DPReview TV: Fujifilm 16-80mm F4 Hands-on Quick Review

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  • Опубликовано: 15 июл 2024
  • The Fujifilm XF 16-80mm F4 R OIS WR is a versatile, everyday lens for X-mount cameras. We show you how it compares for image quality, and Jordan tells us why he thinks its a great lens for shooting video.
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  • @theologdanidis5961
    @theologdanidis5961 4 года назад +103

    How about a comparison with the 16-55 f2.8 ;;;

  • @jeremywenrich
    @jeremywenrich 4 года назад +12

    I really appreciate your review and confirmation that I made the right choice by purchasing this lens in my X-T3 kit. I shoot a lot of stills and video on multi-day backpacking trips. While I prefer the weight and volume savings of a prime, I simply cannot sacrifice image stabilization. The 16-80mm, with its weather resistance, seemed an excellent hiking companion-and still does.

  • @andrewharrison5628
    @andrewharrison5628 4 года назад +24

    Hey DP team!! IS actually can be turned off, but it has to be performed on-camera.
    IS-mode is hidden in the menu system, but I have the AF-L button programmed as a shortcut for IS-mode. Basically means the IS modes are one button click away, continuous-IS, shooting only-IS, easily toggled without taking your eye off the viewfinder.
    Ps I am an X-T3 user.

  • @overhang88
    @overhang88 4 года назад +5

    loving these Quick Reviews

  • @MichaelMoore-bx6st
    @MichaelMoore-bx6st 2 года назад +22

    This might be the best travel zoom Fuji has. The OIS works great for low light slow shutter shots of still subjects. Build quality feels great. Very fast and silent AF. No complaints here.

  • @BenjaminKanarek
    @BenjaminKanarek 3 года назад +5

    Got this lens a month ago and used it for a whole Haute Couture shoot and it was outstanding.

  • @came-ray
    @came-ray 9 месяцев назад

    Watching just after I bought used one, this is the best review which makes me relieved.

  • @BAdventures
    @BAdventures 4 года назад +1

    I like Jordan's video test segments. Good detailed review 👍

  • @bh9262
    @bh9262 4 года назад +1

    Very helpful, and honest review. Thank you..

  • @DanielNienhuis
    @DanielNienhuis 4 года назад +92

    I want a big coffee table book of pictures of Jordan crying.

    • @victorshikhman
      @victorshikhman 4 года назад

      ​@@niccollsvideo Some great new APS-C walkaround/travel/adventure lenses from Fuji and Sony. Will they force Canon to finally update its aging EF-S 17-55 f/2.8? Also, Chris, get in the holiday spirit and finally make Jordan a sandwich in the next video.

    • @EDHBlvd
      @EDHBlvd 4 года назад

      Chris Niccolls Merry Christmas Chris!

    • @venom5809
      @venom5809 4 года назад

      A life sized poster or painting of Jordan curled up in a ball on the floor hanging in your house would be one hell of a conversation starter. LOL

    • @lim2001burger
      @lim2001burger 4 года назад +1

      Or a calendar!

    • @MrAyybee2cold
      @MrAyybee2cold 4 года назад

      Victor Shikhman canon isn’t gonna be making EF-S anything itll be EF-M and RF.

  • @dublosix
    @dublosix 2 года назад +2

    I was contemplating the 16-80, while I have the 18-55, 12mm, 23 and 50mm primes. But it was indeed a great buy. Fits my XT4 perfectly. If in doubt.. Buy this.

  • @thecrazyanchovy9218
    @thecrazyanchovy9218 4 года назад +5

    I love your reviews. Sadly, despite all the wonderful work you've done recently, and your reviews really are fantastic, all.ove noticed is how good the Panasonic S1H is. Merry Christmas

    • @norbertro8709
      @norbertro8709 3 года назад

      They are two different things. Panasonic S1H cost four times as this Fuji. If I can buy the Panasonic S1H at the same price as Fuji yes, but at four time........

  • @bobbiqho
    @bobbiqho 4 года назад +10

    Great and honest review as always.
    Planning on buying this lens for a long time, but after watching this video, i decided not too.
    Please continue to create great and honest review so potential buyers like me can make better buying decision.

    • @raygeary1698
      @raygeary1698 4 года назад +3

      Check out other reviews 1st don't base on what Chris says it a good lens

  • @nathan88274
    @nathan88274 4 года назад

    Great Review!

  • @sportsound55
    @sportsound55 6 месяцев назад

    Works well on our XT5. My wife loves the aperture markings that our 18-55 lacks. We crop a lot so the corner softness isn't really an issue, and there's always Topaz Sharp AI. Great travel lens

  • @snowwalker9999
    @snowwalker9999 4 года назад +13

    I was hoping for more actual video testing of its IS on X-T3 compared with X-H1

  • @jamppaVlog
    @jamppaVlog 4 года назад +3

    I've bought this lens and loving it.Small and compact.Using it for photography and videos.

  • @paulbourdin5477
    @paulbourdin5477 4 года назад +5

    3'56" great Jordan's picture!!!👍😄

  • @lim2001burger
    @lim2001burger 4 года назад +1

    Jordan in foetal position with a pained face? Check! You guys are great - perfect mix of humour and information merry Christmas!

