Actually, “die-side” is still the incorrect pronunciation. Its actual name “Deicide” stems from the act of killing a deity. A fitting name for a weapon in this series, but not for this one.
If you like to go on a streak, slideshot + offhand strike Heritage is also really good. After the initial ADS kill you can just keep sliding around without ever wasting time reloading.
the absolute best part of this video is the way you edit the light around the gun image to let us know when the next weapon will come up, so amazing and intuitive. love it keep it up
S-tiers are always on point in these ranking videos because they're always so mindnumblingly obvious. I usually just move on to another video once they reach S-tier
Conditional Finality just feels good. It doesn't feel broken aside from those rare times you get a collat with the stasis or solar explosion but those are so rare. If the gun held more in the mag then I might say it was too strong but since you have to reload so much nah. It feels like a raid exotic should. I miss when lightweights were good.
it's perfectly balanced in both modes in pve since it's a shotgun and in pvp since its range is low, i love it. wonder how they could make a catalyst for it. i would love something like all shatter/ignition damage you do is increased, make it even more of a monster and your builds are improved since stasis kinda needs help. ignitions are already good tho so idk
i gave you a like for the gold border indicating time left on an explanation. that is the viewer-friendly kind of editing i want to see youtubers do and you absolutely deserve the bright future your channel has :)
I've actually been having fun with Until Its Return in PvE this season. It's been nice for chunking down the Lucent hive in the dungeon. Last Man Standing also isn't terrible, either! Honestly though, ConditionalFinality is my main PvP shotgun these days. The freeze/ignite feature is rather nice. Also, Prophet of Doom is so underrated. It's actually a killer PvP shotgun, and it can roll with one-two punch for PvE. I have a better Matador, but I love the aesthetic of the garden weapons.
Seventh seraph cqc will always have special place in my heart and nothing will change it. Farmed for it with hundreds of umbrals back in arrivals and it never dissapoints me
I’ve been running a discord last man from the start of the season and man it’s so much fun, people don’t expect you to mow down the whole enemy team never needing to reload
HEY. I demand royalties for the footage use. Solid video overall Castle, can't say I disagree with any of it other than placing LoW as B tier. But GREAT list and great job putting it all together!
Was thinking the same. Mine is adept with max range and handling. I get kills just like the Heritage kills in the video. It’s super snappy and feels like I’m cheating when I use it. Pretty much guaranteed 2 kills every time i spawn in.
One of the best done Destiny info vides ive ever seen. Job very well done. The time frames around the gun and over class time at the bottom of the video is such a great touch. nice job man!
The reckless endangerment is one of the best shotguns in it's archetype, personally I found it to be just as if not more consistent than a fully crafted without remorse or a godroll Seventh Seraph CQC. With that being said these 3 shotguns are the best in the lightweight archetype. They are fast and consistent and do their job well. These shotguns aren't really much for aping. They can do it, and they can do it fairly well but aggressive and precision's can do it with more consistency, at the cost of having much lower handling. These 3 shotguns are perfect for punishing overly aggressive players, you get a few shots in with your primary, and you swap to your shotgun in a split second to get that cleanup. In my opinion these 3 are S tier shotguns as they are consistent and snappy without the use of ophidians. You want a shotgun you want to be able to pull out in a fraction of a second to punish overconfidence and these weapons can do it without the use of exotics like ophidians.
Dude omg the animated timer on the border of the shotgun showing how long you're talking about that specific gun is SO COOL THAT MUST HAVE TAKEN A WHILE TO EDIT GOOD JOB
Unsure how many people already mentioned it, but those are some very well done animations, with timers on guns and at the bottom of screen, showing how long you talk about specific gun and a tier as a whole.
7:16 I always wondered if the Discord and Harmony perks were a shoutout to Zenyatta's orbs from Overwatch. (Props if you caught the shoutout in one of the earlier weekly missions!). I loved putting my balls on people....
there are a lot of "tier list" videos out there, but i think this one is the best. The explanations are thorough as opposed to "I just don't like this gun so I'm putting it in D Tier" type videos. And the editing is great too!
