This COMPLETELY Replaced the Ned Rig for Me - Many Viewer Requests for This Video
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- Опубликовано: 24 апр 2024
- Ned Rigs are terrific presentations, but they have some limitations. The Jig Rig eliminates the problems a Ned Rig has, but still keeps all the fish-catching benefits. This setup has replaced the Ned Rig for me, yet still uses the same soft plastics Ned Rig anglers love.
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Great video Steve! Here in southern Brazil, we have been using a similar setup for about 10 years for catching Traíras (Hoplias Malabaricus). The difference is that we don't use a swivel or split ring, just a snap with a weight and hook. It's very practical for changing the weight of the sinkers and the size of the hooks. Keep up the great work! Greetings from Brazil.
Thanks! I love hearing from people around the world. Brazil is one country I hope to visit someday.
We will be glad to have you here!
Very interesting, love the simplicity! I’ve always been a big 10” plus worm and jig guy but I really like your concept and believe I’ll try it with some smaller 4-6” worms on some of our East Texas waters. Tip of the hat to ya!
Wonderfull video steve ! Thanks for sharing!
I just found your channel about a week ago and I must be subscribed to 50 plus bass fishing channels by now but yours is hands down the best channel. The content and the way its presented is so helpful for anyone from beginner to advanced angler I believe.
Thanks so much!
Cool rig, Steve. Great to see ya and pray u are well. God Bless
Thanks! I hope you have an amazing weekend coming up!
I came across this technique in one of your previous videos and decided to give it a try. It worked like a charm! I've been using it for a month now and have seen excellent results.
That is awesome! Thanks for sharing that.
Just like all of your presentations, this is so informative. IMO Steve Rogers is among the best and I'm not sure why the subs aren't plus 200k.
I appreciate that!
Totally agree, the mixture of underwater shots, close ups and informative dialogue., with NO annoying music, is awesome
Cool! Looking forward to trying this one out!
Good luck with it! Let me know how it goes for you.
my friend used this rig last weekend near the last hour before dark and caught a 3 pounder and a keeper. he made his own. it is new to both of us. he gave me a couple, will definetly be trying this more. thank you as always Steve for awesome insight.
Good luck! I love this rig.
You described the southern of my home lakes with that mucky bottom. The northern lake is very woody. This should work in both lakes. Can’t wait to try it.
Good luck with it! Lots of mucky lake beds around here too. The summer boat traffic helps some cleaning areas off with their boat wakes, but not quite ready for all that traffic to hit the water though.
@@SteveRogersOutdoorsdude that underwater footage looks so juicy I could take a bite outta that thing, I fish natural ponds and lakes in the northeast, very similar bottom composition, I am jacked up to give this a try
I need to try this setup Steve! I fish a lot of laydowns and sometimes I want a smaller presentation. This looks like it would be deadly! I might try this on a small TRD craw to see how it does. Thanks Steve. I hope you and your family are well.
It sure catches a bunch of fish. That little craw would be great! The family is doing well - thank you, and hope the same for you!
Never saw this before this video, thank you I just ordered a bunch
Good luck with it!
Nice rig Steve, and as always the underwater view makes it great! Looks like a super short Tokyo rig. I found the pre-built Tokyo wire, swivel, split ring pre-made on the asian supplier sites and amazon at great prices, with 6inch wires. I use them to make all kinds of custom configs of length, weight and hook. I'll be adding the supper short w/ a football weight for my rock climbing in or NW Texas lakes after looking at this. Ive even added on the wire a few crimped on round splitshot to get very light weight w/ the swivel action and a floating micro bait.... get's it done!
That is awesome! Thank you.
Steve, just received an order from Varivas! Can't wait to get out and try them!!😎 Stay Safe & God Bless!!! 🤠👍
Good luck! Let me know how it goes.
My Varivas order is arriving shortly and I too am eager to give it a go.
Awesome rig Steve! I love JDM techniques! This is kinda a mix between the Tokyo rig and a finesse ned rig Texas rigging the ned plastic on a EWG hook is so cool! Thanks for your awesome videos!
Glad you like it!
Great video!
I started making those last year
That is a really great setup. I've cobbled together something similar using a round drop shot weight, but it isn't nearly as compact or as efficient. As someone who fishes lakes where ned rigs are little more than an invitation to frustration, I am seriously going to give this a go.
