge
I like that pug 1 pliance shirt, lol
Random question. If a person were to take a 1-1/4 ounce max dram load and reload it with 1 ounce of shot would I maybe see a decent boost in velocity over a 1 ounce skeet load?
I ask this because I'm making wax slugs and for whatever reason the 1.25 ounce loads are tumbling immediately in flight giving something like a 2 foot group at 25 yards while the skeet loads are making a single ragged hole. I already tried it and found it to be accurate but with identical recoil leading me to believe it's not really any faster.
I'm tempted to work up my own loads with some blue dot but most of my interest here lies in off the shelf SHTF aspect of it. You know, just for S&G.
Lightening the payload that much is probably causing erratic pressures and powder burns, and the longer shot column is probably a lot less stable.
I don't know if I missed it. But can you use straightwall wads in a tapered hull
No
Can you give me any advice about reloading 2 9/16 inch shells, I have a model 12 16 guage and a model 1897 16 that I would love to hunt with but can't find any shells , what do you recommend on how to get started reloading?? What gear do I need and where to get it ?? Thank you
Just load 2.5”. Get 2 3/4” hulls from bpi and a hull trimmer from Gary caskey and trim them to 2.5” or 2 9/16”. My email is in my bio if you want me to send Gary’s contact info. I also have tons of tested 2.5” data if you want it.
Hey brother, I appreciate the videos. What do you think about this shotshell but with 28 grains of Longshot, a thin Mylar wrap and some BSB buffer? Is it pointless to use both a Mylar wrap AND buffer? If you just use a Mylar wrap, should you reduce your powder like you would buffer?
The Mylar wrap weighs nothing and doesn’t effect pressure, in this load it’s meant to protect the hull from being torn up by the buffer and pellets.
hows it going from texas here ,ive been watching your video's for a few months and i went to buy some ammo last night and got mad and said the hell with it,im going to do it myself,so i am going to keep watching your video's and hopefully learn ,any idea who would be a one stop shop to buy everything minus the loader im going to start off with 2 3/4 inch shells primed and go with a 9 pellet im guessing a hundred rounds of everything.i live in the woods and we have hogs tearing us up at night so i can get really close to them with a flashlight in some thick yopouns i will have to watch your video again and write everything down.like pellet weight and how many i can go with in my shells.thanks man,as soon as i hear from you im making a call alright.
Ballistic products. You can get everything you need from them.
@@theshotgunscientists thanks man ttyl.
Mike: Question rather than comment. I've been loading for over 60 years but haven't done shotshells for decades and a lot of things have changed. I'll be loading for a KS12TS for defense. The components I have, and would like to use without acquiring others, are Alliant Blue Dot, Remington 2 3/4" unibody hulls (they're labeled SureFire), Winchester AA wads. An odd combo, I know, but this is what I have. I'll use #1 buck. What would be a reasonable charge of Blue Dot for a stout but not hazardous defense load? Also are the AA wads usable with this combo? If you decline an answer, I'll understand completely but I thought it worth a shot. Thanks a bunch!!
Those hulls are tapered and any load data for tapered hulls may be used, but not sure of the exact wad you have. Winchester made a bunch of AA wads for varying payload weights. Actually not an odd combo at all. I’d go to alliants website for blue dot powder and find a load using a Remington gun club or sts hull with the wad you have and load by the payload weight. 10 pellets of #1 buckshot is right at 1 ounce, 12 is in between 1 1/8 and 1 1/4 ounces so 1 1/4 ounce data should be used. 15 pellets is 1 3/8 ounces.
I have a question on the Longshot powder could u use that to just make a rifle slug factory wise just like the winchester super X rifle 1oz slug at 1600fps. I was thinking of getting into reloading after about 6months to 1year after I shoot off my new to the game of 12g shotgun and start reusing my shells. Thanks
Yes you can easily. You can do a 7/8oz slug at 2000 fps too.
@@theshotgunscientists nice. I like the sound of 2k fps.. but 1600 factory stock already dose a good kicking lol. Specially those bucks/deer.. ya because I'm a rifle 308 type of a guy or pistol and never knew about reloading with all my years but when I went to a old timers house and he had a crap load of rifle and pistol empty shells he told me about it and plus his no-good casings he brings to the metal recycling to get money back and I never knew why and then found out the 411 and since shotguns are easy and I just purchased a shotgun I was like sounds like a good investment Specially if I'll shoot say 200rounds a month then after that 6months to a year you know. Buy a lee load with a thing of powder a 500 bag of wads and circle wads and primers with say a small bag of 00,bird,slugs to start off and save money in the long run because a box of 25rd slugs are running about 25$ a box when right there is a supply of say wads so in reality 6months of if I but 100$ or even 50$ of shells a month i would of already invested 300$ to 600$ when that amount can get you how much rounds if you just order the components with 300$/600$ worth of goodies
I like your videos very informative I do have a question I’m using brand new 2 3/4 Fiocchi primed hulls, longshot powder, BRP-12 brush wads, and #00 super buck I would like to stack 9 pellets by 3s how many grains of powder do I use I was thinking 27grn. But not sure since I can’t find load data for this setup
9 pellets is 1 1/8 ounces if you’re using .33 cal. I’d start at 30 grains.
