Qi2 is great, but another highlight is that Wireless charging is only useful for overnight charging or while your phone is in your desk at work, not practical for when you need to go out fast, or when you're traveling. Great video!
Have one question I have seen a nice portable anker powerbank that connects via MagSafe meaning no cable. I thought this would be a nice and compatible solution. Do you think it would be better to just stick to a cable one?
@@bassentertainmentstudios1 The question is why do you want to use dual electricity conversion (electricity to electromagnetic field and back to electricity in the phone), creating heat and losing some of the capacity for that? And you also heat both devices at the same time, shortening their lifes. If having a short cable is not an issue, I would not regularly use the wireless changing. Sure, once in a while it is fine, but not regularly.
Your comment makes no sense. You missed the part where you would count the number of times this guy's mind has been blown on your fingers. It's like saying: "...For every time someone called me ugly, I would be a millionaire."
Some people only use MagSafe but every time I do, I get concerned about the heat that occurs and is why I prefer wire charging to maintain battery health.
Wired charging can also heat up your phone and sometimes it seems like even more so when you use fast charging which can peak at 29W with a 15 Pro Max. That's why a lot of people end up using 5W wired charging overnight. If you really care about battery longevity, you should use the 80% limit that Apple finally added just like you have in Electric cars. Keep your battery between 10%-80% and it will last a super long time. I actually did a full video on how to make your battery last a super long time. ruclips.net/video/B-pQd-4imkY/видео.htmlsi=_9zqyGSWS95BgzzN
I just use a wired charger. You have a wire attached to your phone either way, so you might as well have it go directly into your phone rather than inductive charging.
Very interesting! I only use MagSafe charging at night, but during the day, I always plug in directly using the USB-C cable. Wired charging is faster. The one thing I also do is if no one is out of the house, I put my phone on airplane mode that also speeds up the charging.
In my experience (before Qi2) Magsafe was the better choice. I always take care of my battery, but the wireless convenience was something I really wanted to clean up my desk. So I bought a cheap wireless charger with magnets for my iPhone 13 Pro. At that time my battery marked 97%, but in a matter of a month it went down to 93%, and the overheating was insane. That’s when I decided to go with a Built for MagSafe accessory. Using the MagSafe charger didn’t degrade my battery any longer and three months later I still had the same 93% battery health.
@@yuding237 True but wireless Qi1 charging is way less efficient than magsafe. Same experience with my old iPhone X, I ruined a battery in just over a year (from 100% to 82%)
Usually charge via my Ugreen 65watt charger usb c to lightning for faster charger, do have the magsafe but usually use it if i needed the lightning port for headphones for games. Wired charging still the go to for me. Mag safe is just for in case scenario.
I have a 15W Samsung charging pad for my venerable S22 Ultra. I never let the phone get to zero, but the for topping off or charging while I'm doing other things, it's great. It's actually attached to a 25W convertor, which works 90% as good as a full 45W convertor for wired charging, but if I really need the phone charged quick or it's very low (15-20%), I just pop the cable from the USB-C connector right on the pad and go wired into the phone. No, none of that cool (?) magnetic nonsense, but whadda ya want, magnets or your phone charged fast?
This is what i was thinking but couldn't find online. So the phone stays absolutely cool during the night? Is 5 watt not too little? With losses about 3 watt enters the phone. I thought maybe the phone needed a minimum.
@@josmau12 yes absolutely cool. Absolutely quiet. Doesn't seem to be any minimum there, indeed charges very slowly. My pro max needs like 4-5h I think. So almost the whole night.
The question is how the Anker Qi2 puck compares with the communication to Apple's MagSafe ecosystem because from what I am aware of is that iPhones actually communicate with MagSafe chargers and that MagSafe chargers has firmware that can be updated via the phone when it is on charge. From this I believe that with the iPhones if the internal thermometer s too warm it will tell the Apple MagSafe charger to 'pause' charging, however 3rd party MagSafe chargers don't allow for that so like your thermal camera showed will heat up more which in turn can reduce the life of the battery from overheating whilst charging.
I'd actually like a short cable with my counter setup. That said, what I'm actually looking for is an elegant weighted Qi2 solution which I haven't seen yet.