  • @munkykng416
    @munkykng416 4 года назад +2

    The Sony 16-70 f4 was my favorite for a long time. The image was quite crisp 👌 Was considering switching to a Fuji system. I might consider this combination

  • @marcomarcon5802
    @marcomarcon5802 4 года назад +14

    I own it and use it mostly for video work with my X-T3, and, as Jordan says, it's great for video, posssibly the most useful Fuji lens for videographers. By the way, the much glorified 18-55 is also soft in the corners, I did countless tests against comparable FF, APS-C and M43 lenses and I can assure you this is the case. Fuji sacrifices corner sharpness to compensate for distortion

    • @thomasanderson5929
      @thomasanderson5929 6 месяцев назад

      Any thoughts on the Fuji 16-80mm vs the Olympus 12-100mm F/4 IS Pro? Which would you go for and why?

    • @marcomarcon5802
      @marcomarcon5802 6 месяцев назад

      the 12-100mm is one stop equivalent slower than the 16-80mm but it has a wider focal range and on a newer Olympus body you get much better stabilisation, (although I haven't checked the IS on the newer, fancier Fujis). I think 12-100mm on an OM-1 is a super tool for videos, very rugged, flexible, very stable. As for sharpness, I used them both and they are both more than sharp enough for video@@thomasanderson5929

  • @al-tes
    @al-tes 4 года назад

    That IS was very impressive in my usage

  • @DapperArtImagery
    @DapperArtImagery 4 года назад

    Somewhat related but I've especially enjoyed the quality of your videos since shooting with the S1H

  • @mortenthorpe
    @mortenthorpe 4 года назад +9

    The 16-80 is insanely good!!! It’s primary good range is from around 20-75 mm... not that it’s bad in the whole range, but it’s a medium-range soon lens, so above expectations

  • @roykennie92
    @roykennie92 4 года назад +2

    There appears to be a fairly wide sample variation with this lens. My copy is excellent, actually sold my 16mm f1.4 when I compared side by side. I think the wise thing to do would be to try and have a thorough test before adding to your arsenal.

  • @eileenconragan1064
    @eileenconragan1064 3 года назад +1

    Hadn’t noticed the softness in edge and would a non photographic eye when printed? I purchased this over the other kit lens for that extra added reach. I’m happy with it and not sure if I would notice the difference. When purchased with Fuji body I saved $400!

  • @ThePhotographyHobbyist
    @ThePhotographyHobbyist 4 года назад +1

    Hmmmm. I was debating getting this over a used 18-55 and I think I'm still glad I decided to stick with the 18-55, especially since it's just for a backup/secondary camera. I definitely would prefer to have the bigger focal range though, but it's just not a deal-breaker for me (the more limited 18-55).

    • @collodionpositive554
      @collodionpositive554 3 года назад

      I had the 18-55 previously but now have the 16-80 it’s nice to have a little more range especially for a single lens travel setup

  • @johnjon1823
    @johnjon1823 4 года назад +1

    I am expecting more out of a Fuji lens, it is after all an XF type not the cheaper type, and besides they are known for good glass. I was considering this lens because it is such a great versatile zoom, now, I am really going to re-think it. I have lots of their lenses and they are almost universally really good, and even the ones that are less good, are still good lenses. But here we have the XF version, weather sealed, and really I was hoping for better performance. Thanks for the review, have heard similar corner softness reports elsewhere as well. Best wishes!

  • @TiffinboxTV
    @TiffinboxTV 4 года назад +2

    Softness issues - did you try the lens after the latest firmware upgrades? Curious if that changes things for you at all.

  • @iNerdier
    @iNerdier 4 года назад +3

    Maybe I'm an outlier here, but in my family we always decorated the tree on Christmas eve and left it up until 12th night (Eve of Epiphany). So It's not strange to have trees up in January!

    • @niccollsvideo
      @niccollsvideo 4 года назад

      Totally! I'm just lazy at packing it all up myself.

  • @blizzbee
    @blizzbee 2 года назад

    5:27 "face-to-the-light" shot !!! 😄💡

  • @peterferry1646
    @peterferry1646 4 года назад

    Amazing lens ! I ve got it Nothing to complain about

  • @matt_phistopheles
    @matt_phistopheles 4 года назад +1

    I think that the corner sharpness isn't much worse than most rivals but the heavy distortion correction will push it over the edge for most people. If you turn off the lens correction then the sharpness is actually not that bad (if the OIS hasn't ruined the picture).

  • @clarkmiex21
    @clarkmiex21 4 года назад +82

    Me:
    *doesnt own a Fuji camera and doesn’t plan on buying one*
    Me:
    “Oh hey a new DPReview video, I need to make sure I watch the whole thing”

    • @clanpsi
      @clanpsi 4 года назад +5

      You should consider it. They're incredibly fun to shoot with.

    • @DavidDatura
      @DavidDatura 4 года назад +3

      Yeah, these DPReview former The Camera Store guys are my favorite RUclips photo reviewers.

    • @Thomas_Geist
      @Thomas_Geist 4 года назад +1

      Are you talking to a professional about this?

  • @UncIeMJ
    @UncIeMJ 3 года назад

    That ghosting at 80 mm is incredible heavy.

