The iPhone gets 15W, but the Charger needs more than 15W to give out that amount. That’s normal. You have to take some losses into account. This Charger does not charge the iPhone 15 more quickly.
I don’t think the new charger is actually charging the older phone at greater than 15W. It’s likely that in order to push 15W of wireless charging it takes ~18.5W of line power because of losses due to wireless charging (and why you need a charging brick 5W more than the MagSafe charging speed) The older charger possibly wasn’t getting up to full speed for some reason or another. Still great to see someone testing it out though!
It is so annoying, because apparently you need to buy these new MagSafe chargers if you want to charge iPhone 16 pro series at 25w speed, but I bought anker cube that is like $100+. At least they did not make a newer Apple Watch charger for faster speed.
@@Antt28It’s not. The actual phonecharger connection is controlled by the phone - which requests the amount of power it wants the charging coil to push. The iPhone 15 MagSafe can only request up to 15W anyway. The new MagSafe charger can supply up to 25W to any phone that is capable of requesting it. Current Qi2 devices are also only able to negotiate up to 15W.
I’m surprised it’s not widely known that wireless have energy loss. The heat on the coil comes from energy and it’s “loss” since it doesn’t goes into the battery.
Just because the charger is pulling 18W doesn’t mean the phone is charging 15W, in fact I’m 100% sure it isn’t. Wireless charging is very inefficient compared to just plugging the phone in.
Is it worse to charge your iPhone with MagSafe charger rather than cable. I’ve always used a cable but considering getting a MagSafe stand as I can limit to 80% and it gives me standby mode
It’s about time they made all their charging cables braided. Cables in general, hopefully no more frayed chargers. I think over almost 8 years, I went through three chargers for my 2015 MacBook Air at about $80 apiece.
@@zollotech Is it significantly slimmer than the previous one? Can you reply with the difference in thickness? I am starting to think my MagSafe puck stand won’t work with the new charger 😭
You can’t use the power consumption of the wireless charger as the input to the phone. A lot of that is dissipated as heat. Ankers Qi2 charger requires 20 watts but only charges the iPhones at 15 watts.
If you account for the efficiency and losses, the USB-C side will draw more than actually arrives at the phone. Estimated 80% efficiency (stretching it a lot, usually worse) at 15W is an additional 3W = 18W power draw What I find more interesting though is the comparison with the old model, actually using much less than the 15W 😅
Glad they finally got a bump in the wireless speed. By the time iphone 17 comes out, im sure brands like ESR will have a good cooling solution for this new charging speed.
It is probably not just temp but also how much charge it has. I notice my watch will charge pretty quickly to 90% and it will really slow down to charge the last 10%
@@zollotechdefinitely, LiIon batteries will only charge at max speed under 30% usually to not stress the battery too much. Of course this is in the hands of the manufacturer to decide.
Aaron do you think the iPhone 15 Pro max will be able to handle 18.1 with AI without having the new improved thermals? another overheat from software issue?
This model duel brick or even the compact version. If you use one plug you get full 30v? Or if I say plug in MagSafe in one slot then my AirPods via USB C cable in the second slot. Is both drawing 30 or does it become 15/15
Aaron, I’m hearing that the new phones, Pro Max, charge at 45 watts. What Apple is available for the new phone? I’m only seeing a USB cord is coming in the box.
True but for myself I don’t mind the extra convenience of not having to plug my phone in every time if it means sacrifice battery longevity. I don’t mind spending the $60 to replace the battery every two years. Now I don’t have the headache of worrying about battery longevity and turning off a bunch of background settings.
Thanks that was very helpful I'm not a fan of braided cable at all I will pay more for a non braided cable if it gets a little dirty I can wipe it off braided just continues to get dirtier Thanks for all the work you put in your videos
hi aaron, may i know the model number of the new magsafe charger? the apple store gave me A2140 model and they assure me it's latest model. The cable is not braided so thinking they gave me old model. :(
You left the screen on?? If so, this video is meaningless because the screen being on would slow down the charge rate by a significant factor and it would also create a lot of heat which would further slow the charger down.
The new MagSafe charging speed on the phone is enabled by denser charging coils in the iPhone 16 line, so obviously it won't be the same for the older models.
Just like a lot of other comments are saying... The speed you measure on the wire is not the speed that goes into the phone since there's a lot of power loss with wireless charging. Wireless charging is still a very bad way to charge your phone because of the power loss and more importantly the high heat generated. It will degrade the battery much faster and take longer. And it's not even convenient since you still need to pull on it to detach the magnet!
