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  • @CareerTalk
    @CareerTalk  Год назад +96

    Hi All, Please support the channel by hitting the Like Button and sharing this video in your WhatsApp network. This helps a lot. Appreciate your help in this regard.

    • @macdeep8523
      @macdeep8523 Год назад +1

      Sir , 42 year old average skilled non IT engineer and 24 year old IT avg skilled engineer salary are same , pls make vdo on this extreme disparity

    • @jeevanjena666
      @jeevanjena666 Год назад

      @@macdeep8523 product management in different domains in beginning or in a particular segment like fintech?

    • @criptik5208
      @criptik5208 Год назад

      Web develpment or data scientist?

    • @Fmjgcjgjc
      @Fmjgcjgjc Год назад +1

      U know it very well that out of 5 operational projects of 50 headcount of each will have 10 management roles which are already occupied.
      Now 5*50=250 associates,analysts,SMEs, have hardly 3-4 roles in a 1-3yrs span.
      250:3 is the ruff ratio, wer u r saying we need to upskill and beat all 249 to be the one.
      Then how about the 249????????
      Please speak about 249 and not about 1

    • @asitsethy813
      @asitsethy813 Год назад

      Can u share me ur email id

  • @monzurhussain4813
    @monzurhussain4813 Год назад +435

    I am 43. 19 years in the industry.
    still working hands-on role. Didn't go for management so far. It's exciting to be technical than management.

    • @lokhandwalamariyam
      @lokhandwalamariyam Год назад +7

      I second that

    • @sumant2000
      @sumant2000 Год назад +13

      Managers gets paid more than developers . But if one joins Google as developer then your existing company manager will be earning less as manager of Infosys for example. But manager in Google will be earning more than developer in Google.

    • @christopherpetrov2355
      @christopherpetrov2355 Год назад +17

      Yup - cool actually! Less pressure, more freedom compared to managers who are always mailing all the team members to be on time😂😂

    • @monzurhussain4813
      @monzurhussain4813 Год назад

      @@christopherpetrov2355 true

    • @vikranthsanka6000
      @vikranthsanka6000 Год назад +3

      are you working in India, coz as per my understanding IC roles are not encouraged in India at this age..

  • @rameshs4976
    @rameshs4976 Год назад +309

    I entered IT in the year 2003 after completing MCA and my age then was 35. I started as Technical Writer and continued in the same field until 2008. So, I used technical writing as launchpad to get into IT. I moved to testing in 2008-09, and continuing in testing till this day. Initially I was doing functional testing and some automation using UFT. In the recent years, doing functional, api and dB testing per client requirements. So, I am a Test Lead at 54. The only thing is salary got stagnated but still getting some salary (50k per month) but stay in the job. Staying longer is possible with some flexibility. India is slowly turning like West.
    My advice to whoever read this comment, please start working early and put hard work. Earn as much as you can till 40-45 (enough for retirement life and savings for kids) and then either continue in higher position in same company or lower your position and work in smaller or startup companies. There are two benefits - first, you already saved enough, so whatever you earn would be bonus, second you have a job. So, whoever worries that after 45, there won't be scope in IT, use this formula while upgrading your skills. Good luck and special thanks to Anand.

    • @chetank552
      @chetank552 Год назад +4

      Doesn't make sense..... All the best to you for your RETIREMENT PLANS.... 👍👍👍👍

    • @hulkdhiraj
      @hulkdhiraj Год назад +12

      A test lead is making just 50k a month? 🤔

    • @rameshs4976
      @rameshs4976 Год назад +8

      @@chetank552 it is true and I am the victim. I preferred to stay longer in safe zone owing to age factor and wanted to be in IT. My advice is others (even 50+) should give a try and companies are not very specific about age at initial stages. No need to mention dob in resume.

    • @rameshs4976
      @rameshs4976 Год назад +5

      @@hulkdhiraj I know it is far below standards, but to be on safe zone, sacrificed heavily on salary. My ctc is 9 lpa

    • @DINESHKUMAR-yq5gr
      @DINESHKUMAR-yq5gr Год назад +4

      @@rameshs4976 i am just 2.6 years experience getting 13.5 LPA

  • @TheSsharma11
    @TheSsharma11 Год назад +144

    I am 50 plus and still relevant…age is just a number ..key is keep learning ..

    • @CareerTalk
      @CareerTalk  Год назад +9

      That's great to know 🙌

    • @rpradhan500
      @rpradhan500 Год назад

      What you learn…?

    • @rajeshmehta5837
      @rajeshmehta5837 Год назад

      Correct

    • @subashchandrabose7775
      @subashchandrabose7775 Год назад

      Unoda health few years after theriyum epadirukunu.....

    • @yupp_harish3936
      @yupp_harish3936 Год назад

      hii...can you tell me what is the process of switching...like now i am into TCS...when ill change company after 2 3years...then while working in company i have to give interviews for other companies ??or 1st we have to resign/leave current company and then have to wait for calls of other companies for interviews..

  • @sherlockholmes8131
    @sherlockholmes8131 Год назад +169

    I am 39 working as an Technical Architect.
    As long as you are serious about work no issue.
    I know good number of colleagues around age range 47-48 working as Tech Leads in Wipro NTT Data HCL
    I know 3 Architects who do coding with 31 years of experience with 52-53 age still working in Wipro and CTS
    So it's all about being relevant and showing interest in work.
    No company in private sector will filter employees based on age and send them out.
    I know 3 folks with age 26-28 Fired from Wipro for not working 😅

    • @pulakdas8435
      @pulakdas8435 Год назад +6

      Excellent sir age is just a number knowledge is everything 👍

    • @kamandalamjalam1541
      @kamandalamjalam1541 Год назад +1

      @@pulakdas8435 But the salary/benefits come with Job Band you are in inside most of the IT Companies in India. So if you are at 50 and are a Developer or Senior most Developer, you are still in lower wage bands. So how are the IT Companies addressing this?

