@@andrewmaza8871 just pirate it. I love working dog, but they got that channel 10 money and my tax dollars have covered the costs via ABC. So you I got you covered mate.
Wonder how every industry getting under 70 k, disability, artists on 20 000 manage? Watching construction who got most freedom in pandemic and this video speaks for itself.
Yep I’m a builder and van driver- sick to death of some dick in a ranger up my arse when I’m doing 10 over in traffic with a 3 car gap in front. They have no idea they’re top heavy and roll over. Just calm the F down and get out of bed earlier so you don’t cause a five car pile up and F everyone’s day.
@@epicstyle1000 And knock off at 28 degrees or 70% humidity. Nothing will get done North of Rockhampton in QLD, the Territory or WA. CFMEU are a bunch of clowns.
I get that construction workers and their unions really do good deals for their workers sure. But how the hell does France, Sweden, Germany manage their economies okay with even stronger unions? They have a massive thriving manufacturing economy and we've seen how the French react when the people don't get their way.
Higher median wages equals higher aggregate demand. Aggregate demand drives growth. That and unions in the EU often have board representation, and employees own shares in the company via ESOPs programs. They're basically like a 401k that is dependent upon the performance of the company, meaning workers have aligned incentives with the company they work for, rather than competing interests (i.e. the interest of workers to do whatever is easiest for them vs the company interest to maximise productivity). Other incentives like this in EU are company wide bonuses for all employees (not just management) when the company or their department does well. When companies tie the performance to worker incentives workers are more likely to care if the company does well, and also will like their job more. If there's no incentives effort is minimum, job satisfaction is low, and the company stagnates.
@@Munrubenmuz no worries mate. I'm always happy to talk economics from a worker-centred point of view. Too often economics presented to us from the perspective of big business or as a purely academic exercise, but that's not the case at all. It's relevant to all of us.
@@lachlanraidal5100 that happens in one or two countries in the EU max. Ireland is a fucken basketcase when it comes to construction workers pay and conditions. Most workers are on a daily rate and only get 2/3weeks of leave a year. When you compare that to Australia, Australia is miles ahead.
Haha I've worked construction for half my life, Im not in a big crew like this so was lucky to have work right thru the Covid. I just charge half price compared to these companies. Rostered days off and licence fees ,plan approvals all take longer and are more expensive with the big construction companies
@@michaelminnikin4265 I pick areas away from built areas, in the city a single carpark for 1 ute will cost about $100 a week. Imagine trying to get large vehicle access. Also insurance can be 10% of the final price. I pick and choose jobs based on cost
@@RealWorldAustralia not bad but 4 years of uni and having to deal with modern day kids and parents? That deserves hazard pay. My kids are in the public system in a "decent" mid-upper working class area, and class sizes are 35-40 and the behaviour they describe is appalling.
The government stopped supporting it actually. Unions had little to do with it. To have manufacturing you need large domestic support. Germany has very strong manufacturing unions and still has significant manufacturing sector.
Wait does Australia have a massive unemployment problem or something (I'm Dutch so maybe I am just unaware)? Why would high income out of labor ever be bad otherwise? If you feel people in trades earn to much than you can enter the trades right. If you don't want to for the money they get than clearly they don't earn to much. This is one of the few jobs that is still manged by actual supply and demand and provide something of value in the end. For many other jobs that added value is only abstract.
Big contractors are rorting government contracts, the quote small and blow out big are a massive problem. I’m all for workers rights but the government need to stop being so lazy and start making companies pay for avoidable breaking of contracts.
Everyone agrees this is more a documentary than a comedy, but when it comes to explaining why construction costs are sky high and nobody can afford to build new houses, suddenly its a total mystery how we ended up in this situation!
As a carpenter/ general contractor, I agree. It's a wonderful time to be a tradie when the majority of people don't know how to work a paint brush. Hell, i have homes on two continents. How's the school loans treating you now!
