Pretty sure what they said right after that was 'don't FAIL to hold your handlebars the way you see pros do sometimes because that can be dangerous on normal people roads'. Then they went on to discuss how to HOLD your handlebars the way pros do when they aren't draping their arms everywhere else.
Just want to say thanks to Conor - I just resumed road cycling after a 35 year break from anything with drop bars. Getting on the drops after that much time off felt completely foreign to me and thus I wasn’t using them. Conor’s advice of “just use them for 5 minutes at a time” was all I needed. Headed out for an evening ride, 5 minutes on the drops later, I regained my confidence and I’m fine now. I realize it may sound silly, but 35 years is a long time. I’m grateful.
Commuter riding on drops more or less daily for 45 years now, and never thought I needed instruction on how to hold my bars! But I enjoyed it anyway, and the outtake! 🙂 More of those, please.
I appreciate you explaining the differences between riding as a pro on closed roads and someone like me riding on open roads. Very helpful to keep in mind and focus on safety.
I really like Conor's videos and his presenting style - the right balance of fun and good quality information without too many repetitive cliche's - great stuff and always helpful - thank you GCN 👍
Thank you for pushing out entertaining videos in spite of everything that's going on. It would have been easy to say "sorry folks, we're shut down too" and close up shop for a month. I, like many others here look forward to seeing a new video here. Thank you for continuing to deliver.
Thanks for that. I have rarely gone onto the drops. I've found it uncomfortable and a bit disconcerting in traffic. But after watching this video, I decided I'd try the bit at a time suggestion and ended up on the drops for most of my 35 mile ride. And it was comfortable.
I thought I'd pass on a bit of good news, in these pandemic times, for the other oldies here. I recently watched an episode of 'The Nature of Things', hosted by 83-year-old David Suzuki, (former Prof. of genetics at UBC), on aging well. He met up with another octogenarian professor in London, UK, to discuss his research. That prof. is a cyclist, and the program featured a group of senior cyclists, (Redhill CC), and the claim was that regular exercisers like them have immune systems as healthy as typical people in their twenties. They were in their sixties, seventies and eighties. Yaaaaaay! It doesn't mean that we older cyclists are immune from death by covid-19, but we have a fighting chance. :-))
@@apismellifera1906 Thanks, I'm gonna try. I just recently read in New Scientist magazine about another researcher who checked the immune systems of a group of (very much) older amateur cyclists and got the same finding.
I just got my very first road bike (been into MTB for 25+ years), and this video was super informative. Love the straight to the point videos with good information.
Just bought my first road bike this afternoon. Until now, it’s been all mountain bikes for me but I want to see how my top speed can improve. The whole handlebar and position issues are crazy to me! This helps.
Nice one Conor! I'm a hoods and drops man.. Really good advice and timely reminders about safety.. not copying the pros.. too much! I used to get over the front wheel on a decent until I nearly carped it at over 80kmh.. I hit a wet patch.. hilarious outtake too mate! 😂😂👊🏻
Loved this tutorial. I think personally for me I have a bit of a fear from changing positions of the handlebars during a ride because my first time ever trying a drop bar I moved from the top to the lower part of the drop bar and I might have put too much weight on it too fast and it turned my wheel down into the ground. I've been afraid to try riding one ever since.
I've owned my gravel bike for a year and a half already. I realized only recently holding onto to the top tips of the hoods is the best for me (not the whole hood). I can pedal the fastest, most aero, and most comfortable at that position!
A couple of physiological considerations that should help if you are having comfort issues - especially numbness in your hands: 1) make sure your wrist angle is as close to neutral (straight) as possible in all three of the main positions. You may be able to adjust hood position and bar roll to help, but on the tops this will probably take a concerted effort to change your technique. 2) be aware of how much weight you are resting on the bars. Is your core engaged, supporting your upper body weight, or are you resting all that weight on your hands? This can lead to real issues. I finally got rid of numbness in my hands by changing over to padless gloves, because it forced me to stop bearing down so much in order to stay comfortable. The lighter you are on the bars, the better on your body, and the more control you will actually have.
