1. Seriously, Brilliant is brilliant and the free stuff on the site is really cool. Check it out @t and you can still get the discount if you want more! 2. Errata: D'oh! A12Z. Verbal typo!
Rene Ritchie I was literally just thinking for the first time “I wonder if anyone has done a fight between MacBook Pro and iPad Pro yet”. And it turns out you posted less than an hour ago! What great luck!
I currently own the 2017 model 12.9 inch iPad Pro and I was kind of hoping the 2020 iPad Pro would come with an A14x 5nm processor but it didn't. Do you think an A14x 5nm processor iPad Pro will be possible fall of 2020 or next year 2021.
The rare camera set up in iPhone 11 and iPad Pro 2020 is not the same. Wide angle camera sensor is 1.4 um per pixel as compare to 1.22 in iPad Pro 2020.
Ramesh Kumar Sorry, I’m accustomed to people degrading each other in the comment section. It’s sad because you never know when someone is making a comment in jest or if they’re being disingenuous.
I used to have that setup but I only used my PC for gaming and iPad Pro for everything else. Then I wanted multi tasking, Apple continuity, Mouse and keyboard all in one device, plus the gestures of macOS. I ended up getting a MacBook Air so I can have a computer on the go. Then I was using my MacBook Air more than my iPad Pro, so I gave my iPad Pro to my niece and upgraded my Air to 16 Pro.
I have a 16gb Lenovo x1 carbon i7 and a gen 1 iPad Pro 9.7. I swear most of the time the iPad feels faster and more capable than the Lenovo even tho there’s no way it should. I HATE pc bulk
This has become the tech review channel on RUclips. Not only because every review is well organized and going into great detail, but Rene is about the only one who emphasizes that the right choice is based on the user’s needs. Thank you for providing great reviews!
I love both my iPad Pro and MacBook Pro! I couldn’t chooce one at the moment, but in the future I can see myself only using the iPad once more pro apps come to it.
I love my iPad Pro 12.9”. I’m watching this video on it as an iPad, although I use it for work as what is effectively a great laptop. Great comparison Rene.
Wow! You literally took my confusion away! Other videos, just confused me more! You’re way too good at this! Thank you so much! I know what I want now!
Even before watching I’ll come straight out and say iPad Pro all the way!!!! The Magic Keyboard has completely transformed the way I use my iPad in every way! I only have 3 gripes, which I hope they can fix. 1. External display support needs to get better. 2. I want to be able to use Google Hangout or Zoom fully featured ie. share my screen and be able to multitask while having video on and 3 give the option to have the arrow as the cursor like on the Mac for some apps. The best example of this is Keynote where sometimes I have to draw fine lines and neither my finger or the circle can pick precisely choose the line when I want.
Zach Guibergia when moving fast in Keynote and needing to select multiple things it’s too hard to use the Pencil always. It’s not ideal to have to use the keyboard, trackpad and pencil for such a common task. :)
Unfortunately this is how business works, apple want you to buy both. Why would they make full featured apps etc on iPadOS, their macbook revenue will seriously suffer. I have an imac for my desk and 13” macbook for portability without app/software limitations. More expensive this way but having no limits you have to pay top dollar for. I also find the iPad pro with smart folio keyboard top heavy and uncomfortable to work on the couch.
I went for the iPad Pro 11” 2018 256gb for 650 via Apple refurbished.... seems like one of the best deals available at the moment .... tablet looks brand new and you still get warranty and can add Apple care etc ✌️
I own a 2018 iPad Pro and a (early) 2015 MacBook Pro. I like the iPad, but I love my MacBook. Call me old fashioned (I'm 60 after all) and my very first piece of tech I ever bought (outside of a gaming system) was an Apple //c computer in 1985 and had a career as a computer programmer. I NEED a real keyboard and the laptop form factor and all that comes with it. I just do.
It feels like Apple may be bringing Xcode to the iPad. This would be an ideal combination for the iPad + Magic Keyboard. I would like to see you provide content around this topic. Thanks
@@erionskanal1 ARM chips are hard to work with. It's like progressing backwards. ARM chips has a lot of limitations. What's good with ARM chips though is they're not power hungry which can make a macbook last for days.
@@erionskanal1 The good: -The instruction set is far better than x86 (three-operand with far more versatility than x86). It's far more complex than x86, but in a very good way. The more research you do, the more you'll find this is true. I could list five dozen things about the instruction set here, but I won't--it's more fun to go through the list and keep telling yourself "wait, it can do this?" A preview though: every single instruction is conditional and comes with a free shift. -The chips are phenomenally low-size and low-power, so they're cheap and you can get a lot of them easily. They require much less overhead hardware than x86. -NEON is awesome! See 1). -Every instruction is 4 bytes, making instruction decoding never a bottleneck. See 1). The bad: -They're only just now getting modern features like out of order execution. The Cortex A9 is roughly the same speed per clock on scalar code as a Pentium 4. This is pretty pathetic. It's impressive when you think of the size of the chip, but it is really sad IMO that they haven't released a larger version of their chip that isn't ALU-bottlenecked, for netbooks and such. -The clock speeds are rising, but are still pretty low. Multicore chips aren't out yet. -Compilers for ARM seem to suck, especially GCC, which is orders of magnitude more braindead on ARM than on x86. I don't doubt there could be performance improvements of 20%+ just by making GCC stop emitting redundant loads, stores, and moves (the last of which should almost never be needed on a three-operand architecture). And by fixing its loop unrolling heuristic on ARM, which is incredibly braindead (it never considers partial unrolling and is far too aggressive). GCC is also completely incapable of correct stack alignment on ARM, forcing you to either use unaligned accesses for all NEON loads off stack objects, or force every single temporary data hunk into the heap. -NEON instructions, while powerful, are nowhere near as fast as you'd be used to if you wrote x86 SIMD. Often you need fewer instructions (things like vtrn make life incredibly easy), but overall don't expect too much. -Cortex A9, in order to fit in all the new features and not increase die size too much, dumped dual-issue for NEON. Idiots. -There are no instructions in NEON that Do Tons of Stuff Really Fast, like psadbw and pmaddubsw on x86. -While NEON in general has equal to or better SIMD than x86 in terms of the versatility of its instructions, a few critical x86 SIMD instructions are missing, like pmovmskb, which cannot be easily emulated. -The interaction between NEON and ARM is a bizarre FIFO system with latencies as high as 20+ clocks between the two. It's painful. Mans Rullgard, ffmpeg ARM guru) has some blogs on the topic. Cortex A9 fixes a lot of this. -Linux kernel support is fucking awful; you need half a dozen patches just to make things usable (NEON register support, unaligned access support, gdb support for NEON registers, making useful instructions not privileged, etc). -People keep calling it RISC. It's not RISC, folks. It's far more complicated than x86 in every sense of the term; it has single instructions that will load up to 16 values from memory or push/pop multiple registers off the stack, for example. Complex instructions are a good thing when implemented intelligently. Also, being load/store does not make something automatically RISC. Don't abuse the word. -Every instruction is 4 bytes. This means you can't have large constant memory offsets (which, given gcc's incredible inability to add constants to pointers to reduce struct offset sizes, drastically reduces efficiency of memory access to large structs). This 4 byte requirement also means ARM binaries are often larger than x86 binaries; not a good thing on CPUs with so little instruction cache. Thumb-2 resolves most of this, but GCC still sucks at it.
The background is great! It looks like a bar, where you're going to grab a drink and upon request, the barman is gonna tell you which hardware to buy. So cool.
