I don't think people knew of these sub cultures at the time, it all came out of punk, I knew it as alternative, and it was all about trying new things. It was good time.
They never bought them all together this was a weekly tv music show they had few bands on every week but everything came out of punk, all these bands DC, SGC, etc were all called Tribal bands due to the music =drums Then about 1981 it started being called Goth Abbo uk decay vocalist was 1st to mention it in an interview then it was known as Goth, but at the time punks, goths, psychobillys etc all went to same gigs etc was great times.
They are one of the most animated bands I have ever watched. I have always liked to see movement on the stage. They need no special effects stage show because they are the show. I am 70, grew up with rock, and seen quite a few bands perform. They rock the stage like the MC5. Ian Ashbury reminds me of Jim Morison in his stage performance. It is a presence they both share. Bill Duffy is a phenomenal guitarist. Together with Jamie Stewart on base and Ray Mondo on drums, all three are great performers. They are a fantastic band to watch and listen to. Their music is real and original coming up through the garages and pubs. It is unlike the canned TV competitions that only look at the voice. Some of the best rock has been from vocalists who didn't necessarily have the best voices. Anyway, the Cult is a great band.
This is where it all began for The Cult....Billy's Gretsch has since never sounded this good....& the young lan Astbury so cool & powerful....Jamie on Bass & the late Nigel Preston on drums...this was the real deal...love to you all ❤.
Yes, you are correct, but this performance on 'The Tube' is what put the group ('The Cult') on the map to main stream success...everything before for lan & Billy was just mediocre... Beggars Banquet never looked back after this period 👌.
Saw them at the Telegraph in Belfast on the new tour, still got it, and it was great to see young teens singing the lyrics of the songs, restored my faith.
I first saw this a few months ago. Absolutely f*cking brilliant ! Yeah, I Concur with others, SDC, DEATH CULT, Dreamtime and Love, were raw and The Cult at their best. I feel sorry for the teenagers and young people of today. Back in '84 we had The Cult, Sisters, The Smiths, The Bunnymen, and so on. Music overall was far more eclectic I think. But it could possibly be me being an old fart ! !! I'm 49 yer know ! 💀
Preach. Too true. I’ve brought my son up on this and other ‘proper’ music. Ian and The Cult were incredibly underrated. They were and are ahead of their time. 49 isn’t old!
I'd argue that bands today that are similar to and as good as early Cult still exist, you might just need to put in more effort nowadays than in the past because (contradicting your other point) there is a vast amount of eclectic music available now and there's so many channels to seek out new music (good or bad thing).
I agree, SteamMachine the problem nowadays is you don't have record companies pushing them to allow the best one's to break from the underground to the mainstream so a lot of people now have narrower music tastes. but Musicians have much greater musical freedom now its just sad a lot wont get heard or pushed as would of been the case in the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's & early 2000's.
You can see why Billy Duffy liked Nigel Preston’s drumming: right on point. Jamie Stewart looking a lot like Billy Drago laying down simple but effective bass lines and Astbury flying all over the place. The Cult were something else during this time. England had some great groups coming through the 80’s.
Some trivia: The group changed their name from "Death Cult" to "The Cult" just minutes before this live performance on UK TV's Channel 4 series The Tube.
You seriously need to listen to 'The Black Sheep Album' self titled (The Cult)....absolutely captures the mood of all the band at that time...such a underrated & overlooked album by them...
@@redchemicalsltd2324 I probably will but the fans have ranked it as their 4th worst album and say that its very grunge influenced with a weak homestretch of the album.
Actually, it began even before this. The Cult formed in 1983 and released music as "Death Cult". Ian had been doing it since 1981 with his former band, The Southern Death Cult.
totally agree. they had their biggest commercial hit but sold it all out for that. still an amazing band and able to totally kick and audience's collective @ss. that said, this type and the sounds/compositions on "Love" are infinitely more interesting.
FLOWER IN THE DESERT best cult vocals ever ...he never got this good live ...ive never seen them live but ..on you tube he never captivated me like flower in the desert right here .....he reminds me of The Dodger from oliver twist ..cmon cmon cmon
Ah, "The Cult" before they went all "stadium rock" and anthemic. Best three tracks off on of their earlier albums. The early stuff has a different vibe which I like lyrically.