My hands are always "falling asleep" on longer rides. I already do use cycling gloves and I also try to hold the weight with my back and not lean with my full body on the handlebars. And no, I dont have capal syndrom.. I dont know what to do anymore, to be honest... it sometimes takes about 4 days until i have full strenght back in my fingers. (especially pinky and ringfinger)
That's awful. Some people swear carbon handlebars will alleviate this-stiff but forgiving through road chatter. It's possible they're just trying to justify another parts purchase-I'd look into it.
Something that worked for me was keeping my wrists as straight as possible. Bending your wrists and putting even a little bit of pressure for a prolonged period of time can pinch some nerves. So, keep your hands in line with your forearms. Combine this with keeping the core engaged and potentially losing a bit of upper body weight could be the fix for you. If all else fails, try getting a bike fit (I’d recommend this no matter what). Hope this all helps!
Got an update that helped me A LOT!!! Saddle was to far in the front^^ Pushed it back just 3 cm. Had a 110k today - no numbness anymore. (Just bak pain, because my muscles are not used to it xD)
Tops in seated, grindy climbs; hoods in speedier/more aggressive seated or standing climbs; hoods on average; drops for the position change of it, or aggressive sprints, or to get out of the wind for an extended period. Ends up being about 85% hoods, 10% drops, 5% tops.
It may be surprise to you but many people *are* in fact not sure how to sit properly and where exactly on the saddle. ruclips.net/video/aZ4ZkA8aSkQ/видео.html
Recently i change my position on saddle, i can say this little change make riding more confortable and allow me to ride during 3h without pain on a**. Before change after 1h it was horrible with the same short and saddle (fizik Arione)
I used to road bike but in the last 15 years I have been exclusively mountain biking and just bought a new road bike to get back into it. I was really surprised how light and twitchy the handling is comparatively the first time I got out on the road bike. Especially on the tops. It took a few minutes to get used to it.
I try to minimize weight on wrists (avoiding soreness and potential arthritis from grinding) by activating core and legs more, lessening pressure of forward lean.
I live in the mountains in Andorra so experience with descending, and unfortunately many of us with experience coming off while descending. So the number one tip especially for those when on holiday in the Alps or Dolomiti not used to long descents, while descending please: "Drops not Tops"
what ever happened to gloves? lycra backed, chamois shock absorption, and road sand/glass shedding either in a fall or when cleaning a tire when in motion.
Came here to find this. Always wear gloves for the extra padding, soak up the sweat, keep my bar tape nice etc. But most importantly, if in the worst case there is a crash - hands are protected!
I’m 11 years old and I have a 50 mile race coming up on august 7 My dad is getting me a road bike and I have been looking all over the internet so when I get the road bike. I feel nice and good.
I put my hands in front of my eyes when desending and when watching the new gcn Videos. Dudes, we are all on lock down. Make appropiate Videos and save these ones for later!!! #stayhomestaysafe p.s. put your thumbs behind the bars, do as you say and not like you show!
I’ll also say two positions were missing: 1) hands on top of hoods, pinky under lever, arms parallel to ground; 2) forearms on tops, “invisible aero.” 1) is actually my preferred position at all times, even climbing out of the saddle!
So how do you reach the bars when you have your hands on the straight section of the top bars, or even the drops? Your fingers seemed quite far away from the brakes on the drops. That's why I like my MTB bars. I can always wrap my fingers around the grips and still reach the brakes. Also what stops your hands sliding up those 45 degree slopey bits?
On my 50 year old bike, I still find the center-pull brakes, with my hands positioned above the Drops, the most comfortable with INSTANT access to the brakes. Quick maneuvers are too difficult, when riding on the Tops. (P.S. I'm an urban rider with the need to perform evasive/emergency maneuvers instantly.)
I used to ride the drop bar during many years ... i’m so used to it since years and I also have a fixed gear for in town and I saw that I have more from if I hold hard the drop bar for climbing hill but I don’t know if i’m doing wrong cuz I don’t do the same on my road bike but hills in town are more higher in degree
I don't even use that kind of bike I use a beach cruiser which surprisingly works very well and I usually can keep up with cyclist on road bikes, So beach cruisers can do it too.
