What an excellent video! My guess is that Antlerboy guy you mention allows for events to start an otherwise impossible run. Pokewalker routes seem to be considered encounter routes where one can get the first legitimate encounters. But hey, you explained it a lot better. Love the thoroughness! Bravo!
I mean for Meatball I remember getting into an argument with him about the water run on G/S, he wrote it as impossible as I explained “You can just barely make it to Faulkner with rage stats and minimum battles if you skip sprout tower” and he finally made it from impossible to an black one. Also for story nuzlockes I love Flygons, he really loves to tell an story with his baby Locke, the Spheal team 6 run, and his runs using region evil team grunt’s pokemon
There's quite a few runs that you have to bend rules one way or another to complete, but how you bend them is what makes those runs interesting. Big fan of Flygon's videos! I'm not usually into a lot of the story-telling to be honest, but it's still something I admire when he can take the run and turn it into something almost completely different. Plus he's just a cool guy.
THIS is what mono types are really about. Super limited encounters, odds stacked against you with terrible type match-ups and the strategies to make it happen. Awsome work, can't wait to check out more of your content.
Goddamn, that intro was great, we all agree that people should just play the way they want, but... there's something so endearing about nerding out over a spreadsheet and trying to make it into actual research, isn't there?
I fond it a bit funny that in the table it says “there’s no dark types in FR/LG”, but says there are steel. Yes there’s magnemite for steel, but (via trading) eevee can evolve into umbreon, and failing that, Murkrow is in fire red.
Eevee can't evolve into espeon/umbreon in FRLG, iirc. The day night cycle doesn't work, and even if it did, you can't get johto pokemon until you get the national dex. Thats why it says "none." You can't organically get dark types in the game. The whole point of the mono type nuzlocke.
@@HandsomeLongshanks if trading is allowed, you could trade eevee to another FR/LG game, trade That to RSE evolve to umbreon. Then trade back, right? It would be finnicky but possible before the first gym as to trade you’d only need a second pokemon?
@@KuulpbObnoxiously enough, No. FR and LG have an annoying mechanic where they can't trade outside of each other until after receiving the national dex and completing a post-game quest to allow trades to Gale of Darkness, Coliseum, Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald. Maybe, one could breed an eevee in an already completed file, transfer, evolve to umbreon, transfer back, and then trade to a new copy of FR presuming national dex mechanics don't stop it.
I felt the same way about a lot of monotype runs as you did at the beginning. The early research/planning sections made this a lot more interesting than I ever would have expected. Great video
So this inspired me to take a look and a crack at one of these. (I also do a lot of challenge runs but never did a monotype) and G/S Grass is possible but extremely unlikely without RNG manipulation. You get a Chikorita and Bellsprout and you need near perfect DVs in HP, DEF, and Special on both of them (Chikorita needs 12+ HP, 10+ DEF, and preferably 8+ Special; Bellsprout needs 8+,12+,13+ respectively) Then you can take down the first gym trainer with the level 9 speaow with both pokemon at 8 (still with a lot of luck) with both pokemon holding a berry with the sequence; Chikorita: Growl, Growl, Growl, Razor Leaf, Switch. Bellsprout: Growth, Growth, Vine Whip, Vine Whip. IF you got the 8+ Special on Chikorita 2 of those 3 attacks have to crit. Under 8 and both Vine Whips have to crit, and the spearow has to never crit. Both pokemon have to survive because otherwise you will over level from the second gym trainer (Who is totally free but the exp he gives forces us to not be able to sack). Then for Falkener the Pidgey is mostly a freebee, and Pidgeotto can be taken down the same way as the first Spearow (still with the required crits on your end and no crits of falkners end) This also needs 4 berries so you have to start near midnight to get the berry trees to reset since you'd only have 3 by this point in game otherwise. So yeah, not impossible, just very, very unlikely.
I think the reason why the G/S Grass one says it's impossible is because one runs out of new Grass encounters about halfway through Johto and several are locked in Kanto. However, I do still think it's doable because: 1. Dupes clause is optional, so you can still catch Exeggcute in many of the areas with no new encounters, and 2. Exp. Share allows to dump points on Pokémon not intended for use in order to avoid overleveling the main party members.
@@LagrimaArdiente I don't do youtube so no recording, but I completed my run of this yesterday (To lance not to red). After the insane luck it takes to beat gym 1 it is a super easy run. And yeah I ran with dupes and after national park there are no more encounters, til post game but that can't be the reason its marked, because dark isn't marked impossible and that is only umbreon until postgame
Isn't there a special event mystery egg that can be bulbasaur in gen 2? I don't know where in game you receive it from but it is on the pokemon center event list, with it starting at level 5.
I very much respect the breakdown of “the line” of what is acceptable and not for “official” runs. Im glad to see these monotype challenges done with clear boundaries set. Maybe the Ice type run can be revisited in the future by the guy who first completed it or by another. I also respect you not using Jirachi, but I feel like Registeel was a totally viable encounter since it isn’t overpowering in any way other than stall. Either way, well done. 👏🏼👏🏼
I originally had this cool idea to split the last half of the run in two, doing it once without Regi and once with him. Footage with him in the Elite 4 even exists! Unfortunately the video was already waaaay longer than I meant for it to be so I had to cut the second run. But I completely agree that we should just start allowing the Regis because they're cool guys.