I'm more than happy with my OtterBox MagSafe charging puck (6 ft. Cable) good strong magnet sticks strong to my iPhone 14 Mous case. I know at first it was something like 7.5 W. That's all Apple allowed from aftermarket MagSafe (from what I understand watching review vids and on the Otterbox box it says "up to 15w") but wasn't there an update in 17.1 or something that allows 15 W now for all the other ones? EDIT: just looked at the box of my OtterBox MagSafe charging puck it's 6.6 feet of cable, metal body, and was only $15 Canadian at Winners or for you south of the border "TJ Max" there is NO WAY im spending $60 CDN on apples when it is only 3 ft.
Looks identical. Of course I will buy Qi2 over MagSaf. I also have to invest in USB-C to USB-C connection cables. USB-C and Thunderbolt 3 are also identical. I have yet to get fast file transfers.
I don’t need to charge my phone quick… for people like me, wireless is fine… I bought anker wireless charger in 2019 for iPhone Xr now continuing it 14 pro, touch wood I probably use it for 17 pro as well… my best purchase 😅
I still avoid wireless charging. Back when I was on Android it destroyed battery life on two phones and vowed to never use it again. I should imagine it’s improved a lot but why shorten a devices life when using a cable is always much quicker and efficient
I use MagSafe charger and it works well enough for me. The iPhone 12 Pro charging port doesn’t work so I use the wireless charging, that’s a good back up until I get it fixed.
My comparison will be like appels and oranges, but I dont think that lithium batterys differ that much, but in electric car world 80-100% will take as long as 20-80% this is because of how hard it is to lithium to go from cathode to anode when aproaching that max charge. It is like parking lot. First the valet can find spot easy but when cars start to pile up it takes longer and longer to find empty spot. And that actually shows in that diagram. Charging slows at end. Ofcourse this is much apparent in fast charging.
If I am picking a charger I may stick with the Apple one. You buy one and you aren't going to change it for a few years unless it breaks. The lower operating temperature and third-party holders support are the selling points for me.
I don't even use my Magsafe charger any longer because I hate how it leaves that imprint on leather cases. So when I got a new Andar leather case for my iPhone I just stopped using Magsafe, its sitting around collecting dust now.
Very little consideration was given to the temperature range presented ans it's effect on battery health. In the future I'd like to see mention of how either one of these chargers will degrade your device faster than a cable. Perhaps a comparison of variables between wireless and cable charging? Unless of course, this oversight stems from a bias toward ad revenue through affiliate links? Hopefully there's more care for the consumer than that.
If you take a phone cooler that uses the Piezo electric plate and stick it to the back of the 15 watt charger and then use this combination to charge the phone, the phone doesn't get hot and it charges even faster.
Now can you compare phone temperatures of wireless charging vs cord. I’ve had many phones over the years and USB-C and Lightning ports never failed me. Other things on the phones will fail before they do. Micro USB on the other hand sucked.
batteries on these phones are so good these days they last all day . So given that in mind I would just use cable that comes with phone and plug it in the USB port that won't cost you absolutely enough nothing . There's no need to buy an additional charger .....
So, they both are equal as far as charging, even with throttling. A more accurate test would be pressing the power button after say, 45 seconds, if iOS allows you to do that. I know you can on Android. That 10.minutes auto startup is just software telling the phone turn on when the battery gets to a certain level. For some reason Anker chose a higher battery charge level before auto starting. It explains the early lead because it got to charge for 8 more. minutes while off. Once thermals kicked in, the iPhone version caught up but they both hit 100 percent. So for half the price you get the same performance, better magnet, longer cord and charging is same as apple. Apple version is slightly smaller. This is why I don't do wireless charging, they can't get the thermals down. The battery throttling and dropping to 8W is due to the laws of thermal dynamics, If you set a battery on a piece of metal that gets to 30°C pretty fast then this is the.best it will get.unoess they figure out how to get. There are 120W phones out there that get a full charge in 15 bto 20 minutes. Yes, that would be some very unique android phones but they exist, charge that fast, and STILL have better thermals. Same is true for Android, which is why I gave up wireless charging. Compared to a 30W to 60W which is just a low/high android value value for android phones (not sure what latest iPhone does but it's probably around 45W), when using the included charger. So outside having one next to your bed to charge overnight, I would always use wired because of the ridiculous amount of time to get to a full charge for the minor convenience of not having to plug in a USB C or lightning cable on 1 or 2 year old iPhones. Wireless charging isn't new and the fact that throttling down to 8W due to heat around 30 percent just means it's not going to get much better. At least for a few more years. It's been proven that wireless charging causes thermal issues quicker compared to wired. I think when wireless charging first came out 5 to 7 years ago the first wireless charger did 5W with no throttling and now we are up to 15W and 8W at 30 percent. . They could do 30W if they wanted but then throttling would kick in at probably 10 percent or lower so it's pointless. Heat is absorbed into your battery causing it to heat much faster than a charging vs getting vs at least 30W or more, with some throttling kicking in maybe at 80 percent, maybe slightly lower. If you're worried about heat making your battery not holding a charge over time due to heat then sticking it on a magnet attached directly to the battery that gets to 35°C is the absolute worst route to go. With that said, for the most part overall battery life is really a matter of dumb luck. Plenty of people have battery issues , in rare occasions maybe in less than a month and thermals aren't the issue... Lithium ion batteries aren't all equal, one will hold a slightly higher amount of power than the same battery that comes off the manufacturing line after it. That's just how lithium ion batteries work. Some also slip through QA and get out into the wild which is a scenario where you would have issues in under a month. At the end of the day battery life is a crapshoot. Extreme overheating will make them die faster but any phone in probably the last 7 years handles thermals through software so you phone will throttle if charging and the battery gets roughly 35°C no matter how it's charged.