    • @pulakdas8435
      @pulakdas8435 Год назад +5

      @@kamandalamjalam1541 there are millions people in India who doesn't have proper job and you are taking about lower higher wages. Don't forget that We are living in third world worst country only politicians and repist can survive in this country

    • @attantianirudh3784
      @attantianirudh3784 Год назад +1

      @@pulakdas8435 wtf are you talking?

    • @shiva-kumar-vakiti
      @shiva-kumar-vakiti Год назад

      I am 28 now I am getting 28Lpa. I am into IT almost 5 years but in my opinion age anedhi just number maximum skills matter mana daggara skills lekaothe elanti age lo vunna thisestaru.

  • @mnrdev
    @mnrdev Год назад +170

    I still believe that it’s very difficult to survive after 40-45 years of age, which is the ground reality. I don’t think so, we need to sugar coat this issue, as this may mislead the younger generation unnecessarily. Some may survive due to obvious reasons, but we need to accept the reality and plan the life accordingly.
    Nowadays, I could see that some of the resources are losing employment even in mid-thirties and then what is the use to think too much about long term may not be useful.. My strong suggestion based up on my vast experience in this field is that , we should not have any type of long-term financial commitments, which may save our life up to some extent, otherwise life will be miserable.

    • @sandeepbhalerao6422
      @sandeepbhalerao6422 Год назад +5

      Sir, how to survive next life after early retirment at the age 40/45. Very difficult situation

    • @spiritualquest6092
      @spiritualquest6092 Год назад +19

      I am 53, software tester. Good salary. Your belief is base-less. If u r slow and beyond 45, u r fired (plus Goddess' grace should be there - 1%. 99% ur hard work, no shortcuts). Hard working and fast learning r important to survive in I.T. In non-I.T, groups like Religion or Caste etc will work, not in IT.

    • @mnrdev
      @mnrdev Год назад +3

      @@sandeepbhalerao6422 if you could able to manage your financials, then there will not be any problem at all. You better consult a financial expert in this regard for more details. Also You need work on career roadmap front to build relevant skills to survive in the industry. This is the most dynamic environment so we need manage both employment and financial risks on periodical basis.

    • @mnrdev
      @mnrdev Год назад +21

      @@spiritualquest6092 first of all, you should have responded properly than attacking me on personal front, which does not make any sense me. Anyway, you can still have different of opinion but unfortunately we cont change the reality in this industry

    • @spiritualquest6092
      @spiritualquest6092 Год назад +5

      @@mnrdev I don't think I did personal attack, I told your belief is base-less - No personal criticism I made here, nor is my intention to point to someone - Thanks! However, if I am slow and 45 + I will be fired too(this is the norm - I told in casual way - Not pointing u). I am 53 and not intelligent at all, but hard-working.
      However, there is Age based descrimination, lots of, in IT, 200% agree - Especially HR will maximum avoid to even call the candidate of 45+ age! However no company fires their employess because of their Age only, if salaries r too high + Age is high + their role does not need for the Org. etc things will add up.

  • @DPatel-rn4xb
    @DPatel-rn4xb Год назад +38

    The main problem in India that young college passout with some experience available easily with lesser salary expectations so company hire them for cost cutting. But in europian country workers not available as easily as india so this is main problem it is very crowded now in india every field person want job in it. Because higher salary and life style

  • @sumitroy3575
    @sumitroy3575 Год назад +295

    I started my career as a specialist at the age of 42 and doing excellent.

    • @utkarsh2660
      @utkarsh2660 Год назад +13

      Exactly i just it hate when people at managerial level have such an outdated thought process, bc it really affects the whole organization

    • @CareerTalk
      @CareerTalk  Год назад +5

      That's great to know Sumit 🙌

    • @saurabhrao
      @saurabhrao Год назад +15

      Just 3 yrs and you r gone 😅😅😅

    • @MW-kw9xc
      @MW-kw9xc Год назад +4

      Sumit Roy , you are an Idol

    • @globalcitizen8465
      @globalcitizen8465 Год назад

      @@saurabhrao 😀😀

  • @akhiltheloquacioussoul
    @akhiltheloquacioussoul Год назад +16

    I found this channel randomly on RUclips, and now I must say the videos are so good. It helps me understand quite a lot & also have a focus. What I like here is that, you are straight to the point and you have lots of valuable content in the videos (not all on youtube actually have content, but would post long videos).
    Please keep posting more awesome videos.

    • @CareerTalk
      @CareerTalk  Год назад +2

      Hi Akhiljayant, I am glad you found it helpful. It motivates me to do better. It will be great if you can share the videos with other relevant people like you who appreciate good content 👍

  • @TheUmaragu
    @TheUmaragu Год назад +12

    Anand makes excellent points; I am from IIT Delhi; worked all my life in the USA; started as a Software developer, system architect, DBA, Unix system Admin; was a senior VP in a Fortune 500 company building and selling a software product for the financial industry, managing budget and a team of 100 technocrats; lost my job with the whole team, as the company hit poor financial results; at the age of 65 I am a cybersecurity consultant, much in demand, enjoying and having a great time. Know yourself. Strength and weakness.

    • @candyfloss184
      @candyfloss184 Год назад +1

      How much money you earned when you were working during your 50th year of age?

    • @shaambhavishrivastava
      @shaambhavishrivastava 10 месяцев назад +1

      Oh wow! You've had so many roles 🙂

  • @mallutuppad
    @mallutuppad Год назад +12

    Everybody is commenting about their job switch from technical to management in software industry etc ...my career is extremely diversified , I shifted from hard core civil engineering profession to management role in IT company in last 6 years... Its not that difficult to survive after 45, you just have to upskill reskill and have good network...!

