DOOM'S CANCELED DOOM SLAYER!
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- Doom's characters originally had much more interesting designs, like the militaristic Doom Slayer!
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It would've been cool if they included this version of the suit in DE as skin. The lore behind it could be that the ARC were trying to design their own version of the Slayer's Praetor suit.
an idea i once had was the UAC trying to study/copy/even steal Sentinel tech and attempt their own Slayer
that could at least be a plot for a Doom 6
That could work, similar to how the Cultist and Maykr skins have implied lore
@@HordeModeGaming do they? What's their lore?
Doom Guy played Titanfall on his DoomBox 9000 and got inspired to make this piece
Yeah.
The Ipad Hayden design is how I imagined VEGA would looked like as a robot before his voice went through puberty in Ancient Gods 1
That would honestly be a pretty solid Vega design
Bro they did Vega so dirty in the DLCs, pulling that bullshit out of their ass of him being god
He was the best character so much so even the slayer stopped his rip and tearing to save the guy
He also kinda looks like he rolls up into a cylinder to roll places.
@@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 in the base game in Urdak, Vega does ask Haden if he’s the Father when Slayer plugs him into the teleport control thing
@@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 nah the lore checks out, samuel hayden was the seraphim who stole god, and him making a super intelligent ai out of nowhere seems pretty out of place except when you realise its an advanced being. Even samuel's lines are the exact same in 2016 and eternal when he gives the slayer "a gift"
Doom Slayer killing the Night Sentinel feels like trying to get the coin from them in Eternal
Kinda similar, yeah
ipad hayden looks like the robot that works at amazon and has depression
Ipad Hayden looks so goofy🤣
I know 😂
It's hilarious!
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Imgaine that thing holding the crucible and being the main antagonist
Hayden being this goofy friend-shaped thing would have fit 2016's UAC so well.
I'm glad they went with something more serious though, he's a great character lol
Friend shaped is an apt description
That Hayden design that kinda resembles a revenant looks cool ngl. Curious what explanation would’ve been given to such look
Maybe his human elements would've been stored inside the robot, that could've been cool
Samuel Hayden's friendlier design looks like a phone that gained sentience 🤣
It does dude 🤣
He looks like something from Wall-E.
They should reuse that suit for a Doom game from the perspective of a survivor.
That's what the suit was originally for, after all
I think it’d be funny if there was just one normal dude during the doom eternal invasion who could match the slayer in terms of threat level to demons bc he’s also just too angry to die
Intern guy: the game
@@disrespect9376plot twist: you are thinking of _this universe’s_ Doomguy. He hadn’t yet (and now can no longer) experience the events of DOOM 64, DOOM II RPG, or DOOM RPG.
But his pet rabbit was still killed, so…
@@ryzekiv7147
It was a chinchilla called Peach in this universe.
That suit probably was a holdover from the "call of doom" prototype they were working on before it became doom 2016
That is partially correct, it was made around the transitional period from what I understand
All of these concept designs are super cool! Especially the ones for Doomguy and Hayden!
Hayden had some pretty cool alternate concepts!
I think the npcs got repurposed as the hologram playbacks you can find throughout the game
Some of them did
I really like the prearor suit. It feels like an upgraded version of the original marine
It's a great modernization of the original suit
Why tf hayden look like ultrakill soldiers
Ipad hayden looks like a very nice and polite guy😂
So kind 😂
Proto Hayden looks like a stray from ultrakill
Honestly it would have been nice to see some of these concept art being used as older versions of the characters. Like hayden being in his most recent body. And they should have stuck with Olivia's conceot design. It looks so much better then the final.
I personally don't care for Olivia's design, they can do whatever
@@HordeModeGaming i feel that, but that's mainly her as a villain is boring. And her design was awful and forgettable. In the concept art it's different and looks good and hits to her characters back ground of being in pain.
Before the slayer, we could've gotten a cyborg if i'm not wrong.
I think the cyborg part is one thing that would ramp up people comparing the Slayer to Master Chief, though that unused military design doesn't fit into that at least.
But yeah, it could've been a different character. at least make that a playable guy in an expansion.