I used wireless extensively on my iPhone 14. It fried the battery. I used a 5W brick with the MagSafe cable and would leave it overnight. Only been using cable with my 15 Pro, it’s resulting much better.
iFixIt did a test for wired vs wireless charging. Even with wired charging, we lost 35% of energy already. Wireless charging lost 35% more, so 70%. And that's MagSafe where the coil is aligned. Out of alignment, and it will take 104% more power (slightly more than double) to charge a phone. People, please, go back to wired charging. Faster, longer battery life, better for environment. Just plug it in, even the Airpod, just plug it. Apple Watch is kind of no choice, so..
Speed and temperature of Qi2 and Magsafe look to be statistically unsignificant, buying one or another will not affect the phone in any way different than the other option 🤨 still, nice video comparison
I wonder why anyone complains about the massive „energy loss“ due to heat compared to wired charging. Imho wireless charging is only good for cars and other paces where you drop your phone conveniently.
i'm not sure, but they saying around you can only get 15watts from the Magsafe, when using genuine apple 20w power adapter. When you're using even strongers power adapters, you will be limited to around ~10watts... Apple's things ............
Spot on assessment. I was an annual pass holder for many years. Went every week for dinner at least. Prior to that, I used to go once a year from around age 7. Used to spend every birthday there. Guess what? I haven’t been to a Disney park since BEFORE 2019. Their cost kept going up, the value kept going down and I just gave up on them and started going to other theme parks instead. I thought about going when Rise opened. But the lottery system to ride was a complete deal breaker for me, and to this day I still have never rode it or even walked Galaxy’s Edge. Considered going again for Runaway Railway but nope, lottery again. So Disney has lost an absolute huge amount if business from me. No food. No merchandise. No passes. No tickets. The only slight thing they get is my restaurant visits to Downtown Disney. Why? Because I don’t have to enter a lottery to try something new!!
30°C is the temperature your battery will begin to degrade faster, so it sounds like wireless charging is just a waste. More energy used, less energy transferred, battery degrades faster and it takes longer than a standard connection to charge. It's fun, but wireless charging isn't practical yet
Magsafe charging just generates too much heat. After using magsafe charging for a couple of days, I noticed a consistent 1% battery health loss each day, which was quite concerning. Unfortunately, I had to stop using it. it's a shame because i really like wireless charging, but it seems to have some issues.
I used my OtterBox MagSafe charger for about two months straight on my 7 month old iPhone 14. there's more heat at first but after it slows down around 80% and then it runs a lot cooler, my battery health after seven months is 99%
@@MaxTechOfficial I picked up one of these from Amazon the other day. It appears to look identical to the original Halolock version but per ESR support, model 2C522E, is the updated version. I also get the charging ring when it is attached and supposedly that implies MagSafe or QI2 charging. Would you be concerned about using this charger with an iPhone 15 Pro Max? I was also considering the Peak Design charger but that uses the older QI standard. Thanks!
You sure that 30w plug is the smartest thing to use? What PDO’s does the 7.5W puck support? I assume it it something like 5V@1.5A in a PD 2.0 standard which might have impacted how much wattage was flowing as it reverted to 5V@1A. It makes sense for 15W to be supported as 5V@3A is a common support for any PD power brick.