Been one of my favorite songs for a long time And they come And they come See them prancing They come neighing, they come A horse nation See them prancin', they neighing come See them prancin' They come neighing and they neighing come The whole world is coming From the four directions Scream and shout See them prancing They come neighing and they come A horse nation See them prancing, they neighing came See them prancing Proudly they came The whole world is coming From the four directions And I scream and shout The whole world is coming From the four directions Scream and shout
From the 4 tracks on the 1st Death Cult 12" EP I would say Horse Nation is the crappest. I love Ghost Dance, Christians and well Brothers Grimm and Horse Nation on a par, of course HN was a end of set number to rouse the rabble but I preferred GD myself and Christians, am I repeating myself here? LOL
The cult forever isto é o que enfim a viver 42 anos ouvindo está banda Ian o único capaz de reproduzir no palco o que Jim Morissette e the Doors representaram amor eterno
remember seeing this live on tv / friday teatime / dreamtime is an album i still go to when im feeling nostalgic / nigel preston sadly gone / this is better than all the modern crap thats been viewed millions of times / sdc & death cult & early cult - stunning stuff
@@Pwwh0711 Out of interest, Phil, when / where did he say this? He's right, of course, but I never knew that he "admitted" it! Perhaps with increasing age and distance Ian has become able to appreciate just how original and vital this line-up was - and still is!
@@Albrecht777 search Nigel Preston Drummer on here, and you'll see an interview from 1996, one of the first things he says. No one played like Nigel and it's never been the same since essentially.
Nigel was my brother. Its so lovely to read how highly thought of he was . He died to young under terrible circumstances but will always be with me .I'm so proud of him
Ian could move. You better as a lead singer. His vocals actually sounded like they got stronger in their more commercial albums. Although he sounded pretty strong here. Some people have talent.
I love this era of the Cult so much! Sometimes I will listen to Love and Electric, but Dreamtime is my absolute favorite. I generally will go back and listen to Ghost Dance under the "Death Cult" name before listening to anything after Dreamtime.
Ian had so much energy in his younger days and awsome live when he had a good drink lol. He fell over on stage at finsbury park and he was so pissed i thought the gig would end .
Interesting, after watching some earlier pre-Billy Duffy vids, I think his guitar style really gave some kind of stability to this band and for Ian Astbury to work over top of ... a more minimalistic yet solid guitar sound and backing
always one of my faves by these saw them few times in London(brst when they were Death Cult) shame the last thing they did that was any good was the Love album before they wanted to be Led Zep etc
I think Dreamtime was made to present the band's aesthetic to the general public, because its bases are purely gothic, a characteristic that Cult never abandoned, except in Electric, which was their adherence to hard rock that they flirted with in Love. The only ambition is in Spiritwalker, which has a pop chorus and riffs that infiltrate the subconscious. Try listening to Cult's first four albums, respectively, and you'll see how they slowly and consciously walked to the ultimate perfection, which is Sonic Temple.
They didn't lose it after Love. They changed their direction/style/sound and released amazing albums over the years. Some better than others of course.
Dan Maler their not as good as they were , but people are lost and don't understand music styles. Look at Zeppelin they played blues, rock , folky , acoustical and etc , so shut up
You can see there was such a mix of subcultures in the audience, punk, new wave, goth. I love how this band brought them all together!
Nobody saw that, England that's it
Agree. Music is Universal.
@@erickgregoryful boomer
I don't think people knew of these sub cultures at the time, it all came out of punk, I knew it as alternative, and it was all about trying new things. It was good time.
They never bought them all together this was a weekly tv music show they had few bands on every week but everything came out of punk, all these bands DC, SGC, etc were all called Tribal bands due to the music =drums Then about 1981 it started being called Goth Abbo uk decay vocalist was 1st to mention it in an interview then it was known as Goth, but at the time punks, goths, psychobillys etc all went to same gigs etc was great times.
One thing I love about the band is the ability to reinvent themselves and yet maintain a loyal fanbase. Dreamtime was a blinding album.
They are one of the most animated bands I have ever watched. I have always liked to see movement on the stage. They need no special effects stage show because they are the show. I am 70, grew up with rock, and seen quite a few bands perform. They rock the stage like the MC5. Ian Ashbury reminds me of Jim Morison in his stage performance. It is a presence they both share. Bill Duffy is a phenomenal guitarist. Together with Jamie Stewart on base and Ray Mondo on drums, all three are great performers. They are a fantastic band to watch and listen to. Their music is real and original coming up through the garages and pubs. It is unlike the canned TV competitions that only look at the voice. Some of the best rock has been from vocalists who didn't necessarily have the best voices. Anyway, the Cult is a great band.
