@UC5LwIRaftoq8HzIX79NDJEw if that’s the case then butler made Wiggins worst in there first season together in 2017-2018 in the 2016-2017 season Wiggins averaged 23 and in 2017-2018 averaged 17 and his efficiency got worse that’s what happens when you go to a number. One option to a 3rd option
the lowly Pistons?! those “Going to Work” era Pistons teams were great. The out hustled and out played that Lakers team big time. Unselfish team that was great to watch
@@T3noir Still a bad way to describe them. They were one win away from winning back-to-back titles. Or another way of putting it, they were one draft pick away: they drafted such dead weight in Darko that if they got Wade, Melo, or Bosh instead, they probably squeak in one more win in the 2005 Finals. In one of the three most loaded drafts, they had the #2 overall pick and completely whiffed. Most likely, a decent player would've made the 04 squad better.
@Splashout Well It was a Good Trade for the wolves, He helped then make the Playoffs since 2004 and broke their drought but He was only there for only 1 and a half season
Carmelo Anthony didn’t win the trade because all people remember him for in NYC is a ball hog who miraculously made the playoffs a few years and forced the Knicks not to resign Jeremy Lin.
Yeah melo just wanted the money and not rings he definitely would've got a ring or two if he went to a contending team at the time, or let Lin run the plays. Linsanity + Melo would've been dangerous 🔥🔥🔥
Yeah a ballhog who led the Knicks to the 2nd seed and was Top 3 in MVP voting go away clown and also Lin is a Scrub who’s not even in the league and was overhyped
@@Kobe-qk4fe you and the guy above you are absolute clowns if you think Jeremy Lin is a scrub because he’s not in the league anymore, and the point in the original comment was to say if Melo could have worked with Lin as he was at the time they played together then they would have been fucking dangerous. Jeremy Lin during Linsanity was a household name because of how good he was playing. Actual casuals if you think he’s a scrub.
@@arrownoir and @kobe Y'all melo fanboy just can't accept reality. His move to knicks was a (minor) L let's be real. And abt that lin situation, it's 100% melo's fault. His ego couldn't handle it. The only argument y'all have is lin was not better than melo, which is true. But doesn't change the fact that melo looks bad in that situation. But ya know what? You do you. Be a stan to melo, ride him
Thank god he was there in LA so birdman could pay for his stomach to get pumped . We could of lost him like Kobe.when he got that ring he gave up his ring piece .
@Caleb Douglas. I think he has has more then just a second chance. He had 6 different chances LOL, Orlando, Charlotte, Huston, lakers 2011, Atlanta Washington
Melo forced the trade plus lose lots of assets that could help him and Stoudamire with the Knicks and ruined Jeremy Lin's career because his ego wanted the spotlight to himself
Man the Dwight Howard saga really backfired on him lol!!! They way he did Orlando wrong, it served him right he got treated badly by the Lakers and media
Yeah I've been a lifelong Lakers fan with Kobe being my favorite player of all time and I blame that split more on Kobe's ego and proving he could do it on his own more than anything on Shaq's side. I'm glad they made up and publicly showed each other love and respect before Kobe's passing.
Pretty sure that demanding a trade is forcing themselves off a team. Shaq and Kobe were beefing and Shaq wanted out of LA if he didn’t get the same pay raise Kobe did.
@@SuperMisteryMan01 The "younger guy" issue appears to have been WHY the Lakers decided to keep Kobe instead of Shaq - only to have Shaq win Ring #4 about *5 years sooner* than Kobe. Questionable decision there, though some folks would say that it was "damned if we do, damned if we don't" no matter which way the Lakers had decided.
You know what... I feel that to a certain extent. But looking at it now, yes he seems to be a terrible leader by what the media shows us, but can we really trust media espn etc.. after all the narratives they create they’re such bad influences lol. The real media reports are the ones who use to play ball and RUclipsrs who actually do research. Just throwing that all out there.
"LAKERS LOST TO THE THE LOWLY PISTONS?" Go check Detroit out they were dominant for 8 year period. Kobe was terrible vs Detroit due to Tayshaun Prince locking him up. And Kobe forced Shaq out.
@@mikegillette3021 In hindsight it made sense to keep Kobe, but Shaq was definitely the better player whilst they were together, he did have 3 fmvps even when Kobe was on the team.
My uncle said that the Vince Carter thing absolutely hurt us in the long run cause Vince decided to not give it a go with Chris bosh who was blooming into a star and it’s a huge regret to this day
What's weird is Vince still defends his side to this day. Yes management sucked at the time, but just say that publicly so you don't have to dog it. It's like he was a silent martyr, willing to take the heat from the fans while covering for the true incompetance of the management. I didn't like the way he went about it. Pouting, silent treatment, awkward media sessions, passive aggression. And we got ZERO back for him. Awful. Set us back a decade.