One thing is the goofy Hayden, another is the creepy robo skeleton one. The last one makes it seem like it'd be part of a plot where he'd be a demon or something.
That Olivia looks like her when she was younger.
Maybe she had implants to fix her spine or something.
There were several different interpretations of 2016's Doom marine. A normal human, a super soldier, all kinds of interesting stuff was created before Hugo Martin's "Hero" design took the lead
I wonder if the typical scifi soldier version is a leftover from another project used as a placeholder or something?
For example the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. series was originally going to he a whacky scifi game, but a lot of the assets were recycled for the final game. The Ukrainian soldiers all look weird because originally the design was for these space marine type guys. They just removed the fancy visor, added camo and honestly that's about all they changed.
Meanwhile that design was used until the final game in the trilogy with only helmet variants made. Now STALKER 2 will likely change that design to something less goofy looking but I expect something like that will be referenced somewhere in the game
a cyborg would also lessen the threat the demons would hold because if one guy can with mobility take down demons what stops a fortress or heavily armoured vehicles from suppressing them
Would of been fun if slayer looted a corpse for his armor and had to find his suit as a mission before going to hell
I can’t the idea of the iPad hayden holding a fucking crucible like in 2016💀
There's some awesome fan art of that, it's pretty funny 💀
Everybody saying iPad Hayden when in reality he looks like a goddamn early hero factory action figure
Its so fascinating seeing BTS of developing games and getting to behold what may have been, imagine modders getting these shots and creating the actual prefabs.
I'm sure we'll see some of this content re-added if official mod support is ever implemented
I think that old marine armor they planned would work well for a prologue honestly
Depends on who we're playing as
That version of Hayden with the hologramic screen face looks like if Apple made a robot. Smooth surfaces, gentle curves, barely any sharp angles. Imagine if we saw this version holding the Crucible.
The iPad bot goes hard
That original concept doom marine still looks fooking rad, should have defo being a skin
It's cool, fairly generic though
I heavily disagree, it’s just generic sci-fi with no identity or aesthetic
looks like it belongs in a Killzone game rather than a Doom game
The old suit could easily be a lingering concept from the scrapped 2007 Doom 4 build which was often referred to as Call of Doom for its military aesthetic.
The suit seems to come from the "rolling reboot" period (2011-2013) where several different ideas and designs were rapidly created
That Hayden concept looks like the male version of the nurse bot in Star Wars Episode III, that said “ooo baaa” as Padmé was dying during childbirth
That's my favorite Star Wars quote
@@HordeModeGaming lmao
The very last one which a lot of folk running away is still in doom 2016. It's a hologram I think and it's the in the later levels either where you get thr bfg or the demonic lab with the mancubas being gutted(my favorit uac leve)
That is true! I used that one by mistake, there was another similar clip that didn't make it into the final game
@@HordeModeGaming sweet! Might pick up doom 2016 again. Honestly yhr whole vibe in the game us my favorit
Tan and Purple Hayden was probably scrapped for the Revanent especially Eternal's future skin for the face but you can see the little red core the Revanent usually has on that Hayden model.
That's certainly a possibility
Ipad Hayden would have been great for some absolute hilarious scenes, as the super friendly exterior design clashes hard with his stoic cynical personality.
As for an in-universe explanation for him being in an Ipad bot: His original robot body might have been damaged and he transfered his conciousness to the closest robot, which happened to be a PR Ipad bot.
I like the idea of Vega using the iPad bot design, it fits him
Glad they changed the doom slayer armor during production. Looks more faithful to og doomguy
They definitely made the right call
Damn the more I hear about 2016's development I still love what we got but it sure seems like it came with a lot of cool ideas that didn't get used. I hope a lot of these awesome designs and ideas get recycled into a new IP as it would suck for them to go to waste.
That's how all games are, tons of ideas get scrapped during development
That Olivia Pierce design is really cool. Kind of better than what we got.
