PSYCHOTHERAPIST REACTS to Gang of Youths- Achilles Come Down
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To me "the most dangerous thing is to love" doesn't mean that it is dangerous to love because you might lose it but because of what you might do for love. Achilles died because of his love for Patroclus.
This was my thought as well, and it lines up with what Camus was talking about. That which we live for is that which we die for
i think its both and even more
I have the feeling that this line is "vague" on purpose
I mean, it can be dangerous because you can get hurt, because you can do dangerous things for the one you love, because your love can be a forbidden love etc. There's many ways how we can perceive the act of loving as a dangerous thing and that's why this line is so iconic to me.
it'a both actually, yes he talks about Achilles but also he's talking of the singer's personal life after loosing his wife.
Exactly! I remember saying that once to my ex
I absolutely love this song’s subtle details. Like how when the two voices are arguing for achilles’ attention at the end one says “jump off the roof” (unalive yourself) and the other says “get off the roof” (walk down the steps and go back to “normal life”) It sort of shows the duality of man. Also when they sing “achilles come down”
he could come down in two ways, jump off or walk down the stairs.
It's a paralel between Achiles's despair over the death of his lover Patroclus and the singer's suicide attempt after his ex wife's death
when I first heard the song, the line that really got me was "you crave the applause, yet hate the atenttion"
and I love the fact that it got through someone else
Oh, I had no idea what that line meant.
worth noting that the French bits are from Camu's "the Myth of Sissyphus" about the meaning of life or lack of thereof about which “There is only one really serious philosophical problem, and that is suicide" is an often used quote.
Hey Tom! I'm so lucky I have the opportunity to work with such amazing people, and thank you so much for the kind words! I know this song means a lot to me and a lot of others, so thank you for listening to it! :)
Thank you Emily! Loved doing this reaction. Thank you for all of your incredible thumbnails and for all you’ve meant to the success of Reaction Therapy😊❤
Every song in their repertoire is worthy of analysis. Dave, their lead singer and writer, has had an incredible life and writes from a place of experience. He is incredibly talented at putting the rawest human emotions into song while still making them feel hopeful. The album this comes from, Go Father in Lightness, is about his journey of love, loss, and healing. Their newest album, angel in real-time, is all about him dealing with the death of his father and discovering that he was not necessarily the person he thought he was. Highly recommend “forbearance”, “the man himself” or my personal favorite, “Still Unbeaten Life”.
The back and forth between the two voices is so cool to me. And the fact that the song keeps going after the "good" voice triumphs is a metaphor (at least to me) that even after you conquer an suicidal episode, the thoughts can still remain. The battle is not just a one and done, it is truly a battle that you have to fight more than once and that it won't be easy, but it will be worth it. That's my take, at least ❤
In the song ,Patroclus ,Achilleses lover sings to him to get off the roof. After Patroclus died ,Achilles fell into deep depression. It's not 100% ,but some say it's Apollo that tells Achilles to just give up and unalive himself in the song.
("How the most dangerous thing is to love" ,after finding Patroclus dead ,Achilles starts massacreing anyone on sight, that's why Apollo tells him to just die ,instead of continueing his meaningless existence)
Isn’t it argaemnon
Bro this makes me cry all the time
The most beautiful song! The internal monologue of someone on the edge, literally. It's so dark yet hopeful.
This song means so much to me, this song got me through the darkest time in my life.
The words in between the English parts are French and they go somewhat like this:
On the other hand, I see many people die because they judge that life is not worth living. I see others paradoxically getting killed for the ideas or illusions that give them a reason for living (what is called a reason for living is also an excellent reason for dying).
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Of an apartment-building manager who had killed himself I was told that he had lost his daughter five years before, that he had changed greatly since, and that that experience had "undermined" him.
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What sets off the crisis is almost always unverifiable. Newspapers often speak of "personal sorrows" or of "incurable illness." These explanations are plausible. But one would have to know whether a friend of the desperate man had not that very day addressed him indifferently.
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...the memory of a lost home or the hope of a promised land. This divorce between man and his life, the actor and his setting, is properly the feeling of absurdity.