I just want to say that one of my first rolls for a shotgun was a cracked out found verdict and I still use it a lot. Even after being able to get my hands on lots of other guns, there's just something about that gun. Its just a beast for sure. 😩
Its a little thing but i like the little outline/loading screen aura around the gun image when your talking about it, its a tiny touch bit its such a cool thing to see
Love the video progress tracker on the weapon icons! Really great. Would leave the overall section tracker behind in future, think it messes with my attention span (want the section to be "over" as the progress bar gets near the end).
In regards to discord on the last man standing, you forgot to mention that it refunds special ammo on a kill when you proc the perk. It was in the perk description, and I'm not trying to nitpick. The video is amazing. I just wanted it out there for people who are reading the comments and are wondering.
My first shotgun I used in pvp was a retrofuturist, almost 5/5 God roll, rifled barrel, acurized, Quickdraw, thresh,, with a range masterwork. It currently sits in my vault with 2139 pvp crucible kills, as I used it in comp and QP to get my super fast. I'll never forget such fond memories.
Absolute agree on Seventh Seraph! It kinda gives me the same vibe as the 180hc Trust: You know it's not in the best archetype but it slaps when you need it to and the feel of it is addicting as all hell.
Hey castle I really appreciate this video, I had never really gave duality the time of day but it’s incredible and I got a super easy flawless this week because of it. Thanks again
Adept Inquisitor is S tier. The fact this weapon is not only rare but does what it does with such ease no matter the perk combo. That said getting a 5/5 God roll only shows that’s it’s S tier. I love my 4/5 and the fact I do so well with it only proves why it’s S tier. Great list.
Hard disagree on the ranking of Nessa's Oblation. Amazing stats with enhanced opening shot and adept targeting makes it easily the best in slot slug shotgun.
@@tomakai3460 disagree, each shotgun is a personal opinion and this was his personal opinion, take it for a way to find your own personal shotgun you enjoy using
Do remember all of the adept Nightfall weapons from seasons 18 and 19 are all just reskinned in season 20, their perks are literally the same so technically it’s still 3 versions of Mindbenders Same applies with the Trials weapons between season 19 and 20
Every single word used to describe Lord of Wolves explains my Riiswalker exactly. Despite having Rifled Barrel, Accurized Rounds, a Range Masterwork, Slideways, and Iron Reach. The thing either maps or deals absolutely no damage. Every time I barrel stuff somebody with it, no damage. Going off of your advice, I'll try to use it as a clean up tool from now on. Maybe my luck will turn
So, the stasis shotgun from this season, the one with the taken effect, im pretty sure it can roll with both envious assassin & cascade point, which makes it pretty fun to use in pve for dps
Laughing in masterworked Adept Comedian with Subsistence/Unrelenting. One of my most loved shotguns as a New Light was Badlander with TD/Rampage, kill counter was in thousands. This machine mowed down so much aliens all over the place... especially in Escalation Protocol up until the IKELOS shotgun finally dropped. Also loved Threat Level in kinetic. 3 shotguns used to be my favorite loadout (Tractor or Acrius in heavy) as a Titan. Ah, the easier days...
I hate shotguns, so naturally I watched all of it, took in the information, looked at my dim and said "I have this" I will now continue to not use any and stick to telesto. But I must say, this is a fantastic video, nice and comprehensive without dragging any information out. Good watch, thanks
The way he said Deicide!! Drove me nuts!! lol First In, Last Out- Love it! Have had Hip Fire and Opening Shot on it forever! Accurized Rounds and Hammerforged as well for an 81 Range!! I have had Heritage since the first week is was craftable. I only have a PvE version crafted with Reconstruction and Recombination though. I’ll have to craft a PvP version and try that combo out!
i absolutely love rapid fire shotguns in pve, forth horst and untill its return pair real well with each other in lower level pve, i personally run overflow and cascade point, it feels like a kinetic 4s horse, and it slaps
Gunnoras axe also can very easily hit 100 range and 80 handling, also has threat detector to stack on top of that Also is the only shotty in the game with volt shot for the pve lovers
I avoid pvp like the plague but it is refreshing for content creators who upload a video of themselves show them getting downed. Most will only post their sizzle reel
FILO Gunnoras and Heritage are the god tier hipfire gods. they got hit a bit with AE changing how these weapons perform in the air, but still amazing. I haven't liked the crosshair changes due to how i used the larger circle to preposition a enemy on the headshot zone, but its still amazing. I miss pre AE lion rampant hipfire godtier slugs.
