we carry the 21, and for the last 6 years we train every month and shoot roughly 300 rounds a person ... I could count on one hand how many malfunctions my entire team has had... from stove pipes/double feeds etc... the glock is the weapon you want when shot hits the fan... rain, snow, mud, hands down...
"If you are an owner of either, you are already winning." Exactly! Both are great guns. Use the one that works best for you. I'll stick with my PPQ 45 M2.
Hi Justin, Yes your PPQ 45 trigger was super light too right? I am not complaining.... I like it a bunch along with the other PPQ pistols. 9mm, 40, anyone can pick the pistol that fits them best.... :) Beretta Sr.
+Alexander Riebe that sounds about right...Mine may be 4LBS even. I will have to test it. It sure is a very nice trigger. Thanks for the comment, it is very nice to hear from other owners. Beretta Sr.
@@BERETTA9mmUSA NOT a Glock fan! The PPQ 45 is by FAR, one of the best OTB firearms I've ever shot. The trigger is unmatched among striker-fired firearms. Even better than my PPQ in 9mm, if that's possible. Although my P10c is better. I put an HBI trigger on it.
Stan Robertson We both have a PPQ in 9mm, but Young Beretta likes the PPQ in 45ACP more than I did. He still owns it as of Feb 2020. 🤗🥳😎👍🇺🇸 Beretta Sr.
I have both these guns,and of the two,the PPQ 45 is now my primary.The reset on is is awesome!It does have a little muzzle flip on it,but I can get use to that ease.I still use my Glock 21 often,but the PPQ is always close by,and always at the read.
Both of these 45s are excellent. I own the walther PPQ 45 and my range buddy has the G21. They both are beautiful 45s and shoot insanely well. Great job Walther/Glock!
I owned the PPQ 45, and ended up trading it in. Trigger too lite for my taste, and way too snappy. I just may be an exception, but I prefer the G21. Much smoother recoil (a mild push back as opposed to a uneasy jump with the PPQ. You can see Beretta Jr. adjusting his grip after every shoot.) and I don't mind the stock trigger. I like feeling of hitting the wall. Hardly any wall on the PPQ before pulling the trigger. Take it for what it's worth.
82 Luft I hear ya, I don't know why they made the 45 PPQ lighter.... it really did not need that change from the 9mm PPQ pistols. Yes that PPQ 45 is more snappy IMO too. Beretta Sr.
Subsequent to this video dated May 12, 2016, the Glock 21 now has a redesigned slimer grip. I own the G 21sf, and believe me it's a pleasure to grasp. Quite a mild recoil by the way. It feel as if you're shooting a 9 mm with +P ammo. Love my Glock.
Party Favors My Glock 21 Gen 4 is my issued sidearm, and I own 2 of them personally. I love the Gen 4 Glock 21.... I dig the Walther too, but the Glock 21 is my day to day companion these days as of October 2018, and it is there to save my life if needed. I can't give the G21 a bigger compliment then that. Thanks for watching. Beretta Sr.
Ergonomics, trigger, accuracy, and finally the looks, of the 9mm PPQ won me over the competition (especially the Glock). It's just a newer and more contemporary overall. I've had no reliability issues, albeit only about 200 rds.
Love the Glock 21! Like the 20 better, but I shoot both well. I haven’t had the pleasure to shoot anything from the PPQ line up yet, but I hope to be changing that soon. Thanks for the comparison!
I see a sig p320 45acp in your future. I almost got the ppq 45 a month ago because I love my ppq m2 40 (which flips more than my g23) but passed on it and got a sig p320 instead. The only downside to the Walthers is the muzzle flip and everyone I know who doesn't really care for them is for that reason. The sig has the higher bore axis as well, but manages the recoil/muzzle flip better. Good comparison guys.
I agree with you completely! I need to see if they make the 320 in 45ACP as the Carry and the Compact if so I will have to make a tough decision, or just pay cash for one and Visa for the other. :) Beretta Sr.
Jeremy Jones, I also have the both the Sig p320 full 45 acp, and the P320 full in 9 mm. I couldn't agree with you more regarding a very manageable recoil/muzzle flip. Both the 9 and the 45 are just amazing guns.
I thought the same. Is the ppq that much more unmanagable? Seemed like u had more trouble controlling recoil on ppq. Is it bad? Im considering purchading it next
Nice video. For a recreational rage gun I’d probably go with the Walter but if it’s a go to war shit hit the fan type situation I’d definitely take the Glock. I’ll sacrifice a small amount of accuracy for that Glock reliability
held both at a local gun shop Walther PPQ M2 45 and Glock 21 g4 and Wather PPQ m2 45 wins craftsmanship and ergo quality bought it shot it love scary accurate...
I got my G21 a Phantom adjustable trigger. A Double Diamond Connector, and a titanium safety plunger. Polished all triggers points. It’s now a sub 3lb pull with minimal travel. Ima keepa my G21.
That Walther PPQ 45 is really something! Fast Shooting and the early signs of a tack driver from 10 to 15 yards away. Multi target engagements should be good to go. :). Beretta Sr.
I have the PPQ 9 and 45, stainless steel guide rod with Wilson combat spring, talon grips. Also a PPS with talon grips. These are awesome pistols. Shot my bro's and nephews Glocks and Sig P320 recently, and no way would I trade for any of those. I had a Walther Creed and sold it to buy one of the PPQs, but I believe I will be buying another Creed as I liked that trigger alot also, very smooth.
I've had my PPQ .45 since late last October. 800ish rounds fired, 2 failures to feed with junk ammo and the spring on the slide release came loose once causing the slide to lock open after each round fired but it fixed easily with a quick field strip. Your mileage may vary but I've enjoyed mine immensely.
Jon Cox, if the failures you mentioned happened in a desperate situation, you'd dead by now. Wouldn't happen with the dependable Glock. I find the PPQ (gave up my 9 M2) to be a little too dainty.
