Doing a little housekeeping, thought I'd share my impressions of the CK Flex-Loc and CK-80 torches. -------------------------------- Music: "Snack Time" - The Green Orbs
Bruh... Tony is absolutely going to result in my wife discovering all these tools I've been slowly hoarding and consuming more and more of the garage... Tony, any tips on fabricating an interdimentional gateway to hide tools in Karim from another Universes garage?
Tony, I think this was one of your best written scripts so far. You have honed your craft like a guy that scrapes in his own straight edges or builds a go-kart to save having to carry a chainsaw to the curb. Bravo.
Tony I am really addicted on watching your videos. I am an amateur TIG welder and i enjoy watching your simple way of approach with tig welding explanation. i hope in in near future to make a video with a DIY tungsten grinder. I am sure that a lot of viewers will enjoy it .
+1 for turning your MIG into a cold wire feeder. I did it with my Millermatic 135 ( I made both a torch mount wire feeder and a freehand feeder with the existing microswitch). The main downfall is always wanting/needing to fine-tune the wire speed, and the torch mount feeder cannot get into tight places. It works great for simple repetitive production work though.
Better every time Tony...busted me up multiple times and learned a lot. Thanks! Your brilliance is showing through. Standup, Machinist, Engineer, fabricator, time traveling wizard and extraordinary gentleman in a league of your own. ~Diseradati'PJ
Jody's engagement ring😂🤣😂🤣 I kept seeing it in the background, thought you might mention it...... spit water across the room when you said that. Great video!!!
LMFAO! I was watching with ear buds in place and my wife thought I had finally gone over the edge! I watched it twice just because I laughed so much the first time I missed a lot. Tony, you ARE the most informative AND entertaining machining creator on RUclips! Thanks for making yet another really great video...
I also love my water cooled #9...it's pretty much all I use. Looking forward to your video about building your new TIG cart! Thanks for the excellent content, Tony.
Love the "Gravity Wells" comment. You shook do a video on that. One of the engineers I used to work with called it the "universal law of flat surfaces" and had a formula to predict the rate of accumulation.
I paused the video, waited for my wife to finish showering, then made her come listen to your canadian joke. Expected her to react, but apparently I'm weird for thinking it was absolute gold
Sounds like the problem you both ran in to was forgetting to allow your better 3/4 to get dressed before dragging them into the garage to watch this video on your dusty shop 'puter.
I can't tell you how many times I've tried to share humor with my wife, only for her to look at me like I'm an idiot. And I am. But I know funny. I don't try any longer.
Theball Player: I tend to get excited wanting to share something and remember all the times walking away feeling like an idiot. Kinda glad to see im not the only one.
I just ordered a ck150 flexloc torch with the super flex hose. Definitely looking forward to getting back into tig after 5 years or so…needless to say I’m rewatching all your tig specific videos
Tony, I recently purchased a CK watercooled flex-loc for a Dynasty 280 DX, after using a air cooled flex loc for the last 4 years. It was definitely worth the money! Yes, the head does stay cooler than you would think. (I was worried no water to the head part), through a little bit warmer than a regular watercooled torch. However they seem to work very well. I would purchase it again in a heartbeat. Thanks for the good videos and information!
Totally agree, Ive used the 230 amp rated 9 series flex-loc for 3 years now on a 250 amp machine with no worries, I have yet to go through any of the consumable thumbscrews either! I dont floor it to all 250 amps very often but it has definitely made some nice puddles in thick aluminum. I think an extra 20 amps a few times a year on a brand like CK is no problemo.
They should put a copy of all your videos on the next gold record that goes into space, so that alien civilizations might know that we're not all animals.
I just bought my first welder this summer: a Lincoln 140 MIG. But watching your vids makes me want to try TIG! I've heard it's tough to learn but you make it look too easy! ( your go-kart build). Anyway, I get inspired watching your work, and envious of your tools! Cheers.
I use CK’s “I” ball torch for my flexible water cooled torch, ❤️I also use the track amp controller ~ good and bad mostly good! Dynasty 200DX machine and coolmate 4 cooler, yes it’s louder than yours but it’s rated to 600 amps of torch or mig gun! My skills suck after brain damage, but I am hopeful to Tig again! Eh it’s only been six years, love your channel, keep up the great video coming! Paul
Dude lol that comment about free space in the shop, pure gold! I totally know the feeling, my girlfriend and I cleaned the ever-loving crap out of our landlord/roommate's garage, and within days the garage was magically almost as full of crap as it was before we cleaned it. And the crap outside is still there! Where is all this crap coming from?!
TOT please start a patreon page. I feel as though I've been ripping you off. The amount of knowledge and hours of entertainment deserve compensation. I respect you not trying to make a living from you videos but even if I'm the only one who contributes, please take my money
Very good video as always. I recently upgraded my everlast 200 to a 20 series (watercooled version of 9) swivel lock torch from ck, it's very comfortable to use and the water cooling keeps the torch body and swivel almost completely cool. The torch head does get quite hot, but the mounting screw never does. I feel like it's rated 230amps might be pushing it but suits my 200 amp machine perfectly. I can defiantly recommend trying it for the htp.