@@theshotgunscientists thank you
Do you include the wad, overshot card and any felt or cork as part of the payload weight? If I have a 2-3/4 hull, mg42 hull, 10 stacked by 2 Remington 00 shot and 1 overshot card with 6 point crimp. The total for 10 00 shot, was and os card came to 1.336 oz. Im planning on using 1 3/8 shot data
You don’t include the wad or filler no.
@@theshotgunscientiststhank you!
I'm looking for 1 powder for both 410 and 12ga with 00, 000, and slugs. What 1 powder(s) will do both?
There isn’t one. .410 powders are way too slow burning for anything larger than 28 gauge unless you want really heavy loads. In 20 gauge it’s good for loads 1 1/8 ounce to 1.5 ounces, in 16 gauge 1 3/8 to 1 3/4 ounces, 12 gauge 2 to 2.75 ounces and 10 gauge 2 3/8 to 3 ounces. For .410 get lil gun for anything else use longshot.
Thanks for this video Mike! What do you think of the Nitro 100?
My name is Tyler actually lol but I’ve never seen that powder in person here.
@@theshotgunscientists Oh, sorry Tyler.
So the Lee will resize the base ring on the steel gun club hulls?
95% of Shotshells made today have steel bases. They are just brass plated steel. There is no press made that can’t resize steel bases.
Magic bud video bug AGAIN - You realy do help us beginners get started. - - I am wondering how much/many grains of Longshot you would use in a 3 inch shell with 15 pellets/bölls ?
27 grains
@@theshotgunscientists Thanks bud.
May I ask a question. I have a 15 pellet 00buck magnum. I can not find more of it. It has a od green hull. The hull is smooth and is a hi brass. Is this an unusual round?
Send me a photo of it my email is that about section on here
@@theshotgunscientists ok.
Hey Tyler, can a fella use the base of an MG-42 in substitute for the green mini?
Yeah they’re the same aside from the mg42 having 2 hinges in the bottom of the shot cup. Load the pellets between them.
I have loads from ballistic products. A chedditte 2 3/4 inch with 28 grains of long shot using a HSD-18 wad with 9 pellets of 00 buck (.33 ). Doesn't fit.unless I cut the petals off the HSD-18 Will stack by threes ? With the petels 8 pellets of 00 buck stack by twos.
Yeah that’s how it goes. .33 stacked by 3’s don’t fit in a wad unless you’re using a 10 gauge.
Thanks for the info . What do you load for pheasents in 12 gauge
We’ve done a long range pheasant load recently
@@theshotgunscientists thats what im looking for
Hello, i am well versed in metallic reloading but very new to shot shells. I have a good deal of sterling and s&b 12 gauge hulls i wish to reload buck and slugs in. I have two issues, how do you tell a straight wall case from a tapered case if it is not clear to see if powder gets past the wad and what reload data can be used as far as powder charges go. I have the manual from ballistic products but they only cover certain cases, none of which are the ones im using. Any assistance would be good. I have blue dot and lil gun and tring to find some longshot.
All euro hulls are straight wall, look down inside the hull if you see a tall separate base wad with a ridge it’s tapered. An example being the AAHS and super target hulls.
@@theshotgunscientists thank you much.
You mentioned loading a 3oz loads for 12ga I was wondering where can I find the load data. As I’m wanting to load slugs that weigh 1220gr hardcast which is actually.686 in diameter any help would be greatly appreciated. Also this is to be subsonic for my silenced IWI Ts12
3 ounces in 10 gauge, 2 3/4 ounces in 12 gauge. I’ve actually covered the load numerous times in the videos if you wanna go back and look. Max powder charge for 2 3/4 ounces in 12 gauge is 43 grains of lil gun and it’s moving 1100 fps and has to be fired from a 3.5” gun.
Question. Can I take a factory target shell in 12 or 20 gauge that uses 7/8 oz of #8 shot and remove the #8 shot and replace it with 7/8 oz of whatever buckshot I have and be safe?
Yep lead weight is lead weight no matter how it’s shaped
@@theshotgunscientists That is what I thought. Thanks.
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Yes it is. It’s a 1puglife shirt who is a RUclipsr I’ve been watching for 15 years.
Great videos , but is their a reason why you use The Loadall two and not Mec loaders ?
They are usually considered industry standards and very durable !
The end result is exactly the same, I can load 8 different gauges with just 1 press, it needs no adjustments, is 1/4 the cost, and I prefer their simplicity. I have used mecs before there’s nothing wrong with them I just prefer the Lee presses.
Lilgun can push 1.5oz to 2+ ounces in 12 gauge just fine... It gets a bad wrap, but it's pretty dang universal in 12 gauge.
I've tested Lil'Gun in 12 gauge with 1.5oz with 48 grains (won't say the wad) and got 1425 FPS and 11k PSI.
Like you said, its some crazy stuff. I love it.
When I bought my first pound of it I though it was gonna last months if not over a year, I thought it was only useful for 410. Now we’re going through it like crazy in all gauges.
Thank you for the video and your time! You make it easy to understand and follow.
