China permits Tesla to transfer data for Full Self Driving back to America
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- China permits Tesla to transfer data for Full Self Driving back to America
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I think you're wrong. The "ordinary data" is specified, and the type of data allowed is not FSD relevant.
You are wrong about the latter. Tell us: what data is that exactly and why shouldn't it be autonomous level 5 (because the term fsd is meaningless) relevant?
you think you're smart but the Electric Viking is much, much smarter than you.
@@chillfluencer ruclips.net/video/KQKwsewfGcU/видео.html
Less people dying on the road is a good thing,even a country like China wouldn’t deny that,keep up the great work Tesla ,cheers Sam 👍💪😉
LoL 😂
You don't know how advanced China's autonomous driving is, do you? Even a country like the United Snakes have to take note.
I would be interested to see if Musk starting fsd will boost the entire industry in China like it did when Musk started selling his cars there.
If there’s a lot of autonomous driving competition in China we’re gonna see a lot of progress really fast I believe.
@@blackknight4996 Yeah Chinas "advanced" autonomous driving tech is joke
@fredericoduvel30H 0:10 92 He knows his car can't compete the local EVS.
@@blackknight4996if it’s anything like their software in Chinese cars then it’s beyond laughable ,bing bong “30 seconds later bing bong “turn bing bong off “bing bong lol,I don’t think Tesla have much to worry about in that department 😉
This is wrong. The training data is not approved for transfer only business type data. No camera data. If you actually read the documents.
That is no longer the case.
in the past.
Training data is NOT approved is my understanding.
It's a funny world we live in, where ideologies can get flipped upside down. Sometimes countries that claim to be capitalist can resort to protectionist measures like tariffs, hindering competition. On the other hand, some communist nations might embrace market reforms to a certain extent. It's all about pragmatism, I guess! ^_^
You think China is Communist? You are naively funny..😂
nothing is related to political systems in this china move.
in the last century, cause of china suffering failure was isolation from the world.
so you can predict that china is open gradually.
Pragmatism? No. The reason for the United States to be protectionist is that the US is jealous and fearful of China's advancement in technology.
It's all about public misleading, smearing adversaries and white agenda for world domination, that simple
China is a special case. They don't trust china. If it was from any other countries (that doesn have clear beef with US) there wont be much push back agaisnt their product.
Thanks so much Sam.....Big news
Gina Raimondo's mind is going crazy trying to figure out the love relationship between Elon Musk and China
Its easy to figure out. China goverment treats Tesla better than US goverment. You can see how much easier it took to setup Giga Shanghai than Texas
Baidu the company the Chinese Government partnered Tesla with????
As of Q3 2022 has already done 1.4 million paid robotaxi rides
As of Q3 2023 4.1 million paid robotaxi rides
you really have to dig into multiple western media articles to gleen this real information… rather than Tesla is going there to introduce robotaxis
To me sounds like instead of Tesla FSD they will export Baidu Robotaxis App in Tesla vehicles
👇
Baidu starts offering nighttime driverless taxis
December 26, 2022
Starting this week, the public can ride its robotaxis in Wuhan between 7 am and 11 pm without safety drivers behind the wheel.
Previously, its unmanned vehicles could only operate from 9 am to 5 pm in the city.
The updated scheme is expected to cover one million customers in certain areas of Wuhan, a city of more than 10 million people. Like most autonomous vehicle startups, Baidu combines a mix of third-party cameras, radar and lidar to help its cars see better in low-visibility conditions, in contrast to Tesla’s vision-based solution.
In August, Baidu started offering fully driverless robotaxi rides, charging passengers at taxi rates.
In Q3, Apollo Go, the firm’s robotaxi hailing app, completed more than 474,000 rides, up 311% year over year.
Accumulatively, Apollo Go had exceeded 1.4 million orders as of Q3.
TC
Supposing China actually did this they would require a reciprocal. This implies Elon Musk made promises he intends to keep with China without consulting the United States government. This also implies he is operating at a level above governments of the world. This is a very heady position to be in, so let’s hope he keeps his head together.