Sorry, but your heat pics are ridiculously misleading. There is only a ~ 2° difference between the hot and cool one - which in fact is almost nothing, at least nothing worth mentioning for battery life
You have no idea what your blabbing about. 1-2 degrees is actually VERY SUBSTANTIAL in the world of “Chemistry” go read a book. The current lithium ion tech is extremely fragile despite what manufacturers say. That’s why we see Teslas exploding while parked at least once a month. In phones they won’t explode but it absolutely means the difference between a phone lasting 1-2 years versus 4-5 years.
How is it misleading? The heat difference might only be 2 degrees but do you even see how much more spread out on the phone the Qi2 charger applies? A 2 degree difference is also more significant than you think. You can have a fever by literally the difference of 0.1 degree. 😂
This is a terrible experiment. You need to test each wireless charger with each phone at minimum while trying to keep other things like room temperature consistent. This will give you better numbers. The MagSafe and Qi2 may go back and forth. Having said that, point taken that they are basically same for the prices. Let’s pray they don’t get rid of the direct plug charge before wireless is up to snuff…
They really have to improve this 60% efficiency for wireless charging. They should have never done Qi charging and instead done the pins like the iPads have. Same thing functionally
In my testing, MagSafe got 75% efficiency based on the wattage its outputting compared to the wattage the battery is taking (using an app that calculates all of this). So its definitely better than older wireless chargers since the coils are perfectly aligned. But yes it would be nice to have faster speeds and better efficiency.
Samsung phone now support 45W charging from the very same cable, Apple ask you to pay extra to get a new Qi2 magsafe charger while still talking 7.5W or 15W, not to mention the energy loss. Good job Apple good save to the planet.
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Hi, what screen protector do you use?
Qi2 is great, but another highlight is that Wireless charging is only useful for overnight charging or while your phone is in your desk at work, not practical for when you need to go out fast, or when you're traveling.
Great video!
Have one question I have seen a nice portable anker powerbank that connects via MagSafe meaning no cable. I thought this would be a nice and compatible solution. Do you think it would be better to just stick to a cable one?
@@bassentertainmentstudios1it will be more healthy for you battery to use a cable for sure
@@bassentertainmentstudios1 The question is why do you want to use dual electricity conversion (electricity to electromagnetic field and back to electricity in the phone), creating heat and losing some of the capacity for that? And you also heat both devices at the same time, shortening their lifes. If having a short cable is not an issue, I would not regularly use the wireless changing. Sure, once in a while it is fine, but not regularly.
It's horrible for overnight charging due to that heat coefficient degrading the battery life at a much faster rate than a wired connection
If I could count the amount of times this guys mind has been blown I’d have 1000 fingers.
Your comment makes no sense. You missed the part where you would count the number of times this guy's mind has been blown on your fingers. It's like saying:
"...For every time someone called me ugly, I would be a millionaire."
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@@Omega-EP you are of course, 100% correct. Don’t post while drinking kids. I’d love to say I’ve learnt my lesson but it will probably happen again.
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@@Omega-EP on one hand. 🖐️
Some people only use MagSafe but every time I do, I get concerned about the heat that occurs and is why I prefer wire charging to maintain battery health.
Wired charging can also heat up your phone and sometimes it seems like even more so when you use fast charging which can peak at 29W with a 15 Pro Max. That's why a lot of people end up using 5W wired charging overnight. If you really care about battery longevity, you should use the 80% limit that Apple finally added just like you have in Electric cars. Keep your battery between 10%-80% and it will last a super long time. I actually did a full video on how to make your battery last a super long time. ruclips.net/video/B-pQd-4imkY/видео.htmlsi=_9zqyGSWS95BgzzN
Magsafe isn't charging technology, it's a ring of magnets that holds accessories in place
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I just use a wired charger.
You have a wire attached to your phone either way, so you might as well have it go directly into your phone rather than inductive charging.
I miss videos like this from Maxtech. Good job 👏 👍
Definitely, I’m not a fan of the constant rumour video’s, but I do like their testing
Very interesting! I only use MagSafe charging at night, but during the day, I always plug in directly using the USB-C cable. Wired charging is faster. The one thing I also do is if no one is out of the house, I put my phone on airplane mode that also speeds up the charging.
Would love to see the usb-c fast charging cable on both a high power usb wall plug and an old 5w charger performance on that same graph!
In my experience (before Qi2) Magsafe was the better choice. I always take care of my battery, but the wireless convenience was something I really wanted to clean up my desk. So I bought a cheap wireless charger with magnets for my iPhone 13 Pro. At that time my battery marked 97%, but in a matter of a month it went down to 93%, and the overheating was insane. That’s when I decided to go with a Built for MagSafe accessory. Using the MagSafe charger didn’t degrade my battery any longer and three months later I still had the same 93% battery health.