Let me know how it goes for you. Would love to get your thoughts on it. I have been super impressed with it for sure.
Pretty cool rig. I recently used the new VMC swinging ned rig heads rigged weedless and it served a very similar purpose and worked well. I like that you can easily change weights with this rig I might have to try it sometime
Good luck with it and thanks so much for watching!
Awesome video captain, never really gotten into Ned rig. I've always been using dropshot style with the weight right near the hook. Does the same damage. Love the grenade weight.
That little grenade weight is expensive but when I first saw them I just had to get some. Lol.
Great Video Steve! This is working great on Table Rock right now!
Awesome! I need to get back down there again. Just love that lake.
@@SteveRogersOutdoors anytime your here and want to fish let me know!
Sensational 👏👏
Great information thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Nice one Steve 👍🏻
Thanks 👍
Looks like my leader setup I sent you. Great video must try this.
Very similar. This has worked well for me, can be pricey, but really love those little weights.
Cool rig. I haven't seen this before. I add # 2 owner HW split rings to my hooks for texas rigs all the time. So they have a free swing. I'll definitely be putting this rig together. I already have all the parts.
Good luck with it! I just love it.
I love these video's! It would be awesome if you could make a video for this rig specifically where you show how you can best set the hook with this rig and bait setup. And also talk about the best rod and reel setup for this lighter version of the jika rig and what line to use ect
That is an excellent idea. I will have to get that one done. Thank you!
Thank you. I love Ned fishing but hate the number of Ned hooks I give to the lake. Hope this tip keeps me fishing instead of tying knots.
This is wild seeing this, I just made this rig today minus the swivel. I took a ewg, split ring, and a teardrop weight. Looks like I might need to try to add a swivel, I was excited to try it out but now even a little more 😂
Good luck! Let me know how it goes for you.
I've been experimenting with different iterations of this basic idea. One constant pain when using the offset widegap hook (#1 in my case) is that when you catch a fish, the TRD tends to slide up the line. Not a problem with a traditional plastic, but the elaztech stuff makes it tough to get it back in place on the hook. I'm hoping to find a simple way to prevent that from happening. Excellent video as always brother!
Thank you! The elaztech is definitely challenging to get to sit right. There are days it seems like it takes me a long time to get it the way I want.
Take the swivel off and add a small chatter bait blade and it’s a killer micro bladed jig
Great video I am going to have to try that some of the small lakes i fish here in northern Arkansas have a grass and lot of wood in them i think this will work.
I have lots of great luck with it in the vegetation.
Been needing a rig like this! I'm in Florida so i rarely use the ned because of the constant snags
Yeah, me too. I only really use a ned rig for redfish and flounder in saltwater when I am fishing a sand bottom. This is perfect for the vegged out ponds I normally fish.
It has been a great rig for me. Just love it.
@@Steve-ev6vx I should do that on the sand flats for trout and pompano! I don't know why I never thought of it lol
Steve you speak well, have great perspective and I believe what you say. Great channel. I appreciate you!
I appreciate that and thanks so much for taking the time to watch!
Mustad assault 1/0 with a 1/8 free rig tungsten, bobber stop against the knot and another about 6” up from the weight has been working awesome for me. TRd’s or crush city Ned blt’s. Also 6th sense ned fry’s.
Awesome! Thank you for sharing this.
Interesting, looks great in the water. How would this do in rocky situations, that hang up a lot of sinkers?
In smaller gravel and rock it does really well, in larger rock in can slip into the crevices. Whenever I fish rock I do try to use the lightest weight I can.
@@SteveRogersOutdoors I use the lightest weight as well, in general. Maybe use a small length of lead (or the modern equivalent where lead is a no-no) wire doubled over the eye where there are heavier rocks to make it easier to slip through? Those are also the areas that hold the sort of critters a ned rig imitates, too.
Great video. I’m definitely interested in trying this rig out… where can I purchase some fully rigged set ups?
The links for the Varivas website are in the description section of the video. I buy them directly from their website. Good luck with them!
Do you tex-pose the hook? I set up one of these rigs to try and found that the elaztech held onto the hook point so much that it may make a good hookset difficult. Thoughts?
