Why Arabs Are "Technically" White
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- Опубликовано: 18 фев 2023
- Today we examine the history of race in the western world and how it has effected the worlds understanding of Identity and Color. The question of why Arabs are considered white is a complex subject that I was surprised to discover wasn't as easy as I originally thought.
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I don’t know why America is so obsessed with labeling and boxing people into categories 😭
Being White Isn't about you're hue more as you're genetics and origin, probably his dad do have Afro ancestry. I have family who are Spain Arabs and other family members who are North African Arab. Majority of Arabs are White due to the ancestry genetics.
@chillskit3086 Wrong. The Middle East is ASIAN. They legally changed themselves by going to court to become white in the 1900's because Asians couldn't have American Citizenship in the 1900's. Look it up.
Cos i m organized
it isn't America broaden your knowledge.
Every place that has “race” on any document….for health, ID, any form…..uses identity in some way. Regular routine DNA testing in global healthcare will make changes in this, hopefully sooner rather than later.
I'm Egyptian myself and I didn't understand the reason behind why Americans obsessed with the race thing. we as Egyptian and arabs or north Africans have lots of skin colors. We do see it as customs and values more than skin tone.
Yes but you Egyptians are brown people just like middle eastern people
@@Scarwaz we have brown and light brown ,we also have black and we have white skin with blue eyes
@@Scarwazbut they're not always brown,and some Egyptians are black too. Kinda like desi people, colour can vary significantly
You right but accept it.
It's not an obsession, they do that for statistical purposes.
I’m now going to invent my own racial categories and theories, thank you for showing me how easy it is 🙏
@@rafaelw8115 I’ll follow it
And as long as at least one person’s being racist, my time won’t have been spent in vain.
What you going to call it
What are your pronouns?
@@mkviiscock asian
@@mkviis I don’t know what I’m going to call it, but instead of race being determined by skin colour, I will judge people based on their foot shape.
Of course, people with long 2nd toes will be the superior race, as toe length is an indicator of a persons intellect and values.
If you would like me to confirm whether or not you are part of the ubermensch, please send me a picture of your feet. Thank you.
im REALLY surprised you didnt bring up the story of George Shishim. He is THE REASON arabs are now considered white in the US. He was a arab american police officer who arrested a prominent lawyers son and then faced a legal battle over his citizenship/racial status. They argued that being Lebanese he was a mongolian asian. Shishim argued he was white and ended up winning, changing the classification of arabs in a direct legal sense. He famously argued in court "If I am mongolian then so is jesus, as we come from the same land"
Ouuu that would’ve been some spicy sauce to include in the video!
To be honest Lebaneses can pass as white even among Europeans
Honestly Berbers , Arabs and Persians to some degree can pass as white
@@nousername7509 you do know that their are Lebanese people with skin complexion that could also be described by the construct of “black” & pass as black in places like Europe & America just by their skin tone, so that’s not saying to much. Google “dark skinned Lebanese people.”
@@jaywee6430 their are Arabs, Persians & berbers that can also pass as black.
As a Saudi, I don’t consider myself white nor black. I’m light olive-coloured, some are more tan. But why should I be pushed to one end of the spectrum? The world isn’t “black or white”, pun intended.
Wouldn't you technically be considered brown no offense
Thai people call Middle Easterners "white kaek", and dark skinned South Asians as just "kaek". Do you think this categorization makes sense? Europeans on the other hand are called farang.
I think only white people see other races and ethnicities based on skin color, which oversimplifies people's ethnicities and heritages. My example of Thai people is about facial features. Skin color comes second. East Asians are one group because they tend to have small eyes and fair complexion. Malays and Indonesians and people in Brunei are another group. Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis are in the same group. Middle Easterners and North Africans are another group. The world certainly is not just based on skin color.
Realistically the arab looking people are probably just mixed with black and white from 100s of years ago there literally in between africa and Europe
Back in the days, the whole of Arabia was black. If you're "olive-colored" then you've got neanderthal admixture in your gene.
I was stationed in Saudis Arabia. When I got back to work, someone asked me if they were white or black. I was stunned by this silly question, and I couldn't say anything, and she accused me of being racist and hidding it.There are many places where the question is irrelevant. Incidentally, I gained an appreciation of the Arab culture and a respect for the differences.
The question should be irrelevant. “Black” and “white” are useless categories created by ignorant people. Different ethnicities such as Berber, Turk, Albanian, Kurd, Inuit and so on do exist however. Just ask them
Except the fact that Arabs are some of the most racist people on earth. The "polite" term for black people is abd which means slave. Or they'll call you zinji which is also a slave but has the context of the word nigger.
Cool man, hope you had a great time over there.
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Maybe it's not that important what skin color somebody has but it's definitely not a silly question.
i hate the word ''race'' because most of the time people are discussing skin tone, ethnicity, lineage and nationality all at the same time.
That term was philosophically created by the sic bastard Christoph Meiners
Right. Race is nothing but skin tone discrimination 😂
@@brcey That would be colorism, not racism.
@@yanrokbowl28 “prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.” No it’s not just colorism. Specifically says racial or ethnic group..
@@brcey I'm saying colorism is skin color discrimination. Colorism is only a subset of racism.
I’m of Armenian, Northern European, and Indigenous Ancestry, and I have been labeled “a white person who isn’t really white.” This comment was by a liberal.
