Hi Roger, wanted to say hi and I hope all is well with you. Sort of the off season here in Michigan for trap. But never an off season for learning. Looking forward to you next video gem See the bird, shoot the bird. Best regards, Rick Mansberger Michigan, USA
Just like hitting a golf ball over water. I don't look where I "don't" want the ball to go, I look where I want my ball "to" go. Now that I'm shooting trap I need to start "believing" that I'm going to hit every target. Easier said than done sometimes but as usual your lessons are spot on. Thanks
Great video and advice as always Roger. Seems my biggest problem is blocking out distractions and my own confidence. I find when I go in the trap, a lot of people will stand around to watch. Of course they all have their advice to give me too. The last two times at the range, I didn't even want to use my shot gun because of this. My son is still averaging 24/25. On another note, I've started to enjoy silhouette targets from a standing position rather than just shooting paper from a bench. Not many people go to that part of the range so I enjoy the quiet time for myself to practice and I do quite well. Thanks again for a great video. :-)
Tracy...yes it would be annoying to have a lot of people watching and giving advice...glad to hear you are enjoying the silhouette targets...but don't give up on trap. Glad your son is shooting well. Good on you!
Tracy...i think they watch you because your nice and they just want to help...you know the alpha male thing helping the hapless woman...yes it's hard because you don't want to say not to watch and not to give you advice.
It's always good to see a video from you Roger. I'll be reviewing this video as well as re-watching some of your earlier ones going forward. I also want you to know that you have helped me tremendously with things like: See Bird Shoot Bird Changing things in a slump. Super Cleaning Eezy-Peezy Fit Analyzing Hits I just need to work on my consistency of technique. When I get sloppy my score declines significantly. For me, sloppy starts with my trigger hand grip as that is where I notice things going awry first. If I grip semi firmly, I stay focused. Next I'm moving on to keeping a score sheet now that I'm getting more serious. So I did have an experience this winter which I'll describe as "wind in my face..." on a -6C day. It was a wild round(s) - fun actually since I knew it would be challenging. I thought of your saying "... the gun's in the case." I shoot a Citori 725 Sporting with an adjustable comb. As near as I can tell it's Browning's Beretta in how slim it is compared to the previous 425, 525, 625... Superposed. I really like it - the DS choke tubes are outstanding in how they seal. You'd know it as the B725. The US uses a slightly different set of names in the Browning product line apparently... different offerings too... Thanks for all your help Roger. Ron
Ron good to hear from you and thank you for the kind comments...if I have been of any help then that makes me very happy and you are most welcome...trap...as you know ...is a frustrating sport....I went to practice today and it just wasn't happening...some days it's just hard to get into it and really focus and concentrate...good on you and stay well!
Hi Roger, Picked up some good good tips from your videos. My scores have steadily improved lately. I got a 24/71 followed by a 24/72 a few months back. A few weeks ago I was pleased to get a 25/71. 1st time I got them all. My over and under needed a service so it's been away for two weeks so no shooting. Sunday just gone I got my first 25/75 - with my pump action!
@@rogerpace9322 thanks mate! Third time doing 100 DTL last Sunday. 1st time was an 89/263, 2nd time scored 88/262, Sunday just gone I got my new personal best score of 93/271! Very happy with my progress but now I'm skint until payday at the end of the month!
Hi Roger, One thing you might want to add is that since our ears never stop growing one must buy new custom plugs every couple of years. There are many shooters that never do. You can easily spot them at my club, they are the ones yelling at everyone ;) thank you for all the videos and please do more.