Just anti-union bs. Have someone die at your workplace then see how u feel. Other countries have strong unions and large scale infastructure projects. And you know union projects like cross river rail ussually come in on budget.
@@SquidWaffe nsw average salary was $76k for lollipop men when I looked it up, That’s pretty good. Only a month ago nsw ambos was only allowed $79k as a base 😂
this is less of fault of the tradesman more of society pushing all the younger generation into colledge and uni causing a servere lack of skilled trandsmen giving them a massive edge in negotiation
Currently working on a government project and they have no problem throwing away tax payer dollars at the stupidest things, so this clip is spot on 😬 (But I'm benefiting from the stupidity with a longer project 😁)
This does kind of hit the nail on the head, not saying its right they can charge whatever they want. but in a few decades people will be crying out for a traide. A lot of kids out of highschool want a cushy office job which is fair enough if thats what you want. But when there are not enough plumbers or electricians or mechanics we will be paying $400 an ahour.
Tradies do skilled physical work and often destroy their bodies over their career, so arguably they deserve to be among the best paid in society. If you want an easier job then sure that's cool, but it just might pay a bit less. That said office workers should learn from tradies and remember to join a good union - everyone deserves to bargain for a good, fair deal and that only happens if workers bargain together - the value of the workforce as a whole is always way more than the sum of its individuals.
Everyone getting a fair wage is a good thing, but when construction workers are paid more than software engineers, no wonder public infrastructures are all grinding to a halt
Software engineering is a joke m8, everyones studying that shit in uni and u got all the overseas indians/chinese trying to get jobs in software engineering for low wages. High risk high reward. When is a software engineer putting his body on the line for his job, wow so difficult sitting down on a desk, im so smart, fuck off mate. No young people want to get in a trade nowadays, high demand, low supply. Thats why construction is paid better.
Why does a software engineer deserve to get paid more than a plumber? Both jobs require 4 years of learning, both can be stressful and mentally taxing, only one of them is physically demanding and carried out in uncomfortable and potentially dangerous environments.
Because the average construction worker can't be a software engineer. But on the other hand, anyone who failed High School can be a construction worker.
They get paid more than civil/structural/construction engineers which makes me laugh. Even the lowest ranked stop go man makes more than the engineers. Turn up on site and they go here comes Mr moneybags. Clowns. I was supervising riggers on half the money I was on. Ridiculous. The clowns did a 2 week course or whatever it was and good on them for making a good dollar but they all carried on like their shit didn't stink.
@@5625130 so someone who had no interest (for whatever reasons) in academics doesn't deserve to earn as much or more than someone who did? And yet here we are, it seems like running water, power on demand and a roof over your head is pretty important? If it's easy money, why are we looking at a national shortage in all skilled trades?
And this is why China is ruling the world, their people work all day for a bowl of rice, Aussies want Ford Raptors and a 150k for holding a lollypop stick.
There are more than enough homes landlords and investors just hoard them all. Worth noting that the constructions unions have called for more public housing to address the housing crisis.
I work construction. I work a 45 hour week yet I only get paid 40, and I'm always under pressure to work weekends. I spend roughly $7500 on fuel every financial year. My commute is a 3 hour round trip. I work rain hail or shine. And my annual wage is about $55,000. Any way it's 5:15 am I'm running late. Got to go.
Construction is Australia is joke. Too many people for small job taking too many hours. Prefabricated infrastructure and more automation is only way forward. Import prefabricated parts. Govt should spent money on training workers for manufacturing of high end products. The reason USA world top economy is because they aren’t paying 100K to traffic controllers for holding stop sign instead USA is giving reasonable wages to people making jet engines.
15 years in construction. $120k is actually well lower than the total package for an unskilled labourer. When this came out the total package was around $150k. I manage money in construction jobs and see how much labour costs us and how many projects blow budgets and how many never go ahead because the feasibility doesn't stack up at the exorbitant wages.