Armenians didn’t become legally white in the USA until 1923. 😂
The hell! Armenians are more related to the Caucasus than ANYBODY ELSE! America is just stoopid! Smh!
Armenians are white, Caucasoid, unlike Arabs who like Yemen's are mixed with black
Alvin and his chipmunk brothers are Armenian.
Armenians are white, but if depends on Michigan you will be white because no Sun, if you live in Texas you could get a good tan.
@@joemama4473 interesting you mention this, as my great uncle who immigrated to the USA and was brown.
Are you Armenian?
The Middle East is a diverse region and generalizing the label "Arabs" is very wrong
The Arabs are the real Semitic peoples of the Middle East. "Turks, Persians, Kurds,...etc"...they are not Semitic people, even their language does not belong to the Semitic languages....
I have seen Arabs get 100% Middle Eastern in DNA test, but I've never seen a non-Arab get 100% Middle Eastern.
It's like Latino, it just means these people share a language and sometimes a culture.
Middle easterns aren't arabs because of the race, they are arabs because they speak arabic
Arab is anyone who speaks arabic or has ethnicities from people from those countries. I am algerian arab.
Yeah, they're turks and persians, and kurds, and armenians, and while many in the ME like to ignore that, jews. And if you classify jews as white (and they had to), then the whole middle east has to be white...
I'm Persian and from the Middle East. I've had many other Persian and Arab friends and let me tell you:
WE DO NOT CARE about our race or skin color (whether we're pale or tan) or whatever! Why do Americans LOVE this topic? Oh my God
I know many Persians that're racist towards Arabs but probably more 'culturally' and not so much based on race
@@fartz3808 yes, that's true. But there are racist people everywhere. Trust me, good and peaceful ones who have respect for everyone don't claim them.
The point I was trying to make was about how I don't like how western media makes everything about race and wants to recognize everyone with labels that shouldn't be the priority, you know, mate?
@@delphilily Yea I get it
Reason for the obsession? Race relations in the US are decaying badly because it's being amplified for political gain. Divide and conquer. And the public completely falls for it. I grew up in the 80s and 90s and it wasn't like this.
oppressed vs oppressor, white are the oppressors and people of color are the oppressed so it's important to distinguish who's white and who's not
In ancient Ceylon, people were curious about outsiders. They traded with outsiders and even allowed them to settle. It has changed after Portugese took advantage of their hospitality. Even after that, the worst case for a foreigner would be to be suspected as a spy. In that case you would be detained in some fertile valley for about one year to be observed, and well fed. They are allowed to work, learn, trade and even teach their religion, and write books. There are many books written by several foreigners from different countries who were detained in open space for observation. If nothing against them were reported, they are allowed to go back with royal protection.
විශ්ව, ඔයා Robert knoxගෙ එදා හෙළදිව ගැන නේද කියන්නෙ. මමත් ඒ වගේ තව විදේශීය එළිමහන් සිරකරුවන් ගැන අහල තියෙනව.
is that the amongus lingo!?!!??
@@Spencer_232
@@joeyjoseph4770 yup yup. Beep beep boop... ඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞ
@@joeyjoseph4770it’s the Sinhala Alphabet.
@@Spencer_232eka kohomada bn meh video ekata relate wenne?
My take on this matter is that genetics and how it manifests into phenotypes is much more complicated that it superficially looks like and we should stop using these categories to define human diversity. Ethnic and cultural characteristics are more precise and more true to how humans actually group together than any other framework, if we ever wanted to put people into such boxes.
I disagree bc race only becomes consulted when you change it as its been changed due to socioeconomic reasons. Race was supposed to be the simple fact that every race coke from the 3 continents of Africa, Asia and Europe.
Arabs are diverse in terms of skin colour
Really good video metta, great topic
Thank you so much ❤
Thanks Metta. Enjoyed a lot
Great video, weird editing at the end. I got hit with the ad expecting the video to keep going and make a conclusion, but it just ended. Just found your channel from the plant highs video and I'm sold on the subscription, but maybe think about video structure more a bit, this ended very abruptly. Looking forward to more content from you, though!
I love Comments like these. Thank you for taking the time give helpful advice
Dude i’ve been following u for a while on tik tok and i have to say i adore ur content, as a fellow egyptian sending love :)
I really appreciate that a lot. Are you also diaspora Egyptian?
@@Mettabeshay i do live in egypt but i’m working on leaving when i can
@@Mettabeshay how ever i dont find myself agreeing with alot of things about our culture
No we aren't white get lost. your race is deg-enerate and we are proud Arabs. there's nothing White about us Alhamdulillah
@@Mettabeshay Being White Isn't about you're hue more as you're genetics and origin, probably you're dad and grandfather do have Afro ancestry. I have family who are Spain Arabs and other family members who are North African Arab. Majority of Arabs are White due to the ancestry genetics.
Swag video.
My family is from Ghana.
Also keep it up youre going to blow up soon. Congrats on your RUclips success
the production value of this piece is insane good sir. good job. good sir.
As an American of Southern Italian, African American and Irish ancestry, I stopped filling out that irrelevant nonsense years ago.
honesttly.... I have no idea why I never thought of that.
@@Mettabeshay especially considering I've been mistaken for every ethnicity other than the ones I am. I'm married to an Egyptian from Al Minia, and I've been mistaken for being Egyptian. In America, I'm constantly mistaken for being Latina. Rarely do people figure out my ethnic mix.
