STOP Fishing A NED RIG Like This (3 Ned Rig Mistakes)
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
- Ned rigs are one of the best lures to fish for bass. However, there are many mistakes that bass fisherman make when fishing them.
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One of the biggest mistakes I see anglers make is by fishing the ned rig the same way every time they go out fishing. Sure you can probably catch fish doing this but a ned rig is actually more versatile then you think.
Another ned rig mistake I see, is people using too heavy of a ned rig head. These lures were intended to be fished on extremely light heads and it seems that the lighter your head, the more bites you will get.
Another ned rig mistake I see is more of a modification. If you use the modification I show you, it will help you to not have a twisting issue with the ned rig.
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Never realized it was the hook keeper causing the little twist... Thanks
Thanks for the info. Never fished a Ned rig until this year and I am 65. I now catch way more fish.
Way more fish but lots of small fish
Hello from Texas. I'm a new fisherWoman I'm learning so much from you. I have watched 2 or 3 other channels from other fisherman that have lots of videos but I must say you have EXCELLENT and Usefully tutorials. Thanks you for your channel.
The trick is, as you said, light weight. 1/16th or less. But, equally importantly, it needs to fall on slack line. Give it extra line on the water so it falls with no tension. This lets it wiggle waggle on it’s way down. If you have tension it will mostly just glide down which is bad. Too much weight makes it just glide down with no wiggle waggle too. I like to fish it in 10-15’ of water and hop it off the bottom 4-5’ and let it wiggle waggle back down. Don’t like to jerk it off the bottom though. Real down to the water and smoothly lift the rod tip up about 5’ and the. Give it slack and call to the bottom. I never found it to be a drag bait. It’s a free fall bait.
I’m a northern guy so not sure about other places but I throw a ned religiously on a 1/4 because the bait is meant to be on the bottom. If I’m trying to catch them on the fall I’ll throw a light hair jig or something similar.
@Eric White good point
@@eric34399 Or a wacky rig and senko
Thanks for your comment. I found it very useful for myself.
A 3/32th oz. will be the head more close to 1/10th oz. and be just a fraction heavier. It will also be the size available in DO-IT molds and hold the hook better.
Awesome video man! There’s lots of sneaky tips in this. My biggest mistake is fishing too heavy of a ned rig at times - it feels nice to feel bottom but fishing a lighter head tends to get more bites as it “floats” along the bottom and has more action
Bam! You got to take me out on the suspended fish deal. That looks like a hoot!
@@BassFishingHQ I’m totally down. We should make it happen! It’d be awesome to catch some fish and create some unique vids together
I stopped visiting Snag City as soon as I lowered my jig head weights down to 1/10 - 1/15 oz. Never knew it would make a big difference.
Yup just takes forever to sink lol. But nice and slow is good for cold water
Snag city bitch, snag, snag city bitch. 10 -20 and da 50lb lines shit. Homie with the 65lb not loosin shit.
Whenever I feel like loosing a jig gead, I Ned rig.
@@aleckrug1554 0000000000000000000000
Excellent training video. My follow up question is how to know whether to use a Ned rig or a Neko rig.
Thank you for any consideration.
Great information. Thanks. Especially when you clipped off the bait keeper on Ned bead
Thx for the clarity in your videos, your a great communicator. Such helpful ideas!
Swimming a ned with a yo-yo retrieve and treating it like a vertical jig is great for suspended/schooled fish.
110% agree with you on lightweight and the snapping method. For rivers with current... Take a weight where its JUST enough to keep bottom contact and let the current scoot it down stream!
My favorite little trick I saw on YT several years back... Add some maribou to the end of a ned rig!
Great video man! I feel like breaking out the ned rig now!
It's so cool how they reinvent the old ways the Ned rig reminds me a lot of the slider the elastic plastic makes it nice though it is a good bait for cold water
Old school, curly tailed jig anglers might remember cutting the tails of your jigs and downsizing the jig head during a tough bite. Some used to paint over the eyes, some would try to bend the eye out. Ned rigs are a very cool modern take on some old school finesse jigging with curly tails. FN love it!