I have done both. Most often I do try to Tex-pose everything. Excellent question.
This setup looks cool! Only one question: why swivel? Thx
That's a great question. I haven't tried it without the swivel. I'm guessing when Varivas was working on this, the swivel eliminated possible line twist when reeling the rig back in. It might have had a tendency to roll on the fast retrieve back. I'll have to do some investigating with that. Thank you.
It’s a mini Tokyo rig!
Interesting setup. It would help greatly if links to the specific equipment talked about in the video were provided though.
I will add them down below in a minute. I forgot to do that. Thank you for letting me know.
What set up do you like for this technique? Spinning rod and light line like a traditional Ned Rig or do you beef up some for the Texas rig? Thanks
I do use it on spinning gear like I would a regular Ned rig. Thank you for watching.
@@SteveRogersOutdoors I suspected. I was thinking medium action casting rod, so it sounds like I’m on the right track. We have a lot of shallow water here in Texas where the bottom gets mucky. A drop shot works but it’s so boring and everyone is throwing one now. Thanks for the tip Steve!
aaargh!! Steve, my man, you have let out the big secret!!! lol......this rig KILLS where I hail from, because the NYC reservoir system is full of waters that are inundated with seen and unseen branches on the bottom and using a standard Ned setup results in too many hangups.....this rig rarely gets caught up and the hook up ratio is fantastic....
It is a great one for sure. Just love the setup and I love fishing New York. Haven’t fished the city system though.
@@SteveRogersOutdoors we have a ton of these waters, but they are tightly regulated requiring a special permit, and aluminum boats are chained to trees on the shorelines for the season...no trolling motors allowed, so it is row your boat which forces you to fish more thoroughly, as it is difficult to run and gun....the upside is not a lot of fishing pressure...this was all flooded farmland, so , we have numerous stone boundary walls out there away from shore. All undeveloped shoreline: no houses, no docks.....
what size hook do you use on a reg TRD and a Big TRD?
The hook in the video was a 1/0. For the big TRD I would probably use the 2/0. Great questions! Thanks for watching.
I purchased a lot of these products from Varivas after the last video you made with them. Still haven't used any of it. Waiting for a little warmer water. How does this presentation do in extremely sticky, loose chunk rock?
That is a great question. I've had the best luck using the lighter weights so they don't drop into the crevices as deep. It would be interesting to find a clip weight that had a football head shape to it. I wonder if some small clip on wobble heads would work great for that situation.
@@SteveRogersOutdoors That could possibly work. I'll start looking around. I've found only one thing that seems to come through nasty rock terrain well, doesn't have a tendency to slip down into those tiny wedges between rocks. Let us know if you find anything!
What size weights should be used with this rig?
Great question. I really like the smaller weights, like the 1/16oz.
I use somethg just like that in Ireland for perch and pike fishing. It's batter then your ned head.or use chep wh8t with your soft baits killer rig.
Excellent! I hear so many good things about the perch fishing in Ireland. I need to get there someday and give it a try.
@@SteveRogersOutdoors you what to go pike fishing in loch derg 1meter long pike and bigger trout are huge and perch big com on it next mt .
Steve,do you have a link for that rig or links for the components?
Thank you
I am going to add that in a minute. I forgot to put them in. Thank you for letting me know.
An alternative is with a RYUGI Glide Hanger and use any casting weight you want.
Thanks for sharing this!
What's a good size for standard ned setup?
I really like the 1/0 size for the hook and then start off usually with the 1/16 oz weight and then adjust from there.
I've got this tied up and ready to go if the weather ever breaks here... wind and rain last 2 weeks haven't been able to get in the boat yet... I need to move lol😅
Go on line and check out rain suits, they’ll get you back on the water in no time! LMBO just pushing your button! …. I’m getting older now days and pick and choose when I go fishing also lol I guess at some point I’ve become a fair weather fisherman!
@@tomc8930 it's not so much the rain as the 25 to 35 mph winds that keep me home
The winds here have just been horrific as well. I have a bunch of projects I am working on and just can't get them done yet because the wind is so bad. It was gusting to 45+mph yesterday and literally blew me off the lake.
@@somewhereinsd362 lol I was just screwing with you from one fisherman to the next! I live in east Texas and we get absolutely hammered at times with rain and the wind is a killer and totally understand staying home unless we’re tournament fishing!