@@apoorvamukhija3740 ive had my ipad pro 2018 for over a year now and ive come to love ipados more than windows, macos, and chrome os and when i have to use a real laptop i hate it since they all feel super slow in comparison to the ipad- the screens dont hold up, the chipset rarely holds up, and the software optimisation doesnt hold up. i have never once had my ipad glitch or stall or be incapable of handling heavy duty stuff. i cant say the same for a traditional laptop and the apple pencil is a really nice touch. the files app is genuinely better than file management on any traditional laptop too. the only thing i wish it could do is run macos apps. though i can almost always find an alternative and ive only ever had to switch to a traditional computer less than 10 times in the year ive had it. overall i really dont have any real complaints;aunts and when its time for me to upgrade, probably in 4 years since this thing isn't slowing down anytime soon, i think the ipad pro will be a top contender. windows is out of the question because ipados really blows it out of the water in terms of actually using it, macos is skating on thin ice and the only reason that ice is there is because if i didnt go with macos id have to go with chrome os. and ipados is my preferred option now.
Hi sir. I have just a query. I want to buy iPad Pro 2020 or MacBook Pro. Please guide me which should I buy. I need for my presentation slides on projector , transfer files from usb drive and net surfing & day to day office work. Thanks!!
iPad Pro all the way! I get my Magic Keyboard tomorrow! The BIGGEST plus for me is with the cellular models you NEVER have to worry about Wi-Fi or using your phone to hotspot. Influencers don’t talk about that AMAZING point enough. iPad Pro is the future!!!!
Jeremy Rounds how much do yo pay for that cellular data plan? Monthly. And how frequently do you find yourself without access to WiFi? I think both answers enlighten why “nobody” cares. Its a 0.05% scenario
Ricardo Valdés I pay $20 per month added to my current cellular plan. As I am an on the go type of guy I only find decent Wi-Fi about 30% of the time and you include the time I spend in a car but more than that you have a much higher level of security using cellular data than companies that offer free Wi-Fi as anybody can hack those networks relatively easy. In addition, using cellular enabled iPads means I don’t have to drain my cellphone battery trying to use cellular for both my phone and iPad. 😄👍🏼
I was literally just thinking for the first time “I wonder if anyone has done a fight between MacBook Pro and iPad Pro yet”. And it turns out you posted less than an hour ago!
Manuel Gonzalez Parra this literally is the topic of every second video on Mac tech. And Daily tekk also does this comparison quite a bit. And a bunch of tech youtubers do it. Anyway these are almost completely different products. It’s like comparing a station wagon to roadster
I’ve watched a lot of videos comparing the iPad to the MacBook Air and 12” MacBook but I was specifically wondering for the new MacBook Pro and new iPad Pro. Mostly, the new MacBook Pro is being compared to the air and other laptops, but I do think that iPad Pro can compete with it for some people.
Sad. After watching this I still can’t pick. I wish iPad had Logic, and Final Cut Pro. A better file system wouldn’t hurt then it would be an easy decision.
I have been an iPad as my main computer since the original iPad Pro. I’m just now upgrading to the iPad Pro 12.9 with the magic keyboard here as soon as it arrives. For my use case it’s just about perfect. I can do everything I need to get done on it and all of these big software improvements are really helping it close the gap I think.
I am interested in iPad Pro but I think it’s not capable of running Adobe software like Photoshop, Premiere Pro, Illustrator. I have to wait till full software support comes.
Shabih Bhatty Photoshop I believe they have a fullish version on it and Affinity is a legitimate full blown desktop photoshop alternative. LumaFusion is a full blown video editor. Illustrator I think there are a few options to look at? Sorry for my ignorance, I can’t draw anything other than stick figures. But you should take a look at some of those to see if they might be viable options :)
As a 13” 2018 MacBook Pro and the 2018 iPad Pro - I feel it to be a no brained (unless as you mentioned one needs specific software) - iPad Pro all the way! Only on very rare occasions do I currently use my MacBook Pro. In the office I opted for a standard Mac wireless keyboard and on the go - I feel the “old” iPad folio keyboard does just fine and keeps my carry light. Thanks for another awesome video, Dave
Having this serious problem today. I've been editing videos and photos on my desktop and Macbook Air. I haven't decided if i'm gonna purchase a mac book pro 2020 or a Ipad pro. There is alot of difference between the two. Mac book pro gives me a all in one use for editing softwares which the mac book air can't handle. But the user experience of making digital art, Editing and alot more for ipad pro. This video helped me think clearly because I want to put my money on something I can use all the way without regrets.
Since I already have a MacBook Pro 15 inch I opted to go with the 12.9 inch iPad Pro switching from an 11 inch iPad Pro I think they both have their functions. I’m mainly on my iPad every once in a while I still use my computer which is quite old I must say but it still works.
I have owned multiple iterations of both form factors, if you will. I have chosen (and love) the iPad Pro 12.9” with the new Magic Keyboard. As Rene points out, there are compromises with both (and all) platforms. I need a portable computer to be as adaptable as possible, and the iPad Pro provides that in spades. It’s at once a content consumption device, a computer, a notepad in a meeting, a sketchbook, a gaming platform, a book... the list goes on. From the iPad 2 way back when, I looked forward to this day and age where I could actually use my iPad for everything. I realize that can’t be done with everyone’s job, but I’m thankful it can be with mine!
Thanks to your continuous analysis, I went to the iPad Pro route: I changed my super simple iPad 5th gen for an iPad Pro 11" 2018 and next I'll swap my super loyal MacBook Pro 13" 2015 for a desktop: not sure yet if an iMac or a Mac Mini... thanks for all the great work and congratulations for your new channel...
It was your wrap-up that convinced me the choice was obvious. I looked at my desk at home and realized I already had a very capable Mac. The iPad Pro was the obvious choice to compliment the capability I already had. Initially, that was a tough call because I am an engineer; my portable computing needs probably run counter to what most iPad users do with their equipment. Surprisingly (to me) the 12.9" iPad Pro was a better match than I expected. Great job in this video; you are an excellent presenter.
Exactly... I thought the same thing while watching this video... You need both I already have a MacBook Pro (2011) yes I need to update that too, but for now I could buy the IPad Pro... Not sure which size though... I want to do filming/editing ... that is why I was considering the IPad Pro
Judi Christopher it’s awesome to have both, but it’s $$$. I’ve been saving for the iPad Pro since the 2018 model came out. I got a 2020 model 1 week ago. Totally recommend it. You’re not missing much and it’s rly cool to have all the applications on the App Store and the tablet like experience of the iPad. If you want to spend less on a keyboard, totally recommend the Logitech slim folio pro 👍🏻
Judi Christopher I got the 2020 12.9 inch iPad Pro 256gb from the Apple eduction store for 999$ (I’m a student, but they don’t even check 😂) I paired it with a Logitech slim folio pro (also on apples website). That goes for about $120. After tax it was $1200 for both
I’m typing this as we speak on my new iPad pro 12.9 in that came in the mail today. I decided to go all in instead of a MacBook Pro and so far I can get all my work done on this device. I work mostly in a browser so this was perfect. I saved some money and found a device I enjoy using.
I’m deciding between the iPad Pro 11 or 12.9. Upgrading from a 10.5 I love the portability but I feel like the 12.9 will help with productivity and trying new creative apps but the size makes me look at the pro 11. Then again .5 inches is not a much of a difference but the 12.9 just seems to big but I like it. Just wish they made a 12” one to settle my 🧠.
Agree with your analysis. It really isn’t a question of either or, but how they complement each other. I have the 16” as my main computer mostly stationed at home with a large external monitor and keyboard, and then my 11” iPad Pro for maximum portability. Best of both worlds used interchangeably and complementary depending on situation...