Does curly tail grub on a small jig head still work for bass? I got some neon grubs and orange jig heads lol
@@andreabruno5495 of course, how u think our grampas used to catch em
I’ll add one more technique. Use the lightest head as possible (1/64th if possible) medium lite rod with 20lb or less braid to 4 or 6lb floro. Cast it out let it fall on semi slack line, watching your line as it falls , begin reeling and raise your rod to about 2 o clock, stop reeling and leave your rod in place . This will make the bait rise off the bottom begin swimming towards you, than as the reeling stops the bait will pendulum back towards you and fall to the bottom. Rinse and repeat . It’s a swimming and drop technique. Very similar to what u had mentioned but slightly different. I got this off john crews on bass u .
Bingo!
Great info. I have actually been setting my neds up needless or sort of a Texas rig style to keep from hanging. Works great. Thanks for the informative vids
Yep..ive been doin that for sometime
Good info , Moved to lexington sc getting back into fishing. Will be watching.
Good video, I like the way you had it edited with on the water footage. One of my tips would be to try different sizes of baits too. The Big TRD has put some big ones in the boat for me.
I buy those big trd and cut them in a regular size and that left one not as long but a lil larger which has put many fish on my line
Always happy to add new info to my fishing log book..thanks..
Great information especially on the Ned Rig. I love the idea of taking the little keeper off the schroom head and going lighter
Great tips. Tip number 3 was new to me, thanks!
I have tried a bunch of different super glues and they tend to dry up on me. Which brand name do you recommend? Love your channel and thank you for helping others and myself on our bass journey.
I saw others recommend Loctite Gel Control, so started using it. Works well, doesn't drip, container doesn't seem to dry out as fast as some others.
Awesome advice. Here in South Africa it is fairly new and we fish it only one way. Will try your advice for sure. Tight lines.
My pap makes his own ned head jigs and they never fail me. Everytime I go out I'll get bit right away! My favorite color ned rig color is chartreuse and black great mix and if the rivers muddy it stands out great! Usually I stick to 1/10-1/16 my personal preference. But if it drops slow ill change it to a heavier ned head jig. Hope I can sell some in the future with my pap there top notch!
How about tip on fishing the NED in the wind? I love fishing it, however here in KS we have a ton of wind. I usually throw it on a 7 ft. ML spinning rod with 10lb braid to 6lb flouro leader and I can't seem to keep it under control without heavier heads. Thanks for a great channel
What tackle tray do you use? looks like the zman lures are doing fine in there.
Hey Tyler here’s a hack for keeping the TRD up on the hook in place without a bait keeper and no glue. I use heads with no bait keeper and simply thread the bait on straight and then pull a little bit of the skin of the bait over the eye of the hook, and snip a little place in it to make a small hole for the eye of the hook to come through. Then it’s ready to tie on. This Works great! No glue, no mess and it will not slip down the hook and you can catch multiple fish this way. Give it a try!
Yea I have seen that as well. I just prefer the dab of glue. But that is definitely a great trick
wouldnt that make the plastic look goofy on the hook? i cant stand not having my worm straight on the ned, i swear it causes you to not get as many bites.
@@tagg946 not at all, It’s still straight as can be. You don’t have to use much of the material. just skin hook it a tiny bit and it holds. Of course it has to be a elaztech material so it stretches but give it a try and you’ll be surprised how well it works. And as far as getting less bites, I’ve found their is no change.
@@west777s Yes definitely saw this trick on Instagram
@@tagg946 trick worms and many worms are meant to be curved. Not saying I like curved neds but if you notice a difference in bites it's because you're fishing it different subconsciously knowing it isn't as straight as you would like. Ever see a nightcrawler lay straight in the water?
I use it a lot. I use the heavier and lighter head weights depending on the cover and structure. I will be throwing on Chick in a couple weeks too.
Awesome 👍🏻.. which fish line is useful??
Very helpful. Will try this method. Thanks
trying to think of way to add these tips to my surf fishing...replaceing sand worms maybe...