A run I think would be great is a nuzlocke using unoptimized stats. Physical attackers forced to used Special attacks. Glass cannons being tanks. EV train your babies in their worst stats and use them in that way. I'll even double-dog dare you. And you can NEVER refuse a double-dog dare. Christmas Story told me so.
I feel like there should be a rule that says "If you cannot viably build a team of 6 for the elite four off of encounter rules from traditional Nuzlockes, then remove rules from the ruleset until you can. i.e. removing 1 encounter per route rule, remove species clause, remove legendary clause, etc."
didn't expect such a deep dive into what makes the nuzlocke and all the rules and stuff- very well done! steel is my favourite type so i of course love this run
My also ADHD having ass really enjoyed this run. Your comments and everything about you and the video was very enjoyable, thanks for the video! Eagerly waiting for the next monotype run you publish, id love tobsee you try the other "impossible" types!!
i didn’t see anyone else say it but it looks as if the only two remaining pokemon were the ones you captured 😂 loved the video and the intro was so thought out and researched well
My opinion on what should be allowed: You can get a Scyther for the evolution. No problem in allowing in the catch, but I would say you should not be allowed to use it in battle until it is properly a Steel-type. I'd also rather see a Jirachi from the beginning or Registeel. But the fun part about it being your challenge is you make it what you want. It only becomes a problem when people start claiming technicalities regarding being the first person to do something. If someone doesn't it like it that much, they can become the one who does it.
Pretty much! I personally see Jirachi as an easier answer, but others will see the bugs that way instead, and that's totally okay. The challenge is purely what you make of it!
My boy Registeel deserves more screentime Also the reason Flannery started using tackle is because the gen 3 ai can check if their moves hit or not. And since 1 hp of damage is more than 0, they will use the move that hits.
Honestly, I was too! I find the most joy in these challenges when we can build off of the ideas of others and push them further. It's the best way we can all improve!
Just found your channel for this first time and i am SHOCKED you only have ~4k subscribers. You are making videos that are quality wise on par with creators with 10-100x that number. 🙏 Here's hoping the algorithm blesses you soon.
Love the video and the breakdown leading up to it. I'm a monotype nuzlocker primarily myself, have done all 18 types at least once (sometimes twice) on HC nuzlocke rulesets with a similar set of rules to you. Generally my rule for starters has been if one of the 3 original starters is not the type I'm doing or doesn't become that type down the line, I allow myself to choose one NFE mon of that type in that game's regional dex to choose as my starter, with the stipulation they have to have around a low 400 BST maximum when I pick them up. It's definitely made a lot of runs at least more plausible and also made the early game boss fights not as significant of a coin flip as they can be for some more brutal runs. I also started allowing event mons, pokewalker, dreamworld etc encounters for some runs, but I've gradually leaned into that more as I've done harder and more tight encounter runs.
For example I did BW2 mono rock, allowed myself to use Archen as the starter and then once I unlocked the ability to get dreamworld on a few mons that were in that game's regional dex (Larvitar, Carracosta) I used a third party tool to actually have them appear in the dreamworld with randomized IVs and natures and then used them for that run. I also allow legendaries in my runs but ban any cover legendaries or legendaries that are on par with them
First time on your channel and I gotta say this was an excellent intro! This was so done, the edits were great, and you are so well spoken you got a new sub!
I usually just replace the starter with the latest to find, not legendary pokemon you can get in game or version exclusive of the opposite game, to give that pokemon a chance to actually be used, and not just be fodder for end game next corner lol
Wouldn't the earliest encounter for emerald be jiratchi if we're allowing events? Or do we also disallow legends? Double checked, yeah we're not counting legendaries.
Dude, this was awesome. I’ve liked your stuff for a little while, but I think this might be a new favorite of mine. Also, pikachu nuzlocke! Do it. I’d love to see how you strategize it- it might be fun to take cue’s from Flygon’s Spheal run and give them each an item and egg move.
One of the runs he called impossible, albeit for a different reason, is Gold/Silver with only Water types. Why? Because Totodile literally cannot reach Falkner before he breaches the level cap of 9. But the Gold speedrun fights only mandatory trainers and no wild Pokemon and just barely manages to keep to the level cap of 9 when Falkner is reached. And since Totodile is very easily able to beat Falkner using Rage, the run opens up massively because of the Old Rod.
Currently the spreadsheet only shows G/S Grass run as being impossible due to exp management, but I can see Water having similar issues. There are a lot of generation 2 events though so if you include those it becomes a bit of a walk in the park.
@@keeperplays He must have recently changed it because originally it said Water and Fire were impossible due to Exp management and Grass was impossible outright.
Why? Why did I cried when mercury went down? Why did I remember Silver's and Cooper's sacrifice till the end? And why did I root so much for Cobalt's win? Really an amazing journey, good job!
