Can I win Every Category in Zwift?

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  • Опубликовано: 14 май 2024
  • My Zwift: Jeff NorCal Cycling
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    00:00 Category D
    01:02 Category C
    01:44 Category B
    08:58 Category A
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  • @chrisfoglesong2017
    @chrisfoglesong2017 2 месяца назад +325

    Props to you Jeff for dropping out of the D & C races to not “steal” the win from someone working at their limit in those categories.

    • @Freerider93
      @Freerider93 Месяц назад +37

      Props? He blew up the freaking race! He doesn't get props for doing that crap. He and other cat A racers need to stop using the lower cats for crap like this. We aren't your YT content farm.

    • @eadondrytevernight1765
      @eadondrytevernight1765 Месяц назад +7

      As a cat C rider, I found it interesting to watch the difference in fitness levels.
      When I started zwift, I was cat D but quickly moved to cat C, then struggled to stay with the pack to now being able to keep with the lead pack.
      It was interesting to see the insights on cat B racing, and give me something to aim for.
      Granted it’a not for everyone, but it does highlight how far you can go by just working harder.

    • @drdumbo9124
      @drdumbo9124 Месяц назад +18

      ⁠@@Freerider93 oh jfc people complain about everything. People at this level string these races out all the time and bonk all the time. People lie about weights in those races also and go on to win. Him doing this is no real issue. There’s not hoards of RUclipsrs doing this….. I’m always amazed at the amount of people that literally complain about everything. It’s Zwift it doesn’t matter.

    • @whip113
      @whip113 Месяц назад +2

      @@Freerider93 , calm down Francis, nobody chases in the D and C races because they're mostly weight doping and running at category limits. If they aren't then they can't chase anyhow. So no, he didn't blow up the race, everyone in the race saw him ride off the front early in the race and concluded he was going to get DQ'd for category violations. And if this wasn't a category enforced race, then there would have been 15-20 other A cat racers there to pull him back. Category enforced D and C races are a dance with category limits more than anything else. That's where the strategy lies. Reverse weight doping, sitting in and not pulling, etc. is what the D and C category races are made up of. Signed: Won the last 2 rounds of ZRL C category by literally riding off the front, then got bumped to the B's (intentional). I did it "natty" though, and got clobbered BAD in my B races (dropped in less than 7 minutes on Loop the Loop during Zwift Games) because I didn't have 10kg's to shed overnight or a bunch of untapped watts to cash in.

    • @dansteuer1411
      @dansteuer1411 Месяц назад +2

      @@Freerider93disagree. Its cool to see the differences . I never race to win anyways. I race to beat my prior time

  • @bettyjones8363
    @bettyjones8363 Месяц назад +65

    I am a 65 year old woman and in the D category. I am very happy to just pedal. Last year I did 12,000 kms on my bike (indoors and outside). Very happy to pedal.

    • @letolollers3729
      @letolollers3729 Месяц назад +1

      12,000km is incredible, thats more than most cyclists !

  • @gmen1305
    @gmen1305 2 месяца назад +138

    Steamroller makes any surface (dirt, cobblestone, etc) as fast as a paved road

  • @MijoMontego
    @MijoMontego 2 месяца назад +65

    That was fun. Enjoying the variety to the channel... crit racing to gear testing to now Zwift racing

  • @vsportsguy
    @vsportsguy 2 месяца назад +122

    Jeff is one of best racers in CA, and it took him 3 tries to win a B race. Zwift has managed to make an exceptional bike racer look ordinary.

    • @toefur66K
      @toefur66K 2 месяца назад +7

      He’s not the same rider on a trainer. 800W sprint!

    • @astigmatic8978
      @astigmatic8978 2 месяца назад +43

      @@toefur66KNot to mention Jeff's fantastic bike handling and decision making skills during crits don't matter nearly as much in Zwift races

    • @damu6678
      @damu6678 2 месяца назад +36

      Did you not watch? They cheated. He was beat by someone doing 5 w/kg that claimed they weighed 99 lbs. Unlikely

    • @tsops22
      @tsops22 2 месяца назад +7

      @@damu6678so what? Whoever cheats only hurts themselves, no one else. It’s a game; when they go IRL, they will be burned to the ground…and ZwiftPower is getting smarter now; not easy to cheat as it was in the past

    • @Henuman
      @Henuman 2 месяца назад +18

      ​@@tsops22Cheating ruins race dynamics so it affects others.