Let’s see, if I’m sitting in a conference room with colleagues (one day) and I plug my MacBook Pro into the 85” 16:9 aspect monitor, I actually get a 16:9 image. But when I plug my $1,500 12.9” iPad Pro connected to its $350 keyboard, I get a 1990’s 4:3 aspect image. Hmmmmm, decision decisions, hmmmm...
Had a MacBook from 2007 (remember the 17") until 2018, at which point I switched to an iPad Pro and a Mac mini. I went with the Mac mini to preserve my investment in Thunderbolt (2) displays and the iPad for it's cellular connectivity. What would I like to see? MacOS on my iPad with full support for external monitors.
I have a 2016 13" macbook pro and a 2018 11" iPad Pro in my backpack. 90%+ of the time I reach in my backpack to get my macbook. This is even though both could do the job I was looking to do. I think it is the form-factor.
I’m so happy I’m not the only one who has been going through this lol. Just picked up the IPad Pro for my girl and I’m going to grab one for myself now. Such a fantastic device.
Every time I hear you I think of Captain Kirk from the 60s and 70s talking as captain in Star Trek breaking up words and of course speaking with intellect it’s amusing keep on keeping on👍🏻☺️😄
Idk, I feel like the right answer is buying... both. MacBook Pro and the $329 iPad. They’re made for completely different things, and making iPad’s more pro has just meant making them more like a laptop.
I’m digging my 12.9 iPad Pro w the Magic Keyboard!! Macbooks apps are very limited for my personal use. I enjoy consuming multimedia and the apple app store is King!!
A 'brilliant' video, as always, Rene, thank you :-) As for me, it seems MBP is my way to go (please, chip in folks if you have another view). I produce lots of PPs, and regularly using multiple browsers and tabs at the same time, do lots of typing producing documents... To me, that seems to point to MBP territory (I already have a 2017 MBA and it's struggling at times with all this going on at the same time). Thoughts are most welcome. Thanks again :-)
For me the iPad Pro with the new keyboard does everything I need to do and then some, and the benefit of an always there LTE connection to serve as a backup for when my lousy home internet goes wacky on me or for when on the go is essential. If I were to get a traditional computer, it would be just for the sake of having it, and I’d probably be better off with an iMac rather than a MacBook, since I watch a lot of media and would prefer the larger screen.
For what it’s worth, I ordered the 10th Gen 13 MacBook Pro, and plan on selling my 2018 iPad Pro to partly fund the cost. I am a teacher and the iPad Pro worked great as my primary device when I was in the classroom full-time. Teachers walk around a lot in their day, and the iPad was really portable, and comfortable using while standing. Now that we’re all doing online learning, the software deficiencies of the iPad’s ecosystem have become too much of a weight on productivity while sitting at a desk. Which is better? As always: depends on your circumstances. But now many of our circumstances don’t leverage the extra portability of the iPad any longer.
If I HAD to choose.....MBP for windows management, file management, and connectivity to various peripherals. That being said having both is way to go if you can swing it. Nice video.
First of all CONGRATS on your excellent new channel. I admire your incredible knowledge of the products. I love your presentation and would give it a 9.98 out of 10. The one thing I’m not thrilled about is the feeling that’s it’s fast paced talking. It feels like you are rushing through it. Maybe because you are trying to fit in as much info as you can in a period of time, IDK. There should be pauses inserted in order for the viewers to be able digest the info. A good example would to watch major network anchors presenting the news. Apart from that I love it. Good luck
I like composing and concepting on iPad Pro and publishing and polishing on a Mac. Both serves a purpose but I don’t think one replaces the other for my creative professional use.
Totally depends on your use case. I still pretty much use my iPad as a media consumption device. I am not near as productive using it for business applications (those that are available or even approved by my business). MacBook Pro still totally is more efficient to get stuff done imo. Sure it isn’t as cool and a talking point...but for “money making” it serves my purpose. The iPad is a nice companion. Also, I don’t have to pay a ridiculous $300 for a darn keyboard/trackpad.
After buying a HP with a touchscreen and never using touch, but immensely enjoying the touchscreen on my iPad Air 2, I’m going with the iPad Pro. Add the Magic Keyboard and I won’t need anything more for school.
Even though I’m pretty sure someone already brought this up, but I feel that the iPad Pro is a better competitor for the MacBook Air. TBH if it wasn’t for torrents and the lack of compatibility/functionality with the files app I would be able to exclusively use my IPad Pro 12.9in and never touch my MacBook Pro 15in.
I am in the exact same situation here. Torrents is a priority for me and even though the iPad pro is the better media consumption device in my opinion. The Macbook provides the better overall user experience in a fully fledged MacOS
Justin Hoskins for torrent on iPad, I think there is a workaround you can look into... iTorrent by xitrix... I haven’t personally tried it, but it may be worth a shot
i agree; this is a healthy choice. though i purchased my ipad pro before this video, i am glad i did. i currently also use a 2013 macbook air as well as a custom PC at work. i wanted to swap out my macbook air, but the ipad made more sense. it has since been a great “force multiplier” over the past 2weeks.
Great review - informative, witty, and fun. I do stand-up, write books and screenplays and have a podcast and RUclips channel. I ended up going in three directions. I have a 16" MacBook Pro I use for video editing, a 13" MacBook Air I use for trips to the coffeeshop and a 12.9" iPad Pro I take with me for its sheer versatility. The cameras on the iPad Pro leave the Macs in the dust.
Honestly if you don’t have any specific apps you need on MacOS, you would absolutely be better off with an iPad. It’s just so much more fun to use abs every bit as capable at the typical laptop stuff like browsing the web, listening to music, playing videos and much better at games (well... depends). So I would suggest people get the iPad as default and only get a MacBook if they really need it. I have the iPad Pro 11 for my college and I don’t even need the magic keyboard because as it is it’s super capable!
As a video editor, editing the occasional 4K but usually 1080p video, and the desire for desktop features and experience for file management... which do you anticipate being a better buy for me? Im torn between the iPad Pro and new 13 MBP.
Macs still have more traditional, powerful NLEs like Premiere, Resolve, and Final Cut, plus more RAM and SSD space, which is why I stick with a Mac for editing. I know a lot of people like editing on the iPad though, so a lot will depend on how you feel and what capacity you need.
@@thoughtsofthunder I am working on 4K video projects of around 40 minutes each with a bit of colour grading, different sound sources and cameras, a lot of sound and music adjustments and adding music. As I do it on 1 place only, I've went with an iMac. The internal capacity, file management, screen size and performance to cost ratio are the main reason I've chosen so.
Most people really don't need a laptop at this point unless its for super specific softwares. I run my businesses from a tab s6 (was 12.9" iPad Pro user until a few months ago and it works fine for all communication, document management, and my accounting work. iPad is definitely the more exciting and fun hardware and provides a somewhat magical experience assuming the iPadOS store has you covered
iPad Pro for sure.. I have a MacBook Air and 10.2 iPad with Apple keyboard folio and Apple Pencil with a Magic Mouse two and use it more than my MacBook
I have a 15inch 2018 MacBook Pro and a 12.9 inch 2020 iPad Pro, waiting on the magic keyboard next week (using Smart Keyboard for now). For all my general computing needs the iPad Pro is my go to. I even use it for some pro stuff like video editing with LumaFusion. But I do need to run windows apps sometimes for work and need to use more than one screen at work too (I’m a freelance digital project manager) and then only the MacBook will do. I love both, I could totally live with just a MacBook, but I love using the iPad, it feels like the future.
I do bootcamp, AAA games and Vr on my MacBook Pro 16. I can't possibly consider an iPad as a replacement for a computer. Not enough flexibility. Its getting there, but stil...
