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- The US and Chinese defense chiefs are set to hold rare direct talks in Singapore this weekend.
The expected meeting between Pentagon chief Lloyd Austin and his Chinese counterpart Dong Jun will take place at the Shangri-La Dialogue, a security forum that's become a barometer of US-China relations.
If they go ahead, they'll be the first first substantive face-to-face talks between US and Chinese defense chiefs in 18 months. It's hoped an open dialogue between two of the world's most powerful militaries will prevent confrontations in the region from spinning out of control - especially the flashpoint disputes over Taiwan and the South China Sea.
For more on this, we talk to Oriana Skylar Mastro, an expert on Chinese politics. She is currently a fellow at the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies at Stanford University and also with the Cárnegie endowment for international peace. Her book "Upstart. How China Became a Great Power" looks at how China has successfuly competed for power in the past 3 decades.
And we talk to Harrison Prétat. He is deputy director and fellow with the Asia Maritime Transparency Initiative at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.
00:00 Intro and report
04:00 Interview with Oriana Skylar Mastro
11:35 Interview with Harrison Prétat
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why is the background June 2023?
There are some guys who think that they can start ww3 and somehow contain it in a specific region, this is impossible, everyone will suffer if this really happens...
Yup, if it happens, it will spread to include the whole Indopacific
whole world
I don't thing it going well for China. Xi Jinping just had to replace his number 2 general for the CCP military. So things are getting worse within China. If there is a fight it looks like Xi Jinping has totally gutted his military.
This is why I always say The West is blind with one eye. They never see the implications that their actions could result in severe blowback. Like a child they won't believe their action have consequences and they will never admit other nations also have autonomy of action that they cannot stop or delay
...and those guys are all from the CCP.
Philippines knew media is more powerful than sword
The Philippines is using misinformation to their advantage, something the US has mastered for decades! 😅😅😅
"We'll accept your Declaration of War in the morning... Have a Good Evening." 😂😂😂
Pretty much.
👍🤣🤣
Lets guess, what will the US corruption index be after Trump was found guilty on corruption.
Mabuk ke
Lierrrrrrrr news
Singapore is always a great mediator being a neutral country
A place with American troops is neutral. Sounds like a joke.😅
世界上没有任何一个国家，能调解中美之间的问题。新加坡，不够份量
得了吧，新加坡只是一个左右逢源的墙头草，这样一个小国只能在夹缝中生存，对于世界局势无法产生影响。
你觉得可能？中美之间是国家利益之争
@@shanklandks3684 Calm down, dude. You clearly like the United States.
The disputed area belong to Taiwan (Republic of China); Treaty of Peace between Japan and the Republic of China; Signed at Taipei, April 28, 1952; Ratified July 8, 1952; Ratifications exchanged at Taipei, August 5, 1952; Entered into force, August 5, 1952;
【ARTICLE II】
It is recognized that under Article 2 of the Treaty of Peace with Japan signed at the city of San Francisco in the United States of America on September 8, 1951 (hereinafter referred to as the San Francisco Treaty), Japan has renounced all right, title and claim to Taiwan (Formosa) and Penghu (the Pescadores) as well as the 【Spratly Islands and the Paracel Islands】.
But Japan don't understand what was written is understandable whereas even the US and the West don't, I can comprehend ...😂😂😂
If that is correct. I guess most SEA nation would be willing to give it back because we know that Taiwan is more peaceful nation and they are more civilized so negotiations will be a lot better if that is the case.
@@pratt88but you got a problem , Taiwan is recognized by all the above mentioned countries as a province of PRC /China
you should know why china did not faced Philippines in the court of UNCLOS. the documentary evidences of the Philippines is overwhelming. you are only talking 1952.
@@juliousmabunay8844 For your information, all courts manned by Western counterparts are biased and weak in judgement. They are there to mislead transparency and protect the interest of the West so China knowingly noted and doesn't trust them.
The purpose of a mutual defense treaty is to deter.. If deterrance fails, then the agressor has incurred the response from the third party. If the partners in the mutual defense treaty take no action to deter, then the treaty is, in effect, a dead letter.
It’s not how likely. It’s when?
2:20 As always, DW and other western media never correctly translated what Chinese side was saying.
So what did he say exactly
@@richardchen103 He's full of it. The translation is accurate.
@julioduan... what you expect from people who accused China for collapsing for the last twenty year.