This thread is too funny. Week in week out Utopia satirizes institutions perceived as right wing, and the comments are all about how accurate it is, how it's a documentary, how it's like the writers have hidden cameras inside big companies etc. But on the rare occasions that the show satirizes a left wing institution, the comments below are all about how the writers don't have a clue, the premise is ridiculous, the writers should get out into the real world, etc. Not hard to tell the ABC's demographic.
Writers missed the point with the maths teacher joke. Construction workers should be getting paid what they are, and teachers should be on >150k. And the top end of town should be taking cuts.
Who exactly is the top end of town and how are they rorting taxpayers? Pay teachers $150k a year, pay ambos $150k a year it goes on and on... all of a sudden all GP's are getting paid $500k a year and all lawyers the same because to get qualified in those industries cost an arm and a leg in education in dollars and time. The average house price then goes to $2.0m because thats how markets and demand and supply work. Its no issue for the economy when you are getting paid market rates, but when the government creates an artificial imbalance it fucks up everything.
@@james3744 you commented at the perfect time for me to redirect you to those spivs at pwc who have been taking the taxpayer for a ride for years. Those are the sorts who are the top end of town. And not only are they not worth what they're paid, they're getting paid serious money to do damage to the country. It's just perverse, isn't it.
@@james3744 you do realise wages are stagnant but profits are rising right? Unions are available for all workers to fight for pur rights and get the full balue of our labor. Managers and CEOs dont make the world we do.
@SquidWaffe wages are stagnant on average, but now its spread across more wasteful employment (increasing the aggregate). Irrelevant middle management, reporting roles and DEI H/R get paid a lot of (too much) money relativeto any value they contribute. Conceptually no issue with union members, but lots of issues with unions and its leaders. They are the same leeches as in corporations just with better P/R.
Staunch union man here. You're right the CFMEU did f*ck it up for real hardworking people in retail, hospitality, health services and many other areas. Unions are not the problem... greed is. And greed is the underlying ethos of the LNP.
@@glenmale1748 how on earth did CFMEU 'fuck it up' for 'real hardworking people'? You do realise that the LNP go after them far harder than they go after the compliant retail unions?
@@jamesrowlands8971 By making outrageous claims for special payments. By using "safety" issues as a bargaining tool. By calling for stupid conditions at the workplace... we all know about the rorting with days off and ridiculously short hours of work. There is ample evidence. I have no problem with unions fighting hard for better conditions (I was a union member for 45 years) but making outrageous claims brought the whole movement under the spotlight and thus put pressure on every union from conservative governments. We were all tarred with the same brush! So, thanks for that!
@@glenmale1748 wait, are you really trying to sell the argument that conservatives only went after unions after unions 'went too far'? Who am I talking to here? Andrew Bolt? A goldfish who doesn't understand shit about Australian labour history?
@@glenmale1748 all true, and they are becoming more and more like the BLF every day, by the end of the decade we may have to dismantle an other Construction Union because it is in fact an Organized Crime Syndicate.
@@jamesrowlands8971 Hospitality award is $26.73 an hour even after casual loading. www.fairwork.gov.au/employment-conditions/awards/awards-summary/ma000009-summary
@@CigaretteSmokingGuy Award rates are the minimum they’re required to pay. My partner worked hospo, specifically weekends and nights so they were paid more, and would regularly get $40-$75 an hour
I reckon electricians need a pay rise though. Out of all the trades we have the highest risk and responsibilities yet we earn the same. Which explains why there is a shortage of electricians 😂 Why have high risk and high responsibilities on 90k a year when you can paint walls, nail timber, sell cars. Not everyone should be equal
This reminds me of how (when during COVID) the Victorian State Government put their foot down, standing down Tradesmen/Contractors protesting against Lockdowns, only to have the Earthquake the very next day - causing statewide devastation. I'm sure the State Government would have had to have eaten massive slices of humble pie the next day!!!