Please please please, l need your opinion. I'm completely beginner, and actually l never had a bike but l want one. Would it be a good idea to have the drop bar for completely beginner or is it better to start with flat bar?
What size bike do you ride? Looks like a pretty tall head tube and makes me hopeful that I might be able to find a frame that fits in Pinarello if I can afford one some day.
@ 1.50 Connor says to tuck in, stay low and get out of the wind in group in group rides ...I'd like to see you do that Connor, when the others behind you are about your saddle height. They could sit up straight behind him and still be out of the wind ! No way he could get out of the wind if he was behind them.
Great video- thank you Isn't the way you said to hold the bars o the climbs the same way that you said not to hold them prior though? Or am I getting my wires crossed? Red bar tape looks cool man.
The epitome of relaxed hands on the bars look no further than Maurizio Fondriest. The guy is poetry in motion and I’m sure he could play a Casio keyboard whilst dropping a wattage bomb.
What's your preferred hand position on the bars?
I like my hands to be on them.
I usually put my hands on the top of the bars
Hands free to stay clean of corona 👐😊
The one don’t pain my osteoarthritised hands.
off the bars
i like to live dangerously
Climbing - Tops and Hoods
Flat - Hoods and occasionally drops.
Descent - Drops
Strong wind - Drops
Most of the time - Hoods
Use drop most of time. It is more aero
@@music-xj8hf bend your arms 90 degrees when on the hoods. That is faster.
What about no handed? 😂
@@music-xj8hf remove the handlebars and hold the fork, it's more aero
I often use the hoods and tops. Rarely on the drops
GCN: How to hold your handlebars like a pro
GCN 30sec later. "Don't try to copy the pros"
Exactly my thoughts.
Liam Bertuzzi comedy genius
He qualified that with "too much"
I was just going to comment the same.
Pretty sure what they said right after that was 'don't FAIL to hold your handlebars the way you see pros do sometimes because that can be dangerous on normal people roads'. Then they went on to discuss how to HOLD your handlebars the way pros do when they aren't draping their arms everywhere else.
Just want to say thanks to Conor - I just resumed road cycling after a 35 year break from anything with drop bars. Getting on the drops after that much time off felt completely foreign to me and thus I wasn’t using them. Conor’s advice of “just use them for 5 minutes at a time” was all I needed. Headed out for an evening ride, 5 minutes on the drops later, I regained my confidence and I’m fine now. I realize it may sound silly, but 35 years is a long time. I’m grateful.
1:10 love Conor's impression of a bull Walrus, 10/10!!
Commuter riding on drops more or less daily for 45 years now, and never thought I needed instruction on how to hold my bars! But I enjoyed it anyway, and the outtake! 🙂 More of those, please.
Glad you enjoyed the video. We're loving sharing our outtakes with you all!
Thanks for a kind reminder about the need to be in control at all times. Certainly may prevent a mishap!
Safety first!
I appreciate you explaining the differences between riding as a pro on closed roads and someone like me riding on open roads. Very helpful to keep in mind and focus on safety.
I really like Conor's videos and his presenting style - the right balance of fun and good quality information without too many repetitive cliche's - great stuff and always helpful - thank you GCN 👍
Thanks for the feedback, we’re glad you’re enjoying Conor’s videos!
Thank you for pushing out entertaining videos in spite of everything that's going on. It would have been easy to say "sorry folks, we're shut down too" and close up shop for a month. I, like many others here look forward to seeing a new video here. Thank you for continuing to deliver.
You guys are the best. And you’re absolutely shortening my learning curve. Cheers!
Conor speaks so well. Great enunciation.
Careful, Hank or Manon may use that frame to steal out of the cookie jar on the top shelf
Thanks for that. I have rarely gone onto the drops. I've found it uncomfortable and a bit disconcerting in traffic. But after watching this video, I decided I'd try the bit at a time suggestion and ended up on the drops for most of my 35 mile ride. And it was comfortable.