  • @_Doodle-bob
    @_Doodle-bob 2 месяца назад +67

    100% do more of these. I would love to see you race in some elite verified fields like Zwift Grand Prix this fall.

    • @danjo1967
      @danjo1967 Месяц назад +1

      he wouldnt hang in an elite zwift race - not against guy who know HOW to race zwift, and are stronger than him.

  • @skylerschwendeman
    @skylerschwendeman 2 месяца назад +53

    Love to see Jeff trying new stuff out for the channel! Of course I hope we still get lots of race review footage, but fun to see NorCal branching out a bit.

  • @edlaverack
    @edlaverack 2 месяца назад +14

    A ton of crossover to be had Zwift racing and real world. It’s why I keep coming back to it and live streaming, maybe something for the future Jeff😊

  • @ZwiftInsider
    @ZwiftInsider Месяц назад +14

    Fun to see some Zwift content from you, Jeff. Greetings from a fan and fellow NorCal rider here at Zwift Insider HQ!

  • @notpogi
    @notpogi 2 месяца назад +19

    Nice to see you trying this Jeff, would like to see you get the w in an A cat race - definitely give it another go 👍🏻

  • @gfoz4465
    @gfoz4465 2 месяца назад +14

    Zwift races are harder than any local race near me. It is a great way to keep us all humble.
    I would love to see you set up your Mike's Bikes team and try to compete in a race series!!

    • @_Doodle-bob
      @_Doodle-bob 2 месяца назад +4

      Absolutely, I’m actually surprised they don’t have a virtual team.

  • @alexstancescu8663
    @alexstancescu8663 2 месяца назад +14

    I like you commentating any type of race, so Zwift races will be interesting too!

  • @andymiller54
    @andymiller54 2 месяца назад +20

    This was great! As a newer (6 months or so) zwift racer who watches your channel this was really fun to see you come over to zwift and talk strategy! Please more of this!

  • @mathewemden2068
    @mathewemden2068 2 месяца назад +3

    I love the zwift content. I have been doing a lot of Zwift races (group c). Learning the strategy from you is great!

  • @matthewsferrier
    @matthewsferrier 2 месяца назад +13

    More Zwift please!!

  • @thomasmoore4319
    @thomasmoore4319 2 месяца назад

    Love to see this type of Zwift racing content Jeff-well done!

  • @davidparrott2090
    @davidparrott2090 2 месяца назад +16

    nice efforts, would love to see more of this

  • @cornishcat11
    @cornishcat11 2 месяца назад +6

    a nice change of video . really enjoyed watching , thanks

  • @scottwatson8834
    @scottwatson8834 2 месяца назад

    Love it actually. Enjoying your efforts to interest you and us Jeff.

  • @johnvu8902
    @johnvu8902 2 месяца назад +1

    Seriously love the commentary and learning about the strategies.

  • @jasonholowka6386
    @jasonholowka6386 2 месяца назад +2

    Loved watching the Zwift race commentary!

  • @trust123500
    @trust123500 Месяц назад

    definitely loving it! please make more zwift content!

  • @stylgen
    @stylgen 2 месяца назад +2

    This was really interesting to watch for this channel. A nice change up

  • @willwadden
    @willwadden 2 месяца назад

    Great video Jeff. More of these!

  • @Whim396
    @Whim396 2 месяца назад +12

    Love this content haha, well put together. Not sure if it’s for everyone but I really enjoyed it

  • @thestonebiker5316
    @thestonebiker5316 2 месяца назад

    I love it when you commentate on the crit racing. It’s really good Listening to you commentate on the Zwift racing 🚴🏼keep it up its ace.

  • @markmadeo6227
    @markmadeo6227 2 месяца назад

    awesome Zwift footage, keep it coming!

  • @MrRed0devil
    @MrRed0devil 2 месяца назад +2

    I have used Zwift over the past 2 years, but unfortunately I had a severe stroke last summer but I dream of making a comeback so any Zwift content is greatly appreciated by me.