Tips I never would have even considered, which is wild considering the ned rig is my pocket ace rig. Three hundred and sixty-five days a year if I need a fish to get that video, the ned rig is always tied on. I thought I had it about figured out. Can't wait to implement these tips.
Try a shaky head ace in the hole I've never been skunked and not caught anything because of it
Good video. Thanks. 2 questions. 1, can you put the plastic worm on a ned rig and make it weedless, like tucking the hook just inside the plastic? Would it still be effective as long as you keep it straight? 2, What weight would you suggest for fishing moving water, like streams and rivers?
I'm evaluating which Ned rig spinning rod attributes I should be weighing most in my analysis in buying a dedicated rod (for it primarily, but sure will cover other finesse applications to some extent). Saw some videos where they were playing up the importance of a parabolic action in the rod, usually they were using a Med. power with a mod-fast or even a moderate action. I think most guys go with a fast or even extra fast action, but seek out a tip on it which isn't overly stiff. It's a little tough assessing that sight unseen. But I couldn't understand their pick of medium power rods where the low end weight rating/suggestion was starting at like 1/4, but many anglers throwing Neds stay light maybe 1/16 and up from there, and fish the .2's and 1/4 oz. weights more as the exception than the rule. What is the strength of the argument for shorter rods for ned technique (like 6'8, 6'10 and 7'0) vs. a 7'5 or a 7'6, which always has better hook sets at the end of long casts and fights a fish better than with a short rod? Can you share some of your educated opinions on these questions?
Didn’t see a response so I throw one to ya:
I have caught a couple 1,000 smallmouth bass and hundreds of largemouth bass on the Ned Rig. Usual Ned Head weight is 1/15 oz. and 1/10 oz. I suggest a 7’ medium light, fast tip rod for distance casting (boat or shore). Kinda assuming you are 5’’5” to 6’ 10’ tall. Go to say a 6’6” rod if shorter or you are only focused on short, highly accurate casts such as boat docks or low laying branches.
One rod suggestion: St Croix Premier PS70MLF2SG: 7’, Medium Light, Fast Action, Two-Piece, Split Grip, rated 4-10 lb. Line, 1/8 oz.- 1/2 oz., $160 at Bass Pro as of 6/2/2023. Excellent warrantee if you break the rod. Two piece so you can always have it rigged and “broken down”. Use a couple of girls rubber band like Hair Ties to keep the two rod sections together when traveling. Mark the rod every two inches and you can simply measure a fish by holding it up against your rod.
On streams I use a Z-Man Finesse Bullethead Weedless Jig in 1/10 oz. and 1/15 oz. with a Z-Man TRD CrawZ (green pumpkin). Best day on a stream so far is 166 smallmouth bass. But, I used a BFS Setup (Shimano Metanium BFS bait casting reel but now Shimano makes a sweet Curado BFS bait casting reel for close to $200 less) with a Medium action Shimano rod so I could cast, hook, reel and then swing the bass to my hip where it could be quickly be released.
Hope this info helps someone.
Life is Good.
@@kevinlynch6799 I appreciate the info! Just wondering what size braid you running on the St. Croix Premier?
@@Nels_In_Montana Thanks for asking:
I used 12lb. White Berkley Nono-fil braid with a 6’ to 12’ leader of 8 lb. test (usually fluorocarbon but mono is fine too). I tie the FG knot with 30 loops to connect the braid to leader as the Nano-fil is soooo slick you need extra loops. Test the knot before sing as more than once I tied the perfect knot only to test and find the knot slipped! 12’ leader allows me to cut off and retie quickly if my line gets nicked or I change lures. White Nano-fil as I catch over 30% of my bass seeing the white braid move before my rod “telegraphs” the pickup. 8lb. leader line is strong enough to “swing” the bass out of the water to my left hip where I hold the bass as I pop the lure out by hand or long narrow pliers on a retractable leash. Fish drops right back in the water quickly.
Very good video. I pour my own also. But I went with the wide gap hook. because of fishing around logs and stumps.