  • @nerdMike
    @nerdMike 4 года назад

    Does it have the same zoom problem during video like on 16-58 2.8? People says it's parfocal, but it's wrong, also in manual focus during the zoom it loses focus to re engage it when you stop the zoom, like it knows where it was the focus before, but it's a problem when you zoom, you lose focus totally in between. Also getting wider while zooming you can see kind of corner movements and the legs try to get the proper wide angle of view, changing objects shape. Very disappointed. 😞
    I did tested the lens last month you can find the problem mentioned above about 16-55 2.8 at the minute 11:40 of my video review.

  • @davebenson1504
    @davebenson1504 3 года назад +4

    thanks... I traded off my 16-55 for this lens... and happy with the smaller size and IS... f4 has not been an issue for me... soft corners has never been an issue for me...

    • @ddiegorosa
      @ddiegorosa 3 года назад +3

      Dave thanks for your opinion. I know that for most professionals and enthusiasts pixel peeping isn't a thing when you print photos and these reviews always scare me when they put do much emphasis on corner sharpness at 100% +

  • @dontpokethebear3893
    @dontpokethebear3893 4 года назад +2

    I was choosing between this and 16-55 for my X-T3. I figured I wanted better sharpness and f 2.8 over a longer focal range and IS. I am happy! I also don't think that 200g extra weight is that much when you consider the camera + lens weight combined.

  • @ArchBrew
    @ArchBrew 4 года назад +13

    OMG! Iron Maiden pinball machine! 8-)

  • @blueanthias
    @blueanthias Год назад

    Thanks again. This is the lens I bought with my X-T5. Would you recommend this lens for shooting my granddaughters wedding?
    Once again, thanks for the great reviews.

  • @TheLostKuma
    @TheLostKuma 4 года назад

    Jordan's definitely switched now to a S1H :)

  • @blaizze
    @blaizze 4 года назад +2

    It would be nice to see the comparison between this and Sony 18-105, f/4.

  • @patrick.771
    @patrick.771 4 года назад +1

    Did this lens become sharper with the firmware updates or are the corners still very soft?
    Considering this as landscape/hiking lens ...

  • @DmitryBrodsky007
    @DmitryBrodsky007 4 года назад +13

    I was actually looking to get this lens for travel, but I guess Ill stick with 18-55. Seriously, soft corners at wide end and softness does not go away even if you stop down, in year 2019????

  • @chippy511
    @chippy511 4 года назад +2

    H apply Christmas to you and JORDAN I HAVE ENJOYED YOUR VIDEOS 2019. ENJOY 🍺😉🍾

    • @chippy511
      @chippy511 4 года назад

      Sorry HAPPY CHRISTMAS ✌️😊

  • @JonInLondon
    @JonInLondon 4 года назад

    People have been complaining about shutter-shock issues with this lens (at around 1/160th), did you see this?
    Also Fuji appear to be suggesting this was improved in firmware 1.02, which firmware were you using?
    Oh and Jordan - glad to see the lens adds IBIS to the XT3 (@3:07)... ;-)

  • @PhotoGearFun
    @PhotoGearFun 4 года назад +4

    I mostly use my Fuji cameras for photos so I think I will stick with the 18-55 which is one of my favorite kit lenses of all time. Thanks for the video guys. Cheers.

    • @papag9296
      @papag9296 4 года назад +1

      Photo Gear Fun good idea

    • @fwfeo
      @fwfeo 3 года назад

      If you don't miss the reach of the 80mm, you'll be happy man!

  • @patrick.771
    @patrick.771 3 года назад

    Does this lens have some kind of "lock mechanism" that prevents it from collapsing while walking around with the camera attached to a peak design clip?

  • @leojonkers3181
    @leojonkers3181 2 года назад +1

    First lens where I change my auto iso into 200 iso. Time does noet matter 99% of the time. Range is great, very nice lens.

  • @tomariko
    @tomariko 4 года назад

    What lens are you song to shoot with the Panasonic it is very sharp

  • @MarkMark
    @MarkMark Год назад

    This lens looks lovely. Also, it is so odd to watch videos from before the pandemic. We didn't know.

  • @MorningWon
    @MorningWon 2 года назад

    If I have this lens would it be worth it to get the FUJIFILM XF 18mm f/1.4 R LM WR Lens for travel photography or just use this one? Thanks!

  • @DiogoFilipeR
    @DiogoFilipeR 3 года назад

    I have the samyang 12mm f2, the 55-100mm f3.5-4.8, and the 18-55mm f2.8-4. I was thinking about selling the 18-55 for this one, what do you think? I think I would like the extra mm, but the softness is something I don't want to because I'll use this when travelling and it is mostly point and shoot in aperture mode

  • @Thomas_Geist
    @Thomas_Geist 4 года назад

    I’ve read the IS goes off automatically when it senses no movement as on a tripod or your draw for that matter. But by now I’m sure you’ve heard this a dozen times.

  • @vaibhavpisal
    @vaibhavpisal 4 года назад +1

    Please make more of these mini reviews.
    Also a nikon dx 16-80 comparison would be helpful.

  • @DeepteshLovesTECH
    @DeepteshLovesTECH 4 года назад

    The S1H's IBIS looks superb! On par with the Lumix G9, despite having to handle a 2x larger sensor!

  • @FauxtakuLounge
    @FauxtakuLounge 4 года назад +1

    Looks like a great lens. I'm not ready to move up or down to it from the 16-55 or 18-55 do to the price. Thanks for the great information regarding stills and video.