I would imagine that because they only sell the new one you are probably ok to use it on older phones. If there was a thermal issue they would only list the new one as compatible with the 16 series.
i have lots of people claim this but my battery percentage is much better then them after a year and i charge at the max 27w on my 15 pm with a 67w brick
@@MRandomClips it varies, you probably just use your phone a lot less than they do. It's proven that heat destroys batteries, and charging with a 5W brick doesn't generate any. There's just no reason to fast charge overnight.
😂😂 ☠️I laugh “5w brick” what is 2012 you pay for expensive phone to charge it slow F that if you can pay for it you can get battery replacement which not expensive
@@bigmaxcc there’s literally no point in fast charging overnight, you’re sleeping lol. And some people keep their phones 3-4 years. The quickest I could get a battery replacement is 2 weeks, I can’t go without a phone that long so keeping my battery healthy is a must.
There is a claim that all iPhone 16 models can charge at an initial rate of 45 watts on a wired USB Type C connection. Try this with Apple's 67 watt adapter and see if that really does happen.
Because of the new regulations in China iPhone 16 series will only charge at 7.5w with MagSafe and the new Apple Watch 10 won’t get fast charge too,what a pity
The iPhone gets 15W, but the Charger needs more than 15W to give out that amount. That’s normal. You have to take some losses into account. This Charger does not charge the iPhone 15 more quickly.
Exactly. Maybe if it was wired then the power loss would have been a lot less. Then it would be closer to the actual rated value.
I don’t think the new charger is actually charging the older phone at greater than 15W. It’s likely that in order to push 15W of wireless charging it takes ~18.5W of line power because of losses due to wireless charging (and why you need a charging brick 5W more than the MagSafe charging speed)
The older charger possibly wasn’t getting up to full speed for some reason or another. Still great to see someone testing it out though!
It charges my iPhone 10 Xs Max and my Galaxy S20 Ultra
It is so annoying, because apparently you need to buy these new MagSafe chargers if you want to charge iPhone 16 pro series at 25w speed, but I bought anker cube that is like $100+. At least they did not make a newer Apple Watch charger for faster speed.
@@Antt28It’s not. The actual phonecharger connection is controlled by the phone - which requests the amount of power it wants the charging coil to push. The iPhone 15 MagSafe can only request up to 15W anyway.
The new MagSafe charger can supply up to 25W to any phone that is capable of requesting it. Current Qi2 devices are also only able to negotiate up to 15W.
I’m surprised it’s not widely known that wireless have energy loss. The heat on the coil comes from energy and it’s “loss” since it doesn’t goes into the battery.
perhaps apple is grilling old phones to degrade the battery.
or the tech is actually better and more efficient. we would need a heat test!
Just because the charger is pulling 18W doesn’t mean the phone is charging 15W, in fact I’m 100% sure it isn’t.
Wireless charging is very inefficient compared to just plugging the phone in.
Correct. Energy loss through heat is the main culprit.
Is it worse to charge your iPhone with MagSafe charger rather than cable. I’ve always used a cable but considering getting a MagSafe stand as I can limit to 80% and it gives me standby mode
It’s about time they made all their charging cables braided.
Cables in general, hopefully no more frayed chargers.
I think over almost 8 years, I went through three chargers for my 2015 MacBook Air at about $80 apiece.
It was a crime guving and selling limited use cables for years.
Right. Braided nylon should have been the standard years ago. Rubber cables shouldn't even be made, let alone sold.
Glad someone actually tested it. Thanks
To be honest, I am happy that there is a 2 meter version already.
Just a small correction, 1:51 for iPhone 12 mini it’s up to 12W charging power, not 15W.
Also forgot to mention that the new MagSafe puck is noticeably slimmer than the old MagSafe puck
didn't notice until after oddly. normally I check those things, but didnt notice for sme reason.
@@zollotech Is it significantly slimmer than the previous one? Can you reply with the difference in thickness? I am starting to think my MagSafe puck stand won’t work with the new charger 😭
@@alienhunter4870hey, it will, but it won’t be tight….
@henl6553 do you know what the exact depth dimension of the new version is? The older one was 5.5mm. Thanks!
guess cook focus of cost cutting strikes again
This is very helpful, thanks. And thank you for switching the temperature units from Fahrenheit to Celsius 🙂
You can’t use the power consumption of the wireless charger as the input to the phone. A lot of that is dissipated as heat.
Ankers Qi2 charger requires 20 watts but only charges the iPhones at 15 watts.
Hi! What about thermals difference when charging with 15w old charger? Is 16 pro max significantly cooler?
on my 16 pro max with the new MagSafe puck and 30w apple charger its going so slow not 25w, usb c is much faster, whats happening
I still use the MagSafe Duo charger and love it
I’m SO used to Apple 20w Charger ya! They are quick and decent charging tbh!
