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  • Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
  • As Keith Hamilton says in his October 2018 paper, the Osireion of Egypt is a true marvel of ancient Egyptian engineering, and this is the second video I’m making on the incredible structure. Interpreted as a subterranean part of the temple complex of the 19th Dynasty king, Seti I, Egyptologists say it was built around 1290 BC and that it is likely it was never completed.
    Many believe that the Osireion in actually a far older, pre-dynastic or Old Kingdom structure due to having a style of masonry similar to that seen in the Valley Temple and Sphinx Temple, situated in front of the Great Sphinx at Giza. A number of alternative researchers have suggested that the dynastic Egyptians renovated the Osireion and that Seti I simply incorporated it into his temple complex.
    Watch this video as we take an in-depth look at the Osireion of Egypt, as we try to unravel the mysteries of this magnificent sacred site.
    This paper is based on the work of Keith Hamilton in his paper, 'The Osireion'. Read and download the paper, and follow Keith at independent.ac...
    Images are taken from Google Images, the paper by Keith Hamilton and also the Isida Project, for educational purposes only.

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  • @AncientArchitects
    @AncientArchitects  4 года назад +48

    Please note, whilst geological/archaeological papers say the stone is sandstone, I am aware that Brien Foerster and his geologist colleague analysed the stone to say it is quartzite. I have not visited the site in person. Thank you for watching! Please like and subscribe and if you want to support the channel, I’m on Patreon at www.patreon.com/ancientarchitects

    • @TheGreatPyramid
      @TheGreatPyramid 4 года назад +2

      Is it the tomb of Osiris? No, because there is no Osiris. That's a mythical figure. Sure, there is an element of truth pointed to by myth, but they are not history. And on the question of Sandstone, dude, you need to watch this and get with it... ruclips.net/video/cGGQsWDmj9g/видео.html Don't be held back by charlatans! BTW, Keith Hamilton is a great researcher, correspond with him all the time...

    • @larrytinsley4247
      @larrytinsley4247 4 года назад +4

      @@TheGreatPyramid wtf is wrong with you every instance he said osiris could be taken as mythical or literal even if osiris is mythical to the egyptians its not to say its not real get out of your mind prison and come have a conversation with us

    • @TheGreatPyramid
      @TheGreatPyramid 4 года назад +8

      Larry Tinsley isn’t this a conversation Larry? No need for the “wtf” attitude. The title of the video is “... tomb of Osiris”. So go easy on me! I am a very reasonable person... talk, reason, but please don’t try to chase me away by some kind of bullying. So now, what is the question? I have made a few points in my comment. Slay me for that? Come on bro, follow your own advice and talk with me

    • @jasperlit1345
      @jasperlit1345 4 года назад +3

      Maybe some type of giant battery?

    • @JMM33RanMA
      @JMM33RanMA 4 года назад +4

      @@TheGreatPyramid Do you know that there are two or three "empty tombs" associated with Jesus and all, including one in Kashmir, asserted to be genuine? There are also several items like the fraudulent "Shroud of Turin" that many people continue to believe is real despite scientific evidence pointing to its flaws and its correct age. Religious people have been asserting that myths are true for a very long time, even against all rationality and scientific evidence. The fact that Ken Ham needed modern machines and products like Tyvek™ to build his bogus copy of the mythical Ark does not dent the beliefs of the dim and poorly educated.

  • @connornavich
    @connornavich 4 года назад +44

    Regardless of who, or when, the fact these sites from antiquity exist at all is unbelievable.

  • @themwuzthedaze
    @themwuzthedaze 4 года назад +33

    I feel this fascinating structure has yet to reveal all its features and purposes. Certainly the concept of building over an older structure and re-purposing it is commonplace in Egypt.

  • @TheWhore2culture
    @TheWhore2culture 4 года назад +20

    One of the strangest sites in Egypt - an excellent summation of the facts ,with out bizarre theories - I've been there at various times when the water is high and low and believe that one of the reasons they are happy to have it partially filled with green sludge,is - as you can see from the excellent B&W photos you provided - the blocks into which the steps are cut are quite unbelievable in their size! Regarding it's use,is a distraction from how it was made!? Personally I think it is a "heritage structure" reused and finished ,though this still leaves ENORMOUS questions as to how this was achieved. It's very misalignment hints at a possible very ancient base;the logistics and hydraulics involved in its construction are so complicated, I doubt we could achieve the same perfection today,with modern technology. As you state,a site that raises far more questions for everyone that can be tenuously answered. Very best to you&yours;look forward to a part2👋🌟✌

  • @hatshepsut9760
    @hatshepsut9760 4 года назад +14

    Pre dynastic surely, but really difficult to date. Another excellent video Matt 2020 is outstanding so far.