After I built my water cooler, my first new torch was a FL230. I love it to bits! It runs cool as anything even at 200A. I went with the Shurflo pump in the cooler, I must say I'm disappointed with how quiet it isn't. Also at 1.4gpm it takes 90psi to push water through the flex loc torch handle. Can't wait to see your water cooler when it comes together!
For a quiet cooler one option is to skip the fan / radiator and just use a larger container. I've had a few over the years, some commercial, some homemade. I know your space is also at a premium, but you can build some of it into your cart. My fav, was one I built that was the same size as an argon bottle. Just an aluminum box with a small submersible pump. It fit on the cart in the second bottle holder.
Sir, historically my default paradigm for joining metal has been flux rod arc welding. I feel that I can privately confide in you that I have been having TIG curious thoughts of late. Your implied acceptance and guidance have empowered me to experiment without recrimination. Thank you. Now if I can just learn how to friggin' do it!
Water cooler: If it doesn't have to go below room temperature (which I think would probably be bad, condensation and all that), then computer water cooling parts (like the radiators used) might be an option - they are designed to be very quiet and even a relatively small radiator (like a triple 120 mm radiator) will sink 500+ Watts continuously. A car cooler could also be an option but that's perhaps a bit oversized and unwieldy.
I just looked at the "HTP Arctic Chill 5460" and that one is rated for 1.6 kW cooling capacity and almost 4 kW maximum cooling capacity. That's quite something. 1.6 kW shouldn't be a problem with a big PC radiator, but 4 kW is probably pushing it.
I have the water cooled version of the flex loc and love it. However it's also the only torch I've ever used as I was taught by a professional welder who recommended it. I find I can always manipulate it to get the optimal angle no matter what I'm doing. Go get one Tony!!
Tony I did this (bought just a torch body) to be able to swap back and forth from a 24 and 20 on my water cooled setup. I needed to do some cylinder head work at 200A and the smallest torch was the only way. Sell your MIG and buy a water cooler! I also just made a brass wedge collet so I could stop warping the copper standard units.
On my dads setup, he made a 5gal or so aluminum tank with a removable lid and gasket, inside is a small 110v submersible sump pump. For fluid he uses regular antifreeze so he doesn't have to worry about it freezing when the shop heat isn't on...the pump is quiet and the aluminum tank acts as the heat sink...this is on a syncrowave 250...never had a hot hand using it.
Always a good laugh ! By the sounds of it I think you have more problems on that vehicle than just the universal, maybe a tune up if it doesn't start any better than that ! 😎 I scream, you scream, we all scream for ICECREAM !! 😆 Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍
The special tool is a "NUT DRIVER"! You can buy a set to get just one, or try the flea market. You know them, generally like a screwdriver with a tiny socket on the working end, and the shank is hollow, so that extended electrode goes right in there. It's a treat!
"But if you're new to TIG welding, and you're still quite not sure just how often you should be sticking your tungsten into the molten weld puddle" lmao!
Tony, I know how you feel, in regards to your parting comment about simultaneously fixing your Jeep. On top of my full time job I've also been working on my parents house, basically gutted it and redoing everything, and in the middle of all of that the engine block in my Jeep blew up, literally, a good chunk of the block itself is on an interstate somewhere after the connecting rod for cylinder 6 snapped in half and proceeded to act as a hammer to everything around it! Just finished the engine swap while doing everything else I mentioned
Hey Tony! Yet another great video. Since you seem to be int the frame of mind to educate us about all the different aspects of certain tools in your shop, I've got an idea for an episode: Milling machine bits. For instance when would you use a 2 flute mill instead of a 4 flute mill? What are the drawbacks of each one. Finishing mils vs. roughing mills. What types of tools work best with which materials? When would you use a fly cutter over a face mill? I think there are lots of good nuggets to uncover on this subject. Thanks again for the great content!
I built a cheap watercooler using a 230v ac to 12v dc power supply, a 2 fan pc radiator with 2 120mm fans and a 12v RV pump. Under 200 dollars all brand new. Only problem with the RV pump was too much flow causing the pump to stop. Fixed that with a bypass loop. Now running 5 litres per minute flow but can go up or down by opening or closing the bypass. By going with a 12v setup the entire unit is low voltage and with using a ac to dc adapter I can use the output on my European Everlast's 325 Ext to power the whole shebang.
Fully enjoy your comments, thanks! :-) I would add concerning the Flex-Loc; that the angle part on the end of the body where the locking screw is will MELT if it gets too hot, as does the locking screw. Trust me I know. Mine did due to heat reflected from the part being welded. Granted it was a heavy weld that too quite a while.