  • @ArunKumar-vd6tk
    @ArunKumar-vd6tk Год назад +6

    Yeah Anand, its pretty much true and imperative for one to identify his area of interest at the earliest possible. Should start working in that direction with lot of passion and will see fantastic results over a period of time.
    Most importantly, I wanna share few below points to make a good career progress:
    1. one should give himself time to shape their desired career by not rushing or pushing themselves atleast in the nascent stage
    2. Never ever compare your first page of career with last page of someone else, bcoz each and everyone is vested with unique talent and skillsets.
    3. Never ever expect instant desired results as it will create undue pressure on yourself, Success in any area wont happen overnight and its a long journey with different processes on the way. You gotta marry your passion to pursue your area of interest with hardwork and patience.
    Any one with me on the above points, folks??

  • @aakashggujju
    @aakashggujju Год назад +6

    Hey so amazing to come across the video and I must say I m at 10 yr experience level so I m seriously thinking about my future career moves may be the next assignment that I m gonna take soon may actually be a turning point in the long term because it has that kind of a potential 👍
    But who know better just be consistent and patiently do a wait and watch 🤞 that's all..🙂

  • @marketer116
    @marketer116 Год назад +8

    I am 42, shifted management roles technology roles. Doing well. If we do not update or shift ourselves even 5 years of experience is enough to put you out.

  • @venuvenu9785
    @venuvenu9785 Год назад +12

    I am 39. Having 15 years of experience. Now into Architect role. Technical line. Not into Management. Enjoying my role. Not very much concerned what lies ahead. Whatever comes my way, I will take it in challenging mode. Don't be scared. Be confident!!!!

    • @SandeepKumar-hh8lv
      @SandeepKumar-hh8lv Год назад

      Can u suggest how u got into it

    • @muralimohan4469
      @muralimohan4469 Год назад

      Can you please tell me how do I learn object oriented analysis and design. I know Java and kotlin but unable to develop meaningful application. Can you suggest any resources(books, tutorials, courses)?

  • @PraveenJakkannavar
    @PraveenJakkannavar Год назад

    I want to give double thumps up
    Thanks bro 👍🏼😎

  • @ragus1416
    @ragus1416 Год назад +2

    Good Topic! From my understanding, many a people in the Software development industry go redundant, due to their own personal distraction on various things and also due to not-improving their software skills. If you really wanted to work in the software development, upskilling is very important.
    Also many a young developers, they switch the job mindlessly for targeting only the salary hike.
    I met a guy, who is having only 10 years of experience, but switched 16 different companies. Now, no companies are offering him any job, because he is not trustable and his pay is very high when compare to other developers in any organization.

  • @Rwikm
    @Rwikm Год назад +11

    I started as web developer , then switched to embedded development , then became release manager . I realised management is not my cup of tea . Learnt new technology and working as cyber security tool development , my plan is to move farther in cloud secutity. I am working on a personal project involving blockchain for last 3 years . I am close to 40 with 13 years experience. Point is , indian IT sector very matured and full of opportunities. You can do anything you like , provided you know what you are doing. And never listen to anyone on how to shape your career. What worked for others, mayn't work for you.

    • @EdgewithHedge
      @EdgewithHedge Год назад +1

      The last line is the Ultimate truth

    • @fisher30011987
      @fisher30011987 Год назад

      How was your experience with embedded?...why did you left?

  • @donythomas7
    @donythomas7 Год назад +6

    If you're into programming, take a serious look at Rust programming language. It's a relatively young programming language with excellent performance and memory safety that no other programming language can deliver. Rust is now ready to join C as a practical language for implementing the Linux kernel. Rust is expected to have a bright future and now is the best time to start learning Rust.

  • @vamsiharati3206
    @vamsiharati3206 9 месяцев назад

    Every topic you discuss in your videos are so relevant..
    Just 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
    Thank you .. Makes me fee, I’m not alone in the struggle of confusion ..

  • @menatmars
    @menatmars Год назад +1

    Thank you very much Sir, very helpful content👍😇

  • @zameerahmed1775
    @zameerahmed1775 Год назад +73

    Well said Anand .... its like a heavenly revelation "Mindlessly shifting jobs
    across technologies". We need to stick on to a particular domain. This is a mistake
    committed by me and many others in the industry .....
    But post covid the scenario has changed, the other day I took up an interview
    at a product based company for the role of a "Solutions architect" and they were
    asking me basic coding related to function pointers and callbacks ..... I was
    shocked. They even asked me a few questions relevent to unit test frameworks and
    deployment startegies.
    Nowadays companies do not want managers who can only interact with clients and handle
    resources, they are looking at someone who can handle any eventuality and risk without
    depending on junior resources. The interview was very interesting but the sad part is
    even after 5 rounds of interview I was not given the offer.

    • @CareerTalk
      @CareerTalk  Год назад +16

      That's so true...just being a manager is not of much value these days. One needs to have either technical or functional knowledge along with project management 👍

    • @RamGopalKS
      @RamGopalKS Год назад

      Correct

    • @Pritha879
      @Pritha879 Год назад

      @@CareerTalk agree .. diverse skill set

    • @sg7762
      @sg7762 Год назад

      I still think you are in a better position. Being an individual contributor after 10+ years of experience due to lack of expertise in at least one area of work and making one bad decision after another due to ignorance is even worse. It is very important to grow vertically in career.