You should hate kawserial killer even more. He didn’t want to go there, even though he won you guys a gifted ring, he basically said your city of a pile of Flaming garbage and got out of there the second he could
At the end of the day, the NBA is a business. An organization would say one thing to a player, then do the exact opposite. So players will do everything to protect their marketing value in front of sponsors. It's just the environment the players are put into that causes them to act that way.
Definitely respect LeBron more after seeing this video. He was in a pretty bad spot his first time in Cleveland, but he waited till he was eligible for free agency and did it the right way. Much respect.
LeBron is a bum. Jumps from team to team the moment a little adversity occurs. He’ll abandon ship and go to greener pastures the moment he sees even the slightest chance to win it all elsewhere. He’s a front runner who doesn’t deserve half the respect he gets.
@@tempest13yearsago22 yet it never happened, the difference is clear dude. In this video, players were all traded. bulls backed out and he was in the lakers ever since.
That was your teams fault tho they were forcing em to get back om the floor when he wasn't ready not only that but teammates were talking smack about him behind his back why would he wanna be there. The spurs messed that up
1 out 8 specialist on the injury agreed on kawhi camp. Aka the specialist that was under their books. Lol. Even skip challenge kawhi camp to sue for defamation if what he said was false. But pussy out on suing him because skip will bring out the other 7 doctors.
@@hellothere-us7iw Imagine trying to use Skip Bayless as a credible source. Skip also said he looked at Kawhi’s MRI, which if true, is a blatant violation of doctor-patient confidentiality, unless he was lying.
@@Doatello1991 hahaha good joke laughing my ass off. The fact they went pussy when he dared them to sue him, which means skip said is true. Only 1 out of 8 specialist agree with kawhi camp claims. Also spurs have access to those results since kawhi was under contract with them.
I don’t think this is much of a problem. NBA teams have already shown numerous times that they’re not loyal to they’re players so if the players wanna force a trade that should be fine
Dwight Howard did what so many former stars refuse to do. He finally accepted he couldn't be a star anymore and reinvented his game to be a role player.
Hey Andy, if you have Wilt Chamberlain, what about Kareem Abdul-Jabbar? Just like Wilt, he forced the Milwaukee Bucks to trade him to LA. This is way bigger than Chris Webber for sure. Speaking of wanting to trade to a team for more more money, what about Alonzo Mourning's trade to the Miami Heat from Hornets? Heck, I'll even take Shawn Kemp's trade from the Sonics to the Cavs for that reason. Way bigger deal than Webber.
*Kyrie’s trade just exposed how he isn’t much of a leader, all. Something we all knew . But something he wanted to prove to himself, the fans, Cleveland’s organization and most of all LeBron. Bad move, cause all it did was further validate the argument that he’s not leader . Especially as if late*
@@trvspvrk move on?? This comment applies to what's currently going on too bro😂😂😂. He's damn near the 3rd option for Brooklyn. It's not bad to not be a leader bro, all you gotta do is play your role. Look at Wade when LeBron was his teammate, Klay all these years, Pippen when MJ was his teammate, PG when he was Kawhi and Westbrook's teammate. I can keep going on but you get the gist of it. A ton of HOF players were all-time greats but didn't have to make themselves a 1st option💯.
There is a huge difference when it comes to management. Harden got everything he wanted and got help from other all stars during his time in Houston. Vince got no help and all Toronto management cared of about was ticket sales. Win or lose, Vince was selling out games. And everyone knows about Vince “throwing games” but management wanted VC out and made him unhappy on purpose because they wanted bosh to be the guy. They ignored his GM suggestion to hire a rookie manager in Babcock who was easily the worst GM in franchise history. They took away his moms parking spot. They ignore any suggestions for getting better players. Even the day before his trade, he asked the Raptors not to trade him but Rob Babcock did anyway.
How many years did Barkely have on his contract? Barkley has been scathing Simmons. Not sure why, seems like he did the same thing, maybe just had less years left on his contract.
@Rolling With Moore look at this stats, he’s scoring 12,3 (which are minimum starter stats) he has a 365 field goal percentage (which isn’t very good tbh) he’s playing literally no Defence. watch his clips! 👍🏽 hopefully he’s going to get better with the nets
The Shaq trade had some additional nuances. The first was Kobe's free agency - he was considering signing with either the Bulls, Knicks, Nuggets or even the Clippers of all teams (Jerry West, while being a GM of the Memphis Grizzlies, told Kobe to not play for Donald Sterling). However it was all a ruse since Kobe wanted to make sure that Shaq will be gone. Also, the Lakers were looking to find a suitable trade partner for Shaq. Dallas were interested, but Mark Cuban rejected any trade packages involving Dirk Nowitzki. Shaq was also showing interest in returning to Orlando to play with Tracy McGrady, but that also fell through when TMac was traded to Houston. In the end the Lakers settled on the deal from Miami involving Caron Butler, Lamar Odom, Brian Grant, and a 2006 1st round pick.
