@@bretthalliday8253False! Transactions are made via CC or PayPal (if your smart) banks will always side with the customers and banks dont loose. That's who you contact for a claim.... thought that would have been common sense.
*As long as they have check marks your good, you can file a claim just make sure you do a little research on what ur doing! 😂* you wanna buy from the man, not middleman or 3rd 4th man* FYI no company wants to verify something they don’t sell lol, Good video!
Claiming fake is so dumb. The engineering that it’ll to take to fake a surron, you won’t make a fake you’ll make a competitor. It’s too expensive of a bike manufacture.
While this video contains SOME useful infomation the title seems misleading or inaccurate. I'd consider giving a thumbs up for the content IF the title matched the content. It would also be useful if this video included even a single example of results from someone in the US who bought a surron on Ali, particularly the seller you have identified as a scammer with no evidence that they are a scammer.
He didn't say they were scammers, just that they're not authorized sellers in the US definition of it. The bikes appear to be authentic according to people that have ordered and received it from this supplier.
@@nGAhGENVH0Ul they're authentic because most ebike companies just rebrand these chinese bikes from the same manufacturers lol. 95% of ebikes you can find on aliexpress or alibaba cheaper. Literally the same exact specs and designs.
@thelonercoder5816 no that is false information the quality of material is very poor of this bike. The dealer must give warranty it won't be possible to make profit iff you get them from China. It is crap
This official network of distributors or partners are only a thing in the US. Yes that’s the only way they can warranty bikes in the US, or provide replacement parts. The manufacturing warehouses down there all do deals with eachother, they trade and sell at cost. It doesn’t mean they are scammers, it also doesn’t mean this is a knock off. It usually means one warehouse manufactures the motors, the other the frame, yet another may be the brakes or bearings, they can all trade parts for full units to sell.
So just wanna say I ordered from this seller and had the bike for months now with no problems. I plan to make a review to show everything works if anyone is interested
I am all for being skeptical of a deal too good to be true, but far as I can tell most of the sur rons I have seen listed on Alibaba have passed the sniff test.
The transformer is because the bike sold on Alibaba are not meant for the US market. They come with 240 volt chargers. The transformer steps it down to 120V. So yeah the Chinese person meant transformer when they said transformer.
For the people that don't know why the prices are cheaper for the same spec bike..... 1. China does not have the same overhead on just the buildings they operate from. The cost to lease a building and set up an ebike business is going to be 3x more in just about any country. Lets say the warehouse is in California, How much would a manufacturer need to raise the price on a bike to cover the cost of an 9000sq ft building? ($50K a month lease ) 2. Employees! How many people do you think work at an ebike company? Do you think they get paid the same amount as Chinese sellers? Again how much of a mark up is needed to cover employee wages? 3. Insurance 4. Licensing 5. Utilities I can keep going but im sure simple math can guide you on why its cheaper to buy direct from the manufacturer warehouse.
Trade assurance is useless makes no difference nothing like eBay or PayPal trusts me I’ve lost out twice £500 the one time £5000 the next and I sent all evidence all the bikes I bought were has over spray of the wrong colour in areas and then we’re still too coated apparently this was down to shipping 😵💫🤯 how you get black overspray on yellow and blue bikes from shipping is amazing so Alibaba saw favour in the seller the seller blocked me i was and still am tempted to do a full review on RUclips about it with all evidence. Saying this I have also some good suppliers but you need to be so careful
Im planning to buy a surron off alibaba, do you have any recommendations or any recommended manufacturers i should buy from? Im scared to get scammed honestly or scared in general for the surron to bail on me with no warranty then id have no way of fixing anything
I am from Changzhou China .Advanced manufacturing city near shanghai.That price maybe the "Factory price".However, there is no guarantee.Not recommended to buy
Im thinking of buying a 2023 surron from alibaba has anyone bought one and if u have whats the experience and if it actually came please let me know the company name
Before you crap on this too much, I just ordered a Surron Storm Bee from Alibaba because my dealer (150 miles away), had absolutely no clue about the product at all, no idea it had a street tire option available, while the Alibaba rep gave me both options at the same price and knew exactly what I was referring to. I have no problem with paying and shopping local IF there is a value add, in this case, clueless...
