Doing a little housekeeping, thought I'd share my impressions of the CK Flex-Loc and CK-80 torches. -------------------------------- Music: "Snack Time" - The Green Orbs
Bruh... Tony is absolutely going to result in my wife discovering all these tools I've been slowly hoarding and consuming more and more of the garage... Tony, any tips on fabricating an interdimentional gateway to hide tools in Karim from another Universes garage?
LMFAO! I was watching with ear buds in place and my wife thought I had finally gone over the edge! I watched it twice just because I laughed so much the first time I missed a lot. Tony, you ARE the most informative AND entertaining machining creator on RUclips! Thanks for making yet another really great video...
I also love my water cooled #9...it's pretty much all I use. Looking forward to your video about building your new TIG cart! Thanks for the excellent content, Tony.
Sir, historically my default paradigm for joining metal has been flux rod arc welding. I feel that I can privately confide in you that I have been having TIG curious thoughts of late. Your implied acceptance and guidance have empowered me to experiment without recrimination. Thank you. Now if I can just learn how to friggin' do it!
"But if you're new to TIG welding, and you're still quite not sure just how often you should be sticking your tungsten into the molten weld puddle" lmao!
Tony, I know how you feel, in regards to your parting comment about simultaneously fixing your Jeep. On top of my full time job I've also been working on my parents house, basically gutted it and redoing everything, and in the middle of all of that the engine block in my Jeep blew up, literally, a good chunk of the block itself is on an interstate somewhere after the connecting rod for cylinder 6 snapped in half and proceeded to act as a hammer to everything around it! Just finished the engine swap while doing everything else I mentioned
Dialysis machines have excellent and relatively quiet magnetically coupled water pumps that will push >800ml/minute. That in and of itself will cut noise by a huge margin over a key coupled pump. You can get parts online, but talk to your nearest hospital, out of spec parts are tossed on the regular, and you don’t need them to be in spec to push some serious water. You have to make sure to talk to the right guy (biomed tech), and handle that thing with gloves until you give it a proper bleaching.
Fully enjoy your comments, thanks! :-) I would add concerning the Flex-Loc; that the angle part on the end of the body where the locking screw is will MELT if it gets too hot, as does the locking screw. Trust me I know. Mine did due to heat reflected from the part being welded. Granted it was a heavy weld that too quite a while.
Always a good laugh ! By the sounds of it I think you have more problems on that vehicle than just the universal, maybe a tune up if it doesn't start any better than that ! 😎 I scream, you scream, we all scream for ICECREAM !! 😆 Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍
I know this was 5 years ago, but I gotta ask. If you attached a piece of aluminum to the bottom screw would that help with the cooling of the torch, and would you ever make one? I feel like you could make a very pretty bolt with holes.
just bought a cheapo flex 17 off ebay with some stubby pyrex cups for about 10 bucks...... we'll see how many inches of weld that one makes it through, i put the over under at 5 inches (about 10 puddle dips for me)
I would like to know how you make that adaptor or if you're willing to sell a few of them because I've been looking all over the places and I cant find something that will fit a 17 tig hose to a CK 80 tig tourch, asking because I work in the industry and I do a lot of position welds as a sub
As a pipe welder I will never use anything else than a Kemppi dual swivel. You can point it anywhere, and no copper flex tubes that starts leaking after a few bends. imgur.com/a/VPQgc
They should put a copy of all your videos on the next gold record that goes into space, so that alien civilizations might know that we're not all animals.
Water cooler: If it doesn't have to go below room temperature (which I think would probably be bad, condensation and all that), then computer water cooling parts (like the radiators used) might be an option - they are designed to be very quiet and even a relatively small radiator (like a triple 120 mm radiator) will sink 500+ Watts continuously. A car cooler could also be an option but that's perhaps a bit oversized and unwieldy.
I just looked at the "HTP Arctic Chill 5460" and that one is rated for 1.6 kW cooling capacity and almost 4 kW maximum cooling capacity. That's quite something. 1.6 kW shouldn't be a problem with a big PC radiator, but 4 kW is probably pushing it.
TOT please start a patreon page. I feel as though I've been ripping you off. The amount of knowledge and hours of entertainment deserve compensation. I respect you not trying to make a living from you videos but even if I'm the only one who contributes, please take my money
+1 for turning your MIG into a cold wire feeder. I did it with my Millermatic 135 ( I made both a torch mount wire feeder and a freehand feeder with the existing microswitch). The main downfall is always wanting/needing to fine-tune the wire speed, and the torch mount feeder cannot get into tight places. It works great for simple repetitive production work though.