I love my Walther ppq .45, I manage to shoot tight groups with it at 27 yards, and I am a 1911 guy who is used to the accuracy of single stag 45s. I can definitely recommend the Walther to anybody who likes 45s, the trigger is just so smooth and the grip feels great to me, they come with 3 different backstraps, so you can adjust it to your hand size. Just give this 45 a try
Personally I love both the Walther and the Glock. I have large hands so the grip swell on the Glock did not bother me at all. Just a note however, the Glock Gen. 4's do come with smaller grip swells. Also, I did cheat a bit. I changed guide rod from plastic to titanium, did some trigger work and got rid of the plastic sights. I also changed all of the plastic pins to the stainless steel pins. On the rail, I added the Strealight TLR-2. Important Note: Before I performed any modifications I noticed quite a bit less muzzle flip on the Glock over the Walther due to the Gen. 4's spring configuration. Nice review and video guys. Don't you just love the steel targets??
one thing of note.. the first shooter had to re-adjust your grip after every shot through the walther and not with the glock.. the lower bore axis is most likely the reason. I have a walther p99 and I love it.
True but he was able to keep a tight group. Even without changing his grip on the Glock his group was looser. Same shooter, different performance. I wish he would have adjusted his grip on the Glock to see if his groups would have been better. When I shoot the Walther PPQ M2. 45acp I don't have to readjust my grip. As you can see from the video neither did Baretta Sr.
+Beretta SR Couldn't agree more. BOTH are great guns. Personally I think the exceptional trigger on the PPQ outweighs the slight advantage the Glock has in recoil and I believe that is probably why your grouping is better with the PPQ.
Good points Sir, we agree. I also really enjoy both pistols.... Nice knockdown power with that 45ACP..... I carry a Glock 30 Gen 4 off duty everyday. Another Great 45 in my opinion. :) Beretta Sr.
If i ever pick up a striker fired 45, it would most likely be the PPQ. I would be tempted by the (hopefully) VP45, but think I'd go PPQ just to vary the stable.
I think you would enjoy the "New Kid" Walther PPQ in 45ACP. It is one of those pistols that I like a little more each time I shoot it. Even with a little more recoil, the PPQ 45 is very enjoyable. Beretta Sr.
All my Glocks go to Cold Bore Customs to get the hump removed and the added texturing. An undercut of the trigger guard as well. Pretty much the only complaints that I have with the Glocks. They feel as close to my 1911 grips as they can. Keep up the honest reviews. I think many people enjoy the "what you like and don't like" about any firearm. Keeps the reviews honest and above reproach..
My SIG P320 Compact in .45 ACP is also very accurate. I did put an apex flat trigger in it and a hogue grip on it. It really takes it to the next level.
Great reviews from both of you over the years. Subbed to your channel today. I thought that I was subbed to it already. I Picked up a barely used PPQ45 today for $496 out the door that included 4 mags trigicon night sights and a kydex holster. What a fun gun to shoot and a great deal that I stumbled upon. Groups shot were very tight at 7 and 10 yards. I'm going back to the range tomorrow to shoot it side by side with my CZ P10c. I love the triggers on both. I think that I would agree with your CZ P10c video that the PPQ trigger is a little better than the P10C's trigger. The reset on my P10C may be slightly better than the PPQ.
If I was a bad guy and encountered this guy and the way he cocked that gun….. that’s scary , I would rethink my options on how accurate he shoots and how fast I can get away.
Thanks very much for staying with us, we appreciate it Sir. We both need to dig into these 45's some more this summer. Enjoy your weekend coming up. Beretta Sr.
Enjoyed seeing the recoil on each of theses with 2 different shooters. That 1st shot with the ppq showed just how much difference there really is in the first shooter. I though it was going to fly out of his hand. I personally think the trigger on the ppq is to light for edc even with mentality and finger control.
I also love the Gen 4 Glocks that you do! We have videos up on all of them I think. Thanks for the Sub! We really appreciate it very much. Respectfully, Beretta Sr.
Glock all thee way. I'm used to the grips and fits my hand just right. With Glock you can upgrade or down grade your barrel to a higher cal or lower mm. You can upgrade your guide rod assembly and grips, not to mention a very light trigger assembly. You can't do that with a Walther. Love my Glocks!!!!
Mr.45 GLOCK Owner Me too Sir! Not this one, as I own 2 Glock 21 Pistols on my own dime. I keep all my Department stuff out of our Channel other then to say I have been active duty for almost 19 years now. I wanted to say "Thank-you for your service Sir, it really is important stuff we do in all aspects of our jobs..... Stay Safe! Beretta Sr.
@@mayukhsen8195 I own Glocks. They're very good guns, but they are not high quality. High quality is not plastic sights, spongy trigger, slick frame, and mediocre slide serrations. If anything, Glocks are very basic. Walther's PPQ line gives you many things Glock does not, which is why I sold my G19 for my PPQ.
@@bronzeguy9839 sights are just fine and dandy mate. My aim with Glock is the best and most perfect. Well, if you are a good shot already, I can promise you that you won't be benefitted by anything more than what's already installed in the glocks. Trigger takes some getting used to, but afterwards it's all good.
I'm probably in the minority, but I've held a Walther PPQ in my hand, and for me at least does not feel right. That's me. I do own a Glock 21 gen 4 and love it. The grip, however, does take getting used to. Like sr. said you must practice with whatever gun to become proficient. As far as the wall & grit jr. mentions about the Glock 21, you can buy a 3.5# disconnector and spring kit relatively cheap to eliminate those issues and lighten the trigger as well. Anyway, love the comparison videos. Keep up the great work. Stay safe guys.
Good comparison review guys. I own both and have to agree the ergos and trigger on the Walther are much better. That being said I shoot them both equally well and won't be getting rid of the 21 anytime soon. Keep up the good work on the videos.