@@juststop94 pretty cool mix you got
Just shows that racism is institutionalised in USA and have long way to go and "colours" are probably the worst option to categorize people anyway.
USA Isn’t the only place..India ,the Philippines ect.are heavy into skin bleaching..
Nothing to do with racism it’s bc Americans are not one skin colored and not all of them share the same history and culture unlike other countries that have one skin color and one history and one culture
@@unknownable6396 What is your point and you seem to embracing racism rather than condemn it? Your reply gives no answer or argument for anything.
@@Tybold63 my point is how can defining someone’s skin color bc his roots are lost make me racist?
@@unknownable6396 well why would you categorize them at all after colour is my point? We are all humans and it is how we are as individual that define us. Everything else is cultural not biological. If you get what I aim for.
Great video showed all the facts and more 👏👏
You nailed it bro. Loved this content. I am also mixed. It has never been about skin color, it's about how much you have and make.
Im a northern European Germanic to be exact
And we don't see ourselves as white but as pale And we don't see other people as black but dark
That black and white thing is an American apartheid The same as that African apartheid back then
Beantwoorden
The Nazis use the American Jim Crow laws in Europe during World War II against Jews,Black,Gypsy,and shocking Slavs who is also white
Because you're European this white term is only exist in the u.s not in you're country or other nationality in Europe
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What you just said is the truth
"That black and white thing is an American apartheid." Wrong.
I see talent man. Keep it up
Nice vid, you have a flair for being entertaining and humble.
There was a time that Southern and Eastern Europeans weren't considered "white" either. Some Southern Europeans, such as Italians, Portuguese, and Spanish actually have some degree of Arab ancestry as well from the Moorish rule over those territories. Myself personally, being of part Portuguese and Sicilian ancestry tan easily and can turn brown in the summer time. It's seems pretty evident that some of my background came from the Middle East ultimately.
I never thought Italian,Spanish or Portuguese were white. They don't look white to me
How much Arab ancestry? Have you done a 23&me? Being 5-10% Arab doesn't mean you aren't white or European. Tanning also doesn't make you another race.
@@dn822You are super wrong then. Compare the percentage of their blond and blue eyed populations to any non European country and they have a lot more of the people you would usually perceive as white.
The southern part of Italy even is ON the African tectonic plate, so geopolitical boundaries aside, people from the southern tip of Italy are actually North Africans …
@@Mulmgott I might be they just don't look white to me....or what I perceive as white
This is a really good video. This deserves more views; very educational.
It actually isn't the census literally says the ORIGINAL people of the Middle East, North Africa and Europe.
The Middle East and North Africa do have minorities of Black mixed people who are mostly the result of the slave trade not the original folks. Also Sudanese people are actually genetically mixed between Caucasians and Sub Saharans. Actually the term white is dumb. Caucasian is much more fitting.
Dope video dude, love the informational/humorous/self-deprecating style. Keep it up bro
Thank You So Much Mauricio!
No we aren't white get lost. your race is deg-enerate and we are proud Arabs. there's nothing White about us Alhamdulillah
@Chen Yung
You have dark skin indians that look black in south india
We Mexicans are Classified as White as well
@@colinchampollion4420 No you are not
Very good your time is appreciated.. blessings
This system really only exists like that in the US, not in Europe though. It is obviously pretty nonsensical for a great many reasons and should be abandoned. Here they were even arguing about the use of the word "racial" in legislature that expressly forbids to collect and process data on ethnicity, political leanings, religion etc. when applying for citizenship. That was like 20 years ago. So they were basically trying to figure out a way to say it is illegal to collect such data using this category without using the word that defined the category because it is nonsensical to begin with and shouldn't be used anymore. Was quite the hickup for them. 😂
I'm French and racial statistics are illegal here. I'm 46 and never was asked to state my ethnicity or race (which is a debunked concept) until I filled an aplication to a UK university : I was quite shocked and had to google caucasian to learn that in some places in doesn't just mean people from the caucasus mountain range
@@harounslackerright, also european here. No one ever asked my "race" and it's oficial that we are all a mix of sorts not any kind of race but very much european with all kinds of shades. Any of us answering a census would have to tick pretty much most boxes all at once 😂
You obviously have not been to the UK....you cannot buy simple commodities without being asked your race.
@@Sten111 lol 😂 great propaganda lies u got there.
@@Sten111 Well, you barely qualify as european 😅 But jokes aside, yeah I haven't but given it's EU regulation it kind of makes sense you would be the outlier.
*فالاسلام قال نبينا محمد ؛ لا فرق بين عربي ولا اعجمي ولا أبيض ولا أسود إلا بالتقوى ،، او بما يحمل داخله*
Lmao Islam is racist as fuck
واما عن محمد وما استعبد من سود؟ فكان يُبيع الاسود بنصف مقدار الابيض.
وهذا الحديث لا يُطبق هُنا، فهنا يُقال ان لا يُجد فرق بين العرق، وهذه اكذوبة، فلو سالته من احسان الناس في ركض والرياضة لقال هذا الرجول "السود"
في اي حال، الحديث يقول ان لا يُجد فرق عند الله.
اي كل عرق يختلف عن الاخر ولكن عند الله سواء
فربما يكون الابيض حقاً اذكى من الاسود ولكن اضعف، وهذا ما نراه.