@@chrismanchin Lmao seethe
@@richardchen103 Lets guess, what will the US corruption index be after Trump was found guilty on corruption.
from my Chinese perspective, no way, who needs a war with the US right, why two countries need war right
Both countries financially depend on each other a us China war would bankrupt both countries the US and China don't have to like each other but they have to get along for their own sakes
Lol dont understimate a dictators unsatiable greed look at putler
@@lloydz7628 China actually cares about money and trade like America
The 2 issue are
On Chinas side: they need to realize their 10 dash line means nothing and the international community disapproves of Chinas claim in asean EEZ areas. They need to stop harassing the Philippines in this area. China also has to stop with land grabs with its neighbors.
The USA: needs to not be so scared to be in a world with 2 global powers. The main issue is the USA and Philippine mutual defense treaty. If China keeps pissing off the Philippines they will call on the USA to help protect their sovereignty. The USA will do this mainly to keep China in check cuz they want to be the sole super power of such a level. Does the USA have the right intentions? No. It’s doing the right thing for the wrong reason. I could go on about each country but I’ll leave it there. And no. As a us citizen I don’t want war with China. I would actually like to visit but I don’t think they would be happy with Americans even in the country
The worlds leaders are truly losing their grip on consequences.
Well, I don't know if it helps but I guess one can try
The question is as old as civilisation itself.
*War Is Inevitable*
It's not. It's preventable. There's no reason for a clash between the USA and China, especially being both nuclear powers that could drag the world into total anihilation.
No doubt when literally nobody is trying to prevent it.
Marcos: I must recover 160 billion stashed money in the US as long as I'm the president of the Philippines.
@@TheKkpop1 The Marcos Crime Family
just remember it is a European tradition to launch a war when one believes one has the advantage of the moment.
that's the whole reason why germany wanted war in 1914.
You guys didn’t do your study. The Philippine situation is unique. It’s because Chinese has a military base inside ECZ of the Philippines. Some of the Chinese base is less than hundred miles
On list of “First Targets” when China gets naughty.
You've got to set a time frame for the question. In infinite time, extremely likely. In the short term, extremely unlikely.
This is a fallacy of false dichotomy.
There exists more than two possible outcomes to the question of war between China and US.
I guess they won't be discussed war but they will talk about trade deal.
The Philippines is part of the first island chain to contain the Chinese navy.. The rest of the south east asian countries aren't. The USA also has been recently allowed to establish military bases north of the Philippines to counter China in case it finally decides to invade Taiwan. How is the 2nd expert even considered as. an experi
South China sea...Chinese submarine base at Hainan Island is built inside a mountain James Bond style. There in lies the Chinese nuclear Jin class submarines (Boomers) so the disputes in the SCS are not about fish or anything like that it's about the US having the resources to trackand destroy "Jin" class boomers before they reach the androv trench and disappear ?
Someone is banging on the door, maybe i've said to much...greetings from Vietnam
Philippine is committed to follow international laws since Indonesia and Philippines brought the issues to arbitration and international laws awarded the island to Indonesia then Philippines respect international laws decisions.
But china is different they want international laws should follow their china laws.
Every child knows that arbitration must be agreed upon by both parties
@@user-uw1uk4uw1g why you didn't come and why you use Malaysia to intimidate us instead of you?
@@user-uw1uk4uw1g China is a signatory of the international agreement which created the Permanent Court of Arbitration. By signing the agreement China gave the Permanent Court of Arbitration jurisdiction over China in international disputes coming before the court. So China gave jurisdiction over China to the Permanent Court of Arbitration and cannot avoid binding arbitration. Besides, the court applies UNCLOS as applicable law.
arbitration not law, mind you!
@@PeteHagen-sm4tn According to the relevant provisions of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, an arbitral tribunal established under the compulsory arbitration procedure of this Convention has no right to mediate or arbitrate territorial sovereignty and maritime delimitation disputes, especially after one party to the dispute refuses to accept such compulsory procedures in writing
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Depends what kina war. A kinetic one is unthinkable at any point. But other wars like economics and espionage have always been there...
I believe that espionage is in heavy use these days
2:19 JooJong Peng, woodong wayng...
unlikely. how do people constantly forget about nuclear deterrence?
Deterrence requires rational people.
Deterrence did work any more we are living in New normal God help us
Russia wasn’t swayed by said “nuclear deterrence “ when it conducted its “Special Military Operation” against Ukraine did it 😂
Deterrence didnt stop russia. Because the stakes werent that high. Taiwan being invaded would not trigger a nuclear war similarly. However it would trigger a huge conventional war.
@@verzedaany thing can happen including nuclear weapons no one knows
75%
Still hearing the giggle of professor Lyle Goldstein's reaction to The Billion Renminbi Question...
They should meet up and discuss the matter at karaoke or night club accompany by pretty hostesses.
