How simon stays totally still from 4.14 to 5.40 with all that comedy going on around him I don't know, just shows how professional his is. Jon and Toni were absolutely brilliant as well. We will miss Jon English R.I.P. Pirate King
I used to watch this version of the play all the time as a child. So many times that I could quote it word for word. I still love the 'General Standley is no orphen' bit
I've been watching this since I was born. My grandparents say it was my most favourite thing to watch! I tried looking at the other versions including the movie version and NONE OF THEM COMPARED TO THIS. It is the best version out there. And Jon English is so funny! I can still quote this word for word and i'm 18 now! Amzing and genious. You can find the DVD in the ABC shop!
I was the same way with the 1983 movie when I was a kid. Kevin Kline's pirate king was my hero when I was 3. I feel this rendition takes a lot of the elements that were in the 1983 movie and parodies them.
To properly get the whole orphan, one who has lost his parents; or often (pronounced orphan) frequently bit you should watch the whole video. ( ive seen this possibly thousands of times i have it on VHS thats how long ive had it for)
Hilarious. I'm playing the Pirate King in local production a couple of months from now. Granted, Kevin Kline was brilliant, but so, too, was the late, great Jon English. What an amazing talent; I'll ensure that he is duly honoured.
to the Ruddigore-extraction haters: G&S would often yank numbers from other shows and throw them into new ones. It fits right in with how they did things back then.
I have no problem with the Ruddigore interpolation in this delightfully freewheeling, loose-limbed interpretation, but the statement that "G&S would often yank numbers from other shows and throw them into new ones" is utter nonsense. The only exception I can think: when Sullivan, having accidentally left his sketches for the entrance of the women's chorus in Pirates back in England -- he was finishing the score in New York, where Pirates had its world premiere -- took "Climbing Over Rocky Mountain," with a few changes to the words, from their first collaboration, Thespis or The Gods Grown Old (the score of which has otherwise not survived). I can't think of any other instance, from Trial by Jury to The Grand Duke, where G&S moved a musical number between works. Indeed, one of the distinctive things about the "Savoy operas" is that each score has a distinctive flavor and sound, giving each one a special character. ADDITIONAL NOTE: The only G&S score that underwent significant change in a revival was The Sorcerer, where they replaced the original ending of Act I and opening chorus of Act II with newly written material, with an eye toward plot continuity and saving money on scenery (the original required 2 sets, the revised version only one).
Gilbert would have had a fit about all the schtick - but it is really funny! I agree with Lady Evelyn the "General Stanley is no orphen" bit is a riot. Isn't it interesting that the Papp "Pirates" imported the "Matter" trio from "Ruddigore" and this production important "Duty Duty" from "Ruddigore" and with no text change! Not sure it worked dramatically, but it is a great trio and they do it well. I love Simon Gallaher as Frederick - Bravo!
I think Gilbert would have loved it. Sullivan on the other hand, who all his life wanted Gilbert to write a serious opera. Is probably rolling in his grave...or even leaning against the set back of hand to forehead 😃😂
@everybodysdeaddave spot on! man i wish i could see an esgee production of ruddigore; it's a madly funny operetta to begin with, and with this cast, i think i'd fall off the couch laughing XD
This is because it's similar to the Joseph Papp version of Pirates...only in that one, they sang the 'Matter' patter song which is also from Ruddigore. I like that they used Duty, Duty though. Nice change!
I also love King: "our revenge shall be swift and-" Frederic: "kind? Merciful?" King: "no. Our revenge shall be swift and....... Abominable" Frederic: "oh, well done!!"
That song is 'You understand?' from Ruddigore. Pretty heavily altered, of course. The Joseph Papp version (which this is based on, I believe) featured a less-altered 'My eyes are fully open' instead, also from Ruddigore.
I think you can buy it on amazon or EZYDVD if you live in Oz go to the ABC shop they'll have this and the MIKADO and HMS PINAFORE that these guy also did.
From what I understand it's not unusual to insert the song here as a way of replacing (in my opinion) the toughest song in Pirates of Penzance "It really doesn't matter". A song the really could be taken out entirely. Thanks for pointing out that it's from another G&S operetta though, I didn't know that.
Great! It's from Ruddigore, which came much later in G&S's career, and shows them at their peak. You should check out the entire show....it's all good.
Jon English says: "Frederic speak out! I charge you with by the sense of conscientiousness to which we have never yet appealed in vain!" Had to listen a few times there, lol. If you look at the bottom of the screen after he says that, some of the orchestra members are holding up cards with numbers on them (scoring him in a way) and the audience thought it was hilarious. :) Hope that helped!