Shutting down the VIC construction industry is 1 reason why a state like Tasmania that only had a 2 week shut-down is a better performing- the highest performing economic stats. We kept working except for some rich tourist who had no customers and went bankrupt. It's easier to seal off on Island. We weren't completely cut off somehow the junkies still had product coming in
"Statewide devastation", ie an old awning fell off a building over near Richmond. In other news, my wife has a cold right now. By which I mean there is a statewide medical crisis.
Lol people always think its the top that's always greedy and in the wrong. Sometimes their right. But don't be naive as if they bottom tier worker isn't greedy as well. Both sides are trying to get out as much as they can squeeze from each other.
@@jamesrowlands8971 Spoken like a trade unionist the morning after a slush fund bender. Go as hard as you can while you can, more power to you and the rort.
All seasons of Utopia are now streaming on ABC iview: ab.co/3WPnYjI
Is there a way to watch the new season from countries outside Australia?
@@andrewmaza8871 just pirate it. I love working dog, but they got that channel 10 money and my tax dollars have covered the costs via ABC. So you I got you covered mate.
I can't wait!
Pirated.
@@Testyclairwhere?
What are you going to get for $70k. A high school maths teacher.
So spot on.
My wife is a early years primary school teacher on $100k. She won't be offended by me saying that a high school math teacher is smarter than her.
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@@geofflongford2008 anus
@@Black_Kakariwhy bother saying that?
Wonder how every industry getting under 70 k, disability, artists on 20 000 manage? Watching construction who got most freedom in pandemic and this video speaks for itself.
Mate, those Dodge Rams and Ford Rangers Raptors tailgating you on the freeway aren't going to pay for themselves!
Yep! Cashed up "battlers" who still want to play the poor me card.
Minimum 10km over the speed limit and entitled sense of ‘right of passage’.
Yep I’m a builder and van driver- sick to death of some dick in a ranger up my arse when I’m doing 10 over in traffic with a 3 car gap in front. They have no idea they’re top heavy and roll over. Just calm the F down and get out of bed earlier so you don’t cause a five car pile up and F everyone’s day.
All you see in your mirror is an angry bald man telling you to move out the way
It's always Nissan Patrol 😅
“Try roughing it out here”
36 hour week, $120,000, hot weather policy, 48 days RDO, $120 travel pay
Yeah I reckon I will!
i heard 220,000 now days
@@epicstyle1000 And knock off at 28 degrees or 70% humidity. Nothing will get done North of Rockhampton in QLD, the Territory or WA. CFMEU are a bunch of clowns.
I’ve got better than that already. Took 20 years.
Who's this mate I'd love to work there. I'm a carpenter so I should already be making that according to you
I lost it when the boat went by. 😂
this show never gets old 😂
This is so spot on, construction is fucked in Australia
Mate everything is.
Do you work in construction?
@@Peterdecz Only Tue, Thur and half day Fri.
Not just in Australia…..
this is bs?
its not real
The boat 😂😂😂
This show is more reality than " reality shows"
I get that construction workers and their unions really do good deals for their workers sure. But how the hell does France, Sweden, Germany manage their economies okay with even stronger unions? They have a massive thriving manufacturing economy and we've seen how the French react when the people don't get their way.
Higher median wages equals higher aggregate demand. Aggregate demand drives growth.
That and unions in the EU often have board representation, and employees own shares in the company via ESOPs programs. They're basically like a 401k that is dependent upon the performance of the company, meaning workers have aligned incentives with the company they work for, rather than competing interests (i.e. the interest of workers to do whatever is easiest for them vs the company interest to maximise productivity). Other incentives like this in EU are company wide bonuses for all employees (not just management) when the company or their department does well. When companies tie the performance to worker incentives workers are more likely to care if the company does well, and also will like their job more. If there's no incentives effort is minimum, job satisfaction is low, and the company stagnates.