Probably yes
Nonsense
My picks for the bull run: ADA, AVAX, SOL. Best presale? Revux, no doubt.
This will save Tesla money and allow them to use Nvidia hardware that is banned in China.
Banned by US.
Not banned.
Be educated...
@@blackknight4996the good stuff is banned…
@@fredericoduvel3092
You "think" it's banned. Good...
But it isn't....
Not banned...by china... Banned from being sold TO CHINA.... Because American gov is dumb.
damn thats huge
Elon said 8/8 Dragon. Because it's the year of the Dragon. Also SpaceX has a spare capsule called Dragon
1) Permitting Tesla to transfer data for Full Self Driving doesn't mean that US will allow it.
2) Does the US network satisfy the minimum latency requirement for self driving
Referring to latency, I've been wondering about how it all works. I think it records the drive, then uploads it to the central server after the car is parked, at home, connected to the home wifi.
Afternoon mate
Great news
I did see a report says China permit data to transfer to the US for training. Only removes the restrictions for operational data
Does this include FSD data? I don’t think so..
For the auto sector, the data includes manufacturing information such as procurement and stockpile, research and development, after-sales services, and used car sales. The Shanghai government’s event on Friday included Tesla, Ford, and BMW, said a person with direct knowledge of the matter. The city government and the three companies did not immediately reply to Reuters’ requests for comments.
Seriously, get Revux now before it’s too late!
Nice. But I'd rather see an affordable $20k EV car available in the States.
Nissan Versa
@@justinr9753 I should of added EV.
@@dr.x4050 lower price cars didn't really sell well here, so they aren't able to make it up in volume. Also, just to add some perspective on prices, the Nissan Versa is $10,000 there.
Don't forget when you look at the year 24, two times four, also equals eight ... So 888. 😂
I own 5088 shares of Tesla.
Sweet flex bro!
Want a medal?
Congrats…. But I would not advertise that data to anyone.
Good for you dude but I wouldn't broadcast that information
You have 900k .. wrapped up into Tesla alone …and you have time to waste posting on RUclips? Hmmm.. not sure I buy that. If true.. good for you!
You tell us they only use 1 percent of the data anyway, so why does this data make a difference ?
If you look at this in the long term, cars are going to become a commodity. Sure EV’s are too expensive, particularly in the West, but that will change and there quickly won’t be much profit in this as there will be so many cheap good EV’s.
Much better to go the SaaS model, limit your physical cars to a few desirable profitable models and licence out your software whilst keeping control of it yourself. It’s an obvious model for the long-term, it just needs the tech to evolve to a point where it’s feasible.
Cheers mate
Number #8,8,8 sounded like FULL RICHNESS and PROSPERITY FOR TESLA and LOTS OF RED POCKETS MONEY FOR ELON !!!
😉💖⚡️🔋🌞💯🌏✌️
August 8th, 8/8 (or, 8/8 for those of us here in the U.S.), is auspicious for the Chinese, and Musk is notorious for his fondness for numerical references, like that time when the base price for a Model S was $69,420.
Concentrating on BTC and Revux, with a little ETH on the side.
Would be curious to know how different the driving is in china, vs EU, US, Australia, and other countries.
Moving everything into BTC and Revux. This presale is too good to ignore!
If this is true, then the US has no excuse to use that against Chinese EVs being imported into US. China's road infrastructure is more advanced and expansive than the US and this should contribute to Tesla's FSD development.
They can’t allow it. Ford Chevy. And dodge will all go under. Big oil will suffer. But your thinking is sound😊
By 2023 law in China robo taxi need at least remote operator , robo shuttles and robo trucks need in vehicle safety operator .
It's not the data transfer thats the problem, its US protecting its car makers as it has done since 1960s, when it was clear GM and Ford cant handle free market.
Example the ban of small pick ups in US, for "safety" reason, that goes out of window right a way, old war jeeps are allowed on US roads, no doors, no seat belt, no safety.
Will America, a shameless country, keep its promise?
America, the scoundrel, will not comply.