The battery degradation happens the quickest at the beginning of owning your phone btw
@@yuding237 True but wireless Qi1 charging is way less efficient than magsafe. Same experience with my old iPhone X, I ruined a battery in just over a year (from 100% to 82%)
@@martinpavy4025 that's true
Yeah, my 14 Pro is down to 91%. I've been using a cheap triple charger and I'm afraid I may have screwed myself.
Usually charge via my Ugreen 65watt charger usb c to lightning for faster charger, do have the magsafe but usually use it if i needed the lightning port for headphones for games. Wired charging still the go to for me. Mag safe is just for in case scenario.
Seems like a small miss not testing the new puck, that is capable charging 25W with the new iphone 16s + a 30W adapter.. please test this next!
How would the ESR fan cooling tech compare to these three? No throttling and cooler phone means faster charging?
I have a 15W Samsung charging pad for my venerable S22 Ultra. I never let the phone get to zero, but the for topping off or charging while I'm doing other things, it's great. It's actually attached to a 25W convertor, which works 90% as good as a full 45W convertor for wired charging, but if I really need the phone charged quick or it's very low (15-20%), I just pop the cable from the USB-C connector right on the pad and go wired into the phone. No, none of that cool (?) magnetic nonsense, but whadda ya want, magnets or your phone charged fast?
A minute and a half to even turn the phone on? As someone who never uses wireless charging, that sounds insane to me.
Why not try a wireless charger with built-in fan
Use the 5w apple brick to wirelessly charge at night 👍
Stays cool and the coil doesn't make any noise.
The 5w charger uses USB A, MagSafe uses USB C?
@@Tectosaurus meant normal wireless chargers where you usually have a usb port.
For Magsafe charger wouldn't work yeah, maybe with an adapter.
This is what i was thinking but couldn't find online. So the phone stays absolutely cool during the night? Is 5 watt not too little? With losses about 3 watt enters the phone. I thought maybe the phone needed a minimum.
@@josmau12 yes absolutely cool. Absolutely quiet. Doesn't seem to be any minimum there, indeed charges very slowly.
My pro max needs like 4-5h I think. So almost the whole night.
@@daniel_960_ alright. I'll order a 5 watt powerbrick. Thank you
Thanks! Wondering how does a case influence the heat
Does the heat actually will afect the batery long term? also how is the wireles heat compare to plug cable fast charging?
The question is how the Anker Qi2 puck compares with the communication to Apple's MagSafe ecosystem because from what I am aware of is that iPhones actually communicate with MagSafe chargers and that MagSafe chargers has firmware that can be updated via the phone when it is on charge.
From this I believe that with the iPhones if the internal thermometer s too warm it will tell the Apple MagSafe charger to 'pause' charging, however 3rd party MagSafe chargers don't allow for that so like your thermal camera showed will heat up more which in turn can reduce the life of the battery from overheating whilst charging.
I'd actually like a short cable with my counter setup. That said, what I'm actually looking for is an elegant weighted Qi2 solution which I haven't seen yet.
I'm more than happy with my OtterBox MagSafe charging puck (6 ft. Cable) good strong magnet sticks strong to my iPhone 14 Mous case. I know at first it was something like 7.5 W. That's all Apple allowed from aftermarket MagSafe (from what I understand watching review vids and on the Otterbox box it says "up to 15w") but wasn't there an update in 17.1 or something that allows 15 W now for all the other ones?
EDIT: just looked at the box of my OtterBox MagSafe charging puck it's 6.6 feet of cable, metal body, and was only $15 Canadian at Winners or for you south of the border "TJ Max" there is NO WAY im spending $60 CDN on apples when it is only 3 ft.
Looks identical. Of course I will buy Qi2 over MagSaf. I also have to invest in USB-C to USB-C connection cables.
USB-C and Thunderbolt 3 are also identical. I have yet to get fast file transfers.
Qi 1 chargers are not created equal. I use a ugreen 7.5w magnetic charger and it doesn’t run hot when using.
I don’t need to charge my phone quick… for people like me, wireless is fine… I bought anker wireless charger in 2019 for iPhone Xr now continuing it 14 pro, touch wood I probably use it for 17 pro as well… my best purchase 😅
How can you make a video about tech and still only use the imperial system. I have no idea what 6 feet means or 3 football stadium length.
I use a belkin magsafe stand, i only charge at night. I love not using cables, it just pops on and does it’s thing when I’m sleeping.