S tier - Found Verdict - Matador - Heritage - Duality - Conditional Finality A+ - Fractethyst - Imperial Decree - Gunnora's Axe - The Inquisitor - A - - Fortissimo - Riiswalker - Astral Horizon - First In Last Out - Chaperone - B tier - Felwinter's Lie - wastelander - Lord of wolves - Sojourners's Tale - Blashphemer - A sudden Death - Without Remorse - Seventh Seraph CQC - Retold TAle - Compass Rose - C Tier - Prophet of doom - Minebenders Ambition - retrofuturist - Wishbringer - Bone Chiller - Ragnhild - Ness'a Oblation D Tier - No Repreive - Toil and Trouble - Reckless Endagerment - One Small Step - The deicide - Dead Weight - Basso Ostinato - Until Its Return - Fourth Horsemen - last Mand Standing F Tier - Hand in Hand - Xenoclast - Ikelos - Comedian
Honestly gotta agree with this tierlist you hit the nail on the head. OTHER than The Inquisitor. It is not only a stat monster, but even a mediocre roll of the adept version can feel incredible. For me at least it’s by far the most consistent feeling shotgun in the game, and it’s range can really catch people off guard. Being able to run it with exotics like no time to explain or other amazing kinetics really makes it feel versatile and effective. One of the best weapons I’ve ever used in the game. Definitely should be S tier.
Note about AE: Icarus Grip, Extended Mag, and No Backup Plans gets Heritage up to 60AE, which seems to entirely negate the accuracy cone penalty of being airborne if I understand what's happening on the reticle correctly (well, I also have enhanced HFG, so unsure how much that might carry that). AE was probably the biggest culprit in me dropping slug shotguns even though they became my favorite kind of special weapon prior to S17 when that was introduced, so it's cool to think there's a good way to make that work now. I think if you're interested in speccing out a slug for consistent airborne shots, that's probably the minimum: 25 from Icarus Grip and Extended Mag, and 30 from your build (Heat Rises + Ophidians/Eye of Another World is another way to get there; Astrocyte, Wings of Sacred Dawn, Lion Rampant in hipfire, and the buff from Thread of Ascent all do it on their own, as well), and that *should* do it, I think, I'm pretty sure, maybe.
The frame pacing in your clips looks so gloriously consistent. Kinda rare to see in the gaming space sadly. I did however just spend two minutes closing and reopening RUclips before I realized the bar at the bottom of the video was your segment progress display lol.
My Sojourner's Tale has over 2k PVP kills. Fluted, assault mag, threat detector, opening shot, and range MW. Fluted+threat detector maxes out your handling to 100 and bumps your stability to 75. Opening shot gets the range to 96. Assault mag lets fire faster than most other slugs. An S tier shotgun for PvP and easily my favorite legendary shotgun.
Though it's an F-tier in PvP, *Xenoclast* is honestly a beast shotgun for Liar's Handshake builds in PvE. It's my go-to main weapon when playing Arcstrider. It's Arc, has 12P, as well as Graverobber or Slideshot, and is Lightweight frame so gives you more sprint speed (perfect for the CQC playstyle of Arcstrider). Good luck grinding for one, though.
had to chuckle when you said "[the comedian] certainly serves a purpose in pve" which it actually doesn't. :D upside of reckless endangerment is that it's a fixed roll, and a not too shabby fixed roll at that. but lightweights have been hit as a whole, so that's what weighs it down a lot and i really like the detail to the timers on how long you're still gonna talk about a weapon or category. well done
One thing for nessa's oblation is its an adept WITH enhanced perks, so you can run it fully kitted for handling(corkscrew, assault mag, enhanced handling masterwork) with enhanced opening shot which will give you 100 range with 84 handling and 73 aim assist
something i dont see mentioned enough is that finality, even though it wont do damage, will still freeze a sliding antaeus titan, allowing a ohk melee cleanup
I honestly love my Mindbenders in PvP. I have the 5/5 roll and it MAPS people with Fragile Focus. That shotgun brought me into the world of shotgun ape-ing lol (I was a Sniper before, with Fusions being the most aggressive I would get if need be lol)
I dug around in my vault while the A+ section was playing and I have an inquisitor roll(the only trials weapon I have right now since I'm not allowed in trials because I don't own the strand dlc) and its perpetual, opening shot, handling masterwork with fullbore or small bore. Guess its decent yah?