Tony, I think this was one of your best written scripts so far. You have honed your craft like a guy that scrapes in his own straight edges or builds a go-kart to save having to carry a chainsaw to the curb. Bravo.
Jody's engagement ring😂🤣😂🤣 I kept seeing it in the background, thought you might mention it...... spit water across the room when you said that. Great video!!!
I paused the video, waited for my wife to finish showering, then made her come listen to your canadian joke. Expected her to react, but apparently I'm weird for thinking it was absolute gold
Sounds like the problem you both ran in to was forgetting to allow your better 3/4 to get dressed before dragging them into the garage to watch this video on your dusty shop 'puter.
I can't tell you how many times I've tried to share humor with my wife, only for her to look at me like I'm an idiot. And I am. But I know funny. I don't try any longer.
Theball Player: I tend to get excited wanting to share something and remember all the times walking away feeling like an idiot. Kinda glad to see im not the only one.
Brother you are a trip 😝😂 I can't get enough of your vids they are very helpful. I am about to jump into welding, what machine would you recommend that won't break the bank for a bigger? The bro
Jason B Thermal Arc is what I have at home. 95 amp with a TIG setup does everything I need for less than 400 bucks (that was the price 8 years ago). Used would be way cheaper...
I just bought a cheap Hawk Tig-200 DC machine on ebay, hoping to be able to give people some advice on that when it arrives. Really seems like IGBT tech is making DC tig machines cheap as chips these days without being scrap "chinesium" rubbish but haven't taken delivery yet so can't actually confirm that :P
Jason B love my esab mini arc 161 lts even for tig. Down fall is no foot control and valve torch but smooth arc and plenty of power and a great stick welder as well and runs on 110/220v
Jason B I would suggest getting something you can get parts or service for. Some of the cheap Chinese made stuff is pretty much throw away when it breaks. Nobody seems to want to fix or provide parts for some of the really cheap stuff. Just my 2 cents.
Love the "Gravity Wells" comment. You shook do a video on that. One of the engineers I used to work with called it the "universal law of flat surfaces" and had a formula to predict the rate of accumulation.
Nice one, i enjoyed the car content, couple of things, that doesn't sound like 2,1 or a 2,5 liter engine, and did you use loctite on the u joint bolts?
I've become pretty good at dipping my tungsten in a molten puddle....and for my next trick i'll spend 20 more mins cursing and throwing things just before I spend more time at the grinding wheel.....
I did not get the reference nor irony of the warning at 13:00 "Danger! Do not TIG weld ON the sun! (MIG only)" Does it have something to do with jewlery and high amperage? TOT, Love your videoes!
Better every time Tony...busted me up multiple times and learned a lot. Thanks! Your brilliance is showing through. Standup, Machinist, Engineer, fabricator, time traveling wizard and extraordinary gentleman in a league of your own. ~Diseradati'PJ
Hey Tony thanks for the effort you put in and the knowledge you pass along. If you can make enough mistakes and bad choices ... I... should have a nicely equipped shop! ... To your legal team ( and I can only assume it's a CRACK LEGAL TEAM ), it is safe to weld on the sun, BUT, only if done at night.
Gravity wells? Outside the scope of the video he says?? BAHHhh :/ Producer's... always hinting at their next blockbuster. Thhhh Thhhh thaaats it falks! Baa daaa daaa dummm dummm Doo!!
I just ordered a ck150 flexloc torch with the super flex hose. Definitely looking forward to getting back into tig after 5 years or so…needless to say I’m rewatching all your tig specific videos
If the flex lock screw is a consumable then I believe you possess enough knowledge to create a lock screw made of 100% metal (insulated with ceramic or something else.) I would think that wouldn't be consumable at that point right? That's my million dollar business idea for you, we can discuss royalties later.
I don't know how useful this would be, I don't know how much overlap there is with fittings or whatever else. but there's a community for doing custom watercooling setups for desktop computers, and there's lots of places to find good copper radiators and PC cooling fans. might be worth taking a look at, I have no idea
I built a cheap watercooler using a 230v ac to 12v dc power supply, a 2 fan pc radiator with 2 120mm fans and a 12v RV pump. Under 200 dollars all brand new. Only problem with the RV pump was too much flow causing the pump to stop. Fixed that with a bypass loop. Now running 5 litres per minute flow but can go up or down by opening or closing the bypass. By going with a 12v setup the entire unit is low voltage and with using a ac to dc adapter I can use the output on my European Everlast's 325 Ext to power the whole shebang.