  • @alfiolora3446
    @alfiolora3446 3 года назад

    Question , why would you want the IS off ? What benwfit is there to that over having it on 😕

  • @roblodge3818
    @roblodge3818 4 года назад +2

    Hey Chris, I agree with you in the most part, but one major issue I have found with this lens is long exposures! I shoot quite a lot of long exposures in my work and the lens will more often than not produce blurred images once you start using exposures of >30 seconds. This issue is so bad that I am returning it back to the shop today. My suspicion is the OIS, as you can’t physically turn it off, I’ve done tests with my 10-24 & 55-200 with OIS off and no problems!

    • @amandawilson2303
      @amandawilson2303 4 года назад +1

      I just had this issue. It was really frustrating. But I went into the menu and turned off IS and all of a sudden my images were nice and sharp. The lens didn't detect my camera was on a tripod

    • @oe9fwv
      @oe9fwv 2 года назад

      @@amandawilson2303 I cannot find the switch for IS in the menu of my XT-4. Can you give me a hint?

    • @amandawilson2303
      @amandawilson2303 2 года назад

      @@oe9fwv It's under shooting setting on the second page. IS Mode

    • @oe9fwv
      @oe9fwv 2 года назад

      @@amandawilson2303 thank you! It will obviously switch off both - the lens OIS and the IBIS.

  • @kolossimike
    @kolossimike 4 года назад +7

    Can someone at DPR please explain to Chris the difference between 'dampened' and 'damped.' Are the focus and aperture rings well damped, or are they pleasantly moist?

  • @ManlyHK1
    @ManlyHK1 Год назад

    Can you do macro on this lens? Looks like it can from your video!

  • @Ws6er97
    @Ws6er97 4 года назад

    The color and out of focus rendering on the S1-H knocked my socks off but there was something missing. I vote that you only shoot anamorphic lenses and incorporate the Michael Bay spin at the precise moment you tell Chris he'll be shooting another 35mm lens review. MORE DRAMA!

  • @DigiDriftZone
    @DigiDriftZone Год назад +3

    I personally "upgraded" from 16-80 to the 18-55. The lens is much smaller, lighter, faster, doesn't lose focus in video while zooming and just feels more balanced, it's also much nicer to bring or when travelling, you definitely feel the size difference. One thing to stress is F4 is full frame equivalent to F6, on the iPhone you now have F6.2 equiv, so the 16-80 is marginally better than an iPhone for many types of photography (e.g. indoors, low light, casual), for a comparatively much heavier lens than other options.
    Being able to get to F2.8 at 18mm on the 18-55 is literally double the light coming into the lens, it makes the difference between a blurry or noisy image in a restaurant, vs a really nice one. Sure 16mm is noticeably wider, but at the expense of flatter (and in my opinion cheaper) looking images and the extra 25mm on the zoom end really isn't much, it won't make it much more useful for sports or wildlife and with F4 it has limited portrait use (if you even want to be this far away at 80mm). For me, the 18-55 is a clear winner and I sold my 16-80.

    • @michaelb9940
      @michaelb9940 Год назад +1

      you made the same comment on multiple videos. Lol.
      Anyways, I am trying to pick between 18.55 or 16.80. Which do you recommend after your experience? I am using for basic travel photos and want something for all occasions. Thank youy

    • @DigiDriftZone
      @DigiDriftZone Год назад +2

      @@michaelb9940 The 16-80 feels very bulky and big so I didn't like carrying it when travelling. It's not even just the fact the lens is much bigger and heavier than the 18-55, but also you get worse photos with it on the wide end if you ever go indoors or want to photograph in low light, or you just want to have that dramatic foreground/background separation / 3d pop that you really need F2.8 (or lower) for. Also from a tactile standpoint, the 16-80 is one of those lenses where the zoom feels "cheap", it creeps open under gravity alone (you can't use it on a tripod facing down say) and parts of the zoom range have more resistance than others - it just doesn't quite feel "special" like using other Fuji lenses.
      I am in Costa Del Sol (Spain) at the moment and took a day trip to Ronda, and actually really loved walking around with the Viltrox 13mm F1.4, despite also being a big lens. However, it's worth the weight as the photos you get out of it are very striking and unique. The photos I was getting from the 16-80 didn't look much better/different to my iPhone (and in low light much worse). I kept asking myself why am I bringing this big heavy, slow lens, until I sold it that is.
      It depends on what you're photographing though, lately, I've been bringing a 35mm F2 prime, 13mm Viltrox F1.4 for wide establishing shots and something like a 15-45mm zoom for daylight/vlogging/etc - it's so tiny! - If I want to photograph wildlife, I also bring my 50-230mm (I'm eyeing that 100-400 but it's so big and I'm not as into wildlife as other types of photography when I travel).
      Choosing between the 18-55 and 16-80 for me is an easy choice, the 18-55 is much better in my opinion as an allrounder - but if you want a travel lens, well, is it architecture and small winding European roads? - if so you want a wider focal length, maybe something like a 13mm Viltrox is much better. Or do you want to do street photography capturing specific parts of the scene, if so you may want to create some distance to your subject, the 35mm F2 is fantastic and discreet as it's a very tiny lens, etc.