I have a 2017 iPad Pro that I have been dying to find an excuse to replace with the newest iPad Pro and a magic keyboard. Instead I just received my MacBook Pro 13" (2020) to replace my wonderful, yet aging, 2014 MacBook Pro. I was hanging on to it until Apple resolved the keyboard issue. I have so many times gone on trips only with the iPad, in the hopes of being able to get the things I need to do done efficiently. Not possible. Every single time I have had to borrow someone else's MacOS or Windows machine to get my email newsletter out or complete some other task that is either impossible on iOS or intensely frustrating. It is such a joy to sit here and work on the MacBook and then later go consume media and read email on the iPad. As much as I would love to have that new iPad in my hands, I can't justify it. This MacBook Pro is a joy.
Excellent video - The iPad is increasingly my main machine, as it brings so much more flexibility (currently the 2018 iPad Pro 11). The magic keyboard is a huge step forward (the extra charging port, backlit keys and trackpad) and also love the pencil input. Better support for an external display would be great. Instead of a new MacBook Pro in a few years, I consider changing to a basic MacMini for those Mac OS functionalities I may still need...
Just get a camera for your MacBook Pro. GarageBand has more features than the iOS version for guitar and EDM drums in my opinion. It won't refresh your Safari tabs so you won't always have to sign back into your work or school accounts. Just get a Mac and save money. But if you have extra money to spend an iPad Air will do the job for those things mentioned.
This is exactly why Apple is smart in distinguishing features between the MacBook and iPad Pro models, so buying both will get you all the features you want. My list of important (to me) features are: Exclusive to iPad • High quality camera systems • Apple Pencil support • Detachable keyboard • Face ID for Unlock/Apple Pay Exclusive to MacBook • Full-function keyboard with function key control in a Touch Bar • Final Cut Pro/Logic X with all features • Larger (16”) display option • Support for more than two windows of the same program/app (you can have as many Pages documents open at the same time) At the same time, I’m waiting for the iPad Pro to get updated to the A14 chip (not because the current A12Z is slow, but for future proofing sake) and waiting for Wi-Fi 6 and the latest gen chips on the MacBook Pro 16” so I can’t buy either device right now. The first-world-struggle is real!
Just think of all the software you will need to use. If there is one that can’t run on the iPad you’ll need a laptop. The chip architecture is different enough that some devs can’t port over laptop apps to the iPad. I’m a scientist and would to fully transition to the iPad but unfortunately there are a lot of graph fitting and plotting softwares that only comes on the laptop. When it comes to teaching I can set everything up using only my iPad. It even lets me draw the diagrams I need! Love it. I can tell from other videos that devs has started development on video and photo editing. So I’m certain those professionals can substitute their work using the iPad. As you said in your video, It ultimately comes down to developers to make the apps needed to cover all kinds of apps for all kinds of work.
Nice comparison. It would be great to see how each handles making a video with multiple tracks of 4K footage, using LumaFusion on the IPadPro and FCPX on the MBP. I would find a real world test like this really useful.
Getting my iPad Pro (2018) 11” this week. It’s gonna be my main workhorse. My old MacBook Pro (2017) will be my backup if I really need a proper os for anything
I'm not sure how relevant this is in your comparison, but in one sense the iPad is more modular. There is therefore an element of extensibility to the iPad that is not possible with the MacBook. I am thinking specifically of the keyboard dock and the smart connector. If for example you should spill coffee on your keyboard it would be game over on the MacBook. However this would be less of a problem on the iPad. It would still suck, but at least you would not have to replace the whole system.
I am planning on getting the full set of accessories but it’s more expensive than a Mac book pro, that’s the only thing that’s keeping me from buying it. Is it anyway bothering not having a MacBook in the aspect of work, what I mean is have you not been able to do something that you would’ve been able to do in the Mac book? Sorry for all the questions btw, been trying to decide for weeks while watching videos in comparison
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1. Seriously, Brilliant is brilliant and the free stuff on the site is really cool. Check it out @t and you can still get the discount if you want more!
2. Errata: D'oh! A12Z. Verbal typo!
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I was literally just thinking for the first time “I wonder if anyone has done a fight between MacBook Pro and iPad Pro yet”. And it turns out you posted less than an hour ago!
What great luck!
I currently own the 2017 model 12.9 inch iPad Pro and I was kind of hoping the 2020 iPad Pro would come with an A14x 5nm processor but it didn't. Do you think an A14x 5nm processor iPad Pro will be possible fall of 2020 or next year 2021.
Earth is flat XD
The rare camera set up in iPhone 11 and iPad Pro 2020 is not the same.
Wide angle camera sensor is 1.4 um per pixel as compare to 1.22 in iPad Pro 2020.
I love how genuine your channel feels. This is truly all the best of you. Indie suits you. Congratulations!!
Hugo L IlExpecting a heart from him ?? 🤣🤣
Ramesh Kumar Can’t someone give a compliment without expecting anything in return?
Shawn Williams Hey , it was a friendly fun pulling his leg. Don’t take seriously please. Thank you 🙏🏻
Ramesh Kumar Sorry, I’m accustomed to people degrading each other in the comment section. It’s sad because you never know when someone is making a comment in jest or if they’re being disingenuous.
Shawn Williams yes , I understand. thanks for sharing. Won’t comment next time
My MacBooks pro is working at home and my iPad Pro is working in my office I love both
I’m thinking about pairing the my iPad Pro with the new MacBook Pro. Which configuration of the MBP did you get?
@@Tburna02depends on ur budget my friends
@@joshuaaxelio7631 leaning towards the $1799 config
Antwon Jones that should be more then fine for anything u do.
I am trying to get MacBook pro 13 inch + ipad pro .... but what do you suggest for the ipad pro. 11 inch or 12.9 inch ??
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Brilliant! In that sword of Damocles way!
RUclips’s new comment system SUCKS!
Taylor Albaugh what’s new?
Legority you have to go through a drop down menu to access comments now. At least on my phone that’s how it is.
@Taylor Albaugh: iphone or android and r u using the web instead of the app?
Bubbles.Vibesss iPhone and using the phone app
Taylor Albaugh : dang i updated buh ion got the drop down
The best combination is a powerful windows PC plus a iPad Pro with the magic keyboard
I used to have that setup but I only used my PC for gaming and iPad Pro for everything else. Then I wanted multi tasking, Apple continuity, Mouse and keyboard all in one device, plus the gestures of macOS.
I ended up getting a MacBook Air so I can have a computer on the go. Then I was using my MacBook Air more than my iPad Pro, so I gave my iPad Pro to my niece and upgraded my Air to 16 Pro.
Same here
I have a 16gb Lenovo x1 carbon i7 and a gen 1 iPad Pro 9.7. I swear most of the time the iPad feels faster and more capable than the Lenovo even tho there’s no way it should. I HATE pc bulk
@@dedclownsRfunny Linux is the answer. :)
This has become the tech review channel on RUclips. Not only because every review is well organized and going into great detail, but Rene is about the only one who emphasizes that the right choice is based on the user’s needs. Thank you for providing great reviews!
Lol, i want both now 🤣
“720p POTATO of a FaceTime camera” that got me 😂
I love both my iPad Pro and MacBook Pro! I couldn’t chooce one at the moment, but in the future I can see myself only using the iPad once more pro apps come to it.
I love my iPad Pro 12.9”. I’m watching this video on it as an iPad, although I use it for work as what is effectively a great laptop. Great comparison Rene.
Any regrets yet? 👀
READTHISIFURDUMB Nope, it’s the best computing device I’ve ever owned.
Wow! You literally took my confusion away! Other videos, just confused me more! You’re way too good at this! Thank you so much! I know what I want now!