Notice how the Lakers are on the other end of a lot of these trades The Lakers always seem to take advantage of these situations And that's probably the reason why they have So many championships
@@YeeSoest well if you actually look at the Lakers history and you look at all of their best players a lot of them came from trades outside of Elgin Baylor and Jerry West every single Hall of famer has come through a trade or free agency signing Wilt a trade Kareem a trade Magic a trade James worthy a trade Shaq free agency Kobe a trade Pau gasol a trade LeBron free agency Anthony Davis a trade
@@patrickcarrillo714 sure, i agree. They also build the right circumstances and coaching staffs, Players like to go there (instead of say Boston or Chicago), Teams seem to like their assets in these trades...it's not just their "fault" ;)
The most important business decision in NBA history was when the Minneapolis Lakers decided they were better off in LA. It completely changed the competitive balance out West and they were able to get other teams' stars for pennies on the dollar. And the video doesn't even mention LA's two greatest heists: Kareem and Kobe.
For 99% of these players who give up on their own team and quiet-quit their way out of town it goes nowhere and the basketball gods make sure that they win nothing in the new city - until Kawhi happened - so look forward for another 25 years of this.
Well, these trade requests worked out for Anthony Davis, Kawhi Leonard, Shaquille O'Neal, and Wilt Chamberlain. They all won championships after being traded.
@@foofiiter Wilt was also a champ winning the 1967 Nba Finals before getting traded to the Lakers in the 1968 offseason. Only AD from your list hadn’t won a championship yet and never won finals MVP like the other 3.
No. The player deserves power because when they put their all in a franchise and give them the best years of their career when the franchise is done with u they will trade u where they want u to go
It is a problem but if teams are smart and keep good relationships with players they can avoid big spectacles and get max value for players. See OKC and the Paul George trade to LAC.
I don’t understand why a player has to stay in a situation where he isn’t happy or it isn’t working out I say the players do what’s best for them just like the organization is going to do what’s best for them
Dwight though the Lakers would be his little pond like Orlando was. There was a Black Mamba waiting there, who wanted someone who would take Gasol's duties - not someone who thought Kobe would be his "yes man". Dwight's misjudgement of the situation cost the Lakers several years of prosperity. it is wonderful to see how the Lakers gave him another chance.
In the 2018 playoffs, the Celtics had an amazing run (they were one game away from making the finals) despite the fact that Kyrie was out for the entire playoffs with an injury. They showed that they didn't need him to win, and actually seemed to be playing better without him.
@@bound210 They could surround them with defenders. They had good ones, Muggsy, Antonio Davis, Charles Oakley. They could have done it. I agree with Uz Khan
James Harden definitely should've been this list, I don't know why AndyHoops ignores it. - Skipped training camp to publicly party IN THE MIDDLE OF A FUCKING PANDEMIC - Had no communication with his coaches/front office whilst skipping training camp - Was completely out of shape after finally showing up on the training camp. - Publicly throwed his teammates under the bus & disrespected them on his way out the door.
@@IDK-0402 - I agree. Plus it’s not ALL their fault. They’ve had people falling over themselves to kiss up to them from at least 15 years old. So you don’t exactly have to completely grow up when you’re treated like some kind of prince your whole life.
I think it gets left out too often that Kyrie felt he was offered in deals by the cavs so his feeling was “they don’t want me here” it’s part of the story that gets left out
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James Harden definitely should've been included in this list.
yeh
He literally did the exact same thing Vince did yet somehow Andy thinks what Vince did was worse. Makes no sense
My guess is that the only reason he didn’t include Harden was since it’s so recent and fresh in everyone’s minds still.
@@RayJovjov Harden almost did all the things in Houston beside championship while vince carter did not.
@@RayJovjov it was though, Vince chatter was also more famous then harden considering how much he changed the game
If kyre was upset imagine how Kevin love felt
Difference is that Kyrie was better in Cleveland than Love in Cleveland
Love wasn’t good enough tbh
@UC5LwIRaftoq8HzIX79NDJEw if that’s the case then butler made Wiggins worst in there first season together in 2017-2018 in the 2016-2017 season Wiggins averaged 23 and in 2017-2018 averaged 17 and his efficiency got worse that’s what happens when you go to a number. One option to a 3rd option
@UC5LwIRaftoq8HzIX79NDJEw and also Kevin love defensive got exposed
Love doesn’t have half the ego Kyrie has
I would say the nuggets won the melo trade because one of those first round picks that the nuggets got turned into Jamal Murray
Agreed because the knicks had 1 good season
@@h4rshturtle456 bought allot of tickets but like a first round exit
I cannot let the sentence "Get me outta her" go by without linking it to the D-Wade T-Mobile commercial in 2010. LOL.