@@SteveRogersOutdoors 45 MPH winds are absolutely brutal! I’ve had to fish a few days in those winds!
What size of hook works well for a TRD for example?
The hook in the video was a 1/0. Thanks!
Jig rig has sense with floating bait, but for not floating ned rig is best rig
I think these might be killer for Berkley gillys
Do the Gillys float?
Tokyo rig is the shit. We been using these for years. Its another technique from japan. Chebruski is another good rig setup too. Cheers.
There are some great techniques from there! I'm working on an another Tokyo rig video. Hope to have it out soon. First time I fished it I was super impressed.
I was thinking of doing this with a zman darters or jerkbait
I think that would be a great rig!
I'd sure like to see a creature bait or craw on that!
That would be an awesome setup.
What hook size you using there for the TRD?
That one was the 1/0.
@@SteveRogersOutdoors Thanks brother
Great video…but why not just use a Ned EWG hook???
I agree! No one responded to this. It seems a lot simpler (and cheaper) to me.
You most definitely could, and for sure it is a much cheaper option.
I would like to try this, could your provide the source link for the rings alone?
The hooks I used came from this site: www.varivas.fishing/product/rock_on-ring-gritter-hook/ If you want just rings, this site doesn't have any that I have seen, but about any split ring should work.
@@SteveRogersOutdoors I've tried this concept with split rings but the rings are so wide it binds in the EWG hook eye. I ordered the grenades from Varivas and am on the list for the pre-made hooks (2/0) because they haven't any left in stock. Was also thinking of just using a snap swivel and attaching the weight to the upper eye? Appreciate the reply...FISH ON!
Yeah I am gonna have to give this a try. I am in Florida and a ned rig isn't ideal. To much vegetation, mud, and timber.
Good luck with it! I really love it for working through vegetation.
Umm what size hook are you using in the video please. Thank you
That one was the 1/0.
just use Cheburashka, IMO its simpler and better
I think it wont stand up as good, but for most senarios it works just as well.
What size hook and weight were you using for trd
That one was the #1.
Sorry, the 1/0.
Thx Steve you’ve taught me alot over the years. Much appreciated. God Bless
Zman makes weedless jig hook called bullet z works so well best most weedless ned rig hook they make if u haven't tried that one give it a shot
I will. Thank you!
You know they make EWG offset ned rigs so that you can Texas rig the ned worm and not get hung up as much.
Don’t you think you’d get a little more action with this setup? I’m going to try this setup but I’m planning on using a 4 maybe even 6” worm and maybe a creature bait.
@@tomc8930 Yes, that's certainly possible, but my guess is that it would be nominal. I have more confidence with the Z Man EWG offset than any other Ned rig, and I've tried them all. Assuming you're using a soft ned bait that floats, it stands straight up when dragged or hopped across the bottom. I get snagged way less than with a standard open hook setup.
I'll try this other method, but a lot is going on. A clip, a hanging weight, and a hook. I try to err on the side of less is more when fishing bass and the EWG ned rig is a simple line to jig, and you're fishing.
If you're using a six inch bait perhaps his method might be easier. I typically don't use anything larger than the 4 inch TRD when ned rigging and this works great with the EWG Texas rigged.
Did you bend that hook out a little on purpose at 0:50 ?
No, I sure didn't. It looks like it is a bit bent out a tiny bit. I have used them a lot, so I'm guessing it is getting about the end of the life on that one. Thanks for watching!
@@SteveRogersOutdoors Yeah i see the hook point is more exposed on this hook compared to most other ewg hooks which is a good thing offcourse!
Chebu ?
Would love to find a cheaper weight option
They are pricey. I believe there are some other brands that have much more reasonable clip on weights.
What's it called
I have the links in the description for the jig rig components I used for this one. Thanks for watching!
So why not use a shaky head?
Great question, and I had that in the video and edited it out to shorten the video a bit. Basically, I use this one when I want that really small profile instead of a longer shaky setup.
Why not just use the weedless NED head
it look like mini toyto rig
Definitely does. Thanks for watching.
HMM 🤔 🤔 Sounds interesting , but the majority of the lakes that I fish are covered with vegetation...
That vegetation can be tough for sure.