For a more reliable watson strat, you could teach thief to steal manectrics sitrus berry. Stealing makuhitas sitrus berry from dewford would give you access to them earlier too for the fight.
gen 3 has some amazing music and i love the trumpet :D from the team boss music to the legendary music...specificly ray...to the champion steven theme.
Pikachu Nuzlocke would go very hard, especially if you’re using the event pikachu (maybe one the cosplay/cap pikachu as well depending on generation) and various events to showcase some of the wacky event moves they give it
I think the GSC steel type only run chose Scizor because technically there are 3 "earliest encounters" if you want them to be Steel type. You can first aquire the metal coat from Magnemite on the route to the left of Ecruteak, making Magnemite, Scizor and Steelix all valid as "first encounters" and as a Magnemite supremacist I would argue you should always select Magnemite ETA: I just got to the bit where you sorta addressed that, I fully agree it's 100% players choice here
Right up until you mentioned the japan only distribution event, i was pretty co vinced that this was going to be a run where Jarachi was the main star.
i think if in a Nuzlocke you lost a Pokémon because of Self-Destruct because it not listen to you,it shouldn't count,since that's not your fault,isn't skill issue or because you can't predict your opponent moves,this Pokémon who have that kind of move at least should have 1 extra life if you are playing a Nuzlocke,losing a Pokémon because of that is just unfair to me,it wasn't in your control.
I do completely understand the sentiment behind this, but I think part of the skill expression was finding a way to forget the attack to remove the variable of selecting it, as well as deciding when the risk of using it with the attack is worth it. After all, if using the move gets me a win, like it did against Brawly, then it wouldn't feel like a genuine win to me if I didn't also count the loss that caused it.
About that spreadsheet I noticed that G/S grass is listed as impossible due to not enough encounters and subsequently overlevelling. Me and my bf have been theorycrafting and running the game with save states and we were able to beat Falkner with a little bit of crit dodging and a hell of a lot of exp management. Does anyone know if the run is "impossible" because of Falkner or is it walled at a later point?
If you include events, pretty much every Grass-type is available via an egg distribution so it becomes a non-issue. Outside of that, I haven't looked into it much to know where exactly the roadblock is, unfortunately.
I posted my looking into it too, if I'd have seen yours I'd have put it here, but no, once you beat Falkner you get hopip level 6 + a cap of 16, and you should be able to do the mandatory fights triple switching to stay under cap. It's just the luck for Flakner is insane. EDIT: I've routed further, totally forgot about picking up Oddish or Paras in Ilex pre-Bugsy. I was able to do all optional trainers with EXP to spare. And Bugsy was pretty easy with Acess to Reflect and Powders. And I was able to go straight into Rival 2 with no additional levels and come out deathless. So the only real hump seems to be Abe and Falkner.
TECHNICALLY you could argue that, since you need to trade to a different save file for scizor and steelix, that means that trading with another cartridge is in general inside the rules. Since trading in emerald is available before the first eligible encounter that TECHNICALLY implies that trading with anither cartridge is a viable way to aquire your first pokemon making EVERY steel type pokemon that can be aquired in any of the gen 3 games through any means a TECHNICALLY viable starter. I know this isnt in the spirit of the challenge and rules you set for yourself but its fun to think about
Personally I disagree. I think trade evolutions are cringe and just treat them as item evolutions when I obtain the trade item necessary to evolve them. For standard trade evolutions I just evolve them either immediately or around level 36 (depending on the line and game). The only reason I consider trades at all is just because GameFreak forces them into certain evolution lines. Mostly this is to keep some strategy between which selected version I play for a specific challenge. For example, when I played the F-Tier White 2 run, I chose White 2 specifically because Camerupt was White 2 exclusive. If I allowed trades as you propose, then it wouldn't matter which version I played because I would just give myself a Numel whenever because technically I could trade. This may be moot depending on what events you allow for yourself, but there's also a difference between researching specific events or encounters to start a run with vs "trading" every possible encounter to yourself at the start of the game.
RS Mono-steel should be 100% possible with the wishmaker jirachi from the Colosseum bonus disc (with a bonus of not needing time travel if you can stomach the absurd price they go for) since it provides a level 5 jirachi to the party.
Loved everything about this video. If looking to fill in the board I’d love to see USUM Grass only run. You get loads of encounters but the match ups making it insanely challenging. Doable, but needs some master planning. I managed to get past the totem Marowak but it took so many attempts and planning I didn’t have the motivation to keep going.
@@keeperplays ground is tougher as first and only encounter for the first island kahuna is Diglett which is basically impossible but could give yourself mudkip or turtwig as a starter as they are both catchable via island scan later. Not sure if they’ll be enough to beat Araqunid though as only other encounters by then are Onix and Mudbray. At least with grass there are enough early encounters for cannon fodder.
@@clanedogg1 Oh my god if I can fandangle my way into allowing Turtwig then I am absolutely going to use it for both runs it's too perfect. Alright you've convinced me! I'm going to start plotting this now.