Hello Roger, I found your videos before our State Shoot in Michigan last weekend. I have been in Trap Shooting for just one year at a limited exposure. My mentor is Art “Pop” Turner from Guns and Bows in Morrice, MI. Pop is an excellent teacher and my first time out ever with a shotgun I ran 15 straight. Pop wanted to know if I had ever done this before, I had not. So I had 200 registered targets last year and I had not shot since May 15th 2017. Prior to the State Shoot last weekend, Pop got me out at his club and I had 100 targets, 18, 19,21, 22. Not bad but rusty, so off we went to the State Shoot. My first day was not that great, Pop offered some schooling after the day was done. The next day I wanted to do better, I found your videos and you echoed Pops teachings. It all must have sunk in, on the second 25 I really wanted to buckle down and thought wouldn’t it be great if I could go clean on Pop’s squad. I got to the 5th station still clean, one shot at a time, repeated one shot at a time, Pop always says 24 is easy, the 25th is a bit harder. I kept it together and busted the 25th clean. I was very excited and I cannot wait to they shoot my hat next week at the club. Thank you for your videos, they are very logical and helpful. And thank you to my Pop, who was surprised as my squad and said, “I didn’t think you were good enough yet to bust 25 clean”. Typical Pop, that’s why I love him. Rick Mansberger Student of Art Turner
Fantastic video... Most people defeat themselves in their mind... I have witnessed this thousands of times on the Trap course. In Canada where I shoot ATA trap and doubles trap people psych themselves out and I have been victim of this too. You have to practice both physically with muscle memory and mentally for consistency. I have shot dozens of perfect rounds in both single and double trap and those only happen when your muscle memory and your mind are working in sync. The other thing I've noticed is that people are scared to push themselves into proper thought train. You have to step outside your comfort zone in order to improve. I shoot alot in practice and competition and the people I notice improving push themselves far past what they believe they could do. I have trained several folks who from the point of never holding a shotgun to the point of consistently having rounds of 22 or better. Some people just have a natural knack for it and some people that takes a lot of work. The other thing I've noticed is people are afraid to dish out the proper amount of money for Quality firearms designed for the clay sport they choose to participate in and they skimp and this ends up costing them because they have a tendency to choose one firearm or another and then blame it on the firearm instead of getting proper advice and buying quality from the beginning and learning with that firearm. People underestimate just about everything about the clay Sports.
Gun mount suggestion... stand in front of the mirror and practice mounting the gun do this dozens of times a day for three days of the week. This will help you and show you your faults...guaranteed improvement!
Howdy Roger! Well yesterday I did something I didn't anticipate... I shot a 50 straight in doubles. That's good in all but I wasn't anticipating it. As a matter of fact I wasn't even feeling up to being on the Trap course yesterday. Funny thing about the Trap Sports is one day you can be all hyped up feeling good ready to participate to your best ability and shoot craps scores either in ATA events or practice rounds. And other days you can be feeling less than perfect and do amazing. Still baffles me why that is but my theory is repetition thought pattern and muscle memory account for success on those days when you may not feel like being there. But true devotees to the clay Sports go even when they don't feel like it.
Never understood Length of pull & the 2 inch rule between your knuckle of your hand & the tip of your nose. I've seen a gold medalist Alex Rennert, he mounts his face very close to the barrels. Can you please do a video Roger about length of pull. Thanks so much. Best wishes
I'm here in America and shoot trap. One question. Both eyes open or one? I prefer one open as I just cannot shoot with both open no matter how much I practice it. What are your thoughts?
If you are shooting well with one eye ...then stick with it but if you are not happy with your scores then try both eyes open...it will be strange at first but it could improve scores...stay well!
Cheers Roger. Good to see another video from you. It is important to have faith in yourself.
Backspin66...good to hear from you...thanks mate!
Hi Roger, wanted to say hi and I hope all is well with you. Sort of the off season here in Michigan for trap. But never an off season for learning.
Looking forward to you next video gem
See the bird, shoot the bird.
Best regards,
Rick Mansberger
Michigan, USA
Rick sorry for the late reply...good to hear from you!
Just like hitting a golf ball over water. I don't look where I "don't" want the ball to go, I look where I want my ball "to" go. Now that I'm shooting trap I need to start "believing" that I'm going to hit every target. Easier said than done sometimes but as usual your lessons are spot on. Thanks
More videos please .. i like your videos roger.
Thanks
Thank you Roger for that valuable advice. Noted everything in my mind. Cheers.
Navjot...good on you!
Great video and advice as always Roger. Seems my biggest problem is blocking out distractions and my own confidence. I find when I go in the trap, a lot of people will stand around to watch. Of course they all have their advice to give me too. The last two times at the range, I didn't even want to use my shot gun because of this. My son is still averaging 24/25. On another note, I've started to enjoy silhouette targets from a standing position rather than just shooting paper from a bench. Not many people go to that part of the range so I enjoy the quiet time for myself to practice and I do quite well. Thanks again for a great video. :-)
Tracy...yes it would be annoying to have a lot of people watching and giving advice...glad to hear you are enjoying the silhouette targets...but don't give up on trap. Glad your son is shooting well. Good on you!