"well it's better than being an oooorphaan.." OMG HILARIOUS!!! i died laughing at that part! i was like rolling on the ground laughing! this really is an amazing musical! it has now become my favorite! XD i recomennd it for EVERYONE!! :D
4:32 this whole incident of Jon cracking Toni up holds a special place in my heart because my own mother played Princess Fred in Once Upon A Mattress and when the Queen was getting her to the bed she fluffed the lady’s boobs and laid on them, causing my mom’s co-star to laugh, and since she was a larger woman with big boobs my mom’s head bounced, causing HER to laugh and by that time the play had stopped because everyone was laughing that hard, it had stopped for nearly an HOUR 😂
This song is not from the Pirates of Penzance. It's a song from Ruddigore which they've inserted into the Pirates story. Cleverly done, but a rather startling change!
The Broadway version of Pirates, which became the movie version with Linda Ronstadt, included the Matter, matter, matter trio. It is hard to sing when done extremely fast and all in one breath as the Broadway performers did. But it's just a show- off piece stuck in there, and required word changes to make it fit.
"Duty Duty" is from Ruddigore? Ah ok. As I understand; "My Eyes Are Fully Open" is also from Ruddigore and is some productions of Pirates (the 1982 film most notably). Is "Duty Duty" also often in some productions of Pirates???
i think he says: "just a bit bogged down in the plot there, so i just thought i'd throw in a bit of movement, "AGAIN!" what? oh i couldn't possibly." lol, hes australian so if you're not from there, im not but i was determined to understand lol. :-)
He says "I just ahh, it's a bit sorta bogged down with clot there so, sorta colour and movement you know, it's just a bit of fun". I guess he just felt like livening up his moves a little. The audience says " Do it again".
They're basically copying what the Joseph Papp version did in the early 80's only instead of putting 'It Really Doesn't Matter' they put 'You Understand, I think I Do' in here in place of it. :)
This brought back so many memories.
Cause your co-stars to laugh in rehearsal. you're good. Cause them to laugh in a live performance, you're a genius.
Oh yeah, gotta love Ruth though
How simon stays totally still from 4.14 to 5.40 with all that comedy going on around him I don't know, just shows how professional his is. Jon and Toni were absolutely brilliant as well. We will miss Jon English R.I.P. Pirate King
I used to watch this version of the play all the time as a child. So many times that I could quote it word for word.
I still love the 'General Standley is no orphen' bit
This is my FAVOURITE song from my FAVOURITE production of PoP!!! JON ENGLISH IS A LEGEND
I've been watching this since I was born. My grandparents say it was my most favourite thing to watch!
I tried looking at the other versions including the movie version and NONE OF THEM COMPARED TO THIS. It is the best version out there. And Jon English is so funny!
I can still quote this word for word and i'm 18 now!
Amzing and genious.
You can find the DVD in the ABC shop!
I was the same way with the 1983 movie when I was a kid. Kevin Kline's pirate king was my hero when I was 3. I feel this rendition takes a lot of the elements that were in the 1983 movie and parodies them.
I love his dramatic back-of-hand to forehead pose. It's one I have used on many, many occasions, yet very few understand the reference.
best Pirate King i have ever seen!!!
OMG, this is the best thing I've seen all day :)
This is terrific. A great production - thanks for posting it and please post as much more as possible!
You know you're good when you manage to break your co-actors.
LOL, "He's on medication." Genius!
Yep, it's available on Amazon. :)
Whenever Laurence starts talking in Naomi Novik's Temeraire books, this song gets stuck in my head.
To properly get the whole orphan, one who has lost his parents; or often (pronounced orphan) frequently bit you should watch the whole video. ( ive seen this possibly thousands of times i have it on VHS thats how long ive had it for)
OMG THATS HILARIOUS!!!!! XD the best pirate king ever!!!!!
The pirate King is so funny, I can not laughing!
Hilarious. I'm playing the Pirate King in local production a couple of months from now. Granted, Kevin Kline was brilliant, but so, too, was the late, great Jon English. What an amazing talent; I'll ensure that he is duly honoured.
to the Ruddigore-extraction haters: G&S would often yank numbers from other shows and throw them into new ones. It fits right in with how they did things back then.