@@lachlanraidal5100 thanks for the detailed reply. Something I've wondered about for a long time. Cheers.
@@Munrubenmuz no worries mate. I'm always happy to talk economics from a worker-centred point of view. Too often economics presented to us from the perspective of big business or as a purely academic exercise, but that's not the case at all. It's relevant to all of us.
@@lachlanraidal5100 that happens in one or two countries in the EU max. Ireland is a fucken basketcase when it comes to construction workers pay and conditions. Most workers are on a daily rate and only get 2/3weeks of leave a year. When you compare that to Australia, Australia is miles ahead.
The work is also more stable there. In the US too, a worker might be getting $50 an hour but only for 7 months then hope he gets another job.
Haha I've worked construction for half my life, Im not in a big crew like this so was lucky to have work right thru the Covid. I just charge half price compared to these companies. Rostered days off and licence fees ,plan approvals all take longer and are more expensive with the big construction companies
Keep charging half price mate. A sound business underpinning.
@@michaelminnikin4265 I pick areas away from built areas, in the city a single carpark for 1 ute will cost about $100 a week. Imagine trying to get large vehicle access. Also insurance can be 10% of the final price. I pick and choose jobs based on cost
@@michaelminnikin4265 And I had 2 years of work during Covid haha guess my strategy works
@@again5162 bar 2 weeks at the beginning of the pandemic. We never stopped in Sydney.
For 120k he better come from a long line of distinguished lollipop men.
This is half of the Melbourne Commonwealth Games
This could be a documentary on Cross River.
I'm that teacher. 😔
70k is still good cash. Enjoy it for what it is
@@RealWorldAustralia not bad but 4 years of uni and having to deal with modern day kids and parents? That deserves hazard pay. My kids are in the public system in a "decent" mid-upper working class area, and class sizes are 35-40 and the behaviour they describe is appalling.
Utopia is so funny yet so depressing at the same time...they always nail exactly how f@$%ed this country is... 🤣😞
same with Yes Minister, that might be a British show from the 1980s but politics never changes so these shows are timeless
*Disclaimer - the CMBU is in no way a parody of the CFMEU.
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That's the reason why Australian manufacturing went down the "S" bend and we import everything these days...
The government stopped supporting it actually. Unions had little to do with it. To have manufacturing you need large domestic support. Germany has very strong manufacturing unions and still has significant manufacturing sector.
Wait does Australia have a massive unemployment problem or something (I'm Dutch so maybe I am just unaware)? Why would high income out of labor ever be bad otherwise? If you feel people in trades earn to much than you can enter the trades right. If you don't want to for the money they get than clearly they don't earn to much.
This is one of the few jobs that is still manged by actual supply and demand and provide something of value in the end. For many other jobs that added value is only abstract.
And the S bend still cost $1200 and took 2 weeks.
The Rocket coffee machine the back of the office sells it
Moral. Send your kids to trade college and forget Uni and it's fees.
Mediocrity personified !!
Big contractors are rorting government contracts, the quote small and blow out big are a massive problem. I’m all for workers rights but the government need to stop being so lazy and start making companies pay for avoidable breaking of contracts.
Everyone agrees this is more a documentary than a comedy, but when it comes to explaining why construction costs are sky high and nobody can afford to build new houses, suddenly its a total mystery how we ended up in this situation!
This is actually a documentary
They call it parody, but the reality is that it is reality!
High school math teacher? Lol
Sorry, for a moment there I thought it was the Westgate tunnel project? it's only a Utopia comedy skit, could have fooled me.
Apparently the stop go person can do maths better than the teacher
As a carpenter/ general contractor, I agree. It's a wonderful time to be a tradie when the majority of people don't know how to work a paint brush. Hell, i have homes on two continents. How's the school loans treating you now!
How are they treating you. And it’s fine, my school was $3k tuition a year, state university.
What's the proice of safety?
Seventy thousand?
Nailed it.
