Thank you guys for talking about inner healing. It has helped me so much after growing up in an evangelical tradition. "Religion is for people who fear hell, spirituality is for people who have been through hell." I was sold Fire insurance and sin management in church and it did not help me during any crisis that I was going through. But going through crisis and suffering with God's help has grown my ability to be empathic and compassionate to others. Cling to Jesus. Love God, Love Others, Demonstrate Jesus are the commandments I strive to live by each day. And yes, I still sin, but I know that I have a relationship with a kind, merciful and forgiving God. Blessings. Keep up the good work. It is needed.
I greatly relate to this guys story. I’m fully out but still struggling with how to deal with being Christian and being sexual without shame. I used to be evangelical and now am a progressive spiritual Christian. I found an Elca church I love and am fully embraced with.
I ove the loving self and loving others. Being accepting of my sexuality and not ashamed of wanting to be with a man. Being with a woman felt wrong. I’ve had a couple of relationships with men that felt right. Love the gun to your head analogy. I went through exodus programs too and watched it create so much promises it didn’t fix. It created destructive shame. I still believe in Jesus.
I haven't deconstructed too much. I still value being a true Christian-I know God loves me, and I try to live the two greatest commandments: love of God and love of neighbour and follow Jesus' example.
Your coming out process, though not something you wanted to go through, can be your greatest treasure. Having to tear down your personality and reform it is an enlightening experience. Something many never realize who they really are.
It really sucks for people who can't come to terms with themselves until 40 or older. It's like, how do we ever have a life?!? I envy people who can do it in their 20s.
This is a great resource for gay people facing the challenges you've all faced and come through with such positive attitudes. As a lifelong atheist, I will say no more about that except I'm heartened you all can embrace and encourage the good in your religion.
As a 63-year-old white woman in Texas in the south being knowing I was born gay and I'm still gay and went through all this how dare parents do that to your child if you love your child let them go let them choose don't shame them into a life that you want for your own appearance of righteousness sake that is the epitome of not a condition it's conditional love we supposed to love our children unconditionally and it may be hard but you should seek help instead of put your child in a box cuz it's damaging and believe me people that's made it to my age have lots of trauma so let your children choose a spouse it's lonely out here. And I'm in a heterosexual marriage but we don't even sleep together as of 30 years because I can't change but I will not lie but we're best friends and it's working but this is the rare thing if it ever but at least we keep each other company but it's not the right thing to do and we're both honest about that Don't go this way. Find you someone to love and quit listen to straight people who are probably gay people in the closet in the church or either there other people lying we have to learn to start telling the truth. if God can handle our truth the world should be able to handle our truth. ❤🏳️🌈🙏😇
I sometimes wonder how many people were actually taught what "the eye of a needle" actually means. It makes more sense once you learn about city defense 2000 years ago.
Well, I’m sure this episode and story was good, I had to turn it off after about 10 minutes. I couldn’t handle almost every other word being “like.” I hope that does not sound judgmental-at the same time it was driving me nuts. Granted that’s a short trip, but I hope you might know what I mean.
Andy Stanley's church was North point is North point or he was at North point look up North point close enough I'm a grandma a dictate everything with no commas or punctuations. 😊
Try praying the ROSARY everyday, if needed, 2X, 3X a day I promise your sexuality will not occupy your mind at all, all your attention will go to God and you become at peace.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life Romans 1:26-27 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
Scripture quoters do it to avoid dealing with their own journey with God. It becomes trite and lacks human genuineness. My experience from being one. ❤
@@massagewerks1734 I’m sorry you feel that way. But just so you know, as a Christian I’m allowed to speak on sin and call it out for what it is. I’m also allowed to share the Gospel. In fact, the Bible tells us to share the Gospel with everyone.
Thank you guys for talking about inner healing. It has helped me so much after growing up in an evangelical tradition. "Religion is for people who fear hell, spirituality is for people who have been through hell." I was sold Fire insurance and sin management in church and it did not help me during any crisis that I was going through. But going through crisis and suffering with God's help has grown my ability to be empathic and compassionate to others. Cling to Jesus. Love God, Love Others, Demonstrate Jesus are the commandments I strive to live by each day. And yes, I still sin, but I know that I have a relationship with a kind, merciful and forgiving God. Blessings. Keep up the good work. It is needed.
Thank you for this channel. I am not alone in my journey of faith and healing. God bless :)
I greatly relate to this guys story. I’m fully out but still struggling with how to deal with being Christian and being sexual without shame. I used to be evangelical and now am a progressive spiritual Christian. I found an Elca church I love and am fully embraced with.