Tesla doesn’t make decisions for the US.
Change the subject revenue down 55%! Sales slowing talk about fsd….
I’m all about presales, and Revux tops my list. Early investment is key!
Great news Sam thanks for the update
How would the 100% tariff impact this?
So the US keeps its technology more secure and the Chinese (hopefully) get reliable Tesla FSD in return.
Pretty good mutually beneficial deal.
Baidu the company the Chinese Government partnered Tesla with????
As of Q3 2022 has already done 1.4 million paid robotaxi rides
As of Q3 2023 4.1 million paid robotaxi rides
you really have to dig into multiple western media articles to gleen this real information… rather than Tesla is going there to introduce robotaxis
To me sounds like instead of Tesla FSD they will export Baidu Robotaxis App in Tesla vehicles
👇
Baidu starts offering nighttime driverless taxis
December 26, 2022
Starting this week, the public can ride its robotaxis in Wuhan between 7 am and 11 pm without safety drivers behind the wheel.
Previously, its unmanned vehicles could only operate from 9 am to 5 pm in the city.
The updated scheme is expected to cover one million customers in certain areas of Wuhan, a city of more than 10 million people. Like most autonomous vehicle startups, Baidu combines a mix of third-party cameras, radar and lidar to help its cars see better in low-visibility conditions, in contrast to Tesla’s vision-based solution.
In August, Baidu started offering fully driverless robotaxi rides, charging passengers at taxi rates.
In Q3, Apollo Go, the firm’s robotaxi hailing app, completed more than 474,000 rides, up 311% year over year.
Accumulatively, Apollo Go had exceeded 1.4 million orders as of Q3.
TC
China might allow data to the US, but will US allow it in ?!
This totally shocks me, China has an iron fist when it comes to data of any kind.
They want the FSD to copy it mostly for the robots(including military), for the first time in human history the GDP growth/workforce will be a “manufactured” and guess who has the highest manufacturing potential in the world. I will be very surprised if US government does not stop transfer such technology to China!!!
Wondering if Revux will pump before XRP. It’s got potential!
That's super awesome news! I seemed impossible.
How come I only get these news from you? Nowhere else 🧠 Nice work👍
I bet soon people will listen.
Since China insists that Taiwan is part of China, surly they should allow FSD data to be transferred to data centres there!
:-)
Also 2024... 2 x 4 = 8! It’s a stretch, but all 8’s 😆
I saw in another youtube video is also the birthday of Elons triplets.
INDIA MUST PREVENT THIS TECHNOLOGY FROM TESLA. IT HAS SERIOUS NEGATIVE NATIONAL SECURITY IMPLICATIONS. CREATE INDIAN SOFTWARE INSTEAD. IT MUST BE ONLY VALID FOR INDIA AND OTHER NATIONS MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO USE AND GAIN ACCESS TO THE COMPUTER CODES OF THE SOFTWARE.
Removing the wheel nag doesnt mean there is no nag. It is moved to the camera. That would be awesome and make it so much better
That would be so much better!
US wants target aquisition data 😂
Sheep follow, leaders lead.
Fsd is a long way away. My teslas battery will just be enough to power the auto computer.
Tesla initial Chinese FSD acceptance through the government was the most bullish information since the release of V12
It will be fun to see the American politicians interrogating Elon Musk about the security threats of Tesla's data coming from China.
Are you affiliated with the Chinese communist party?
Are you a Chinese citizen?
Are you Chinese?😂
😂😂
I like your foreword thinking, same a Elon, good on ya..........................
Foreword ? Forward ?
👍
Dr know it all knows it all is a youtube channel, where the newest versions of FSD is explained. The latest version no longer has human inputs flagging data. It is machine learning. The data is already opaque to humans.
In US it would be classified as spy EVs , a security threat.
Tesla for the win!
Brah. Rip headphones. Your audio is. Off
Tesla is going to have to share their inference FSD model with China in exchange for
Baidu the company the Chinese Government partnered Tesla with????