Just anti-union bs. Have someone die at your workplace then see how u feel. Other countries have strong unions and large scale infastructure projects. And you know union projects like cross river rail ussually come in on budget.
CMBU One In All In .🤣🤣🤣🤣
Obviously the high school maths teacher cant add up
Vonsteuction workers work hard, when they actually work. But just because some is at work, doesn't mean they are working.
120k?? They make more than nsw ambos by 20k even after penalties
Its a fake show. Most lollipop men make very little and work is sporadic at best.
@@SquidWaffe nsw average salary was $76k for lollipop men when I looked it up, That’s pretty good. Only a month ago nsw ambos was only allowed $79k as a base 😂
@@TheHingshing Ye $76k base. Add on penalty rates and its in the $100k plus.
this is less of fault of the tradesman more of society pushing all the younger generation into colledge and uni causing a servere lack of skilled trandsmen giving them a massive edge in negotiation
Currently working on a government project and they have no problem throwing away tax payer dollars at the stupidest things, so this clip is spot on 😬
(But I'm benefiting from the stupidity with a longer project 😁)
This does kind of hit the nail on the head, not saying its right they can charge whatever they want. but in a few decades people will be crying out for a traide. A lot of kids out of highschool want a cushy office job which is fair enough if thats what you want. But when there are not enough plumbers or electricians or mechanics we will be paying $400 an ahour.
Tradies do skilled physical work and often destroy their bodies over their career, so arguably they deserve to be among the best paid in society. If you want an easier job then sure that's cool, but it just might pay a bit less. That said office workers should learn from tradies and remember to join a good union - everyone deserves to bargain for a good, fair deal and that only happens if workers bargain together - the value of the workforce as a whole is always way more than the sum of its individuals.
Why don't you do one on the top end of town???
Why don't you?
Everyone getting a fair wage is a good thing, but when construction workers are paid more than software engineers, no wonder public infrastructures are all grinding to a halt
Software engineering is a joke m8, everyones studying that shit in uni and u got all the overseas indians/chinese trying to get jobs in software engineering for low wages. High risk high reward. When is a software engineer putting his body on the line for his job, wow so difficult sitting down on a desk, im so smart, fuck off mate. No young people want to get in a trade nowadays, high demand, low supply. Thats why construction is paid better.
Why does a software engineer deserve to get paid more than a plumber?
Both jobs require 4 years of learning, both can be stressful and mentally taxing, only one of them is physically demanding and carried out in uncomfortable and potentially dangerous environments.
Because the average construction worker can't be a software engineer.
But on the other hand, anyone who failed High School can be a construction worker.
They get paid more than civil/structural/construction engineers which makes me laugh. Even the lowest ranked stop go man makes more than the engineers. Turn up on site and they go here comes Mr moneybags. Clowns. I was supervising riggers on half the money I was on. Ridiculous. The clowns did a 2 week course or whatever it was and good on them for making a good dollar but they all carried on like their shit didn't stink.
@@5625130 so someone who had no interest (for whatever reasons) in academics doesn't deserve to earn as much or more than someone who did?
And yet here we are, it seems like running water, power on demand and a roof over your head is pretty important?
If it's easy money, why are we looking at a national shortage in all skilled trades?
And this is why China is ruling the world, their people work all day for a bowl of rice, Aussies want Ford Raptors and a 150k for holding a lollypop stick.
This is racist and wrong. Chinese people earn more than you think and there is significant unionisation in china.
i want there union
No, this is why we have no homes in Australia
NIMBYs are the reason
There are more than enough homes landlords and investors just hoard them all. Worth noting that the constructions unions have called for more public housing to address the housing crisis.
both are right
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I work construction. I work a 45 hour week yet I only get paid 40, and I'm always under pressure to work weekends. I spend roughly $7500 on fuel every financial year.
My commute is a 3 hour round trip. I work rain hail or shine. And my annual wage is about $55,000. Any way it's 5:15 am I'm running late. Got to go.