I thought I'd pass on a bit of good news, in these pandemic times, for the other oldies here. I recently watched an episode of 'The Nature of Things', hosted by 83-year-old David Suzuki, (former Prof. of genetics at UBC), on aging well. He met up with another octogenarian professor in London, UK, to discuss his research. That prof. is a cyclist, and the program featured a group of senior cyclists, (Redhill CC), and the claim was that regular exercisers like them have immune systems as healthy as typical people in their twenties. They were in their sixties, seventies and eighties. Yaaaaaay! It doesn't mean that we older cyclists are immune from death by covid-19, but we have a fighting chance. :-))
Nice to see and read a comment by another "ancient one" Perhaps it would a good idea for GCN to consider us oldies but goodies in a series of videos.
Hope you stay strong sir
@@apismellifera1906 Thanks, I'm gonna try. I just recently read in New Scientist magazine about another researcher who checked the immune systems of a group of (very much) older amateur cyclists and got the same finding.
That’s one big ass frame
James Cartier Every time I see his bikes I want to say this! Enormous.
Absolute unit
James Cartier what's the advantages? Must be a reason I've heard it's more stable at speed and fast corners
@@mykhhh4994 he's just a tall Irish guy
@@mykhhh4994 Lol get a frame that fits
I just got my very first road bike (been into MTB for 25+ years), and this video was super informative. Love the straight to the point videos with good information.
Just bought my first road bike this afternoon. Until now, it’s been all mountain bikes for me but I want to see how my top speed can improve. The whole handlebar and position issues are crazy to me! This helps.
How is it going for you with road bike
Thank you. I was trying to brake from the drops like an old man (as I am). I didn't know about the hood and braking. Nice to learn something new.
Thank you!! I am still new enough this level of information is great.
Thanks for all the effort the Team has put in this year can’t wait till 2025 keep up the good work Merry Christmas and A Happy New Year to all
Tried holding the bars between thumb and fore finger yesterday and it made a massive difference, so much more comfortable all round!!
Thumb and forefinger is probably the most most important tip ever. Saved me a few times.
Nice one Conor! I'm a hoods and drops man.. Really good advice and timely reminders about safety.. not copying the pros.. too much! I used to get over the front wheel on a decent until I nearly carped it at over 80kmh.. I hit a wet patch.. hilarious outtake too mate! 😂😂👊🏻
Thanks, Rich! Glad you liked the video. Stay safe out there!
Loved this tutorial. I think personally for me I have a bit of a fear from changing positions of the handlebars during a ride because my first time ever trying a drop bar I moved from the top to the lower part of the drop bar and I might have put too much weight on it too fast and it turned my wheel down into the ground. I've been afraid to try riding one ever since.
This guys cycling is on another planet. I can’t tell if he’s quick or not.
i wouldn't like to do taboo referred in video due to your facial expresssion. the effectiveness is magnificent. thank you.
I've owned my gravel bike for a year and a half already. I realized only recently holding onto to the top tips of the hoods is the best for me (not the whole hood). I can pedal the fastest, most aero, and most comfortable at that position!
Missing tips in order to prevent feeling numb, releasing pressure on the nerves inside the palms. I do alternate grippositions.
A couple of physiological considerations that should help if you are having comfort issues - especially numbness in your hands: 1) make sure your wrist angle is as close to neutral (straight) as possible in all three of the main positions. You may be able to adjust hood position and bar roll to help, but on the tops this will probably take a concerted effort to change your technique. 2) be aware of how much weight you are resting on the bars. Is your core engaged, supporting your upper body weight, or are you resting all that weight on your hands? This can lead to real issues. I finally got rid of numbness in my hands by changing over to padless gloves, because it forced me to stop bearing down so much in order to stay comfortable. The lighter you are on the bars, the better on your body, and the more control you will actually have.
Conor is the new Matt Stephens! In a giant formate! :))
I was hit by a Dodge Charger while riding today
that sounds badass
@@jonotajian6678if it wasn’t just a charger maybe it would be.
I know it was 3 years ago but hope you doing good mate👍
Dodge charger is really nice car
@@maksstefan6291 pepperidge farm remembers
My hands are always "falling asleep" on longer rides.
I already do use cycling gloves and I also try to hold the weight with my back and not lean with my full body on the handlebars.
And no, I dont have capal syndrom..