    • @zameerahmed1775
      @zameerahmed1775 Год назад +3

      @@sg7762 ur right ........... but time is time. It has NO mercy on anyone ............
      If ur new to the IT industry follow these protocols ..........
      Never mess with ur manager.
      If ur in Dev keep enhancing ur knowledge in deployment and system design.
      Do not bad mouth ur boss.
      Never get involved in office politics.
      Save ur work and keep ur senior managers in the loop if U have accomplished something new.
      Keep updating ur CV every 15 days.
      Keep taking interviews every 3 months.
      Never resign without an offer ...........
      Good Luck :)

  • @ArunKumar-vd6tk
    @ArunKumar-vd6tk Год назад +34

    In my humble opinion, as long as you are a life long learner and open to new ideas and thoughts the age factor is just a number. Because the more skills you add to your kitty the less you need to worry about creating your own opportunities in the world of job market.
    In IT industry, its not all about Money alone but more to do with adaptability to grab new things at a short time without losing focus. If you constantly do upskilling and reskilling you will hardly find frustration in your career path and will automatically lead to newer avenues

    • @karthikeyan-qq5cp
      @karthikeyan-qq5cp Год назад +1

      Well said sir

    • @RichmondMe
      @RichmondMe Год назад +4

      Not sure you thought about scenario in full. Learn and adapt to new technologies? At age 45-55 even if you do, the industry may not want to pay you that salary which a 30 year old can learn and deliver. That 15-20 year more experience is not going to help big in a new product tech environment. If you are talking about learning and adapting management skills...industry dont need 100 managers after 20 years, when all the 100 programmers, N/W engineers, sysadmins are ready to become managers. Point is even if one is ready to do coding and ready to adapt to working under 15 years younger MBA boss, the industry have options to choose younger programmers, and will go for it. That is the reality

    • @fazer79
      @fazer79 Год назад +1

      That's the most mugged up and typical answer I have ever heard. The same script is repeated again and again. You have skipped a lot of factors out mentioned by the other individual here. Please don't make such comical statements if you can't grasp the entire scenario.

    • @exhilaratedance
      @exhilaratedance Год назад

      Agree as a long life-long learner and showcase your skills, you should be good a lot of companies especially start-up companies look for skills to grow the business. If you try to help them age doesn't matter. Don't switch to management based on your experience that's where most of the problems come.

    • @abrarahmed5446
      @abrarahmed5446 Год назад +3

      In the 40s n 50s age does our mind has the capability to learn n adapt new things like we do when we r young in 20s ?

  • @sidb21
    @sidb21 Год назад +1

    Great advice! Completely agree

  • @jerryb1705
    @jerryb1705 Год назад +1

    Thanks for the information. Very insightful.

  • @desiexpat7
    @desiexpat7 Год назад +58

    What you said is fairly accurate....but the best option really after 40 is to do a startup....build your own enterprise while you have lot of energy and emotional support at home. It may take 5 to 10 years to build something good but then you are set for life or can even retire early!! Trying to survive in a corporate as an employee after 40 is always a struggle as it becomes a battle to keep up with the new rapid technologies and young blood competing with you.

    • @CareerTalk
      @CareerTalk  Год назад +10

      Hello Delhibiz, Nice to hear from you. Yes, starting something of our own is the way to go. However, there is lack of awareness around how this can be done.

    • @globalcitizen8465
      @globalcitizen8465 Год назад +4

      Bro how much active life is left after 40

    • @gigsz2982
      @gigsz2982 Год назад +1

      Haha settling after 50 😂

    • @miketesla8550
      @miketesla8550 Год назад

      I think this is the way. Starting your own business.

  • @ats0777
    @ats0777 Год назад +4

    Depends on person to person. Whatever I have learned in last 12 years (and still learning/earning) I will pass that on to at least 10 persons before I die. I want to help at least 10 families to live a happy life from my learnings/earnings of my GOLDEN LIFE.
    That's why I will open an IT startup with my own funding on a smaller scale after 3-5 years.
    That's my plan of 40s. Right now I am 34. 😀

  • @rakula2
    @rakula2 Год назад

    Liked your way of explanation and examples. Plz post more such ..

  • @ChinmayMandal999
    @ChinmayMandal999 Год назад +1

    Thanks for the great info. Its really helpful.

  • @ashwinb5502
    @ashwinb5502 Год назад +13

    I don't think age matters but yes after certain experience the company keeps on reminding you that you are very senior person and getting highest salary compared to juniors and you need to work more on multiple things but at the same time don't expect too much salary hike

  • @getplusmindset
    @getplusmindset Год назад +11

    These are very good points about people who are in management now. Management roles are like the honeymoon period. New workers are self-managed. So they don't need a manager. After doing 10 years of management, when a 40+ years guy wants to return to software development again - he needs to do a lot of learning for the right confidence. Technology changes every 4-5 years.

    • @sumerrana1111
      @sumerrana1111 Год назад +2

      I don’t agree that workers are self managed. Have you seen the teams in desi companies like TCS, Wipro, CTS etc? There are freshers who can’t even write a small script. In fact, resources below 5 years experience are just like freshers in these companies.

    • @getplusmindset
      @getplusmindset Год назад

      @@sumerrana1111 😄You added a good point. Many service companies rely on skills. The recruiters use various web-based tests including technical and psychometric tests. Such testing tools efficiently weed out the least-suitable applicants, leaving a smaller, better-qualified pool. So the dependability of freshers is high and it is not a piece of good news for people who want to survive after 40-45 years of age.

  • @kishoreonline
    @kishoreonline Год назад

    Soon I will turn 40, still struggling to establish a right path to my career. This video was very useful for me to think out of box.

  • @greatmonk
    @greatmonk Год назад

    Thank you for Sharing.... I was concerned about the same.. Thanks again :)

  • @venkykalyan544
    @venkykalyan544 Год назад +12

    This applies to those who struggle to survive in young age due to lack of skills. So obviously it would be very difficult to survive in age of 45+ due to weakness by aging plus degree of lack of skills increment.

  • @RationaleThinker
    @RationaleThinker Год назад +4

    It really depends on what your definition of career. There are many roles in the IT industry for mid manager and delivery management roles after 45 years of age.

  • @hk_build
    @hk_build Год назад

    Your videos are Really helpful
    Keep doing more and great work 💞

  • @chatsomil
    @chatsomil Год назад

    Your thoughts were very pertinent and accurate. Partly because of India being a young country compared to western countries and also becuae of a mindset, there is a thinking that by middle age of 40-45, one would be leading a team or be in a managerial role.

