TFS: All About TIG Torches
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Tools & Gear We Use and Recommend
www.amazon.com...
Who would have thought there is so much to learn about the very basics of TIG torches? In this special #TIGSimple episode, Justin the Fabricator breaks down all the ins and outs of TIG torches.
TFS would very much like to thank CK Worldwide for providing the torches used in this episode. Yes, we use them all the time daily in the shop, and in our hands on TIG classes. They're the only thing that doesn't break.
Learn to TIG Weld in Our Class!
thefabricatorse...
Subscribe to The Fabrication Series for MORE!
Check out the website: www.TheFabricat...
Like: / thefabricato. .
Follow: IG @The.Fabricator / the.fabricator
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No music - but a message for our die hard description readers and those looking for the answer...
No, we were not paid to make this episode. We just believe in the product. It's that simple.
Ck 20 water cooled flex head and that’s my favorite torch
Welding Junkie 🥇WINNER! 🥇 CONGRATULATIONS!
You were the first one to name the full breakdown of the torch! Please email me your name and address so we can ship you a brand new CK20 FX torch compliments of CK Worldwide and The Fabrication Series!
thefabricatorseries.com/email
The Fabrication Series that’s really cool, thank you very much. I’ll get it over to you. Great video.
The Fabrication Series just checking to see if you got my message that I sent through your website with my address I didn’t get any notification and just want to be sure. I’m excited!! Thanks again
Welding Junkie Sure did. You'll get tracking info soon.
The Fabrication Series oh man I’m really pumped. Now I have to Win that crazy flex head one for tubing lol
It is INSANE to me how straightforward and informative this video/ channel is... as someone coming from a stick background trying to get a tig setup at home, I appreciate the content, keep it up!
This is a video to save and watch again. One of the best newbie videos I've watched so far. Answered many questions I didn't know I needed to ask. Thanks!
Love your videos. Clear, concise, no unnecessary self promotion. I don't subscribe or like a lot of channels. You got both.
Great video for beginners like me. My kid wants a torch for our multi process machine and now I know where to start.
I want to simply THANK YOU. Im saving for an Alphatig and your videos are the second best thing to being in a class. Keep it up and ill be fabbing some awesome stuff through your helpful videos
Thanks man, this was a really helpful video... concise and to the point with just enough detail
11:50 "The most important thing is the F if you have a rigid torch and it doesn't have an F on the end of it, don't try to F it because it's gonna go from F to B which means broke and you're the one who's effed on it so if it doesn't say F don't try to F it.
LOL, thats funny.
Incredibly helpful. Thank you.
Who the heck could possible thumb's down this very detailed presentation, and why?
Thank you so much. Awesome video. Learnt a lot from you. Cheers, from Melbourne Australia ❤
Thank you for this information. Your work helps me to appreciate and enjoy welding
Great video, been looking for this info everywhere!
what a awesome video series! Many thanks for this. Watching through teach me a lot!
I made an adapter for my FL230 to use a 525PCSF cause I have to weld a lot of Aluminum with some of that melting the standard hose.
Thank you. You just wiped all the mystery out.
ck17 flex I just got , had me confused at first as didn't realise at first the water runs through the power cable hose , makes sense though
This was awesome Justin thanks
Great video. And good explanation. Look forward to your content.
finally, as simple as it gets, thanks bro
Love your videos man.
As a beginner, why would you want to use anything other than a standard torch that comes with the welder?
At what point would you NEED to upgrade?
Hi Jason, what about torches with control switches - other than Argon flow? My boss said he used one when he tig’d overhead. Appreciate you sharing your knowledge.
Very good explanation👍
What a time to live. All this free info from an absolutely charismatic professional. Amazing videos brother. Wish there were more people interested in welding so you got the recognition you deserve.
Please give a video on how to get rid of Aluminum Etching lines. Thank you.
Thank you for this video. I start intro to Tig tomorrow. Any chance you'd be able to do a video explaining cups? I have a CK 17 and I don't understand the numbers like 54N18 and down. The second set of number goes down. But the number on the cup stay at I think #9. And then their is the "## I.D." associated with the "##N##" if you could explain any of this and how it effects your electrode size or choice of gas lens size or collet body and maybe manipulation applications if their are any.
Any input on Vulcan welders? More specifically the ProTIG 165? Thanks in advance!
Does filler rod size need to match tungsten size, example, 1.6mm tungsten and 1,6mm filler rod?
Hi, my welder has the gas valve solenoid inside the machine but I don't see a torch that con match it on your very good description, what symbol must I look for
If I'm using a torch with an unknown size and has 3/32" collet at the moment, can I change the collet body so that it can now take a 1/16" collet and electrode?