@@LifeAsLalo I ordered from "Changzhou Double Spring Machinery Co., Ltd.", it took 12 weeks from order to delivery @ my door but I would do it again, $5,649 including shipping (Ultra Bee with street tires (90/90-19 front & 120/80-18 rear), the "R" version is what I believe Surron calls it)...
I'm using an ebike from Alibaba. Today is year 3 riding it with no issues. You had a bad experience and probably bought from a crooked seller and bad manufacturer
Why..to satisfy the demands of a hand full of nerds ? .. normal people don’t give a toss..we appreciate the effort & advice. How exactly are contributing to society ? 🤷♂️😂😂
Yes but Luna cycle is upset from taking away from the profits and I did use trade assurance was a great experience. Oh well but that is there problem. You get the transformer and Sur-Ron charger. I got great price on ultra and lite bee. Not just a couple dollars off. I really like your videos I find them very informative.
Funny he said the seller on Alibaba is fake or a facade to a fashion but what's a guy who looks like this and talks like this if this channel doing buying a dirt bike anyway? No guy who looks like that has any business buying a dirt bike of any kind I'd say if anyone's not legitimate and fake it's a guy running the channel
but only thing really interested in ...Is it any good ..... Bet you it built using very same process ...... i dont care where it made ...only if it better and if not how much worse and how much cheaper As far as warrenty goes ..MEH ...i void warranty in about 2 weeks when i decide to upgrade something ....of course ....warranty to me aint worth trash ....buy and replace parts ..
My problem is the corruption of our government to the point that there are unlimited jobs in China and hardly anything in America as far as manufacturing. In my area there are manufacturing companies that pay their employees the minimum wage here in NY but retail stores at full time pay $5 to $10 an hour more. That's an issue! They sold us out folks ..our own federal government
Hey man, loving the channel! Do you happen to have a video about installing an ebike kit? Looking to get a kit thats made by the same company you used in a video.
I have 2 surrons.. one from Luna, and one from another dealer, seems like a lot of dealers have popped up this last year. The serial numbers look alot different.
sorry for the late reply, the problems is that I came here from China so I have Id there and you need a Id to register a account on Taobao ( unless you know someone with it ) and a surron x is going about 21000 chinese yuan which are ~ 3100$ ish@@Dabby724
Yo the company you are showing sell surrons that are legit you should look into it before you say things Luna cycles does have the market and contract for the Talarias in US. But this company and the parent company can sell surrons they also sell in China also. But there a few that are legit like the one you mentioned so you are making it up for views and don’t know . If you look into what you’re doing a Alibaba you do not get ripped off. Of course you should really look into the company and the products and do video chats etc. but what you’re saying is incorrect you’re acting like Eddie E bike you mine Alibaba is not new one. The one you’re showing is brand new.
@@OnlyGrans69 No, my comment was aimed at purchasing a new bike online from Alibaba or Amazon. If you buy a bike online, and something breaks, unless you're technically minded and can fix it yourself, you may have a hard time finding a bike shop to repair it. None of the bike shops in my town will repair, or even look at, a bike purchased online. Hence, if you buy it from an official distributor, you can always take it back to them for repairs.
Saving a couple hundred bucks by buying from off brand sellers is the risk you take. Pay to play. Luna cycle all the way and they took good care of me.
@@allanshpeley4284 yeah, thousands is significant. And if the reports that you're getting the same thing but with less handholding it might be worth it, as sketchy as Alibaba is.
@@marquis-_5501 didn't say luna cycle made the surron, but they are one of the trusted main sellers of the bike. I meant off brand sellers like Alibaba.
You should do your research before posting your video, the supplier you called out is a surron manufacturer just like the iPhone there are many companies that supply parts for surron giving them the right to sell the product as well. You are right about a gold and verified supplier the scammer surrons are cheaper than 3500 that’s the factory cost Luna cycle wouldn’t sell at cost that’s why you see a retail price of 4300
You should correct the title. Ali is just like eBay there some really good sellers But also scammers. out of 15 times buying i only had 1 issue and it was latency
I read all the comments 80% of all alibaba dealers are scammers alibaba is a sad sorce website that shouldnt allowing these types of misleading dealers
Alibaba is as bad as wish now. The only difference is Alibaba takes so much more money. Thousands of dollars. They fgot me 2 times right in a row. I trusted the 1 guy and tried to get one again from another. They were both gold suppliers and I have not got my money back. Upwards of 5k usd. They screwed me huge. I have ordered other stuff from Alibaba and it was fine but these two times were not .