Its called "Race Realism"
أحا أنت، دا ربك نفسه بيقول يوم تبيض وجوه وتسود وجوه، والحج محمد بتاع العيال كان عنده عبيد
Yea, we hear that but nowadays Arab are more racist than any others, even they hiding their blackness
Im mad how the video ended. This was fire !!!
I find it slightly funny how the races white and black are defined by colour while others are referred to by their ancestral origin
Most people in America are mixed with some of everything depending on the individual, I'm mixed up with African American, Jewish and white.
Do you look like Drake?
@maryn4150 I look like me sista love.
I'm mixed with indigenous Mexican (Huichol, Olmec tribes), Jewish, French and Spaniard ancestry.
I'm Arab American Muslim yet my genetic makeup is 70% Yemenite Jewish.
You are probably right about Egypt being a motive. Unfortunately this neglects the importance of all other megalithic structures from around the world from and since that time to even before the time of the oldest kingdoms of Egypt.
Here before you blow up king! Your content is gold
such a wonderful channel
I have blond hair, green blue eyes and light skin, but evey time I tell someone that I am Arab not " white" the look on their face is telling how the idea of " color" is embedded in many people's minds, more than often I have to explain that Arabs are the historical continuation of so many different groups that historically lived in vast parts of the ancient world, basically The ME and NA, and as such will reflect this continuity in culture, physical appearance etc, I try to explain to them that the idea of race among Arabs was rejected by most, in fact when some Arab authors tried to define Arabs as a race, like the medieval Al Jahiz, they were challenged and basically had to retract such ideas. In fact the idea of being " Arab" was supposed to be " open " and the funny part nowadays is that the proponents of " Arab purity " are sometimes " nonArabs " in terms of origin like Saudi Mansour Al Balushi, whose last name indicates he is a Baluch from today's Pakistan, yet people like him call Arabs like Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians " remnants of Romans and Greeks , very strange when actually the archaelogical records shows that the 1st mention of " Arabs " was in Southern Syria in 853 BCE by the the Assyrians fighting a coalition of Levantine kings in the battle of Qarqar
Is it your claim you don't have a race, and simply an ethnicity? I'd be fine with that, but I wouldn't want you to cut against normal identity for white Christians, which is so often the aim of people when they deny being Caucasian, which "white" is shorthand for. White Americans use white to have some group identity, which is much more cohesive than religion most of the time because white encapsulates a lot of cultural norms mainly stemming from the UK but also broadly from Western Europe.
@@pirizzo how do you define ethnicity to begin with?
@@herooja Ethnicity is a geographic designation for a group of self-identifying people based on shared religion or history for the last several hundred years. You classified yourself as Arab, which fits my definition. The only thing I don't like when it comes to discussions such as these is when people make the claim that they themselves are beyond classification to try to deconstruct another's identity.
@@pirizzo fine I guess, but I would rather use culture instead of religion, culture can include religious practices, but also language, non religious traditions and practices, food, music etc. In many Arab countries, like Jordan,Syria ,Palestine culture is shared by people of different religions, in the area of Jordan where I grew up, Muslims and Christians identified as Arab and non religious culture is almost the same among them. Even some Armenian Christians identified as Arab by culture but Armenian Orthodox by religion, as was the case with local Circassians(Adyghe) and Chechens, who adapted much of the original culture to the local Arab culture.
@@herooja The definition I provided made clear shared religion history within a certain region. It doesn't have to be just religion. Again, I certainly don't care if you have your own culture, defined by the way you'd like to define it. The only problem I have is when individuals like yourself, come into my country, which is the US, and claim that you're the same as me because we occupy the same place and therefore what I identify as doesn't exist. I'm a European American Christian, also known as a white American. We exist as a separate ethnicity regardless of whether it's blurry on the edges of the definition like it is with all ethnicities and cultures. The broad point is because you don't have a shared culture and history with me, you can't be part of my group, but my group still exists because there are tens of millions that identify with it, even if you are living among us. But I will reiterate that you can be whatever you identify with which exists in the region of the world you're from.
Here in Denmark (and most of Western Europe) if we were to refer to someone by race we would use the correct word for that person’s ethnicity or nationality, and if we are not sure about either we would probably refer to them by the area they are most likely from. Fx. Eastern European, Scandinavian, south East Asian and Arabic. Hearing Americans still using these old terms such as white and black just seem so uncivilized or outright offensive
Stereotypes can be right in most of the cases but that don't work for us latinos, i could pass as portuguese, italian, french, spanish, latino and even arab.
Wass up ese? Where's my money cabron? @@jovemgafanhoto4512
@@jovemgafanhoto4512Los portugueses, españoles e italianos también son latinos, ni eso tenemos propio.
Arabic is the language arabs speak, my brother.
Yet Europeans also refer to North Africans or Egyptians as arabs, while they are their own distinct ethnicities. Same goes for Irakis, syrians or lebanese. There's "culturally arab" and there's "ethnically arab". The latter only truly applies to Gulf countries.
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UGH YOU ROCK! I appreciate that ❤
@@Mettabeshay You're video information was coming from an emotional perspective, and lacked a lot of factual and logical informative perspective, but it was interesting.
Great content keep going! You left me hanging on the end tho I thought you were about to go into another rant
The US could probably add more categories that align with the overly board categories so they can still have contiguous data, but have categories that better reflect people's identities.
