Old vs New Off-Road Review: Which Jeep Wrangler Is The One to Buy?
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The Fast Lane Car I just picked up my 2015 jk 33s same bumper and a 12000 lb winch loving it
You guys forgot about the EcoDiesel option.
100% agree with your comment about waiting for the truck.... i am too....
The Fast Lane Car dxxxsd#*()’tggggjggt ain’t.
cxssms
The best part about the new JL/JLU line is now all the aftermarket parts for the JK line will get cheaper.
Say that louder. The manufacturers haven't heard you yet.
Never was a Jeep fan until I started watching your channel.First ,your team puts out a lot of content,a lot!Second,you all keep your sense of humor and enjoy what you are doing.Third.you are always coming up with interesting tests and comparisons that translate well for consumers.good to see Tommy back too!
As always, wonderful videos. Love the interplay between Roman and Tommy. So natural, not forced and very informative. I must be honest, I am super impressed with the Jeep brand, it does what it says it can do, and more!
This whole video is just awesome. I love that the Land Rover driver credited TFL for his purchase.
Gary Goldberg I saw a review stating get a land rover they leak like crazy, but are super cheap and ready to off road! $2500 found it in the Colorado Spring!
that one was a '97 bought for $2500 so that guy obviously isn't concerned about warranties or shelling out lots of money. it's a toy. nobody drives a new LR off road. it's always the 2nd or 3rd owner or beyond. if something breaks, you can find used and after market parts and do it yourself with older trucks. even a rebuilt engine or tranny is not that much, unless you're flat broke, and then you wouldn't be off-roading tempting fate.
When they said "old" I was expecting a TJ at the newest
same. i have a tj and i don't know what a JLU is only JL, I guess JLU is the unlimited? for TJ we have the LJ nickname...
One of my favorite videos you have posted recently. Keep it up!
Love ur video’s, and really appreciate this one. Tommy my fav is ur 20 second mod break down. Wife and I are both JK owners, mine is heavily modded and wife is now looking at the JL’s....they are both great Jeeps. Think the JL did a great job of evolving the Jeep without compromising what Jeep stands for (is pricey though). Appreciate that you are comparing them off road, and know that is the reason I follow you guys!!! Thx again, keep the video’s coming!!!
Good run, the factory lockers are great, but I love the cloth upholstery in Tommy's JK and so on and so forth,...as long as they're Jeeps, it's the drive that counts, and it looks like fun no matter what.
By the way Roman,...you weren't the only one who 'reacted' when the Land Rover tipped and swayed there,...except I let out with a word that I shouldn't show here.
Great vid as always. Would like to see you guys do a detail video about all the differences between the jk and jl
Great duo. Would definitely like to see more videos with you two. Awesome video you guys!
Great video of father and son wheelin'. Although it's strange to hear Tommy calling his Dad by his first name. But for the sake of the video, I get it. Both of these 2 door Wranglers look good. But the JK looks awesome. I only have a limited slip diff and after seeing this, I have to save up for at least a rear locker and soon.
I call my father by his first name. And I would hate to be called "Dad". Just feel like it's lacking respect.
Sacatolas Moreira This is definitely something I've never heard of. I would never call my Dad by his first name. THAT is a lack of respect. I have 2 sons and if either ever called me by my first name, there's going to be a problem!
Great job gentleman. Tommy's Jk is quite similar to mine. Same color and many of the same type upgrades. Enjoying your channel.
I miss my JK. it was a 2010. No crazy mods on it, but it had 33’s and a couple tops to play with. Total slug on the highway, but it was awesome taking the doors off in the summer. I had too much of a commute to justify it. Can’t wait to pickup a Wrangler in the future ! Great review TFL
Awesome!!! Loved it. Welcome back Tommy!! Such a hard choice but either way you win if you enjoy the ride.
I just bought a 2012 jk two door sport last week and I love it. My only complaint is with the factory soft top. It's a big PITA.
I’d like to see Tommy’s wheels and tires on the new Jeep. They say you can put 35s on it. You guys should test that.
If you're a Mall Crawler you can.
Love yalls videos.
Denver guy here.
Used to work for Boulder County Surveyor.
Roman helping the Rover dudes wheeling is the best part .
Nice video. I was milling around in my head everything you guys talked about. Settled on a '18 JK Recon. Had everything I needed, nothing I didn't. And it was much cheaper with the current discounts than a similar JL. Both awesome rigs though. I look forward to more videos. Here is an idea, if you want. Do a tow test on the JK and JL. How well do those tow up the Ike? I'd love to see that, as many Jeepers tow campers and such.