Even before watching I’ll come straight out and say iPad Pro all the way!!!! The Magic Keyboard has completely transformed the way I use my iPad in every way! I only have 3 gripes, which I hope they can fix. 1. External display support needs to get better. 2. I want to be able to use Google Hangout or Zoom fully featured ie. share my screen and be able to multitask while having video on and 3 give the option to have the arrow as the cursor like on the Mac for some apps. The best example of this is Keynote where sometimes I have to draw fine lines and neither my finger or the circle can pick precisely choose the line when I want.
Agree 100%!! Also why not use the Apple Pencil in the case? Does it not work when you draw?
I have been saying this for 2 years now... external display to be extended or mirror... please apple do it in ipad os 14”
Zach Guibergia when moving fast in Keynote and needing to select multiple things it’s too hard to use the Pencil always. It’s not ideal to have to use the keyboard, trackpad and pencil for such a common task. :)
Rogeh truly agree,I also wish for a full feature zoom
Unfortunately this is how business works, apple want you to buy both. Why would they make full featured apps etc on iPadOS, their macbook revenue will seriously suffer. I have an imac for my desk and 13” macbook for portability without app/software limitations. More expensive this way but having no limits you have to pay top dollar for. I also find the iPad pro with smart folio keyboard top heavy and uncomfortable to work on the couch.
I went for the iPad Pro 11” 2018 256gb for 650 via Apple refurbished.... seems like one of the best deals available at the moment .... tablet looks brand new and you still get warranty and can add Apple care etc ✌️
I own a 2018 iPad Pro and a (early) 2015 MacBook Pro. I like the iPad, but I love my MacBook. Call me old fashioned (I'm 60 after all) and my very first piece of tech I ever bought (outside of a gaming system) was an Apple //c computer in 1985 and had a career as a computer programmer. I NEED a real keyboard and the laptop form factor and all that comes with it. I just do.
Love the versatility of my ipad 12.9 (2020) with the Magic Keyboard and Apple Pencil.
It feels like Apple may be bringing Xcode to the iPad. This would be an ideal combination for the iPad + Magic Keyboard. I would like to see you provide content around this topic. Thanks
Devs would shy away from ARM chips. I'll tell you that.
Ralph Klein Guevarra why?
@@erionskanal1 ARM chips are hard to work with. It's like progressing backwards. ARM chips has a lot of limitations. What's good with ARM chips though is they're not power hungry which can make a macbook last for days.
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The good:
-The instruction set is far better than x86 (three-operand with far more versatility than x86). It's far more complex than x86, but in a very good way. The more research you do, the more you'll find this is true. I could list five dozen things about the instruction set here, but I won't--it's more fun to go through the list and keep telling yourself "wait, it can do this?" A preview though: every single instruction is conditional and comes with a free shift.
-The chips are phenomenally low-size and low-power, so they're cheap and you can get a lot of them easily. They require much less overhead hardware than x86.
-NEON is awesome! See 1).
-Every instruction is 4 bytes, making instruction decoding never a bottleneck. See 1).
The bad:
-They're only just now getting modern features like out of order execution. The Cortex A9 is roughly the same speed per clock on scalar code as a Pentium 4. This is pretty pathetic. It's impressive when you think of the size of the chip, but it is really sad IMO that they haven't released a larger version of their chip that isn't ALU-bottlenecked, for netbooks and such.
-The clock speeds are rising, but are still pretty low. Multicore chips aren't out yet.
-Compilers for ARM seem to suck, especially GCC, which is orders of magnitude more braindead on ARM than on x86. I don't doubt there could be performance improvements of 20%+ just by making GCC stop emitting redundant loads, stores, and moves (the last of which should almost never be needed on a three-operand architecture). And by fixing its loop unrolling heuristic on ARM, which is incredibly braindead (it never considers partial unrolling and is far too aggressive). GCC is also completely incapable of correct stack alignment on ARM, forcing you to either use unaligned accesses for all NEON loads off stack objects, or force every single temporary data hunk into the heap.
-NEON instructions, while powerful, are nowhere near as fast as you'd be used to if you wrote x86 SIMD. Often you need fewer instructions (things like vtrn make life incredibly easy), but overall don't expect too much.
-Cortex A9, in order to fit in all the new features and not increase die size too much, dumped dual-issue for NEON. Idiots.
-There are no instructions in NEON that Do Tons of Stuff Really Fast, like psadbw and pmaddubsw on x86.
-While NEON in general has equal to or better SIMD than x86 in terms of the versatility of its instructions, a few critical x86 SIMD instructions are missing, like pmovmskb, which cannot be easily emulated.
-The interaction between NEON and ARM is a bizarre FIFO system with latencies as high as 20+ clocks between the two. It's painful. Mans Rullgard, ffmpeg ARM guru) has some blogs on the topic. Cortex A9 fixes a lot of this.
-Linux kernel support is fucking awful; you need half a dozen patches just to make things usable (NEON register support, unaligned access support, gdb support for NEON registers, making useful instructions not privileged, etc).
-People keep calling it RISC. It's not RISC, folks. It's far more complicated than x86 in every sense of the term; it has single instructions that will load up to 16 values from memory or push/pop multiple registers off the stack, for example. Complex instructions are a good thing when implemented intelligently. Also, being load/store does not make something automatically RISC. Don't abuse the word.
-Every instruction is 4 bytes. This means you can't have large constant memory offsets (which, given gcc's incredible inability to add constants to pointers to reduce struct offset sizes, drastically reduces efficiency of memory access to large structs). This 4 byte requirement also means ARM binaries are often larger than x86 binaries; not a good thing on CPUs with so little instruction cache. Thumb-2 resolves most of this, but GCC still sucks at it.
“Clamshell” makes it sound ancient.
The background is great! It looks like a bar, where you're going to grab a drink and upon request, the barman is gonna tell you which hardware to buy. So cool.
9:19 should be A12Z, right?
Anyway, thank you so much, I decided to get the iPad Pro with magic keyboard.
do you regret it?
@@apoorvamukhija3740 nope, been using it for 2 weeks, no complaints at all. Really feel like I am using a laptop.
@@MrJoshuapoon i have the 11 what one did you get buddy
@@apoorvamukhija3740 ive had my ipad pro 2018 for over a year now and ive come to love ipados more than windows, macos, and chrome os and when i have to use a real laptop i hate it since they all feel super slow in comparison to the ipad- the screens dont hold up, the chipset rarely holds up, and the software optimisation doesnt hold up. i have never once had my ipad glitch or stall or be incapable of handling heavy duty stuff. i cant say the same for a traditional laptop and the apple pencil is a really nice touch. the files app is genuinely better than file management on any traditional laptop too. the only thing i wish it could do is run macos apps. though i can almost always find an alternative and ive only ever had to switch to a traditional computer less than 10 times in the year ive had it. overall i really dont have any real complaints;aunts and when its time for me to upgrade, probably in 4 years since this thing isn't slowing down anytime soon, i think the ipad pro will be a top contender. windows is out of the question because ipados really blows it out of the water in terms of actually using it, macos is skating on thin ice and the only reason that ice is there is because if i didnt go with macos id have to go with chrome os. and ipados is my preferred option now.
Thanks Rene! I was literally having this debate with my girlfriend today- iPad or MacBook. Then magically, this video appears in my feed.
Siri is spying on you..
Hi sir. I have just a query. I want to buy iPad Pro 2020 or MacBook Pro. Please guide me which should I buy. I need for my presentation slides on projector , transfer files from usb drive and net surfing & day to day office work. Thanks!!
iPad Pro all the way! I get my Magic Keyboard tomorrow!