@@CastleContent it's definetly not a bad thing though, like I'm being mentored by Lightning McQueen himself. Only just started watching but I love your content as well
I got an iron reach and auto loading Gunnoras and it has become my go to shotgun. Don’t reload, mad range, fluted and accurised to put the icing on the cake
I know you rag on aggressives for their spread, but if you try removing three pellets from the spread & two from the precision frame, it starts to look a lot closer. I see them as the spread that transforms to whatever you shoot it at. Since you can miss 3 pellets, it doesn't matter if they're running, sliding, or dodging, it just works if they are within range. They really were made as the panic option at close range. Precisions are made for OHKs, same with slugs but they get more range for less versatility at close range lightweights are clean-up, and rapidfires are for PvE
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for the longest time I thought the rapid-fire frame void shotgun was called "The Decide" 😹
I still call it that 👌
Until now for me hahaha
He's still saying it incorrectly, it do be "Dee-ih-side"
@@Jvesper was literally ab to say this lmao
Actually, “die-side” is still the incorrect pronunciation. Its actual name “Deicide” stems from the act of killing a deity. A fitting name for a weapon in this series, but not for this one.
If you like to go on a streak, slideshot + offhand strike Heritage is also really good. After the initial ADS kill you can just keep sliding around without ever wasting time reloading.
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@@Kokomatics hi man
yo sir
You are the shit dude. Great shorts
the absolute best part of this video is the way you edit the light around the gun image to let us know when the next weapon will come up, so amazing and intuitive. love it keep it up
I just gotta say, the editing in this is amazing! The graphics, the time-meter, all really cool and appreciated!
Ngl I disagree with a few of these rankings but the s-tier was on point, fantastic video. as always the work you put in blows me away.
S-tiers are always on point in these ranking videos because they're always so mindnumblingly obvious. I usually just move on to another video once they reach S-tier
@@HasvenWorld you aren't wrong
Conditional Finality just feels good. It doesn't feel broken aside from those rare times you get a collat with the stasis or solar explosion but those are so rare. If the gun held more in the mag then I might say it was too strong but since you have to reload so much nah. It feels like a raid exotic should.
I miss when lightweights were good.
Just use holsters mods, have 2 or 3 makes it reload instantly
it's perfectly balanced in both modes in pve since it's a shotgun and in pvp since its range is low, i love it. wonder how they could make a catalyst for it. i would love something like all shatter/ignition damage you do is increased, make it even more of a monster and your builds are improved since stasis kinda needs help. ignitions are already good tho so idk
Personally I feel powerless against it when I also have a shotgun.
@@dankerbellthe catalyst could give it a third strand shot, or just give it fundamentals and let you change the solar barrel to arc/void
i gave you a like for the gold border indicating time left on an explanation. that is the viewer-friendly kind of editing i want to see youtubers do and you absolutely deserve the bright future your channel has :)
I've actually been having fun with Until Its Return in PvE this season. It's been nice for chunking down the Lucent hive in the dungeon. Last Man Standing also isn't terrible, either! Honestly though, ConditionalFinality is my main PvP shotgun these days. The freeze/ignite feature is rather nice. Also, Prophet of Doom is so underrated. It's actually a killer PvP shotgun, and it can roll with one-two punch for PvE. I have a better Matador, but I love the aesthetic of the garden weapons.
Prophet of doom just can’t compete with matador. I have tried to use it multiple times and it just does not hit it for me.
@@Luketheduke12 Oh I agree, but dang it's hard to put down a gun you love, you know? It's just the coolest looking legendary shotgun to me.
He really doesn't understand the point of rapid fire shotguns. You get the opportunity to kill again if you don't get them the first time.
@@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong okay it that’s pointless lol
Seventh seraph cqc will always have special place in my heart and nothing will change it. Farmed for it with hundreds of umbrals back in arrivals and it never dissapoints me
I agree there is something special about that gun.
Great video.
The editing format and navigation for a longer video hasn’t gone unnoticed.