Thanks you didn’t get one and show us whether it was a scam or not, and you didn’t even show the results of the other dude Jesus this is bad content. You didn’t tell us anything more than what we already knew.
Purchased from seller. Had no problems at all. Took about 2 months to get though, their customer service agent/sales person provided updates and tracking. The bike i received was packed exactly as the ones people receive from LUNA or any other us authorized sellers, only thing was that a lot of the paperwork was in chinese😅
This video is pure Bullsh!t.. I bought one and it’s very great. The fact that it isn’t from an American company will make US content creator give bad reviews about it.
May not be the appropriate video to ask, I have been thinking and really wanting to get an ebike for quite some time now... I was thinking of getting the Ariel Rider Keplver 52v as it seems good for my budget ($2k or less), I'm hoping for an opinion, would it be better to learn and get something custom? (if so where would be a good place to start looking to learn) Also, is it appropriate to buy an ebike in the winter or should I wait till it gets warmer? Thank you if you do reply, perfectly okay if you don't I mean I feel like some people would want payment for knowledge. :)
I can't see why it wouldn't be appropriate buying a e bike in winter. Just make sure you have the right clothing especially for your ears! And the tyres are in good shape
@@ItaintmeCCC Thanks for replying, I was only assuming it may be bad for the battery or if there is bad weather proofing but nonetheless its a bike so i'd assume it would be proofed. And ear protection sounds like a good idea for the cold especially that I live in Wisconsin, think i'd own something for my ears by now.
@@mfo7611 Like 5 degrees fairenheight low? It hasn't been negative to my knowledge in years if you mean that low. Edit: I mean I guess I could take the battery inside so that shouldn't be an issue.
@@foxtrotjeff Information below is from the site called "battery university". In short, you will experience performance issues and in rare cases a short that might cause a helluva fire. The performance of all batteries drops drastically at low temperatures; however, the elevated internal resistance will cause some warming effect by efficiency loss caused by voltage drop when applying a load current. At -20°C (-4°F) most batteries are at about 50 percent performance level. Although NiCd can go down to -40°C (-40°F), the permissible discharge is only 0.2C (5-hour rate). Specialty Li-ion can operate to a temperature of -40°C but only at a reduced discharge rate; charging at this temperature is out of the question. With lead acid there is the danger of the electrolyte freezing, which can crack the enclosure. Lead acid freezes quicker with a low charge when the specific gravity is more like water than when fully charged. Matched cells with identical capacities play an important role when discharging at low temperature and under heavy load. Since the cells in a battery pack can never be perfectly matched, a negative voltage potential can occur across a weaker cell in a multi-cell pack if the discharge is allowed to continue beyond a safe cut-off point. Known as cell reversal, the weak cell gets stressed to the point of developing a permanent electrical short. The larger the cell-count, the greater is the likelihood of cell-reversal under load. Over-discharge at a low temperature and heavy load is a large contributor to battery failure of cordless power tools.
@@allanshpeley4284 ok. Let me tell ya. 190mm rear frame drop out. 135 mm axl cramped with a cheap ass 7speed shimano , so bend rear axl, first install drop bearing install😅 Chain Line massacre comes with that . Bad shifting..💀 I got an extended Frame wich i not ordered, wron lights too..got ripped with shipping price and no Fenders and what not.!!! Very bad was a way to short cheapass fork wich let the wheel hit the frame when breaking front Breaks , cheap ass tectro breaks way to wrak... So a very bad deathtrap to say the least. 1200 miles it was all wasted.. 😏 Hurt my knees very bad twice.. And my left shoulder was not dislocated but ripped apart.. i look like a mutant now. It took my 13 months to get all the parts to make it gr8t. And now it is... Maguramt5e breaks .. internal gear hub. All the good stuff... 37.5ah blended.. lekkie bling ring 46 by 21 cog, eggrider.. Custom everything mate...😅💪💯 So .. i hope you get some info from my comment 😃✌️👍🍀🍄
Please give us an update mate I’m looking at one that cost $1166AUD but am skeptical and looking at the refund policy on aliexpress in the case that I get scammed
I haven’t got it yet. I’ve had plenty of communication saying that it’s arrived in the country and it’s held up in customs because it’s over $1000 US so these duty to pay and I haven’t heard from customs New Zealand about the duty or the arrival of the bike, so I’m assuming it’s all about scam but cording to the tracking app it says it’s going to be delivered tomorrow. I’ll put it updated by actually get it.