I know this might be too much to ask but could you PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE upload a oxy butt weld video? I havent found any good shot and im having trouble to get AWS qualification. Thanks!
Tony, the reason city water is terrible for touches is galvanic corrosion (link below), basically it is corrosion due to dissimilar metals. Somplace in your hose it is liley you have brass fittings this is a dissimilar metal, steel (older house) or polypropylene newer houses are neutral in the corrosion scale, also the silver in the solder used in the joints helps to counteract and prevent this corrosion. In copper pipes this is really not a problem due to the thickness, surface area and solder it takes something like 100+ years for it to really be a problem if at all. But when your talking about heat transfer fins similar to what we use in CPU water blocks (Image Link below) even a minimal amount of corrosion can result in complete blockage of the water passages. Glad i could share some of my knowledge since you have given me so much ;-) Galvanic Corrosion Information (Wikipedia) - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanic_corrosion Image of a CPU Water-cooling Block - www.frostytech.com/articleimages/201204/CorsairH100_cu1.jpg
You have to get a CK "Steady-Grip" I laughed my tits off when i saw that. Honestly I have no tits now. Also Carl Kammerling rang, they want there trademark back.
I got a TIG welder for Christmas because I wanted to be cool like Tony. Now I have to get a water-cooled torch too?!
how'd you get in here? I thought I had more than enough hydraulic gradient. ;)
Don't forget, coolest thing now is liquid nitrogen cooled. So you inches behind.
Bruh... Tony is absolutely going to result in my wife discovering all these tools I've been slowly hoarding and consuming more and more of the garage... Tony, any tips on fabricating an interdimentional gateway to hide tools in Karim from another Universes garage?
Hey! I'm not stupid... show me the ice cream THEN I'll get in the van.
hahah
LMFAO! I was watching with ear buds in place and my wife thought I had finally gone over the edge! I watched it twice just because I laughed so much the first time I missed a lot. Tony, you ARE the most informative AND entertaining machining creator on RUclips! Thanks for making yet another really great video...
Thanks Fred!
The gravitational well! Of course! This explains everything that has been happening to my garage and work areas.
Oh please we really need an Advanced Topics for Homegamers video!
especially if it involves gravity wells :)
Please also cover the curse of horizontal space, and the 'project critical point dinners ready' paradox!
Moraren yes please :)
I also love my water cooled #9...it's pretty much all I use. Looking forward to your video about building your new TIG cart! Thanks for the excellent content, Tony.
Sir, historically my default paradigm for joining metal has been flux rod arc welding. I feel that I can privately confide in you that I have been having TIG curious thoughts of late. Your implied acceptance and guidance have empowered me to experiment without recrimination. Thank you. Now if I can just learn how to friggin' do it!
"But if you're new to TIG welding, and you're still quite not sure just how often you should be sticking your tungsten into the molten weld puddle" lmao!
Definitely the fluoride. XD
And I love your metric conversions.
This was great. Funny and smart.
Canadian version is smaller... Ha! Most things are smaller when you compare them to Canada. Even Texas ;)
Nah, I think it's just the projection, don't use Mercator, use Goode homolosine and it shrinks considerably ;)
Dude. Too much information. I don't think this is an appropriate place to discuss what brand of homolosine you use.
Love the banter. Subscribed.
1:23 to 1:48 had me in tears!!!
Tony, I know how you feel, in regards to your parting comment about simultaneously fixing your Jeep. On top of my full time job I've also been working on my parents house, basically gutted it and redoing everything, and in the middle of all of that the engine block in my Jeep blew up, literally, a good chunk of the block itself is on an interstate somewhere after the connecting rod for cylinder 6 snapped in half and proceeded to act as a hammer to everything around it! Just finished the engine swap while doing everything else I mentioned
Dialysis machines have excellent and relatively quiet magnetically coupled water pumps that will push >800ml/minute. That in and of itself will cut noise by a huge margin over a key coupled pump. You can get parts online, but talk to your nearest hospital, out of spec parts are tossed on the regular, and you don’t need them to be in spec to push some serious water. You have to make sure to talk to the right guy (biomed tech), and handle that thing with gloves until you give it a proper bleaching.
soupisgdfood
Another reason why I read comments....... dang good information ! 👍
Thanks
Nice Tig Torch Talk.... and I want my loonie back! ;-)
Fully enjoy your comments, thanks! :-)
I would add concerning the Flex-Loc; that the angle part on the end of the body where the locking screw is will MELT if it gets too hot, as does the locking screw. Trust me I know. Mine did due to heat reflected from the part being welded. Granted it was a heavy weld that too quite a while.