👍
For the discord perk it will also refund ammo if you get final blows while it is active.
I’ve been running a discord last man from the start of the season and man it’s so much fun, people don’t expect you to mow down the whole enemy team never needing to reload
I love the detail of the guns border filling up as you talk about each gun
HEY. I demand royalties for the footage use.
Solid video overall Castle, can't say I disagree with any of it other than placing LoW as B tier. But GREAT list and great job putting it all together!
I love watching all these informative PvP videos knowing damn well I will never take a step into crucible
Nessus at C Tier is wild 💀 100 handling 100 range extremely high AA w adept targeting and enhanced opening shot. Very interesting take…
Was thinking the same. Mine is adept with max range and handling. I get kills just like the Heritage kills in the video. It’s super snappy and feels like I’m cheating when I use it. Pretty much guaranteed 2 kills every time i spawn in.
One of the best done Destiny info vides ive ever seen. Job very well done. The time frames around the gun and over class time at the bottom of the video is such a great touch. nice job man!
Thank you!!
The reckless endangerment is one of the best shotguns in it's archetype, personally I found it to be just as if not more consistent than a fully crafted without remorse or a godroll Seventh Seraph CQC.
With that being said these 3 shotguns are the best in the lightweight archetype.
They are fast and consistent and do their job well.
These shotguns aren't really much for aping. They can do it, and they can do it fairly well but aggressive and precision's can do it with more consistency, at the cost of having much lower handling.
These 3 shotguns are perfect for punishing overly aggressive players, you get a few shots in with your primary, and you swap to your shotgun in a split second to get that cleanup.
In my opinion these 3 are S tier shotguns as they are consistent and snappy without the use of ophidians. You want a shotgun you want to be able to pull out in a fraction of a second to punish overconfidence and these weapons can do it without the use of exotics like ophidians.
Yo, the editing on this video is amazing, the "loading bar" on every section is a great detail
Conditional finality is one of my favorite weapons in a long time, really opens up a lot of cool plays
You forgot super omega tier. The legend of Acrius. It even has legend in the name and an unbelievable amount of handling.
Dude omg the animated timer on the border of the shotgun showing how long you're talking about that specific gun is SO COOL THAT MUST HAVE TAKEN A WHILE TO EDIT GOOD JOB
Unsure how many people already mentioned it, but those are some very well done animations, with timers on guns and at the bottom of screen, showing how long you talk about specific gun and a tier as a whole.
7:16 I always wondered if the Discord and Harmony perks were a shoutout to Zenyatta's orbs from Overwatch. (Props if you caught the shoutout in one of the earlier weekly missions!). I loved putting my balls on people....
Having fractethyst not in S even tho it is the best precision frame with quick draw opening was criminal
there are a lot of "tier list" videos out there, but i think this one is the best. The explanations are thorough as opposed to "I just don't like this gun so I'm putting it in D Tier" type videos. And the editing is great too!
I just want to say that one of my first rolls for a shotgun was a cracked out found verdict and I still use it a lot. Even after being able to get my hands on lots of other guns, there's just something about that gun. Its just a beast for sure. 😩
Its a little thing but i like the little outline/loading screen aura around the gun image when your talking about it, its a tiny touch bit its such a cool thing to see
this video is so clean! thank you for editing the border in the bottom right corner, allowed me to navigate the video to my leasure
Love the video progress tracker on the weapon icons! Really great. Would leave the overall section tracker behind in future, think it messes with my attention span (want the section to be "over" as the progress bar gets near the end).
Same best part of the edit !!
The border building around the shotgun while you talk about it is so sweet. W video
In regards to discord on the last man standing, you forgot to mention that it refunds special ammo on a kill when you proc the perk. It was in the perk description, and I'm not trying to nitpick. The video is amazing. I just wanted it out there for people who are reading the comments and are wondering.
Ya total brain fart on my end tbh
My first shotgun I used in pvp was a retrofuturist, almost 5/5 God roll, rifled barrel, acurized, Quickdraw, thresh,, with a range masterwork.
It currently sits in my vault with 2139 pvp crucible kills, as I used it in comp and QP to get my super fast. I'll never forget such fond memories.
"The Dieside" 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
D2foundry is AWESOME.