The animation we see at the end is used in the room right after you get the BFG
There would be more characters indeed, but too little info about them, as most of that was seen on the quakecon 2014 event
Olivia pierce was really downgraded, that cape and dress was amazing
That black helmet marine in the beginning, the helmet itself was never rendered as far as we know, but the suit was used in Doom 4 and had an different helmet much closer to the final version attached to it, so the look of the protagonist was basically that suit with the regular helmet we know now
As far as 2015 the praetor suit would have the same colors as that early suit, it wasn't black but dark blue with yellow highlights
We have the render of it an the recreation of the full suit
The image at the beginning is from another Doom 4 preservationist's collection of materials, it's the only render of the helmet I've ever seen and I'm not sure where it came from. I have shown the slightly different marine suit with the early Praetor helmet in a different short, that one is cool too
Dude almost got developed as a humanoid chair
The first design we saw for Hayden is straight up just a vex from destiny
I need the perspective of the people on earth while the evasion on earth was going on, the game would cool and fun, with references to the works of what doomslayer did in doon eternal and both the dlc
The origin of this older suit can be related to the scrapped DOOM reboot which there is a trailer of online. It was more apocalyptic on earth type of fps
The older suit likely comes from the 2011-2013 "rolling reboot" period
I want to see that suit if they bring back Doomguy's cousin Stan Blazkowicz for a third game.
2016 should have included these except the Slayer one
I’m glad they went with the design they did for Hayden in the final game but part of me really wants the goofy iPad boy lol. I just love him so much! The thought of that thing holding the crucible all menacingly is so funny to me.
There's some awesome fan art of ipad Hayden holding the crucible. It definitely would've been way too goofy but I love it anyways lol
Bro im so glad they went with the Preator suit.
Same dude
Purple Samuel Haden kinda looks like a tau but not fishy
Samuel Hayden looks like he's coming straight out of Wall-E
Wouldn’t be surprised if we got a red and gold/white version in of sams android body due to him being a maykr
I doubt we'll ever see him in a robot body again
@@HordeModeGaming idk we fucked him up pretty bad in ancient gods 1 he might have to augment himself lol😂
I honestly think a game where a human survivor tries to hold off the demons before doom guy arrives would be a cool concept. Could go in a lot of fun directions
I'd like to skip the Slayer if we're playing as a normal marine, I think that takes a lot away from the concept of humans fighting to survive
I really like that armor design. Maybe not for Doomslayer but would have been cool to see some of the solder characters wearing it
It's not bad overall, just too generic for Doom imo
Not the preater suit but the other ones still kinda chill
Imagine Doomguy gently picking up and folding Ipad Hayden's dead body instead of yanking it and throwing it.
Gotta be careful with iPad Hayden
I would love to see a doom horror game or horde shooter where you are just a normal marine again. No special super strength or resilience just straight up killing floor 2 typa chaos but with demons
Its crazy just how radically Doom 2016 changed from its original vision. I wonder what happened at the office that made them decide upon the shift, because it really is night and day, the kind of game Doom 2016 wouldve been had it stuck to its original design.
The team didn't feel like Doom 4 was a good representation of what the franchise should be, it was leaning into modern FPS trends instead of setting them
Why didnt they just add skins like in eternal?
This wasn't supposed to be seen
@@HordeModeGaming Tell them I'd pay for that early slayer suit
Ipad Hayden looks like he came from the Wall-E movie.
Kinda lmao
Old Hayden looks so cute! 😍😂👍
He's a silly guy 😂
the hayden design looks like something aperture would design
Samuel hayden used to look like gold experience requiem LMFAOOOO
Goofy ass design lmao
It's a pity that cyborg marines can only be seen in multiplayer and in holographic "flashbacks". I mean, those guys invaded Hell, sieged the most guarded part of it, kicked down the doors and then stolen the Slayer sarcophagus. Moreover every single one of them you find dead is surrounded by piles of demon corpses. If not for the killswitch those "petty mortals" probably would have stalled the demonic invasion on their own.
And then Eternal completely removes them, making UAC guards cowards:(
Was it them with Hayden? I always assumed those were the regular security guys, but that makes WAY more sense. Even then by the last hologram you find at the tomb that damn near platoon sized force was wittled down to just a handful of guys.
Same as the others who fought Hell, doesn't matter of you're stronger if the horde never ends.