Always a good laugh !
By the sounds of it I think you have more problems on that vehicle than just the universal, maybe a tune up if it doesn't start any better than that ! 😎
I scream, you scream, we all scream for ICECREAM !! 😆
Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍
Fluoride. "That's gold Jerry!"
Miller coolmate 3x very quiet. Have it attached to a Miller 250 syncrowave DX
For those that are interested the CK-80 is a WP-24 style torch.
Nice Video!
tHIS oLD tONY...ALL CLASS.
thanks for the ice cream, made my day.
Wanted: Movie length "Origins" to compete with "Back to the future".
I know this was 5 years ago, but I gotta ask.
If you attached a piece of aluminum to the bottom screw would that help with the cooling of the torch, and would you ever make one? I feel like you could make a very pretty bolt with holes.
just bought a cheapo flex 17 off ebay with some stubby pyrex cups for about 10 bucks...... we'll see how many inches of weld that one makes it through, i put the over under at 5 inches (about 10 puddle dips for me)
yay icecream!
'Jodie's engagement ring', I thought I felt off met chair. You are ready funny. Sorry Jodie.
Thanks for watching,
Keep your TIG in a vice.:-)
wera makes some really nice hollow nut drivers
6:50
5:15 MAJOR SHOTS FIRED AT AvE
tig welding makes me pull my hair out. good at every other welding, just can't manage tig.😩
How often should I dip tungsten in molten metal? I'm asking for a friend.
What are your thoughts on clear pyrex cups and gas lenses?
Pictured helmet melting to my face...lol.
Comment #2 this old 2 step Tony
Where was my Australian coin :( Now I've no clue how big it is!
Sorry T6P4C, I spent it before the video. ;)
I would like to know how you make that adaptor or if you're willing to sell a few of them because I've been looking all over the places and I cant find something that will fit a 17 tig hose to a CK 80 tig tourch, asking because I work in the industry and I do a lot of position welds as a sub
Took me over an hour just to get into the car... now I have to get back out? And there is NO ICE CREAM?
As a pipe welder I will never use anything else than a Kemppi dual swivel. You can point it anywhere, and no copper flex tubes that starts leaking after a few bends.
imgur.com/a/VPQgc
crazy, I'd never seen one of those before.
Can you use a water cooler from a PC?
Tony. We have to talk about your tigtorch-addiction. I know you can stop whenever you want, but this got out of hand.
I just need ONE MORE i swear. just one.
All three styles of Microtorch!
And a regular Pencil-Torch!
@@ThisOldTony you should try the bincel flex lock tigtorch, im a welder and that the one i usualy go for
They should put a copy of all your videos on the next gold record that goes into space, so that alien civilizations might know that we're not all animals.
You do realise you've jinxed yourself into a Wire Feeder, a Welding Cart AND a Water Cooler build video?
You know, my wife picked up on that too. ;)
Water cooler: If it doesn't have to go below room temperature (which I think would probably be bad, condensation and all that), then computer water cooling parts (like the radiators used) might be an option - they are designed to be very quiet and even a relatively small radiator (like a triple 120 mm radiator) will sink 500+ Watts continuously. A car cooler could also be an option but that's perhaps a bit oversized and unwieldy.
I just looked at the "HTP Arctic Chill 5460" and that one is rated for 1.6 kW cooling capacity and almost 4 kW maximum cooling capacity. That's quite something. 1.6 kW shouldn't be a problem with a big PC radiator, but 4 kW is probably pushing it.
TOT please start a patreon page. I feel as though I've been ripping you off. The amount of knowledge and hours of entertainment deserve compensation. I respect you not trying to make a living from you videos but even if I'm the only one who contributes, please take my money
Thanks James -- I appreciate the sentiment!
+1 for turning your MIG into a cold wire feeder. I did it with my Millermatic 135 ( I made both a torch mount wire feeder and a freehand feeder with the existing microswitch). The main downfall is always wanting/needing to fine-tune the wire speed, and the torch mount feeder cannot get into tight places. It works great for simple repetitive production work though.
Tony, I think this was one of your best written scripts so far. You have honed your craft like a guy that scrapes in his own straight edges or builds a go-kart to save having to carry a chainsaw to the curb. Bravo.
