Pilot Falls Asleep on Solo Flight
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- Опубликовано: 24 янв 2024
- Pilot Falls Asleep on Solo Flight
Episode 4 of Air Traffic Control Stories
A Cessna pilot flying on his own from Cairns to Redcliffe in Australia fell asleep and overflew his destination by more than 110 kilometers, or 68 miles.
The pilot was doing a ferry flight in a Cessna 208 Caravan when he suddenly stopped responding to air traffic control about his planned descent into Redcliffe.
The controller suspected the pilot had become incapacitated and asked another pilot who was just departing Brisbane to intercept the Cessna and try to see what was happening.
Listen to the real conversation from the afternoon of July 2, 2020.
Read the report here: www.atsb.gov.au/media/news-it...
Air traffic control audio licensed from LiveATC.net.
Unnecessary communications and pauses were trimmed for clarity.
The positions of the aircraft may not be 100% accurate. Only involved aircraft are shown. Animations are based on air traffic control communications and data from flight tracking services.
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Hope you're enjoying the Air Traffic Control Stories series, new intense stories like this one are on the way!
I REALLY loved it!
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Love these videos 😊.
I know this would be impossible and dangerous to do, but if the pilot did a little tap with the wingtip. The other pilot would probably wake up by the jolt 😁.
Good to hear that ATC pulled the plug on that flight. He thought he could keep going, but they were having none of it. Good call, and I hope he thanked them for the "inconvenience".
yeap one of those thing the pilot would appreciate in retrospect but not realise it at the time
Agreed.
Spot on!
Are the rules different in Australia? In my country ATC can only advise. The actual final say is up to the pilot in command.
@@mikoto7693 Not rights in Australia, even in Canada ATC could not do that.
Flydoc 425's next fuel up after landing better have been on the house, with a complimentary vending machine snack
Yeah right 👍
Just bill it to the pilot of DQP.
I was thinking the same thing! That better be a free refueling.
Maybe in Aussi-land, but in the states, they’ll probably charge him extra for his landing and FBO services.
@@mebeingU2 😮💨 You're probably correct.
Excellent air traffic control.
Calm and leading him in gently.
It’s crazy how we can hear the lack of lucidity in his voice and how it comes back while descending and reactivating his mental charge due to the coming landing
Makes you wonder if medication was an issue. Either way, what a way to end a very expensive career path.
Lack of oxygen. Experienced the same on a prolonged fl100 flight without oxygen. After a few minutes at 4000 and below I was luckily able to make a good enough landing.
his change in mental state has nothing to do with the impending landing other than heading in for a landing lowered his altitude, increasing the oxygen - he was suffering from hypoxia
@@brians9508thats what we are saying… when he is high, he suffers hypoxia and you hear it in his voice by the lack of lucidity.
but when he comes down: more oxygen + more mental load = he returns to an approximative “normal” state at the end of the flight
@@gauthierpierron2081yep and clearly explains why they wanted to continue to their destination. Not thinking clearly at all
That air traffic controller did an amazing job! He and the guy following the Caravan deserves all the credit for that sleepy pilots safety.
Him thinking he was ok to carry on is no different to why some people don't turn back climbing Everest.
Yes, I am glad they insisted. The lower he go the bit better he sounded
Lack of oxygen can mess with your body/brain quite a bit, even if you have been in that situation a bunch of times and not had a problem. Staying for an extended time at 12k+ ft elevation can be tough.
"Every thing is fine" as alarms are sounding in the background. I am glad the pilot listed to ATC and landed ASAP.
I thought i head it mentioned that it was the low fuel alarm. Im guessing it wasnt a significant issue given he was going into land. Could have been a little bit more of an issue if he went 30 mins more and fell asleep again
@@Kittsuera But he said he had lots of fuel left for another hour, before they made him come down. But it goes to his mental clarity that he did not tell ATC what the alarm was. He didn't think of that. So scary.
Did he have a stroke or something ?
Right? He also withheld the nature of his issue, you know, the reason he overflew his destination by over an hour, wasnt answering atc, and had a plane following him.
These people should not be babied.
@@Osiris57At the end of the video it says he didn't have enough rest the previous night and was not using enough oxygen at 11k feet leading to mild hypoxia (lack of oxygen) and him falling asleep
FlyDoc is the real hero here i think.
A perfect gentleman.
Not hard to fall asleep under the right conditions. Boredom, environmental conditions, no external stimulus and smooth flight with autopilot on. Even 2 pilot airline crews have fallen asleep at the wheel.
I cannot imagine being bored for one minute flying in the that neck of woods. Beaches. Reefs. Islands. So much to look at.
@@anja2716 In a situation like fog or heavy clouds there's nothing to look at.
@@shaneanagramsRight. Good point. They do roll in occasionally along that coastline.