😂😂😂
lmao that was gold!
Bledsoe did it in real life
the lowly Pistons?! those “Going to Work” era Pistons teams were great. The out hustled and out played that Lakers team big time. Unselfish team that was great to watch
By lowly he meant they weren’t championship favorites
@@T3noir Still a bad way to describe them. They were one win away from winning back-to-back titles. Or another way of putting it, they were one draft pick away: they drafted such dead weight in Darko that if they got Wade, Melo, or Bosh instead, they probably squeak in one more win in the 2005 Finals. In one of the three most loaded drafts, they had the #2 overall pick and completely whiffed. Most likely, a decent player would've made the 04 squad better.
I’m kinda nervous Towns will do this if the Wolves don’t improve
He should tbh they are going nowhere
Nobody will blame him if he does
Yeah I wouldn’t blame him, he was loyal to us for 6 years and we’ve barely gotten better
He is going to bring d lo with him and d book
@Splashout Well It was a Good Trade for the wolves, He helped then make the Playoffs since 2004 and broke their drought but He was only there for only 1 and a half season
That Dwight-Stan interview still gives me the cringes
The second hand embarrassment is severe when watching that interview
I think it certified Dwight as a fake clown
Indeed😳
@@wavvy87oww no doubt. He's a man-child.
You ain't lying
Dwight had no idea...Stan bounced quick
Carmelo Anthony didn’t win the trade because all people remember him for in NYC is a ball hog who miraculously made the playoffs a few years and forced the Knicks not to resign Jeremy Lin.
Yeah melo just wanted the money and not rings he definitely would've got a ring or two if he went to a contending team at the time, or let Lin run the plays. Linsanity + Melo would've been dangerous 🔥🔥🔥
Lin is a scrub.
Yeah a ballhog who led the Knicks to the 2nd seed and was Top 3 in MVP voting go away clown and also Lin is a Scrub who’s not even in the league and was overhyped
@@Kobe-qk4fe you and the guy above you are absolute clowns if you think Jeremy Lin is a scrub because he’s not in the league anymore, and the point in the original comment was to say if Melo could have worked with Lin as he was at the time they played together then they would have been fucking dangerous. Jeremy Lin during Linsanity was a household name because of how good he was playing. Actual casuals if you think he’s a scrub.
@@arrownoir and @kobe
Y'all melo fanboy just can't accept reality. His move to knicks was a (minor) L let's be real. And abt that lin situation, it's 100% melo's fault. His ego couldn't handle it. The only argument y'all have is lin was not better than melo, which is true. But doesn't change the fact that melo looks bad in that situation. But ya know what? You do you. Be a stan to melo, ride him
I was glad that Dwight got a second chance with LA and finally got a ring.
same I was happy for Dwight
Thank god he was there in LA so birdman could pay for his stomach to get pumped . We could of lost him like Kobe.when he got that ring he gave up his ring piece .
@Caleb Douglas. I think he has has more then just a second chance. He had 6 different chances LOL, Orlando, Charlotte, Huston, lakers 2011, Atlanta Washington
@@FireAtWill But the first stint in LA was a disaster so this was like a redemption.
@@calebdouglas7622 tbh he was playing injured and also he was still in his prime in my opinion but nevertheless it was a disaster
jimmy butler? the man has the greatest practice story in the history of the NBA (including AI's practice shenanigans)
kobe: that's cute
Melo forced the trade plus lose lots of assets that could help him and Stoudamire with the Knicks and ruined Jeremy Lin's career because his ego wanted the spotlight to himself
Jeremy Lin was a scrub bro… regular player Kobe didn’t even fuck with him either
Dwight: Fire Van Gundy and I'll stay.
Magic's Front Office: Ok. *fires him*
Dwight: *Change my mind*
One thing i like about this topic is that the players finally have the keys now, not wasting your career on a trash organization.
That whole AD situation in New Orleans was just unbelievable in 18-19
Fck dat dude. He wouldn’t have no ring without Lebron. Dude has yet to play a full season. He cannot walk around NO openly
Super unbelievable, it made me look at AD a little differently but I'm over it ofc
As a Nets fan, the Dwightmare was such a rollercoaster. Glad we stuck with Lopez instead
He won a Chip thou.
Imagine being a magic fan, losing shaq and Dwight lol
@@jalen4945 and Tmac
How that work out for y’all keeping Lopez
@@anthonycole3084 He’s going down as an all time Net. We turned Lopez into DLo who led the team into the playoffs which attracted KD and Kyrie.