@@keeperplays USUM ground encounters are amazing it’s just the early game that needs some fendangling. Once past araquanid should be a breeze: I’m surprised it’s not been done tbh. E4 will likely be the easiest bit of the challenge with the encounters you have. Grass types however, honestly no idea how on earth you beat Kahili in the E4. It’s a god thing Cradily has shoulders as it’s the only thing that might give a grass run a shot.
I've only just started looking into some things, and I'll tell ya I've already got an idea for Grass vs Kahili - and Cradily isn't the only one the run can rely on. I'm excited about this one!
I appreciate how deep you are questioning consistency of rules. When I do this when I play basketball or monopoly or anything else I just get called autistic lol
I'm a little upset that when i did my steel only playthrough I got no views or anything, but it's to be expected because i have no following at all lol. I'm happy to see someone else going with the steel type, as they are one of my faves. Also, i only had a couple Aron with me when i fought brawly, and omg... it was torture...
LETS GOOOOOO I KNEW THE SPREADSHEET DID SOMETHING GOOD WOOOOOOOOOO
Hell yeah it did my brother
I love a good color coding
Do you have a explanation for the ice type run because I agree with his reasoning here.
I had a feeling another RUclipsr would jump on this with you at some point
For the ORAS Dragon HC Nuzlocke that's uncleared in the spreadsheet: Would I be allowed to just start with Treecko?
I won’t even lie, the way that every single issue was discovered, itemized, and systematically addressed… it is more than impressive. It’s hot
As the hot messiah I have to assume you have authority on these things.
What an excellent video! My guess is that Antlerboy guy you mention allows for events to start an otherwise impossible run. Pokewalker routes seem to be considered encounter routes where one can get the first legitimate encounters.
But hey, you explained it a lot better. Love the thoroughness! Bravo!
Means a lot! Appreciate your kind words, and thank you for helping inspire this video in the first place!
6:05 piplup is not steel type, only empoleon is, meaning, if you can make use of piplup, you can make use of base onix until you get a metal coat.
I mean for Meatball I remember getting into an argument with him about the water run on G/S, he wrote it as impossible as I explained “You can just barely make it to Faulkner with rage stats and minimum battles if you skip sprout tower” and he finally made it from impossible to an black one.
Also for story nuzlockes I love Flygons, he really loves to tell an story with his baby Locke, the Spheal team 6 run, and his runs using region evil team grunt’s pokemon
There's quite a few runs that you have to bend rules one way or another to complete, but how you bend them is what makes those runs interesting.
Big fan of Flygon's videos! I'm not usually into a lot of the story-telling to be honest, but it's still something I admire when he can take the run and turn it into something almost completely different. Plus he's just a cool guy.
THIS is what mono types are really about. Super limited encounters, odds stacked against you with terrible type match-ups and the strategies to make it happen. Awsome work, can't wait to check out more of your content.
Goddamn, that intro was great, we all agree that people should just play the way they want, but... there's something so endearing about nerding out over a spreadsheet and trying to make it into actual research, isn't there?
Exactly this!
Half a history of nuzlocke runs and half a run. Sweet
PIKACHU NUZLOCKE! I see no one else commenting it, so might as well start the train
pikalocke
Pikachu Nuzlocke or Pikachu and pikaclones nuzlocke
There are more than 50 Comments, I expect it by the beginning of next year.
Pickalocke, let's go!!!
Pikachu Nuzlocke
I fond it a bit funny that in the table it says “there’s no dark types in FR/LG”, but says there are steel. Yes there’s magnemite for steel, but (via trading) eevee can evolve into umbreon, and failing that, Murkrow is in fire red.
There's a whole slew of Dark-types available via events too! This run is definitely on my radar.
There’s no day/night cycle in frlg so you can’t actually evolve umbreon and espeon
Eevee can't evolve into espeon/umbreon in FRLG, iirc. The day night cycle doesn't work, and even if it did, you can't get johto pokemon until you get the national dex. Thats why it says "none." You can't organically get dark types in the game. The whole point of the mono type nuzlocke.
@@HandsomeLongshanks if trading is allowed, you could trade eevee to another FR/LG game, trade That to RSE evolve to umbreon. Then trade back, right? It would be finnicky but possible before the first gym as to trade you’d only need a second pokemon?
@@KuulpbObnoxiously enough, No. FR and LG have an annoying mechanic where they can't trade outside of each other until after receiving the national dex and completing a post-game quest to allow trades to Gale of Darkness, Coliseum, Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald. Maybe, one could breed an eevee in an already completed file, transfer, evolve to umbreon, transfer back, and then trade to a new copy of FR presuming national dex mechanics don't stop it.
I knew metal claw wasn’t 100% accurate and nearly bit my phone in half watching you luck out against focus punch over and over 😂
Hehe.
@@keeperplays great video btw, got me subbed!
I felt the same way about a lot of monotype runs as you did at the beginning. The early research/planning sections made this a lot more interesting than I ever would have expected. Great video
Glad to drag you down the rabbit hole with me!