Absolute agree on Seventh Seraph! It kinda gives me the same vibe as the 180hc Trust: You know it's not in the best archetype but it slaps when you need it to and the feel of it is addicting as all hell.
Hey castle I really appreciate this video, I had never really gave duality the time of day but it’s incredible and I got a super easy flawless this week because of it. Thanks again
Epic. It’s truly amazing.
Adept Inquisitor is S tier. The fact this weapon is not only rare but does what it does with such ease no matter the perk combo. That said getting a 5/5 God roll only shows that’s it’s S tier. I love my 4/5 and the fact I do so well with it only proves why it’s S tier. Great list.
Undervalued the role of moving target opening shot on sojourner’s tale when it was praised as stand alone perks on fortísimo
50 shades of Opening Shot was quite informative
Hard disagree on the ranking of Nessa's Oblation. Amazing stats with enhanced opening shot and adept targeting makes it easily the best in slot slug shotgun.
I run rufus/nessas/koraxis a ton in pvp for the free handling and reload. Feels very snappy
That’s what I’m sayin! Makes u question this vid huh? 😂
@@tomakai3460 disagree, each shotgun is a personal opinion and this was his personal opinion, take it for a way to find your own personal shotgun you enjoy using
@@swordfishchaser7 88 AA (Enhanced Adept), 100 Range and Handling idk man 👀 i think it’s an objective truth it don’t belong in C tier
Also firefly is a really fun perk u don’t have the option to use on many slugs
not many content creators for destiny on this level. keep it up
Appreciation comment for the glowing outline of the weapon png indicating how much longer he'll be talking about that gun. Cool
Do remember all of the adept Nightfall weapons from seasons 18 and 19 are all just reskinned in season 20, their perks are literally the same so technically it’s still 3 versions of Mindbenders
Same applies with the Trials weapons between season 19 and 20
Every single word used to describe Lord of Wolves explains my Riiswalker exactly. Despite having Rifled Barrel, Accurized Rounds, a Range Masterwork, Slideways, and Iron Reach. The thing either maps or deals absolutely no damage. Every time I barrel stuff somebody with it, no damage. Going off of your advice, I'll try to use it as a clean up tool from now on. Maybe my luck will turn
So, the stasis shotgun from this season, the one with the taken effect, im pretty sure it can roll with both envious assassin & cascade point, which makes it pretty fun to use in pve for dps
Laughing in masterworked Adept Comedian with Subsistence/Unrelenting.
One of my most loved shotguns as a New Light was Badlander with TD/Rampage, kill counter was in thousands. This machine mowed down so much aliens all over the place... especially in Escalation Protocol up until the IKELOS shotgun finally dropped.
Also loved Threat Level in kinetic. 3 shotguns used to be my favorite loadout (Tractor or Acrius in heavy) as a Titan. Ah, the easier days...
I hate shotguns, so naturally I watched all of it, took in the information, looked at my dim and said "I have this" I will now continue to not use any and stick to telesto. But I must say, this is a fantastic video, nice and comprehensive without dragging any information out. Good watch, thanks
Having a tier list showing everything would be very nice for people that don’t want to watch the entire video
The way he said Deicide!! Drove me nuts!! lol
First In, Last Out- Love it! Have had Hip Fire and Opening Shot on it forever! Accurized Rounds and Hammerforged as well for an 81 Range!!
I have had Heritage since the first week is was craftable. I only have a PvE version crafted with Reconstruction and Recombination though. I’ll have to craft a PvP version and try that combo out!
i absolutely love rapid fire shotguns in pve, forth horst and untill its return pair real well with each other in lower level pve, i personally run overflow and cascade point, it feels like a kinetic 4s horse, and it slaps
Cuz you made the reference now I want a comically long hand cannon with the same animation
Love that you did the tiers in groups made the video flow really well.
I love my Conditinal Finality. Especially when I am my Titan looking like the Doom Slayer with the Hell's Gate theme going.
Couldn’t decide between Reckless Endangerment and Duality. Thanks for the assist! I’ll take your word for it! Duality here I come!
Gunnoras axe also can very easily hit 100 range and 80 handling, also has threat detector to stack on top of that
Also is the only shotty in the game with volt shot for the pve lovers
I have not let Conditional Finality leave my inventory ever since I got it.