The BIGGEST plus for me is with the cellular models you NEVER have to worry about Wi-Fi or using your phone to hotspot. Influencers don’t talk about that AMAZING point enough.
iPad Pro is the future!!!!
Jeremy Rounds how much do yo pay for that cellular data plan? Monthly. And how frequently do you find yourself without access to WiFi? I think both answers enlighten why “nobody” cares. Its a 0.05% scenario
Ricardo Valdés I pay $20 per month added to my current cellular plan. As I am an on the go type of guy I only find decent Wi-Fi about 30% of the time and you include the time I spend in a car but more than that you have a much higher level of security using cellular data than companies that offer free Wi-Fi as anybody can hack those networks relatively easy. In addition, using cellular enabled iPads means I don’t have to drain my cellphone battery trying to use cellular for both my phone and iPad. 😄👍🏼
Jeremy Rounds sounds like a plan man 👍🏼 you are one of those cases. Just consider a 4 year usage iPad results in a iPad price+960usd at the end 😃
I was literally just thinking for the first time “I wonder if anyone has done a fight between MacBook Pro and iPad Pro yet”. And it turns out you posted less than an hour ago!
Manuel Gonzalez Parra this literally is the topic of every second video on Mac tech. And Daily tekk also does this comparison quite a bit. And a bunch of tech youtubers do it. Anyway these are almost completely different products. It’s like comparing a station wagon to roadster
I’ve watched a lot of videos comparing the iPad to the MacBook Air and 12” MacBook but I was specifically wondering for the new MacBook Pro and new iPad Pro. Mostly, the new MacBook Pro is being compared to the air and other laptops, but I do think that iPad Pro can compete with it for some people.
Sad. After watching this I still can’t pick. I wish iPad had Logic, and Final Cut Pro. A better file system wouldn’t hurt then it would be an easy decision.
You are my go to apple product review keep it up and keep doing the videos
I have been an iPad as my main computer since the original iPad Pro. I’m just now upgrading to the iPad Pro 12.9 with the magic keyboard here as soon as it arrives. For my use case it’s just about perfect. I can do everything I need to get done on it and all of these big software improvements are really helping it close the gap I think.
That's terrific, glad you're loving it!
I am interested in iPad Pro but I think it’s not capable of running Adobe software like Photoshop, Premiere Pro, Illustrator. I have to wait till full software support comes.
Shabih Bhatty Photoshop I believe they have a fullish version on it and Affinity is a legitimate full blown desktop photoshop alternative. LumaFusion is a full blown video editor. Illustrator I think there are a few options to look at? Sorry for my ignorance, I can’t draw anything other than stick figures. But you should take a look at some of those to see if they might be viable options :)
I love my iPad pro I was surprised... the OS is just limiting of course. Literally the only thing that makes me also need the computer
As a 13” 2018 MacBook Pro and the 2018 iPad Pro - I feel it to be a no brained (unless as you mentioned one needs specific software) - iPad Pro all the way! Only on very rare occasions do I currently use my MacBook Pro. In the office I opted for a standard Mac wireless keyboard and on the go - I feel the “old” iPad folio keyboard does just fine and keeps my carry light. Thanks for another awesome video, Dave
I think that having an iMac or a relatively cheap Macbook with a monitor alongside an iPad pro is the perfect combo for multitasking.
Having this serious problem today. I've been editing videos and photos on my desktop and Macbook Air. I haven't decided if i'm gonna purchase a mac book pro 2020 or a Ipad pro. There is alot of difference between the two. Mac book pro gives me a all in one use for editing softwares which the mac book air can't handle. But the user experience of making digital art, Editing and alot more for ipad pro. This video helped me think clearly because I want to put my money on something I can use all the way without regrets.
Fred Noblesala how is video editing on MacBook air? And what model do you use? Thanks!
Since I already have a MacBook Pro 15 inch I opted to go with the 12.9 inch iPad Pro switching from an 11 inch iPad Pro I think they both have their functions. I’m mainly on my iPad every once in a while I still use my computer which is quite old I must say but it still works.
I have owned multiple iterations of both form factors, if you will. I have chosen (and love) the iPad Pro 12.9” with the new Magic Keyboard. As Rene points out, there are compromises with both (and all) platforms. I need a portable computer to be as adaptable as possible, and the iPad Pro provides that in spades. It’s at once a content consumption device, a computer, a notepad in a meeting, a sketchbook, a gaming platform, a book... the list goes on. From the iPad 2 way back when, I looked forward to this day and age where I could actually use my iPad for everything. I realize that can’t be done with everyone’s job, but I’m thankful it can be with mine!
Thanks to your continuous analysis, I went to the iPad Pro route: I changed my super simple iPad 5th gen for an iPad Pro 11" 2018 and next I'll swap my super loyal MacBook Pro 13" 2015 for a desktop: not sure yet if an iMac or a Mac Mini... thanks for all the great work and congratulations for your new channel...
It was your wrap-up that convinced me the choice was obvious. I looked at my desk at home and realized I already had a very capable Mac. The iPad Pro was the obvious choice to compliment the capability I already had. Initially, that was a tough call because I am an engineer; my portable computing needs probably run counter to what most iPad users do with their equipment. Surprisingly (to me) the 12.9" iPad Pro was a better match than I expected. Great job in this video; you are an excellent presenter.
I bought both I couldn't pick I love the way they work together
Exactly... I thought the same thing while watching this video... You need both
I already have a MacBook Pro (2011) yes I need to update that too, but for now I could buy the IPad Pro...
Not sure which size though... I want to do filming/editing ... that is why I was considering the IPad Pro
Judi Christopher it’s awesome to have both, but it’s $$$. I’ve been saving for the iPad Pro since the 2018 model came out. I got a 2020 model 1 week ago. Totally recommend it. You’re not missing much and it’s rly cool to have all the applications on the App Store and the tablet like experience of the iPad. If you want to spend less on a keyboard, totally recommend the Logitech slim folio pro 👍🏻
Ya i have both too haha, 2018 ipad pro and 2019 MBP
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Thank you for your reply... This helps a lot.
Which size did you get??
This will be for work...
Judi Christopher I got the 2020 12.9 inch iPad Pro 256gb from the Apple eduction store for 999$ (I’m a student, but they don’t even check 😂) I paired it with a Logitech slim folio pro (also on apples website). That goes for about $120. After tax it was $1200 for both
Finally. The REAL matchup.
I’m typing this as we speak on my new iPad pro 12.9 in that came in the mail today. I decided to go all in instead of a MacBook Pro and so far I can get all my work done on this device. I work mostly in a browser so this was perfect. I saved some money and found a device I enjoy using.
My iPad Pro 12.9 is my favorite decided. I just bought a new magic keyboard and its amazing.
Javier Vazquez Definitely a good choice mate!
Perfectly done, bravo! I’m a huge iPad advocate and believe it’s the future and you done it proper justice! Thank you!
Very nice, comprehensive comparison 👌
I went iPad Pro.... Glad I did!! I just miss Ableton Live which is the only reason my windows machine is still hanging around 👍🏻
You can install Paralles and get rid of your windows machine.
I’m deciding between the iPad Pro 11 or 12.9. Upgrading from a 10.5 I love the portability but I feel like the 12.9 will help with productivity and trying new creative apps but the size makes me look at the pro 11. Then again .5 inches is not a much of a difference but the 12.9 just seems to big but I like it. Just wish they made a 12” one to settle my 🧠.
Agree with your analysis. It really isn’t a question of either or, but how they complement each other. I have the 16” as my main computer mostly stationed at home with a large external monitor and keyboard, and then my 11” iPad Pro for maximum portability. Best of both worlds used interchangeably and complementary depending on situation...