Man the Dwight Howard saga really backfired on him lol!!! They way he did Orlando wrong, it served him right he got treated badly by the Lakers and media
For one, Shaq never forced his way out of LA and Barkely never wanted to be on the Sixers since before he even got drafted
Yeah I've been a lifelong Lakers fan with Kobe being my favorite player of all time and I blame that split more on Kobe's ego and proving he could do it on his own more than anything on Shaq's side. I'm glad they made up and publicly showed each other love and respect before Kobe's passing.
Pretty sure that demanding a trade is forcing themselves off a team. Shaq and Kobe were beefing and Shaq wanted out of LA if he didn’t get the same pay raise Kobe did.
@@TheHuskyK9 The Shaq out of LA trade was almost ALL about Kobe and his ego.
IMO the Lakers should have traded KOBE, not Shaq.
@@bricefleckenstein9666 oh hell nah sorry but Kobe would’ve been the smarter player to keep knowing he was the much younger guy
@@SuperMisteryMan01 The "younger guy" issue appears to have been WHY the Lakers decided to keep Kobe instead of Shaq - only to have Shaq win Ring #4 about *5 years sooner* than Kobe.
Questionable decision there, though some folks would say that it was "damned if we do, damned if we don't" no matter which way the Lakers had decided.
Kyrie never accomplished his goal because he doesn’t know how to act like a leader.
he’s like a baby, he cries whenever he doesn’t get his way
Because he isn't a leader, that was obvious when Celtics made it to the ECF without him in 2018
Honestly I wish kyrie humble Himself sometimes. He try’s to hard to be Kobe as that “guy” on the team.
You know what... I feel that to a certain extent. But looking at it now, yes he seems to be a terrible leader by what the media shows us, but can we really trust media espn etc.. after all the narratives they create they’re such bad influences lol. The real media reports are the ones who use to play ball and RUclipsrs who actually do research. Just throwing that all out there.
If you wanna do something you gonna strive to do it
He failed thats why he tried to have a costar with KD
"LAKERS LOST TO THE THE LOWLY PISTONS?" Go check Detroit out they were dominant for 8 year period. Kobe was terrible vs Detroit due to Tayshaun Prince locking him up.
And Kobe forced Shaq out.
Are u serious on what planet do u think Shaq was gonna force kobe out of LA?? Do u do drugs
@@mikegillette3021 other way round
@@mikegillette3021 In hindsight it made sense to keep Kobe, but Shaq was definitely the better player whilst they were together, he did have 3 fmvps even when Kobe was on the team.
(11) Kareem forces his way out of Milwaukee
He should make a part 2 to this💯
(12) Harden got traded to the Nets
(13) KAT forces his way to New York for obi toppin 2 first rounds and Mitchell Robinson
@@xslumpedtra7655 KAT, RANDLE AND ROSE IS TOO DANGEROUS🥶
(14) Kobe's agent forces Kobe's way out of New Jersey, Charlotte
As a near life long Toronto resident, I can confirm that we hated Vince for a very long time.
My uncle said that the Vince Carter thing absolutely hurt us in the long run cause Vince decided to not give it a go with Chris bosh who was blooming into a star and it’s a huge regret to this day
What's weird is Vince still defends his side to this day. Yes management sucked at the time, but just say that publicly so you don't have to dog it. It's like he was a silent martyr, willing to take the heat from the fans while covering for the true incompetance of the management. I didn't like the way he went about it. Pouting, silent treatment, awkward media sessions, passive aggression. And we got ZERO back for him. Awful. Set us back a decade.
Poetic justice that Vince never got his chip but got to watch the raps get theirs while he was still playing
@@NiceTriGuy Vince is the only really people remember toronto
You should hate kawserial killer even more. He didn’t want to go there, even though he won you guys a gifted ring, he basically said your city of a pile of Flaming garbage and got out of there the second he could
At the end of the day, the NBA is a business. An organization would say one thing to a player, then do the exact opposite. So players will do everything to protect their marketing value in front of sponsors. It's just the environment the players are put into that causes them to act that way.
Definitely respect LeBron more after seeing this video. He was in a pretty bad spot his first time in Cleveland, but he waited till he was eligible for free agency and did it the right way. Much respect.
LeBron is a bum. Jumps from team to team the moment a little adversity occurs. He’ll abandon ship and go to greener pastures the moment he sees even the slightest chance to win it all elsewhere. He’s a front runner who doesn’t deserve half the respect he gets.
Did it the right way lol
Facts, people act like your supposed to just stick with one team for your whole career, they should have options
@@Springfeeeel3 literally everywhere he went he brought a championship 🤷🏾♂️
@@peejaythegreat1704 lebum trash
Dirk Nowitzki will never be a part of this
Tom duncan and manu too
And kobe
@@jayskiii not kobe. Kobe Bryant on 2007 trade request: Bulls were 'my No. 1 choice'
Source: cbssport
@@tempest13yearsago22 yet it never happened, the difference is clear dude. In this video, players were all traded. bulls backed out and he was in the lakers ever since.