So this inspired me to take a look and a crack at one of these. (I also do a lot of challenge runs but never did a monotype) and G/S Grass is possible but extremely unlikely without RNG manipulation. You get a Chikorita and Bellsprout and you need near perfect DVs in HP, DEF, and Special on both of them (Chikorita needs 12+ HP, 10+ DEF, and preferably 8+ Special; Bellsprout needs 8+,12+,13+ respectively)
Then you can take down the first gym trainer with the level 9 speaow with both pokemon at 8 (still with a lot of luck) with both pokemon holding a berry with the sequence; Chikorita: Growl, Growl, Growl, Razor Leaf, Switch. Bellsprout: Growth, Growth, Vine Whip, Vine Whip. IF you got the 8+ Special on Chikorita 2 of those 3 attacks have to crit. Under 8 and both Vine Whips have to crit, and the spearow has to never crit. Both pokemon have to survive because otherwise you will over level from the second gym trainer (Who is totally free but the exp he gives forces us to not be able to sack). Then for Falkener the Pidgey is mostly a freebee, and Pidgeotto can be taken down the same way as the first Spearow (still with the required crits on your end and no crits of falkners end)
This also needs 4 berries so you have to start near midnight to get the berry trees to reset since you'd only have 3 by this point in game otherwise.
So yeah, not impossible, just very, very unlikely.
My man came with the MATH! Impressive!
I think the reason why the G/S Grass one says it's impossible is because one runs out of new Grass encounters about halfway through Johto and several are locked in Kanto.
However, I do still think it's doable because: 1. Dupes clause is optional, so you can still catch Exeggcute in many of the areas with no new encounters, and 2. Exp. Share allows to dump points on Pokémon not intended for use in order to avoid overleveling the main party members.
@@LagrimaArdiente I don't do youtube so no recording, but I completed my run of this yesterday (To lance not to red). After the insane luck it takes to beat gym 1 it is a super easy run. And yeah I ran with dupes and after national park there are no more encounters, til post game but that can't be the reason its marked, because dark isn't marked impossible and that is only umbreon until postgame
@@LhymeLife I see. 🤔
Isn't there a special event mystery egg that can be bulbasaur in gen 2? I don't know where in game you receive it from but it is on the pokemon center event list, with it starting at level 5.
I very much respect the breakdown of “the line” of what is acceptable and not for “official” runs. Im glad to see these monotype challenges done with clear boundaries set. Maybe the Ice type run can be revisited in the future by the guy who first completed it or by another. I also respect you not using Jirachi, but I feel like Registeel was a totally viable encounter since it isn’t overpowering in any way other than stall.
Either way, well done. 👏🏼👏🏼
I originally had this cool idea to split the last half of the run in two, doing it once without Regi and once with him. Footage with him in the Elite 4 even exists! Unfortunately the video was already waaaay longer than I meant for it to be so I had to cut the second run.
But I completely agree that we should just start allowing the Regis because they're cool guys.
@@keeperplays from an editing standpoint, I totally understand. From a viewer standpoint, I woulda enjoyed every extra minute of it lol.
@@aizakkurhoads7527 Maybe I can edit something short for it and get the footage up as a bonus!
@@keeperplays I would def watch this
Pikachu Nuzlocke would be hilarious, I'd love to see it. Bonus points if you do it in Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire because of Cosplay Pikachu.
Copper taking one for the team was true cinema ngl. What a truly epic sacrifice.
yeah, to bad this is gen three or his sturdy would have saved him
A run I think would be great is a nuzlocke using unoptimized stats. Physical attackers forced to used Special attacks. Glass cannons being tanks. EV train your babies in their worst stats and use them in that way. I'll even double-dog dare you. And you can NEVER refuse a double-dog dare. Christmas Story told me so.
This feels like a step up from my 0 IV/EV run and I am so down.
I feel like there should be a rule that says "If you cannot viably build a team of 6 for the elite four off of encounter rules from traditional Nuzlockes, then remove rules from the ruleset until you can. i.e. removing 1 encounter per route rule, remove species clause, remove legendary clause, etc."
Keeper: "We can hold out!"
Copper: "We cannot. Take care of the others for me, won't you? Silver, Iron, I do this for you. Yes, even you, Iron."
20 mins in and we aren’t even playing the game yet… yeah this is what I signed up for. Need more poke yappers in my life ❤️
didn't expect such a deep dive into what makes the nuzlocke and all the rules and stuff- very well done! steel is my favourite type so i of course love this run
I personally love monotype runs just in general. Nuzlocke or not. This was a fun watch! Maybe we will see another run like this from you!
Already planning a few more! Can't wait to tackle them.