I dont know what to do anymore, to be honest... it sometimes takes about 4 days until i have full strenght back in my fingers. (especially pinky and ringfinger)
That's awful. Some people swear carbon handlebars will alleviate this-stiff but forgiving through road chatter. It's possible they're just trying to justify another parts purchase-I'd look into it.
Something that worked for me was keeping my wrists as straight as possible. Bending your wrists and putting even a little bit of pressure for a prolonged period of time can pinch some nerves. So, keep your hands in line with your forearms. Combine this with keeping the core engaged and potentially losing a bit of upper body weight could be the fix for you. If all else fails, try getting a bike fit (I’d recommend this no matter what). Hope this all helps!
Got an update that helped me A LOT!!!
Saddle was to far in the front^^ Pushed it back just 3 cm. Had a 110k today - no numbness anymore.
(Just bak pain, because my muscles are not used to it xD)
Saddle too high, reach too far, bar drop too low? All possible. Probably more tension on your neck and shoulders than you realize
Get a proper bike fit. Even if it costs a bit, it will benefit your body a lot.
Wait, I’m supposed to grab them with my hands?? I thought they were for decoration. Thank you GCN!
the Drops and the hoods are the BEST grips and it was common use for roadbikes
Tops in seated, grindy climbs; hoods in speedier/more aggressive seated or standing climbs; hoods on average; drops for the position change of it, or aggressive sprints, or to get out of the wind for an extended period. Ends up being about 85% hoods, 10% drops, 5% tops.
Best looking bar tape job
Just waiting for how to sit on your saddle like a pro...
It may be surprise to you but many people *are* in fact not sure how to sit properly and where exactly on the saddle. ruclips.net/video/aZ4ZkA8aSkQ/видео.html
Followed up with how to get on your bike with part 2 being how you get off.
Recently i change my position on saddle, i can say this little change make riding more confortable and allow me to ride during 3h without pain on a**. Before change after 1h it was horrible with the same short and saddle (fizik Arione)
@@markstone722 they've actually already made that video. Seriously
You spoke too soon mate :D
I used to road bike but in the last 15 years I have been exclusively mountain biking and just bought a new road bike to get back into it. I was really surprised how light and twitchy the handling is comparatively the first time I got out on the road bike. Especially on the tops. It took a few minutes to get used to it.
I try to minimize weight on wrists (avoiding soreness and potential arthritis from grinding) by activating core and legs more, lessening pressure of forward lean.
That's a beautiful Pinarello!
Climbing definitely tops descending in the drops. On the flats I’m on the hoods.
I live in the mountains in Andorra so experience with descending, and unfortunately many of us with experience coming off while descending. So the number one tip especially for those when on holiday in the Alps or Dolomiti not used to long descents, while descending please: "Drops not Tops"
I'd probably ride on the tops while descending
GOOD TO SEE RIM BRAKES!
As a newbie i really feel like crashing everytime i hold the dropbar. Lol.
Same
what ever happened to gloves? lycra backed, chamois shock absorption, and road sand/glass shedding either in a fall or when cleaning a tire when in motion.
Came here to find this. Always wear gloves for the extra padding, soak up the sweat, keep my bar tape nice etc. But most importantly, if in the worst case there is a crash - hands are protected!
Cleaning a tire when in motion, hahaha 😅. Firstly spit in your gloves is my tip, then clean your tire when in motion.
Nice group set
What a nice light video 👌
That head tube is insane
Good to see GCN displaying spacers under the stem! Do not obey fashion at the expense of practicality and comfortable fit !
I’m 11 years old and I have a 50 mile race coming up on august 7
My dad is getting me a road bike and I have been looking all over the internet so when I get the road bike. I feel nice and good.
Great video, cheers!
Where was this filmed? I'm sure I recognise some of those pot-holes.
Castle Combe
Nice video GCN ☝️👍
That's a great looking bike man👍
I put my hands in front of my eyes when desending and when watching the new gcn Videos.
Dudes, we are all on lock down. Make appropiate Videos and save these ones for later!!!
#stayhomestaysafe
p.s. put your thumbs behind the bars, do as you say and not like you show!