To be fair, the UAC guys you see in Eternal are more comic relief, that game took a much more campy approach. Also the guys on Mars were likely the spearhead, the best the UAC had to offer for Hell expeditions and such. Back on Earth where there was likely nothing to do but check papers and guard hallways youd see a lot more... average guys.
@@AWEismaschine I'm pretty sure they are and it's the only time you see them alive. In all other instances you find their corpses to get armor tokens.
Multiplayer characters are far weaker then Slayer, but they still kicked some major demon backsides, even if they needed to mob bigger enemies. They're not on Marauder level sadly. Would have still been cool to see someone beside Slayer kicking the hordes back.
@@TheArklyte True, they were a bit underutilized. But that's typical in those kinds of games.
I had a similar thing as a kid about the marines im Metroid Prime 2, though at least that game had some footage of their last stand.
The one alt of Samuel Hayden looks Like the result of if he just made smart phones as opposed to messing around with hell energy
I wonder if he can run games on his face
The original doom slayer outfit looks almost like bondrew from made in abyss.
really wish they would've kept human npcs around as the chaos unfolded
The chaos has already unfolded
Imagine IPad Haden taking the crucible and monologuing after betraying you
That would be peak
Ipad hayden looks so goofy and huggable
Would've been a great body for Vega
iPad hayden looks like an action figure
We need a Hayden ipad bro
How about this.
In a different AU, where Doom Slayer fought the dark lord in their final battle.
Instead of winning, Doom Slayer lost, but not without weakening the Dark Lord.
So, humanity, in their desperate state, created an armour that uses Argent energy to power it so it could potentially fight off the lesser and mid tier demons, but not higher demons such as a Baron of Hell.
A man who was fit for the job, wore the suit, fight demon, find artifacts to upgrade the suit, but eventually, a Demon of Hell found him and damaged the suit, leading into a run and gun gameplay that ends in the Marine to find a garden in some part of the realm.
There, he finds the Slayer, his sword embedded in his armour chest, clearly beaten and dead as he was surrounded by rabbits and bunnies, but all are ghost.
When you, the marine, announce that the Slayer is truly dead, where everyone believe he did not, he was task to take his sword, and maybe use it to fight the demons.
But, when your character held onto the handle, the Slayer Grabs you, and in a panic, try to move away but it's like moving a mountain as the player's vision turns red as you and the Slayer look at each other.
And everything went black.
After a few seconds later, the Doom Slayer monologue, telling you that, despite him wounding the Dark Lord, he could not defeat him, for he is his creator or some shit.
So, after waiting for 10 years for a worthy Slayer to replace him, he have finally given it to the marine as the marine slowly dawns the Slayer's armour, and before he put on the helmet, he buried the late Slayer next to ghost bunnies and rabbit, telling him that he can finally rest after years of fighting.
So the player look at the slayer's helmet and put it on, becoming the New Doom Slayer.
And also start playing Doom slayer's mix as he held his double barrel shotgun.
That's when the demons appeared, ready to rip and tear the marine.
But, what they found was like a ghost from the past, and as your character put two shells into the gun, the demons screams and the beat drops as your character slam the shotgun close.
The Only Thing They Fear Is You starts playing.
And carnage ensues.
Man, this version of the doom slayer is much cooler imo. If anyone gets this model, please make a mod for it!
Would've been nice to have some backup fighting demons on earth but no biggie guys, have fun on mars.
We didn't need the help
original suit to the praetor has got to be one of the biggest glowups of all time. the praetor is now iconic and i can’t imagine if doom’s protagonist looked indistinguishable from a CoD AW character
It was an inanely good upgrade
The eyeless Imp design... my beloved...
I kinda miss it
OMG lego Samuel Hayden is so freakin funny!
He's a comical guy!