    • @michaelb9940
      @michaelb9940 Год назад +1

      @@DigiDriftZone bro THANK YOU so much. You know the funny thing is I’m actually buying to visit Ronda this summer 😂. I appreciate the feedback and after doing some research I too came to your conclusion on the 16-80.
      I’m now leaning for 35 and 23. But the 13mm looks good too. Thanks again and enjoy your travels mate

    • @DigiDriftZone
      @DigiDriftZone Год назад +2

      @@michaelb9940 Haha, small world! - It's an absolutely stunning part of the world and a nice wide angle is definitely worth having to capture the whole gorge. Also if you get a chance, visit Caminito Del Rey while you're here (book well in advance). It's another one of those breathtaking places where I really appreciated having the 13mm in my camera bag (and not having the extra weight of the 16-80!) :)

    • @michaelb9940
      @michaelb9940 Год назад

      @@DigiDriftZone it sure is. And thanks again will research that

  • @jorellegates4099
    @jorellegates4099 4 года назад

    Can anyone tell me what the minimum focusing distance is when at 16mm? any good for vlogging?

  • @jstevens005
    @jstevens005 4 года назад

    I’m new to Fuji, I would say I’m a hybrid shooter so I like what I see overall but if I can only buy one do I go with this, the kit 18-55 or the 18-135. They are all at a very similar price point but I could probably get the 18-55 for about $400 used...

    • @yaskasochnik
      @yaskasochnik 4 года назад

      18-55 is very good for its price.

  • @hpeterh
    @hpeterh 4 года назад

    If you set the focus point near to the corner, is it still soft? Or is it sharp?
    It is rather clear such an extreme zoom is not made for architectural photo and there is probably some curvature of field, but this would not matter too much for the intended purpose of this lens.

    • @dpreview
      @dpreview  4 года назад +1

      As you can see in the sample gallery, we always take a separate image focused in the corner when testing corner sharpness.
      Thanks for watching!

  • @ytubeleo
    @ytubeleo 4 года назад

    Which lens Firmware Version were you using?

  • @peekaboochubby4895
    @peekaboochubby4895 2 года назад

    Please compare it to the 18 - 55 kit lense

  • @jmagephotography689
    @jmagephotography689 2 года назад

    Great content. As a beginner, I am now decided to get this kit lens to be paired with my first camera (x-t4). What would you suggest as my second lens.
    I am more interested with street photography and family portrait. TIA.

    • @dannydanutzu1
      @dannydanutzu1 2 года назад

      Same as me, my second choice qs portrait use was 56 1.2

  • @original5862
    @original5862 4 года назад

    Why both guy not reviews about fuji XF 90mm F2???

  • @chcomes
    @chcomes 4 года назад +8

    how is the IS in video? jittery like some others?

    • @fwfeo
      @fwfeo 3 года назад +1

      It's not jittery, but does fight you when you want to move which doesn't look good. If you're keeping it steady, it's amazing.

  • @renatobfa
    @renatobfa 3 года назад

    Guys, no comments about the focus flickring while zooming on video mode? I was a bit desapoited with that aspect and you guys didnt even show that on the video part of the review

  • @linsnowx
    @linsnowx 4 года назад +23

    Just came back from a carribean cruise with mainly shooting this lens. Got to say I’m a little disappointed by its image quality especially at the corners at the long end. Oh well it’s still a great travel lens but by no mean a pro glass...

    • @billmoyer3254
      @billmoyer3254 4 года назад +5

      wtf do you expect, a thousand primes in one lens?

    • @trym2121
      @trym2121 3 года назад

      Err.. pro glass is 16-55 and 50-140. That's what you should be looking at

  • @addsy6396
    @addsy6396 4 года назад +32

    We really need a comparison with the 18-55 image quality wise. I need to know if its a better lens before I make the jump

    • @RunTheTape
      @RunTheTape 4 года назад +43

      I had both (sold the 18-55). The sharpness of the 18-55 is unmatched by the 16-80, and also weighs a bit more. It's quite hefty overall, the volume is what is much bigger.
      But the target of a kit lens like this makes it a no-brainer. When you go for a hike with only one lens you want to have this one instead of the 18-5, trust me. Wide Landscapes ? boom 16 mm right there. You spot a bear? The bear will kill you and eat you whole together with the 18-55.. The 80m reach on the 16-80 might just save your life.

    • @RunTheTape
      @RunTheTape 4 года назад +7

      Also, the video is superb with this lens. Fantastic for video! Not that the 18-55 had any issues or anything, but the IS on this one makes you able to catch great footage just by supporting the camera with the neck strap a breeze.

    • @addsy6396
      @addsy6396 4 года назад +7

      @@RunTheTape Sorry, Bogdan. Misunderstood your first sentence. Are you saying the 18-55 or the 16-80 is sharper?

    • @RunTheTape
      @RunTheTape 4 года назад +8

      Addsy the 16-80 is a bit softer overall. But it has many other advantages, like the range and the weather sealing and the better IS. It is larger though..

    • @addsy6396
      @addsy6396 4 года назад +5

      Bogdan Dumitru thank you for clarifying Bogdan 🙏

  • @DinoDiLabio
    @DinoDiLabio 2 года назад

    You took a photograph from That Iron maiden pinball machine.

  • @RafsanBasher
    @RafsanBasher 4 года назад

    Hey Chris, If u can take only one lens for the xt3, what would that be?