  • @nishantgupta1482
    @nishantgupta1482 Год назад +4

    Good insights sir...really helpful in what not to do initially in career...

    • @CareerTalk
      @CareerTalk  Год назад +1

      Hi Nishant, Glad you found it helpful. Thanks for your time and comments 🙂 👍

  • @RajuGadda-wn8hq
    @RajuGadda-wn8hq Год назад +21

    This is just a perspective. IT is different where adaptability to situation plays key role in sustaining further. This is because technology keeps changing more rapidly than any other sector. If you are passionate about learning new things and keep your self adaptable to new trends, you can continue your career for more years than other sectors. I saw a live example, my manager is still actively working and has no thoughts about retiring in near future, can you imagine! he completed his B.E. in early 1980's.

    • @noushadpollachi5023
      @noushadpollachi5023 Год назад +2

      Your manager completed engineering early 1980's , Lets assume 1984. In India, the earliest age possible for a person who completed his/her engineering is 21. So in1984 your manager's age would be at least 21 years. 2023 - 1984 = 39, which is his total carrier. 21 + 39 = 60, so your manager should be at 60 now. In India almost all IT companies have retirement age in the range 55 - 60. So if above details shared are correct, your manager should retire this year. But you are saying your manager has no thoughts about retiring in near future.

    • @fazer79
      @fazer79 Год назад

      I beg to differ but your manager is in management and not in the technical field, so the same concept of learning and keeping yourself updated doesn't apply to him as much as it does to technical people.

  • @seriousblack-cn4jc
    @seriousblack-cn4jc Год назад

    Subscribed Brother, Good Content . Please keep it up. I will try to share as much as possible.

  • @guruprasadl2495
    @guruprasadl2495 Год назад

    Started my IT career in mid 90s, now working as product owner/BA and looking forward to learn frontend JS technologies in 2023...

  • @RajaSekar-USA
    @RajaSekar-USA Год назад +13

    Working abroad is the best option if we don’t have own business. I see people working till 75 years as software engineer. No retirement age. As per me we age healthy and our life span is increasing nowadays and many people are healthy till 70 to 75 years of age. I consider 40 to 50 is damm young and no compromise needed. If we don’t have the opportunity then work hard to find the other option.

    • @anonymousok6158
      @anonymousok6158 Год назад

      Due to stress we cannot work....if mind permit also body should permit

  • @arunchaudhary1722
    @arunchaudhary1722 Год назад +39

    WHENEVER CONFUSED, LISTEN TO SENIORS
    With around 6 years of experience, I had almost switched from Product Owner to a Data Engineering role (I know it sounds odd, switching from Management to Technical). Needless to say, I was befuddled at this time. Amid this violent storm that was brewing in my mind, I approached Mr. Anand Vaishampayan.
    He interacted very patiently with me for an hour, understood my position & told me WHY I should stay in management. In hindsight, there could not have been a better decision.
    Thank you Mr .Vaishampayan..

    • @rituraj8471
      @rituraj8471 Год назад

      which is better oracle job with good pacakge or rbi grade b 30 lpa ctc govt job .i know its personal choice but which is more better for long term ?

    • @CareerTalk
      @CareerTalk  Год назад +3

      Thanks a lot Arun. I am glad you still remember me. I would like to post your feedback on my website and other social media network. Please let me know if you are okay with it.

    • @arunchaudhary1722
      @arunchaudhary1722 Год назад

      @@CareerTalk By all means, please go ahead.🙂

    • @arunchaudhary1722
      @arunchaudhary1722 Год назад +9

      @@rituraj8471 only 2 govt. jobs are better than a core IT job:
      1. UPSC jobs (IAS, IPS, IFS & IRS)
      2. RBI jobs (I think Grade B would offer you around 25L fixed; plus everything is re-imbursed: including even your newspaper, petrol, etc.).
      Again, I am not saying that you cannot exceed this package in IT sector, but stability & security are important as well.

    • @rituraj8471
      @rituraj8471 Год назад

      @@arunchaudhary1722 if u get choice which would choose and reason plz

  • @TT-qv5bt
    @TT-qv5bt Год назад +44

    Companies are not hiring highly experienced person in development because there should not be a case where 3 years of experience candidate and 10 years of experience candidate is doing the same development 😎
    It helps in controlling project cost and organisational issues

    • @CareerTalk
      @CareerTalk  Год назад

      Oh yes, the younger generation keeps pushing the older generation 🙂👍

    • @devilisbackk
      @devilisbackk Год назад +2

      Yes absolutely....even for entry level jobs also they prefer only freshers not experienced.... They include the age limit criteria as well these days to filter the experienced 🤷 it's so strange to get rejected after 40-45s though they are much more experienced 🤷

    • @sumerrana1111
      @sumerrana1111 Год назад

      Yes, and that is why I agree with him that once you have 15-20 years of experience you should present yourself in leadership roles with good technical background. Keep doing certifications either managerial like PMP, Safe, agile or technical like AWS, azure etc to keep your profile highly in demand in job market.

  • @amitjoshi5798
    @amitjoshi5798 Год назад

    You are correct 💯. However I believe if we continue coding with given responsibilities, we can extend it for 7-8 more years.

  • @joej7028
    @joej7028 Год назад +10

    70 plus aged People are working in western countries in technical side. Indian companies also make such mind set. Their experience counts.

    • @CareerTalk
      @CareerTalk  Год назад

      70 plus....wow

    • @MediaAR99
      @MediaAR99 Год назад

      Boss age just number, why are you wasting time.