Thanks for the Vid. I have owned G21 and multiple XD Service model .45's. I do want a Walther but can easily tell. The XD shoots vastly smoother and far less muzzle rise than any others discussed. Much less that P320 full size also. IMHO
I took my Ruger SR 1911 45acp and my Walther PPQ 45 and found the PPQ did have a noticeable rise than the Ruger and not as accurate. But the Walther PPQ 45 is a great gun. Maybe I am just more accustomed to the 1911, Thanks for the video
The more videos that are shot with the Glock 21, shows the same effect! And the reason why I prefer not 2 use or have in my name. The Glock 30s and Glock 41 has that stab kick ass recoil, that is natural with a 45 acp! I love, and want that stiff kick from 45's short or long barrel! Great video Beretta 9mm USA.
Supposedly you can use Remington RP45 15 round magazines in the PPQ 45. I have one and it fits pretty flush and locks the slide open. Haven’t made it to the range yet to test, but others have and say it works.
Thanks for the video. I'm debating on my next pistol purchase, with the Walther PPQ in .45 being one of my top two choices. I would have loved to see the Springfield XDm in this comparison as well.
Both are very good, but the Walther PPQ In 45 has a much better trigger then the XDM.... That's just my take, you may like the XDM 45 better, and if so, it is a Great choice. :). Beretta Sr.
Thanks Mr. Davis, we appreciate you subscribing. Lots of videos for you to check out, including the new Top 5 Handguns for 2017. We put allot of work into that one that includes some good shooting action. Take care Rodney. Beretta Sr C 1/9.
primarily referring to the sight picture (too much air between the front post and rear sight) on the ppq. like i said though, that's the only gripe i have about the ppq, otherwise pretty much perfect... actually traded both glocks for a ppq long slide q5 2 days ago...LOL
Dang I'm looking at my first 45 cal purchase I was initially trying NOT to check out the walther 45 because i have a walther pk380 on layaway that I'm picking up in 2 wks and ddnt want to go walther twice in a row but you guys make it sound like its butter so now I'm not sure🤔
I have a Beretta PX4 Storm full size in 9mm. Given the Beretta in your name, I'd enjoy seeing your comparison between the PX4 in .45 versus the Glock 21 and/or Walther PPQ in .45
Check out the Sig P320 Compact in 45. I've had both the Glock and the PPQ and prefer the P320 Compact. It subjective but I find the PPQ trigger insanely light, fine for the range but a little to light for carry.
Thanks Chris. We were just out shooting New Videos at the range today so they will be coming up in October and November 2016. Thanks again for the Sub. Beretta Sr.
Another great video! I've had the PPQ 45 for about 2 months now and love it. Added the stainless guide rod and rubber talon grips - which I think really make the PPQ grip even that much better. I love my glocks but this PPQ 45 is amazing. In fact I just ordered a 2nd one and more mags. My only negative with the PPQ is the trigger - don't get me wrong its great. But man is it light - almost too light I think to make me really comfortable carrying. However, still my first choice for a "battle" 45 pistol.
Awesome video guys! Can't get enough. Young beretta a little hard on the glock 21 haha. But I agree with you both, both great pistols in their own way. Thanks guys for keeping the videos coming.
Thanks my friend.... We will have several more coming this summer. Should be a good year of shooting for sure. Even have a Revolver that I bought that I never thought I would like or buy. Beretta Sr.
Hi guys, the TP9 V2 seems to be the Canik clone of the Walther P99 AS, and the TP9SF the clone of the PPQ. Any chance of you doing a comparison video of the Walthers with their Canik counterparts?
great video I shot a Gloc 40 & shot a 45 over the weekend I like the 45 now just searching for the right 45 I will look into the Walter cause Gloc is the go to just to carry I feel that 45
I wish Walther offeted their PPQ M2 45 In a compact model. The ppq 45 I shot was magnificent thought it did have some jump to it. However almost all 45s have some jump to them, but a well made 45 front sight will drop right back in place. The ppq 45 does just that. I was quickly throwing controlled pairs in the kill zone. It's a fantastic weapon, but I'd like to have one in a more concealed carry size.
I do not think the 45 PPQ gets the respect it deserves, when you consider what the pistol brings to the table for the price you pay to get one. That's just my take on it. It is a very good 45ACP pistol overall. Beretta Sr.
Another excellent vid! Great job. As much as I like (okay love) my PPQ M2 9mm, I'm still on the fence with the PPQ 45. I had an XD-45 (13+1) that I still regret ever selling as it was excellent for me. Zero problems on it. I was stupid to sell it. Got an M&P 45 mid-size and I love that pistol. The only drawback I have on it is that it is 10+1. Otherwise, that 4 inch barrel 45 is a dream to shoot. The PPQ (or any 45 for that matter) has some pretty high standards to meet if I were to get one to go with that M&P. If I have an opportunity to rent a PPQ 45, I will. I've become a huge Walther fan, so I can't deny part of me is tempted.
Good plan. Rent one and bring 200 rounds with you..... You will know after that range trip. I will say I like the Walther 45 more and more as the time and shooting sessions increased over the last 30 to 45 days. :) Beretta Sr.
Love the PPQ trigger n ergonomics But cannot STAND the slickness of the grip But w the addition of a hogue Large handall grip sleeve, I couldn’t imagine a nicer.45 that’s not a 1911
Excellent guns! Thanks for the video. I would like to see you guys doing a comparison video of two or more popular guns shooting from sandbag rests. I think that would be very interesting for me and many other people to watch. Do you shoot .22 pistols? Walther makes a ppq 22 and I heard it was excellent also. Keep up the great videos gentlemen. Thanks again!
PPQ... It's simply an amazing gun, I see many die hard Glock fans ( I own a 17 and a 43) say "Glock is the best!" most likely have never held or fired a Walther. Best for what? Aftermarket parts? I will give you that.. most Glock owners I know invest more in upgrades than they paid for the gun! All guns have there pros and cons, I prefer my PPS M2 over my 43 HANDS DOWN! You will be hard pressed to find a better all around striker fired .45 than the PPQ..no it's not perfect but neither is Glock..looking at his grouping clearly the higher bore of axis was null and void.. and that is the BIGGEST pro the Glock has over the PPQ and as seen here means what?? tighter grouping you would think...don't knock it till you try it.