I’m glad somebody finally made this point about go on as light as possible and just swimming at through the water column I’m from Minnesota and this is where that tactic was developed by a guy named Ned if you’re not Ray Guy is making it to the bottom then you’re just fishing a jig Danny miles will just go back to using a jig
Just caught my first ned rig bass yesterday. It was my last resort, and it lived up to its name.
Why did it remind you of Ned?
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Great video never thought of those methods will try next time I'm on the water. thanks for new ideas
@0:07 seconds...first mistake is to use the ceramic ring of your guide as a hook keeper.
Thanks Tyler for this Gr8t video. Can't wait to apply these tip. Keep em coming
I’m from southwest Ohio and as you know the Ned is deadly in our river for the smallies 🔥 I started making some ewg neds with a modified mold and they are my juice 🎣 You have a good channel man keep up the good vids bud
How do you make them
I would like to do same for the ewg hooks
Thanks
Love # 3. Will try it. Usually use 1/10 jig head but, may try 1/15. No rock bottom lakes here.
Hey Tyler, I purchased a bass hat from ya and all my fishing buddies want one. Cool hat!
I just swim it, it’s underrated for sure. I lost three of the z-man plastics today but that’s beside the point
Thank you for taking the time to make this video
The light weight with currents in my country is a problem. I cant fish 1/10 because the current sweeps away my whole turd.
Great video. I really enjoy your way of giving option for each scenario.
Winter fishing for pike? droppinf straight down in an ice hole and twitching the rig?
Keep up the good work,invaluable information and straightforward to the point!
Great video!! A lot of good information to take out on the water!! Question: When making your own ned rigs do you leave off the bait keeper since you mentioned cutting the one off the mushroomz head?? Thanks!! Stay Safe & God Bless!!
Tell me the diffrens between ned rig and shakyhead. I think it is almost the same but i get more fish on shaky head with a crawfish bait.
The shakey heads are weedless I think is what makes the difference and a generally different style of head
Thanks for the tips Tyler they really help caught one today using your tips
Great show. Can you do a Carolina rig tips and tricks. I catch a lot of fish on a Carolina rig with a zoom centipede
Love your videos, I'm a new bass fisherman, early retirement lol. You make it interesting. Thanks
Used my version of the Ned rig and caught a 6.6 and a 5.24 large mouth. Thanks
can you do a video on how to hookset and fight fish using a ned rig/ light finesse tactics
What you are saying works for Walleye too. Along with all the walleye, I catch a lot of other fish also.
Got a 34” pike off a bitty Ned rig :) there extremely versatile between species.
Heading to Academy to get some ZMan Ned Rig stuff.
I fish different ways with all my rigs that I use!!! You can make things up and catch fish!
I catch lots of fish on a wacky worm with a weighted ewg hook. I swim all rigs, i drag all rigs, i pop all rigs!!! Just fish man and try things that you think of and it might just work
Going to try ned rig for first time coming up this week...Thanks for the wonderful tips on what NOT to do....sent the vid to my email so I'll have it saved to share with hubby 'after' I catch some! LOL
Thanks for the video. i going to start fishing the way you talk about,. i one of them thats been fishing it wrong.
Interesting stuff...but heavy ned rig jig heads can be awesome. I call it the Turd Jig. Now...I do get hung up a ton...but I get tons of bites. Think it helps illicit a reaction bite
Love that hat.
I stay with ribbon tails on deck....or should I say in my pouch.😁 Has always been my starter and finisher during a day fishing.
Great vid Tyler on the Ned. I definitely need to go lighter. How light of line do you use when swimming it? Keep up the awsome vids.
I was just watching another channel.. 4-6 up to 8lb
Thanks for the tips…caught the biggest Crappie I have ever caught so far, while Bass fishing…on the Ned Rig.
Ned rig fished in the middle of water column is not a ned rig anymore essentially.
Great video. When nothing else is working, throw the NED. Totally agree, 1/15oz or 1/20oz, will get way more bites than 1/8 or less. You can throw any Z-Man elaztech plastic on the Ned and it will catch fish. TRD ticklerz is even better than the original trd. “The Deal” and “Hot Snakes are great baitfish imitators.