My also ADHD having ass really enjoyed this run. Your comments and everything about you and the video was very enjoyable, thanks for the video! Eagerly waiting for the next monotype run you publish, id love tobsee you try the other "impossible" types!!
i didn’t see anyone else say it but it looks as if the only two remaining pokemon were the ones you captured 😂 loved the video and the intro was so thought out and researched well
vital throw cant miss so brawlys makuhita was completely unaffected by the accuracy drop
My opinion on what should be allowed: You can get a Scyther for the evolution. No problem in allowing in the catch, but I would say you should not be allowed to use it in battle until it is properly a Steel-type. I'd also rather see a Jirachi from the beginning or Registeel. But the fun part about it being your challenge is you make it what you want. It only becomes a problem when people start claiming technicalities regarding being the first person to do something. If someone doesn't it like it that much, they can become the one who does it.
Pretty much! I personally see Jirachi as an easier answer, but others will see the bugs that way instead, and that's totally okay. The challenge is purely what you make of it!
Pikachu Nuslocke! That's the best idea I ever ear
I was half expecting a silver or soul silver run with onix into steelix to start and go off from there. It does sound fun to watch that next
Maybe in the future!
@@keeperplays well it's a good idea and just realizing how it makes a rock ground or steel run possible within the rules of a nuzlocke
My boy Registeel deserves more screentime
Also the reason Flannery started using tackle is because the gen 3 ai can check if their moves hit or not. And since 1 hp of damage is more than 0, they will use the move that hits.
Chaotic Meatball's a good friend of mine. Glad you were inspired by him.
Honestly, I was too! I find the most joy in these challenges when we can build off of the ideas of others and push them further. It's the best way we can all improve!
Just found your channel for this first time and i am SHOCKED you only have ~4k subscribers. You are making videos that are quality wise on par with creators with 10-100x that number. 🙏 Here's hoping the algorithm blesses you soon.
Love the video and the breakdown leading up to it. I'm a monotype nuzlocker primarily myself, have done all 18 types at least once (sometimes twice) on HC nuzlocke rulesets with a similar set of rules to you. Generally my rule for starters has been if one of the 3 original starters is not the type I'm doing or doesn't become that type down the line, I allow myself to choose one NFE mon of that type in that game's regional dex to choose as my starter, with the stipulation they have to have around a low 400 BST maximum when I pick them up. It's definitely made a lot of runs at least more plausible and also made the early game boss fights not as significant of a coin flip as they can be for some more brutal runs. I also started allowing event mons, pokewalker, dreamworld etc encounters for some runs, but I've gradually leaned into that more as I've done harder and more tight encounter runs.
For example I did BW2 mono rock, allowed myself to use Archen as the starter and then once I unlocked the ability to get dreamworld on a few mons that were in that game's regional dex (Larvitar, Carracosta) I used a third party tool to actually have them appear in the dreamworld with randomized IVs and natures and then used them for that run. I also allow legendaries in my runs but ban any cover legendaries or legendaries that are on par with them
Love this style of content, keep up the good work!
First time on your channel and I gotta say this was an excellent intro! This was so done, the edits were great, and you are so well spoken you got a new sub!
Thank you for the kind words!
I love the transparency and the intro.
Monotype Runs: Easy in theory, hard in practice.
Really interesting how simple concepts can be blown up into huge projects! I really enjoy that aspect of Pokemon.
This video is way too good and the little attention it has surprises me. Congrats on such an amazing video!!
Haha, it's gotten a lot more attention than I could have anticipated! I'm certainly grateful. Thank you!
Love that the first half of the video is just preventive cope. Liked and Subscribed.
Lets make it even better: pichu only nuzlocke
I usually just replace the starter with the latest to find, not legendary pokemon you can get in game or version exclusive of the opposite game, to give that pokemon a chance to actually be used, and not just be fodder for end game next corner lol
That's a cool way to go about it too! Everyone gets a chance.
Love how you did a deep dive rabbit hole just to make this legit in your own terms. That's true dedication
Scizor my GOAT putting in work as always, love to see it
This is the best nuzlocke video I’ve seen in a minute! Way to go dude
Glad you enjoyed!
My bug run in Crystal necessitates a Krabby. No bug type learns Surf in gen 2 and crabs are bugs. Also neither Yanma or Butterfree can learn Fly!
Crustaceans are the roaches of the sea, this is absolutely valid.
your rules are significantly better than whats on the spreadsheet
My favorite part is that meditite fight where you need to hit it when it uses focus punch yet you used a move that is not 100% accurate lol
You cannot make a million dollars. Ever. It's IMPOSSIBLE.
Correct, so we'll settle for $999,999. 😁😁😁
This video totally reignited my interest for nuzlocke run content! Really cool planning to make it a viable run
That's so awesome to hear! Glad you enjoyed!
Nice to see this channel start to rise
man, i rarely take time to listen to lengthy explanations on my second screen but you earned my sub :D
Wouldn't the earliest encounter for emerald be jiratchi if we're allowing events? Or do we also disallow legends? Double checked, yeah we're not counting legendaries.
this is the comment i was looking for.
Pikachu Nuzlocke! In Pokémon Platinum!
Saying you won’t treat us like kids while pretending the Santa Clause is a real thing is some dirty work
I cant imagine this being a problem, Aggron is clearly the best pokemon and should carry the entire game
Dude, this was awesome. I’ve liked your stuff for a little while, but I think this might be a new favorite of mine.