I'm currently carrying a G21. Now I need that PPQ. My other pistol for edc is my PPQ M2 9mm. They are great guns. I imagine for me the PPQ will outclass my G21 in every way.
I still love that Glock 21 Gen 4. I was just issued a new one and shot a 99.2 on the police qualification course. A new all time high for me. :) Beretta Sr.
@@BERETTA9mmUSA I absolutely love this video!! Walther PPQ looks fantastic so does the G21. In terms of reliability I would definitely trust either pistol with my life!!
XD and XDm also holds 13 and maybe has slightly better ergos than Glock. Also in your video about the "XD-45 DPM" it looks like it has the least muzzle flip of all 3. I would rethink who ist "king of the hill". ; )
Not this year as we have been building AR Rifles and I picked up the Sig 225A1 and the Sig 226 Legion.... Videos will be coming up on them. Beretta Sr.
All well and good Michael, but for a go to war gun, The PPQ's trigger is way to PERFECT, where as the Glock's trigger is better suited for FANBOYS. Fixt.
Question can I rack the slide one handed (PPQ 45) I can do that to my 9mm PPQ okay and my son and I was speaking about 45s and he shot some 45s. I'm not weak I'm pretty strong well anyone would be using one arm for over 20 years.
I'm so glad I don't have the grip issues with the Glock 21 Gen 4 short stubby fingered people do. Otherwise, I'd miss out on the glory of Glock's finest masterpiece.
That is funny that you ask..... Young Beretta and I were just out shooting videos at the range today and I talk about trying to practice shooting with both eyes open. It is a very old habit that is hard to break. Beretta Sr.
I need to try the CZ97 at some point, maybe next year, as I already destroyed my $5K budget for 2016. The Sig 225A1, Sig Legion 226, and a Chiappa White Rhino 4 inch are all coming this Summer. Spoiler Alert! LOL. Beretta Sr.
Great video thanks guys! I recently rented a Glock 17 at the range, and once I learned the sights/trigger I shot it very well. But ergonomics compared to my XD Mod2 service model, left a lot to be desired; I feel like the Walther would be the same. So now I'm like do I go for comfort with more of a learning curve to control recoil, or go where recoil was well managed but it didn't feel quite as good in my hands, making long use problematic/uncomfortable? Decisions, decisions...
I think the added recoil, you can adjust to with the Walther PPQ and it's excellent grip. If you hate the Glock grip, all you can do is add a talon grip tape to it and that will make it a little better, but the grip is the grip. Just my take on these 2 pistols. Beretta Sr.
we carry the 21, and for the last 6 years we train every month and shoot roughly 300 rounds a person ... I could count on one hand how many malfunctions my entire team has had... from stove pipes/double feeds etc... the glock is the weapon you want when shot hits the fan... rain, snow, mud, hands down...
Walther is just as reliable
"If you are an owner of either, you are already winning."
Exactly! Both are great guns. Use the one that works best for you. I'll stick with my PPQ 45 M2.
Nobodys Business I love my G30S and G21 but the PPQ .45 is next.
PPQ ALL DAY.... EVEN THO I CURRENTLY OWN THE G21
Great video as always guys! The trigger on that Walther is insane even by PPQ standards - we agree on that for sure!
Hi Justin, Yes your PPQ 45 trigger was super light too right? I am not complaining.... I like it a bunch along with the other PPQ pistols. 9mm, 40, anyone can pick the pistol that fits them best.... :) Beretta Sr.
+BERETTA9mmUSA mine pulls at 4.2 lbs. feels better than some after market triggers I have on Glocks. not sure how walther did that.
+Alexander Riebe that sounds about right...Mine may be 4LBS even. I will have to test it. It sure is a very nice trigger. Thanks for the comment, it is very nice to hear from other owners.
Beretta Sr.
@@BERETTA9mmUSA NOT a Glock fan! The PPQ 45 is by FAR, one of the best OTB firearms I've ever shot. The trigger is unmatched among striker-fired firearms. Even better than my PPQ in 9mm, if that's possible. Although my P10c is better. I put an HBI trigger on it.
Stan Robertson We both have a PPQ in 9mm, but Young Beretta likes the PPQ in 45ACP more than I did. He still owns it as of Feb 2020. 🤗🥳😎👍🇺🇸
Beretta Sr.
I have both these guns,and of the two,the PPQ 45 is now my primary.The reset on is is awesome!It does have a little muzzle flip on it,but I can get use to that ease.I still use my Glock 21 often,but the PPQ is always close by,and always at the read.
I think the walther is a better gun than Glocks overall...but it does boil down to which one you shoot better.
You think correct.. Walther is a legend...Both Walther and SIG is better than Glock which is a little overrated..
"Im not intentionally trying to jerk the trigger" lmfaoooo u guys are honest i like it
Both of these 45s are excellent. I own the walther PPQ 45 and my range buddy has the G21. They both are beautiful 45s and shoot insanely well. Great job Walther/Glock!
I owned the PPQ 45, and ended up trading it in. Trigger too lite for my taste, and way too snappy. I just may be an exception, but I prefer the G21. Much smoother recoil (a mild push back as opposed to a uneasy jump with the PPQ. You can see Beretta Jr. adjusting his grip after every shoot.) and I don't mind the stock trigger. I like feeling of hitting the wall. Hardly any wall on the PPQ before pulling the trigger. Take it for what it's worth.
82 Luft I hear ya, I don't know why they made the 45 PPQ lighter.... it really did not need that change from the 9mm PPQ pistols. Yes that PPQ 45 is more snappy IMO too.
Beretta Sr.
PPQ 45 blows the Glock out of the water. Put on your big boy panties.
Subsequent to this video dated May 12, 2016, the Glock 21 now has a redesigned slimer grip. I own the G 21sf, and believe me it's a pleasure to grasp. Quite a mild recoil by the way. It feel as if you're shooting a 9 mm with +P ammo. Love my Glock.