As of Q3 2022 has already done 1.4 million paid robotaxi rides
As of Q3 2023 4.1 million paid robotaxi rides
you really have to dig into multiple western media articles to gleen this real information… rather than Tesla is going there to introduce robotaxis
To me sounds like instead of Tesla FSD they will export Baidu Robotaxis App in Tesla vehicles
👇
Baidu starts offering nighttime driverless taxis
December 26, 2022
Starting this week, the public can ride its robotaxis in Wuhan between 7 am and 11 pm without safety drivers behind the wheel.
Previously, its unmanned vehicles could only operate from 9 am to 5 pm in the city.
The updated scheme is expected to cover one million customers in certain areas of Wuhan, a city of more than 10 million people. Like most autonomous vehicle startups, Baidu combines a mix of third-party cameras, radar and lidar to help its cars see better in low-visibility conditions, in contrast to Tesla’s vision-based solution.
In August, Baidu started offering fully driverless robotaxi rides, charging passengers at taxi rates.
In Q3, Apollo Go, the firm’s robotaxi hailing app, completed more than 474,000 rides, up 311% year over year.
Accumulatively, Apollo Go had exceeded 1.4 million orders as of Q3.
TC
The CCP should have asked for something in return…😂😂😂
No need. CCp is the richest entity in the world already.
@@linphilip6389 no it’s the US.
what are you taking about?🤣🤣🤣
@@fredericoduvel3092No unless if you mean the US govt prints money non stop.
They are trust me, they aren't stupid 😮
If you ask Elon Musk even sooner than that 😂😂😂
Classic 😊
Gonna bet Tesla has to send American data that way to get this done.
I find this very hard to believe.
That's because you're a complete 🤡
There is no pivot. This is a concession to reality. They hit a demand wall before even reaching 2 million annual sales. More importantly they likely concluded profitability would be difficult with a cheaper car. That is a concession not a pivot. These projects are not mutually exclusive.
Can’t wait for demand to skyrocket once FSD goes fully mainstream (out of beta) in US and China. I can’t see any other outcome than that.
People are heck tired of driving themselves to work in peak hour traffic wasting their lives away.
This could be a stupid question. Since FSD learns from people. If Chinese people drives recklessly, would FSD become more reckless? Or Perhaps the American data will overcome it and FSD will behave like an American driving in China.
Interesting Q. FSD will not copy bad driving. FSD learns by comparing the data /outcomes and analysing what actions will produce the best and safest result for a given situation.
Baidu the company the Chinese Government partnered Tesla with????
As of Q3 2022 has already done 1.4 million paid robotaxi rides
As of Q3 2023 4.1 million paid robotaxi rides
you really have to dig into multiple western media articles to gleen this real information… rather than Tesla is going there to introduce robotaxis
To me sounds like instead of Tesla FSD they will export Baidu Robotaxis App in Tesla vehicles
👇
Baidu starts offering nighttime driverless taxis
December 26, 2022
Starting this week, the public can ride its robotaxis in Wuhan between 7 am and 11 pm without safety drivers behind the wheel.
Previously, its unmanned vehicles could only operate from 9 am to 5 pm in the city.
The updated scheme is expected to cover one million customers in certain areas of Wuhan, a city of more than 10 million people. Like most autonomous vehicle startups, Baidu combines a mix of third-party cameras, radar and lidar to help its cars see better in low-visibility conditions, in contrast to Tesla’s vision-based solution.
In August, Baidu started offering fully driverless robotaxi rides, charging passengers at taxi rates.
In Q3, Apollo Go, the firm’s robotaxi hailing app, completed more than 474,000 rides, up 311% year over year.
Accumulatively, Apollo Go had exceeded 1.4 million orders as of Q3.
TC
People that have a functional brain will naturally build alliances with Elon.
Actually people asking for the steering wheel nag to go away may not like the result. Which will be that the internal camera will constantly require your eyes to be on the road. No more looking away for more than a couple of seconds and that only when there is no traffic around.
In other words you will have to be even more alert with your eyes on the road..... which might be more tiring on long trips than just having your hands hang on the wheel.