Yes, players that never went to another team and are now retired will never be on lists like this. Thank you for stating the obvious
The Kawhi situation still gets me mad, when I really think about it.
That was your teams fault tho they were forcing em to get back om the floor when he wasn't ready not only that but teammates were talking smack about him behind his back why would he wanna be there. The spurs messed that up
@@jlahooper2496 they threw him under the bus
1 out 8 specialist on the injury agreed on kawhi camp. Aka the specialist that was under their books. Lol. Even skip challenge kawhi camp to sue for defamation if what he said was false. But pussy out on suing him because skip will bring out the other 7 doctors.
@@hellothere-us7iw Imagine trying to use Skip Bayless as a credible source. Skip also said he looked at Kawhi’s MRI, which if true, is a blatant violation of doctor-patient confidentiality, unless he was lying.
@@Doatello1991 hahaha good joke laughing my ass off. The fact they went pussy when he dared them to sue him, which means skip said is true. Only 1 out of 8 specialist agree with kawhi camp claims. Also spurs have access to those results since kawhi was under contract with them.
“Lowly” 2004 Pistons? They nearly won back to back championships and made 6 consecutive Eastern Conference Finals.
Great vid Andy! Please make these 15+ min videos more often, I enjoyed it very much. God bless you
Everytime I see that SVG-Dwight interview, I cringe so hard. I still remember seeing that live.
Imagine how awkward Stan Van Gundy felt with Dwight's arm on him. Talk about a cringe moment.
I don’t think this is much of a problem. NBA teams have already shown numerous times that they’re not loyal to they’re players so if the players wanna force a trade that should be fine
Imagine AD and Zion Williamson on the same team...
Definitely 11th seed
AD, Boogie and Rondo on the same....Still they failed. Possibly it can be worse
I just don't think they would have won. For some reason the Pelicans don't have the winning mentality.
Probably injured seed
Dwight Howard did what so many former stars refuse to do. He finally accepted he couldn't be a star anymore and reinvented his game to be a role player.
Barkley quite litteraly got fed up lol
Hey Andy, if you have Wilt Chamberlain, what about Kareem Abdul-Jabbar? Just like Wilt, he forced the Milwaukee Bucks to trade him to LA. This is way bigger than Chris Webber for sure. Speaking of wanting to trade to a team for more more money, what about Alonzo Mourning's trade to the Miami Heat from Hornets? Heck, I'll even take Shawn Kemp's trade from the Sonics to the Cavs for that reason. Way bigger deal than Webber.
You're talking to a guy who doesn't know what a "bust" is in the NBA. His view is skewed
Devin Booker almost got traded from the Suns but than they got Chris Paul and became a playoff team
woo almost 20 mins video 🔥🙌
*Kyrie’s trade just exposed how he isn’t much of a leader, all. Something we all knew . But something he wanted to prove to himself, the fans, Cleveland’s organization and most of all LeBron. Bad move, cause all it did was further validate the argument that he’s not leader . Especially as if late*
He’s good enough to have in a clutch moment like in the 2016 NBA finals but that’s about it.
Boo hoo move on already
@@trvspvrk move on?? This comment applies to what's currently going on too bro😂😂😂. He's damn near the 3rd option for Brooklyn. It's not bad to not be a leader bro, all you gotta do is play your role. Look at Wade when LeBron was his teammate, Klay all these years, Pippen when MJ was his teammate, PG when he was Kawhi and Westbrook's teammate. I can keep going on but you get the gist of it. A ton of HOF players were all-time greats but didn't have to make themselves a 1st option💯.
@@brandonjohnson3797 Don't you have to be an all time great to be in the HOF lol?
@@Bubs-_- no
Make more long videos like this. You're the best.
Vinsanity’s situation sounds similar to what James Harden did for the Rockets to trade him to the Nets.
There is a huge difference when it comes to management. Harden got everything he wanted and got help from other all stars during his time in Houston. Vince got no help and all Toronto management cared of about was ticket sales. Win or lose, Vince was selling out games. And everyone knows about Vince “throwing games” but management wanted VC out and made him unhappy on purpose because they wanted bosh to be the guy. They ignored his GM suggestion to hire a rookie manager in Babcock who was easily the worst GM in franchise history. They took away his moms parking spot. They ignore any suggestions for getting better players. Even the day before his trade, he asked the Raptors not to trade him but Rob Babcock did anyway.
@@InitialXG You know your history. Well said.
@@InitialXG Babcock. Haven't heard that name in a very long time. That was a pretty shitty time.
Lol nba stars getting traded is like working for a job u hate
I like watching Andy hoops videos every night before I go to sleep. So calming.
Nice content, I watched it through out. Good job man
….and now Ben Simmons….yo the sixers got a hell of a curse with their stars wanting to leave 😭
How many years did Barkely have on his contract? Barkley has been scathing Simmons. Not sure why, seems like he did the same thing, maybe just had less years left on his contract.