I'm curious if it's worth it to reload ourselves compared to buying from the manufacturers?
How much was the total cost for that one shell?
If I made my own ammo, approximately how much per shell for 12ga 2¾ 00 @ 1400fps and slug @ 1600fps?
Thanks again!
It all just depends on how many pellets you want but for buckshot and birdshot the faster you push the velocity the more it spreads. Loading your own buckshot and slugs is a lot cheaper than buying factory ammo especially if you cast your own lead.
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How much Longshot would you use as a replacement for the Red Dot? Preferably 1300fps vs 1200fps.
@@victorsutpheniii3374 I’d just use the data off the bottle man is really good
So how can you tell the tapered hole in the straight hole from the outside
Hull not hole, but Winchester tapered hulls will have a tall basewad inside the hull that’s clearly visible, tapered hulls are usually smooth like no texture on the plastic. Remington gun club and game load hulls are the exception.
Hi question what powder and primers need 12gauge
You’ll have to watch the whole video I cover all of that
I’ve got a bunch of rem gun club hulls, cbo118s, win 209 primers, and only powder I can find is longshot. Any experience with loading that sort of combo for 9 pellet #00?
30 grains is plenty
@@theshotgunscientists wow that was fast! I checked the Hodgdon website but their info for longshot is minimal. Thanks for the response. New subscriber but will surely be a long time subscriber!
Have you ever loaded 2 inch 410 shotshells? Just curious because I happen to have one with a 2 inch chamber.
I haven’t but it would be easy with a roll crimp. 13.5 grains of lil gun and a 3/8 ounce load would be a nice one. Bpi stocks 2” shells but they are out. Gary caskey makes a 410 hull trimming kit that works like a dream and bpi has 2.5” hulls in stock. What gun is it? Old stevens or h&r chambered in 44 shot/44xl?
@@theshotgunscientists thanks for the information, I hadn't even thought to check bpi for 2 inch hulls. It's a newport model wn which I believe to be manufactured by crescent sometime in the early 1900s
ok man i have everything i got it from where you told me to get it from,and i have a buck shot manual 4th edition this will be my first time so bare with me, the manual shows load id.bkl10920-2484 then 12 ga. hull is fiocchi primer fio616 longshot powder then grns. 32 ,plastic wad mg42 ,overshot os12, load grns 516 ,#00np, stack, 2 x5 =10 heres my question i have a scale where i can put a metal tray on it then hit taring it clears then i load powder. is it calling for 32 grains ? then what is 516 load grns ? so i put the powder in then wad then pellets then overshot then crimp it ? this should be it for me dude? thanks just wanna make sure.once i get going i will be ok
516 grains is the payload weight. Just under 1 .25 ounces. Powder, wad, buckshot, buffer if you want it, load 30 grains if you do, overshot and crimp.
@@theshotgunscientists nah he said i didnt need any buffer and i didnt want to say anything,so for my first run im just going to make something simple bro,then i will do something different from one of your video's and i will for sure get some.ive got a hundred rounds of 9 pellets that i bought and spent a ton of money on and said the hell with that and bought the lees loader. i have 100 hulls,im not sure if i will make all of them with 10 pellets or not.its supposed to be 1450 fps which sounds good to me.thanks for your help ttyl man.
Question for the expert: I am beginning to make my own rounds, and was wondering how you would personally go about making this. I personally like its low FPS of 1150, but it is kind of expensive. Any suggestions on wad/part combos? Any answers are greatly appreciated!
Winchester S12PDX1 Defender 12 Gauge 2.75" Slug Buckshot combo (438 grains)
The 12-gauge Defender ammunition features a distinctive black hull, black oxide high-base head and 3 pellets of Grex buffered plated buckshot nested on top of a 1 oz rifled slug. The result is the ideal, tight patterning personal defense load. The slug/buckshot combination provides optimum performance at short and long ranges while compensating for aim error.
Bpi 1 ounce value slugs, 3 pellets of 00 buck. You’ll need the green short shell wad from bpi, tear off the petals, use a 12 gauge overshot card on top the wad, the slug, buckshot and fold crimp. Powder charge would be 26 grains of longshot. It’s a 1 3/8 ounce load.
@@theshotgunscientists YOU ROCK BROTHER!
I wish you were my neighbor.
Thanks man
@20:00 Don't tell the Borg.
What’s the borg? sorry.
Great video! I've been loading 12 & 20 gauge for years from #9 shot down to #4 shot, but never buck. Can you please tell me what mold you recommend? Also, do you tumble with anything in the machine with the shot, or just the lead shot? Lastly, what is your lead alloy mix? Thank you very much!
For 20 gauge a Marty’s arms .290 mold. That size will fit every gauge from 24 to 10 gauge. I’m using wheel weights. Just the lead with .730 cal round balls.
@theshotgunscientists .730" lead balls or steel balls? What tumbler do you recomnend? Thanks again!
@@artillerybuff2000 lead and harbor freight single drum is what I use. You don’t have to use the .730 round balls they just speed the process up a little.
@@theshotgunscientists I have some .750" steel ball bearings; would those work? Thank you.
@@artillerybuff2000 yeah