Little late here, but the 21 Gen 4 featured has the same length of pull as the 21 G3 SF as well as a less pronounced "palm bump"
The Glock 21 feels so good in my hands. I guess it’s each to its own.
Party Favors My Glock 21 Gen 4 is my issued sidearm, and I own 2 of them personally. I love the Gen 4 Glock 21.... I dig the Walther too, but the Glock 21 is my day to day companion these days as of October 2018, and it is there to save my life if needed. I can't give the G21 a bigger compliment then that. Thanks for watching. Beretta Sr.
Party Favors I love mine. I shoot it better than I shoot my two 1911’s and my hk45.
With the Walter I noticed he re gripped after every shot.
That's The Recoil difference
Hey Beretta would you recommend installing a SS guide rod in the Walther ppq 45 and will it tame the muzzle flips?
Ergonomics, trigger, accuracy, and finally the looks, of the 9mm PPQ won me over the competition (especially the Glock). It's just a newer and more contemporary overall. I've had no reliability issues, albeit only about 200 rds.
Love the Glock 21! Like the 20 better, but I shoot both well. I haven’t had the pleasure to shoot anything from the PPQ line up yet, but I hope to be changing that soon. Thanks for the comparison!
I see a sig p320 45acp in your future. I almost got the ppq 45 a month ago because I love my ppq m2 40 (which flips more than my g23) but passed on it and got a sig p320 instead. The only downside to the Walthers is the muzzle flip and everyone I know who doesn't really care for them is for that reason. The sig has the higher bore axis as well, but manages the recoil/muzzle flip better. Good comparison guys.
I agree with you completely! I need to see if they make the 320 in 45ACP as the Carry and the Compact if so I will have to make a tough decision, or just pay cash for one and Visa for the other.
:) Beretta Sr.
Jeremy Jones, I also have the both the Sig p320 full 45 acp, and the P320 full in 9 mm. I couldn't agree with you more regarding a very manageable recoil/muzzle flip. Both the 9 and the 45 are just amazing guns.
Looks like you handled the recoil of the G21 better.
I thought the same. Is the ppq that much more unmanagable? Seemed like u had more trouble controlling recoil on ppq. Is it bad? Im considering purchading it next
Nice video. For a recreational rage gun I’d probably go with the Walter but if it’s a go to war shit hit the fan type situation I’d definitely take the Glock. I’ll sacrifice a small amount of accuracy for that Glock reliability
held both at a local gun shop Walther PPQ M2 45 and Glock 21 g4 and Wather PPQ m2 45 wins craftsmanship and ergo quality
bought it shot it love scary accurate...
I got my G21 a Phantom adjustable trigger. A Double Diamond Connector, and a titanium safety plunger. Polished all triggers points. It’s now a sub 3lb pull with minimal travel. Ima keepa my G21.
Great choice for comparison guys. I just purchased a PPQ M2 / 45, 3mo. ago & love it !
That Walther PPQ 45 is really something! Fast Shooting and the early signs of a tack driver from 10 to 15 yards away. Multi target engagements should be good to go. :). Beretta Sr.
You guys are so humble and modest about your shooting skills
I have the PPQ 9 and 45, stainless steel guide rod with Wilson combat spring, talon grips. Also a PPS with talon grips. These are awesome pistols. Shot my bro's and nephews Glocks and Sig P320 recently, and no way would I trade for any of those. I had a Walther Creed and sold it to buy one of the PPQs, but I believe I will be buying another Creed as I liked that trigger alot also, very smooth.
dccmadams44 The Creed.... I did not think I would like it, I was wrong. That video will be coming in a couple weeks. :) Beretta Sr.
BERETTA9mmUSA I think the Creed is a great value at $350 or less.
Nice job Gents. Thanks for taking the time to review.
Your welcome Sir, Thanks for taking a look. :) Beretta Sr.
I've had my PPQ .45 since late last October. 800ish rounds fired, 2 failures to feed with junk ammo and the spring on the slide release came loose once causing the slide to lock open after each round fired but it fixed easily with a quick field strip. Your mileage may vary but I've enjoyed mine immensely.
Jon Cox, if the failures you mentioned happened in a desperate situation, you'd dead by now. Wouldn't happen with the dependable Glock. I find the PPQ (gave up my 9 M2) to be a little too dainty.
I love my Walther ppq .45, I manage to shoot tight groups with it at 27 yards, and I am a 1911 guy who is used to the accuracy of single stag 45s. I can definitely recommend the Walther to anybody who likes 45s, the trigger is just so smooth and the grip feels great to me, they come with 3 different backstraps, so you can adjust it to your hand size. Just give this 45 a try
Someone needs to do a review of the Glock 21 gen 5 MOS that just came out
I'll take the Glock. Walther PPQ is very difficult to take down (common complaint on Web). I need to use a screw driver to pry the PPQ take down grip.
Personally I love both the Walther and the Glock. I have large hands so the grip swell on the Glock did not bother me at all. Just a note however, the Glock Gen. 4's do come with smaller grip swells. Also, I did cheat a bit. I changed guide rod from plastic to titanium, did some trigger work and got rid of the plastic sights. I also changed all of the plastic pins to the stainless steel pins. On the rail, I added the Strealight TLR-2. Important Note: Before I performed any modifications I noticed quite a bit less muzzle flip on the Glock over the Walther due to the Gen. 4's spring configuration. Nice review and video guys. Don't you just love the steel targets??
one thing of note.. the first shooter had to re-adjust your grip after every shot through the walther and not with the glock.. the lower bore axis is most likely the reason. I have a walther p99 and I love it.
True but he was able to keep a tight group. Even without changing his grip on the Glock his group was looser. Same shooter, different performance. I wish he would have adjusted his grip on the Glock to see if his groups would have been better. When I shoot the Walther PPQ M2. 45acp I don't have to readjust my grip. As you can see from the video neither did Baretta Sr.