    • @MalaikaToo
      @MalaikaToo 4 года назад +1

      I think he likes the 35mm equivalent a lot ....?
      ;o)

  • @AdamMuise
    @AdamMuise 4 года назад +4

    Kind of a prime guy, not a super-zoom type. I've been using this lens for a week now and it makes it's way onto my xt-30 and awful lot. It's a great dog walking lens. I've even taken it out in nighttime street photography where I would normally take f1.4 or f2 fujicrons and it's great. The OIS is pretty incredible and I have a bunch of great shots handheld at f4 and 1/8 sec that are sharp even when pixel-peeping. (this is doubly impressive given how much coffee I drink). it's a bit big on the x-pro3 but meh, that's what the EVF is for.

    • @niccollsvideo
      @niccollsvideo 4 года назад

      I obviously really enjoyed the IS as well. It's very effective. It's perfectly acceptable as a walk around lens.

    • @papag9296
      @papag9296 4 года назад +2

      Thanks for the postive comment lots of ppl dislike the lens and its making me feel like i made a horrible decision

    • @Freestyler913
      @Freestyler913 4 года назад

      @@papag9296 I think more that half people comment on a lense they never had.

  • @GmodMark
    @GmodMark Год назад +1

    If people are looking at the corners of your photo, then you didn't take a picture of anything interesting 😆

  • @Thomas_Geist
    @Thomas_Geist 4 года назад

    I have yet to be distracted by onions rings unless they’re cold and soggy. I had to look closely after having my attention drawn and didn’t notice much of anything. I’m not a zoom kinda guy. I’m a one-camera-one-lens guy who only owns 4 cameras and 7 primes. I got the 16-80mm lens with my T4 because it’s a deal as a package and it will make my T3 more versatile and less likely to collect dust now that I have IBIS on another body. I know it’s an inanimate object but we’ve become friends and I wasn’t comfortable selling the T3 because I got a new body. That’s what my Ex did and I remember it didn’t feel good. Too many Walt Disney movies as a kid. Trash talk my Mini Cooper and you’re in deep shit.

  • @jberenden
    @jberenden 3 года назад

    I’m pre ordering the new X-S10 and am really in doubt between the 18-55 and the 16-80. Which one produces sharper images and which one would you recommend?

  • @6884
    @6884 Год назад

    5:03 did I already lose the Whamageddon? in March??

  • @kart182
    @kart182 4 года назад +1

    I'm pretty sure you can switch on/off the is in settings

  • @mickywes3733
    @mickywes3733 2 года назад

    Clearly a video lens. Probably the only one you would ever need unless you are a pro!

  • @erinmensching7163
    @erinmensching7163 4 года назад +6

    The question is do I sell my 18-135mm and buy this lens? I miss the wide end with the 18 -135 and often have my 14 mm with me for wide shots.

    • @papag9296
      @papag9296 4 года назад

      Erin Mensching its quite expensive and its an average lens but its versatile, light and has some good ois

    • @trym2121
      @trym2121 3 года назад

      Get another body for your 14mm and you're done

    • @dannydanutzu1
      @dannydanutzu1 2 года назад

      I wouldnt sell 18-130 for 16-80...i dont know, depends on your purpose.

  • @badhabit714
    @badhabit714 4 года назад +5

    Chris Niccolls the Red Ear reindeer.

    • @Lainer1
      @Lainer1 4 года назад

      Had a very snotty nose...hahahaha!

  • @Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy
    @Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy Год назад

    Angry P gave this a 10 out of 10. I got one, and yea fooled once again, lol. It's no 16-55mm. Weird that it's the Kit lens on the 40mp X-H2. For general purposes or video, it's great.

  • @uk7195
    @uk7195 3 года назад +2

    Which one is better 18 to 55 or 16 to 80 for start?

    • @dannydanutzu1
      @dannydanutzu1 2 года назад

      Bot good but i really prefer 16-80

  • @sepp540
    @sepp540 4 года назад +2

    Does the new firmware improve the lens?

    • @dannydanutzu1
      @dannydanutzu1 2 года назад +1

      Yes. Notes included in each firmware version history. It really does the job

  • @EDHBlvd
    @EDHBlvd 4 года назад +6

    That background of “Last Christmas” playing stresses me out. Thought you may get hit with copyright claims.

    • @santosovideo
      @santosovideo 4 года назад +2

      Haha, the youtube life, it never ends...

  • @jangarcia1338
    @jangarcia1338 4 года назад +14

    Jordan, did you try to zoom while recoding video? It goes quite crazy with focus and shifting exposure like if it was flickering.
    I think this is one of Fuji's first bad creations and we must acknowledge it. Specially when it is 800 euros where we have lenses like the Tamron 28-75 for Sony, full frame, the 18-105 for Sony apsc, or the Olympus 12-40 and 12-100 pro lenses. This lens is just a highly overpriced average lens.

    • @theeclecticphotographerajr5372
      @theeclecticphotographerajr5372 4 года назад +3

      Jan Garcia by all the videos I have seen on this lens I agree with you 100%! Over priced

    • @Lurreable
      @Lurreable 4 года назад +1

      Interesting. Is the 18-135/3,5-5,6 preferable? That's the only alternative that goes from wide to tele.