People don't line up to watch my son.
Tracy...i think they watch you because your nice and they just want to help...you know the alpha male thing helping the hapless woman...yes it's hard because you don't want to say not to watch and not to give you advice.
I should shout it, leave me alone!
Yes just say that people watching puts you off and all the different advice is just plain confusing and overwhelming....
Hey Rodger we would love to see you out on the range 🙏
Star light...i will give it a go...and see how the quality of the video turns out!!!
Roger Pace I’ve just purchased a Beretta 694 Trap they are the first into Australia do you think it’s a good buy?
I shot 20 today! First time ever! My highest score! Thanks for your videos and teaching, it helps a lot. I saw bird I shot it!
Good on you...if you can shoot a 20..then you will soon be shooting a 25 ...and that is a good feeling!!!
Roger Pace, thank you, Sir. My current best score is 22 and I am working on improving it. Thank you for reply. I hope your are safe and doing great!
It's always good to see a video from you Roger. I'll be reviewing this video as well as re-watching some of your earlier ones going forward. I also want you to know that you have helped me tremendously with things like:
See Bird Shoot Bird
Changing things in a slump.
Super Cleaning
Eezy-Peezy
Fit
Analyzing Hits
I just need to work on my consistency of technique. When I get sloppy my score declines significantly. For me, sloppy starts with my trigger hand grip as that is where I notice things going awry first. If I grip semi firmly, I stay focused. Next I'm moving on to keeping a score sheet now that I'm getting more serious.
So I did have an experience this winter which I'll describe as "wind in my face..." on a -6C day. It was a wild round(s) - fun actually since I knew it would be challenging. I thought of your saying "... the gun's in the case."
I shoot a Citori 725 Sporting with an adjustable comb. As near as I can tell it's Browning's Beretta in how slim it is compared to the previous 425, 525, 625... Superposed. I really like it - the DS choke tubes are outstanding in how they seal. You'd know it as the B725. The US uses a slightly different set of names in the Browning product line apparently... different offerings too...
Thanks for all your help Roger.
Ron
Ron good to hear from you and thank you for the kind comments...if I have been of any help then that makes me very happy and you are most welcome...trap...as you know ...is a frustrating sport....I went to practice today and it just wasn't happening...some days it's just hard to get into it and really focus and concentrate...good on you and stay well!
Very interesting... thank you Roger. 👍🏼
Great video. New to shooting trap.
thanks for watching...much appreciated...stay well and happy shooting !!!
Hi Roger,
Picked up some good good tips from your videos.
My scores have steadily improved lately.
I got a 24/71 followed by a 24/72 a few months back.
A few weeks ago I was pleased to get a 25/71. 1st time I got them all.
My over and under needed a service so it's been away for two weeks so no shooting.
Sunday just gone I got my first 25/75 - with my pump action!
Jamie...they are very good scores...i am assuming that is a pointscore event...well done!
@@rogerpace9322 thanks mate! Third time doing 100 DTL last Sunday. 1st time was an 89/263, 2nd time scored 88/262, Sunday just gone I got my new personal best score of 93/271!
Very happy with my progress but now I'm skint until payday at the end of the month!
Hi Roger, I hope you are well. Just checking in to make sure.
Hope to see another Pace Production soon.
Be safe,
Rick Mansberger
Michigan, USA
Rick...I'm back...only the good die young...thanks ...much appreciated!
Hi Roger,
One thing you might want to add is that since our ears never stop growing one must buy new custom plugs every couple of years. There are many shooters that never do. You can easily spot them at my club, they are the ones yelling at everyone ;) thank you for all the videos and please do more.
Quinn...I love it...is that why my ears are so big?
Another awesome video. Thanks!
Plastic Apple...love the name...good on you!