  • @klcjr1
    @klcjr1 2 месяца назад +1

    I would truly enjoy watching you guys race again. Thanks

  • @MrVizzle
    @MrVizzle 2 месяца назад +253

    Smurfing on zwift now lol

    • @woutervanderdoes5163
      @woutervanderdoes5163 2 месяца назад +11

      Same thought here 😂 seems even worse than me smurfing SC2 as a kid

    • @phezter
      @phezter 2 месяца назад +16

      He abandoned the races in D and C, so he didn't steal a win

    • @drewbuffington
      @drewbuffington 2 месяца назад +7

      Smurfing lmao… that’s so funny. Tell me you’re a gamer without telling me your a gamer 😂
      Sandbagging is the common term lolol

    • @jellystones72
      @jellystones72 2 месяца назад +1

      Watch the video... he quit those races

    • @MrVizzle
      @MrVizzle 2 месяца назад +2

      @@jellystones72 after showing them who's the boss, smurfing full time 24/7

  • @svenstarson1908
    @svenstarson1908 2 месяца назад +5

    Hands down the best Zwift racing video. You nicely show only the interesting bits, cutting out the hours of treadmill boredom. Feel free to sprinkle in some Zwift races in the future.

  • @rosseverest9543
    @rosseverest9543 Месяц назад

    Great to see you in a zwift race. As from what I’ve seen your very good at crit races irl. And also some tactics from that are coming in to play in game which is why zwift I think is so good for that. It’s seriously hard work even when you’re very fit because there’s so much stiff competition out there. I’d be happy to see more vids sure everyone else will too

  • @derekbroussard
    @derekbroussard 28 дней назад

    This was great. Hope to see more of zwift commentary races here

  • @theupperechelon7634
    @theupperechelon7634 2 месяца назад

    This is great. Especially when it's winter and so many people are riding Zwift races inside too. Keep it coming.

  • @sigfreed11
    @sigfreed11 Месяц назад

    This is the best video in a while! Love the online racing content since that is much more attainable for a lot of us!

  • @alde1759
    @alde1759 2 месяца назад

    Do this again. Way better than any race broadcast. Your commentary is amazing! I love Zwift racing too.

  • @ImGlossy63
    @ImGlossy63 2 месяца назад

    Love to watch Zwift races. Never raced IRL, but do so in Zwift. More Zwift racing please!!

  • @dlvl86
    @dlvl86 2 месяца назад +1

    super cool! you guys should do more of this

  • @DanielWisehart
    @DanielWisehart Месяц назад

    Yes, please do another Zwift race and commentary. Lots of fun.

  • @MrD300
    @MrD300 2 месяца назад +4

    As I too have started doing more Zwift racing I would love to see more of this. I am an older rider and live id a part of the country where not many races happen. So I turned to Zwift Racing to boost my fitness

  • @pouxcs7153
    @pouxcs7153 2 месяца назад +3

    That was really cool video would love to see more Zwift vids

  • @mathias8013
    @mathias8013 2 месяца назад

    Great content, these races are a lot of fun!

  • @julcerin
    @julcerin 2 месяца назад

    🎉🎉 please more videos on Zwift!!! I love racing at Zwift!

  • @Outrunner85
    @Outrunner85 2 месяца назад +1

    Awesome, would love to see more zwift stuff.

  • @alleywatson
    @alleywatson 2 месяца назад +1

    Loved this Jeff

  • @dregm
    @dregm 2 месяца назад +1

    This was great please keep this type of content !

  • @jeremya446
    @jeremya446 2 месяца назад

    Loved the Zwift content!

  • @reactionsok
    @reactionsok Месяц назад

    More please! Fun to see your breakdowns

  • @AndrewBunner
    @AndrewBunner 2 месяца назад

    More Zwift races! Love these

  • @Dan_Stagg
    @Dan_Stagg Месяц назад +1

    Really enjoyed this. Thank you.
    Would be interesting to see how your tactics change when on routes with longer climbs.

  • @neonmorphic
    @neonmorphic Месяц назад

    fun to see you learn the ways of zwift along the way.

  • @andresdiaz3179
    @andresdiaz3179 2 месяца назад

    Been following the channel over a year, this is my first comment. LOVE to see you in my world 😂 «slow is smooth, smooth is fast» apply here too Jeff, its called draft 😂
    Keep it coming 💪

  • @craigpalin685
    @craigpalin685 Месяц назад

    Fantastic!! Really enjoyed this. As a Cat D racer I love all your tips. Thanks

    • @Freerider93
      @Freerider93 Месяц назад

      So you enjoyed him sandbagging through different cats?

  • @KonnoOC
    @KonnoOC 2 месяца назад

    It would be great to see more Zwift races and commentary!!