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...either yes or no. This would be too easy. But allowance must be made for those who, without concluding, continue questioning. Here I am only slightly indulging in irony: this is the majority. I notice also that those who answer "no" act as if they thought "yes." As a matter of fact, if I accept the Nietzschean criterion, they think "yes" in one way or another.
I still remember the first time I realized what exactly this song is about, and I remember crying because it puts into perspective something that I have been experiencing nearly my whole life into something others can understand! I'm happy to say that these days the back and forth between the little brain goblin and my self preservation leaves the positives louder than the negatives🥰
I always love lyrics before anything else, so songs like this scratch my brain just right.
omg thank you this is one of my favorite songs its sad that many people dont know it so im even more happy to see your reaction
I love this song and have been listening to it a lot lately. The music is gorgeous and the interaction between the voices, including the French in the background is stunning. Great review.
I always took the part with the two voices talking to be one what the friend is saying, and the other what the depressed person is hearing
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I'm fairly certain this song was written with the book "song of achilles" in mind.
nah iliad book 12, 24. but also with song of achilles
It's important to have an understanding of the French Spoken word part of this song. These words are a direct exert from the philosophical essay The myth of Sisyphus by Albert Camus who was a French author and philosopher belonging to the movement of absurdism.
“Je vois que beaucoup de gens meurent parcequ’ils estiment que la vie ne vaut pas la peine d’être vécue et j’en vois d’autres qui se font paradoxalement tuer, pour les idées, les illusions qui leurs donnent une raison de vivre. Ce qui peut être une raison de vivre est en même temps une excellente raison de mourir. »
“I see that many people die because they deem that life is not worth living and I see others that, paradoxically, get themselves killed for the ideas, the illusions that gives them a reason to live. What can be a reason to live is at the same time an excellent reason to die.”
“D’un gérant d’immeuble qui s’était tué on disait qu’il avait perdu sa fille depuis Cinq ans, qu’il avait beaucoup changé et que cette histoire l’avait « miné ».”
“About a building manager that killed himself, people said that he had lost his daughter five years ago, that he had changed a lot and that this event “undermined” him.”
“Des souvenirs d’une patrie perdue, de l’espoir d’une terre promise, ce divorce entre l’homme de sa vie… ”
“Memories of a lost homeland, hope of a promised land, this divorce between a man and his life…”
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I play this song whenever my mental health gets bad. It really helps me with my struggles.
There is this song of them "in the wake of your leave" it's as great as this one
David is a master song writer with a fabulous voice to match,such talent,so young,I'd be proud to call my son
Thanks for introducing me to a new really good song.
This song hit me. I have a messed up ankle but have done historical carpentry restorations afterwards. I wanted to join the military to prove my love to a girl who did just that. So ive applied myself elsewhere to contribute to myself. Nothing has profited from my endeavor, and that’s okay. I made a gigantic difference in so many people’s life’s. They wouldn’t remember my name, just my dog who would stay beside me. Her name was DOG… heh fun stuff.
More people need to know this song
Omg thank you so much for doing this song!!!!
man literally admitted to having less empathy than a rubber mat.
you gotta do magnolia by gang of youths
Wow what a 🎵 song
Ok, first off, this is my current favorite song!
Second! Would you be willing to take a look at Epic the musical? Bc I don't believe I've seen a therapist react to it yet, and it is ripe with possibilities!
This is one of my favorite songs, and I think mental health through music is an awesome idea. But, this take really isn't it. Maybe if you listen to it some more
I hope you have done more gang of youth.
hi!! a song i think you should absolutely review is novacane by frank ocean! i am a psych (pre) major and love lyrical analysis so i wrote an essay for my english class about this song and would love to hear your thoughts about this song!!
When I first heard this on tiktok I seriously thought it was some newly released song by Johnny Depp from when he was younger coz he sounds so much like him 😂
The only thing I dispise about this song is that TikTok got its grubby, dirty hooks in it
plz do let it all work out by lil Wayne
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you should also listen to the french part, it gives a lot for the context too and it's also very interesting. There are videos with subtitles, I think ❤❤🩹
Yeah, it's one of the most interesting bits imo, I know a little French so I was able to Decipher it a bit on my own and it is really important for the song to me.