I remember when you’re first doing RUclips and you mostly overlooked Engl amps. I’ve been a fan of Engl amps forever especially the Blackmore and Fireball. My first YT demo was of the FB60. Just did a few on the Blackmore recently. Glad you are finally grinding some Engl’s brother! Recorded a ton on music with mine!
I really appreciate all the guitar switching to help show off the amp. You gave your audience some love there. I was also quite surprised by how clear the 7 string sounded. Well done.
Thank you for doing this one! Now that you’ve pretty much worked through the Engl lineup, what are your overall thoughts on how they stack up against each other? Also, did you try plugging into your usual Mesa cab before sending the amp back? If so I’d love to hear your thoughts.
EFFFFF the tones are killer. Kyle, would love to hear your thoughts on this versus other four channel monsters like the Generator 120. Even though it fits the look, I got to say that I hate the tiny dots on those knobs. Just hard to see unless you're up in its grill 😂
I feel like listening to you talk about it, and the videos done earlier with the SE, FB100, and AE100, it would seem like the FB100 is still kind of the "king". I pre-ordered this SE w/ EL34's, have an FB100 on the way, and currently have the AE100 KT77 limited run (Axe Palace), which I LOVE. Should be interesting to compare all three when the SE arrives in December
Was this the 6l6 or EL34 version? Do you feel the new cab is particularly bright since its new and not broke in yet? How did you like this compared to the old version?
I don't miss any hi end what so ever. Maybe due to your sm57 setup. For my taste I'd roll of the treble or presence in most of the examples and I think it would cut through the mix like a flex. Might be different from what you heard. I could suggest to mix in a condenser from a more distant position to get closer to the actual sound in the room but it would spoil the comparability with your other vids. I really enjoyed that one anyway - great job!
I personally liked the original SE better on your other review And that was an EL34, this one was a 6L6 I think, which I normally prefer I know EL34s generally sound a bit tighter (than 6L6), but this one didn't do it for me Maybe it was the mic placement or something - maybe it was the overall lack of a pedal on this one. I heard more harshness on the top, without as much of the ENGL growly, pleasing bottom end. Might have been the recording, or the dialing lacked lows.
This one has a bit more bite in the highs than the old version, right? I noticed that the old version was quite similar to the Savage, but it just didn't have the same presence and bite as the Savage. This one sounds like it has plenty of that though!
@@ShadovvV or we can play through the amazing one you designed....oh wait your just a keyboard couch tech. Have you traced the preamp section....doubt it. As a Bronze level Fender tech I think it sounds really good.
@@metalmeister3054- Is that why the amp sounds like a distortion pedal? Honestly, I wouldn't pay $400 for this thing. It sounds like an old Digitech pedal.
@@metalmeister3054- I've owned several Peavey amps over the years and honestly, I've never really liked the 5150. It sounded far too 'raw' to my ears. The only Peavey amp I ever liked was the VTM 120. I sold it though because I'm trying to be more of a Marshall guy. lol Even then, it still seems the most sought after are the vintage types. Some people say the newer JVM410HJS for example, can do the old Marshall thing -somewhat, but I still think those have a weird type of digital bite to them as well. Maybe it's just the updated circuitry or newer components they're putting in them or something, but every newer amp I've heard over the past 15 years sounds rather digital to my ear. Almost every brand really. They all sound like amp simulators, not actual traditional tube amplifiers. Honestly, I think it's a bit strange. Maybe there's something wrong with the components they're putting on the new circuit boards. They just don't sound the same to my ears anymore. I'm sure you could probably fool me in a blind test though because there are a shit ton of other aspects to take into consideration, so even videos like this here still seem rather pointless to me. Think about it: Guitar type, pickups, string tuning, mic, signal chain, etc.. ALL of those are factors, among other things. Even the player and the acoustics of the room.
@@ShadovvV I can get those tones on my Boss Katana. But i'm sure it sounds and feels different if you were actually playing it in the room. RUclips has a strange way of making all these high-gain amps sound the same. At least on my end. I have really good speakers hooked-up to my PC, so I know it's not a "crappy speaker" issue.