  • @Divaka270
    @Divaka270 2 месяца назад +5

    win more A race's and Yes we like the commentary and all the tactics explained for Zwift

  • @the_joe_reynolds_foundation
    @the_joe_reynolds_foundation 2 месяца назад +2

    When the B took that flier in the mixed race no A is gonna chase him down. It would be up to the remaining B’s in the pack. Or, you can always wait for Holden to go at 1km out. :)

  • @TimothySlattery
    @TimothySlattery Месяц назад

    More of these please! Love my zwift

  • @jimmynickelz
    @jimmynickelz 2 месяца назад

    Using momentum on those downhill rollers before the sprint in Crit city is a great way to gain an advantage. Nice job.

  • @danielvanderklok8138
    @danielvanderklok8138 2 месяца назад +1

    Would love to see another. I love learning from strategy. I started Zwift this fall and am now racing B. I have a lot to learn in craft as well as more strength to gain. But When I see that I got beat by people with significantly less power I know I should have raced smarter. But I am learning. Out door riding is just around the corner here in Michigan I am excited to see how the winter training affected my abilities.

  • @RoyImahara
    @RoyImahara Месяц назад

    I’m addicted to Zwift racing. Knowing the course and learning some Zwift specific techniques is the key to doing well

  • @kconnnnn
    @kconnnnn Месяц назад

    Keep the zwift content coming!

  • @BVIGrockle
    @BVIGrockle Месяц назад

    just started zwift racing this year. great fun although finding it hard to improve... i will persevere!

  • @JackButlerVideos
    @JackButlerVideos 2 месяца назад

    More zwift! Loved the video!

  • @forest7424
    @forest7424 2 месяца назад +1

    I like the Zwift commentary. While we all do it for IRL racing gains, zwift racing fills the competitive gap midweek!

  • @CyndyRehberg
    @CyndyRehberg 10 дней назад

    Fun video! Would love to see more.

  • @xCELESTIALNEONBLASTx
    @xCELESTIALNEONBLASTx 2 месяца назад

    loved the video lol, definitely attempt another A race and commentate!!

  • @scottheitmanmarinesurvey3557
    @scottheitmanmarinesurvey3557 2 месяца назад +4

    Watch the second stage Zwift Game elite for a master class in zwift racing, and the Polish Gambit winning move

  • @craigsmith5134
    @craigsmith5134 Месяц назад

    Nice man, really puts into perspective your fitness vs somebody like me. Just started zwift a month before winter an made it up to cat b so far. Seen an FTP increase from 230w to 275w in that time. Kudos to you for dropping out of those C and D races. Those guys work hard there, sandbagging is really rampant in zwift.

    • @doomguyzwifting
      @doomguyzwifting Месяц назад +1

      Congrats on your increase, great effort!

  • @dadlife8289
    @dadlife8289 Месяц назад

    I recently started racing Zwift in the D class. Its so much fun and i love trying different strategies. I hope it translates to real racing

  • @phil_d
    @phil_d Месяц назад

    Fantastic content Jeff! I'm a real 'noobie', starting on Zwift in November. I have won a couple of Cat Ds, but the turnout was say, a dozen riders or so. I just don't have the longevity as yet for the big bunch races. However, it is great fun!
    Ride On!

  • @EdwinFGroby
    @EdwinFGroby Месяц назад

    KEEP it COMING!

  • @roadcyclist1
    @roadcyclist1 2 месяца назад +1

    This was fun to see. Also, i recommend getting the controllers for your bike to steer in game. Adds to the realism.

  • @chivacetana
    @chivacetana Месяц назад

    I love it. Being more Zwift!

  • @pieterboshoff2982
    @pieterboshoff2982 Месяц назад

    Inlike the commentary amd the racing. Super nice

  • @Cat4NCCyclist-ui6io
    @Cat4NCCyclist-ui6io 2 месяца назад

    Such a big fan of Will being on the channel

  • @leezavarise
    @leezavarise Месяц назад

    I appreciate you exiting the game in the D and C. Zwift categories. A,B,C,D are power based so the D racers may have a ton of experience they just don't have high w/kg.