Are the connections on the torches not just bsp? and could you not just buy 1 dollar adapters to fit them?
what is the longest chord/torch length you can use TIG welding
how do you know if the torch will fit on the machine? Are the terminals universal ?
#dontfthetorch awsome videos man keep up the hard work. your inspiting and helping people world wide. one great reason to represent #ckworldwide
I sold CK for 23 years. Good torches. But. They started importing most of their stuff from China about 10 years ago. I now sell the only American made torches WeldTec
Where are you guys located in Vegas? I would love to sign up for the classes.
Honestly I don't know why torches can be so complicated. I got a gas and a water cooled torch with my everlast welder. I now know what kind of accessories I need for each.
What's the best cup to use 1/8 aluminum round pipe😮
#DontFtheTorch
Awesome series and learning lots of new stuff.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge
Hi, I am new to tig welding and of course I have thousands of questions... my first one...
Can I use a # 17 torch(Or any other air cooled torch) on my Lincoln precision tig 275 without using the water cooler?
#2.- If I use the # 17 torch(The only one I have at the moment) is it just plug and play? I mean just connect the gas hose into the proper port? Or what makes the torch actually work? Is it just pressing the pedal what creates the arc?
Sorry, I know these are pretty silly questions but like I stated before this is gonna be my first try on the tig world, even though I've been welding for some years now, all of it its been stick and mig; any help???????
Thanks a lot in advance.
Hey, I do have question about TIG torches. I just started TIG welding and we use torches with on/off button on them, that way we light up the arc. But all of your torches are without this button. How do you light up the arc then and why did you not mention them in this vid? Thank you.
Foot pedal
Dumbass
@p0lednik,
The torch is what EVERYONE outside of America uses, press the button and it should initate the arc and the gas flow.
Your welding machine should be set up for 3 seconds of post-flow argon, after you release the switch.
@@donovanchaas9100 No, we don't all use that system
@@saulsrappin Like you can even weld?
Great tutorial! What is the difference between #17 and #18 torch?
17 is air cooled.
18 is water cooled.
@@TheFabricatorSeries many thanks indeed!
Thanks!
the diagram showing water cooled torch us wrong ,the water flows in the large coupling ,the hose with the power cable inside ,
Hello! Is it possible to swap on a same 17 a standard cap to a stubby one?
I have a ck 17 torch I got from school and I'm running a Lincoln pro 140 mp. The torch is heavy rubber, can I change it? I need to get a new one anyways because I have to connect to my stinger to run tig
I have a 26 that came with my welder but i would like the ck flex cable compared to the 4m cable i have and also a 9 head.
So if i purchase a ck 200amp cable to use with my 26 head could i use an adapter to interchange to the 9?
Is it a good idea to use à torch with valve to control the too long automatic post flow of certain welding machines like the Lincoln square wave 200?
#DontFtheTorch i need these torches!! I can’t thank you enough for all you do in making these videos. You’re my Vegas luck lol I can now run a decent puddle
Does 17 and 9 fit the same handle?
Does the PTA - 17 use the same consumables as the PTA - 9?
NOW THAT'S A FLEX HEAD!!!
when and why do you use a gas lens
I just bought a everlastmts 211 si and the torch that came with it goes into the same input as the pedal. How do i use the pedal with the torch it came with?, or do i have to buy another torch for it?.
juan garcia Use the pedal -OR- the torch. The pedal is for varying your amperage. The torch switch is for 2T and 4T operation (I have a video on 2T/4T).
just some feedback, i switch off a little when you’re presenting as you speak too fast. When you narrate over, you’re noticeably more relaxed and slow down a little which makes for a more pleasurable pace to the video. Great content, really enjoying your videos.
Phils Obsession That's actually done on purpose. It keeps both sides of the crowd watching and informed which is why I often say the same thing multiple times. You're not missing much info if you only listen to voice over. I appreciate your feedback though!
How about the awkward torches with a built in switch and valve?... Lol
#DONTFTHETORCH after 8 years of wanting I finally pulled the trigger on a Miller Dynasty 210 DX! Loving it!
I just rewatched this video after spending about two months behind the torch and man this made so much more sense than when I watched it before ever tig welding before 😂
One of the best....maybe THE best explanation of the tig torch family.....well done.....and yes I took notes!
Same
Great information !!
Can you do a review about Eastwood AC/DC 200 Digital machine?
MIND=BLOWN! It finally all made sense! Thank you for the video! Keep up the good work
To keep it short. Differences are:
Size
Water vs air cooled
Flex vs non flex
Great video tho man! I remember when I first got into welding, I watched your videos on that evo and 240 helped me a ton!
Your new stuff would have been great to have as a fresh welder!