@@TheCyberMantis - True.. but the real challenge is how or even IF it would fit into a dense mix. Even some vintage or high end Marshall amps have issues with that sometimes. It's a delicate balance between grit and shit.
@@ShadovvV You have to dial everything in differently for every situation. It's never easy to engineer a dense mix. It quickly becomes a wall of mud, if you don't know what you are doing.
The comment about the treble shift sitting too low almost in the upper mids, the Invective 120 is the same, the treble is like a higher upper mid and the presence is too high like HiFi high.
How did they hide a flame in the power button!! Excellent video, brutha! Sounds like the SE, but better! haha I need one!!!! That half stack, just looks so dirty, and I wanna bathe in it's filth!
It's a killer amp, but using active pickups with it kind of sucks the soul out of this amp. It doesn't need any help from active pickups to be mean as hell.
God I wish I could afford this. The single biggest "HOLY SHIT WHAT IS THAT AMP?" moment of my life was when I first heard Symphony X's Paradise Lost in 2007, which I believe was recorded with the OG Special Edition 🤯
powerball, SE and invader all have that high freq missing you are talking about. its not that cabinet. Savage 120 is the sickest of them all. I will never part with mine.
Sounds really digital, almost like a Kemper. Ick.. no thanks. Is Engl perhaps cashing in on the big shiny 'toob' obsession? Hmmmm I think a schematic is in order. Honestly, what I'd really like to see is what the circuit board looks like.
13:23 I've never heard an amp sound so good to the point of where I said out loud "That's just unfair." It sounds sooo damn good.
This is all I want an amp to do lol
Man I’m getting to the conclusion that I like ALL engl amplifiers
Yeah they're all unique in their own way. They're also a lot cheaper if I buy them directly from Europe thropugh Thomman or DV247.
@@amirtak9886You'll have to convert voltage. The power isn't rated for the United States. If you're OK with that, it is about $900 cheaper.
@adamstrachn a good power transformer goes for around a $100. That's what I would Do.
@@amirtak9886 Not bad at all. Definitely something to look more into.
@@adamstrachn yeah. And marshall amps are way cheaper in Europe too.
I fully believe this is the best metal amp ever made. Bes tone. Best everything.
I remember when you’re first doing RUclips and you mostly overlooked Engl amps. I’ve been a fan of Engl amps forever especially the Blackmore and Fireball. My first YT demo was of the FB60. Just did a few on the Blackmore recently. Glad you are finally grinding some Engl’s brother! Recorded a ton on music with mine!
You just wanted the best angles for the gun show. Thanks for putting it out, my man. Much love.
I really appreciate all the guitar switching to help show off the amp. You gave your audience some love there. I was also quite surprised by how clear the 7 string sounded. Well done.
Great intro. This amp sounds so huge and agressive. Really cool for heavy rythm.
Brutal and crushing AF just like the original. Best metal amp made to date \m/
YOU are special Kyle ❤
Dude, did not mind the quality of the video at all! Thanks for the thorough demo! I love engel even more now!
Thank you for doing this one! Now that you’ve pretty much worked through the Engl lineup, what are your overall thoughts on how they stack up against each other?
Also, did you try plugging into your usual Mesa cab before sending the amp back? If so I’d love to hear your thoughts.
I put a graphic eq in front on my board. Fixes any deficiency in the eq of the amp.
Kyle will you be doing a review on the Bogner Uber Ultra???
My guess is because he’s busy filming content for sponsored videos first…I’m sure Bogner didn’t pay him to make a video.
The bogner is average would take any engl over that thing
@@josephbutler148 The new Uber Ultra is anything but average.
EFFFFF the tones are killer.
Kyle, would love to hear your thoughts on this versus other four channel monsters like the Generator 120.
Even though it fits the look, I got to say that I hate the tiny dots on those knobs. Just hard to see unless you're up in its grill 😂
So damn good yet so DAMN EXPENSIVE!!!