Great video! taking my jeep tj out on yankee hill today.
Great video! And to do this as a father and son video, is heartwarming.
Personally, I think the JK looks much more rough and tumble. Much more badass. Love the simplicity of the design. JL has too many edges and looks more like an SUV than an offroader.
That being said the JL seems to be a much more capable vehicle from the factory, and much more comfortable and maybe higher quality too. Ill stick to my JK for the sake of character and sentiment, but I have to admit jeep did a pretty damn job continuing the Wrangler name.
Wauto Colorado in no way does it looks like a suv
Jeeps are SUV’s though
Yes exactly
I agree, JLs seem to have more smooth curves
Yeah okay a Rubicon vs a wrangler sport $60,000 worth of factory updates vs his $40,000 of his updates they should have run neck and neck jk Rubicon vs the jL Rubicon
I started out with a 2003 TJ. I drove that as a daily driver till i traded that for a 2010 JK Sport. After driving these for 15 years as a daily driver i decided to change things up. I am doing more travel, but i still wanted some off road capabilities, so i traded in the JK for a 2019 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk. I love the comfort of the new Cherokee and the ride going down the interstate. I do miss my JK but I think the Cherokee will do just fine for me. By the way, I love your videos on the Jeeps and your Diff loc series. Thanks for everything you've done for JEEP.
I'd love an Old vs New for the new ZR2 Colorado vs the S10 ZR2.
Might as well compare a covered wagon to a Lambo then....
loved the bit at the end!
My thoughts? Get a used stock JK Rubicon that's been driven by some pavement princess for a couple of years. You'll pay new JK sport pricing for something way better. There are very few Rubicon drivers out there that wish they got a Sahara or a Sport, but there are tons of Sahara/Sport drivers out there that wish they got a Rubicon. Especially once they hit a real trail.
Dwealdric exactly I bought a 2015 mall crawler 30 000 km 33s on 18s has a Bush bumper and a 12000 lb winch way cheaper than a new one and still like new
If you off-road a used rubi by far better way to go than new.....if ya can find one that isn’t overpriced.
Or buy sport and build it better rubi has half @$$ 44 same tubes and c's as d30 .
I looked at all kinds of Used models...almost bought a JL...then a Sahara...was looking at the 10 year anniversary Rubicon...but felt it was over priced...settled on a 2014 Rubicon with 50k miles on it with a beat to shit wench. I anticipate wrenching time...and look forward to learning it.
@@street_legal_go_kart7356 true, rear air lockers and manual sway bar is pretty much all you'd need for most off road. The electronics in the rubicon's gonna break real fast
Great video and great comparison
Great video guys👍👍👍
Love the new JL in terms of looks and design. It looks modern and yet very classic and recognizable.
Great video! Those lockers sure add a lot of benefits to off roading. Have Tommy put in a lunch box locker in the rear since theyre so cheap. Hope you wring the hell out of that new Rubicon while you have it!
I would never put a lunchbox locker in the rear. That type of locker locks up when torque is applied so you'd be locked at all times unless your foot was off the gas. They work great in the front because they only engage in 4WD,
My JK build is very similar. I just put an aussie locker in and it can run with the rubis all day now
It has a locking dif! Thanks for the help! Going back up in a zr2 Thursday!
brad soyak Oh whoops haha! have fun!
Great video!!
Awesome video guys
I bought a 2021 willys model with the 2.0 turbo and really like it. So far from what I’ve seen they just added the aftermarket accessories into the factory package. The hurricane 4 cylinder is a little beast also. At the end of the day they are jeeps one fancy from start and one with more open ideas that are endless.
My son had a 2019 JL. It spent more time at the Jeep dealer being fixed than it did in his garage. Check engine lights for Electrical & 4 wheel drive problems. After a 12 week stay at the dealers, waiting on parts, or so they said. He sold the Jeep and got a Tundra PU.
I was replacing a 97 TJ. I decided to go with a preowned 2015 JK that was in dealer new condition inside and out. It was the Freedom version with leather seats and Alpine sound system. I wanted a Sahara but the Freedom was close enough to satisfy me.
As far as I am concerned the JK has all the technology I would ever need. The JL has more technology and thus more things that can go wrong or break. I’ve had my JK for a couple of years and I’m totally satisfied with it.
Love your old vs new videos. Would like to see an XJ (old) vs KL (new) off-road comparison 🚙
Love the last bit..nice
I have a '18 JK Willys and my brother has an '18 JL Sport Plus and we love both of them! At the Sport level, they're very similar vehicles, some additional creature comforts and a higher price tag are the big differences. I must say, I love what they've done with the Rubicon JL but $60k for a Jeep is a bit out of my price range! Great video!