Lighter weights is definitely the deal
Used to fish the little charlie brewer slider worms like that.
Hooking the Ned Rig through the eye of the rod. Mistake 1
Really enjoy your videos. Thanks for the info!
Awesome video! Love to finesse fish! Thanks for sharing!
On this video , you are fishing my buddies lake house dock , I fish out on that Blazer a lot and now i have an Allison Craft with a 2.5 and he has a new Nitro where that Blazer use to be LOL
Eric Miller and my buddy Gary Kirk owns that lake home LOL
What’s your rod setup?
Just a tip take a floating trick worm you’ll catch bigger fish I promis and get the Xmas shroom jigs that say pro hook so you can actually set the hook and reel em in
Xmas hahah Zman
My favorite rig has been the Texas but the Ned has been money for me this summer. No matter the time of day or the forecast. Easily my favorite rig this summer.
Must I only use TRDs with my ned rigs or can I use cheaper stick baits (Yum, Big Game, etc.) and simply cut in 1/2 a traditional 6” stick bait?
Works for me
Ned rig style bait works great on a drop shot too.
You can put any bait you want on a ned rig. It works great with so many different baits
24k to 38k subs in a month? Dang dude, you're blowing up. Congrats.
GREAT INFO!! Thank you. I subscribed
Great tips. Thanks from Western Kentucky.
what advice would you give me I want to start using it as a co-angler
As a co I would definitely just suggest you throwing it. You are definitely gonna pick up fish that your boater misses. I just don’t think there is a bad place to throw it. You just might have to change up your heads depending on what you are fishing around
@@BassFishingHQ thanks
I like the Ned jig head with a swimbait. Or Ned it. Very versatile
Ty for use full info.
Great tips can" wait to try them out.
You're doing a great job! Thank you!!!
Very informative, thank you.
Z-Man Ned Lockz HD Jig Head 1/10th or 1/15th, and then I flip to the Z-Man Nedlockz EWG Jig Heads when the summer is in full effect and weeds/hydrilla are in abundance. I use the same jigheads to fish a BIG TRD wacky.
I love the zman bait keeper, but now I'm going to try the super glue trick. I never thought to try super glue on a worm for some reason
I love your videos and you are awesome 👌
Your valuable time and experience is Amazing 👏
I put a wavy tail minnow on a Ned rig and bounced it across the rivwr and caught a 32" northern pike.
Thoughts on using weedless jig heads on ned trd?
I throw the ned heads with a small weed guard on them when I need to. If there is any way I can fish it exposed then that is what I prefer
I'm glad your fixed the eco on your garage. Thanks much better.
Finally spend some money on a mic ;)
I just started using the giant trd neds...on the mag shroom. Caught a couple 3 lbers
Yes! That’s a good deal. Plan on doing a video on just that in the future
@@BassFishingHQ yeah you should I noticed I was using the 3/8s mag shroom n I ended up losing a few from gettin snagged probably didn't need to go that heavy
Thanks for the info it really helps out there
Do yal think a Ned Rig could be good on a river? I fish the Chattahoochee here in Atlanta and haven't had a ton of luck yet. I been using mostly spinner baits and rooster tails, I think I need to try some new things.
I read somewhere that the originator of the ned rig (Ned Keating) uses heavy line on his.
Great tutorial 👍🏾🤙🏾
Thanks for this..first time using the ned rig heading to the upper Mississippi for smallmouth. What do you do to fish it in super heavy current?
1- 1½ Carolina rig
Great tips! I was actually dealing with the twisted ned today! Had a good day landed 19. I’m using 1/4 fishing vertically around structure I’ll try a lighter weight see if I can get 50.
Used to swim a tiny bait thru the water years ago and still have plenty of the tackle. It is called a Slider rig.
A lot of the new stuff isn't new. Shakeyhead is just a jigworm
Charlie Brewer "do-nuthin" baits.
@ wasn't that the original Carolina rig? Roadrunners were the original underspin. Spy baits were Devilhorses. Ect.
I fish a 1/16 oz slider original head w a yama shad shape worm. Awesome bait for suspended smallies 🐟