  • @latham.s.8993
    @latham.s.8993 Год назад +17

    Not just IT, every corporate organisation are following this trend. It’s because of HR, who think they will not grow old. Moreover, these HR juniors, who are just graduates, screen the candidates, who are highly qualified, & experience. Just based on age, they reject candidates in the initial screening. For ex, a doctor starts career around the age of 30-32, after post graduation or super specialisation, by 40-42, they are not given opportunity in corporate organisation, whereas in hospital they can work till they are fit.
    Doctors working in IT, or companies other than hospitals, have to be very careful.

    • @devilisbackk
      @devilisbackk Год назад +5

      Absolutely 🤷 i am in my 45s struggling to get an opening in any sector post COVID due to my above age factor which is clearly seen in the voice of HRs as you mentioned. Most of the HRs are below 30s or young graduates who refuse to even touch the senior profiles as if they are gone cases..... 🥴 I have almost 6yrs gap since i was into freelance and business.... Now I feel like going back to job but it's next impossible in the country like us..... 🙄

    • @vikastulsi
      @vikastulsi Год назад +5

      Its not just HR. it's society and industry as a whole. Because till recently IT was maturing and there were positions open so that companies could afford to promote people with 5-7 years to Management roles.
      IIM Bangalore executive MBA program criteria says people with 5-12 years experience..
      I think this perception will change as the industry sees more grey-haired people 'still' doing normal tech roles...

    • @ankushmukherjee3219
      @ankushmukherjee3219 Год назад +1

      @@vikastulsi It has to change sooner or later. Let the average age of India go up and you'll see things changing.

  • @healthwealthandhappiness6583
    @healthwealthandhappiness6583 Год назад +10

    I have been working in IT industry from last 16 years as a oracle apps techno-funtional consultant, and will work 10 years more , my current age 42 ,You can work until your mind and health supports you..

    • @sanjeevkambale7721
      @sanjeevkambale7721 Год назад

      Sir I have one question. present I am working in sugar factory 15 year fitter but I want next post engineer . Now I want to plan go diploma course . Can you give suggestions

  • @realjoecast
    @realjoecast Год назад +1

    44 now 26ish years in the various IT roles, looking to move into more management type of track. as i get older it is harder to step out of my comfort zone and it takes me a few beats longer to catch up on new tech i have not needed to use in the past. I'd rather stick with more technical side but in my role now, its all over the place since 2020 and maybe I'm just getting burned out.

  • @rahulvitthalpatil
    @rahulvitthalpatil Год назад +3

    Just Spend 30 mins every day upgrading yourself and no need to worry about such things. Any Tech. We won't go down in one day or go up in one day. It's a process, so keep Learning, That is what IT is about and not a 9 to 5 same Type Government Job.

  • @nikkione9901
    @nikkione9901 Год назад +2

    I work in the software sector of oil and gas as a product owner, I’m 30, and all my coworkers are 45 and up, try switching to that field, we need people badly. The oldest guy on my team is 60, and he’s a solutions architect

  • @techproductssuite8501
    @techproductssuite8501 Год назад

    well said..perfectly said...this is the truth...

  • @purnachandrarao9662
    @purnachandrarao9662 Год назад +1

    Excellent info. Thanks for sharing.

    • @CareerTalk
      @CareerTalk  Год назад

      Thanks Purna Chandra Rao 🙌

  • @kanishkadas5907
    @kanishkadas5907 Год назад +5

    Thank you for sharing information. I like to move to techno manager role. But when i talk with my managers or architects , it seems they are not bother about others career. They are more interested in explaining what they will achieve in future. How to improve skill to become techno manager or business analyst without mentors ?

  • @alokpriye2479
    @alokpriye2479 Год назад +3

    Very clear and concise

    • @CareerTalk
      @CareerTalk  Год назад +1

      Thank You Alok Priye 🙂👍

  • @venky1248
    @venky1248 Год назад +1

    thanks for valuable information :-) it's helpful

    • @CareerTalk
      @CareerTalk  Год назад

      Hi Venkat, Glad to know you found it helpful 🙌

  • @lakshmiinumula2740
    @lakshmiinumula2740 Год назад

    I switched to EPM consultant role after 10 years of experience in finance and accounts. Happy to learn new skills to succeed

  • @subhasismukhopadhyay4758
    @subhasismukhopadhyay4758 Год назад +33

    There are two factors in general to survive in the IT Industry till 60-65 years:
    1. Don't be a manager/delivery manager/process manager etc. Be a technical or domain functional guy.
    2. If you are Tamil and Telugu you can survive with almost every skillset as the leadership won't let one of their own leave.

    • @subhasismukhopadhyay4758
      @subhasismukhopadhyay4758 Год назад +15

      @@jsr5773 I said what everyone knows but are afraid to admit.
      You made the linen dirty but now it hurts when someone points you to that.

    • @subhasismukhopadhyay4758
      @subhasismukhopadhyay4758 Год назад +10

      @@jsr5773 comes from real life experience. Aged people like me form opinions from their experience and not from Social Media.

  • @sumerrana1111
    @sumerrana1111 Год назад +4

    Freshers or less experienced people seem to have the perception that managers do nothing. It is absolutely wrong. Being a senior technical person and trying to switch to management roles in other organizations, I find it really difficult. In the interview, they grill me on project management concepts and different management scenarios. Being technical is always beneficial but you have to be really good in project management concepts ( traditional waterfall, PMBOK, Agile , Kanban, Scrum, SAFE, etc.) to succeed in this role. Person highly skilled in project management knowledge with some technical background who can understand architecture and participate in technical discussions is really high in demand.

    • @CareerTalk
      @CareerTalk  Год назад +1

      Yes that's right sumerrana, project management is a skill and a vast subject. I did PMP some 11 years ago and have realized that it is a ocean with so much to do.

  • @cleantechservicesbangalore3213

    This is applicable for almost all industries.

  • @behzadsiddiqui7597
    @behzadsiddiqui7597 Год назад

    Excellent analysis...