This has got to have been one of the best videos on this subject. I am sure i will watch this one several times, over and over to let info sink in. Great job on viewing and teaching 10 out 10. You blew it out of the park
merton silliker I write most of the episodes here and I always strive for this response. If it merits multiple views to soak in the info, it was done right. I appreciate it!
yes, the argon does cool the torch. if it does not, then it will be arrested. :) due to gas laws. if a gas is allowed to expand, it becomes colder. the argon is under 2 or 3 _thousand_ psi in the cylinder. it exits the torch at 14.7 psi(ambient) . to decrease in pressure it must have expanded. it is therefore colder now than when it was in the cylinder. the cylinder is room temperature so the gas now must be colder than room temperature.
Yes! but that's not the reason (main) it is used! Engineers figured that out (dual purpose) that there was not need for using different design to fit a cooling system as far as certain amperage wouldn't be reached thus rising in temperature... Limiting capabilities, but should be OK for certain applications! What I'm trying to say is those torches should be called "shielding gas cooled" ;) if you guess what I'm coming from! Lol!
You're halfway there. The expansion of the gas cools the gas, not the torch. The gas cools the torch simply because it is colder than the torch, and they are in contact with each other.
@freezeme360 Expansion isn't necessary for cooling to occur. It's not the same.
@freezeme360 What I said wasn't convoluted at all. It was very direct.
It was both shorter and more accurate than what I was replying to.
Excellent explanation!
Thank you.
warm greetings
I see in this episode you covered the torches that are used less and less in the USA, we in Europe use more torches with start stop with 2 and 4 stages, the switch on the torch, most of them also have a wheel for setting the aperage on the torches, if you have time, can you comment on them , because I personally find them much easier to use than working with a pedal
My TIG machine is capable of 200 amps. I want another torch to use a 1/16th tungsten for thin stuff. Must my torch be rated for 200 amps, or can I use a 150 amp torch, but never set it above the 150. I don't feel comfortable with the ladder. Also, regarding air cooled it seems like the attachment part to the hose is universal. I have a 26 torch on there now that came with the welder. If I want a #9 with that just screw on? Could I just put a collet and body for a 1/16th tungsten into my 26 body and weld with that?
After 40 years of welding, I'm finally stepping up to the one I haven't done...
Just ordered a CK17 flex with the valve. Being cheap, by cheap I mean scratch starting...
Reason, I can run it on my service trucks Ranger8 and I can hook it up to the old buzz box (gives me a reason to keep the old paid for machines 😎
I really don't know what brand is best, I do know what brands I won't consider.......
CK is one that seems to be used in a lot of videos and has a good reputation!!
I also considered Lincoln, but price and speed of receiving had an influence... LoL...
You said learn on a rigid, but I only plan on buying ONE..... If my daughters choose to learn TIG, then maybe we will spend the money on HF Water-cooled....
But for now, scratch😎
Thank you for the very informative video!!!!
Big fan of you gentleman, I'm trying to learn TIG welding can you giveaway one of your old machines pls
Compressed Argon is used in AIM-9 missiles to cool the seeker head... Argon cools. End of story
Nice editing man! I mean, wow that must have taken forever! As always, great content. Keep’em rolling.
#DONTFTHETORCH
Wish I had some badass story to give on TIG but I don’t. My first torch is coming on Monday and I can’t wait to get started! I will say that since I picked up my first welder about a month ago I’ve been nonstop between videos and hood time. Between you, Bob, Jody and MIT open courseware, I have the knowledge to really dig in to welding and understand the science behind it. Thank you for taking the time to make these awesome videos and helping everyone progress their skills.
Great videos! I learn so much by watching your videos! Got my first Tig a month ago!
wow man, best informative introductory video for tig torches!
thumbs up x100000000
#dontfthetourch hey man thanks so much for helping me understand more about tig welding I try to watch all your episodes. Wish I was still living in Vegas maybe could have met u man! Keep it coming my bradda!
Sweeeet! Great info again!!! Super kool edits!! It allows me to screen shot so I have info handy!! Thx
I used to work for Acklands Grainger as welding tech support, the argon only is air cooled torch, for higher amperages and higher duty cycles you need the water cooled torch, I used to weld with air cooled models up to about 130 amps no probs 100 percent duty cycle, no real issues with the right size torch like wp-17 or so, but when you have to be at around 150 or more 100 percent duty, get the water cooler. We used to do a lot of tungsten carbide overlay of oilfield screens for Suncor and such, and lots of fine tuning the robotic overlay of same hardfacing material.
Best video for newcomers. Great job covering everything.
Since it seems you have a good working relationship with Ck. I think an awesome video idea would be a explanation and comparison video of using A stubby gas lens setup vs a gas saver setup and also the difference in thier short kit vs thier stubby kit. Like benefits and personal preference. 9 or 17 or both would be awesome! Just a thought. But if you have something explaining anything about the stubby or gas saving kits please shoot a link thanks!!!