All these RUclipsrs with their showing routes and such on the map screen will find life difficult with this change.
Maybe - but perhaps it will be more subtle and nuanced than that. Ai presents some opportune ways of solving this problem creatively.
The only other thing more boring than an electric car would be an electric car that drives itself. I’ve rented EVs in 3 different countries and I’ve honestly tried to get excited about them but I just found them to be bland, lacking character and a bit boring to drive. But that’s just me, my friends have EVs and despite range issues are reasonably happy with their choice.
True AI does not need much data. If you have to rely on data for AI to work, that AI is constructed in interpolative mode. It knows within the boundaries of dataset but not beyond, aka the edges problems.
As a human being, I could be in Timbuktu for the very first time and I can drive on any roads in Timbuktu without any prior knowledge ( dataset) of any roads of Timbuktu.
That is because I can recognize what a drivable surface is with seemingly very small set of facts and data. Simply put, we extrapolate from facts of a small dataset when we encounter some unknown circumstances.
It seems to me the large part of population has very bad conception of what AI or AGI is and falling for “large set of data” AI. And worse, they keep talking about it.
420, 69, Numbers matter.
I have to admit that's a huge surprise to me. Why is China so cooperative with Tesla, especially after the US announced 100% EV tariffs for China?
I'd love to have the missing information that could explain this.
Their economy is crumbling and foreign firms are moving out. They need whatever they can get now so are becoming more willing to bend their old rules.
Lol @@PelleGIT
@@PelleGITaccording to IMF, their economy is growing at about 5% in 2024. Despite the speculation from the media mainly from the US, it can hardly be called crumbling especially ours is only at about 1% growth....
It's not, these pumpers just pull sh1t out of their a$$
China simply doesn't relate Elon with the US government. Good for them
musk is always trying to be the first but never have plans for scaling (solar roof, 4680, tesla energy, truck etc) he just wants to be recognized. the same with AI driving, he will probably be the first, but i bet you that he won't be the guy to industrialize it, the man child wll already be playing with some different and more shiny toys. All he does is dropping a ball, catch another one, no focus at all. Even the viking recognize that the goal of Tesla is not producing cars anymore and all it has become is a gamble. AI agent won't need a lot of data to drive correctly, 20 hours of video like any human and a text book will be enough in 2-3 years, mark my word
i remember years ago a electrical engineer saying Ai was total bs its just a scare mongering tactic because ALL electrical components are physically programmed (algorithms) or mechanisms e.g. proximity sensors. I'm not buying into all this Ai bs talk especially when 95% of the talk is coming from Elon Musk a known conman. i know a little bit how all electronics work and Ai is TOTAL BS
Oh jesus.
This is False. FSD data is still locked in China. Kernel of truth / rumor source: Limited data approved for transfer includes things like number of vehicles produced / VINs, vehicle configurations, R&D schematics, etc. (That's right: Until now, none of the R&D in China could be exported at all.)
The people of China must considered Elon as one of their own. He essentially made EVs possible.
They are going to have more data than God.
Some may consider the Chinese generally to be atheist, but they must believe in the supernatural if superstitions count as such.
Is it possible Elon does not know the meaning of 88, politically? He should stay away from that, even tho 8 is the Chinese lucky number.
Totally profit orientated now-people's car is fading in the rear view mirror!!!
You will get a 2.5 new vehicle. Done without turning off production lines for upgrades. There will be future ways to reduce cost (like the new Mexico plat).
This must be a lie. Either by the source or by this RUclipsr.
Elon for President
🚖Robotaxi 8 /8-2024 🚖
I wonder what part of his soul has Musk gave in exchange 😢
Due to the nature of the US and China, China will have FSD on the streets well ahead of the US. Win for China. And when the US does approve FSD china can sell cars in the US with FSD ahead of US automakers. If they can get the cars into the US.
Yeah, with a 100% tariff.
@danharold3087 we already have FSD in our cars here in the US. It's awesome. You should ask somebody for a ride.