Very good video. , the Torches are Gas cooled, The amperage is rated for example 40% or 50% for a welding time of 10 min so it means by 40 % you can weld 4 min and 6 min cool down and so on. Even with a torch rated for 240 amps the maximum continuous welding is about 90 to 100 amps, depending on the size of the Torch, another thing, you can expand the welding time is, to use a Tungsten 3,2 mm, or even a 4mm size, but continuous welding over 100 amps require a Water cooled machine , if you don't want to melt your torches or burn your finger thru the cloves. If you weld a lot of Alu or Copper it is vital to have liquid cooled machine. And it is also vital buy the Hose packages as long as you can . I also prefer a Torch with on off switches and current control ,rather than a foot switch you always searching for it , also you can go around your workpiece without dragging the damn foot switch and the machine around.Who is welding on the same place? Only a Robot? Or dragging the workpiece to the place where you sit, so you can weld with a foot switch , good luck with that and for you back bones.
Brother you are a trip 😝😂 I can't get enough of your vids they are very helpful. I am about to jump into welding, what machine would you recommend that won't break the bank for a bigger? The bro
Jason B Thermal Arc is what I have at home. 95 amp with a TIG setup does everything I need for less than 400 bucks (that was the price 8 years ago). Used would be way cheaper...
I just bought a cheap Hawk Tig-200 DC machine on ebay, hoping to be able to give people some advice on that when it arrives. Really seems like IGBT tech is making DC tig machines cheap as chips these days without being scrap "chinesium" rubbish but haven't taken delivery yet so can't actually confirm that :P
Jason B love my esab mini arc 161 lts even for tig. Down fall is no foot control and valve torch but smooth arc and plenty of power and a great stick welder as well and runs on 110/220v
Jason B I would suggest getting something you can get parts or service for. Some of the cheap Chinese made stuff is pretty much throw away when it breaks. Nobody seems to want to fix or provide parts for some of the really cheap stuff. Just my 2 cents.
I have both an air cooled and water cooler flex-loc. Love them, but stopped using them do to the noise they make giving me a headache. Now I just use a flex head water cooled. I think the 9 series is air cooled and the 20 is water cooled, but still the same size torch and consumables. Loved the Canadian torch joke!
You can definitely hear water going through a regular wp20 -- it makes more noise than that? (WP20 doesn't bother me. In fact I hardly notice it). I had some bad experiences with flex head torches in the past. I fiddle too much, maybe.
This Old Tony the flex-loc head makes a harsh high pitch noise when the argon runs through it. almost sounds like you have the flow rate set at 50sch! I figured it has to do with the passage ways in the torch head.
I've got some junk and an idea. One of those counter top stand-alone ice maker appliances that's broken in such a way that all the parts still work (control electronics dickered). And i've been planning to turn it into a water cooler for my TIG rig. Basically, instead of the cooling element sitting in a predetermined small ammount of water which it turns into solid water, i'll have it in a reservoir in circulation. Ice makers seem a little quieter than tig coolers that work by a massive fan blowing on a massive radiator.
I did not get the reference nor irony of the warning at 13:00 "Danger! Do not TIG weld ON the sun! (MIG only)" Does it have something to do with jewlery and high amperage? TOT, Love your videoes!
7:00 Years later: Some nutdrivers DO have a hollow shaft! That IS the tool you seek. I keep one in the box with that kind of torch. It also could be mentioned that some kinds of TIG hardware is available very cheaply online from companies like Riverweld. Also many eBay bargains in this sector. I haven't had any problems with Chinese TIG stuff, and some of it is surprisingly cheap. It's not Conley and Klepfen or anything.
I'm using the Miller tig cooler which does make some noise, but it doesn't bother me, I have the water cooled CK flex head and often use it without running the cooler for short periods of time with no ill effects. When running the cooler it stays nice to handle, Go for it, you will like it!
I bought the whole htp package from usa weld and I absolutely love it. I dont find the water cooler to be noisy at all and it has an alarm to notify you if the flow gets restricted through the torch. Not very expensive for the cooler as well. Thought I'd mention it.
Tony, the reason city water is terrible for touches is galvanic corrosion (link below), basically it is corrosion due to dissimilar metals. Somplace in your hose it is liley you have brass fittings this is a dissimilar metal, steel (older house) or polypropylene newer houses are neutral in the corrosion scale, also the silver in the solder used in the joints helps to counteract and prevent this corrosion. In copper pipes this is really not a problem due to the thickness, surface area and solder it takes something like 100+ years for it to really be a problem if at all. But when your talking about heat transfer fins similar to what we use in CPU water blocks (Image Link below) even a minimal amount of corrosion can result in complete blockage of the water passages. Glad i could share some of my knowledge since you have given me so much ;-) Galvanic Corrosion Information (Wikipedia) - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanic_corrosion Image of a CPU Water-cooling Block - www.frostytech.com/articleimages/201204/CorsairH100_cu1.jpg
Nice one, i enjoyed the car content, couple of things, that doesn't sound like 2,1 or a 2,5 liter engine, and did you use loctite on the u joint bolts?