Thank you for linking the meter to Amazon!
Adapter supplies ~20W to charge the battery at ~15W. The reason for the higher draw are efficiency loses due to heat.
Thank you for checking the temperatures!
Are they the same dimensions? or do i need to track down and buy an older one for a dock?
If you account for the efficiency and losses, the USB-C side will draw more than actually arrives at the phone.
Estimated 80% efficiency (stretching it a lot, usually worse) at 15W is an additional 3W = 18W power draw
What I find more interesting though is the comparison with the old model, actually using much less than the 15W 😅
Can we update MagSafe accessories to the 25W??
Great video Aaron. Keep it up!
6:04 Winding the cable in this way may create a coil effect
Thank you. Outstanding comparison
We need to see this test again when the 16 officially comes out lol
Glad they finally got a bump in the wireless speed. By the time iphone 17 comes out, im sure brands like ESR will have a good cooling solution for this new charging speed.
Great Video!
It is probably not just temp but also how much charge it has. I notice my watch will charge pretty quickly to 90% and it will really slow down to charge the last 10%
Definitely it’s both
@@zollotechdefinitely, LiIon batteries will only charge at max speed under 30% usually to not stress the battery too much. Of course this is in the hands of the manufacturer to decide.
Thank you for showing us 😊 0:43
Do you need to force the new braided model to get 25w MagSafe? Or will the older model still work if you were to buy an iPhone 16
Will work at 15w. You wouldn't need more anyway because of heat.
Thanks for the test Aaron! I'm pretty sure the same charging watts is applied to older iPhone models and not greater when ur on the iPhone 16
Aaron do you think the iPhone 15 Pro max will be able to handle 18.1 with AI without having the new improved thermals? another overheat from software issue?
What about the charge speed with the 20w finaly ?
This model duel brick or even the compact version. If you use one plug you get full 30v? Or if I say plug in MagSafe in one slot then my AirPods via USB C cable in the second slot. Is both drawing 30 or does it become 15/15
does it still fit with the forte iphone stand? ive seen reports it smaller than the old puck but zollo said nothing else has changed but the cable
Awesome video
Does it still leave a mark on the cases from the overheating?
MagSafe just leaves marks. I’ve never used a MagSafe charger, but my MagSafe pop socket leaves hella indents
Aaron, I’m hearing that the new phones, Pro Max, charge at 45 watts. What Apple is available for the new phone? I’m only seeing a USB cord is coming in the box.
The fact that these phones get hot while wirelessly charging is one of the reasons why I don’t wirelessly charge. Batteries don’t like heat.
True but for myself I don’t mind the extra convenience of not having to plug my phone in every time if it means sacrifice battery longevity. I don’t mind spending the $60 to replace the battery every two years. Now I don’t have the headache of worrying about battery longevity and turning off a bunch of background settings.
It’s also convenient because the plug breaks or get dust in them
Very informative.. gona need a part 2 when you have the iPhone 16
I got this with the new 30w plug for my iPhone 16 Pro is this ok to use or should I just use the normal 20w and type c cable for heat issues?
What temperature does the back of the phone reach when charging with a cable?
When charging with MagSafe should you take it out of the case or leave it in the case?
When do we think Qi 3 will receive a speed bump
Thanks that was very helpful I'm not a fan of braided cable at all I will pay more for a non braided cable if it gets a little dirty I can wipe it off braided just continues to get dirtier
Thanks for all the work you put in your videos
When will this be usable? If you’re at your desk all day up to 15W is enough. Quick charge I prefer cable a 30 watt adapter will deliver 27.5?
are both of the magsafe charger pucks the same size?
The new ones are a little thinner
@@MattAwad oh thank you!
hi aaron, may i know the model number of the new magsafe charger? the apple store gave me A2140 model and they assure me it's latest model. The cable is not braided so thinking they gave me old model. :(
The new 25watts is likely a perks in power electronics, allowing higher switch speed, thus, higher induction efficiency.
I might use one for my Android phone.
You left the screen on?? If so, this video is meaningless because the screen being on would slow down the charge rate by a significant factor and it would also create a lot of heat which would further slow the charger down.
Thanks for sharing. Blessings
What are the differences in dimensions old vs. new?
Please test it out when you get the iPhone 16 pro
How long is that Apple cable? I'm pretty happy with the 6.5 feet from my OtterBox charging puck.
I remember hearing when the puck first came out it actually charged iphones at about 18 watts maximum.
I have the new MagSafe charger and it’s not fast charging my iPhone 16 Pro Max, I also have a 45 W power source
same its slow, I dont get whats happening
Please also mention your ambient temperature.