This is how army generals or dignitaries, during the olden days settle their dispute.
Our ancestors used to smoke weed and talk for hours about life until they had a common understanding of one another. Classic peace pipe action.
Yes!! They do it in china. Its common to them.
@@raulsaria2247
It is effective and more culture. The west should learn the Chinese arts of negotiation by using soft power and in a less tense environment.
The West as usual resort to hard power which is akin to hooliganism. Time have change.
@@johnliew3437 ... Chinese arts of negotiating? I guess they just didn't feel like negotiating with the Fulan Gong or the Uygurs trying to find compromise and peaceful solutions. . . . . . . .
.... like re-education camps or literal organ harvesting? Incredible modern Chinese arts. :-)
Fulan Gong(organ harvesting) and the Uyghur people(re-education camps and forced labor).
That's how they treat their own people. Chinese nationals.
Imagine how they treat neighbors in the region....
(Tibet, what a soft power move they showed there huh?)
So amusing to see the CSIS guy trying to pick his words on why the Philippines went so loud., avoiding saying that it was the US who made the PH to do what it does now.
Not true. The Philippines has been asserting its rights even without the US.
You're mistaken. The Philippines are independent of Columbia. It even got Columbia to withdraw all its military bases.
Columbia has somewhat come back at the countenance of the Philippines. I doubt very much that Columbia bullied the Philippines in order to come back somewhat.
@@Ernesto_Che_Guevarra
phil had an agreement with China before, then phil denied it
because their president needs to assure his billions of us dollars in an us bank...
LOL
The US doesn't even need to get involved. The CCP does all the work themselves in making their neighbours hate and distrust them.
U S is power and urope country is papet
China's sea claim is ridiculous.
@@yetao5801like you?
@@touchdown8769 No............. like you.
@@yetao5801 The CCP has more border disputes than any other country on the planet. Pretty much all of their neighbours distrust them (even Russia). An independent court found that the CCP claims to the whole of the South China Sea are baseless and rooted in fiction.
In short the CCP has been lying "since ancient times".
If you're a Chinese general and you see the map of all the U.S bases in the far east and the U.S constantly threatening to block your oil shipments or ships that export stuff to the rest of the world then you'll understand why these claims even exist. It's to basically allow for the building of islands that could protect China's supply lines in the event of war.
Just like US's claim to hawaii
Words only work against people who can be reasoned with. Animals can only be tamed through a show of force.
Why don't they ever discuss how the 9-dash line was originally from the ROC (Taiwan), not the PRC? Taiwan also claims the SCS... lol
can dw actually get an asian, any asian residing in asia to provide comments about asian. its the most populous region in the world for heavens sake. cant be that difficult to get an asians point of view about asia
Supposed to be a german state tv station. But I don't hear any Germans.
What for?
To allow China open a military base near US as compensation for arms sale to Taiwan?
Red China already has de facto military bases on the soil of the U.S.A. They're just in hybrid-warfare form right now. They're zero-day military bases.
Like in Nicaragua!?!?
To let China supply weapons to Texas for supporting its independence.
Lloyd Austin has such a "quality"
Even though the title is technically accurate, it doesn't exactly convey what it sounds like is happening with these "direct talks."
If these two men aren't actually counterparts and the Chinese official holds no power and therefore can not actually make any agreements, then this is some variety of theatre.
China doesn't make any real effort to mend the relationship and gets to make up whatever narrative about this meeting it decides to to the various audiences they have or are trying to get.
All that said, Austin still has to go there and make a genuine attempt at being good faith and hope China is interested in doing the same.
Don't
Meeting to set expectations when SHTF
America should try china missile to see is it working or not ?
China can send something to the moon /build space station.. do it still need to demo ?
PH, Indonesia and Malaysia as majority population of Austronesian should reclaim Taiwan as part their ancestral land.
welcome.
these 3 countries just said TW is part of China literately
PH's foreign minister said it few days ago, and said they will stay out if there's a civil war in China
LOL
What are you? Ehailing driver or pag pag seller
@@level1selamat155 learn history about "Hundred Yue" in Chinese history.. where descendants of Malay or Austronesian people come from.. Ancient Han chinese mentioned about ancient people in Southern China were fully body tattoos culture, blackening their teeth, practice animism and master of metallurgy and sailing technology.. which pin point to Austronesian cultures.. I suggest to you look at minority native poeple in Southern China which related to people in Southeast Asia people today.
@@ColoniaMurder20胡說八道
"Chaos is a ladder." Some other countries may think. But they'll probably be the front line victim if there's a US - CN clash
The meek shall inherit the earth.