You got a cool bike Connor.
Conor's one tall bloke. Just look at the size of his Pinarello Prince
stood beside him at the irish nationals last year....his head was in the clouds couldn't see his face lol
What’s your height?
That headtube!!! What's your bike geo?
Can you please tell me what make/model of handlebar Conor is using? They look perfect - shallow drop - and just what I am looking for
I’ll also say two positions were missing: 1) hands on top of hoods, pinky under lever, arms parallel to ground; 2) forearms on tops, “invisible aero.” 1) is actually my preferred position at all times, even climbing out of the saddle!
Whats your advice for people with small hands
The faces are brilliant 😂😂
Really want to ride! But ughhh quarantine lockdown
Very helpful ty
Thank you
Find your perfect position is the key
Well done.
Have you guys had a ride in mumbai ?
Just bought my 1st toad bike today. Wow, was not expecting to feep that different to a straght bar, anyways I hope I adapt
So how do you reach the bars when you have your hands on the straight section of the top bars, or even the drops? Your fingers seemed quite far away from the brakes on the drops. That's why I like my MTB bars. I can always wrap my fingers around the grips and still reach the brakes. Also what stops your hands sliding up those 45 degree slopey bits?
When past a few mins. i have neckpain in this position. what should I do?
What is the weight of pinarello prince?
On my 50 year old bike, I still find the center-pull brakes, with my hands positioned above the Drops, the most comfortable with INSTANT access to the brakes. Quick maneuvers are too difficult, when riding on the Tops. (P.S. I'm an urban rider with the need to perform evasive/emergency maneuvers instantly.)
what do you recommend to ride on cobblestones?
On the tops :)
What bike is this? Such a long headtube and so high top tube compared to regular Dogmas or any road bike in general?
What about hand positioning when cornering at high speed or in wet conditions?
drop bars, lower centre of gravity will increase traction.
I used to ride the drop bar during many years ... i’m so used to it since years and I also have a fixed gear for in town and I saw that I have more from if I hold hard the drop bar for climbing hill but I don’t know if i’m doing wrong cuz I don’t do the same on my road bike but hills in town are more higher in degree
Where do you put the bell on drop bars? Maybe you can do a video for it ?
I don't even use that kind of bike I use a beach cruiser which surprisingly works very well and I usually can keep up with cyclist on road bikes, So beach cruisers can do it too.
Im new so what is the best stater bike for a new biker
0:47 Thanks for the reminder GCN.
Can you help me choose a good carbon handlebars? Link?
Respect for the camera man
So what kind of tractor do you use for the camera vehicle? 😁
If I'm riding indoors on zwift what bar are better? Flat bars or drop bars since I don't have to worry about aerodynamics?
Please please please, l need your opinion. I'm completely beginner, and actually l never had a bike but l want one. Would it be a good idea to have the drop bar for completely beginner or is it better to start with flat bar?
LOVE the colour of hes bartape.
Can anyone tell me what that is?
♡
Red, sorry couldn’t resist lol
Good idea 👍👌👍...
I'm a beginner, beginning to learn here.
How do you switch from hoods to drops quickly?
I can finally watch this because I bought my first road bike. Trek madone 2.1
Crikey! That's a big frame there hey.
What size bike do you ride? Looks like a pretty tall head tube and makes me hopeful that I might be able to find a frame that fits in Pinarello if I can afford one some day.
Thanks for that I always ride with one hand on the drops and the other on the tops 🤪
@ 1.50 Connor says to tuck in, stay low and get out of the wind in group in group rides ...I'd like to see you do that Connor, when the others behind you are about your saddle height. They could sit up straight behind him and still be out of the wind ! No way he could get out of the wind if he was behind them.
Great video- thank you
Isn't the way you said to hold the bars o the climbs the same way that you said not to hold them prior though? Or am I getting my wires crossed?
Red bar tape looks cool man.
That’s an enormous bike 🚲
Is a Trek Domane AL 2 a good bike to start on road cycling?
The epitome of relaxed hands on the bars look no further than Maurizio Fondriest. The guy is poetry in motion and I’m sure he could play a Casio keyboard whilst dropping a wattage bomb.