@@anja2716 at around 11:50 they are saying lights are on at the airpoint so this is sometime at night. So not much to look at.
@@monstersids I missed that. Makes sense especially if he was already fatigued in some way.
Flydoc 425 was clutch in staying with the Cessna. This could have been worse. ATC remaining vigilant, thanks for this video!
Flydoc is one of the Royal Flying Doctor Service guys - they truly are heroes. Have known them to go to amazing lengths to get patients to care.
If I were the Cessna pilot I’d want to find the FlyDoc pilot and thank him in person for his help.
You can hear him slowly getting back to full consciousness out of hypoxia. Responses getting more clear and more proactive minute by minute.
I agree. The obvious symptom of the slurred speech, sounding almost drunk made me immediately think hypoxia. This has nothing to do if the pilot got adequate sleep the previous night and more to do with the fact oxygen wasn't being used properly at that altitude. This is also why he felt he was still fine to continue flying because he was slowly becoming conscious again and not actually "tired".
But not enough to have the idea to tell ATC what that alarm sounding off was. He just said it was fine. Which is not good enough. A bet that ATC was just sweating bullets those last few minutes. He earned his pay double that day!
Yeah, people just say he fell asleep and are dissing him super hard but.. that is one of the symptoms of hypoxia
And the pilot dreamed that he had lost his pilot's license😆
🤣Doubtful. FL110 can induce mild hypoxia, and coupled with fatigue from inadequate rest can result in a pilot going to sleep. It almost happened to me a couple times, but I'm very anal about getting proper rest before flying. Given his circumstances, he probably had a long chat with whoever the aviation authority is in AU, along with a mountain of paperwork.
Why the alarm in DQP?
@@tm502010 That was his alarm clock so he'll be awake for landing.
@@paulis7319 🤣😂🤣
@@paulis7319 it was tesla autopilot mode
Not gonna lie that was intense. All credits to atc and flydoc.
Not all heroes wear capes. Some drive little planes.
Me too. I also drive my plane and fly my car.
@@sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298 "Driving" a plane is often used as a term between aviators - just some kind of self-mocking.
@@Fastvoice interesting. News to me. I'll use the term more often. Thanks!
Now THIS was an GREAT controller... Amazing "airmanship" from the ground... That dude is a hero!
Wow! I learned something about mild hypoxia today. Thanks for sharing!😊
After 3 minutes of pilot non-movement, the Piper Malibu seat would have vibrated to wake the pilot.
you have 4 of these videos so far, keep this up and you'll have a loyal watcher of every one of them keep this series going!!!!!!
Of course you can always count on the Royal Flying Doctor Service 🙏👍🇦🇺
The royal flying doctors are hero’s
Not going to get Delta Quebec Papa out of my head for months now!!
Yeah, I've already said that 40Xs.
I too am hearing myself saying Delta Quebec Papa over and over!
PuhPAAA!
That gave me a chuckle, and yes, it needs a nice little tune to go with it, and then it will really be stuck in your head. 🤣
Also, the Pappi's! Haha So cute though with their accent.
hypoxia is a scary foe, it just sneaks up on you.
It will take your breath away - it's so exciting
Indeed, I got down to a blood oxygen level of 75%, and it wasn't until someone asked me what my address was and I couldn't remember, that I even realised anything was wrong. It's very weird and definitely sneaks up on you like you say.
Flydoc is a real one, its kinda like hearing mayday when I was on a boat for a bit. Everyone comes to help no matter what the boat size or how long it takes if you are close.
It’s things like that which let me keep my faith in humanity.
Excellent person in the ATC. Calm and respectful.
Something about being in a plane always puts me in the deepest sleep. It’s so loud and cozy. Like being in a cocoon.
Yes but not when you're the one flying the goddamn thing lol
yup must concur-my greatest joy is being in the back of our king air while my son flies and i lay on the couch with up to 3 grand kids,all of us asleep like a rock...heaven
I need meds to get on a plane and not have an anxiety attack. Sleeping...no. Passed out on meds...probably. Otherwise, it's just too nerve racking. Never comfortable flying. Especially on small planes.
That ATC was amazing. And I could fall asleep listening to FlyDoc's voice.
My wife: "Where do you want to eat tonight"
Me: "Delta Quebec Pa-PAH.......uhhhhh"
Wife,where's that? You.its just by delta quebec papa darling.
Gotta love the friendly laid back way the Aussies talk to each other even when it's ATC and pilots, and still completely prefessional and efficient.
You doing some great job Lucaas by revisiting some of these older but very crucial incidents
Old incident I have already watched before, but this is the first time I learned it was not _just_ hypoxia. That's interesting.
it was hypoxia. DQP even said that the guy responded and turned to the left as he approached him. He was awake, but not all there.
Top work from the King Air pilot.
He knew to stay with the Caravan until it was on the ground just in case he had to report a crash site.