R.I.P Nigel Preston. What a great drummer.
Sad!!!!!!
I agree he was a great drummer.
He was great on drums! .Another sad casualty of Heroin. What an evil and insidious drug!
I THINK EXACTLY THE SAME. RIP
Absolutely
This is where it all began for The Cult....Billy's Gretsch has since never sounded this good....& the young lan Astbury so cool & powerful....Jamie on Bass & the late Nigel Preston on drums...this was the real deal...love to you all ❤.
No. It all began with Southern Death Cult, then Ian & Billy formed The Death Cult.
Yes, you are correct, but this performance on 'The Tube' is what put the group ('The Cult') on the map to main stream success...everything before for lan & Billy was just mediocre... Beggars Banquet never looked back after this period 👌.
Saw them at the Telegraph in Belfast on the new tour, still got it, and it was great to see young teens singing the lyrics of the songs, restored my faith.
I first saw this a few months ago. Absolutely f*cking brilliant ! Yeah, I Concur with others, SDC, DEATH CULT, Dreamtime and Love, were raw and The Cult at their best. I feel sorry for the teenagers and young people of today. Back in '84 we had The Cult, Sisters, The Smiths, The Bunnymen, and so on. Music overall was far more eclectic I think. But it could possibly be me being an old fart ! !! I'm 49 yer know ! 💀
was right there
production on Dreamtime was crap unfortunately. Mixed to please more teenyboppers.
Preach. Too true. I’ve brought my son up on this and other ‘proper’ music. Ian and The Cult were incredibly underrated. They were and are ahead of their time. 49 isn’t old!
I'd argue that bands today that are similar to and as good as early Cult still exist, you might just need to put in more effort nowadays than in the past because (contradicting your other point) there is a vast amount of eclectic music available now and there's so many channels to seek out new music (good or bad thing).
I agree, SteamMachine the problem nowadays is you don't have record companies pushing them to allow the best one's to break from the underground to the mainstream so a lot of people now have narrower music tastes. but Musicians have much greater musical freedom now its just sad a lot wont get heard or pushed as would of been the case in the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's & early 2000's.
Also a lot of punks and goths were into this band .. I know.. I was there..
I am still there.....
I'm 50, still living in the 80s..
Correct ,so was I
Spiritwalker was a dance floor favorite
You can see why Billy Duffy liked Nigel Preston’s drumming: right on point. Jamie Stewart looking a lot like Billy Drago laying down simple but effective bass lines and Astbury flying all over the place. The Cult were something else during this time. England had some great groups coming through the 80’s.
England had the best bands of the 80’s hands down
Some trivia: The group changed their name from "Death Cult" to "The Cult" just minutes before this live performance on UK TV's Channel 4 series The Tube.
Dreamtime is the only cult album that i still listen to......i just love its unique, rare type of music...
The "Love" album had a very similar sound.
@@Danimal77 those 2 are my favorites, and the last album was my 3rd fav
You seriously need to listen to 'The Black Sheep Album' self titled (The Cult)....absolutely captures the mood of all the band at that time...such a underrated & overlooked album by them...
@@redchemicalsltd2324 I probably will but the fans have ranked it as their 4th worst album and say that its very grunge influenced with a weak homestretch of the album.
DEFINITELY one of the best live acts in history!
A unique band and a unique sound and voice. They were my switch to more heavy music. I still listen to their earlier albums. So good!
I love his make up and his outfit. He can really dance and sing too! One of my favourite songs by the cult.
This brings back memories I was in the audience somewhere at the back
Great track. So underrated. Got the cassette tape still. Great guitar.
There are 2 tracks here. Which one are you referring to?
frankly there are 3 tracks
Still have Dreamtime cassette with live at Lyceum. Awesome. One for the ages
@@Danimal77 They are all great, but Spiritwalker.
I was there - in awe.
All time favorite band. Live at the Lyceum is mind blowing. Love the new stuff too.
Preston's drumming is immense in that live performance - no showboating just pure intensity & hard work...a massive loss to the band.
This is where it all began......thank you Ian Astbury!!!!!
Actually, it began even before this. The Cult formed in 1983 and released music as "Death Cult". Ian had been doing it since 1981 with his former band, The Southern Death Cult.
This is the 80's I'm talkin' about.
Word
Ian's makeup and dance reminds me of the Ojibwe rituals I attended in northern Minnesota when I was a kid. So cool.