    • @papag9296
      @papag9296 4 года назад +1

      Yeah i agree it is overpriced for what u get I guess for being light and versatile its ok and plus it is a new lens so it’s expensive

    • @jangarcia1338
      @jangarcia1338 4 года назад

      @@Lurreable Well that depends on your shooting style and situations. You get longer reach but less light gathering. Also slightly less wide angle of view.
      Still I find these lenses expensive because they don't give you crazy massive reach and they are average optically. I think that 500 $ would be the fair price, but 800$ is crazy.

  • @matthewwells1606
    @matthewwells1606 4 года назад +10

    I hated this lens and ultimately returned it. I found it was fine for objects near at hand that did not require corner sharpness and the OIS was actually quite good. But my copy was terrible focused at infinity/distant objects and just not sharp at all at any focal length, even at the center. Photos of distant buildings or big landscapes, for example, all were a bit fuzzy when zoomed in. I also didn't think the firmware fixed the "shutter shock" issue with the mechanical shutter. For me, as a Fuji user, this is a base hit that could have been a triple. Oh well.

    • @trym2121
      @trym2121 4 года назад

      Seems like a decentered lens

    • @matthewwells1606
      @matthewwells1606 4 года назад

      @@trym2121 Seems like Fuji whiffed it on this one.

    • @Freestyler913
      @Freestyler913 4 года назад

      With which lense do you compare the 16 80? It's a zoom, like a 24 105 ff, it can't be super sharp everywhere , that's a downside of a zoom. But the benefits are real too

    • @matthewwells1606
      @matthewwells1606 4 года назад +1

      @@Freestyler913 A travel camera that can't focus on infinity is not a travel camera. In terms of comparisons, I'd say it is worse than the Nikon 24-120 f/4 at all focal lengths, and substantially worse than a used Fuji 16-55 f/2.8, which is sharp through the range. It's worse than the 55-200 as well. It's dogshit.

    • @Freestyler913
      @Freestyler913 4 года назад

      @@matthewwells1606 Wow, I can feel your frustration; didn't expect that the 16 - 55 2.8 is worse than the 24 120 ; what's is your gear now ? you gave up with fuji ?

  • @ziginox
    @ziginox 4 года назад

    I'm usually not one to complain about bokeh (creamy, swirly, round, hexagonal, or even reflex lens donuts, all are nice!) That being said, the circular patterns in the bokeh balls on this lens are super rough and distracting. It's probably the first time I've commented on something like that.

  • @lurker668
    @lurker668 3 года назад

    Wait, so you cant turn of Stabilisation ? or you can do it only in camera ?

    • @collodionpositive554
      @collodionpositive554 3 года назад +1

      It also has tripod detection so will turn off automatically or you can do it in the settings

  • @papag9296
    @papag9296 4 года назад +7

    My pros and cons for this lens (I have it)
    ++++++Pros:
    Fast autofocus.
    Slient.
    Ois is great.
    Focal length is fantastic.
    Versatile hybrid for photos and video.
    Its nice size and light, makes camera look ‘cool’.
    -----Cons:
    F/4 is is pretty eh i wish i could let in more light but means i have to raise iso in some instances which creates noise.
    It has a focus wobble when zooming though out focal length see pal2tech video about this.
    Focus distance is 35cm its ok not the best.
    It dosnt have the best corner sharpness throughout the apertures but can be fixed in post.
    Expensive! When for $200 more u can buy the 16-55mm f2.8 but no ois on lens.
    Conclusion: for the causal shooter its fine but for someone professional or experienced it may not be the best choice.

    • @Festvangelist
      @Festvangelist 2 года назад +1

      Many options to consider with lenses. I shoot with a XS with IBIS so the f4 is not a high concern for me. The focal length of 55 vs. 80 is an issue for me so a second lens will be required to cover that focal range deficiency. If absolute resolution is the highest priority then it appears the 16-55 would be a better choice. I have seen over 50 of images shot with the 16-80 by professionals who whole heartedly endorse the 16-80 lens and I believe my eyes. If one is really focused on both quality and focal length then perhaps a prime lens would be a better choice. As they say “There is no such thing as a perfect lens “ and IMO when shooting with a zoom vs a prime you are basically assessing what level of compromise is acceptable on the image quality issue. From what I have learned from others is that the 16-55 and the 16-80 are both fine zoom lenses.

  • @DavidDatura
    @DavidDatura 4 года назад +21

    I don’t know, but it seems Fuji with every new lens release lately, seems to be compromising more and more on optical quality. The onion ring bokeh, but especially the quite severe corner softness throughout much of the range, is very disappointing. And this lens isn’t cheap! Should be better for the money.

    • @mrMacMilli2000
      @mrMacMilli2000 4 года назад +8

      Ok.... this is what we should do....
      Take one deep breath in , and 2 Big steps back.
      Aw.... see? From hear, Whilst holding our breath,
      Alas, it is an image taken with a Fuji lens. Not sterile and sharp, other than where it Surgically needs to be . Allowing us to see that we are viewing an artist composed image, and Not a 1 to 1 Anatomical view of reality, that we can see everyday, with our own eyes.

    • @raspas99
      @raspas99 4 года назад +3

      That's true and also if you look at how much artificial correction the camera body does or fuji software when you import raw photos you realise that the distortion is on par with lenses that are twice as cheap. I did notice that fuji has a lot of fanboys which is not very good for any kind of conversation but thankfully this you can actually measure and it's quite awful-for that price.