I still avoid wireless charging. Back when I was on Android it destroyed battery life on two phones and vowed to never use it again. I should imagine it’s improved a lot but why shorten a devices life when using a cable is always much quicker and efficient
Bc if you’re without power it’s useful
quality testing
I use MagSafe charger and it works well enough for me. The iPhone 12 Pro charging port doesn’t work so I use the wireless charging, that’s a good back up until I get it fixed.
What was the name of the MagSafe stand?
Thanks for the comparison. Now Tores has a 15W magsafe charging stand (with a cooling system). Wondering if you are going to test it.
Interesting. What about those mfm certified 15w wireless chargers?
Could you please do a test comparing the iPhone's temperature when charging wirelessly vs through USB C at different wattages?
what charging brick brand is that?
My comparison will be like appels and oranges, but I dont think that lithium batterys differ that much, but in electric car world 80-100% will take as long as 20-80% this is because of how hard it is to lithium to go from cathode to anode when aproaching that max charge. It is like parking lot. First the valet can find spot easy but when cars start to pile up it takes longer and longer to find empty spot. And that actually shows in that diagram. Charging slows at end. Ofcourse this is much apparent in fast charging.
If I am picking a charger I may stick with the Apple one. You buy one and you aren't going to change it for a few years unless it breaks. The lower operating temperature and third-party holders support are the selling points for me.
It only seems useful for dash mounts or those little power banks that just stick to the phone
QI2 is useful and convenient in a vent carmount. If not, you can use the cable.
I don't even use my Magsafe charger any longer because I hate how it leaves that imprint on leather cases. So when I got a new Andar leather case for my iPhone I just stopped using Magsafe, its sitting around collecting dust now.
If you’re interested I. Giving it away I would take it. Lol
do the chargers make an indent on iphones with cases? like leather case or silicone… is it better to take it off ?
Very little consideration was given to the temperature range presented ans it's effect on battery health. In the future I'd like to see mention of how either one of these chargers will degrade your device faster than a cable. Perhaps a comparison of variables between wireless and cable charging? Unless of course, this oversight stems from a bias toward ad revenue through affiliate links? Hopefully there's more care for the consumer than that.
If you take a phone cooler that uses the Piezo electric plate and stick it to the back of the 15 watt charger and then use this combination to charge the phone, the phone doesn't get hot and it charges even faster.
Still can't get over how big the camera lenses have grown since the iPhone 11 lineup😅
Yes, that freaking weird.
@@awwwtomotive yup getting better camera is weird. We should have thicker phone instead fr
Now can you compare phone temperatures of wireless charging vs cord. I’ve had many phones over the years and USB-C and Lightning ports never failed me. Other things on the phones will fail before they do. Micro USB on the other hand sucked.
That seems to be the story for Anker products. The heat management isn't the greatest. The only exception is my 3-in-1 Cube from Anker.
can anker also charge samsung s24?
How does the heat compare to wired charging?
Good review but shouldnt of bothered even comparing the 7.5w in the test.
batteries on these phones are so good these days they last all day .
So given that in mind I would just use cable that comes with phone and plug it in the USB port that won't cost you absolutely enough nothing . There's no need to buy an additional charger .....
Would have been prudent to separate the wireless chargers more to eliminate even minimal potential interfernce between them.
So, they both are equal as far as charging, even with throttling. A more accurate test would be pressing the power button after say, 45 seconds, if iOS allows you to do that. I know you can on Android. That 10.minutes auto startup is just software telling the phone turn on when the battery gets to a certain level. For some reason Anker chose a higher battery charge level before auto starting. It explains the early lead because it got to charge for 8 more. minutes while off. Once thermals kicked in, the iPhone version caught up but they both hit 100 percent. So for half the price you get the same performance, better magnet, longer cord and charging is same as apple. Apple version is slightly smaller.
This is why I don't do wireless charging, they can't get the thermals down. The battery throttling and dropping to 8W is due to the laws of thermal dynamics, If you set a battery on a piece of metal that gets to 30°C pretty fast then this is the.best it will get.unoess they figure out how to get. There are 120W phones out there that get a full charge in 15 bto 20 minutes. Yes, that would be some very unique android phones but they exist, charge that fast, and STILL have better thermals. Same is true for Android, which is why I gave up wireless charging. Compared to a 30W to 60W which is just a low/high android value value for android phones (not sure what latest iPhone does but it's probably around 45W), when using the included charger.