Also, pikachu nuzlocke! Do it. I’d love to see how you strategize it- it might be fun to take cue’s from Flygon’s Spheal run and give them each an item and egg move.
Really glad you enjoyed!
One of the runs he called impossible, albeit for a different reason, is Gold/Silver with only Water types. Why? Because Totodile literally cannot reach Falkner before he breaches the level cap of 9. But the Gold speedrun fights only mandatory trainers and no wild Pokemon and just barely manages to keep to the level cap of 9 when Falkner is reached. And since Totodile is very easily able to beat Falkner using Rage, the run opens up massively because of the Old Rod.
Currently the spreadsheet only shows G/S Grass run as being impossible due to exp management, but I can see Water having similar issues. There are a lot of generation 2 events though so if you include those it becomes a bit of a walk in the park.
@@keeperplays He must have recently changed it because originally it said Water and Fire were impossible due to Exp management and Grass was impossible outright.
this is sick, aggron my beloved, only reason steel types aren't my favourite is because fighting exists
Pikachu Nuzlocke! Sounds ... terrifying lol. Best of luck!
This was an awesome video
Pikachu Nuzlocke!!! Let's goooo!
pikachu nuzlocke good luck buddy
It's like hearing me speak, lmao. Subbed.
Here from ChaoticMeatball's channel; this is going to be a fun video
Why? Why did I cried when mercury went down? Why did I remember Silver's and Cooper's sacrifice till the end? And why did I root so much for Cobalt's win? Really an amazing journey, good job!
Thank you for being along for the ride!
LETS GOOOOO!!! SCIZOR THE GOAT!!!
For a more reliable watson strat, you could teach thief to steal manectrics sitrus berry. Stealing makuhitas sitrus berry from dewford would give you access to them earlier too for the fight.
How have I never thought of Thiefing the Sitrus from Brawly?! Definitely putting that in my back pocket.
gen 3 has some amazing music and i love the trumpet :D from the team boss music to the legendary music...specificly ray...to the champion steven theme.
The Magnemite line is one of my favorites, super cool to see Magneton seal it at the end! Grats!
Pikachu Nuzlocke would go very hard, especially if you’re using the event pikachu (maybe one the cosplay/cap pikachu as well depending on generation) and various events to showcase some of the wacky event moves they give it
Steven Stone!! Put out all the doubt for a 100% complete run!!
...With just an Aggron and Magneton??
I think the GSC steel type only run chose Scizor because technically there are 3 "earliest encounters" if you want them to be Steel type.
You can first aquire the metal coat from Magnemite on the route to the left of Ecruteak, making Magnemite, Scizor and Steelix all valid as "first encounters" and as a Magnemite supremacist I would argue you should always select Magnemite
ETA: I just got to the bit where you sorta addressed that, I fully agree it's 100% players choice here
Right up until you mentioned the japan only distribution event, i was pretty co vinced that this was going to be a run where Jarachi was the main star.
Gotta keep ya on your toes!
PIKACHU NUZLOCKE!
I’ve done the three starter types, flying, and dark now in Emerald and honestly you’d be surprised how hard every run besides water was.
As I'm now looking into Dragon and Ice... No, yeah, I believe you. Steel is going to look so tame in comparison.
Thanks for the fun and passion. ^^
Awesome video! You've inspired me to help fill out the spreadsheet! Also Do a Pikachu Nuzlocke! lol
Alright! I challenge you to knock out the Rock-type DP space! Bonus points if you use Rampardos. Good luck!
@@keeperplays Oh jeez I'll see what I can do lol
You can DO IT. BELIEVE!
pikachu nuzlocke! this was such a cool and in depth video, really engaging to watch :)
Mono COSPLAY PIKACHU RUN. Let the costumes run free!
Pikachu Nuzlocke plz!
I don't watch this stuff, but i really enjoyed this amd watched it through.
I'm glad you did!
i think if in a Nuzlocke you lost a Pokémon because of Self-Destruct because it not listen to you,it shouldn't count,since that's not your fault,isn't skill issue or because you can't predict your opponent moves,this Pokémon who have that kind of move at least should have 1 extra life if you are playing a Nuzlocke,losing a Pokémon because of that is just unfair to me,it wasn't in your control.
I do completely understand the sentiment behind this, but I think part of the skill expression was finding a way to forget the attack to remove the variable of selecting it, as well as deciding when the risk of using it with the attack is worth it. After all, if using the move gets me a win, like it did against Brawly, then it wouldn't feel like a genuine win to me if I didn't also count the loss that caused it.
Commenting for the algorithm gods to boost this channel
About that spreadsheet
I noticed that G/S grass is listed as impossible due to not enough encounters and subsequently overlevelling. Me and my bf have been theorycrafting and running the game with save states and we were able to beat Falkner with a little bit of crit dodging and a hell of a lot of exp management. Does anyone know if the run is "impossible" because of Falkner or is it walled at a later point?
If you include events, pretty much every Grass-type is available via an egg distribution so it becomes a non-issue. Outside of that, I haven't looked into it much to know where exactly the roadblock is, unfortunately.