I miss lightweights. RIIS and CQC where Some of the best feeling weapons in the game. Excellent video dude.
Seventh Seraph CQC-12 has never let me down. I also can't really explain it, but it's just a solid gun that does exactly what it's supposed to do.
I avoid pvp like the plague but it is refreshing for content creators who upload a video of themselves show them getting downed. Most will only post their sizzle reel
FILO Gunnoras and Heritage are the god tier hipfire gods. they got hit a bit with AE changing how these weapons perform in the air, but still amazing. I haven't liked the crosshair changes due to how i used the larger circle to preposition a enemy on the headshot zone, but its still amazing. I miss pre AE lion rampant hipfire godtier slugs.
Fracty is For Sure S tier
Dude I love this video. Sooo much help I’m just not getting back into D2 I’ll be watching the rest for sure
Really cool timer around the weapon great addition
as someone who mains basso bc no matador i genuinely love the thing. the rocket comes in clutch sometimes ngl.
S tier
- Found Verdict
- Matador
- Heritage
- Duality
- Conditional Finality
A+
- Fractethyst
- Imperial Decree
- Gunnora's Axe
- The Inquisitor
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A -
- Fortissimo
- Riiswalker
- Astral Horizon
- First In Last Out
- Chaperone
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B tier
- Felwinter's Lie
- wastelander
- Lord of wolves
- Sojourners's Tale
- Blashphemer
- A sudden Death
- Without Remorse
- Seventh Seraph CQC
- Retold TAle
- Compass Rose
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C Tier
- Prophet of doom
- Minebenders Ambition
- retrofuturist
- Wishbringer
- Bone Chiller
- Ragnhild
- Ness'a Oblation
D Tier
- No Repreive
- Toil and Trouble
- Reckless Endagerment
- One Small Step
- The deicide
- Dead Weight
- Basso Ostinato
- Until Its Return
- Fourth Horsemen
- last Mand Standing
F Tier
- Hand in Hand
- Xenoclast
- Ikelos
- Comedian
I think you criminally underrated Sojourner's.
Honestly gotta agree with this tierlist you hit the nail on the head. OTHER than The Inquisitor. It is not only a stat monster, but even a mediocre roll of the adept version can feel incredible. For me at least it’s by far the most consistent feeling shotgun in the game, and it’s range can really catch people off guard. Being able to run it with exotics like no time to explain or other amazing kinetics really makes it feel versatile and effective. One of the best weapons I’ve ever used in the game. Definitely should be S tier.
What roll is your God roll?
Note about AE: Icarus Grip, Extended Mag, and No Backup Plans gets Heritage up to 60AE, which seems to entirely negate the accuracy cone penalty of being airborne if I understand what's happening on the reticle correctly (well, I also have enhanced HFG, so unsure how much that might carry that). AE was probably the biggest culprit in me dropping slug shotguns even though they became my favorite kind of special weapon prior to S17 when that was introduced, so it's cool to think there's a good way to make that work now.
I think if you're interested in speccing out a slug for consistent airborne shots, that's probably the minimum: 25 from Icarus Grip and Extended Mag, and 30 from your build (Heat Rises + Ophidians/Eye of Another World is another way to get there; Astrocyte, Wings of Sacred Dawn, Lion Rampant in hipfire, and the buff from Thread of Ascent all do it on their own, as well), and that *should* do it, I think, I'm pretty sure, maybe.
Yoooo I love how he talked up my wishbringer!!
Ok as of July 18 lightweights spread pattern got better so those could maybe move up a tier respectively, we'll see how they do lol
For blasphemer and filo, it’s worth mentioning the opening shot hip fire combo. Then if you add hipfire mod it grants very easy hip fire slug kills.
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@@omfiscientgd8669 not mentioned on blasphemer though
You forgot perfect paradox
Apologies if I missed something, but where was Acrius in this video?
every vid is a banger even after taking a long break from destiny
Liked and subscribed as soon as I realized the box to the right is to show how long you are going to explain that weapon. I am a simple man
Wishbringer slideshot and snapshot, smallbore, accurized, range masterwork. Dont underestimate that second shot. Fast af
The frame pacing in your clips looks so gloriously consistent. Kinda rare to see in the gaming space sadly.