Let’s see, if I’m sitting in a conference room with colleagues (one day) and I plug my MacBook Pro into the 85” 16:9 aspect monitor, I actually get a 16:9 image. But when I plug my $1,500 12.9” iPad Pro connected to its $350 keyboard, I get a 1990’s 4:3 aspect image. Hmmmmm, decision decisions, hmmmm...
iPad Pro 12.9 “ + magic keyboard, love it!
I upgraded from 10.5 iPad Pro to a 12.9 iPad Pro, 4th gen, best decision I’ve made haven’t even scratch the surface to what it has to offer!
I did the same.
Amazing experience.
Clara RICHARDSON It’s truly an amazing device. You’ll continue to find new capabilities for some time to come. Enjoy!
Had a MacBook from 2007 (remember the 17") until 2018, at which point I switched to an iPad Pro and a Mac mini. I went with the Mac mini to preserve my investment in Thunderbolt (2) displays and the iPad for it's cellular connectivity. What would I like to see? MacOS on my iPad with full support for external monitors.
I have a 2016 13" macbook pro and a 2018 11" iPad Pro in my backpack. 90%+ of the time I reach in my backpack to get my macbook. This is even though both could do the job I was looking to do. I think it is the form-factor.
This was a great video. No bias at all. I love both MacOS and iOS dearly so it's a hard choice for me. My next purchase will be the iPad Pro.
I’m so happy I’m not the only one who has been going through this lol. Just picked up the IPad Pro for my girl and I’m going to grab one for myself now. Such a fantastic device.
The updated speakers only come in the $1700 for the MacBook Pro though.. right?
Every time I hear you I think of Captain Kirk from the 60s and 70s talking as captain in Star Trek breaking up words and of course speaking with intellect it’s amusing keep on keeping on👍🏻☺️😄
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Lapdown!
Idk, I feel like the right answer is buying... both. MacBook Pro and the $329 iPad. They’re made for completely different things, and making iPad’s more pro has just meant making them more like a laptop.
I’m digging my 12.9 iPad Pro w the Magic Keyboard!! Macbooks apps are very limited for my personal use. I enjoy consuming multimedia and the apple app store is King!!
A 'brilliant' video, as always, Rene, thank you :-) As for me, it seems MBP is my way to go (please, chip in folks if you have another view). I produce lots of PPs, and regularly using multiple browsers and tabs at the same time, do lots of typing producing documents... To me, that seems to point to MBP territory (I already have a 2017 MBA and it's struggling at times with all this going on at the same time). Thoughts are most welcome. Thanks again :-)
Agree. OSX’s ‘virtual desktop’ allows multiple browser sessions in full-window appearance just a swipe away.
For me the iPad Pro with the new keyboard does everything I need to do and then some, and the benefit of an always there LTE connection to serve as a backup for when my lousy home internet goes wacky on me or for when on the go is essential. If I were to get a traditional computer, it would be just for the sake of having it, and I’d probably be better off with an iMac rather than a MacBook, since I watch a lot of media and would prefer the larger screen.
For what it’s worth, I ordered the 10th Gen 13 MacBook Pro, and plan on selling my 2018 iPad Pro to partly fund the cost. I am a teacher and the iPad Pro worked great as my primary device when I was in the classroom full-time. Teachers walk around a lot in their day, and the iPad was really portable, and comfortable using while standing. Now that we’re all doing online learning, the software deficiencies of the iPad’s ecosystem have become too much of a weight on productivity while sitting at a desk. Which is better? As always: depends on your circumstances. But now many of our circumstances don’t leverage the extra portability of the iPad any longer.
iPad Pro vs MacBook Pro - by Rene Ritchie ft. WWDC jacket rustling lol!
D'oh, I should have fixed that.
All good. I’m an audio engineer so those small details really stick out to me haha 😂
I was going to comment and thought, I’ll have a look because I can’t be the only one that noticed. 😋 still a great video as always Rene
If I HAD to choose.....MBP for windows management, file management, and connectivity to various peripherals. That being said having both is way to go if you can swing it.
Nice video.
First of all CONGRATS on your excellent new channel. I admire your incredible knowledge of the products. I love your presentation and would give it a 9.98 out of 10. The one thing I’m not thrilled about is the feeling that’s it’s fast paced talking. It feels like you are rushing through it. Maybe because you are trying to fit in as much info as you can in a period of time, IDK. There should be pauses inserted in order for the viewers to be able digest the info. A good example would to watch major network anchors presenting the news. Apart from that I love it. Good luck
I would take the ipad pro being that it's more versatile of the two.
Still want to dip my toe into MacOS but haven't done so yet. One day.
Take one of Greg’s laptops! He bought for everybody apparently!
I like composing and concepting on iPad Pro and publishing and polishing on a Mac. Both serves a purpose but I don’t think one replaces the other for my creative professional use.
Totally depends on your use case. I still pretty much use my iPad as a media consumption device. I am not near as productive using it for business applications (those that are available or even approved by my business). MacBook Pro still totally is more efficient to get stuff done imo. Sure it isn’t as cool and a talking point...but for “money making” it serves my purpose. The iPad is a nice companion. Also, I don’t have to pay a ridiculous $300 for a darn keyboard/trackpad.
After buying a HP with a touchscreen and never using touch, but immensely enjoying the touchscreen on my iPad Air 2, I’m going with the iPad Pro. Add the Magic Keyboard and I won’t need anything more for school.
Even though I’m pretty sure someone already brought this up, but I feel that the iPad Pro is a better competitor for the MacBook Air. TBH if it wasn’t for torrents and the lack of compatibility/functionality with the files app I would be able to exclusively use my IPad Pro 12.9in and never touch my MacBook Pro 15in.
I am in the exact same situation here. Torrents is a priority for me and even though the iPad pro is the better media consumption device in my opinion. The Macbook provides the better overall user experience in a fully fledged MacOS
Justin Hoskins for torrent on iPad, I think there is a workaround you can look into... iTorrent by xitrix... I haven’t personally tried it, but it may be worth a shot
Zbigz can help you torrent
I have an iPad Air 3, how much better is the 2020 iPad Pro?
The iPad Pro camera is great excluding when docked on the keyboard for sure!
I've been weighing this up so thanks Rene, it will be iPad pro for me.....
Nice!
i agree; this is a healthy choice. though i purchased my ipad pro before this video, i am glad i did. i currently also use a 2013 macbook air as well as a custom PC at work. i wanted to swap out my macbook air, but the ipad made more sense. it has since been a great “force multiplier” over the past 2weeks.
Great review - informative, witty, and fun. I do stand-up, write books and screenplays and have a podcast and RUclips channel. I ended up going in three directions. I have a 16" MacBook Pro I use for video editing, a 13" MacBook Air I use for trips to the coffeeshop and a 12.9" iPad Pro I take with me for its sheer versatility. The cameras on the iPad Pro leave the Macs in the dust.
Honestly if you don’t have any specific apps you need on MacOS, you would absolutely be better off with an iPad. It’s just so much more fun to use abs every bit as capable at the typical laptop stuff like browsing the web, listening to music, playing videos and much better at games (well... depends). So I would suggest people get the iPad as default and only get a MacBook if they really need it. I have the iPad Pro 11 for my college and I don’t even need the magic keyboard because as it is it’s super capable!
As a video editor, editing the occasional 4K but usually 1080p video, and the desire for desktop features and experience for file management... which do you anticipate being a better buy for me?
Im torn between the iPad Pro and new 13 MBP.
A Video Editor needs to have access to real editing software. So MacBook Pro.