Just as a cooler thought... How about getting a scrapyard radiator out of a small automobile or a motorised bicycle? Pump the water through that, with a fan running at it. Or, build your own lil' heatsinky radiator out of aluminium... or copper tube even. Perhaps throw in some Peltiers. Cooling water enough to make a substantial difference to a welding torch (v.s. just tap water I mean) needn't be a noisy exercise. It should, however, be an exercise that requires a lot of work on the lathe and some teeny tiny little tig welds. Like... Get some round aluminium stock of a goodly size... Bore some small holes through it... Turn some heat exchange channels/fins around the outside... Loop the tubes all back together to have the water go through just one path back and forwardwise, which doesn't have any tight tight corners or changes in diameter (these will make Bernoulli sad). Then some sort of pump. Maybe like... A water pump. And you're ready to rock. OOOOH! Also you could have TWO different channels with two different fluids in it, and have it do countercurrent exchange of heat like what happens in fish gills for their gas exchange... With the second fluid line going to a second radiator.... And more pumps and stuff.
Tony, I have the htp 221 and bought their water cooler as well. I will tell you that it's not quite at all. I think it's the pump motor that makes all the noise. For sure you could come up with a better idea. Most likely it's because the cooler itself isn't much better than the welder itself. I think if you ran a large, say ac condenser from a car with a small pump you could affectively achieve the small amount of cooling.
Oh no, sorry I love the 221. Just the cooler they sell, Is very loud. It does turn on when I turn the welder on, which is very nice. It does have a no flow alarm which does save your bacon from time to time.
yea that's for me an water cooled 9 when I finally get one I'll rig up somethin with a beer cooler or I got an old frig coil. I have cooked my air 9 once or twice, Another Great vid from Shoptalka Buddha
Dialysis machines have excellent and relatively quiet magnetically coupled water pumps that will push >800ml/minute. That in and of itself will cut noise by a huge margin over a key coupled pump. You can get parts online, but talk to your nearest hospital, out of spec parts are tossed on the regular, and you don’t need them to be in spec to push some serious water. You have to make sure to talk to the right guy (biomed tech), and handle that thing with gloves until you give it a proper bleaching.
I got a TIG welder for Christmas because I wanted to be cool like Tony. Now I have to get a water-cooled torch too?!
how'd you get in here? I thought I had more than enough hydraulic gradient. ;)
Don't forget, coolest thing now is liquid nitrogen cooled. So you inches behind.
Bruh... Tony is absolutely going to result in my wife discovering all these tools I've been slowly hoarding and consuming more and more of the garage... Tony, any tips on fabricating an interdimentional gateway to hide tools in Karim from another Universes garage?
Hey! I'm not stupid... show me the ice cream THEN I'll get in the van.
hahah
These vigeos are more like mechanical therapy. Life is good when you have Tony:) Thank you Tony!
I'm a big fan of your humour, your videos very entertaining, better than some comedians I've heard.
Tony, I think this was one of your best written scripts so far. You have honed your craft like a guy that scrapes in his own straight edges or builds a go-kart to save having to carry a chainsaw to the curb. Bravo.
He uses script?
he can write?
He has sight?
All scripts submitted to This Old Tony are carefully reviewed and only the best make it to the big screen. :)
This Old Tony 👍👍
You really went full Canadian with the jokes. TOT is the happiest place on RUclips.
TOT, you cant imagine the joy I feel just before I open one of your videos. Keep them coming young man. Regards. Joe.
Thanks Joe!
Just had to comment on the entertainment content of your work. You my friend are a talent. Keep them coming. Its great to learn from you
Tony I am really addicted on watching your videos. I am an amateur TIG welder and i enjoy watching your simple way of approach with tig welding explanation. i hope in in near future to make a video with a DIY tungsten grinder. I am sure that a lot of viewers will enjoy it .
Just another outstanding video and the humor just makes it that much better. Look forward to the next one!
Tony. We have to talk about your tigtorch-addiction. I know you can stop whenever you want, but this got out of hand.
I just need ONE MORE i swear. just one.
All three styles of Microtorch!
And a regular Pencil-Torch!
@@ThisOldTony you should try the bincel flex lock tigtorch, im a welder and that the one i usualy go for
Your CK-80 looks like the perfect tool to re-attach my detached retina of left eye.
+1 for turning your MIG into a cold wire feeder. I did it with my Millermatic 135 ( I made both a torch mount wire feeder and a freehand feeder with the existing microswitch). The main downfall is always wanting/needing to fine-tune the wire speed, and the torch mount feeder cannot get into tight places. It works great for simple repetitive production work though.
Better every time Tony...busted me up multiple times and learned a lot. Thanks! Your brilliance is showing through. Standup, Machinist, Engineer, fabricator, time traveling wizard and extraordinary gentleman in a league of your own. ~Diseradati'PJ
Like first, then watch the video. Never goes wrong on this channel :)
Absolutely.
Jody's engagement ring😂🤣😂🤣 I kept seeing it in the background, thought you might mention it...... spit water across the room when you said that. Great video!!!
I never leave home without out it! Though I don't know why people keep asking me what I did to my fingers.
This Old Tony me neither! Tigfinger 4 life!!