I posted my looking into it too, if I'd have seen yours I'd have put it here, but no, once you beat Falkner you get hopip level 6 + a cap of 16, and you should be able to do the mandatory fights triple switching to stay under cap. It's just the luck for Flakner is insane.
EDIT: I've routed further, totally forgot about picking up Oddish or Paras in Ilex pre-Bugsy. I was able to do all optional trainers with EXP to spare. And Bugsy was pretty easy with Acess to Reflect and Powders. And I was able to go straight into Rival 2 with no additional levels and come out deathless. So the only real hump seems to be Abe and Falkner.
big props to you for not using the collo bonus disc event for the jirachi
SPREADSHEET? Well damn maybe I should attempt my first nuzlocke video too
Do a Pikachu Nuzlocke in ORAS with all 5 Contest Pikachu (and 1 regular ofc)
Oh this is a good idea!
@@keeperplays 5 contest Pikachus and the final being a regular pika evolved into a Raichu just for an electric boss feel.
Ooooh a new keeper video!
Edit: May I comment “pikachu Nuzlocke” 50 times?? Would that count?
Tempting...
Pikachu nuzlocke? 👀 I like that idea, the gyarados only run from flygon was really fun
I would personally say your starter should be some combination of the earliest possible obtainment and the closest stats to a starter.
TECHNICALLY you could argue that, since you need to trade to a different save file for scizor and steelix, that means that trading with another cartridge is in general inside the rules. Since trading in emerald is available before the first eligible encounter that TECHNICALLY implies that trading with anither cartridge is a viable way to aquire your first pokemon making EVERY steel type pokemon that can be aquired in any of the gen 3 games through any means a TECHNICALLY viable starter. I know this isnt in the spirit of the challenge and rules you set for yourself but its fun to think about
Personally I disagree. I think trade evolutions are cringe and just treat them as item evolutions when I obtain the trade item necessary to evolve them. For standard trade evolutions I just evolve them either immediately or around level 36 (depending on the line and game). The only reason I consider trades at all is just because GameFreak forces them into certain evolution lines.
Mostly this is to keep some strategy between which selected version I play for a specific challenge. For example, when I played the F-Tier White 2 run, I chose White 2 specifically because Camerupt was White 2 exclusive. If I allowed trades as you propose, then it wouldn't matter which version I played because I would just give myself a Numel whenever because technically I could trade.
This may be moot depending on what events you allow for yourself, but there's also a difference between researching specific events or encounters to start a run with vs "trading" every possible encounter to yourself at the start of the game.
i want to see a pikachu clone nuzlocke
You know what, i enjoy your content so I'm jumping on this train. Granbull nuzlocke! Woops, meant to say Pikachu nuzlocke
RS Mono-steel should be 100% possible with the wishmaker jirachi from the Colosseum bonus disc (with a bonus of not needing time travel if you can stomach the absurd price they go for) since it provides a level 5 jirachi to the party.
That narration is great
Would love to see a pikachu nuzlocke
PIKACHU NUZLOCKE litsrally just the prep for this run at the start won me over as a viewer
Loved everything about this video. If looking to fill in the board I’d love to see USUM Grass only run. You get loads of encounters but the match ups making it insanely challenging. Doable, but needs some master planning. I managed to get past the totem Marowak but it took so many attempts and planning I didn’t have the motivation to keep going.
USUM Grass and Ground both need doing... Maybe a double-feature video to knock them both out? Hmm...
@@keeperplays ground is tougher as first and only encounter for the first island kahuna is Diglett which is basically impossible but could give yourself mudkip or turtwig as a starter as they are both catchable via island scan later. Not sure if they’ll be enough to beat Araqunid though as only other encounters by then are Onix and Mudbray. At least with grass there are enough early encounters for cannon fodder.
@@clanedogg1 Oh my god if I can fandangle my way into allowing Turtwig then I am absolutely going to use it for both runs it's too perfect. Alright you've convinced me! I'm going to start plotting this now.
@@keeperplays USUM ground encounters are amazing it’s just the early game that needs some fendangling. Once past araquanid should be a breeze: I’m surprised it’s not been done tbh. E4 will likely be the easiest bit of the challenge with the encounters you have. Grass types however, honestly no idea how on earth you beat Kahili in the E4. It’s a god thing Cradily has shoulders as it’s the only thing that might give a grass run a shot.
I've only just started looking into some things, and I'll tell ya I've already got an idea for Grass vs Kahili - and Cradily isn't the only one the run can rely on. I'm excited about this one!
I appreciate how deep you are questioning consistency of rules. When I do this when I play basketball or monopoly or anything else I just get called autistic lol
I'm a little upset that when i did my steel only playthrough I got no views or anything, but it's to be expected because i have no following at all lol. I'm happy to see someone else going with the steel type, as they are one of my faves. Also, i only had a couple Aron with me when i fought brawly, and omg... it was torture...
Usually not commenting, but a pikachu nuzlocke sounds funny 😂