@@oggyoggy1299 While it is not China's first choice. It will build factories and supply chains in Mexico or the US if it needs to to capture the North American market. The reoccurring income they get for FSD is likely to exceed the profits from the cars.
@@danharold3087 The US has already blocked the backdoor for China via Mexico. Hate to burst your bubble, but China will never sell into the US or Europe (in any major scale at least). Like their cellphones, only less developed markets will buy Chinese products.
The FSD is wonderful as a driving assistant….but not as a complete replacement. I wouldn’t trust a machine to drive me in a taxi. But I’m old. Maybe the young feel different?
I'm old too. It's facts. People s rew up a lot. Computers not nearly as much. & getting better. FSD will provide new independence for the Old , disabled and DUI . We all got drunks in the family that need constant rides.
They aren't worry at all. The knew Tesla can't compete with BYD in China.
Not with cheap car production, but Tesla are way ahead with FSD and that’s where they should concentrate. Good call by Elon, he can see car production is very quickly going to become a commodity and China are the best in the world at this.
Of course they cant compete with a state owned firm.
@@PelleGITBut Nasa cannot compete with spacex😅
@@ISuperTedFSD is level 2 mate. Not even close to its competition.
@mervstash3692 I guess the Chinese have been scammed by Tesla
So the deal is to share the results with a Chinese company? One can see that working. But otoh, if it works then China can always cut off Tesla later.
Elon Mr "Two Weeks"
" Two Weeks" is a take off of the movie Total Recall. FSD is extremely difficult to predict. It's progress obviously improving at astounding rates. If you fell for this movie clip spin off , it shows your intelligence.
@@GWAForUTBE It's an S curve. Almost impossible to predict. Judging the greatest man in the world shows your intelligence once more.
@tom-kohler AI is not an S curve. Tell me a greater man that has done more for humanity than Elon Musk.
@@GWAForUTBE I wasn't saying it to you sorry 🤣
Revux is getting a lot of attention in my crypto groups. Definitely worth watching!
Lol this is the beginning of the end. Depending on China while they’re simultaneously trying to crush you is just ridiculous.
Are you high?
One more step in China acquiring all of Tesla!s proprietary & corporate secrets.
Which Chinese company will copy the tech & which company will eventually own Tesla?
Makes no sense your comment.
@@tom-kohler you must be totally ignorant of China’s corporate theft and acquisition actions?
@@SemiDad Yes, I’m ignorant.
@@tom-kohler makes perfect sense your comment 👍
@@SemiDad of course it does
It sure didn't take Viking long to convince himself that Musk's strategy of reducing efforts to become a volume manufacturer is the way to go.
"FOR SELF-DRIVING CARS THE FREE RIDE IS OVER" See this latest article in The Verge. The NHTSA has just opened investigations into all the major companies testing autonomous vehicles incl. Tesla. This is what your next vid should be about. I think you'll find the chances of true fsd and/or any regulator approving such a system are still very remote for all the testing going on. Once this sinks in, the Tesla sp will start sinking down, down. An extended video from you on all this could do the trick.
Yeah short it. Make me laugh.
This shows true economic concern of the Chinese government. They have been desperately searching for any economic stimulus. I believe they made a wise decision.
This is not correct.
If I was doing business in China I would be more concerned about who else gets the data.
Will have all FSD data from those 20 Tesla cars sold in communist China😂😂😂
Dude seriously spreading lies now?
8th of August! Is that this year? Guaranteed?
One thing I have noticed about Elon Musk, he's big on rhetoric but low on achievement!
The one thing Elon is good at is gathering good engineers around him who are brilliant and make him look good👏
Haven’t you learned that in school? Aim for the stars so that in case you missed, you will hit the moon? The wrong thing to do is to not aim at all or to negatively limit one’s goal.
So what you are saying is hes a good businessman because who has the ability to see talent and build up from there.....
Elon is certainly overly optimistic when predicting when a milestone will be achieved, but your assertion that he is "low on achievement" is idiotic.
Don’t you know which country the software banned in China comes from? Tesla’s wishful thinking of getting the data to the United States unless the United States does not ban Huawe
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