LMFAO! I was watching with ear buds in place and my wife thought I had finally gone over the edge! I watched it twice just because I laughed so much the first time I missed a lot. Tony, you ARE the most informative AND entertaining machining creator on RUclips! Thanks for making yet another really great video...
Thanks Fred!
this isn t only great information. this is great entertainment on top. thx a lot.
I also love my water cooled #9...it's pretty much all I use. Looking forward to your video about building your new TIG cart! Thanks for the excellent content, Tony.
Love the "Gravity Wells" comment. You shook do a video on that. One of the engineers I used to work with called it the "universal law of flat surfaces" and had a formula to predict the rate of accumulation.
I paused the video, waited for my wife to finish showering, then made her come listen to your canadian joke. Expected her to react, but apparently I'm weird for thinking it was absolute gold
Ye dont worry, I check it for you, after reading your comment made mine listen to it to, same reaction, so probably just "women" in general XD
Sounds like the problem you both ran in to was forgetting to allow your better 3/4 to get dressed before dragging them into the garage to watch this video on your dusty shop 'puter.
I can't tell you how many times I've tried to share humor with my wife, only for her to look at me like I'm an idiot. And I am. But I know funny.
I don't try any longer.
Theball Player: I tend to get excited wanting to share something and remember all the times walking away feeling like an idiot. Kinda glad to see im not the only one.
Just ask yourself first “is making her laugh in your job description “?
Spot - on explanation of the empty space phenomenon. I've noticed signs of it in every shop I've been in.
Your videos are both funny, and informative. Thanks for reporting/sharing on this HOT topic! :-)
This was hands down the most useful video on the subject I've seen to date. Thanks and subscribed! (Came from AvE's reccomendation)
I just ordered a ck150 flexloc torch with the super flex hose. Definitely looking forward to getting back into tig after 5 years or so…needless to say I’m rewatching all your tig specific videos
Tony, I recently purchased a CK watercooled flex-loc for a Dynasty 280 DX, after using a air cooled flex loc for the last 4 years. It was definitely worth the money! Yes, the head does stay cooler than you would think. (I was worried no water to the head part), through a little bit warmer than a regular watercooled torch. However they seem to work very well. I would purchase it again in a heartbeat. Thanks for the good videos and information!
Totally agree, Ive used the 230 amp rated 9 series flex-loc for 3 years now on a 250 amp machine with no worries, I have yet to go through any of the consumable thumbscrews either! I dont floor it to all 250 amps very often but it has definitely made some nice puddles in thick aluminum. I think an extra 20 amps a few times a year on a brand like CK is no problemo.
Good to know, thank you!
They should put a copy of all your videos on the next gold record that goes into space, so that alien civilizations might know that we're not all animals.
I just bought my first welder this summer: a Lincoln 140 MIG. But watching your vids makes me want to try TIG! I've heard it's tough to learn but you make it look too easy! ( your go-kart build). Anyway, I get inspired watching your work, and envious of your tools! Cheers.
The gravitational well! Of course! This explains everything that has been happening to my garage and work areas.
"I like to sweat the small stuff" priceless, truly priceless!
I use CK’s “I” ball torch for my flexible water cooled torch, ❤️I also use the track amp controller ~ good and bad mostly good! Dynasty 200DX machine and coolmate 4 cooler, yes it’s louder than yours but it’s rated to 600 amps of torch or mig gun! My skills suck after brain damage, but I am hopeful to Tig again! Eh it’s only been six years, love your channel, keep up the great video coming! Paul
Dude lol that comment about free space in the shop, pure gold! I totally know the feeling, my girlfriend and I cleaned the ever-loving crap out of our landlord/roommate's garage, and within days the garage was magically almost as full of crap as it was before we cleaned it. And the crap outside is still there! Where is all this crap coming from?!
HaLo2FrEeEk
Yeah, but with all that CRAP that just magically appears.......... dam lost sock never does !
My Garage is full of Gravity Wells... Airbrush T-Shirts....LoL.. Love your Vids!!!!!!! Funny and Educational.
some guy told me I was supposed to subscribe to you. I took him on a dinner date for the suggestion.
great channel man
The reason the Canadian version of the torch is smaller is a strange side-effect of the Mercator projection.
Lol. You need a TV show. This is my new favorite channel.
TOT please start a patreon page. I feel as though I've been ripping you off. The amount of knowledge and hours of entertainment deserve compensation. I respect you not trying to make a living from you videos but even if I'm the only one who contributes, please take my money
Thanks James -- I appreciate the sentiment!
Very good video as always. I recently upgraded my everlast 200 to a 20 series (watercooled version of 9) swivel lock torch from ck, it's very comfortable to use and the water cooling keeps the torch body and swivel almost completely cool. The torch head does get quite hot, but the mounting screw never does. I feel like it's rated 230amps might be pushing it but suits my 200 amp machine perfectly. I can defiantly recommend trying it for the htp.
After I built my water cooler, my first new torch was a FL230. I love it to bits! It runs cool as anything even at 200A. I went with the Shurflo pump in the cooler, I must say I'm disappointed with how quiet it isn't. Also at 1.4gpm it takes 90psi to push water through the flex loc torch handle. Can't wait to see your water cooler when it comes together!