  • @johnnorth9355
    @johnnorth9355 4 года назад +10

    Several times more information than I was expecting Matt. I will have to watch two or three times more before I can take it all in. Great stuff.

    • @Ron4885
      @Ron4885 4 года назад

      I do that too.

  • @canthama2703
    @canthama2703 4 года назад +4

    Once can say anything, but can not deny the Osireion has a lot, I mean a lot of engineering, and some of the skills clearly lost to time. Simply speechless ancient site. Thanks Mat for keeping us so well informed.

  • @JMM33RanMA
    @JMM33RanMA 4 года назад +9

    "Déjà vu all over again! So packed with facts and hypotheses are Matt's videos that they can be viewed over again without boredom being an issue because there are always facts, figures and views that may have been overlooked the first time. Thanks again Matt for a wonderfully informative and entertaining video.

  • @Steve-mg8it
    @Steve-mg8it 4 года назад +29

    This was a ritual bath, the most sacred being the one in the center. It is no mistake it was designed so you had to dip into the moat first before getting to the center sacred bath. This assured your cleanliness before getting into the center sacred bath, a cleansing before the cleansing.

    • @josephefasciani7343
      @josephefasciani7343 4 года назад +6

      I believe, if I recall correctly, this is the same procedure used by Japanese in their traditional evening bath. As Japan is firmly grounded in Shinto beliefs & practices, to do so means that Japanese tradition is most likely in line with ancient Egyptian belief & practices. This is not to say they are identical, but rather that they may be spiritually parallel in their outlook(s).

    • @signalfire6
      @signalfire6 4 года назад

      The spring feeding the Osirion was famous for healing powers. Read the book 'The Search for Omm Sety' by Jonathan Cott; it was a bestseller and about the Osirion, Sety and much more. It mentions a treasure room that still has yet to be uncovered.

  • @MrZayne8
    @MrZayne8 4 года назад +39

    The foundations are deep and the water channel that feeds it is said to run under Seti I's temple suggesting a much older date. Not to mention that you have to go back over 5,000 years for the water table to be low enough to properly feed the Osireion. Why would Seti I build the Osireion and then build the only oddball L-shaped structure in Egypt right next to it when he had all the space in the world to work with? It screams of Set I finding the Osireion and building around it. Then carving on it after excavating the site.
    A sondage pit was dug outside the walls and at its deeper levels archaic and old kingdom pottery was found but nothing else until 30th dynasty artifacts were found at shallower levels suggesting that the Osireion spent many centuries buried or partially buried going back to the archaic period at least.
    Dont forget the "knob features" on the stone walls and the appearance of stone softening technology as well, like we see at sites all over the world.

    • @KellyBergerDeusVult
      @KellyBergerDeusVult 4 года назад +5

      While im not ready to definitively say, this does dovetail into the myriad discoveries made of pre-dynastic sites having no adornment, only to be re-used later and covered in reliefs, carvings, or painted by dynastic egyptians. Given the amount of evidence of this, i would say it IS another likely candidate of re-use. Having evidence pointing to both older origins, and newer claims is usually a good indicator that this idea has merit.

    • @Ddub1083
      @Ddub1083 4 года назад

      The knobs are just rope holds. Wrap rope against them and you can use leverage to much more effectively move/maneuver the stones.

    • @MrZayne8
      @MrZayne8 4 года назад +7

      @@Ddub1083 the "rope hold theory" has already been disproved many times. The knobs are not placed at leverage points and only a small percentage of the stones have them. Often only a single knob offset to one side.
      The knobs at the Osireion are clearly very shallow anyway. Unlike those seen in Peru which protrude out more.

    • @MrZayne8
      @MrZayne8 4 года назад +4

      @@KellyBergerDeusVult Agreed. Not only in Egypt. There are many, many megalithic sites globally that show re-discovery and re-use. Conventional Archaeology and Egyptology continue to ignore this and forge ahead with their timeline narratives.