I feel like this is the best youtube chanell about basketball, very good explaining, entertaining, i love it
Thinking basketball better
Kyrie wanted trade not just because he wanted a ball more but also he heard Lebron wanted to trade him for Paul George after losing 2017 finals.
Great video! I really enjoyed it.
Kyrie now plays with 2 other superstars.. mission failed..
lol man joined a stacked team after saying he wants to be the man
@Rolling With Moore Blake Griffin ain’t a superstar.. probably not even a star
@Rolling With Moore look at this stats, he’s scoring 12,3 (which are minimum starter stats) he has a 365 field goal percentage (which isn’t very good tbh) he’s playing literally no Defence. watch his clips! 👍🏽 hopefully he’s going to get better with the nets
In a couple years you will be able to do “50 times a superstar forced themselves out”
I don't watch basketball, but this makes me think of Deshaun Watson 😂
it’s exactly the deshaun watson/antonio brown/leveon bell situations
Given Draymond Green's recent comments, this is a very timely video.
I'm glad players can demand trades, because nothing is said when teams trade them without a thought "Vice Versa"...
Jimmy Butler should have been on here. Dude beat the Twolves starters with the 3rd stringers and said fuck em lol
Kareem also forced a trade from Milwaukee
The Shaq trade had some additional nuances. The first was Kobe's free agency - he was considering signing with either the Bulls, Knicks, Nuggets or even the Clippers of all teams (Jerry West, while being a GM of the Memphis Grizzlies, told Kobe to not play for Donald Sterling). However it was all a ruse since Kobe wanted to make sure that Shaq will be gone. Also, the Lakers were looking to find a suitable trade partner for Shaq. Dallas were interested, but Mark Cuban rejected any trade packages involving Dirk Nowitzki. Shaq was also showing interest in returning to Orlando to play with Tracy McGrady, but that also fell through when TMac was traded to Houston. In the end the Lakers settled on the deal from Miami involving Caron Butler, Lamar Odom, Brian Grant, and a 2006 1st round pick.
Notice how the Lakers are on the other end of a lot of these trades The Lakers always seem to take advantage of these situations And that's probably the reason why they have So many championships
One of many reasons playing a factor but yes
@@YeeSoest well if you actually look at the Lakers history and you look at all of their best players a lot of them came from trades outside of Elgin Baylor and Jerry West every single Hall of famer has come through a trade or free agency signing Wilt a trade Kareem a trade Magic a trade James worthy a trade Shaq free agency Kobe a trade Pau gasol a trade LeBron free agency Anthony Davis a trade
@@patrickcarrillo714 sure, i agree. They also build the right circumstances and coaching staffs, Players like to go there (instead of say Boston or Chicago), Teams seem to like their assets in these trades...it's not just their "fault" ;)
That's what you get for being the arguably most popular basketball teams in the world
The most important business decision in NBA history was when the Minneapolis Lakers decided they were better off in LA. It completely changed the competitive balance out West and they were able to get other teams' stars for pennies on the dollar.
And the video doesn't even mention LA's two greatest heists: Kareem and Kobe.
For 99% of these players who give up on their own team and quiet-quit their way out of town it goes nowhere and the basketball gods make sure that they win nothing in the new city - until Kawhi happened - so look forward for another 25 years of this.
kyrie left cavs to be the stars. but he ended up being the second or maybe 3rd option in the nets 😂😂😂
Well, these trade requests worked out for Anthony Davis, Kawhi Leonard, Shaquille O'Neal, and Wilt Chamberlain. They all won championships after being traded.
Well Shaq and Kawhi were already champs prior to being traded
@@foofiiter Wilt was also a champ winning the 1967 Nba Finals before getting traded to the Lakers in the 1968 offseason. Only AD from your list hadn’t won a championship yet and never won finals MVP like the other 3.
No. The player deserves power because when they put their all in a franchise and give them the best years of their career when the franchise is done with u they will trade u where they want u to go
Great video 💯
I don't know if this video is a re-upload or he believes harden isn't a superstar or asked for a trade...
great vid Andy!!
Kyrie wanted to be a leader. And yeah it definitely didn't show in Boston and now in Brooklyn. 😆
Good vid Andy
And da knicks finally going to da playoffs this year
It is a problem but if teams are smart and keep good relationships with players they can avoid big spectacles and get max value for players. See OKC and the Paul George trade to LAC.
Even the Russ to Houston trade, it was honestly pretty swift and lowkey
I'm surprised Kareem Abdul-Jabbar didn't make this list
James Harden going to the Nets needs to be in a part 2
Nice video Brodie
Next season, it's Bradley Beal.
Naw he’s to loyal
@@LeBronJames-uz6mt he bought a house in LA 🙃👀
@@jspi04 so?