Love em both
+Beretta SR Couldn't agree more. BOTH are great guns. Personally I think the exceptional trigger on the PPQ outweighs the slight advantage the Glock has in recoil and I believe that is probably why your grouping is better with the PPQ.
Good points Sir, we agree. I also really enjoy both pistols.... Nice knockdown power with that 45ACP..... I carry a Glock 30 Gen 4 off duty everyday. Another Great 45 in my opinion. :)
Beretta Sr.
If i ever pick up a striker fired 45, it would most likely be the PPQ. I would be tempted by the (hopefully) VP45, but think I'd go PPQ just to vary the stable.
I think you would enjoy the "New Kid" Walther PPQ in 45ACP. It is one of those pistols that I like a little more each time I shoot it. Even with a little more recoil, the PPQ 45 is very enjoyable.
Beretta Sr.
The bore-axis was a killer for me when I held it in hand... I do love my PPQ 9mm M2 though...
I think the Walther PPQ in 9mm is the best shooter of all the PPQ pistols.
Beretta Sr.
All my Glocks go to Cold Bore Customs to get the hump removed and the added texturing. An undercut of the trigger guard as well. Pretty much the only complaints that I have with the Glocks. They feel as close to my 1911 grips as they can. Keep up the honest reviews. I think many people enjoy the "what you like and don't like" about any firearm. Keeps the reviews honest and above reproach..
Glock owner since 1990 just bought a Glock 21 USA marked and it's trigger is better than my Austria marked Glock's.
Right on Sir! Love my Glock 21.
My SIG P320 Compact in .45 ACP is also very accurate. I did put an apex flat trigger in it and a hogue grip on it. It really takes it to the next level.
Great reviews from both of you over the years. Subbed to your channel today. I thought that I was subbed to it already. I Picked up a barely used PPQ45 today for $496 out the door that included 4 mags trigicon night sights and a kydex holster. What a fun gun to shoot and a great deal that I stumbled upon. Groups shot were very tight at 7 and 10 yards. I'm going back to the range tomorrow to shoot it side by side with my CZ P10c. I love the triggers on both. I think that I would agree with your CZ P10c video that the PPQ trigger is a little better than the P10C's trigger. The reset on my P10C may be slightly better than the PPQ.
I have been looking into these walthers, I like how it looks to fit your hand better without being bulky.
Good review guys.
I think you would like a Walther PPQ, you would just have to decide between the 9mm, 40Cal, or this wonderful 45ACP. :) Beretta Sr.
I love that G21 awesome
If I was a bad guy and encountered this guy and the way he cocked that gun….. that’s scary , I would rethink my options on how accurate he shoots and how fast I can get away.
thanks guys for great reviews. totally enjoy them all.
Hi Shawn, thanks man for checking out the videos, we appreciate it Sir.
Beretta Sr.
Another great vid. I really enjoy watching you two share your enjoyment of handguns!
Thanks very much for staying with us, we appreciate it Sir. We both need to dig into these 45's some more this summer. Enjoy your weekend coming up. Beretta Sr.
Jonathan Frost likewise. They’re both humble and are honest, awesome shooters.
Enjoyed seeing the recoil on each of theses with 2 different shooters. That 1st shot with the ppq showed just how much difference there really is in the first shooter. I though it was going to fly out of his hand. I personally think the trigger on the ppq is to light for edc even with mentality and finger control.
21,26,19,30 gen4 are my absolute favorite and I'm that order. Great shooting guys, I'm a new subscriber and I love this channel.
I also love the Gen 4 Glocks that you do! We have videos up on all of them I think. Thanks for the Sub! We really appreciate it very much.
Respectfully, Beretta Sr.
BERETTA9mmUSA Could you do a video on a Gen 4 Glock 20 10mm?
add the 3.5 connecter on the the glock 21 and you should be able to get better groups.
Nelson rodriguez you dont have to add shit to the ppq
Glock all thee way. I'm used to the grips and fits my hand just right. With Glock you can upgrade or down grade your barrel to a higher cal or lower mm. You can upgrade your guide rod assembly and grips, not to mention a very light trigger assembly. You can't do that with a Walther. Love my Glocks!!!!
My GLOCK 21 rides with me every shift and there isn’t another pistol I would take over it out here on patrol.
Mr.45 GLOCK Owner Me too Sir! Not this one, as I own 2 Glock 21 Pistols on my own dime. I keep all my Department stuff out of our Channel other then to say I have been active duty for almost 19 years now. I wanted to say "Thank-you for your service Sir, it really is important stuff we do in all aspects of our jobs..... Stay Safe!
Beretta Sr.
Glocks are very beautiful pistols as well as being very high quality. They have this futuristic rugged look and a beautiful finish on the slides.
@@mayukhsen8195 I own Glocks. They're very good guns, but they are not high quality. High quality is not plastic sights, spongy trigger, slick frame, and mediocre slide serrations. If anything, Glocks are very basic. Walther's PPQ line gives you many things Glock does not, which is why I sold my G19 for my PPQ.
@@bronzeguy9839 sights are just fine and dandy mate. My aim with Glock is the best and most perfect.
Well, if you are a good shot already, I can promise you that you won't be benefitted by anything more than what's already installed in the glocks.
Trigger takes some getting used to, but afterwards it's all good.
@@bronzeguy9839 with Glock you get full auto, higher capacity, drum mags, and robust reliability.
I'm probably in the minority, but I've held a Walther PPQ in my hand, and for me at least does not feel right. That's me. I do own a Glock 21 gen 4 and love it. The grip, however, does take getting used to. Like sr. said you must practice with whatever gun to become proficient. As far as the wall & grit jr. mentions about the Glock 21, you can buy a 3.5# disconnector and spring kit relatively cheap to eliminate those issues and lighten the trigger as well. Anyway, love the comparison videos. Keep up the great work. Stay safe guys.
Good points Rich, Thanks for the comment and the information.
Beretta Sr.
Good comparison review guys. I own both and have to agree the ergos and trigger on the Walther are much better. That being said I shoot them both equally well and won't be getting rid of the 21 anytime soon. Keep up the good work on the videos.