    • @rustinpeace770
      @rustinpeace770 4 года назад +1

      Ddub1083 Impossible. The knobs are too small and too narrow for a rope to hold onto

  • @prestonbeauchamp1594
    @prestonbeauchamp1594 4 года назад +6

    You hit it right on. Most certainly a monument dedicated to the souls journey after death. In the ancient Egyptian tradition.

  • @freyja5653
    @freyja5653 4 года назад +3

    Hi Matt I've been blown away with your recent videos, I want to say a very big thank you for all your hard work it is much appreciated. Xx😁

  • @seandonoghue2347
    @seandonoghue2347 4 года назад +22

    I'd like us to completely excavate the plateau and see if this really was "underground"

  • @gizmonomono
    @gizmonomono 4 года назад +2

    I had no idea those moats were 15 meters deep. Fascinating

  • @theelectricorigins846
    @theelectricorigins846 4 года назад +25

    OSL, TSL and the like suffer all from the same problems and assumptions. The process begins when crystalline material is buried by geological processes and supposedly isolated from the environment (light, water, radiation, Ta pressure...). Since that moment, radiation coming from the Earth heats the material (or, sunlight, in the case of the optical luminescence OSL). In both cases, this energizes the particles creating what they call "trapped electrons". With current measurements, a Radiation Absorption Ratio (RDR) is measured that is assumed constant for eons. Subsequently, the samples unearthed by archaeologists are stimulated by heat (TL) or laser (light, OSL) so that the material releases stored radiation (TMRD, Total Measured Radiation Dose). Dividing TMRD between RDR would provide us with the age of the samples.
    How do we know that RDR is constant for billions of years without having measured those ratios more than a few decades ago?
    How do we know that TMRD is correct and that the system remained isolated from the environment (for example, it was not exposed to light or radiation temporarily) and was always in the state in which it was found?
    Lucubrations and presumptions.

    • @thefedge
      @thefedge 4 года назад +4

      This sounds a lot like the issues you could have with the carbon14 dating process, it assumes that there is a consant, interesting !

    • @redwoodcoast
      @redwoodcoast 4 года назад +4

      From watching videos at the Suspicious Observer RUclips channel discussing Coronal Mass Ejections and variations in solar radiation cycles, one has to assume that one CANNOT assume that the past was always uniform and consistent in radiation output from the sun, so if it was not, then that kind of wrecks any dating protocol that counts on it. Does variability not throw a monkey wrench into the spokes of luminescence dating?

    • @theelectricorigins846
      @theelectricorigins846 4 года назад +1

      @@thefedge Yes. ANd any possible dating method to invent will always rely on a Constant ratio (the speed at which the hands of the clock revolve). And noone would have reason to doubt that the speed can change.

  • @openmindeduk
    @openmindeduk 4 года назад +41

    An amazing achievement with Copper Chisels and stone hammers!
    As I speculated many times, I don't believe Egyptians were responsible for the amazing buildings and craftsmanship found in Egypt today. I'm a firm believer that there is part of our past we know absolutely nothing about, so moving those enormous blocks into place with hemp ropes and manpower is an absolutely ridiculous hypothesis in my opinion.
    It's all there in plain sight!

    • @marcusholtzheimer9316
      @marcusholtzheimer9316 4 года назад +2

      Even if seti did make it, it’s incredible and definitely makes the mind wander

    • @openmindeduk
      @openmindeduk 4 года назад +4

      @atheodora lastname
      I did say "PART" of our past we know absolutely nothing about, my friend😉👍

    • @Ddub1083
      @Ddub1083 4 года назад +2

      "open minded" = "absolutely ridiculous hypothesis"

    • @openmindeduk
      @openmindeduk 4 года назад +5

      @@Ddub1083
      Am I not entitled to an opinion? Or do we all have to believe Mr Hawass and friends?
      Thank you for you positive input my friend😉

    • @openmindeduk
      @openmindeduk 4 года назад +8

      @@BluntofHwicce
      Maybe so, but to cut all the blocks needed to build just the great Pyramid, (for one), in 20 years is a theory only supported by Mark Lehner and Hawass. If you watch the video of their team doing just that, they cut about a few centimetres into a block and declare sucsess! Not evidence in my opinion my friend.
      Not to mention the circular hole, "tubedrill" which needed knocking out with a STEEL Chesil.
      Their theory is full of holes, on a practice level and time scale.
      So its worth a rethink my friend. 😉👍

  • @AinSophAur
    @AinSophAur 4 года назад +1

    First well done, convincing, documented video on Osireion I have seen here on RUclips. Generally Osireion is treated as an "alien's" work or a pre dynastic - atlantean remain. I really appreciated this research work of yours. Absolutely amazing.