Nine Das line doesn't exist. Fall in line exists....
Nine dash lies
Albert Einstein once said he does not know how ww3 will be fought but ww4 will be fought with sticks and stones
Chinas Nine Dash lies
Philippine sovereignty and its EEZ is non-negotiable.
China says the same things!
@@huanghermann5207 nice 👍
Only greedy materialistic people could say that..
Philippine and Sovereignty shouldn't appear in the same sentence 😂😂😂
@@jackoh5134 🤣It is a state of US
Be careful what you wish for.
It's 2024 now, mate!
sounds like a neutral guest you have, DW
To unify Taiwan with mainland is driven by every Chinese living around the world. It is the historical justice.
Nope no way
When you discuss Asian pacific issues, why DW News does not invite experts with Asian descent so you can get a different perspectives.
"flew into the Batty Channel"
Is this quality of China expert policy analyst 😂 lol
You can pick any person of Chinese descent off the streets of Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur or Singapore and he or she will know more than those so-called China's experts. 😂😂😂😂
At least she didn’t predict China will collapse in 2 weeks.
@@brianliew5901
Really you are the expert on your own country as what you said.
@@user-st3im5ge7f If you don't understand yourself, who would? The alien from outer space?
@@brianliew5901It is interesting that your friends know about you,but you don’t know yourself. You’re alien to yourself.
Existential and largely military strategic issue not like Filipino fisherman livelihood issue
So he is like a Chinese "Isoroku Yamamoto", except the Chinese Minister never been to the US to understand their future adversary!
We better hope is sth. of Shoigus kind...corrupt to the core!
Problem started way back when they asked China to "open door" policy. Now we faced the consequences.
Kissinger knew there would be consequences.
Do we really need more wars or is it high time to end those which have already been waging/raging? Shouldn't we evolve in a different direction instead of regressing? Hopefully, nobody replies with: Hamas, Hamas, Hamas. The answer is not so simple.
"U.S being dragged into conflict" is the funniest thing I've read all week. Like they were dragged into Iraq, Afghanistan, vietnam, korea, Libya... poor America being forced into all these conflicts against their will😂
china will never go to wat with usa over taiwan
If the us is keen on talking about south china sea and taiwan their is no talk.
I dont think anyone asked you tbh😂
The interviewer does not understand what is the problem about ? Is it journalist jargon the way he asks questions or he really doesn’t understand shot ?
Australia went through a period of China won’t answer the phone nonsense, when Australian pushed for an international inquiry into the source of Covid-19.
If the US really cares about the Philippines. Why dont they conduct Military exercise in the South China Sea? creat a buffer to Philippines EEZ?
On what legal basis though ?
The dispute near the Philippines is about the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Philippines according to international law.
Xi Jinping of China has just fired the number 2 General within the CCP military. China is no shape right now to fight any type of war.
@@huanghermann5207another bot spreading misinformation
Hypocrisy
Tiger Strike 2024 Bilateral Training Exercise noted .🇲🇾🇺🇸
A war with China is also a war with whole of Southeast Asia. Most of Southeast Asian modern post-war economies from Bangkok to Jakarta and Manila were built by industrialists of Chinese descent with Singapore, a majority ethnic Chinese city-state as financial hub. This will affect sizeable part of world population.
As the Western economies are in shambles, it's the intention by the US and the West to disrupt the economy of the SEA countries in order to compensate theirs.
America and China have built their economies off each other there will never be a US China war because it would cripple both economies
The US, please do not create a mess in the Asean region. Asean countries can settle issues with China. Peace and not war.
@@choonhockong8215 They are all here to disrupt the rising economy of Asean, unfortunately with the help of Philippines.
a war with southeast asia? what are you talking about? southeast asia isnt exactly impressed with chinese attitude in that region.. in fact Manila/Philippines is a strong ally of USA.
Well you all seem to get it wrong!
Any war vs China will be fought by countries AS WELL AS THE US eg UK, France, Australia, Japan, etc!
France said it won't get involved.
In terms of the Philippines, there is a legitimate mutual defence treaty that would need to be followed unless the US wants to be seen as an unreliable country by the international community. The treaty is pretty iron-clad. In regards to other countries, like Taiwan, I have no say.
I doubt that these countries will join the fight, because China is almost unbeatable now, as long as it has more/advanced ( nuclear ) weapons.
@@DD-wx4jc
Well they are!
Spending only 1% of GDP on its military, Philippines shows little intention of defending their rights.
Should the US help a nation that does not help itself??
Not true. Philippines has been spending and fighting for its rights.