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*Correction - This supplier on alibaba does have a gold account status.
Wich suppliar?
That's just what the scammer would say🤔 😂 👋jk
@@bretthalliday8253False! Transactions are made via CC or PayPal (if your smart) banks will always side with the customers and banks dont loose. That's who you contact for a claim.... thought that would have been common sense.
*As long as they have check marks your good, you can file a claim just make sure you do a little research on what ur doing! 😂* you wanna buy from the man, not middleman or 3rd 4th man* FYI no company wants to verify something they don’t sell lol, Good video!
What a pointless video
In other words you didn't actually buy one to check for real or fake.
Everybody has an opinion when they aren't spending the money😂
exactñy, just click bait
Claiming fake is so dumb. The engineering that it’ll to take to fake a surron, you won’t make a fake you’ll make a competitor. It’s too expensive of a bike manufacture.
That reply email you got was them saying “we aren’t going to tell you if it is authentic, just buy from us” said in a nice and professional way.
They have to do that actually so the Company 'Surron' doesn't sue them.
Very Ironic actually
While this video contains SOME useful infomation the title seems misleading or inaccurate. I'd consider giving a thumbs up for the content IF the title matched the content. It would also be useful if this video included even a single example of results from someone in the US who bought a surron on Ali, particularly the seller you have identified as a scammer with no evidence that they are a scammer.
He didn't say they were scammers, just that they're not authorized sellers in the US definition of it. The bikes appear to be authentic according to people that have ordered and received it from this supplier.
@@nGAhGENVH0Ul they're authentic because most ebike companies just rebrand these chinese bikes from the same manufacturers lol. 95% of ebikes you can find on aliexpress or alibaba cheaper. Literally the same exact specs and designs.
Agreed
this video is useless
@thelonercoder5816 no that is false information the quality of material is very poor of this bike. The dealer must give warranty it won't be possible to make profit iff you get them from China. It is crap
wow deleting comments that show this supplier is not a scam. that's not cool.
LOL
Karen version male
This official network of distributors or partners are only a thing in the US. Yes that’s the only way they can warranty bikes in the US, or provide replacement parts.
The manufacturing warehouses down there all do deals with eachother, they trade and sell at cost. It doesn’t mean they are scammers, it also doesn’t mean this is a knock off. It usually means one warehouse manufactures the motors, the other the frame, yet another may be the brakes or bearings, they can all trade parts for full units to sell.
Wow, if only Apple Computers was like that.
So just wanna say I ordered from this seller and had the bike for months now with no problems. I plan to make a review to show everything works if anyone is interested
Link?
Same, nice to do business with and a genuine sur-ron turned up.😁
Could you do a review? thanks!
Was it the 2023 surron im planning to get one too please let me know
@@pauldfinch4145how was the experience and how long did it take
I am all for being skeptical of a deal too good to be true, but far as I can tell most of the sur rons I have seen listed on Alibaba have passed the sniff test.
Yeah $500 for a surron seems super legit right? If you can’t find ridiculously obvious scams all over Ali baba for surrons then your just not looking
The transformer is because the bike sold on Alibaba are not meant for the US market. They come with 240 volt chargers. The transformer steps it down to 120V. So yeah the Chinese person meant transformer when they said transformer.
The ad I got during this video was for Alibaba! 😂😂😂
For the people that don't know why the prices are cheaper for the same spec bike.....
1. China does not have the same overhead on just the buildings they operate from. The cost to lease a building and set up an ebike business is going to be 3x more in just about any country. Lets say the warehouse is in California,
How much would a manufacturer need to raise the price on a bike to cover the cost of an 9000sq ft building? ($50K a month lease )
2. Employees! How many people do you think work at an ebike company? Do you think they get paid the same amount as Chinese sellers?
Again how much of a mark up is needed to cover employee wages?