He uses script?
he can write?
He has sight?
All scripts submitted to This Old Tony are carefully reviewed and only the best make it to the big screen. :)
This Old Tony 👍👍
Like first, then watch the video. Never goes wrong on this channel :)
Absolutely.
So you are saying universe doesn't decide how many times that tip is dipped into the molten metal it's me?
Rethinking life choices, please wait...
So the tip is not supposed to dip?
@@phillhuddleston9445 Tip-dippers unite!!!
"not sure how often to dip your tungsten into ..." :) :) :)
Jody's engagement ring😂🤣😂🤣 I kept seeing it in the background, thought you might mention it...... spit water across the room when you said that. Great video!!!
I never leave home without out it! Though I don't know why people keep asking me what I did to my fingers.
This Old Tony me neither! Tigfinger 4 life!!
These vigeos are more like mechanical therapy. Life is good when you have Tony:) Thank you Tony!
Your CK-80 looks like the perfect tool to re-attach my detached retina of left eye.
I paused the video, waited for my wife to finish showering, then made her come listen to your canadian joke. Expected her to react, but apparently I'm weird for thinking it was absolute gold
Ye dont worry, I check it for you, after reading your comment made mine listen to it to, same reaction, so probably just "women" in general XD
Sounds like the problem you both ran in to was forgetting to allow your better 3/4 to get dressed before dragging them into the garage to watch this video on your dusty shop 'puter.
I can't tell you how many times I've tried to share humor with my wife, only for her to look at me like I'm an idiot. And I am. But I know funny.
I don't try any longer.
Theball Player: I tend to get excited wanting to share something and remember all the times walking away feeling like an idiot. Kinda glad to see im not the only one.
Just ask yourself first “is making her laugh in your job description “?
Brother you are a trip 😝😂 I can't get enough of your vids they are very helpful. I am about to jump into welding, what machine would you recommend that won't break the bank for a bigger? The bro
Jason B Thermal Arc is what I have at home. 95 amp with a TIG setup does everything I need for less than 400 bucks (that was the price 8 years ago). Used would be way cheaper...
I just bought a cheap Hawk Tig-200 DC machine on ebay, hoping to be able to give people some advice on that when it arrives. Really seems like IGBT tech is making DC tig machines cheap as chips these days without being scrap "chinesium" rubbish but haven't taken delivery yet so can't actually confirm that :P
Jason B love my esab mini arc 161 lts even for tig. Down fall is no foot control and valve torch but smooth arc and plenty of power and a great stick welder as well and runs on 110/220v
Everlast!
Jason B
I would suggest getting something you can get parts or service for. Some of the cheap Chinese made stuff is pretty much throw away when it breaks. Nobody seems to want to fix or provide parts for some of the really cheap stuff. Just my 2 cents.
Love the "Gravity Wells" comment. You shook do a video on that. One of the engineers I used to work with called it the "universal law of flat surfaces" and had a formula to predict the rate of accumulation.
You really went full Canadian with the jokes. TOT is the happiest place on RUclips.
I'm a big fan of your humour, your videos very entertaining, better than some comedians I've heard.
This oughtta make my my day less horrible 👌
"Jody's engagement ring" XD
No Norwegian kroner coin!!?? How am I supposed to judge the size of this?
Don't be silly, you saw the same coin comparison as the rest of us; the torch changes size depending on your currency !
The reason the Canadian version of the torch is smaller is a strange side-effect of the Mercator projection.
Nice one, i enjoyed the car content, couple of things, that doesn't sound like 2,1 or a 2,5 liter engine, and did you use loctite on the u joint bolts?
The gravity well is so true! Hahahaha
I've become pretty good at dipping my tungsten in a molten puddle....and for my next trick i'll spend 20 more mins cursing and throwing things just before I spend more time at the grinding wheel.....
I did not get the reference nor irony of the warning at 13:00 "Danger! Do not TIG weld ON the sun! (MIG only)" Does it have something to do with jewlery and high amperage?
TOT, Love your videoes!
Better every time Tony...busted me up multiple times and learned a lot. Thanks! Your brilliance is showing through. Standup, Machinist, Engineer, fabricator, time traveling wizard and extraordinary gentleman in a league of your own. ~Diseradati'PJ
Soooo much more interesting than that sleep thing I should be doing...
"my car fumbled the driveshaft" LOL
You used to weld more than you..... ahem.... current ly do? :P
I’ll see myself out.