Their last president rolled out the red carpet for China to steal more of their territory, which speaks a lot about their intention to defend their rights. Now they expect the US to protect them.
are you clueless? lol. Confrontations with China happen all the time in the South China Sea. We're receiving more and more multi role fighters from Sweden and South Korea, dozens of Coast Guard ships from Japan, new Navy ships from South Korea, Indonesia, France, and Australia, India just recently delivered their brand new Brahmos hypersonic missiles which is the fastest in the world, Israel delivered brand new artillery and radar systems, a few months ago the UK delivered brand new assault rifles for the army. There's so much more going on. To say we show little intention is insane when we're always confronting China every day and procuring new military equipment every month. We already have a modernization framework in place and we're sticking to it for the foreseeable future.
Xi Jinping of China has just fired his number 2 General within the CCP military. Things are not going well within China.
A country that need to buy assault rifles from UK wants to win a conflict with China? Be proud for your courage.
Perhatikan siapa lawan USA sebenarnya udang dibalik batu sebelum hancur😊
If the USA never had the military , airforce. and navy it does. we would all be speaking Chinese. , Russia and Arabic. now !.....
Vietnam/Philipine/Malaysia/Indonesia/Thailand/Laos/Cambodia.... they all don't have strong military. they don't speak Chinese either, and they live very well.
You are a funny liar.
@@MrBdoleagle Only naive people. trust. others .. You obviously are a. a PRO CCP BOT
@@MrBdoleagle Indonesia has a military tradition going back to the 1950s.
Thank God General Milley is not going!
Im with the Philippines. All the way brothers and sisters.
They definitely don't speak the same language. Isn't that a no-brainer? But they can compare notes at how they're screwing the Philippines over because they're doing a good job in that department.
To US, it's an entertainment.
To China, it's a waste of time.
To both, it's a mind game.
To the rest, it's an excitement of power and strength.
8:20 the trolls here thu trying to rock the boat of phi😂
The americans most loose against Great China in south china sea without any delay , said analysts !!! Period .
Will European countries joined us if it start like Germany ? 🇪🇺
Phillippens and Taiwan are their own Nation. Aiming for their own sovereignty, self determination that a nation is a natural ideal basis for polity rightful source of political power. These countries further aims to build and maintain a single national identity.
Marcos made Philippines a legendary fool in history as the first and only country in the world allowing a foreign force to occupy 9 war military bases in its motherland.
Taiwan is not a nation but an island province of China which the Taiwanese themselves acknowledge.
Philippine is a sovereign state, but Taiwan is not.
you're way too old to see the end of any.
Here is the catch. When Taiwan is legally part of China, shouldn't self determination involve the Chinese people as well?
What dogs (PH, Taiwan DPP) can do other than barking?
Have you eaten your breakfast with pangolin skin and bat soup?
cry more
A dog won't bark if there's no thief 😏
Even dogs don't eat gutter oil 😂
Even dogs don't eat sewer oil 😂
as likely as how the US wishes to defend its hegemonic status
Both are Evil but Better USA than Communist China. Lmao
We dont want china talking with the us, we like china and russia together.
American dollar dominated is peace in the world
Interfere
So much for the “Cold War”
I wish we didn't need Chinese products. Bye Walmart bye Dollar Tree
We dont want to be dictated to by autocratic. countries where there is no opposition ! Unfortunately we have to fight against these. types.
theus lady says taiwan are in the top win against china what planet its she born ????????
If the US is not playing with fire in the South China Seas and Taiwan, there will be peace in these regions. The US is not a part of the Asean region. Please stay at home to provide better care of homeless people in the US.
You 50 cent man, did they pay well? You should ask for more.
Silly boy, Hawaii is a pacific island in the Pacific Ocean. It’s definitely in the US interest to be the Arsenal and long arm of democracy. 🫡🇺🇸
She’s part of the political problem. She over generates her position and others to engage in talks. That have gone no where! People like her got paid for no results. Explain that to a factory employee.
Whether there will be a conflict between the PH and China is decided by the US, similar to Ukraine. When the US needs an excuse to beat China, the PH will use the opportunity to fight against China.
Begging each other not to go for war😅😀😆🤣😃😄😂🤑
Taiwan is fast becoming a real life Corto Maltese -_-
The world should be paying more attention on Gaza.
I just came back from Philippines and im see all chinese goods and machinery
Shangri-la is ours.
Excellent lady guest and program. Thank you. (finally, someone who knows something)
You Guys are not Credible
China don't waist your time not good will come out of any meetings with the US: If Asian leaders want peace in the region the USA most live , The USA is not a force for peace.
Will I still have to go to work if China invades Taiwan?