So outside having one next to your bed to charge overnight, I would always use wired because of the ridiculous amount of time to get to a full charge for the minor convenience of not having to plug in a USB C or lightning cable on 1 or 2 year old iPhones.
Wireless charging isn't new and the fact that throttling down to 8W due to heat around 30 percent just means it's not going to get much better. At least for a few more years. It's been proven that wireless charging causes thermal issues quicker compared to wired. I think when wireless charging first came out 5 to 7 years ago the first wireless charger did 5W with no throttling and now we are up to 15W and 8W at 30 percent. . They could do 30W if they wanted but then throttling would kick in at probably 10 percent or lower so it's pointless. Heat is absorbed into your battery causing it to heat much faster than a charging vs getting vs at least 30W or more, with some throttling kicking in maybe at 80 percent, maybe slightly lower.
If you're worried about heat making your battery not holding a charge over time due to heat then sticking it on a magnet attached directly to the battery that gets to 35°C is the absolute worst route to go. With that said, for the most part overall battery life is really a matter of dumb luck. Plenty of people have battery issues , in rare occasions maybe in less than a month and thermals aren't the issue... Lithium ion batteries aren't all equal, one will hold a slightly higher amount of power than the same battery that comes off the manufacturing line after it. That's just how lithium ion batteries work. Some also slip through QA and get out into the wild which is a scenario where you would have issues in under a month. At the end of the day battery life is a crapshoot. Extreme overheating will make them die faster but any phone in probably the last 7 years handles thermals through software so you phone will throttle if charging and the battery gets roughly 35°C no matter how it's charged.
I used wireless extensively on my iPhone 14. It fried the battery. I used a 5W brick with the MagSafe cable and would leave it overnight. Only been using cable with my 15 Pro, it’s resulting much better.
iFixIt did a test for wired vs wireless charging. Even with wired charging, we lost 35% of energy already. Wireless charging lost 35% more, so 70%. And that's MagSafe where the coil is aligned. Out of alignment, and it will take 104% more power (slightly more than double) to charge a phone. People, please, go back to wired charging. Faster, longer battery life, better for environment. Just plug it in, even the Airpod, just plug it. Apple Watch is kind of no choice, so..
Speed and temperature of Qi2 and Magsafe look to be statistically unsignificant, buying one or another will not affect the phone in any way different than the other option 🤨 still, nice video comparison
I think charging process have to be slow for battery health especially at night while I'm sleeping.
did you turn off ‘optimised battery charging’ in the iphones before the test?
it wouldn’t make a difference anyway
I wonder why anyone complains about the massive „energy loss“ due to heat compared to wired charging. Imho wireless charging is only good for cars and other paces where you drop your phone conveniently.
Thank you this is good to know
i'm not sure, but they saying around you can only get 15watts from the Magsafe, when using genuine apple 20w power adapter. When you're using even strongers power adapters, you will be limited to around ~10watts... Apple's things ............
Spot on assessment. I was an annual pass holder for many years. Went every week for dinner at least. Prior to that, I used to go once a year from around age 7. Used to spend every birthday there. Guess what? I haven’t been to a Disney park since BEFORE 2019. Their cost kept going up, the value kept going down and I just gave up on them and started going to other theme parks instead. I thought about going when Rise opened. But the lottery system to ride was a complete deal breaker for me, and to this day I still have never rode it or even walked Galaxy’s Edge. Considered going again for Runaway Railway but nope, lottery again. So Disney has lost an absolute huge amount if business from me. No food. No merchandise. No passes. No tickets. The only slight thing they get is my restaurant visits to Downtown Disney. Why? Because I don’t have to enter a lottery to try something new!!
The wireless 50W AirVOOC is over two years old now and still beats most wired speeds of 45W (max). In 2024, a super slow 15W is unacceptable.
Need to c results compared with qi15w vs qi2 15w
30°C is the temperature your battery will begin to degrade faster, so it sounds like wireless charging is just a waste. More energy used, less energy transferred, battery degrades faster and it takes longer than a standard connection to charge. It's fun, but wireless charging isn't practical yet
I think MagSafe is hot, but there are other wireless chargers that are hotter than Apple's MagSafe. So, I don't regret buying Apple's MagSafe.
MagSafe only charge with 15w if u use an apple 20w adapter, otherwise only 10-11w
Really informative, thank you.
Mine says its charging but my battery isn’t increasing at all
Magsafe charging just generates too much heat. After using magsafe charging for a couple of days, I noticed a consistent 1% battery health loss each day, which was quite concerning. Unfortunately, I had to stop using it. it's a shame because i really like wireless charging, but it seems to have some issues.