The existence of categories shouldn’t even exist at all. The only reason it exists is to properly allocate victim points to certain groups and discriminate against those who don’t have enough points.
@DownWithHamas someday they should go, but the data still might be valuable for the government to enforce discrimination law, like they recently rejected redistricting maps in the south because it put too many black voters in one place, thus reducing their influence. It wouldn't be an issue if the South hadn't violated the Constitution for 100 years.
@@VOTE_REFORM_UK Well maybe instead of the flag of the whole country (associated more with Fatah than Hamas) you should have Hamas's logo in the slashed circle.
@@bootmii98
It’s associated with Hamas too
@@VOTE_REFORM_UKthat's not hamas flag
Can we please stop categorizing people according to their skin tones💀💀
Well there’s only a few type of ppl
black,brown,red,yellow,white
That’s it
great video
RUclips algorithm can give you some good videos from time to time. This is one of them
In the early 20th century, many Americans of Levantine descent sought to be classified as white, like Italians. Up until the 90s, most Arab Americans were Republican (and also Christian), like the Sununus of New Hampshire or Justin Amash. (Sirhan Sirhan did a lot to get Nixon elected if you think about it). Now it may have changed, but the census form included people from North Africa and the Middle East as white.
They need to change north africans are black
Wether they like it or not
@@God-ob9zs Take it up with the Dept of Commerce
@@tmlforsyth ngl these maghrebians need to understand they r not lebenese to b shitting on ppl with melanine
Especially the women
Women in north africa are as racist as black women
@@God-ob9zs cope
@@God-ob9zsthey are not black
There’s two definitions of “white” I hear people use most frequently:
White as an arbitrary classification related purely to appearance, most notably skin colour, but also facial features and other things. This definition is arbitrary, mostly defined by peoples perceptions, and relates to what most academics call “race”.
White as a classification related more to ethnicity, which takes into account culture, history, language, etc. This definition is used much more frequently in the USA by progressives (despite their census saying otherwise) and often relates to oversimplified historical power imbalances in the country.
These are both pretty stupid and borderline useless ways of classifying people imo.
True I bellieve skin colour should only be used when trying to describe someone if necessary
Let say:
1 hey dude did you see Markus ?
2 Markus who ?
1Johnson man
2 idk him what does he look like
1 he is pretty tall with curly hair he like wearing jerseys and stuff like dat
2ohhh you mean mark
1 no,Markus is black
@@jonathanjoestar9317 Agreed, in situations like that I don’t think a super consistent definition is needed, and that’s 100% ok, it does function. I’m not even totally opposed to using ethnicity to understand other things, like I do believe that it’s valuable to understand the historical context of different groups in area. However I think people should mostly ditch terms like “white”, “black”, etc. since I think they’re too much of an oversimplification to be useful. Or if you are going to use them, understand their limitations.
@@beans69beans yeh i got you
Like instead of saying I'm mexican or I'm Brazilian
They just go "I'm Latino"
Like do they all share the same history? Hell no
or it like seeing someone from Saudi Arabia and asking them "are you black" like dayum man that not relevant at all I don't understand why they over generalise and oversimplify
@@jonathanjoestar9317 100% ya! we’re on the same page here fs
Neither one of those is the definition of white. White simply means European
I'm surprised you haven't reached 1k subs yet, I thought I was watching a million subs YT channel until I checked the comments. I died at 3:59 and 4:17. Keep up the work, it's truly just a matter of time.
Dude you're awesome. I love your videos.
as an egyptian this question never mattered t's more culture than color
This is so weird to see as a German. Here in Germany, officially you are only asked for your citizenship and not classified by your look. People don't self-identify here with skin color but with the country, their ancestors are from. I guess, Americans have lost any connection to their roots, so they have to identify with their skin color.
@@binladen-ci7jm well considering what germans are (again) doing to europe i would not bet on that intelligence
Bc Americans are not one skin colored and not all of them share the same history and culture unlike other countries that have one skin color and one history and one culture
Aryan Nazism....please look into your history.
@@frawgeatfrawgworld
aryan was a name for indo europeans east of iran ...west of iran they did call themselves "Men of the earth"..be it in italy or in Anatolia or in Canaan
and for germans
I have worked and lived in Germany ...... They will overwhelmingly follow any rules you give them, and put pressure on anyone they meet to follow the rules as well. ...they will follow dumb rules blindly, there is a strong urge to ensure everything goes according to a set framework. This makes German society uniquely vulnerable to adapting to a new social framework based on a top-down ideology of any sort that provides order and holds authority. It's essentially like having a classroom full of prefects where everyone is passionately performing their duties, no matter what shape their duties take. Obviously this is stereotyping. But on average they are less "people" than even your people
@@frawgeatfrawgworldthey did. That's why they don't classify people with race, and that also counts for the rest of Europe, as far as I know at least (i'm italian). The very concept of race doesn't exist here in the EU, we prefer the term ethnicity.
Great video I was surprised to see so little subscribers
Awesome video. Thumbs up and you got a new follower :)
I think MENA region should their own category tbh.
I am Arab and I am white skinned , my older brother who looks exactly like me is actually 2 shades darker than me (wheat color / tanned).