Clearly you don't work for government projects.
This parody is about union sites.
You're not very good at this, if you're blowing 25% of your take home on petrol
@@ThePrimeMinisterOfTheBlock well I mean, I do too.... don't get much of a choice. It's either loose 25% or 100%
Sounds like a bad deal. Tried elsewhere?
Those can see have already left, those can’t see are still trying to justify their greed, until they see their end.
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Construction is Australia is joke. Too many people for small job taking too many hours. Prefabricated infrastructure and more automation is only way forward. Import prefabricated parts. Govt should spent money on training workers for manufacturing of high end products. The reason USA world top economy is because they aren’t paying 100K to traffic controllers for holding stop sign instead USA is giving reasonable wages to people making jet engines.
Union guy was right, talk to those rich people who arent ever going to do anything. Ask them why thet need a $3 million retainer.
Because they use their brains and not just lift weight !!
15 years in construction. $120k is actually well lower than the total package for an unskilled labourer. When this came out the total package was around $150k. I manage money in construction jobs and see how much labour costs us and how many projects blow budgets and how many never go ahead because the feasibility doesn't stack up at the exorbitant wages.
what a load of horseshit.
Lollypop people rule, perhaps we're the idiots. Though they could get RSI from flipping around those signs
If this is anything to go by I feel like this upcoming season might just send the Dan Andrews fans into a meltdown… far too close to the truth.
This is from last season
@@oscarpistorius3710 yep, aware of that
Obvious political hack
@@carlbennett2417 Lol too close to the truth eh?
This thread is too funny. Week in week out Utopia satirizes institutions perceived as right wing, and the comments are all about how accurate it is, how it's a documentary, how it's like the writers have hidden cameras inside big companies etc. But on the rare occasions that the show satirizes a left wing institution, the comments below are all about how the writers don't have a clue, the premise is ridiculous, the writers should get out into the real world, etc. Not hard to tell the ABC's demographic.
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Who eve wrote this has no fn idea how anything works lol
Is it a closed shop in Australia? Construction seems to be all white Aussies.
Have you seen sites recently? We have people from all over the world. Lebanese tilers, Chinese plasterers, Italian concreters, Serbian painters.
@@chodoboy they dont have a union tho
Writers missed the point with the maths teacher joke. Construction workers should be getting paid what they are, and teachers should be on >150k. And the top end of town should be taking cuts.
Who exactly is the top end of town and how are they rorting taxpayers?
Pay teachers $150k a year, pay ambos $150k a year it goes on and on... all of a sudden all GP's are getting paid $500k a year and all lawyers the same because to get qualified in those industries cost an arm and a leg in education in dollars and time.
The average house price then goes to $2.0m because thats how markets and demand and supply work.
Its no issue for the economy when you are getting paid market rates, but when the government creates an artificial imbalance it fucks up everything.
@@james3744 you commented at the perfect time for me to redirect you to those spivs at pwc who have been taking the taxpayer for a ride for years. Those are the sorts who are the top end of town. And not only are they not worth what they're paid, they're getting paid serious money to do damage to the country. It's just perverse, isn't it.
@@james3744 you do realise wages are stagnant but profits are rising right? Unions are available for all workers to fight for pur rights and get the full balue of our labor. Managers and CEOs dont make the world we do.
@SquidWaffe wages are stagnant on average, but now its spread across more wasteful employment (increasing the aggregate). Irrelevant middle management, reporting roles and DEI H/R get paid a lot of (too much) money relativeto any value they contribute.
Conceptually no issue with union members, but lots of issues with unions and its leaders. They are the same leeches as in corporations just with better P/R.
CFMEU is a joke
Staunch union man here. You're right the CFMEU did f*ck it up for real hardworking people in retail, hospitality, health services and many other areas. Unions are not the problem... greed is. And greed is the underlying ethos of the LNP.