  • @chetank552
    @chetank552 Год назад +39

    Age doesn't matter in ANY PROFESSION.... It's the SKILL SET that matters... No matter whether you are a entry level.. mid level or highly experienced professional....👍👍👍👍👍👍

    • @subhrakumarsarkar6599
      @subhrakumarsarkar6599 Год назад +3

      @@BharathRaghavan You are wrong. Age is a vital factor.

    • @sureshmadurai5044
      @sureshmadurai5044 Год назад

      @@subhrakumarsarkar6599 AGE is not a matter. I worked all over the world. you can take age as an advantage as well.

    • @mubelsjedenn
      @mubelsjedenn Год назад

      @@subhrakumarsarkar6599 Please don't state something, if you do also state why or you're just spewing words.

    • @subhrakumarsarkar6599
      @subhrakumarsarkar6599 Год назад

      @@sureshmadurai5044 If someone ages and does not have experience, can he get a job. I dont think so.

    • @anandmehta2323
      @anandmehta2323 Год назад +2

      In IT it is true. Everyone cant become a manager or architect. For every 20 engineers there is one manager/architect. So all 20 cant go into that one role.
      Also you are not allowed to stay technical. Because if you are 40 and your manager is 30 with less experience, they have a lot of insecurity and that leads to ego clashes. So they try to point out flaws, put you on a pip and get rid of you. Talking from personal experience.

  • @Itprofessional1992
    @Itprofessional1992 Год назад +10

    absolutely right specially in India after age of 40, getting job very difficult

    • @devilisbackk
      @devilisbackk Год назад +1

      Not just different but difficult also 🥴

  • @rajapathamuthug608
    @rajapathamuthug608 Год назад

    We should ready to adopt current requirement which need for our survive in field, Of course we should be do any thing our self with out depending any others

  • @siddharthsingh5829
    @siddharthsingh5829 Год назад

    ThankYou so much Sir...🙏🙏😊😊

  • @ranaganguli2892
    @ranaganguli2892 Год назад +3

    Continuous learning is vital...

  • @rajkumar-jz5wu
    @rajkumar-jz5wu Год назад +2

    Hi sir, i have a query that needs your thought/ opinion...i have one year experience..in it..i thought to do ms in us but is it good move to go us right now since there is recession?

  • @prakashk.n8363
    @prakashk.n8363 Год назад +2

    Sir,
    Till 50 years i was doing coding and in technical side only.
    Now just from last 3 years (now 53)for change was in testing.
    If you don't worry much about salary,if you do your work, we can retire from IT company.
    Age is Just a number.

  • @sajeeshkumar4510
    @sajeeshkumar4510 11 месяцев назад +1

    This video has really motivated me. Thanks

    • @CareerTalk
      @CareerTalk  11 месяцев назад

      I'm so glad Sajeesh 🙌

  • @shrugoel5063
    @shrugoel5063 Год назад +6

    Believe it's all boil down to your passion. If you are passionate enough then no stopping n looking back. If you are just merely doing the job then it's really difficult to be into something you do not enjoy for long. Best is to identify your needs and wants.

    • @CareerTalk
      @CareerTalk  Год назад +2

      Absolutely shrugoel 💯💯💯

  • @aniltembhare2985
    @aniltembhare2985 Год назад

    Good explanation , thanks

  • @senthilvenkat8930
    @senthilvenkat8930 Год назад

    Good advise about the IT jobs after 40 years of Age.

  • @rknaik76
    @rknaik76 Год назад +10

    I am 45 and still on hands on technical and i love it. That perception is gone where we used to think that after 10 years go into management. If you love tech work stick to it. Main thing is you are satisfied after you log out for the day.

  • @princeofheaven19
    @princeofheaven19 Год назад +14

    In our product based company we have architects and managers who are 50+

    • @CareerTalk
      @CareerTalk  Год назад +1

      Great to know that 🙂👍

    • @macdeep8523
      @macdeep8523 Год назад +2

      50+ technical ppl is an asset

  • @DeccanRaja
    @DeccanRaja Год назад +2

    Superb English. Crisp Message👌🏼👌🏼

    • @CareerTalk
      @CareerTalk  Год назад

      Thank you so much. Glad you found it helpful 🙌

  • @rockstareditz4690
    @rockstareditz4690 11 месяцев назад

    Tnx for the content Anand bro

  • @Joykids_chittismiley
    @Joykids_chittismiley Год назад +3

    Hi sir, I have 14 years of pharmaceutical industry experience as Assistant Manager with 11 LPA package. Now I left the job in February and now learning SAP material management course and wanted to start my career as Functional consultant. Is it possible to get the job and sustaine

  • @anilsutharapu587
    @anilsutharapu587 Год назад +3

    Iam 42 and my role is solution architect. Happily doing except health problems

  • @shrih8891
    @shrih8891 Год назад

    Work hard, earn as much as possible, as quick as possible, live simple life & save for the future - may be one of the formula to consider.
    We need to set this expectations right within ourselves and the family, so that there are no surprises.
    Many of us overlook the fact that IT employees get high salary but could be for shorter period of years, others might get lesser for a longer period.
    Loosing the job there could be 2 reasons
    1. Due to employee: skill set mismatch or performance problems
    2.Due to employer: industry or domain getting evolved/obsolete or going out of business

  • @rahamanbasha1412
    @rahamanbasha1412 Год назад

    Quite informative.

  • @generalknowledge4all
    @generalknowledge4all Год назад +2

    Hi Ananad.. Nice video.. For some reasons i quit job in 2012..was into software development...is there any chance to get a job now when i am in my late 40s

  • @roshnray6566
    @roshnray6566 Год назад +47

    Too many job hops .. seems the tale of old days..seen so many managers not understanding technically and just good with excel

    • @siddapure
      @siddapure Год назад +3

      Exactly...his views are outdated

    • @azharnawaz7908
      @azharnawaz7908 Год назад +7

      @@siddapure not only views but he is also outdated

    • @kspradeep8397
      @kspradeep8397 Год назад +1

      @@azharnawaz7908 perfect comment

    • @sumerrana1111
      @sumerrana1111 Год назад +1

      Project management is much beyond excel. Attempt PMP and then you would understand.