  • @digamondvonn
    @digamondvonn 2 месяца назад

    Absolutely! This content was fun 😂

  • @doomguyzwifting
    @doomguyzwifting Месяц назад +1

    It’s funny, I started watching your channel years ago when I was getting into Zwift racing. When you were reviewing other people’s races I was tempted to send something to you but you didn’t do virtual… and now you’re here! 😂
    If you want a challenge, it would be fun to watch you participate in the weekly Tiny Races.. 4 races back to back… look it up.

  • @DoctorWho_1979
    @DoctorWho_1979 2 месяца назад +2

    "Game on man, Game On!" . The addition of dabbling in Zwift racing is brilliant! Looking forward to more in the future!

  • @briananderson3732
    @briananderson3732 2 месяца назад

    Love the Zwift racing!

  • @GrannyG456
    @GrannyG456 2 месяца назад +3

    Great video! Would love to see you race in actual zwift league races… jumping in random races is fun but typically not the highest quality of racers etc…also you should try a race against some A+/ elite athletes…Category A is just the beginning of the pain lol

  • @fougie81
    @fougie81 Месяц назад

    I like these, I do a lot of Zwift races (C). They are good fun for sure!

  • @bapaden
    @bapaden 2 месяца назад

    Love seeing Jeff on Zwift 😂.

  • @nate5253
    @nate5253 2 месяца назад +3

    One of ur best vids yet JEFF, make more like this it was enjoyable

  • @BigTscycling
    @BigTscycling 2 месяца назад

    I love watching these!

  • @StephanieLuff
    @StephanieLuff 2 месяца назад

    This was a lot of fun, definitely something different!

  • @iamtheonenonly250
    @iamtheonenonly250 Месяц назад

    Was going to complain, but I really appreciate that you left the lower races early :)

  • @scottheitmanmarinesurvey3557
    @scottheitmanmarinesurvey3557 2 месяца назад +2

    That C ride was perfect for the steam roller

  • @jamesengelsma3
    @jamesengelsma3 Месяц назад

    Definitely like this content, please do another A race!

  • @bitminerbob6731
    @bitminerbob6731 2 месяца назад +3

    I'm 95kgs and my 15s power is 1245w. I win a lot of B grade zwift races doing around 3w/kg. I mainly race flatish courses. In Zwift the sprint is everything.

    • @Bukoe
      @Bukoe 2 месяца назад +1

      When I started biking strait of 20 years of elite volleyball I had a 1600Watt sprint 210watt FTP . .. Now 8 years of biking mainly social endurance stuff my sprint is 1200ish but FTP is 300-320ish .. I am also 94kg and stay on the Flat stuff when Racing zwift :P ..

    • @doomguyzwifting
      @doomguyzwifting Месяц назад +1

      I’m patiently waiting for a downhill racing series for is bigger cyclists to enjoy 😂

  • @keithcottongim7930
    @keithcottongim7930 2 месяца назад

    We need more!

  • @BobbyChombo
    @BobbyChombo Месяц назад

    Thanks was a fun watch!

  • @connerburton2123
    @connerburton2123 2 месяца назад

    That was great stuff!

  • @duncancycles
    @duncancycles 2 месяца назад

    Zwifting is fun!! Love it

  • @juliojimenezgrez
    @juliojimenezgrez Месяц назад

    Love this video!

  • @IiILenoy
    @IiILenoy 2 месяца назад

    Really nice content!

  • @lincslegend6936
    @lincslegend6936 2 месяца назад

    Man your a beast. Those watts r nuts.

  • @xXSgtJackXx
    @xXSgtJackXx 2 месяца назад +2

    Great video! Love the fact that you didnt want to steal a win from somebody in the category, its a small thing but really shows your character Jeff

  • @brian_simmons_
    @brian_simmons_ Месяц назад

    Its not over till its over Jeff. You gotta win one.

  • @kestralrider313
    @kestralrider313 2 месяца назад +1

    Jeff, you've probably figured out by now that the physics in zwift are not terribly realistic, but I do love zwift because it does have physics that try to replicate actual drafting and bike aerodynmics. I would recommend experimenting starting your sprints much earlier than the entrance of a green sprint segment; you want to be already "wound up" when entering the segment. When doing bunch sprints, try starting middle or further back as you wind up your speed instead of top 5 like a real crit. Since your avatar can physically ride right through riders, when you wind it up earlier, you get a slingshot effect because you're in the draft all the way passing through those other avatars; you're not "in the wind" when you move up through a group, I'm guessing they don't model riders as going around the group in the wind like you would in the real world.