@@glenmale1748 how on earth did CFMEU 'fuck it up' for 'real hardworking people'? You do realise that the LNP go after them far harder than they go after the compliant retail unions?
@@jamesrowlands8971 By making outrageous claims for special payments. By using "safety" issues as a bargaining tool. By calling for stupid conditions at the workplace... we all know about the rorting with days off and ridiculously short hours of work. There is ample evidence.
I have no problem with unions fighting hard for better conditions (I was a union member for 45 years) but making outrageous claims brought the whole movement under the spotlight and thus put pressure on every union from conservative governments. We were all tarred with the same brush!
So, thanks for that!
@@glenmale1748 wait, are you really trying to sell the argument that conservatives only went after unions after unions 'went too far'? Who am I talking to here? Andrew Bolt? A goldfish who doesn't understand shit about Australian labour history?
@@glenmale1748 all true, and they are becoming more and more like the BLF every day, by the end of the decade we may have to dismantle an other Construction Union because it is in fact an Organized Crime Syndicate.
Why can’t a migrant hold the stop sign? Is it a closed shop in Australia? Uk always seems to get cheap labour so much it s painful.
Yeah coz it's labourers wages that are the cost blowouts pfft
My housemate who works in hospo gets more than i do, and I'm a skilled tradesperson.
@@jamesrowlands8971 that's hard to believe. who in hospo is making 100k+ a year? what are you, a first year tradesman?
@@farahabdulahi474 plant operator. Hospo pay goes well above $50 per hour now, for people with experience, at the more popular places.
@@jamesrowlands8971 Hospitality award is $26.73 an hour even after casual loading. www.fairwork.gov.au/employment-conditions/awards/awards-summary/ma000009-summary
@@CigaretteSmokingGuy Award rates are the minimum they’re required to pay. My partner worked hospo, specifically weekends and nights so they were paid more, and would regularly get $40-$75 an hour
I reckon electricians need a pay rise though. Out of all the trades we have the highest risk and responsibilities yet we earn the same.
Which explains why there is a shortage of electricians 😂
Why have high risk and high responsibilities on 90k a year when you can paint walls, nail timber, sell cars.
Not everyone should be equal
Bunnings at 90k?
This reminds me of how (when during COVID) the Victorian State Government put their foot down, standing down Tradesmen/Contractors protesting against Lockdowns, only to have the Earthquake the very next day - causing statewide devastation. I'm sure the State Government would have had to have eaten massive slices of humble pie the next day!!!
Shutting down the VIC construction industry is 1 reason why a state like Tasmania that only had a 2 week shut-down is a better performing- the highest performing economic stats. We kept working except for some rich tourist who had no customers and went bankrupt. It's easier to seal off on Island. We weren't completely cut off somehow the junkies still had product coming in
I'm sorry but that "causing statewide devastation" bit I feel is just an insult to countries that actually get earthquakes.
"causing statewide devastation" eh? Mate were you here for the quake?
@@oscarpistorius3710 Was that the shake where a block of old brick buildings were badly damaged? Walls and facades in a heap.
"Statewide devastation", ie an old awning fell off a building over near Richmond. In other news, my wife has a cold right now. By which I mean there is a statewide medical crisis.
Lol people always think its the top that's always greedy and in the wrong. Sometimes their right. But don't be naive as if they bottom tier worker isn't greedy as well. Both sides are trying to get out as much as they can squeeze from each other.
Surprisingly Anti Union.
and pro reality
What do you think the Australian media is for?
@@chrisdawson954 spoken like an LNP minister ringing up the media to tip them off about a raid on an effective trade union.
It was written by people who remember the constant strikes of the 1970's. Unions were massively powerful back then.
@@jamesrowlands8971 Spoken like a trade unionist the morning after a slush fund bender. Go as hard as you can while you can, more power to you and the rort.
The sad thing about this show is how accurate it all is. Australia is a joke.
this stuff is worldwide, that's why shows like this never age and apply all around the world