In middle east in general people don't care much about the color of your skin
Because you are not real arab
The case for Egypt is a bit complex, due to its location being a crossroad.West, South and East, you'd find at least three different skin tones. And according to representations from the Egyptians themselves, people from North Africa were the whitest of them all. As for the Egyptians themselves, being at a crossroad, and the target of many migrations and invasions, it's likely they ended up being a mix of them all.
Nothing u said is true
@@Bell_plejdo568p Maybe not. Maybe nothing of it is true. It is, after all, nothing but science... and at that point, we're going thousand of years back, so obviously our sources for knowledge are very scarce and uncomplete.
So yeah, it might not be true... maybe it will be proven wrong. But based on the current evidences that are available to archeologists and ethnologists, it's the closest thing from truth we currently have.
Maybe the representations of the egyptians were actually inaccurate. All we know for certain is that phenicians and berbers were represented using whitish pigments, while nubians were represented with darker tones (black or bronze-like, depending on the tribe).
@@Bell_plejdo568p
Yes it is , the old egyptians
depicted nubians dark black, themeselves light brown, and lybians (maghreb people) light skinned.
@@EGYPTIAN_MUSLIM. You're talking about a completely different timeline. The occupations happened much later in egyptian history. Migrations happened far before any form of egyptian State even existed, during the prehistoric era.
I'm curious about the very concept of "ethnically pure country". How do you quantify that ? Which countries do you consider ethnically pure, and why ?
I just realized this dude has 900 followers.. i thought it was 900k ngl, the quality on top keep it up
Very well presented🤘🏿
How tf does this have so little views. I saw this video and excepted it to have millions of views but it doesn’t even have a thousand
Edit: nvm it’s just newly uploaded
Ugh this means so much thank you ❤
They have Arabs in all colors if were talking middle eastern people they live on the peninsula connected to Africa n Asia while bordering Europe. Their generally mixed people.
love this video
I love your videos!
As a kuwaiti arab i never differentiated races and it never even crossed my mind until ive seen the american ideology about it like damn
USA has been deep in racism while most of the world prefers colourism lmao
Egyptians and Sumerians: Yo who the hell calling my descendants white 💀
I mean, they weren't black and they definitely were Caucasoid.
They were your not from them mutt
@@basedtvrk9125 The term "Caucasoid" doesn't necessarily mean white and white people are considered people who are European
@@JoshJack-iu6yd Sorry, but that's not the definition western governments use to categorize race.
Wayne, MI is the county Dearborn is in, which has the largest Muslim population in the US. Just by numbers, not surprised this happened in that area.
I appreciate this video. I recently met my birth mother and discovered she's mixed Irish and Syrian and this answered questions I had 😭
Great video, imma go ahead and subscribe. I agreed with everything pretty much except for calling enslaved Africans "indentured servants." Looking forward to your future videos. keep it up!
Man, Brazil treats race in soooo diferent way it's even hard to understand the whole discussion, i mean, if you look white you are white, if you look black you are black, if you look asian you are asian, and if there's no clear answer you're just mixed race. But people doesn't seem to care about it even a fraction of how americans does
Interesting because the black people in brazil tell a different story.
@@CHPYXO off course there's racism, unfortunately this happen all over the world, but here people view "black" more as a skin color than a race, like was said in the video. It's impossible to see a dark skin north African been called white in Brazil
I think most of the white Brazilians are Italian descent? Or at least that's what i learned from the few Brazilian friends i made on the way .
But they were also impressed by how i looked as a north African , apparently i was beautiful (they made a lot of comments about my freckles) , but beautiful in an alien weird way 😂.
I think they were like : This gal looks close to us , but not close enough .
Loved them tho , great sense of critical thinking and awareness in the Brazilian youth .
its interesting because im dominican and puertorican and live in brazil and some people here in the northeast region say im white others say im pardo, others say im "moreno" whatever that means but when I lived in the USA nobody considered me as a white person. Nowadays I just say im a pardo on the lighter side here in Brazil , but im starting to care less about these arbitrary classifications because I know who I am and my history so I guess genotype and culture is more important than phenotypes.
@@SkepticShaman13 pardo, moreno or mestiço are words for person with a mixed race
I’m a Syrian and we are technically not 100% Arabs. We have Roman blood in us and some caucasian blood. And the rest is different arab tribes.
My intro to you.
Very interesting..
And cute.
My little brother passes as a lightskin/mixed kid, but dutch people often think I am dutch, even though i’m 100% Moroccan. We come in different colors.
Bro like most of the ppl in these comments didn’t even watch the video lmao “why do Americans care about race” WATCH THE VIDEO
A lot of North Africans look white, Tunisians and Algerians could definitely pass for white.
Because they have lots of Non Med European admixture to them from the Vandals, Visigoths, And Vikings many that were slaves just as many Non Med Africans were like Nilotics And Sudanics yeah.
I dont think they are native to north africa cuz many french have lived in north Africa and married the locals and that why many of them look white, also after the fall of andalus many muslims of andalus who were Europeans have escaped to north africa, and the Barbary slave trade they enslaved Europeans in north Africa, so all that will get white looking people in those north african countries, they culturally arabized through so many of them dont know their origin.
That's cause they are invaders
@@matthewmann8969 Not really , European admixture in the Tunisian population wouldn't surpass 20% at best , we're racially north Africans , all north African popualtions cluster with each other and then Arabs( because of a proto Natufian population and Anatolian farmers ) and lastly Europeans ( because of the Anatolian farmers ).