3. Insurance
4. Licensing
5. Utilities
I can keep going but im sure simple math can guide you on why its cheaper to buy direct from the manufacturer warehouse.
Trade assurance is useless makes no difference nothing like eBay or PayPal trusts me I’ve lost out twice £500 the one time £5000 the next and I sent all evidence all the bikes I bought were has over spray of the wrong colour in areas and then we’re still too coated apparently this was down to shipping 😵💫🤯 how you get black overspray on yellow and blue bikes from shipping is amazing so Alibaba saw favour in the seller the seller blocked me i was and still am tempted to do a full review on RUclips about it with all evidence. Saying this I have also some good suppliers but you need to be so careful
Im planning to buy a surron off alibaba, do you have any recommendations or any recommended manufacturers i should buy from? Im scared to get scammed honestly or scared in general for the surron to bail on me with no warranty then id have no way of fixing anything
I am from Changzhou China .Advanced manufacturing city near shanghai.That price maybe the "Factory price".However, there is no guarantee.Not recommended to buy
Chiyyyna are...
SCAMMERS AND SPAMMERS!!
Im thinking of buying a 2023 surron from alibaba has anyone bought one and if u have whats the experience and if it actually came please let me know the company name
Before you crap on this too much, I just ordered a Surron Storm Bee from Alibaba because my dealer (150 miles away), had absolutely no clue about the product at all, no idea it had a street tire option available, while the Alibaba rep gave me both options at the same price and knew exactly what I was referring to. I have no problem with paying and shopping local IF there is a value add, in this case, clueless...
Please reply , i need that link dad on a budget lol
@@LifeAsLalo I ordered from "Changzhou Double Spring Machinery Co., Ltd.", it took 12 weeks from order to delivery @ my door but I would do it again, $5,649 including shipping (Ultra Bee with street tires (90/90-19 front & 120/80-18 rear), the "R" version is what I believe Surron calls it)...
I also got the USA charger direct from Surron (on their web site, $300)...
im seeing "surron" bikes for sale for like $800. theres no way thats legit right
I'm using an ebike from Alibaba. Today is year 3 riding it with no issues. You had a bad experience and probably bought from a crooked seller and bad manufacturer
Why did i Get an alibaba ad before this video 😂😂
They are all made in the same factory 😭
Consider using OBS for picture in picture instead of the monitor on camera setup
Why..to satisfy the demands of a hand full of nerds ? .. normal people don’t give a toss..we appreciate the effort & advice. How exactly are contributing to society ? 🤷♂️😂😂
Yes but Luna cycle is upset from taking away from the profits and I did use trade assurance was a great experience. Oh well but that is there problem. You get the transformer and Sur-Ron charger. I got great price on ultra and lite bee. Not just a couple dollars off. I really like your videos I find them very informative.
If I can buy a sur-Ron for 800 bucks, I dont care if it's an official distributer.
Right, lemme know if you find anything out about it
Did u buy it?
thats a big IFFFF. leme know how that works out
Did it work?
Funny he said the seller on Alibaba is fake or a facade to a fashion but what's a guy who looks like this and talks like this if this channel doing buying a dirt bike anyway? No guy who looks like that has any business buying a dirt bike of any kind I'd say if anyone's not legitimate and fake it's a guy running the channel
lol
but only thing really interested in ...Is it any good ..... Bet you it built using very same process ...... i dont care where it made ...only if it better and if not how much worse and how much cheaper
As far as warrenty goes ..MEH ...i void warranty in about 2 weeks when i decide to upgrade something ....of course ....warranty to me aint worth trash ....buy and replace parts ..
No matter what they want way too much for those electric dirt bikes it's ridiculous
You being bad at math doesn't make it "way too much" or "ridiculous" in any way, shape or form.
Click bait is the scam
My problem is the corruption of our government to the point that there are unlimited jobs in China and hardly anything in America as far as manufacturing. In my area there are manufacturing companies that pay their employees the minimum wage here in NY but retail stores at full time pay $5 to $10 an hour more. That's an issue! They sold us out folks ..our own federal government
"couple of hundred bucks", *ahem ahem* 1k is not a couple of hundreds Mr. Laforge.