My PPQ 45 is my favorite. Trigger is simply the best. Hard to miss your target with this gun.
What sights (looks like night sights) do you have on your G30 .45acp?
will be looking out for those vids, thanks for the response.
Thanks for the Vid. I have owned G21 and multiple XD Service model .45's. I do want a Walther but can easily tell. The XD shoots vastly smoother and far less muzzle rise than any others discussed. Much less that P320 full size also. IMHO
I took my Ruger SR 1911 45acp and my Walther PPQ 45 and found the PPQ did have a noticeable rise than the Ruger and not as accurate. But the Walther PPQ 45 is a great gun. Maybe I am just more accustomed to the 1911, Thanks for the video
PPQ45 is better for me but mine has come with steel fluorescend sights
The more videos that are shot with the Glock 21, shows the same effect! And the reason why I prefer not 2 use or have in my name. The Glock 30s and Glock 41 has that stab kick ass recoil, that is natural with a 45 acp! I love, and want that stiff kick from 45's short or long barrel! Great video Beretta 9mm USA.
Great comparison video, Thanks!
Thank-you for checking it out.
Beretta Sr.
Supposedly you can use Remington RP45 15 round magazines in the PPQ 45. I have one and it fits pretty flush and locks the slide open. Haven’t made it to the range yet to test, but others have and say it works.
Thanks for the video. I'm debating on my next pistol purchase, with the Walther PPQ in .45 being one of my top two choices. I would have loved to see the Springfield XDm in this comparison as well.
Both are very good, but the Walther PPQ In 45 has a much better trigger then the XDM.... That's just my take, you may like the XDM 45 better, and if so, it is a Great choice. :). Beretta Sr.
nice video guys, I just subscribed, good work!
Thanks Mr. Davis, we appreciate you subscribing. Lots of videos for you to check out, including the new Top 5 Handguns for 2017. We put allot of work into that one that includes some good shooting action. Take care Rodney. Beretta Sr C 1/9.
is the weapon concealable iwb /owb? is so can you show this in one of your videos?
Yes it is. Like most full size guns, it depends on what you're wearing.
primarily referring to the sight picture (too much air between the front post and rear sight) on the ppq. like i said though, that's the only gripe i have about the ppq, otherwise pretty much perfect... actually traded both glocks for a ppq long slide q5 2 days ago...LOL
Dang I'm looking at my first 45 cal purchase I was initially trying NOT to check out the walther 45 because i have a walther pk380 on layaway that I'm picking up in 2 wks and ddnt want to go walther twice in a row but you guys make it sound like its butter so now I'm not sure🤔
another damn good video guys
Thanks Jake for checking out the video. We are trying to have more fun with the videos this year. Beretta Sr.
I have a Beretta PX4 Storm full size in 9mm. Given the Beretta in your name, I'd enjoy seeing your comparison between the PX4 in .45 versus the Glock 21 and/or Walther PPQ in .45
Check out the Sig P320 Compact in 45. I've had both the Glock and the PPQ and prefer the P320 Compact. It subjective but I find the PPQ trigger insanely light, fine for the range but a little to light for carry.
I like your presentation style, I just subscribed.
Thanks Chris. We were just out shooting New Videos at the range today so they will be coming up in October and November 2016. Thanks again for the Sub. Beretta Sr.
***** Good stuff, looking forward to it.
Another great video! I've had the PPQ 45 for about 2 months now and love it. Added the stainless guide rod and rubber talon grips - which I think really make the PPQ grip even that much better. I love my glocks but this PPQ 45 is amazing. In fact I just ordered a 2nd one and more mags. My only negative with the PPQ is the trigger - don't get me wrong its great. But man is it light - almost too light I think to make me really comfortable carrying. However, still my first choice for a "battle" 45 pistol.
Great comment Sir, all very good points!
Beretta Sr.
you and your son are doing ng good work
Awesome video guys! Can't get enough. Young beretta a little hard on the glock 21 haha. But I agree with you both, both great pistols in their own way. Thanks guys for keeping the videos coming.
Thanks my friend.... We will have several more coming this summer. Should be a good year of shooting for sure. Even have a Revolver that I bought that I never thought I would like or buy.
Beretta Sr.
Throw a weapon light on the front and it’ll lower that muzzle flip on both.
Hi guys, the TP9 V2 seems to be the Canik clone of the Walther P99 AS, and the TP9SF the clone of the PPQ. Any chance of you doing a comparison video of the Walthers with their Canik counterparts?
great video I shot a Gloc 40 & shot a 45 over the weekend I like the 45 now just searching for the right 45 I will look into the Walter cause Gloc is the go to just to carry I feel that 45
I wish Walther offeted their PPQ M2 45 In a compact model. The ppq 45 I shot was magnificent thought it did have some jump to it. However almost all 45s have some jump to them, but a well made 45 front sight will drop right back in place. The ppq 45 does just that. I was quickly throwing controlled pairs in the kill zone. It's a fantastic weapon, but I'd like to have one in a more concealed carry size.
I do not think the 45 PPQ gets the respect it deserves, when you consider what the pistol brings to the table for the price you pay to get one. That's just my take on it. It is a very good 45ACP pistol overall. Beretta Sr.
Another excellent vid! Great job. As much as I like (okay love) my PPQ M2 9mm, I'm still on the fence with the PPQ 45. I had an XD-45 (13+1) that I still regret ever selling as it was excellent for me. Zero problems on it. I was stupid to sell it. Got an M&P 45 mid-size and I love that pistol. The only drawback I have on it is that it is 10+1. Otherwise, that 4 inch barrel 45 is a dream to shoot. The PPQ (or any 45 for that matter) has some pretty high standards to meet if I were to get one to go with that M&P. If I have an opportunity to rent a PPQ 45, I will. I've become a huge Walther fan, so I can't deny part of me is tempted.