I have no problem with the Ruddigore interpolation in this delightfully freewheeling, loose-limbed interpretation, but the statement that "G&S would often yank numbers from other shows and throw them into new ones" is utter nonsense. The only exception I can think: when Sullivan, having accidentally left his sketches for the entrance of the women's chorus in Pirates back in England -- he was finishing the score in New York, where Pirates had its world premiere -- took "Climbing Over Rocky Mountain," with a few changes to the words, from their first collaboration, Thespis or The Gods Grown Old (the score of which has otherwise not survived). I can't think of any other instance, from Trial by Jury to The Grand Duke, where G&S moved a musical number between works. Indeed, one of the distinctive things about the "Savoy operas" is that each score has a distinctive flavor and sound, giving each one a special character. ADDITIONAL NOTE: The only G&S score that underwent significant change in a revival was The Sorcerer, where they replaced the original ending of Act I and opening chorus of Act II with newly written material, with an eye toward plot continuity and saving money on scenery (the original required 2 sets, the revised version only one).
Gilbert would have had a fit about all the schtick - but it is really funny! I agree with Lady Evelyn the "General Stanley is no orphen" bit is a riot. Isn't it interesting that the Papp "Pirates" imported the "Matter" trio from "Ruddigore" and this production important "Duty Duty" from "Ruddigore" and with no text change! Not sure it worked dramatically, but it is a great trio and they do it well. I love Simon Gallaher as Frederick - Bravo!
I think Gilbert would have loved it. Sullivan on the other hand, who all his life wanted Gilbert to write a serious opera. Is probably rolling in his grave...or even leaning against the set back of hand to forehead 😃😂
@everybodysdeaddave spot on! man i wish i could see an esgee production of ruddigore; it's a madly funny operetta to begin with, and with this cast, i think i'd fall off the couch laughing XD
This is because it's similar to the Joseph Papp version of Pirates...only in that one, they sang the 'Matter' patter song which is also from Ruddigore. I like that they used Duty, Duty though. Nice change!
I also love
King: "our revenge shall be swift and-"
Frederic: "kind? Merciful?"
King: "no. Our revenge shall be swift and....... Abominable"
Frederic: "oh, well done!!"
Is there a DVD of this production? It is fabulous! Great humour!
That song is 'You understand?' from Ruddigore. Pretty heavily altered, of course.
The Joseph Papp version (which this is based on, I believe) featured a less-altered 'My eyes are fully open' instead, also from Ruddigore.
I wonder how much of what Jon did was spontaneous and how much was blocked.
Yes! Thank you, Lissical!
Love the way Simon says I did it at 33 seconds in, it's so cute. 😍😘
Ive never noticed that before!!!! (And ive watched this MANY times)
So have I Brenton, I love it!!! Mind you I love anything with Simon Gallagher in it. Jon & Toni are really good as well 🤗🤗
it’s Jon saying it
Go get a CD of Ruddigore, and you'll have both songs, and a bunch of other great ones.
Is that Simon saying "I did it!" at around 3:33 ? Maybe he kept stuffing up the dance in rehearsal? XDD He sounds so proud of himself. Sweetness.
Yes, Simon said I did it.😃
it’s Jon
I think you can buy it on amazon or EZYDVD if you live in Oz go to the ABC shop they'll have this and the MIKADO and HMS PINAFORE that these guy also did.
LOL, that was too funny!
From what I understand it's not unusual to insert the song here as a way of replacing (in my opinion) the toughest song in Pirates of Penzance "It really doesn't matter". A song the really could be taken out entirely. Thanks for pointing out that it's from another G&S operetta though, I didn't know that.
Great! It's from Ruddigore, which came much later in G&S's career, and shows them at their peak. You should check out the entire show....it's all good.
4:28-5:01 Ruth just can't stop laughing...
ANYBODY WHO WANTS THE DVD its availiable on amazon uk and amazon worldwide buy it you will have loads of laughs goes well with a case of fosters gold
"It's him!"
He's on medication....
Lol
When do they say that?
@@joshuaplotkin88261.36, after they walk to the right of the video, just before they walk to the front of the stage
Indeed, actors are actually instructed to "corpse" (lose it) sometimes by the director in order to emphasise the humour of a particular line.
you think i could find anywhere to get this? cause not. Amazing performance still
Jon English says: "Frederic speak out! I charge you with by the sense of conscientiousness to which we have never yet appealed in vain!" Had to listen a few times there, lol.
If you look at the bottom of the screen after he says that, some of the orchestra members are holding up cards with numbers on them (scoring him in a way) and the audience thought it was hilarious. :) Hope that helped!
The second 'orphan' is the Victorian pronunciation of 'often'.
they're holding up "10"...like scores.
"well it's better than being an oooorphaan.." OMG HILARIOUS!!! i died laughing at that part! i was like rolling on the ground laughing!
this really is an amazing musical! it has now become my favorite! XD
i recomennd it for EVERYONE!! :D
people tend to put one or the other right around this point in the play :D there's kind of a long gap without a catchy G&S song ;)
Me too!