"I like to sweat the small stuff" priceless, truly priceless!
LOL! Thanks Tony for converting to Canadian for us!
Where is my icecream?????!?!?!?!?!?!
Yeah... now I'm stuck with ice cream on my mind and none in my freezer... Thanks Tony!!
We were promised ice cream and I'm not leaving until I get mine.
only use MIG - and only weld there at night.
You must think us metric folks up north are really loonies
this isn t only great information. this is great entertainment on top. thx a lot.
Is there an actual number of times I should be dipping my tungsten, I just do it as often as I can
Just had to comment on the entertainment content of your work. You my friend are a talent. Keep them coming. Its great to learn from you
Hey Tony thanks for the effort you put in and the knowledge you pass along. If you can make enough mistakes and bad choices ... I... should have a nicely equipped shop! ... To your legal team ( and I can only assume it's a CRACK LEGAL TEAM ), it is safe to weld on the sun, BUT, only if done at night.
Just another outstanding video and the humor just makes it that much better. Look forward to the next one!
6:20 - 6:29 Oh man that was a little too real for me
Damn, I was so not paying attention to the jeep axle rebuild!
Your videos are both funny, and informative. Thanks for reporting/sharing on this HOT topic! :-)
Needs more cow bell.
Don't Fear the Reaper. :-)
Bit of teflon on those threads wouldn't help?
Hmm maybe a quarter drive deep socket would get into that lens.
The trouble was... You bought a Jeep!
Man if that engine was actualy your car, then man you need to clean that carb quick!
Gravity wells? Outside the scope of the video he says?? BAHHhh :/ Producer's... always hinting at their next blockbuster. Thhhh Thhhh thaaats it falks! Baa daaa daaa dummm dummm Doo!!
I just ordered a ck150 flexloc torch with the super flex hose. Definitely looking forward to getting back into tig after 5 years or so…needless to say I’m rewatching all your tig specific videos
Spot - on explanation of the empty space phenomenon. I've noticed signs of it in every shop I've been in.
My Garage is full of Gravity Wells... Airbrush T-Shirts....LoL.. Love your Vids!!!!!!! Funny and Educational.
If the flex lock screw is a consumable then I believe you possess enough knowledge to create a lock screw made of 100% metal (insulated with ceramic or something else.) I would think that wouldn't be consumable at that point right? That's my million dollar business idea for you, we can discuss royalties later.
I don't know how useful this would be, I don't know how much overlap there is with fittings or whatever else. but there's a community for doing custom watercooling setups for desktop computers, and there's lots of places to find good copper radiators and PC cooling fans. might be worth taking a look at, I have no idea
TOT, you cant imagine the joy I feel just before I open one of your videos. Keep them coming young man. Regards. Joe.
Thanks Joe!
I built a cheap watercooler using a 230v ac to 12v dc power supply, a 2 fan pc radiator with 2 120mm fans and a 12v RV pump. Under 200 dollars all brand new.
Only problem with the RV pump was too much flow causing the pump to stop. Fixed that with a bypass loop. Now running 5 litres per minute flow but can go up or down by opening or closing the bypass.
By going with a 12v setup the entire unit is low voltage and with using a ac to dc adapter I can use the output on my European Everlast's 325 Ext to power the whole shebang.
I know this might be too much to ask but could you PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE upload a oxy butt weld video? I havent found any good shot and im having trouble to get AWS qualification. Thanks!
Tony, the reason city water is terrible for touches is galvanic corrosion (link below), basically it is corrosion due to dissimilar metals. Somplace in your hose it is liley you have brass fittings this is a dissimilar metal, steel (older house) or polypropylene newer houses are neutral in the corrosion scale, also the silver in the solder used in the joints helps to counteract and prevent this corrosion. In copper pipes this is really not a problem due to the thickness, surface area and solder it takes something like 100+ years for it to really be a problem if at all. But when your talking about heat transfer fins similar to what we use in CPU water blocks (Image Link below) even a minimal amount of corrosion can result in complete blockage of the water passages.
Glad i could share some of my knowledge since you have given me so much ;-)
Galvanic Corrosion Information (Wikipedia) - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanic_corrosion
Image of a CPU Water-cooling Block - www.frostytech.com/articleimages/201204/CorsairH100_cu1.jpg
You have to get a CK "Steady-Grip" I laughed my tits off when i saw that. Honestly I have no tits now. Also Carl Kammerling rang, they want there trademark back.