You can hear the Caravan guy slowly getting more cognitive as he descended to lower altitudes.
I hope they met later, the King Air pilot probable saved this mans life tonight.
Well there you have it. Caravans: a mence in the air as well as on the road.
@@MultiChrisjb Are you suggesting that people who tow caravans are half asleep at the wheel?
@@harveysmith100 Well they are very slow. So can't rule it out at this stage.
@@MultiChrisjb I have seen a couple towing whilst on Oxygen. It's a worry
That's why I don't fly much anymore.
You can't even take a nap without ATC and other aircraft getting all up in your business.
I miss the good ol days.
Lol
This is why we have two pilots, the chances of both of them sleeping through the autopilot disconnect chime is slim.
KISS, keep it simple. Just hang a small ball on a piece of string in front of your nose.
If the aircraft starts to decend, the ball hits your face and wakes you up.
@@rafbarkway5280We just call them napping buddies.
Skilled Co-pilots, 1st Officers are fine to have in a pinch...but a good napping buddy makes the job enjoyable.
It really is annoying when people care enough to save you from yourself.
I like these kind of video's, i still learn so much from these interactions. Fly save, Fly Boys!
Just like truck drivers, falling asleep is a major risk and very dangerous. Its almost like oxygen deprivation... not recognizing your situation until its too late.
Way to go. Now that is a flying community. Love you guys. Fly safe.
WoW! Very interesting. Great work. Thank You!❤
Crazy how a simple mistake can turn into a situation that could go either way. I was fully expecting this video to end with him going down in the middle of the Ocean but nah he just woke up, turned around, and landed. Nice and simple resolve to something that had the potential to be a whole lot worse.
please make more videos like these i love it
That was beautifully handled by ATC. 👍
Great video
Well done thank you
He sounds a little out of it. They were correct to get him to Gold Coast.
That guy was lucky! Great work of ATC and Flydoc 425 for keeping an eye on the guy.
I have never once fallen asleep while piloting an aircraft.*
😁
Same. I never flew a plane also.
This was induced by hypoxia, so a bit of a misleading title
If you're given a second chance...
And that’s when you woke up
The contróller and the beechcraft pilot done amazing Job !!
Thanks to Tower and the Royal Flying Doctors!!
(pilot moments after being woken up, asked if he can land at closest airport):
DQP... negative. I have endurance to continue to Redcliffe.
Good thing they convinced him to land at Gold Coast.
He could have fallen asleep again if he tried Redcliffe.
imagine he fell asleep again 🤣
These things used to happen on commercial aircraft. Many years ago the crew of an Air Ferry plane flying out of Manston
both fell asleep, luckily there wasn't an accident.
Wow, pretty scary. Glad the pilot eventually agreed to land when advised. Great work from everyone and special kudos to 425's pilot.
everybody, so cool , calm and polite, typical australian, love that country, played rugby with many of them back in the USA
Both ATC and Flydoc 425 are acting very professionally here and they probably saved the mans life. Good job!
Wanted to go to Redcliffe. I'm glad they made him land ASAP
I believe I would have sent the Cesena Pilot a nice thank you gift for his troubles.
What an extraordinary sequence of events. The Flydoc pilot was a saviour I salute him and hope his company recognise what he did.
Kudos to flydoc and atc!
nice video
Interesting scenario. Good outcome and another caution about the subtle and potential negative effects of hypoxia.
Great team work 🇦🇺
I think he had more than sleep deprivation. He perked up a lot as he got down into more oxygen rich altitudes.
very interesting, had me on the edge of my seat!
Just the sound of propeller alone is Like my fan at night
Thank you for this video, it was absolutely engaging and time well spent watching it!
What an annoying call sign.
puh puh
@@canadianaviator - No it's the tongue twister of Delta Quebec that is the annoying part to say repeatedly.
Quebec is annoying outside of aviation too.
I agree! I’m looking to sell my plane, but reluctant ‘cause it has a fantastic tail number 😢
@@maxvideodrome4215 - "Fantastic tail number" sounds like how you plane geeks would say a woman has a great ass! 😛
Pilot wanted to fly to Redcliffe so that he could hit snooze and get a few more zzzz’s
Awesome that he landed safely.
im glad he finally landed safely
The flight was at 11000 feet. That is only 1500 feet below the level where oxygen is required. Something do to a cold or other ailments you might need oxygen at a lower altitude. I’m guessing hypoxia might be a factor.
Not sure about Australia but you need O2 above 10,000' for more than 30 mins where I live
Major kudos to Flydoc 425. Very thankful all ended well for DQP. What a great aviation community we have!
Easy to fall asleep.
Warm, cozy cockpit, beautiful blue sky, turn up the lullaby music on the radio.
It's all good. 😴😴😴😴😴
I expect Juan Brown to report on this tomorrow or the next day. He has high praises for this channel for quick reporting from air traffic control.