Hey mate, your videos are really good to watch. Keep it up.
For a quiet cooler one option is to skip the fan / radiator and just use a larger container. I've had a few over the years, some commercial, some homemade. I know your space is also at a premium, but you can build some of it into your cart. My fav, was one I built that was the same size as an argon bottle. Just an aluminum box with a small submersible pump. It fit on the cart in the second bottle holder.
LOL! Thanks Tony for converting to Canadian for us!
Thanks for getting me hooked on your videos. Now, where's my weekly fix?
Kidding. Hope you're OK and looking forward to your next vid.
Sir, historically my default paradigm for joining metal has been flux rod arc welding. I feel that I can privately confide in you that I have been having TIG curious thoughts of late. Your implied acceptance and guidance have empowered me to experiment without recrimination. Thank you. Now if I can just learn how to friggin' do it!
"not sure how often to dip your tungsten into ..." :) :) :)
Definitely the fluoride. XD
And I love your metric conversions.
Oh please we really need an Advanced Topics for Homegamers video!
especially if it involves gravity wells :)
Please also cover the curse of horizontal space, and the 'project critical point dinners ready' paradox!
Moraren yes please :)
You are so thorough. Thank You Tony.
3 years old and I just now see this one. I’ll admit I’m not subscribed but I monitor regularly.
You do realise you've jinxed yourself into a Wire Feeder, a Welding Cart AND a Water Cooler build video?
You know, my wife picked up on that too. ;)
Water cooler: If it doesn't have to go below room temperature (which I think would probably be bad, condensation and all that), then computer water cooling parts (like the radiators used) might be an option - they are designed to be very quiet and even a relatively small radiator (like a triple 120 mm radiator) will sink 500+ Watts continuously. A car cooler could also be an option but that's perhaps a bit oversized and unwieldy.
I just looked at the "HTP Arctic Chill 5460" and that one is rated for 1.6 kW cooling capacity and almost 4 kW maximum cooling capacity. That's quite something. 1.6 kW shouldn't be a problem with a big PC radiator, but 4 kW is probably pushing it.
I was going to do my homework but then I saw that tony posted another masterpiece...
I have the water cooled version of the flex loc and love it. However it's also the only torch I've ever used as I was taught by a professional welder who recommended it. I find I can always manipulate it to get the optimal angle no matter what I'm doing.
Go get one Tony!!
Your videos are the only ones that make me constantly go to leave a like, only to be disappointed kuz I already left one.
Tony I did this (bought just a torch body) to be able to swap back and forth from a 24 and 20 on my water cooled setup. I needed to do some cylinder head work at 200A and the smallest torch was the only way. Sell your MIG and buy a water cooler! I also just made a brass wedge collet so I could stop warping the copper standard units.
I've always meant to try those wedge collets.
The only torch CK doesn't make them for is the gas lens setup for the water cooled 24.
On my dads setup, he made a 5gal or so aluminum tank with a removable lid and gasket, inside is a small 110v submersible sump pump. For fluid he uses regular antifreeze so he doesn't have to worry about it freezing when the shop heat isn't on...the pump is quiet and the aluminum tank acts as the heat sink...this is on a syncrowave 250...never had a hot hand using it.
Omg u r dang right about the black hole on the floor space. My kids toy seems to take it all up.
Always a good laugh !
By the sounds of it I think you have more problems on that vehicle than just the universal, maybe a tune up if it doesn't start any better than that ! 😎
I scream, you scream, we all scream for ICECREAM !! 😆
Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍
The special tool is a "NUT DRIVER"! You can buy a set to get just one, or try the flea market. You know them, generally like a screwdriver with a tiny socket on the working end, and the shank is hollow, so that extended electrode goes right in there. It's a treat!
Love the banter. Subscribed.
"But if you're new to TIG welding, and you're still quite not sure just how often you should be sticking your tungsten into the molten weld puddle" lmao!
Oh man. You’re hilarious in this one, man!
Tony, I know how you feel, in regards to your parting comment about simultaneously fixing your Jeep. On top of my full time job I've also been working on my parents house, basically gutted it and redoing everything, and in the middle of all of that the engine block in my Jeep blew up, literally, a good chunk of the block itself is on an interstate somewhere after the connecting rod for cylinder 6 snapped in half and proceeded to act as a hammer to everything around it! Just finished the engine swap while doing everything else I mentioned
Hey Tony!
Yet another great video. Since you seem to be int the frame of mind to educate us about all the different aspects of certain tools in your shop, I've got an idea for an episode: Milling machine bits. For instance when would you use a 2 flute mill instead of a 4 flute mill? What are the drawbacks of each one. Finishing mils vs. roughing mills. What types of tools work best with which materials? When would you use a fly cutter over a face mill? I think there are lots of good nuggets to uncover on this subject. Thanks again for the great content!
abom has a video on mill types
SuperAWaC Yes, but is there time travel? :-)
i think abom has a sufficient shop to do time travel, but he follows the temporal prime directive unlike some rogues
Two flute vs. four flute is an age old question. Why not just average them and use a three flute?