Need more Jeep videos! Loved the review and opinions. I have a JLUR with the Mopar 2” lift with 2.5” Fox shocks, 35” K02s with KMC XD832 wheels and absolutely love it.
Love the vid, any pre-emptive opinion on the JL Diesel?
I love Pennsylvania gulch! Taking a motorcycle through there is a fun challenge. The jeeps make it look easy though...
Tommy, did you consider regearing your JK to 4.56 (or even 4.88 since you have manual, 35s and doing actual offroad)? This would be one of the best mods one could do to a JK hands down!
Me too, waiting for the JT. ...hope it'll be over the top cool.
Great vid, so what did the quick jeep prep consist of
True that!! That JK is awesome!! I want one!
Perfect timing! I'm deciding between a 2018 JKU or 2018 JLU this week!
So what did you end up with?
Same here. Which did you get?
Excellent video! I think the references to low gear ratio were referring to the 2ND gear acting like a really low gear (like a 1) because you get a higher gear ratio with the lower gears but I can understand if someone mispeaks and says that a 1st or 2nd gear has a low ratio just because it's easy to slip the tongue but usually 1st and 2nd gears have a high gear ratio
Hey TFL do you think my 01 4Runner 4x4 with a rear diff lock could make it up that?
I love the little StraightPipes reference :)
Another great vid. I love the JL, but have to agree that with the mods Tommy's looks damn nice. Genuinely funny outro, by the way. Haha
Great video. Impressions at the end had me cracking up. You should do Fred from Dirt every day next time.
Have any TFL staff bought themselves a personal JL yet? You guys have been giving great coverage on them. Once I heard of the upcoming JL I waited on buying a JK. Now i'll get the reward for waiting!
Jeep Rubicon truck vs ZR2. Now that would be a great episode. I am however biased since I currently own a ZR2 gasser. I traded in my Jeep for the ZR2. Couldn’t be happier but I loved my Jeep too.
I’ve been an F150 owner for almost a decade and the Rubicon Truck is also extremely tempting. Question is Diesel or the penstar and manual vs auto
Nice vid! Like Tommy I’m still sticking with the JK too. How are you guys liking those Firestone MT2 tires? Will be in need of a new set soon and they are on my short list.
They provide good grip in the rocks and are quiet on the road but no grand in the snow.
Great vid. A question- @15:32- the new Jeep rolling over the camera-there appears to be NO armour underneath...I thought, and you guys said, they come with under carriage plating. Do they or don’t they?
Love this review and the Straight pipes imitation at the end made me laugh!
Good video. Thank you
Do you recommend the manual or automatic transmission on a 2020 wrangler?
great video! But why did you have the axles locked on that easy of surface and while turning?
Hey what's up Tommy. Great video very informative preciate it man. Watch lots of videos but I like the way you present the information.
I wanted to get your quick thoughts on me possibly deciding to get a Jeep Willys Edition number one my step dad his name is Willis Willie whatever but I was hearing some good things about it as far as it kind of being a base model with some of the features that the Rubicon has correct me if I'm wrong once again great video appreciate you have a great day
Great info .... trail looks good.... can’t see too many vehicles being tested on it, a tad narrow.
Great video
I just traded my Jk Wrangler sport six speed for a new JL Wrangler sport 2.0 four cylinder turbo with a 8 speed automatic both are two doors . So far I like the JL a lot and it’s getting better gas mileage.
Your reviews are always outstanding. I realize you have to test what you have access to at the time. To be Totally equal I would think it would be JK Rubicon against JL Rubicon. With that being said again another outstanding review. Keep up the great work.😎❤️🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸❤️
I'm with Roman. The replacement for my JKUR will be a JTR. I also agree with Tommy that the JL sounds way better.
hey TFL crew, can you guys get a ROXOR and do gold mine hill and offroad comparisons with jl, jk, tj, yj etc. I for one will eat that content up! Great work guys! cheers!
Haha... Are you kidding me. Not even the same league. And if anything you'd want to compare it to a CJ7. But I assure you, no contest. Just saying.
Did Tommy say.... Bestop soft top "trektop" NX black Twill ?
I would love the truck but cant afford it. Could you please review the truck conversion options for the JK. Is the mopar kit still available?