They should have stay to that unique style of music Beautiful
and dont try to sound like an american hard rock band
In every way Sonic Temple was a masterpiece. Hard rock or not.
Blame Rick Rubin
totally agree. they had their biggest commercial hit but sold it all out for that. still an amazing band and able to totally kick and audience's collective @ss. that said, this type and the sounds/compositions on "Love" are infinitely more interesting.
Looking forward to the Death Cult 8323 tour this November, can’t believe it’s 40 years ago since first seeing them, still love it all.
Astbury shines!
I remember. I was there, and I remember. a transition point for reality, marked by this weird band. spirit-walker indeed
You were in that room?
So many great bands of that time cult, Balam, new model army, play dead, Chatshow, sisters, PIL..
Ian and Billy what a formidable duo 💯
This was what made me get into them.
I miss Jamie.
FLOWER IN THE DESERT best cult vocals ever ...he never got this good live ...ive never seen them live but ..on you tube he never captivated me like flower in the desert right here .....he reminds me of The Dodger from oliver twist ..cmon cmon cmon
7:27 Guy in the tartan shirt on someone's shoulders lol! I've destroyed the replay button
😂
Can't replace these guys
Man i was 15 and started shoplifting that month. Discovered them the next year. Astbury is a real singer.
Ah, "The Cult" before they went all "stadium rock" and anthemic. Best three tracks off on of their earlier albums. The early stuff has a different vibe which I like lyrically.
My favorite early Cult is "Moya"
Horse Nation! Alone this is worth the price of admission!
Just love and the native American look
THE TIMES WERE GREAT AND THE MUSIC ANDTHE DEATH CULT
'Ian; What can I sat, he's the coolest"
I think i'm a bit autistic, I tried to make sense of your post for maybe 10 seconds before the light turned on.
@@iainmcmullan6049
The light's still out here; could you turn it on please?
The Cult!!! Yessss Native sound
Been one of my favorite songs for a long time
And they come
And they come
See them prancing
They come neighing, they come
A horse nation
See them prancin', they neighing come
See them prancin'
They come neighing and they neighing come
The whole world is coming
From the four directions
Scream and shout
See them prancing
They come neighing and they come
A horse nation
See them prancing, they neighing came
See them prancing
Proudly they came
The whole world is coming
From the four directions
And I scream and shout
The whole world is coming
From the four directions
Scream and shout
From the 4 tracks on the 1st Death Cult 12" EP I would say Horse Nation is the crappest. I love Ghost Dance, Christians and well Brothers Grimm and Horse Nation on a par, of course HN was a end of set number to rouse the rabble but I preferred GD myself and Christians, am I repeating myself here? LOL
Astbury is so awesome here
Brings back such happy memories - thank you for posting.
nigels drumming is insane he's the best
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
remember watching this live on tv..great times.
The cult forever isto é o que enfim a viver 42 anos ouvindo está banda Ian o único capaz de reproduzir no palco o que Jim Morissette e the Doors representaram amor eterno
Take me back to the 80s, I wanna Spirit Walk with the mohawk guy in the crowd.. 💃
Billy Duffy was also the guitarist for Theater of Hate.
I love Ian astbury he was so ahead of his time
Awesome stuff! lubs Ian and Billy
remember seeing this live on tv / friday teatime / dreamtime is an album i still go to when im feeling nostalgic / nigel preston sadly gone / this is better than all the modern crap thats been viewed millions of times / sdc & death cult & early cult - stunning stuff
saw them at the start of the Death Cult recent tour in Belfast at the Telegraph, amazing.
People who like them when they were SDC seem to hate them as The Cult.
Both gave great songs
The Cult were a wannabe poodle rock band in comparison. The boundaries of post punk and heavy metal were becoming blurred by 1985/6.
Southern Death Cult was NOT an early version of The Cult.... Only Astbury was involved with SDC.
I be the mohican, the good old days..any one else from Stockton remember been there,peppermint lot?
Soooooooo Gooooood...
Also the best live set I've seen in my humble indie days ...always will remember these days ....Friday tea time too !!!!!!!!!!!
6:48 Horsenation, 'see them prancing' , i'd dive straight there, the b sides were where it was really at in the early 80's
Nigel Preston, best drummer band had.
Astbury says this line-up is the real Cult!
@@Pwwh0711 Out of interest, Phil, when / where did he say this? He's right, of course, but I never knew that he "admitted" it! Perhaps with increasing age and distance Ian has become able to appreciate just how original and vital this line-up was - and still is!