4+2=6. 6/2 = 3.
3.141 whatever, blah, blah rounds to 3 and NO ONE would ever chuck up a pie in a mill, Stephen. *No one.*
Ha the empty floor gravity well situation… I know it well… Keep on rockin brother
I built a cheap watercooler using a 230v ac to 12v dc power supply, a 2 fan pc radiator with 2 120mm fans and a 12v RV pump. Under 200 dollars all brand new.
Only problem with the RV pump was too much flow causing the pump to stop. Fixed that with a bypass loop. Now running 5 litres per minute flow but can go up or down by opening or closing the bypass.
By going with a 12v setup the entire unit is low voltage and with using a ac to dc adapter I can use the output on my European Everlast's 325 Ext to power the whole shebang.
Fully enjoy your comments, thanks! :-)
I would add concerning the Flex-Loc; that the angle part on the end of the body where the locking screw is will MELT if it gets too hot, as does the locking screw. Trust me I know. Mine did due to heat reflected from the part being welded. Granted it was a heavy weld that too quite a while.
Very good video. , the Torches are Gas cooled, The amperage is rated for example 40% or 50% for a welding time of 10 min so it means by 40 % you can weld 4 min and 6 min cool down and so on. Even with a torch rated for 240 amps the maximum continuous welding is about 90 to 100 amps, depending on the size of the Torch, another thing, you can expand the welding time is, to use a Tungsten 3,2 mm, or even a 4mm size, but continuous welding over 100 amps require a Water cooled machine , if you don't want to melt your torches or burn your finger thru the cloves. If you weld a lot of Alu or Copper it is vital to have liquid cooled machine. And it is also vital buy the Hose packages as long as you can . I also prefer a Torch with on off switches and current control ,rather than a foot switch you always searching for it , also you can go around your workpiece without dragging the damn foot switch and the machine around.Who is welding on the same place? Only a Robot? Or dragging the workpiece to the place where you sit, so you can weld with a foot switch , good luck with that and for you back bones.
Nice Tig Torch Talk.... and I want my loonie back! ;-)
1:23 to 1:48 had me in tears!!!
Love the flex lock also. Favorite one so far
I would totally watch an entire series on advanced topics for homegamers.
That opening shot was interesting. Thought for a second you were holding a hash pipe. :)
Brother you are a trip 😝😂 I can't get enough of your vids they are very helpful. I am about to jump into welding, what machine would you recommend that won't break the bank for a bigger? The bro
Jason B Thermal Arc is what I have at home. 95 amp with a TIG setup does everything I need for less than 400 bucks (that was the price 8 years ago). Used would be way cheaper...
I just bought a cheap Hawk Tig-200 DC machine on ebay, hoping to be able to give people some advice on that when it arrives. Really seems like IGBT tech is making DC tig machines cheap as chips these days without being scrap "chinesium" rubbish but haven't taken delivery yet so can't actually confirm that :P
Jason B love my esab mini arc 161 lts even for tig. Down fall is no foot control and valve torch but smooth arc and plenty of power and a great stick welder as well and runs on 110/220v
Everlast!
Jason B
I would suggest getting something you can get parts or service for. Some of the cheap Chinese made stuff is pretty much throw away when it breaks. Nobody seems to want to fix or provide parts for some of the really cheap stuff. Just my 2 cents.
I have both an air cooled and water cooler flex-loc. Love them, but stopped using them do to the noise they make giving me a headache. Now I just use a flex head water cooled. I think the 9 series is air cooled and the 20 is water cooled, but still the same size torch and consumables. Loved the Canadian torch joke!
You can definitely hear water going through a regular wp20 -- it makes more noise than that? (WP20 doesn't bother me. In fact I hardly notice it). I had some bad experiences with flex head torches in the past. I fiddle too much, maybe.
This Old Tony the flex-loc head makes a harsh high pitch noise when the argon runs through it. almost sounds like you have the flow rate set at 50sch! I figured it has to do with the passage ways in the torch head.
So you are saying universe doesn't decide how many times that tip is dipped into the molten metal it's me?
Rethinking life choices, please wait...
So the tip is not supposed to dip?
@@phillhuddleston9445 Tip-dippers unite!!!
I've got some junk and an idea. One of those counter top stand-alone ice maker appliances that's broken in such a way that all the parts still work (control electronics dickered). And i've been planning to turn it into a water cooler for my TIG rig. Basically, instead of the cooling element sitting in a predetermined small ammount of water which it turns into solid water, i'll have it in a reservoir in circulation. Ice makers seem a little quieter than tig coolers that work by a massive fan blowing on a massive radiator.
I did not get the reference nor irony of the warning at 13:00 "Danger! Do not TIG weld ON the sun! (MIG only)" Does it have something to do with jewlery and high amperage?
TOT, Love your videoes!