These are all pleb torches, once you start using a pencil torch you will wonder what the hell you were doing all these years with these right angle torches.
it might be a dumb question, but these torches are rated at 100%, eg.: ck17 is 150amp 100% but can i use it with more amps?
Perfect!! Just the video I needed to clear up some thoughts I had on different style torches. I'm new to the world of TIG welding and have fallen heavily on your videos to help me along in becoming a better welder. Thank you for your time that you've put in making them.
Justin, You are F---in funny. Your patter is great and your content is very informative. Thanks.
Awesome work man. Thankyou so much. I will watch it over a few times to let it all sink in.
Very informative video!!
I had a question as to whats the difference between CK's standard TIG series and the equivalent model Master series torches? In CK's catalog it doesn't really explain how they differ from each other. I guess what I'm wondering, is it worth the price difference between a ck9 fx vs a ck 130 fx; or say a ck 17 fx vs a ck 150 fx? The specs between the two seem identical, except that the master series is rated for 5 amps more. What makes it a Master? Thanks for all the vids!
Can u make these style tourches suit a furonuis. Tig welder?
Yes, but only select models that do not require hand controls to operate. weldmetalsonline.com/collections/consumables?page=1
Hi Justin I have a question that I cannot find any answers to online I have a everlast 200dv and want to purchase a ck 17 but I am faced with the question 1 piece or 2 piece cable?? And what’s the difference. Thanks in advance
Did you get your answer?
@@robertsivanovs6169no I didn’t
Can i just buy once by getting the flex head, but keep it straight in the beginning for practice?
Sure can! But torch heads aren't expensive at all
Wonderful explanation. Okay, here is the $64,000 question, Who came up with, or from where did they come from, the number designations?
I'd like you to know because of you I bought a prime 225 today if I don't like it it's all your fault
Hey there! I'm about to buy a special made CK FL130V Flex-Loc for my welder. Due to the pricing I'd like to ask: Do they last? And how long? What not to do with them? What to do with them so they last?
Thank You!
WOW, Just got my CK17V RG gas cooled torch and you cleared up a lot of gray area other sites pass over. Thank you so much, you are now my go to for info.
How do you set up a miller maxstar 200dx? I can't change my amperage. Also, what cup do I need to use for fuse welding stainless 18-22 GA. Material? Thank you
Do you ever TIG just plain steel. I've only used the MIG and stick on my welder because (until your video I never knew how to hook up the TIG or what the knobs did.). I had to cut out framing around my transmission tunnel to allow for a larger tranny and It's very hard to clean the floor pan in some areas. I want the welds to be better because my life depends on it. I made 1/2" by 1" box by welding 2 ea. 1/2 box steel tubing to save space. I'm building rotisserie to help angles. Thank you for the videos.
How the heck did I get to watch this video.....I just bought a spot welder and was browsing the spot welding vids......not that I'm not interested in Tig welding, I already have a plasma welder and a few months back I bought a small 250 amp hobby welder to ......."try and do scratch start Tig welding" for those small fussy jobs that you want to have the surgeons scalpel approach rather than the butchers chopping block and cleaver one.....sigh...... now I have to get a gas bottle, regulator flow meter and a tig torch etc.........thanks for the heads up on the variety of torches .........just bought a 17 model fixed head with a valve.......BTW, I have done Tig welding as I had a full welding outfit but sold it all when I changed over to the plasma welder.
Hi. Thanks for the great videoclip. My son gave me a Rossi WSM200amp tig welder for Father's Day. No pedal and have trouble holding down the trigger. Is there any way or tips in using the trigger in a different way? Thanks
Hey Justin awesome video for beginners and pros alike. The only thing really made me cringe is when you started bending the brand new torches like a 12 year old playing with his pecker. If your a hobbyist you can get away with it a for a while. But remember when you're bending them the copper coils in the head work hardens if it's not heated. If you're a pro welding 10-12 hours a day and want your torches to last you should always strike an arc and get the torch heated before severely bending them. I've learned this from years tig welding in the biopharmaceutical industry and from the torch manufacturers. Other than that awesome videos keep em coming! There just isn't anyone on RUclips putting out the useful content like you are thank you, JRZ
I sold CK for 23 years. Good torches. But. They started importing most of their stuff from China about 10 years ago. I now sell the only American made torches WeldTec
Great video! Only one thing missing. Assembly / consumables on the pencil torch. How do you tighten the collet and back cap on the tungsten so it won't fall out?
I don't think there's a back cap, because the tungsten would go into the body of the torch. You would then just tighten the collet from the tip end and put the gas cup back on.
#dontfthetorch Justin you're the best, finding your channel has been such a huge help this past week! You're the best, -Travez