74 Fahrenheit
can test with qi2 other brand?
please test this out on the iphone 16pro when you get one
The new MagSafe charging speed on the phone is enabled by denser charging coils in the iPhone 16 line, so obviously it won't be the same for the older models.
I still use my 15w MagSafe Apple charger but I might buy the new 25w MagSafe charger just to be future proof ready for wherever I buy the next iPhone.
good to see this new one 👌🏼
Hi can you tell me if they changed the size off this new charger?
The puck is slightly thinner
How hot does the back get with usbc to usbc cable at 30w?
I love how the Anker Nano 35 w charger is so much smaller then Apples charger
I gave up using wireless chargers for my iPhone 15 due to heat. Will only use wired from now on.
What's the size?
Will a MagSafe Duo Charger charge a 16 pro max
Just like a lot of other comments are saying... The speed you measure on the wire is not the speed that goes into the phone since there's a lot of power loss with wireless charging.
Wireless charging is still a very bad way to charge your phone because of the power loss and more importantly the high heat generated.
It will degrade the battery much faster and take longer. And it's not even convenient since you still need to pull on it to detach the magnet!
Thank you! Will wait excitedly for versions of 25W from other manufacturers, like Anker 😊
The magsafe produced in Europe is marked with 15V3A. Does it mean that it can achieve higher charging power in subsequent software updates?
I would want to see the same test done on the iPhone 16 pro max
I wonder if you could get to over 20w if you charged it in a cooler to keep it from heating up.
I would imagine that because they only sell the new one you are probably ok to use it on older phones. If there was a thermal issue they would only list the new one as compatible with the 16 series.
Aaron what u say on new watch ultra 2 black?
Will the new MagSafe work with an iPhone SE 2 gen
Won’t magnetically stick to it that’s for sure
Kindly ask you to check how this new
Apple wireless charger is displayed in the settings
The old MagSafe is on sale. I’m thinking about picking it up, is it worth it?
I stopped using wireless charging definitely not good for the battery.
I still just use my 5w brick and charge over night, really save the battery longevity
i have lots of people claim this but my battery percentage is much better then them after a year and i charge at the max 27w on my 15 pm with a 67w brick
@@MRandomClips it varies, you probably just use your phone a lot less than they do. It's proven that heat destroys batteries, and charging with a 5W brick doesn't generate any. There's just no reason to fast charge overnight.
@@Tectosaurus its more important to not drop it below 20 and not go above 80 then the speed you charge it
😂😂 ☠️I laugh “5w brick” what is 2012 you pay for expensive phone to charge it slow F that if you can pay for it you can get battery replacement which not expensive
@@bigmaxcc there’s literally no point in fast charging overnight, you’re sleeping lol. And some people keep their phones 3-4 years. The quickest I could get a battery replacement is 2 weeks, I can’t go without a phone that long so keeping my battery healthy is a must.
Why there is no any RUclipsrs show tell about wired charging speed for iphone 16 series 😢
Plug to mac to see if there’s any update
I am still thinking about buying this new one for my bedroom to charge for my old 2 year’s old iPhone 12 👍🏻
Please test iPhone 16 wired charge speed.
Bro is charging with display on. Of course it going to get hot
The more heat, the faster your battery degrades.
I tired to order one but they are out of stock until Wednesday the 18th :( wow did you get one so fast?
they went up for preorder right after the apple event
@@zollotech
Thanks I was just too late!
I’d rather charge at slower speeds and avoid the heat and battery degradation
Hi, do a 2nd video when iphone 16 comes out. Thanks 😄
Was a little bummed it doesn’t fit in any of my holders cuz it’s thinner and slightly smaller
That’s nice. I will stick with my old one. For some reason my 15 PM doesn’t do optimized charging. Called apple but they were no help.
Very nice review. Wanted to ask. Is the width of the new charger the same as the old; so as to fit in older stands? Like the nomad stand I own?
It is the same width but it is thinner tho so I am not sure than it will go in the stand you bought
Thanks
There is a claim that all iPhone 16 models can charge at an initial rate of 45 watts on a wired USB Type C connection. Try this with Apple's 67 watt adapter and see if that really does happen.
I just got this new MAGSAFE . Anyone know the latest Firmware Ver for this new Magsafe Mine shows Model2580, Firmware 128.0 hardware version REVA
I hope you didn't really leave the screen on the entire time it was charging. That would make the device run even hotter.
So it’s ok to use and your iPhone
I prefer slower/lower temp charging = better for the battery, dissapointed the cable isn't removable.
What about 17.7 is it similar to 17.6.1
Yes
will i get 25w with iphone 15 pro?
Because of the new regulations in China iPhone 16 series will only charge at 7.5w with MagSafe and the new Apple Watch 10 won’t get fast charge too,what a pity