Macs still have more traditional, powerful NLEs like Premiere, Resolve, and Final Cut, plus more RAM and SSD space, which is why I stick with a Mac for editing. I know a lot of people like editing on the iPad though, so a lot will depend on how you feel and what capacity you need.
Rene Ritchie good insight. Thanks Rene!
@@thoughtsofthunder I am working on 4K video projects of around 40 minutes each with a bit of colour grading, different sound sources and cameras, a lot of sound and music adjustments and adding music. As I do it on 1 place only, I've went with an iMac. The internal capacity, file management, screen size and performance to cost ratio are the main reason I've chosen so.
Most people really don't need a laptop at this point unless its for super specific softwares. I run my businesses from a tab s6 (was 12.9" iPad Pro user until a few months ago and it works fine for all communication, document management, and my accounting work. iPad is definitely the more exciting and fun hardware and provides a somewhat magical experience assuming the iPadOS store has you covered
iPad Pro for sure.. I have a MacBook Air and 10.2 iPad with Apple keyboard folio and Apple Pencil with a Magic Mouse two and use it more than my MacBook
Get both and have them work together with Sidecar! Two screen working for the win. Nice!
I have a 15inch 2018 MacBook Pro and a 12.9 inch 2020 iPad Pro, waiting on the magic keyboard next week (using Smart Keyboard for now). For all my general computing needs the iPad Pro is my go to. I even use it for some pro stuff like video editing with LumaFusion. But I do need to run windows apps sometimes for work and need to use more than one screen at work too (I’m a freelance digital project manager) and then only the MacBook will do. I love both, I could totally live with just a MacBook, but I love using the iPad, it feels like the future.
Still can’t believe the iPad Pro is competing against the beast of tech MBP. I love my iPad Air 3nd gen and my mbp 2015 retina
I do bootcamp, AAA games and Vr on my MacBook Pro 16. I can't possibly consider an iPad as a replacement for a computer. Not enough flexibility. Its getting there, but stil...
I have a 2017 iPad Pro that I have been dying to find an excuse to replace with the newest iPad Pro and a magic keyboard. Instead I just received my MacBook Pro 13" (2020) to replace my wonderful, yet aging, 2014 MacBook Pro. I was hanging on to it until Apple resolved the keyboard issue.
I have so many times gone on trips only with the iPad, in the hopes of being able to get the things I need to do done efficiently. Not possible. Every single time I have had to borrow someone else's MacOS or Windows machine to get my email newsletter out or complete some other task that is either impossible on iOS or intensely frustrating. It is such a joy to sit here and work on the MacBook and then later go consume media and read email on the iPad. As much as I would love to have that new iPad in my hands, I can't justify it. This MacBook Pro is a joy.
Excellent video - The iPad is increasingly my main machine, as it brings so much more flexibility (currently the 2018 iPad Pro 11). The magic keyboard is a huge step forward (the extra charging port, backlit keys and trackpad) and also love the pencil input. Better support for an external display would be great. Instead of a new MacBook Pro in a few years, I consider changing to a basic MacMini for those Mac OS functionalities I may still need...
Could you do an iPad Air vs IPad Pro?
The video was great 👍
Which the iPad Pro will easily beat 😀
Just get a camera for your MacBook Pro. GarageBand has more features than the iOS version for guitar and EDM drums in my opinion. It won't refresh your Safari tabs so you won't always have to sign back into your work or school accounts. Just get a Mac and save money. But if you have extra money to spend an iPad Air will do the job for those things mentioned.
This is exactly why Apple is smart in distinguishing features between the MacBook and iPad Pro models, so buying both will get you all the features you want.
My list of important (to me) features are:
Exclusive to iPad
• High quality camera systems
• Apple Pencil support
• Detachable keyboard
• Face ID for Unlock/Apple Pay
Exclusive to MacBook
• Full-function keyboard with function key control in a Touch Bar
• Final Cut Pro/Logic X with all features
• Larger (16”) display option
• Support for more than two windows of the same program/app (you can have as many Pages documents open at the same time)
At the same time, I’m waiting for the iPad Pro to get updated to the A14 chip (not because the current A12Z is slow, but for future proofing sake) and waiting for Wi-Fi 6 and the latest gen chips on the MacBook Pro 16” so I can’t buy either device right now. The first-world-struggle is real!
Just think of all the software you will need to use. If there is one that can’t run on the iPad you’ll need a laptop. The chip architecture is different enough that some devs can’t port over laptop apps to the iPad. I’m a scientist and would to fully transition to the iPad but unfortunately there are a lot of graph fitting and plotting softwares that only comes on the laptop.
When it comes to teaching I can set everything up using only my iPad. It even lets me draw the diagrams I need! Love it.
I can tell from other videos that devs has started development on video and photo editing. So I’m certain those professionals can substitute their work using the iPad.
As you said in your video, It ultimately comes down to developers to make the apps needed to cover all kinds of apps for all kinds of work.
iMac 27 as Desktop in use > seriously thinking on replacing old MBPro with iPad pro as described here ...
My top question is, will I be able to use apps such as Microsoft word or PowerPoint without running out of battery??? Disregarding everything else
i am just worried about the microsoft office apps and apple business apps. Will they perform same as mac ?
Nice comparison. It would be great to see how each handles making a video with multiple tracks of 4K footage, using LumaFusion on the IPadPro and FCPX on the MBP. I would find a real world test like this really useful.
that was a comprehensive comparison...thank you a lot for sharing... liked and subscribed...
Getting my iPad Pro (2018) 11” this week. It’s gonna be my main workhorse. My old MacBook Pro (2017) will be my backup if I really need a proper os for anything
had a mac book pro should i switch to the ipad? how has it been as your main workhorse?
iPad Pro. More versatile. 🤷🏻♂️
Great videos, Rene. Love your output rate. It’s crazy!
I'm not sure how relevant this is in your comparison, but in one sense the iPad is more modular. There is therefore an element of extensibility to the iPad that is not possible with the MacBook. I am thinking specifically of the keyboard dock and the smart connector. If for example you should spill coffee on your keyboard it would be game over on the MacBook. However this would be less of a problem on the iPad. It would still suck, but at least you would not have to replace the whole system.
Glad I have enough to spend on both. iPad for writing, doodling, Netflix and traveling. Macbook for everything else.
can you do a FIGHT between the base model MBP 13 and 10th gen one? I would REALLY appreciate that video. Thanks!
I bought the 12.9 iPad Pro and let me tell you, it’s is the best purchase I have ever made
Kouyen'dou N'Da mine is on the way! Sorry excited! Got the magic keyboard here waiting for it.
Oh, nice! Glad you're enjoying it!
I was looking for this video! Lucky or unlucky, I ordered ipad pro with magic keyboard.
was it worth it?
Yeah! That’s what I needed! Very portable and efficient for writing activities.
Thanks, probably going to get the ipad pro soon, still deciding if the Macbook pro is better or not
I used MacBook Pro 2018. Didn’t find it that much convenient for me. Pencil and trackpad can make this iPad more fun.
I am planning on getting the full set of accessories but it’s more expensive than a Mac book pro, that’s the only thing that’s keeping me from buying it. Is it anyway bothering not having a MacBook in the aspect of work, what I mean is have you not been able to do something that you would’ve been able to do in the Mac book? Sorry for all the questions btw, been trying to decide for weeks while watching videos in comparison
Very clear and precise and true to the point differences. Excellent work man
Best of luck in your new journey, Rene! Only after bold moves comes greater good! Wish you the best for your new channel! Remember never to lose your RUclips style, it really makes you unique amid the rest!
I wonder what's next with the iPad Pro. You should make a video about that if you haven't already.