Olivia's cane looks pretty cool
I feel the current design owes a lot of it’s inspiration from master chief and Sentai heroes
I don't entirely agree with the Master Chief bit, they're not as similar as a lot of people say they are
I wouldn’t mind if the original concept for the doom reboot was used as its own IP, and the suit looks sick 2
I'd be down for that
Wow that helmet is in starfield
The original Doom Marine design looks too TitanFall for me. Im glad we got the Praetor suit we have
Its weird that the original doomguy suit looks almost exactly like a Starfield armor set, the navy marine outfit
They definitely have some similarities, probably unintentional
Looks like they were going with a more doom 3 design
First one Looks like the dead space suit
It looks like they had the idea of having Hayden as a makyr for a long time
I doubt they even really had the idea of the Maykrs at that point in development
@@HordeModeGaming his color scheme and body look reminiscent of those in urdak
I’m really glad there weren’t any human NPCs in 2016. It made the game feel much more like the original Doom where everyone is dead and it’s just you killing demons.
I like starting after the invasion has begun, really makes you feel like the last hope
@@HordeModeGaming there is a cool factor to that in Doom Eternal for sure that fits the narrative, what with it being on Earth for a large portion of the game. 2016 feels much more isolated, like there’s nothing left to save, your job is just to exterminate, and the demon speeches in about your legacy in hell really adds to that sort of “this is about the Slayer and the mission, nothing else.”
I would love for there to be a game with the doom marine image him meeting the doom slayer
Would've cool if we coul've customize our weapon and armor in 2016
I love looking at concept art.
I'm a huge fan of concept art dude
The design of the slayer look like a fallout power armor. It would be an amazing crossover between these two games!
Doom has had two fallout crossovers within the past four years!
YOUR TELL ME WE COULD’VE LOOKED LIKE THIS INSTEAD
Really dodged a bullet
Imagine an alternate universe where Samuel Hayden both looks like an iPad _and_ speaks like New Vegas' Yes-Man.
Sounds like a fun universe
That npc model test animation is used for the holograms in the bfg level of 2016 I'm pretty sure
That's totally right, I mistakenly used the wrong clip
I don't know *how* they even made concept art of that smooth "friendly" Samuel Hayden. Knowing the character that he is, why did they even bother with such a design? Haha. It could've worked for a random worker bot or maybe even Vega perhaps.
Because Samuel Hayden changed several times throughout development! He was still named Spencer at the time the friendly design was made, a lot changes during game development
In the early development of DOOM 2016, ID was influenced by more modern shooters of the time, leading to devs who were displeased with the change and called it Call of DOOM-ty. Lol
Concept suit should've come back as a costume in eternal
There seems to be quite a few concept suits from this era of development, none of which were meant to be seen in full
Looks like the Antixeno armor and the Starborn armor from Starfield hehe
That animation at the end with the crowd is actually used in game I think, it looks like the holograms we see in the area right after you get the BFG
That's correct! I used the wrong video clip on accident, there's more footage that wasn't used
@@HordeModeGaming Ahhh no worries, most don't pay attention to those types of things anyway. I only noticed because I always wanted to see more of the security guys, their armor design is so neat despite being nearly impossible to see without it being in pieces along with them.
A more grounded Doom? As far as the art style goes that is. Honestly looks pretty cool. Never really played Doom so I can speak for any true fans. I think the Doom that came out was true to the original and true to its fanbase. I’m sure it would’ve been a big risk to change the aesthetic so drastically. Still with all that being said, the concept art looks bad ass. I honestly might have been more open to playing more than a the couple hours I have played. It’s funny the Marine suit looks just like the UC armor in Starfield. Which Mars is a part of the UC. I wonder if it’s just a coincidence or if that original concept art served as any inspiration.
Looks like a heavy helldiver
A true Helldiver
That version of Olivia looks amazing imo
The first one is Adam Smaher
It definitely would've added stakes to the game if there actively were people being attacked in the foreground. By the time we do our thing, everyone is already dead.
The stakes are instead far greater, you're trying to stop the invasion before it reaches Earth
@@HordeModeGaming Which we also failed in doing. Smart of the doom slayer to finally use a permanent solution and insure both the maykrs and demons are trapped.
“You can’t just turn me into an IPAD, slayer!”
womp womp
@@HordeModeGaming (digital shrieking)
no way yellow Samuel is Yharim from Calamity referense ? ?
Bro why do I have the same name as that damned robot, we’re both Hayden, it’s my first name 😭
Next, Doom Eternal Season content?… That suit does look kinda badass and menacing
I don't believe Eternal will be getting any more seasonal content