    • @bh9262
      @bh9262 4 года назад

      @@mrMacMilli2000 What?

    • @mrMacMilli2000
      @mrMacMilli2000 4 года назад

      @@bh9262 yo. I'm trying to figure out that too. Lol

    • @Thomas_Geist
      @Thomas_Geist 4 года назад +2

      I’m not a Fuji fan boy but do like the English language. “Twice as cheap?” That doesn’t even make sense. Did you mean, “half the price?”
      You will never get photons to line up perfectly the way you want when you shoot them through 16 pieces of glass on a zoom lens. Zoom lenses today are built using computerized logarithmic tables and lasers. They’re actually pretty damn good compared to not that long ago, but they will never replace a prime with a handful of elements. You buy a zoom at this price range for convenience; and you buy $1500 zooms for weight lifting exercise.
      I’m a prime lens guy. I got the 16-80mm as my only zoom just to say I have one, it was a deal packages with my new T4 and will go on my T3 so I have an excuse to keep it. I think it’s pretty good for what it is and what I use it for. The only dog in Fuji’s lineup is probably the 18mm and that’s still better than a Nikkor or Canon or Zuiko of a few decades ago.
      Do people ever tell you that you’re crabby?

  • @jayonair
    @jayonair 4 года назад +3

    Dont see you mention that this focus shifting when zooming while recording videos? Also the auto exposure sucks.

    • @niccollsvideo
      @niccollsvideo 4 года назад +3

      Its more so because of the incredible rarity of consumer lenses to be parfocal. Generally that is something reserved for quite specialized and expensive lenses. It's a good point though to mention that this lens is not parfocal.

    • @jayonair
      @jayonair 4 года назад

      @@niccollsvideo I'm glad you replied. This is a $1000 lense, though it come with a kit it's not a cheap one. Fuji should regard video capabilities more seriously IMO. Whatever a brilliant review as always.

    • @hojoonkim660
      @hojoonkim660 4 года назад

      @@jayonair It is 799 In US.

    • @jayonair
      @jayonair 4 года назад

      @@hojoonkim660 Well then it's $800 lense :)

    • @peterferry1646
      @peterferry1646 4 года назад

      Pb totally fixed with firmware

  • @matemarijan3795
    @matemarijan3795 4 года назад +1

    Should I go for this or 18-55 mm f2.8-4 as my travel lens?

    • @temporarymomentary
      @temporarymomentary 4 года назад +1

      Mate Marijan Always go for f2.8

    • @ggzzbb
      @ggzzbb 4 года назад +1

      @@temporarymomentary it's only 2.8 at 18mm. Anyway I say, it's depends on your needs. The 18-55 can be found a lot cheaper on eBay. It doesn't cover the whole range as this one.

    • @theeclecticphotographerajr5372
      @theeclecticphotographerajr5372 4 года назад +1

      You only save about $200 bucks going to a used 16-55 from eBay. I don’t see a big savings. I bought my 17-55 2.5 Nikkor on eBay for $500 bucks, new $1400. That’s a savings....

    • @ggzzbb
      @ggzzbb 4 года назад

      @@theeclecticphotographerajr5372 Ebay: 250, B&H: 699. And we are talking about the 18-55.

    • @theeclecticphotographerajr5372
      @theeclecticphotographerajr5372 4 года назад

      Sorry I was thinking about the 16-55 2.8. 18-55 new 699, EBAY 300, 400 if you buy it with the xt3, for me I’ll pay 100 and go new.

  • @fellawhofilms7760
    @fellawhofilms7760 3 года назад

    So the iris 4 is constant through 16 to 80?

  • @mytravellinfo
    @mytravellinfo 4 года назад +5

    I have 18-55 and I was also waiting for this lens and I am so disappointed for it's corner softness.

    • @cks993
      @cks993 4 года назад +1

      This is common issue on fuji lens like xf10-24 really soft near corners.

    • @mytravellinfo
      @mytravellinfo 4 года назад

      @@cks993 and I am also in confusion between Fuji 16/1.4 with Samyang / Rokinon 12/2.0 fuji 16m has the same corner softness issue

    • @papag9296
      @papag9296 4 года назад +1

      U could sharpen in post but yeah its pretty poop tbh

    • @Freestyler913
      @Freestyler913 4 года назад

      Every zoom has downside, corner sharpness loss is normal, all ff zoom equivalent have it too, check the reviews of the 24 105

  • @skakdosmer
    @skakdosmer 4 года назад +20

    Bit pricey, isn’t it? For the money I'd expect better corner sharpness.

    • @papag9296
      @papag9296 4 года назад +1

      Lau Bjerno yeah i agree as it is its similar in price to there premium red label lens the 16-55mm f/2.8. I guess your paying for a lighter lens and ois which can help.

    • @trym2121
      @trym2121 4 года назад +1

      It's much better than Sony zeiss 16-70 f4. It's soft wide open at 70mm

    • @clanpsi
      @clanpsi 4 года назад +2

      @@papag9296 It's fully weather sealed, too.

    • @natekong3596
      @natekong3596 4 года назад +2

      @@papag9296 No they're not similar. The 16-55 F2.8 is $1,199. The 16-80 F4 is $799.

    • @papag9296
      @papag9296 4 года назад

      Nate Kong yeah like $300