I ove the loving self and loving others. Being accepting of my sexuality and not ashamed of wanting to be with a man. Being with a woman felt wrong. I’ve had a couple of relationships with men that felt right. Love the gun to your head analogy. I went through exodus programs too and watched it create so much promises it didn’t fix. It created destructive shame. I still believe in Jesus.
You can be LGBT and Christian 👨❤️👨
I haven't deconstructed too much. I still value being a true Christian-I know God loves me, and I try to live the two greatest commandments: love of God and love of neighbour and follow Jesus' example.
True Christian might not be what Christ wants of us.
@@massagewerks1734 Perhaps, perhaps not. Poor choice of words with "True Christian;" however, following Jesus' example wth love begets love.
I feel like I'm listening to these interviews too quickly, I need to slow down and digest it ... These are so good
Matt you helped me today. Thank you and God bless you. God loves us exactly as we are.
Your coming out process, though not something you wanted to go through, can be your greatest treasure. Having to tear down your personality and reform it is an enlightening experience. Something many never realize who they really are.
Thank you so so much! ❤
It really sucks for people who can't come to terms with themselves until 40 or older. It's like, how do we ever have a life?!? I envy people who can do it in their 20s.
Age 65 and keeping to myself was so sad and the Gay did not go away. 😢 Still waiting !😮
Thank u for your hearts, willingness and courage to have these conversations and share your stories. God bless and keeep you all. 🙏 ❤
This is a great resource for gay people facing the challenges you've all faced and come through with such positive attitudes. As a lifelong atheist, I will say no more about that except I'm heartened you all can embrace and encourage the good in your religion.
As a 63-year-old white woman in Texas in the south being knowing I was born gay and I'm still gay and went through all this how dare parents do that to your child if you love your child let them go let them choose don't shame them into a life that you want for your own appearance of righteousness sake that is the epitome of not a condition it's conditional love we supposed to love our children unconditionally and it may be hard but you should seek help instead of put your child in a box cuz it's damaging and believe me people that's made it to my age have lots of trauma so let your children choose a spouse it's lonely out here. And I'm in a heterosexual marriage but we don't even sleep together as of 30 years because I can't change but I will not lie but we're best friends and it's working but this is the rare thing if it ever but at least we keep each other company but it's not the right thing to do and we're both honest about that Don't go this way. Find you someone to love and quit listen to straight people who are probably gay people in the closet in the church or either there other people lying we have to learn to start telling the truth. if God can handle our truth the world should be able to handle our truth. ❤🏳️🌈🙏😇
I sometimes wonder how many people were actually taught what "the eye of a needle" actually means. It makes more sense once you learn about city defense 2000 years ago.
FYI - The audio at the beginning was fine.
What are the Richard Rohr and Jedidiah Jenkins books you guys are referring to?
loved this conversation
Can you put a link to those books he mentioned?
Well, I’m sure this episode and story was good, I had to turn it off after about 10 minutes. I couldn’t handle almost every other word being “like.” I hope that does not sound judgmental-at the same time it was driving me nuts. Granted that’s a short trip, but I hope you might know what I mean.
I love your show! Not wanting to be critical, but the bright window makes it difficult to see you.
It’s a lovely room but they need some help with the lighting. I think some front lighting to balance out the window would be good.
The scapegoat theory look up Renee Gerard
Memetics theory the scapegoat theory looked that up. He was a philosopher.?
Went to conversion therapy with Matt. Small world..
Another example (how could it be any different,) than how poisonous religion is. Why do you believe in something that cannot show itself to be true?
What a pity. Matt looks like he would have been quite the dish in his 20's. Happy to see him happy with himself now.
He's still quite the dish now!
Andy Stanley's church was North point is North point or he was at North point look up North point close enough I'm a grandma a dictate everything with no commas or punctuations. 😊
He is so McSteamy.
Try praying the ROSARY everyday, if needed, 2X, 3X a day I promise your sexuality will not occupy your mind at all, all your attention will go to God and you become at peace.
How did I trigger RUclips to recommend me these 100 sub podcast with the wiredest names and general concepts?
and you'll probably get more now that you are interacting with them lol
John 3:16
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life
Romans 1:26-27
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
Dear God, grant me the serenity to accept the people I cannot change, the courage to change the one I can, and the wisdom to know that one is me. ACA
@@lorettacrooms4398 2 Timothy 3:16
All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
Scripture quoters do it to avoid dealing with their own journey with God. It becomes trite and lacks human genuineness. My experience from being one. ❤
@@massagewerks1734 I’m sorry you feel that way. But just so you know, as a Christian I’m allowed to speak on sin and call it out for what it is. I’m also allowed to share the Gospel. In fact, the Bible tells us to share the Gospel with everyone.
Examine the log in your own eye. You’re allowed to but not all things edify. Are you a Pharisee?