7:00 Years later: Some nutdrivers DO have a hollow shaft! That IS the tool you seek. I keep one in the box with that kind of torch. It also could be mentioned that some kinds of TIG hardware is available very cheaply online from companies like Riverweld. Also many eBay bargains in this sector. I haven't had any problems with Chinese TIG stuff, and some of it is surprisingly cheap. It's not Conley and Klepfen or anything.
This oughtta make my my day less horrible 👌
As always, seriously entertaining. Thanks.
I'm using the Miller tig cooler which does make some noise, but it doesn't bother me, I have the water cooled CK flex head and often use it without running the cooler for short periods of time with no ill effects. When running the cooler it stays nice to handle, Go for it, you will like it!
Thanks Steve, good to know!
At least you purchased a new differential pinion yoke with new straps in addition to the new u-joint. Cherokee? Love all the vidjayos.
The gravity well is so true! Hahahaha
I bought the whole htp package from usa weld and I absolutely love it. I dont find the water cooler to be noisy at all and it has an alarm to notify you if the flow gets restricted through the torch. Not very expensive for the cooler as well. Thought I'd mention it.
Good to know, thanks Moto!
Tony, the reason city water is terrible for touches is galvanic corrosion (link below), basically it is corrosion due to dissimilar metals. Somplace in your hose it is liley you have brass fittings this is a dissimilar metal, steel (older house) or polypropylene newer houses are neutral in the corrosion scale, also the silver in the solder used in the joints helps to counteract and prevent this corrosion. In copper pipes this is really not a problem due to the thickness, surface area and solder it takes something like 100+ years for it to really be a problem if at all. But when your talking about heat transfer fins similar to what we use in CPU water blocks (Image Link below) even a minimal amount of corrosion can result in complete blockage of the water passages.
Glad i could share some of my knowledge since you have given me so much ;-)
Galvanic Corrosion Information (Wikipedia) - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanic_corrosion
Image of a CPU Water-cooling Block - www.frostytech.com/articleimages/201204/CorsairH100_cu1.jpg
Nice one, i enjoyed the car content, couple of things, that doesn't sound like 2,1 or a 2,5 liter engine, and did you use loctite on the u joint bolts?
Good info, the big handles are most common here in Europe, but I might break the habbit and get a peddal for doing burn outs :D
This was great. Funny and smart.
Damn, I was so not paying attention to the jeep axle rebuild!
"Jody's engagement ring" XD
The water-cooled, stubby flexhead for the ultimate in getting into tight spaces that dont need welding.
Making a Cold wire feed would be really hot :D and a great project i allways wanted to do... Would love to See you make one
Soooo much more interesting than that sleep thing I should be doing...
Just as a cooler thought... How about getting a scrapyard radiator out of a small automobile or a motorised bicycle? Pump the water through that, with a fan running at it. Or, build your own lil' heatsinky radiator out of aluminium... or copper tube even. Perhaps throw in some Peltiers. Cooling water enough to make a substantial difference to a welding torch (v.s. just tap water I mean) needn't be a noisy exercise. It should, however, be an exercise that requires a lot of work on the lathe and some teeny tiny little tig welds. Like... Get some round aluminium stock of a goodly size... Bore some small holes through it... Turn some heat exchange channels/fins around the outside... Loop the tubes all back together to have the water go through just one path back and forwardwise, which doesn't have any tight tight corners or changes in diameter (these will make Bernoulli sad).
Then some sort of pump. Maybe like... A water pump. And you're ready to rock.
OOOOH! Also you could have TWO different channels with two different fluids in it, and have it do countercurrent exchange of heat like what happens in fish gills for their gas exchange... With the second fluid line going to a second radiator.... And more pumps and stuff.
The oil pan bit hit the nail on the just about right....
Tony, I have the htp 221 and bought their water cooler as well. I will tell you that it's not quite at all. I think it's the pump motor that makes all the noise. For sure you could come up with a better idea. Most likely it's because the cooler itself isn't much better than the welder itself. I think if you ran a large, say ac condenser from a car with a small pump you could affectively achieve the small amount of cooling.
You don't like your 221? I've never heard their coolers run, good to know.
Oh no, sorry I love the 221. Just the cooler they sell, Is very loud. It does turn on when I turn the welder on, which is very nice. It does have a no flow alarm which does save your bacon from time to time.
yea that's for me an water cooled 9 when I finally get one I'll rig up somethin with a beer cooler or I got an old frig coil. I have cooked my air 9 once or twice, Another Great vid from Shoptalka Buddha
7:21
Me: "there ain't enough room in this town for the both of us, you scroungy varmint."
Like your channel bud....subbed....keep them coming...cheers
Dialysis machines have excellent and relatively quiet magnetically coupled water pumps that will push >800ml/minute. That in and of itself will cut noise by a huge margin over a key coupled pump. You can get parts online, but talk to your nearest hospital, out of spec parts are tossed on the regular, and you don’t need them to be in spec to push some serious water. You have to make sure to talk to the right guy (biomed tech), and handle that thing with gloves until you give it a proper bleaching.
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Another reason why I read comments....... dang good information ! 👍
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