    • @kspradeep8397
      @kspradeep8397 Год назад +2

      @@sumerrana1111 even PMP seems to be too much outdated in today's world

  • @coolnarsim
    @coolnarsim 11 месяцев назад

    Very well said....and that too at 5.15 it is very real.....go abroad if you are technical and above 40....

  • @nitinsingh.2107
    @nitinsingh.2107 Год назад

    Well explained Anand

  • @whoknows5656
    @whoknows5656 Год назад +9

    Everyone appreciates US, European and other overseas work culture, values, management style etc .. when they return from onsite, these people when come to India follow again the Indian style of management. They follow the mindset of their senors and same juniors copy, it's never ending that's why one of the reason people looking for jobs outside India.

    • @Srirao01
      @Srirao01 Год назад

      I have been both side, onsite (US, UK) and offshore, working from Indian perspective, mostly i would say correct, but working in US and UK is big catch,
      if you are young and building career, in aboard complete make senses to the young people, which will give good speed to their financial and onsite experiences, but for older people, this may not true, how ...... the coding / Development jobs in US, mostly fixed (i am talking majority of them), and reasonably paid, this money may not sufficient for old people (who comes with many commits like family maintenances, children education, health etc)... it will mostly hand to mouth existences....

  • @manojexuberant
    @manojexuberant Год назад +6

    as you rightly said in oursourcing scenarios highly skilled aged(40+) person is not needed and in other countries they are required , can you make video on how to search sponsorship jobs in uk or usa or australia

  • @raghuganapam
    @raghuganapam Год назад +2

    I became an entrepreneur after 12 yrs working in IT .btw worked in a single company.

  • @wordsofsong6556
    @wordsofsong6556 Год назад

    Thank you so much!

  • @divyanshchaudhary7063
    @divyanshchaudhary7063 Год назад +4

    Your time was something else Sir at your time there were not many SDE's but today's era you find every single college Grad want shift into Software Engineer (even I have seen Doctors shifting to IT industries)
    when there are soo many people after 10-15 years later how many will be able to secure their jobs and how many can switch to management side.
    In today's era a person should take Coding and Software Development as Hobby not as a full time career.

    • @CareerTalk
      @CareerTalk  Год назад +3

      Hi Divyansh, In the past many folks from mechanical, electrical or electronics background have shifted into IT. This happens even today. But Doctors moving to IT is something new for me 🙂 I thought there was more money in the medical profession.

    • @akshathaka5988
      @akshathaka5988 Год назад

      ​@@CareerTalk medical industry s also getting stagnant..only highly skilled professionals survive there too.. Having only MBBS degree won't help much..

  • @shanky1301
    @shanky1301 Год назад +10

    Very informative video. Will India too slowly adapt or have started already adapting the way people in US work as developers or architects till their retirement??

    • @CareerTalk
      @CareerTalk  Год назад +1

      I believe in product companies we can see more senior people in technical roles

  • @ShanSriK
    @ShanSriK Год назад +2

    Hi sir, can you please do a video on internal job posting on how to switch between projects when we have right skill set.

  • @gautumb
    @gautumb Год назад

    IT workers should keep learning new things, that's the only way to survive. The job market is highly complex and competitive these days, not just in the IT industry.

  • @pradnyabangar8110
    @pradnyabangar8110 Год назад +3

    Sir I worked in IT for 15 years and 3 years in teaching. Had a career break of 3.5 years looking to join back in project management... Can you please guide how can I get back with no specific technical touch as I worked into management in last 4-5 years of my job

  • @hctaw1
    @hctaw1 Год назад +16

    In big IT companies it is more of perception how you project your importance to the company. It's not all that tough to survive after crossing 45 yrs. No reputed company will fire it's people just on the basis of age. If you manage to contribute on the basis of your experience then it's not a big deal to survive till your retirement age.

    • @sunithaacharya4340
      @sunithaacharya4340 Год назад

      That is true in any field.

    • @strongBuddy
      @strongBuddy Год назад

      does IT field have a retirement age?...

    • @hctaw1
      @hctaw1 Год назад

      @@strongBuddy its like any other company at 60 yrs. But not many stay till that age

  • @kumarrohit4248
    @kumarrohit4248 Год назад

    IT industry is one of the most dynamic and versatile field....you need to patch your self with regular upgrade.... otherwise you know what happens to an un-patched system in the network full of threats.
    Similarly, when you don't upgrade yourself in IT industry frequently in technical, managerial or techno- functional area you will become obsolete sooner.

  • @gsent100
    @gsent100 Год назад

    Superb sir.... great 👌👍

  • @krishnavamshi981
    @krishnavamshi981 Год назад +2

    Health also matters a lot, no one with huge package can work for long term, only persons working on jobs with low coding/ no coding can survive in long term

  • @mahesh84
    @mahesh84 Год назад +5

    shifting too many tech for job switch is worst after 10 years , just stick to the tech what you love and this gives proper vision on your career , try for early retirement after 40-45 years

    • @CareerTalk
      @CareerTalk  Год назад

      That's correct Mahesh. Working on something which one loves matters a lot in the long run 👍

    • @macdeep8523
      @macdeep8523 Год назад

      How much fund is sufficient to retirement after 45/50

  • @eliaszeray7981
    @eliaszeray7981 Год назад +1

    Great! Thank u.

  • @healinghope7080
    @healinghope7080 11 месяцев назад +2

    I am 30 years old and earning only 20k/month. I was in mechanical company (since there is no growth), I have recently switch to IT a year back. The salary is really less, am i too late in life??