Some of the ads on there only charge around 1000$ which can't be true
Hey man, loving the channel! Do you happen to have a video about installing an ebike kit? Looking to get a kit thats made by the same company you used in a video.
So if i order frok aliexpress will i recieve a surron or not?
I have been wondering same. It's really cheap there and too good to be true
I have 2 surrons.. one from Luna, and one from another dealer, seems like a lot of dealers have popped up this last year. The serial numbers look alot different.
Do you like the one from Luna? I’m about to buy one from Luna
I say 1.5k made on each bike
Doesnt look like a scam..there’s a lot of good bikes there
So it's not a scam, it's just your opinion that it could be a scam? I don't get it?!
It’s well more than a couple hundred bucks saved. There is tax and dealer mark up this is well over $1000 from Luna
I need say nothing here, you all have it covered.
The first red flag was, many other videos only want to tell us how to buy on Alibaba.
That's the same box at the New Zealand Costco ? Could your local Costco selling Sur Ron's soon ?
I would just buy from the official dealer. Why risk it to save $500?
dude your missing the point. Its not about cost, its the fact that alibaba ships worldwide and luna cycle only ships bikes to the U.S
I have seen a lot of these surrons going for under £1000 gbp and I wanted to buy one but after seeing this video I am now in two minds about it
i bought a surron x from china for 3000$ + 200$ shipping so i saved about 1600$ for upgrades so total worth it ( also need a 220v to 120v converter )
which seller did you buy from, if you don't mind me asking?
sorry for the late reply, the problems is that I came here from China so I have Id there and you need a Id to register a account on Taobao ( unless you know someone with it ) and a surron x is going about 21000 chinese yuan which are ~ 3100$ ish@@Dabby724
Maybe the official distribution stores are profiteering on the bikes,
And actually they are a little cheaper than they sell for on alibaba
Hahahah i got an ad from alibaba before the video started
Wow shows how cheap they buy them. Luna must pay less then 3k a pop wow. No wonder they give warranty
The first ad on this vid was a alibaba ad
Yo the company you are showing sell surrons that are legit you should look into it before you say things Luna cycles does have the market and contract for the Talarias in US. But this company and the parent company can sell surrons they also sell in China also. But there a few that are legit like the one you mentioned so you are making it up for views and don’t know . If you look into what you’re doing a Alibaba you do not get ripped off. Of course you should really look into the company and the products and do video chats etc. but what you’re saying is incorrect you’re acting like Eddie E bike you mine Alibaba is not new one. The one you’re showing is brand new.
I'll be back to post! She's coming into the dock now.
What’s up Brotha, been with you since your beginning and glad your still going. Be nice to find line of cheaper hub motors and batteries.
They won’t go down in price only up
This title seems like a scam.
And when I clicked this video I get an ad from alibaba
I clicked this video and you won’t believe who the sponsor videos were before this video😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Them 😂
screenshot just because it was hilarious
Buy only from the official distributor. That's the only way you'll get a warranty or any service if something should break, which you can't fix.
Electric bikes are quite easily fixed. So you're arguing we should eliminate the used/refurbished market based on your logic?
@@OnlyGrans69 No, my comment was aimed at purchasing a new bike online from Alibaba or Amazon. If you buy a bike online, and something breaks, unless you're technically minded and can fix it yourself, you may have a hard time finding a bike shop to repair it. None of the bike shops in my town will repair, or even look at, a bike purchased online. Hence, if you buy it from an official distributor, you can always take it back to them for repairs.
to late got scam with 2 bike's
Im the guy who ordered it
Bro I need to know how was it?
@@mediicice5862I received it this guy is probably sponsored by luna
How did it go
Omg I wished I watched this video before I got ripped off
God bless you bro. Just know I need some prayer please
Got an alibaba ad on this video lol
Bro when i clicked on the video alibaba ad popped up
Saving a couple hundred bucks by buying from off brand sellers is the risk you take. Pay to play. Luna cycle all the way and they took good care of me.
More like a couple thousand bucks.
@@allanshpeley4284 yeah, thousands is significant. And if the reports that you're getting the same thing but with less handholding it might be worth it, as sketchy as Alibaba is.
Off brand? Luna cycle didn’t make the bike
@@marquis-_5501 didn't say luna cycle made the surron, but they are one of the trusted main sellers of the bike. I meant off brand sellers like Alibaba.