I did however just spend two minutes closing and reopening RUclips before I realized the bar at the bottom of the video was your segment progress display lol.
My Sojourner's Tale has over 2k PVP kills.
Fluted, assault mag, threat detector, opening shot, and range MW.
Fluted+threat detector maxes out your handling to 100 and bumps your stability to 75. Opening shot gets the range to 96. Assault mag lets fire faster than most other slugs.
An S tier shotgun for PvP and easily my favorite legendary shotgun.
Though it's an F-tier in PvP, *Xenoclast* is honestly a beast shotgun for Liar's Handshake builds in PvE. It's my go-to main weapon when playing Arcstrider.
It's Arc, has 12P, as well as Graverobber or Slideshot, and is Lightweight frame so gives you more sprint speed (perfect for the CQC playstyle of Arcstrider).
Good luck grinding for one, though.
had to chuckle when you said "[the comedian] certainly serves a purpose in pve" which it actually doesn't. :D
upside of reckless endangerment is that it's a fixed roll, and a not too shabby fixed roll at that. but lightweights have been hit as a whole, so that's what weighs it down a lot
and i really like the detail to the timers on how long you're still gonna talk about a weapon or category. well done
The Last Man Standing disrespect 😤😤
One thing for nessa's oblation is its an adept WITH enhanced perks, so you can run it fully kitted for handling(corkscrew, assault mag, enhanced handling masterwork) with enhanced opening shot which will give you 100 range with 84 handling and 73 aim assist
Haven't seen the ranking yet, i am just so happy to have died on the hill with mindbenders ambition since fragile focus got a huge buff
Yay. Drawing board is back 🤩🤩
Having any slug over chaperone is criminal
Tbh this "Animation bad" argument is really wierd to me. Wastelander and Chappy should not be this low only because of this imo
something i dont see mentioned enough is that finality, even though it wont do damage, will still freeze a sliding antaeus titan, allowing a ohk melee cleanup
I honestly love my Mindbenders in PvP. I have the 5/5 roll and it MAPS people with Fragile Focus. That shotgun brought me into the world of shotgun ape-ing lol (I was a Sniper before, with Fusions being the most aggressive I would get if need be lol)
congrats on achieving 100k! great tierlist btw.
Thank you Shaudee!
Congrats on 100k! Been watching for years🎉
I dug around in my vault while the A+ section was playing and I have an inquisitor roll(the only trials weapon I have right now since I'm not allowed in trials because I don't own the strand dlc) and its perpetual, opening shot, handling masterwork with fullbore or small bore. Guess its decent yah?
GREAT roll, I recommend smallbore
that’s bullshit that high end pvp is behind a pve paywall bungie needs to get their shit together
I never thought I'd hear Owen Wilson tell me about Destiny 2 weapons. Super helpful video though
LOL do I really sound like him? I get this so often but I don’t hear it haha
@@CastleContent it's definetly not a bad thing though, like I'm being mentored by Lightning McQueen himself. Only just started watching but I love your content as well
I got an iron reach and auto loading Gunnoras and it has become my go to shotgun. Don’t reload, mad range, fluted and accurised to put the icing on the cake
amazing vid btw congrats on 100k
congrats on 100k! u deserve all the attention and more my g
Thank you!!
you did not jut diss the comedian (My fav d1 shotty)
For heritage i recommend offhand strike and a hipfire mod, its going to make it amazing for range and ease of use
This guy got violated 28:56 now I have to go get this weapon 😂
Me who only plays PvE and mains Heritage: look what they need to achieve a fraction of this power
I know you rag on aggressives for their spread, but if you try removing three pellets from the spread & two from the precision frame, it starts to look a lot closer.
I see them as the spread that transforms to whatever you shoot it at. Since you can miss 3 pellets, it doesn't matter if they're running, sliding, or dodging, it just works if they are within range. They really were made as the panic option at close range.
Precisions are made for OHKs, same with slugs but they get more range for less versatility at close range
lightweights are clean-up,
and rapidfires are for PvE
Congrats on 100k!
Ragnhild in C tier is absolutely diabolical 😭😭this was like the number 1 shotgun when witch queen dropped
all the titans and invis hunters taking notes rn
lol fr