And yes some of us are white passing , but most of us are not , we're brown ( with all the shades) and we have our own phenotype .
@@_VISION. Nope, they are the original North Africans. ❤
In north EGYPT a lot of people there are white but the color becomes more and more darker when you go down to swath to Sudan direction
I find this very interesting and kinda funny cuz this is the same for many countries (iran, india, Afghanistan etc) even my country pakistan. Up north they are very fair skinned (mainly cuz they iranic for e.g pasthuns) and the more south you go the darker they become
You're right, I'm light skinned with coarse hair from Gharbia Governorate
As someone coming from a country of people who are of mixed race. The talk about race was one of the most confusing things i heard.
Where u from
@@HELLO_KORO Maldives
Apparently Europeans North Africans and Middle Easterners cluster together quite closely; enough to fit into one broad category despite some physical differences..The Irish can look quite differently from Italians yet both cluster closely together compared to other races. It's not just outward looks but overall genetic make-up. It's all relative.
Europeans North Africans and even Indians cluster together, Indians are closer to skin to some subsarahan Africans but there skull shape is closer to Europeans and genetics.
Nice work
It's not just because fo ancient Egypt. the Civilization has existed for the first 2000 years between the Tigris and Nile only. Counting and writing systems from cuneiform to Alphabet and all Abrahamic religions was made in the middle east
by brown middle eastern
They put us on the same page with them In order to increase the centrality of the white man
your totally right. thats why the whole "hamitic peoples" Bullshit also comes from.
You shouldn’t say they are “literally not white” as many Arabs are
Nice Moog bro
I don’t understand why the western world talk a lot about the skin colour and how they categorise people and race. Is it that important??
And after all that they call us a racist😑
Not just the West. I live in Asia, and skin colour and other features are used to define categories too. The names are simply different
Summary
0:00: ⚪ 미국에서 중동인들은 백인으로 분류되며 아랍인도 포함됩니다.
2:57: 🌍 인종주의는 유럽인에게만 국한되지 않으며 역사적으로 다양한 문명에서 실천되었습니다.
5:33: 📺부유한 소수가 백인 대 흑인의 구도로, 부자 대 가난한 자의 대립에서 눈을 돌리게 했습니다.
7:56: 📜 역사적 인종 이론 소개
11:22: 🌍 Blumenbach의 인종 분류로 아랍인과 북아프리카인이 백인으로 분류되어 현재의 인종 정체성에 영향을 미쳤습니다.
I enjoyed every bit of
Half Algerian, half French, I'm delighted to discover your videos! Bonjour de France :)
same here im hal algerian half french
American census categories are weird. White isn't a purely racial category but also linked to ethnocultural aspects. The biological race is called caucasoid or europoid and you can guess where the latter term is more common. We actually had two lessons about race at school in year 6 and later also a bit in year ten at my German school. It was very factual and about which races exist, where they migrated and where different races mixed and what the term for those mixed race populations are. We were shown pictures and there was a map in the general school atlas book we all had for geography. Political correctness idiocy changed that later. Anyways, the caucasoid race reaches from Europe to India. The vast majority of Indians are caucasoid, just of a darker skin as skin tone is actually something that can change relatively quick from an evolutionary perspective. Siberia/Central Asia has been an area where this race mixed with the mongoloid one (Native Americans also seem to have a small but significant percentage of caucasoid ancestry but mainly mongoloid) while the Horn of Africa is a mix with congoid/negroid race. There is also the australoid one mainly in Melanesia but with population elsewhere and traces of ancestry in Southeast Asia. Last but not least there is the tiny capoid one comprising the Khoisan in Southern Africa.
It's just that. It has nothing to do with any normative claims. No need for racial conflict. We are races of the same species.
So this is basically a "just because school taught me something it must be true" argument?
Indians are not just dark Caucasoid,they are an admixture of native south asians( a population genetically similar to dark skinned kinky haired" andamanese people"),and Indo European population (europoid) and some do have some level of east Asian admixture.
@@kingpauljoel6827 those Iranian farmers and Indo-Europeans are not caucasoid? I know about the australoid admixture in parts of India as well as mixed and fully mongoloid ethnic groups. But look at the size of the australoid admixture and also where Indian population centers are.
@@shueibdahir not the point. The point is it was normalcy and didn't change because of science but because of politics.
@@napoleonfeanor I didn't say Indo Europeans were not Caucasoid , when they migrated to India or Iran ,they didn't find empty lands,those lands had population prior to their arrivals.
Indians today are not purely Caucasoid.they are not just Caucasoid who got darker,the region with more dark skinned indians(southern India)have a high level of andamanese or australoid like ancestries (non Caucasoid)
Why does race exist? *vsauce music starts playing*
Before 7500 years ago give or take the whole planet was African in complexion and phenotype. So I would say soon as white and light skin was introduced to society and having seeing the world mostly black or brown the minority race of white people created a system to survive against the dominant traits.
Omg I love v sauce
I am Syrian .. a main example of a "middle eastern"
My color isn't white isn't black isn't yellow....
My skin is darker than white ؛ lighter than black
But as Muslims we don't care whatever your color is
The most important thing is your morals
The one who fears God the most is the best
In europe we care about your nationality, regional background or if you are a gypsy. Depending on this factors it can be a difficult live.