I got scammed clickbaiting this video
😂
Can someone please recommend an Alibaba seller? Why is the price 5500 on most sites right now? And 4400 a year ago?
your video is the reason why we need dislike count back on youtube
so i bought my sur ron on Alibaba but from a good supplier tho hope i dont get electrocuted :P
Did it turn up
@@stew8490 yes yes have it for a year now
It is the real thing
Am I the only one? Who's just waisted 6.58s of their life watching this?.
Saved nearly 1k using Pega. Sure it took nearly 3 months to get to me.
But those months were cold anyways. Who's riding when it's 20F outside?
You should do your research before posting your video, the supplier you called out is a surron manufacturer just like the iPhone there are many companies that supply parts for surron giving them the right to sell the product as well. You are right about a gold and verified supplier the scammer surrons are cheaper than 3500 that’s the factory cost Luna cycle wouldn’t sell at cost that’s why you see a retail price of 4300
is the surron on lithium power sports legit ?
Got an Alibaba ad on this video haha.
Bro i got a ad of Alibaba 👁️👄👁️
You should correct the title.
Ali is just like eBay there some really good sellers But also scammers.
out of 15 times buying i only had 1 issue and it was latency
So are you saying that I can order from luna cycle with 100% guarantee, no scam???
Basically, don’t get the ones under 1,000 💀
I read all the comments 80% of all alibaba dealers are scammers alibaba is a sad sorce website that shouldnt allowing these types of misleading dealers
False
So you must buy your ebike parts in America?
Someone may have swapped it out during delivery
How is it a scam if the country it’s made in is the origin of the sale? Obviously they are able to sell it at a reduced price.
this video is mostly to stop people from going around middlemen
Isn't there redundancy with purchasing on Alibaba where the money doesn't go to the Seller until the item is received by customer?
That’s what I’m wondering
This is not true I’ve lost money on there I currently have 3 ultra bees coming I pray they turn up if not I’m thousands out of pocket
@@brettnicholls did you get it ?
@@brettnicholls any update?
@@brettnicholls they turn up?
All I want to say is that this is one of the most useful channels, so I subscribed to it, how much I benefited from you. Thank you
Thanks so much!
@@NPLVentures ❤️❤️❤️
Lol Luna Cycle doesn't offer 1 bit of a warranty
I would never spend that much on Alibaba!
Alibaba is as bad as wish now. The only difference is Alibaba takes so much more money. Thousands of dollars. They fgot me 2 times right in a row. I trusted the 1 guy and tried to get one again from another. They were both gold suppliers and I have not got my money back. Upwards of 5k usd. They screwed me huge. I have ordered other stuff from Alibaba and it was fine but these two times were not .
Did everyone that bought that green Ebike from Amazon for under $100 get their money back without issue?
I did. Lol
Thanks you didn’t get one and show us whether it was a scam or not, and you didn’t even show the results of the other dude Jesus this is bad content. You didn’t tell us anything more than what we already knew.
Purchased from seller. Had no problems at all. Took about 2 months to get though, their customer service agent/sales person provided updates and tracking. The bike i received was packed exactly as the ones people receive from LUNA or any other us authorized sellers, only thing was that a lot of the paperwork was in chinese😅
can you provide information on make model and price? i want to know which profile name you got itt from too possibly?
Please say it like this..... Diss trib you shin... Also, you save $1700 CDN, not just a few hundred bucks
uhhhmmm. what happend to the alibaba purchase??? lol . all u did was tell us to leave it up to us and do our own research lol 🤦♂️
Well made and works well.
They want $500 delivery anyway screw them
Reallly?
This video is pure Bullsh!t.. I bought one and it’s very great. The fact that it isn’t from an American company will make US content creator give bad reviews about it.
Can you really buy stuff off alibaba
May not be the appropriate video to ask, I have been thinking and really wanting to get an ebike for quite some time now... I was thinking of getting the Ariel Rider Keplver 52v as it seems good for my budget ($2k or less), I'm hoping for an opinion, would it be better to learn and get something custom? (if so where would be a good place to start looking to learn) Also, is it appropriate to buy an ebike in the winter or should I wait till it gets warmer? Thank you if you do reply, perfectly okay if you don't I mean I feel like some people would want payment for knowledge. :)
I can't see why it wouldn't be appropriate buying a e bike in winter. Just make sure you have the right clothing especially for your ears! And the tyres are in good shape
@@ItaintmeCCC Thanks for replying, I was only assuming it may be bad for the battery or if there is bad weather proofing but nonetheless its a bike so i'd assume it would be proofed. And ear protection sounds like a good idea for the cold especially that I live in Wisconsin, think i'd own something for my ears by now.