Good plan. Rent one and bring 200 rounds with you..... You will know after that range trip. I will say I like the Walther 45 more and more as the time and shooting sessions increased over the last 30 to 45 days. :) Beretta Sr.
GOOD shooting fella !
Great review
Thank You for posting this
Charles Hanna Thank-you for watching! :)
BERETTA9mmUSA you bet
Have A Very Merry Christmas
Love the PPQ trigger n ergonomics But cannot STAND the slickness of the grip But w the addition of a hogue Large handall grip sleeve, I couldn’t imagine a nicer.45 that’s not a 1911
Great vid Guy's!
Thank-you Sir for taking a look.
Beretta Sr
Excellent guns! Thanks for the video. I would like to see you guys doing a comparison video of two or more popular guns shooting from sandbag rests. I think that would be very interesting for me and many other people to watch. Do you shoot .22 pistols? Walther makes a ppq 22 and I heard it was excellent also. Keep up the great videos gentlemen. Thanks again!
We will try to work that in during the Summer, we have allot to cover as the channel has grown a bit. :). You have a great summer! Beretta Sr.
Walther PPQ you are on my GETLIST
PPQ... It's simply an amazing gun, I see many die hard Glock fans ( I own a 17 and a 43) say "Glock is the best!" most likely have never held or fired a Walther. Best for what? Aftermarket parts? I will give you that.. most Glock owners I know invest more in upgrades than they paid for the gun! All guns have there pros and cons, I prefer my PPS M2 over my 43 HANDS DOWN! You will be hard pressed to find a better all around striker fired .45 than the PPQ..no it's not perfect but neither is Glock..looking at his grouping clearly the higher bore of axis was null and void.. and that is the BIGGEST pro the Glock has over the PPQ and as seen here means what?? tighter grouping you would think...don't knock it till you try it.
I'm currently carrying a G21. Now I need that PPQ. My other pistol for edc is my PPQ M2 9mm. They are great guns. I imagine for me the PPQ will outclass my G21 in every way.
I still love that Glock 21 Gen 4. I was just issued a new one and shot a 99.2 on the police qualification course. A new all time high for me. :) Beretta Sr.
@@BERETTA9mmUSA I absolutely love this video!! Walther PPQ looks fantastic so does the G21. In terms of reliability I would definitely trust either pistol with my life!!
Excellent pistols, thanks for sharing
XD and XDm also holds 13 and maybe has slightly better ergos than Glock. Also in your video about the "XD-45 DPM" it looks like it has the least muzzle flip of all 3. I would rethink who ist "king of the hill". ; )
I have a 21sf that I shoot pretty well. It’s all preference. Shoot what You shoot well. Enough said.
An amazing amazing reset on the Walthers trigger. And easy double tapper......I can't switch to another.....
Picked up a ppq 45 this morning. I had a Thompson 1911 parkerized first, then a XD Tactical.
I think you will like it allot. The only thing to note is the lighter but excellent trigger. After 200 rounds you will be loving it. Beretta Sr.
The G21 grip fits me perfectly. About time Walther got in the modern age with a .45
nice, will you be picking up the q5 match?
Not this year as we have been building AR Rifles and I picked up the Sig 225A1 and the Sig 226 Legion.... Videos will be coming up on them. Beretta Sr.
that grouping with the ppq is awesome!!! i want another 45 i own a couple now but the ppq looks amazing!!!
All well and good Michael, but for a go to war gun, The PPQ's trigger is way to light, where as the Glock's trigger is better suited for combat.
All well and good Michael, but for a go to war gun, The PPQ's trigger is way to PERFECT, where as the Glock's trigger is better suited for FANBOYS.
Fixt.
King Murphy I could group my 21sf like that. It’s all in what You like. The kid likes the ppq, all good.
Where'd you get those back plates on the rear of the slide?
Question can I rack the slide one handed (PPQ 45) I can do that to my 9mm PPQ okay and my son and I was speaking about 45s and he shot some 45s. I'm not weak I'm pretty strong well anyone would be using one arm for over 20 years.
I'm so glad I don't have the grip issues with the Glock 21 Gen 4 short stubby fingered people do. Otherwise, I'd miss out on the glory of Glock's finest masterpiece.
Just subscribed, really like your comparison videos. Do you ever shoot both eyes open ?
That is funny that you ask..... Young Beretta and I were just out shooting videos at the range today and I talk about trying to practice shooting with both eyes open. It is a very old habit that is hard to break. Beretta Sr.
No big deal with one eye closed. When I tried aiming with both eyes open, I was seeing double. Just hit the damn target either way.
the Walther sights are adjustable fore windage. for got to mention that when comparing the sights
If I didn't already own a CZ 97, hands down I would pick the PPQ! I love my 9mm PPQ best gun on the market in my opinion.
I need to try the CZ97 at some point, maybe next year, as I already destroyed my $5K budget for 2016. The Sig 225A1, Sig Legion 226, and a Chiappa White Rhino 4 inch are all coming this Summer. Spoiler Alert! LOL.
Beretta Sr.
Great video thanks guys! I recently rented a Glock 17 at the range, and once I learned the sights/trigger I shot it very well. But ergonomics compared to my XD Mod2 service model, left a lot to be desired; I feel like the Walther would be the same. So now I'm like do I go for comfort with more of a learning curve to control recoil, or go where recoil was well managed but it didn't feel quite as good in my hands, making long use problematic/uncomfortable? Decisions, decisions...
Forgot to mention the decision is on what to purchase next, and I'm torn between Glock/Walther.
I think the added recoil, you can adjust to with the Walther PPQ and it's excellent grip. If you hate the Glock grip, all you can do is add a talon grip tape to it and that will make it a little better, but the grip is the grip. Just my take on these 2 pistols. Beretta Sr.
You shot the PPQ slower, so its not surprising that the group was tighter than the first group with the Glock that you basically mag dumped.
Both are excellent .45's though.
We agree, It almost seemed like he was going for "Double Tap" practice.... They are fun guns to shoot for sure.
Beretta Sr.