ENGL is just pure joy! 😂
I feel like listening to you talk about it, and the videos done earlier with the SE, FB100, and AE100, it would seem like the FB100 is still kind of the "king". I pre-ordered this SE w/ EL34's, have an FB100 on the way, and currently have the AE100 KT77 limited run (Axe Palace), which I LOVE. Should be interesting to compare all three when the SE arrives in December
Was this the 6l6 or EL34 version? Do you feel the new cab is particularly bright since its new and not broke in yet? How did you like this compared to the old version?
Fantastic demo of this brand new BEAST of an amplifier!! 😆🤘 It sounds just as we would expect; CRUSHING!!! 🔥🔥
Sounds digital to me. What I'd really like to see is what the circuit board looks like. Don't let those big shiny toobs fool you.. hmmmmm
@@ShadovvV Good luck with that. 🤣
@@nickolasgough8529 - Yep, but I'm guessing the circuitry of the board probably looks somewhat similar to a Digitech distortion pedal anyways, so..
Love the drop tuned chugs
I’m sold on this amp!!
Man most engls I've tried have just way more gain than even metal players should need, what the fuck lol
Sounds awesome. Is that an ESP LTD EC-1000? Been looking at one of those with EMG’s, what do you make of it, good?
13:12 filthy!!!!! I love it!!!!!!
I don't miss any hi end what so ever. Maybe due to your sm57 setup. For my taste I'd roll of the treble or presence in most of the examples and I think it would cut through the mix like a flex. Might be different from what you heard. I could suggest to mix in a condenser from a more distant position to get closer to the actual sound in the room but it would spoil the comparability with your other vids. I really enjoyed that one anyway - great job!
The tone was so much better with the Heritage. Wow.
ENGL... best amps ever for metal. In my humble opinion.
I personally liked the original SE better on your other review
And that was an EL34, this one was a 6L6 I think, which I normally prefer
I know EL34s generally sound a bit tighter (than 6L6), but this one didn't do it for me
Maybe it was the mic placement or something - maybe it was the overall lack of a pedal on this one.
I heard more harshness on the top, without as much of the ENGL growly, pleasing bottom end. Might have been the recording, or the dialing lacked lows.
This one has a bit more bite in the highs than the old version, right? I noticed that the old version was quite similar to the Savage, but it just didn't have the same presence and bite as the Savage. This one sounds like it has plenty of that though!
Just bought it on Reverb!
This one, or the fireball? Can you achive the same tonality, or is one better than the other?
Kyle that sounds Killer my brother. Keep up the gd work.
So,, I know you did or was able to try allot of the ENGL amps now,, which is your favorite,, is it still the Fireball?
Engl Thunder!
Sounds OK but I hate the looks and blinking lights. I still hope you get a Victor model to demo sometime. They are finally in-stock at Sweets.
Honestly, the off camera stare actually worked well
Wow...Horst can design one helluva amp!!!! Hes also an engineering genius.
Let's have a look at the schematic then. I'd like to see the circuit board because this amp sounds rather digital to my ears.
@@ShadovvV or we can play through the amazing one you designed....oh wait your just a keyboard couch tech. Have you traced the preamp section....doubt it. As a Bronze level Fender tech I think it sounds really good.
@@metalmeister3054- Is that why the amp sounds like a distortion pedal? Honestly, I wouldn't pay $400 for this thing. It sounds like an old Digitech pedal.
@@ShadovvV stick to your 5150 circuit and pretend nothing else exists it'll probably save you a lot of time and money.
@@metalmeister3054- I've owned several Peavey amps over the years and honestly, I've never really liked the 5150. It sounded far too 'raw' to my ears. The only Peavey amp I ever liked was the VTM 120. I sold it though because I'm trying to be more of a Marshall guy. lol Even then, it still seems the most sought after are the vintage types. Some people say the newer JVM410HJS for example, can do the old Marshall thing -somewhat, but I still think those have a weird type of digital bite to them as well. Maybe it's just the updated circuitry or newer components they're putting in them or something, but every newer amp I've heard over the past 15 years sounds rather digital to my ear. Almost every brand really. They all sound like amp simulators, not actual traditional tube amplifiers. Honestly, I think it's a bit strange. Maybe there's something wrong with the components they're putting on the new circuit boards. They just don't sound the same to my ears anymore. I'm sure you could probably fool me in a blind test though because there are a shit ton of other aspects to take into consideration, so even videos like this here still seem rather pointless to me. Think about it: Guitar type, pickups, string tuning, mic, signal chain, etc.. ALL of those are factors, among other things. Even the player and the acoustics of the room.