Hello Roger, I found your videos before our State Shoot in Michigan last weekend. I have been in Trap Shooting for just one year at a limited exposure. My mentor is Art “Pop” Turner from Guns and Bows in Morrice, MI. Pop is an excellent teacher and my first time out ever with a shotgun I ran 15 straight. Pop wanted to know if I had ever done this before, I had not. So I had 200 registered targets last year and I had not shot since May 15th 2017. Prior to the State Shoot last weekend, Pop got me out at his club and I had 100 targets, 18, 19,21, 22. Not bad but rusty, so off we went to the State Shoot. My first day was not that great, Pop offered some schooling after the day was done. The next day I wanted to do better, I found your videos and you echoed Pops teachings. It all must have sunk in, on the second 25 I really wanted to buckle down and thought wouldn’t it be great if I could go clean on Pop’s squad. I got to the 5th station still clean, one shot at a time, repeated one shot at a time, Pop always says 24 is easy, the 25th is a bit harder. I kept it together and busted the 25th clean. I was very excited and I cannot wait to they shoot my hat next week at the club. Thank you for your videos, they are very logical and helpful. And thank you to my Pop, who was surprised as my squad and said, “I didn’t think you were good enough yet to bust 25 clean”. Typical Pop, that’s why I love him.
Rick Mansberger
Student of Art Turner
Rick...good on you mate...enjoy reading your comments
Fantastic video...
Most people defeat themselves in their mind... I have witnessed this thousands of times on the Trap course. In Canada where I shoot ATA trap and doubles trap people psych themselves out and I have been victim of this too. You have to practice both physically with muscle memory and mentally for consistency. I have shot dozens of perfect rounds in both single and double trap and those only happen when your muscle memory and your mind are working in sync. The other thing I've noticed is that people are scared to push themselves into proper thought train. You have to step outside your comfort zone in order to improve. I shoot alot in practice and competition and the people I notice improving push themselves far past what they believe they could do. I have trained several folks who from the point of never holding a shotgun to the point of consistently having rounds of 22 or better. Some people just have a natural knack for it and some people that takes a lot of work. The other thing I've noticed is people are afraid to dish out the proper amount of money for Quality firearms designed for the clay sport they choose to participate in and they skimp and this ends up costing them because they have a tendency to choose one firearm or another and then blame it on the firearm instead of getting proper advice and buying quality from the beginning and learning with that firearm. People underestimate just about everything about the clay Sports.
Tim...thank you for taking the time to post a very thorough comment on the clay sports...good on you!
You are welcome Roger. Keep up the excellent work on RUclips!
Gun mount suggestion... stand in front of the mirror and practice mounting the gun do this dozens of times a day for three days of the week. This will help you and show you your faults...guaranteed improvement!
Howdy Roger! Well yesterday I did something I didn't anticipate... I shot a 50 straight in doubles. That's good in all but I wasn't anticipating it. As a matter of fact I wasn't even feeling up to being on the Trap course yesterday. Funny thing about the Trap Sports is one day you can be all hyped up feeling good ready to participate to your best ability and shoot craps scores either in ATA events or practice rounds. And other days you can be feeling less than perfect and do amazing. Still baffles me why that is but my theory is repetition thought pattern and muscle memory account for success on those days when you may not feel like being there. But true devotees to the clay Sports go even when they don't feel like it.
Tim...very true...and good shooting!
Nice Roger, I've watched all your vids.... It would be nice to see a video of you actually shooting..
Bruce...I would like to do one...we'll see...!
Never understood Length of pull & the 2 inch rule between your knuckle of your hand & the tip of your nose. I've seen a gold medalist Alex Rennert, he mounts his face very close to the barrels. Can you please do a video Roger about length of pull. Thanks so much. Best wishes
Philip...will try...stay well and happy shooting!!!
Haven't heard anything from you for a while. I hope all is well and that you'll have a new video soon. Take care
Always good to hear from you ...yes I'm putting up a new vid in the next few days!
Awesome, looking forward to it!
Watched again, thanks!
Ed...good on you and thanks!
Hey roger, which barrel do you use when you shoot trap,. Top or bottom? Thank you for your time and the knowledge.
Chad...bottom barrel...and when i miss i pray the top one works!
I'm here in America and shoot trap. One question. Both eyes open or one? I prefer one open as I just cannot shoot with both open no matter how much I practice it. What are your thoughts?
If you are shooting well with one eye ...then stick with it but if you are not happy with your scores then try both eyes open...it will be strange at first but it could improve scores...stay well!
Hello Roger missing your sessions what’s up too cold out there in the auzzi winter
Edward...putting a new one up in the next few days...good to hear from you!
So where are you? Miss your talks.
Ed...I'm back...thanks!
Beretta so5 suits u best
And it's a nice gun!!!
What are we talking about here Olympic trap ,ball trap or down the line ?..
Gerald...down the line!