I have used MagSafe charging 99% of the time on my launch day 15 Pro Max and it’s still on 100% health.
I used my OtterBox MagSafe charger for about two months straight on my 7 month old iPhone 14. there's more heat at first but after it slows down around 80% and then it runs a lot cooler, my battery health after seven months is 99%
thanks for the info!
35w brick? 15w magsafe + 15w qi2 + 7.5w qi = 37.5w?
The charging bricks are 30w, not the power strip output. Each charger has access to 30w for an upper limit of 90w.
How about magesafe 25W
ESR didb Q2 charger too) i would love to hear your opinion about it!
They're great! Their new Qi2 car charger is awesome!
@@MaxTechOfficial I picked up one of these from Amazon the other day. It appears to look identical to the original Halolock version but per ESR support, model 2C522E, is the updated version. I also get the charging ring when it is attached and supposedly that implies MagSafe or QI2 charging. Would you be concerned about using this charger with an iPhone 15 Pro Max? I was also considering the Peak Design charger but that uses the older QI standard. Thanks!
That good info thanks 👍😎
What is the band of ur apple watch?
Looks like the nomad titanium band
Belkin?
Anker makes a new slim version that’s Qi2.
It’s because Apple learned from the air power disaster that heat dissipation matters a lot
In Sweden the cost is more or less the same for MagSafe and anker…
I'd buy the Apple cable over the others if they just made it in black.
You sure that 30w plug is the smartest thing to use? What PDO’s does the 7.5W puck support? I assume it it something like 5V@1.5A in a PD 2.0 standard which might have impacted how much wattage was flowing as it reverted to 5V@1A. It makes sense for 15W to be supported as 5V@3A is a common support for any PD power brick.
Set a water bottle on the phone while charging. It will keep the temperature below 30c which means it will never throttle.
I gladly bought the new Qi2 MagSafe
Sorry, but your heat pics are ridiculously misleading. There is only a ~ 2° difference between the hot and cool one - which in fact is almost nothing, at least nothing worth mentioning for battery life
You have no idea what your blabbing about. 1-2 degrees is actually VERY SUBSTANTIAL in the world of “Chemistry” go read a book. The current lithium ion tech is extremely fragile despite what manufacturers say. That’s why we see Teslas exploding while parked at least once a month. In phones they won’t explode but it absolutely means the difference between a phone lasting 1-2 years versus 4-5 years.
How is it misleading? The heat difference might only be 2 degrees but do you even see how much more spread out on the phone the Qi2 charger applies? A 2 degree difference is also more significant than you think. You can have a fever by literally the difference of 0.1 degree. 😂
@@D8099.This guy definitely has an engineering background
You’re ridiculously misleading!
Better charge via cable
When was the last time you expected something from Apple? "We expected this..." It seems you never expected anything from them.
MagSafe is actually very efficient.
If it could charge Apple Watch, it would make sense
37 Celsius is heating ? That’s why we people now a days keep holding it on hand instead of putting it in jeans 😂
This means MagSafe is more efficient than qi2 for some reason.
This is a terrible experiment. You need to test each wireless charger with each phone at minimum while trying to keep other things like room temperature consistent. This will give you better numbers. The MagSafe and Qi2 may go back and forth. Having said that, point taken that they are basically same for the prices. Let’s pray they don’t get rid of the direct plug charge before wireless is up to snuff…
Nice bro
cool video, I'm hella broke - can't afford the best one, sadness
They really have to improve this 60% efficiency for wireless charging. They should have never done Qi charging and instead done the pins like the iPads have. Same thing functionally
In my testing, MagSafe got 75% efficiency based on the wattage its outputting compared to the wattage the battery is taking (using an app that calculates all of this). So its definitely better than older wireless chargers since the coils are perfectly aligned. But yes it would be nice to have faster speeds and better efficiency.
Coming in 2025,
All the Samsung Galaxy S25 lineup should have the Qi2 wireless charging capability.
Summary : buy Apple charger, I here to save your time
They are not identical one of them was a different color than the other one that’s definitely not the definition of identical😢
100% ripping you off
(sent via my iphone, about to pick up my ipad, and instead opening my macbook)
Samsung phone now support 45W charging from the very same cable, Apple ask you to pay extra to get a new Qi2 magsafe charger while still talking 7.5W or 15W, not to mention the energy loss. Good job Apple good save to the planet.
Don’t care about MagSafe, just charge with usb c done
Its surprising if it didnt surprise you.