4:32 this whole incident of Jon cracking Toni up holds a special place in my heart because my own mother played Princess Fred in Once Upon A Mattress and when the Queen was getting her to the bed she fluffed the lady’s boobs and laid on them, causing my mom’s co-star to laugh, and since she was a larger woman with big boobs my mom’s head bounced, causing HER to laugh and by that time the play had stopped because everyone was laughing that hard, it had stopped for nearly an HOUR 😂
A lot of it has to do with the cast. I love Jon English, the Purple Pants'd Pirate Captain is definately the best out there.
@vonnycav YAY!!! I was looking around to see if I could find it! I had looked in JB but couldn't find it!
Either it's just me, or the "Duty, Duty" song and its placement work far better than the "It really doesn't matter" song and its placement.
They did the same in the movie version, but a different song from Ruddigore (the "it really doesn't matter" song)
This song is not from the Pirates of Penzance. It's a song from Ruddigore which they've inserted into the Pirates story. Cleverly done, but a rather startling change!
i mean, usually its the patter trio from ruddigore
@ProdigyStepper I happens a bt further in the play, I believe not long after this bit
I was in another production of Pirates and no memory of Duty, Duty being the show??
The song comes from ruddigore, G&S used to mix and match their songs. Essgee do the same, with fantastic results
The Broadway version of Pirates, which became the movie version with Linda Ronstadt, included the Matter, matter, matter trio. It is hard to sing when done extremely fast and all in one breath as the Broadway performers did. But it's just a show- off piece stuck in there, and required word changes to make it fit.
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"It Really Doesn't Matter" isn't originally from Pirates either, that's from Ruddigore too.
IN THIS SHOW THEY DON'T JUST BREAK THE FOURTH WALL
THEY FUCKING SMASH IT.
They sure do!
And the audience loved it. So do I.😁
@pablohthegreat "Speak out, I charge you by that sense of conscientiousness to which we have never yet appealed in vain!"
"Duty Duty" is from Ruddigore? Ah ok. As I understand; "My Eyes Are Fully Open" is also from Ruddigore and is some productions of Pirates (the 1982 film most notably). Is "Duty Duty" also often in some productions of Pirates???
I don't know why people have to laugh so hard to hear
this dialoge before the next number!
4:23 I think that was an ad-lib!
i think he says: "just a bit bogged down in the plot there, so i just thought i'd throw in a bit of movement, "AGAIN!" what? oh i couldn't possibly."
lol, hes australian so if you're not from there, im not but i was determined to understand lol. :-)
There is an "outtake" here. Jon faints and Toni can't keep a straight face. Nor can she stop cracking up!
This is a wonderful song, but it's from Ruddigore, not Pirates. It's a rather clever insertion of a song from one G&S operetta into another.
6:06 Ouch!
@LadyEvelynL when is that?
this is an Australian production, with Australian actors
He says "I just ahh, it's a bit sorta bogged down with clot there so, sorta colour and movement you know, it's just a bit of fun".
I guess he just felt like livening up his moves a little.
The audience says " Do it again".
Recmonty I thought it was “plot” not “clot”.
6:46 LOL!
2:36 what did he say?
It IS!? Boy do I have egg on my face!
@Takaouto Oops, I meant 0:33 XDD Sorry
I don't get what is happening from 2:30-3:14... can anyone explain please??? I want to know why they're laughing and I can't understand Jon English!
Really good stuff when when will producers and directors understand that less is more. Stop padding G&S. Please just do Ruddigore if you must!
That must of hurt
Was this on the DVD?
The pirate king misheard "orphan" as "often".
I TREASURE O:30-0:34!
They're basically copying what the Joseph Papp version did in the early 80's only instead of putting 'It Really Doesn't Matter' they put 'You Understand, I think I Do' in here in place of it. :)
Or I mean 6:47 ?
sorry! i meant to like your comment not dislike it and my comps having a brain fart and wont let me change it!
she lost it at 4:28
damn this is funny
Clearly you've never seen a college production ;)
Oh yeah...and after that I can't really hear what he's saying either, but he's basically bragging about how fast he spoke, lol.
bogged down with Plot :) not clot
yeah its funny but...their improv got really carried away to the point it got a bit unproffessional.
Did anybody else think they milked it a little too much? It got pretty tedious and took too long. The songs were good though
Nope. This was the highlight of the show, in my opinion. Three great actors playing off each other.
Not as fun a song as Paradox
Americans just ruin Gilbert & Sullivan!
The user named 'ser132' meant to reply to you that: "this is an Australian production, with Australian actors"