@@LeBronJames-uz6mt why else would he buy a house in LA 🙃
@@jspi04 because his dream Retirement place
Jason Kidd wanted out of Dallas in the 90s. I don't blame you for not talking about that(Toni Braxton)😂
I don’t understand why a player has to stay in a situation where he isn’t happy or it isn’t working out I say the players do what’s best for them just like the organization is going to do what’s best for them
Great Video Andy
2017 kawhi was a beast. Wish he didn't get injured. The warriors were hopeless in their series before his injury.
Hopeless???? It would have been competitive but the warriors are winning in 6 or 7 games
@@banjo3364 sorry. Meant to say in that particular game 1
Gotta thank Zaza for that
They wew 60 win team at that time
@@banjo3364 yeah hopeless I would say. GSW was losing like 25 points until Kawhi injury
Dwight though the Lakers would be his little pond like Orlando was. There was a Black Mamba waiting there, who wanted someone who would take Gasol's duties - not someone who thought Kobe would be his "yes man".
Dwight's misjudgement of the situation cost the Lakers several years of prosperity. it is wonderful to see how the Lakers gave him another chance.
I wanted the Shaq in Orlando trade story
Shaq wasn't traded he signed as a free agent
Long videos are great when it's great content good stuff great stuff
What about Kareem forcing his way out Milwaukee in 1975?
Recency bias?
Andy is 27, cut him some slack. I'm almost 40 and don't remember that. 70s era n.b.a. is gonna get lost in the shadows at times
I’ll get you banned from RUclips for your ridiculous comment when we are not mentioning Kareem to LA.
You make such good videos and I haven’t watched the NBA in a decade
Kyrie is just an emotional diva
I never disagree when a player wants to leave even if I like the team. I'm sure everyone here has left a job they no longer liked to find another
Someone forgot james harden
You had me until you said SVG was a great coach. He had moments and maybe could be considered good but his ego got in the way of his own greatness.
Why are the pelicans complaining they got picks and nice players for Davis it's going to be win win for both teams imo in the future
Let hope both Ingram and Zion can make deep runs
Out of the entire package the Pelicans receive only Brandon Ingram has big value and those picks will be late 1st rounders (25-30) anyway
Good video andy
Kyrie was never overshadowed on the Celtics
Kinda by tatum and brown when kyrie was injured
@@shawn17g no shit he isnt even playing 😂
@@shawn17g if Kyrie wasnt playing how in anyway could he get outshined? He was the best player on the team at the time
In the 2018 playoffs, the Celtics had an amazing run (they were one game away from making the finals) despite the fact that Kyrie was out for the entire playoffs with an injury. They showed that they didn't need him to win, and actually seemed to be playing better without him.
Bro what are you on about? They literally went to the conference finals without him.
love your videos
The raptors could have won a chip in the early 2000s if VC and TMac stayed together
Neither of them played defense so I doubt it lol!
@@bound210 They could surround them with defenders. They had good ones, Muggsy, Antonio Davis, Charles Oakley. They could have done it. I agree with Uz Khan
I like the longer video set up
And this is why I respect Damian Lillard
& The Greek Freak?
Lmao
Another great video!
Me: waiting for him to mention James Harden
now i understand why Carter didn't end his career on Toronto
Front Office in Sports can be selfish at times
No James harden??👀
Lmao thats what I was wondering
Maybe he started to make the video before the harden trade but uploaded it just now
Oh yeah, lol agree with the other guy though, this might be a backlog video.
James Harden definitely should've been this list, I don't know why AndyHoops ignores it.
- Skipped training camp to publicly party IN THE MIDDLE OF A FUCKING PANDEMIC
- Had no communication with his coaches/front office whilst skipping training camp
- Was completely out of shape after finally showing up on the training camp.
- Publicly throwed his teammates under the bus & disrespected them on his way out the door.
@@abuhassan8849 it's simple, this vid was made before the james harden trade lol
Great video.
Man NBA Stars can really be drama Queens
it's hard not to act like one when you're dropping 30 plus points every game only for your team to lose lol.
@@IDK-0402 - I agree. Plus it’s not ALL their fault. They’ve had people falling over themselves to kiss up to them from at least 15 years old. So you don’t exactly have to completely grow up when you’re treated like some kind of prince your whole life.
If you're makig millions of salary each year, 50k fine won't seem much if you actually get what you want
Melo may have never won a ring in Denver. However, Denver was his best chance he ever had to win a championship.
Lakers and spurs were good back then...
now the denver nuggets is 2023 nba champion.
I love your videos
I think it gets left out too often that Kyrie felt he was offered in deals by the cavs so his feeling was “they don’t want me here” it’s part of the story that gets left out
Felt? or he knew , how do you feel that?
Damn, Orlando Dwight is a buffed Dwight looking back