Being White Isn't about you're hue more as you're genetics and origin, probably his dad do have Afro ancestry. I have family who are Spain Arabs and other family members who are North African Arab. Majority of Arabs are White due to the ancestry genetics.
How tf does this have so little views. I saw this video and excepted it to have millions of views but it doesn’t even have a thousand
No we aren't white get lost. your race is deg-enerate and we are proud Arabs. there's nothing White about us Alhamdulillah
Thought the exact same thing ….wild
crazy good vid for 1k subs damn
The ending thou🫠….. is there a part 2?
In Asia, we identified ourselves with nationality not with skin color. Like Chinese Japanese and Vietnamese. We're different!
Bc Americans are not one skin colored and not all of them share the same history and culture unlike other countries that have one skin color and one history and one culture
@@unknownable6396that statement applied to basically any country in the world, especially those birthed after colonization. Stop downplaying other people's history!
Asians also have prejudice against skin tones within their own populations. Some are darker skinned, which is deemed less desirable in some Asian cultures.
Regional identification is much better like central asia, South Asia, South East Asia
This is true for all mediterranean people including southern Italians, southern Spanish, etc. Those who are dark skinned are sometimes discriminated but officially they are as white as Norwegians. So they are discriminated twice because nothing is made to help them face this discrimination which is supposed not to exist
Southern Europeans are not dark skinned.
@@digiorno1142 many are.
@@digiorno1142Then it seems you never left home. There's a bunch of Southern Europeans with dark skin. And outside Southern Europe, I even have seen and met a few English, Irish, Welsh and French with dark skin. And no, they were not Indian, African or whoever descents. They were just Europeans.
@@avnereriksen “Dark” relative to an english or Irish guy. Nobody in Europe is truly dark skinned.
@@tm2bow653 Not really. Maybe some Greeks and Sicilians that is it.
Why the only video on RUclips where the thumbnail answers the question
What’s your editing process? And are you from Michigan lol I noticed how you reacted to the Wayne Michigan dude
I can't imagine how crazy it must be to non-american people when they see how much american culture is obssesed with race, your race defines everything about you (how you dress, how you are treated, the places you go to, the hobbies and likes you have), must be nice living in a place where your race isn't so relevant.
In any other country you would not care tbh
I confirm, as Spaniard, that here we do see all that as crazy. I think we most likely we don't even have any census about that, and the closest you can get is being descripted by your specific country origin as an inmigrant. The only place I've ever had anything to do with my "race" was answering US Americans trying to flirt with me and saying well intended but freaking coments such as "I love X race". I understand that different races there could develop some different cultural stuff while seggregation and so, but why are they STILL acting like if they where somehow sooo different?
@@asherl5902 As a "Hispanic" or the more accurate word, Mestizo, I can confirm that this is true
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Didn't Spaniards invent the casta system, a racial hierarchy in colonial LatAm? It classified ppl based on pure/mixed racial backgrounds, limiting social mobility for non-Euros & reinforcing discrimination. The system still has a choke hld on LatAm, some like 2 'mejorar la razuh' aka better the race by marrying whyt. It's y, to this day, black+mestizo+Native Americans dominate peasantry & working class, while whyt Latinos (criollos, of 🇪🇸 lineage) r part of the ruling elite. Not obsessed w/ race 🏎️ at all, huh? Ur countrymen invented the blueprint😯. Umm I guess it’s easy to forgot when ur not dealing with the consequences? Lucky u!
@@nvmoondevotee28yrsago48 What are you talking about? Nobody was talking about history, and if you wanted to point it, that could be indeed very interesting, you'd better have a little bit of respect. Did you felt somebody was attacking you, so you had to answer just to bring hate???
I never said that Spaniards never have been racist nor that nowadays in Spain there's no racism. I only said it's very different, and the we see US cultural products talking about race is weird and nonsense to us (nowadays, of course). Certainly we completely moved away very luckily and totally disagree with the caste system in America, whose effects are still alive in Latam alone (since it's where people was affected by it, it's obvious), as you pointed. What shall we do? Bring a time machine to not have done it? Or would you prefer that we continued applying the very same casta system in XXI century Spain? Do you really think we're still like that? This racism in Latin America, as you're describing, is also different from the current in US and from current in Spain. Not to say anyone is beter or worse.
But if you just want to talk about how evil and racist Spaniards are, I remind you that we also expelled all Jews and Moor descendants and ended with the natives of the Canary Islands, etc. Of course that doesn't mean we are nowadays antisemitic, for instance, but you don't really care about that, right?
Technically, Arabs and Europeans are closer to each other than they are to East Asian or blacks. They form a genetic cluster that is called the West Eurasian cluster. East Africans are partially west Eurasian and partially indigenous East African which is the closest ancient African population to all none Africans since all Eurasian people crossed from east Africa to Eurasia. With that being said I don’t think Arabs should be considered white because this makes Arabs a minority without protections. Also it makes Arabs as a minority not benefit from certain laws and programs meant to uplift minorities.
Dude you are funny and yet i learned something new from watching this video. Naaggaayyaa and peace from an Oromo sister :)
I think it has to do with the “Caucasoid” skull shape that the Arab, Jewish, Indo-European, Indo-Iranians, Finno-Urgalic, and Ethiopian peoples share. However, I would promote the term “Caucasian” as a reference to “Caucasoid” people rather than just Europeans.