@@foxtrotjeff Wisconsin, eh? Very low Temps would be bad for the battery.
@@mfo7611 Like 5 degrees fairenheight low? It hasn't been negative to my knowledge in years if you mean that low.
Edit: I mean I guess I could take the battery inside so that shouldn't be an issue.
@@foxtrotjeff Information below is from the site called "battery university". In short, you will experience performance issues and in rare cases a short that might cause a helluva fire.
The performance of all batteries drops drastically at low temperatures; however, the elevated internal resistance will cause some warming effect by efficiency loss caused by voltage drop when applying a load current. At -20°C (-4°F) most batteries are at about 50 percent performance level. Although NiCd can go down to -40°C (-40°F), the permissible discharge is only 0.2C (5-hour rate). Specialty Li-ion can operate to a temperature of -40°C but only at a reduced discharge rate; charging at this temperature is out of the question. With lead acid there is the danger of the electrolyte freezing, which can crack the enclosure. Lead acid freezes quicker with a low charge when the specific gravity is more like water than when fully charged.
Matched cells with identical capacities play an important role when discharging at low temperature and under heavy load. Since the cells in a battery pack can never be perfectly matched, a negative voltage potential can occur across a weaker cell in a multi-cell pack if the discharge is allowed to continue beyond a safe cut-off point. Known as cell reversal, the weak cell gets stressed to the point of developing a permanent electrical short. The larger the cell-count, the greater is the likelihood of cell-reversal under load. Over-discharge at a low temperature and heavy load is a large contributor to battery failure of cordless power tools.
is the Nakto brand a good brand??
I really thought you might have actually gone through all the process yourself and bought a bike...I'm sorry I believe this is a waste of time.....
I got a bike from them and excelled
Not came in great shape got the purple one.. just what it
T was supposed to be
Yup... i got scammed with an Alibaba ebike.. ordered an 52v bbshd Mario ebike sort of super73 clone..
Was a Deathtrap that Ride...
Never again....
What was wrong with it?
@@allanshpeley4284 ok. Let me tell ya.
190mm rear frame drop out.
135 mm axl cramped with a cheap ass 7speed shimano , so bend rear axl, first install drop bearing install😅
Chain Line massacre comes with that . Bad shifting..💀
I got an extended Frame wich i not ordered, wron lights too..got ripped with shipping price and no Fenders and what not.!!!
Very bad was a way to short cheapass fork wich let the wheel hit the frame when breaking front Breaks , cheap ass tectro breaks way to wrak...
So a very bad deathtrap to say the least.
1200 miles it was all wasted.. 😏
Hurt my knees very bad twice..
And my left shoulder was not dislocated but ripped apart.. i look like a mutant now.
It took my 13 months to get all the parts to make it gr8t. And now it is...
Maguramt5e breaks .. internal gear hub.
All the good stuff... 37.5ah blended.. lekkie bling ring 46 by 21 cog, eggrider..
Custom everything mate...😅💪💯
So .. i hope you get some info from my comment 😃✌️👍🍀🍄
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I just bought a surron light bee x, off aliexpress, $1192 NZD, free shipping, I'm assuming its a scam.
Please give us an update mate I’m looking at one that cost $1166AUD but am skeptical and looking at the refund policy on aliexpress in the case that I get scammed
I haven’t got it yet. I’ve had plenty of communication saying that it’s arrived in the country and it’s held up in customs because it’s over $1000 US so these duty to pay and I haven’t heard from customs New Zealand about the duty or the arrival of the bike, so I’m assuming it’s all about scam but cording to the tracking app it says it’s going to be delivered tomorrow. I’ll put it updated by actually get it.
@@m0pedsdo you get it ?
@@jonaszirkelbach2433 No I got a small box with two picture hooks in it, don't do it.
@@m0peds?