Some key differences not mentioned: 1. The Rubicon (JK or JL) comes with a 4:1 Rock Track transfer case, versus a 2.72:1 in all other models. 2. The JL comes with larger brakes (Rotor Dia. & Dual Piston Calipers) which make a significant difference when upgrading to 35s. This becomes a necessary safety upgrade - especially on the heavier unlimited models. 3. The Rubicon comes with a more robust D44 (JK)/ M210 (JL) front axle. When shopping back in 2015, we chose a Rubicon Unlimited over a Sahara due to the heavier duty suspension and 4.10:1 axle ratio - strictly for trailer towing advantages. Then we got into off roading and joined a local Jeep Club (Jeeper's Anonymous); looking back, I would sorely regret not choosing the Rubicon. The Rubicon will go places and climb things a Sport or Sahara simply cannot do because of the locking differentials.
Want to see you guys review a built JL vs a bone stock JL or a ride with a JL, JK, TJ, YJ, and CJ all built to relatively the same level (same size tires, lockers [or no lockers] across the board). A new vs old vs older vs older vs older. Would be rad.
I want 35s on my 2d JK. I want highway usability mostly but capable of doing mild off roading. Would a 2.5inch lift be enough. Which affordable lift kit should I get and wheel/tire combo. Looking for anyones advice (preferably people who have done it)
Looked at a 2015 Lifted Jeep Sahara Unlimited for Sale. Runs well and clean except for the rust underneath the ride. Rust everywhere on the frame. Saw two small areas where rust has eaten through. Is this normal? Should I stay away from the purchase? Thanks
Since they are both soft tops, is there a difference in the amount of wind noise when you're driving down the road (with the tops on)?
Why did you switch the lockers on at the start of the trail? You only need to engage lockers when you approach a hard obstacle then turn them off once traversed.
You guys are the best.
Welcome back Tommy.
You guys need to branch out to some harder trails, Pennsylvania Gulch and Switzerland Trail are way to mild for those vehicles. Try Middle St. Vrain if you want to stay close to Boulder, although it usually does not open until the end of June.
they don't own the rubicon, though. i think subaru blacklisted TFL for years because of a damaged vehicle. that would suck if jeep did the same after returning a dented rubicon.
The last segment of the video was great...pretty funny mimicking the "other" guys.
the straight pipes intro was absolutely hilarious
i wanna buy Tommy's JK now... and i have to admit i have JLUR and love it; but his JK looks BADASS!
The wheels on the JK are sick!
Awesome video! This is exactly what I look for in your videos! I will say that you should have asked that guy in the TJ Rubicon if he wanted to be a part of the video. That would have made a near-flawless Old vs. Young vs. New. Don't worry though; SOMEday, I will be that guy. 14:33 I actually said almost exactly that two years ago on the "Top 10 Essential Off-Roading Tips for Newbies (Part 1 of 2) - DiffLock Ep. 7" video. Ah, found it: "Straight-up: if a Rubicon Hard Rock two door can't get there, then "there" was not meant to be reached." EDIT: Forgot to mention that the appearance by the Discovery was an excellent catch. I can guarantee that there are lots of people out there (including my family) who got their vehicles in part because of you guys and your advice, reviews, and experience.
I like the mechanical side of the jk, but I like the looks of the jl
Good comparison. Have to admit - the two door wrangler looks much better than the four door.
If Tommy wants some cheap traction, look into Detroit TruTracs. I've had them in mine for a couple years and I love them. Also the Centerforce clutch and flywheel is much better than the stock one. Both on and off-road but keep a spare clutch slave cylinder handy. I've heard they can have a shorter life span with that clutch. Mine puked its guts out about a year after the install with about 58,000 miles on the old one.
That ending was epic and hilarious. 🙋🏽♂️😅
Did they make the JL longer or did they just make the back window larger it's hard to tell just by looking at it
Do you guys have any info on 2019 challenger? Photos leaked this week.
Roman, what do you mean by TFL?
Tables Figures and Listings ?
Holy hell you tripped me out with the straight pipes intro hahaha
Chase C. Who?
I always do 35 to 38 psi on Hwy for tire pressure and around 22 off road. What do you recommend for the 35s? Great video thanks God bless.
Train Bennett 22 offroad... That's way too high. Go down to 15.
Def need to plan another trip to Colorado!
Hey tommy! I saw falcon shocks under somebody’s jeep. Is that factory?
I'm not sure if anyone mentioned this yet or not but my JKU Rubicon came with 4.10s, front and rear lockers and electric sway bar disconnects all stock. You don't need to get the JL to get those features.
I love this channel :)
The straight pipes ending 😂
Why is the new MOAB a “higher” grade than the Rubi ? It seems the MOAB, other than the 33” wheels, is a 2016 75th Anniversary Edition (Sahara with Trak-Lok rear diff), no Tru-Lok or sway bar disconnect.