Sounds great, but so does my XXX that can be had for about 6 times less ....
What ibanez Model is that at 20.44 ? 😮Awesome Video !
Damn this thing is awesome
Clear and incredible sound!
Sounds digital to me..
@@ShadovvV I can get those tones on my Boss Katana. But i'm sure it sounds and feels different if you were actually playing it in the room. RUclips has a strange way of making all these high-gain amps sound the same. At least on my end. I have really good speakers hooked-up to my PC, so I know it's not a "crappy speaker" issue.
@@TheCyberMantis - True.. but the real challenge is how or even IF it would fit into a dense mix. Even some vintage or high end Marshall amps have issues with that sometimes. It's a delicate balance between grit and shit.
@@ShadovvV You have to dial everything in differently for every situation. It's never easy to engineer a dense mix. It quickly becomes a wall of mud, if you don't know what you are doing.
@ShadovvV right. First thing I thought of was it sounded like a distortion pedal.
Kinda interesting, it was like an interview rather than a product review.
The high end sound you don't like may change after putting hours on the Amp.
I fucking love Engl
Whats under that ballcap??
Dam brutal engl is so expensive you must lucky get one them 😅
You know the struggle is real and words are a problem if the forbidden clean channel gets mentioned!
The comment about the treble shift sitting too low almost in the upper mids, the Invective 120 is the same, the treble is like a higher upper mid and the presence is too high like HiFi high.
How did they hide a flame in the power button!!
Excellent video, brutha!
Sounds like the SE, but better! haha I need one!!!!
That half stack, just looks so dirty, and I wanna bathe in it's filth!
Gear flex Kyle. I’m watchin though.
And he demos it on the bk600 what a fucking bloke 👍👍
Can’t wait to see this cab in a shootout with the Mesa oversized!!!
Ola did a cab shootout that included the mesa xxl and the engl xxl.
Not bad, but im sticking with Redseven. A lot more clarity and note separation.
The RedSeven is more like an ENGL Fireball 100.
so many buttons for activities
It's a killer amp, but using active pickups with it kind of sucks the soul out of this amp. It doesn't need any help from active pickups to be mean as hell.
You still prefer Fireball to SE?
Yep
God I wish I could afford this. The single biggest "HOLY SHIT WHAT IS THAT AMP?" moment of my life was when I first heard Symphony X's Paradise Lost in 2007, which I believe was recorded with the OG Special Edition 🤯
It was à Fireball:)
Your voice is not annoying.
Still was a great episode, even if it was shot like a PUNK'D interview😅 just needed the corny B&W effect. I gotta get one of those cabs!
Crazy amp
Do you have a Discord server? If so, what's the link.
Hell yea
is invader out of production guys?
Yep
@@belligerentamateurwhere did you hear that? I see it on their website and thomann is still selling them
@@Tanax13 Yes, the Invader is discontinued, thats the last units what you can buy in Europe thru Thomann and in the USA thru Diablo Guitars
Special…ly expensive.
Kyle, ya need new riffs
I'm just $3899 short.
powerball, SE and invader all have that high freq missing you are talking about. its not that cabinet. Savage 120 is the sickest of them all. I will never part with mine.
Love the sound, but the look is a little “un engl ish”? Not important at all but i was like “oh has that peavy look” sort of
Sounds small and shrill
I must say I like the Fireball more. This is too sterile.
I agree.
Personally, I think all Engl amps are a bit sterile sounding. The top end frequencies sound like digital plugins.
@@ShadovvV If you like Marshall sound then yes, it is missing something but for me it is a plus.
I'm here for your terrible voice, and to watch you play the heritage.
Sounds really digital, almost like a Kemper. Ick.. no thanks. Is Engl perhaps cashing in on the big shiny 'toob' obsession? Hmmmm I think a schematic is in order. Honestly, what I'd really like to see is what the circuit board looks like.