This is old.
this is ancient
I kinda like that they made him land. Even though there wasn't anything wrong with him, they don't know that.
They did not make him land. Controllers have no control over the aircraft. Controllers can only make suggestions, they can't make things happen.
@@AlbertHess-xy7ky I agree, but how it sounded it did not sound like he had much of a choice, I think ATC overstepped their mandate IMO
He was not under their control. They do not control the airplane. ATC did the right thing. The pilot had some incapacitation. It ended well. @@rumbecker5085
It's interesting that once they'd established contact ATC didn't have him don his oxy immediately, and descend. Very interesting video.
ATC can not make anybody do anything.
@@AlbertHess-xy7ky 🙄
It's interesting that you are a know nothing.
"Waggling my wings" is a cute way of putting it.
Standard way of attracting a response from another aircraft.
@@AlbertHess-xy7ky I know, it's just cute.
Thank you for adding your depth. @@ElizabethT45
Can you please post more like this upload thanks
Delta Quebec Papa.
I remember when i was 1 Whiskey 4 Papa Charley.
Armchair pilot. And it was on Hippy Happy Germany. A server for FSX flight simulator, with the best bot available at the time. Testili made sure of that.
that was a fun time
Now THAT is a confident ferry pilot. ZERO flips given.
Interesting, glad it all worked out.
I hope that Cessna pilot looked up the other pilot and thanked him, bought him dinner and offered to pay for some fuel. Respect to 425 helping and staying with him until he knew he was down safe and.. respect to ATC for doing all he did and cutting the guys flight short despite the pilots desire to carry on. Good call.
Close call!
Luckily we had a good ending!
Excelente vídeo!
"Stand by one"
Icey conditions, I can't imagine that around Brisbane, I'd believe if you said his wings were melting from the heat.
Anyone got any insight into the alarm that was audible as he made his final approach? Was it a marker annunciator?
Not a marker beacon. Sounds like the autopilot disconnect aural warning. It'll sound when the autopilot is disconnected, but it's unusual to let it go on for so long, normally you'd cancel it immediately, assuming you intended to turn the autopilot off.
Right above My Area!
Delta Quebec Papa , what a tongue twister
Flying long trips solo can catch a pilot. Recalling a long distance VFR flight across parts of Canada westbound in warm, hazy conditions facing the afternoon Sun….once I realized I was dozing off I opened both side windows ( a lot of noise and wind) and landed shortly afterwards.
This has actually been happening a lot lately all around the world; this just happens to be the latest case...
No it hasn't. Go troll your disinformation elsewhere! 😂
This happened to my buddy. I landed where we were supposed to and I noticed him continue so gave her the beans and took back off I had to get ridiculously close to wake him up 😂.
My immediate thought was hypoxia and it got weird when he said "we" because I was pretty sure he was alone in the Cessna
I got down to a blood oxygen level of 75%, and it wasn't until someone asked me what my address was and I couldn't remember, that I even realised anything was wrong.
Hypoxia definitely sneaks up on you without you realising what is going on.
He should have just turned the radio and transponder off the way ATC were ordering him around.
Yikes, good job by all the supports; ATC and the plane following DQP.
Delta Quebec PAPA, is a cumbersome handle to keep repeating..glad all turned out ok.
I can tell you from experience that hypoxia can begin to take affect at much lower altitudes than published. Your overall lifestyle -stress, lack of sleep, lack of exercise/cardio, drinking habits, diet, etc., have a cumulative effect on your body's ability to withstand hypoxia. I can remember early on in my flight career flying passengers every Friday evening from Chicago to upper Wisconsin in an unpressurized Piper Navajo - at 8,000 MSL my co-pilot told me to look in the back - all the passengers were sleeping soundly. "What a wonderful flight!" they said. :)
Delta-Quebec-Papa is a fun sounding call sign, its kinda fun to say lol
Very interesting video great job
I find these control tower Incidents very Interesting, as you get to Hear what the Real Problems are, and the Corrective procedures.👍🤔
The alarm is the autopilot being disconnected is weird that it lasted that long that’s the sound the farming g 1000 makes, he probably was pressing on the controls without disconnecting the autopilot, the autopilot will disconnect if you put enough force on the controls it will probably make the alarm last longer if you do that, a press of the button will usually disconnect it immediately and only last 2 seconds
Quick question:
Will Flydoc 425 be compensated for fuel for helping the situation? If so, by whom?
No..Good hearted people
He sounds too professional to ask.
But why just his fuel, what about maintenance and overhaul costs and his professional time?
@@AlbertHess-xy7ky They would probably consider it in the perimeter of their organization. Royal Flying Doctors are a non-profit organization for transporting sick people around. It would be good form for the solo pilot to make a donation for their help though!
DQP requesting vectors to a dark hole for me to crawl into