@@Albrecht777 search Nigel Preston Drummer on here, and you'll see an interview from 1996, one of the first things he says. No one played like Nigel and it's never been the same since essentially.
Nigel was my brother. Its so lovely to read how highly thought of he was . He died to young under terrible circumstances but will always be with me .I'm so proud of him
Your bother was incredible ❤
I was in the audience -
if I'd known they were going to go all cock rock,I wouldn't have bothered.
Saw Southern Death Cult and Death Cult too
Rock gótico de primeira
The best Cult era here…
Ian could move. You better as a lead singer. His vocals actually sounded like they got stronger in their more commercial albums. Although he sounded pretty strong here. Some people have talent.
shit ...this is the most powerful vocals ive ever heard Ian do ...wweooowwa....wweooowaah
Awesome Affect 5 Stars Desert Sands Flower Intensely Colourful.
I saw them play Montreal at the original Club Soda for their first record. Maybe 20 people there. They were my favorite band at the time
yeah Nigel!!
Always Great!
The best band of the world 🌏
Spiritwalkers que somos...lovers The cult
God what a voice!!!
I love this era of the Cult so much! Sometimes I will listen to Love and Electric, but Dreamtime is my absolute favorite. I generally will go back and listen to Ghost Dance under the "Death Cult" name before listening to anything after Dreamtime.
Brilliant 🤩
Ian had so much energy in his younger days and awsome live when he had a good drink lol. He fell over on stage at finsbury park and he was so pissed i thought the gig would end .
Interesting, after watching some earlier pre-Billy Duffy vids, I think his guitar style really gave some kind of stability to this band and for Ian Astbury to work over top of ... a more minimalistic yet solid guitar sound and backing
I have this with 83rd Dream in the middle and Christians as the last song.
Get in touch if you want to share
TravisBickle1963 . Will upload at some point. Cheers.
TravisBickle1963 Gods Zoo was also played.
so good
They were soooo good then.
I can't believe this is the cult! So different. Love it
Sonido Único!!
Brutal!!!! 🙏🙏💋💋🇪🇦💥💥🌟😍🔥🔥
always one of my faves by these saw them few times in London(brst when they were Death Cult) shame the last thing they did that was any good was the Love album before they wanted to be Led Zep etc
Offensive that they put all those credits over them at the end. This is priceless footage. :-(
Awesome.
Just saw em Dallas ,30 anniversary sonic temple , yes they played spiritwalker as great as ever heard it
Duffy on point 🤘
"He Wears a Red Coat," a name given him during Potiac's War.
Grande El Culto ❤
Canadian National Anthem for 1984!
Ian add Duffy were god's gift even they didn't know it back then
Billy Duffy looks so funny with black slicked back hair. Very unusual to see him not bleached blond.
hermoso genio y voz te amo
Remember real artisits! I miss them.
Arthritis?
@@jaygill5582 Painful I hear...
SDC, DC, Dreamtime, Love tour 85 loved it. Electric - shite
I would say Electric too was good and after that shite.
It's called progress. Only crap bands like the Stones pump out the same old shit time after time.
So great!
i want to see the whole show !!!!
Amazing!
I think Dreamtime was made to present the band's aesthetic to the general public, because its bases are purely gothic, a characteristic that Cult never abandoned, except in Electric, which was their adherence to hard rock that they flirted with in Love. The only ambition is in Spiritwalker, which has a pop chorus and riffs that infiltrate the subconscious. Try listening to Cult's first four albums, respectively, and you'll see how they slowly and consciously walked to the ultimate perfection, which is Sonic Temple.
You can hear the roots of what was to come. Great music in its own right though.
Billy couldn't take his eye off his fretting hand at that stage.....
1984... a good year
In certain quarters, sure but there was also Sade and George flipping Michael.
Just cannot be eclipsed
One year later, Billy Duffy discovered a distortion pedal and a bottle of peroxide. Many old fans left, but many new fans were gained.
loved them early on so exciting then they lost me as a fan when love came out
Love was a great album they lost it after that though
They didn't lose it after Love. They changed their direction/style/sound and released amazing albums over the years. Some better than others of course.
Bands need to evolve , that seen wouldnt last long and knew they would lose some fans but gane many more . Sonic temple was a good album
Dan Maler their not as good as they were , but people are lost and don't understand music styles. Look at Zeppelin they played blues, rock , folky , acoustical and etc , so shut up
que alucinante
memories
RAW POWER !!