  • @pip915
    @pip915 6 месяцев назад +1

    I got a feeling that there's something real important deep down In there❤

  • @wearemilesfromnowhere4630
    @wearemilesfromnowhere4630 4 года назад

    I am always keen on catching the technical nuances from observations rather than the focus on the vanity of the pubah of the time in question. This blows my mind. I have to go gather my marbles now. Thank you Matt.

  • @AncientPresence
    @AncientPresence Год назад +1

    Great Video! We are putting together a short on the Osirion and I got curious about how deep the moat is ~ so thank you for the info! When we visited, the sarcophagus room was full of bats and there was a definite vibe to the place.

  • @stevefaure415
    @stevefaure415 4 года назад +10

    Great video! What I've come to find so interesting is how the Osireion, like almost every other megalithic site around the world, seems to have been designed by an entirely different logic, for a purpose that is entirely confounding. It's not like this is clearly a temple or a dwelling at all, it is just bizarrely constructed. Same goes for Saqsaywaman, the Great Pyramids, and on and on and on. It's not just confounding that they were able to make tongue-and-groove monoliths like at 11:07, it's that this to our minds it could only have complicated the construction for no apparent purpose. It's bizarre how prevalent the mysteries are. It's not just a timeline or a science, it's just that they exist, period. It's almost like a game is being played upon the modern world. I suspect if all these eons have passed with the mystery only deeper we are never going to know.

  • @ramitbudhraja1370
    @ramitbudhraja1370 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the video Matt, good summary of the research. I was at the amazing Osirion last week, clearly the highlight of my 17-day Egypt visit. Nothing else comes close in all of Egypt, not even the Valley temple in Giza. imo it has to be pre dynastic

  • @jeffborne1
    @jeffborne1 4 года назад

    Excellent research. Thanks a lot, Matt. This topic should be continued.

  • @stevefisher2553
    @stevefisher2553 4 года назад +1

    Simply INCREDIBLE

  • @derfalschejunge
    @derfalschejunge 4 года назад

    One of the most fascinating ancient buildings in the world for me.

  • @paddybrennan3644
    @paddybrennan3644 4 года назад +10

    Looks to me it was made to create energy
    Quartz granite limestone water produce energy
    Either for healing or power generation

  • @dougg1075
    @dougg1075 4 года назад +24

    They must have had schools for art and mathematics. Crazy

  • @SquashMtb
    @SquashMtb 4 года назад +3

    Based on your video, BTW thxs so much, the ceiling of Osireion is missing which lead me to think that this was build to protect "chosen" people from the elements possible when earth was crossing the Taurids belt.

  • @alexandroslysais1798
    @alexandroslysais1798 4 года назад

    Excellent videos!

  • @lmonk9517
    @lmonk9517 4 года назад +5

    crazy unique site. The water is clearly the factor that must be taken into account when trying to understand the site. If the site was purposely constructed beneath the water table then that means that having it filled with water was very important to the sites original meaning and design. Perhaps a place for ritual cleaning or maybe it was constructed on the site of an important well or spring. I'm not too convinced about the Osiris connection since as far as I can tell water doesn't play a big role in the myths of his burial and resurrection.
    You videos on the Djoser Pyramid tie that construction closely with ground water so perhaps water played a similar role in both structures.

    • @yvettekosta7994
      @yvettekosta7994 2 года назад +1

      I suggest that the closet size sand filled cells along the perimeter are part of a water filtration system. Also, I recall an Osiris myth where Set lures him into trying out a coffin and then tosses him into the Nile to float down river. Later Isis finds him grown into a tree. Hense the water connection.

  • @UltrEgoVegeta
    @UltrEgoVegeta 4 года назад +4

    I tend to lean towards it being older with dynastic additions

  • @futurewolffilms607
    @futurewolffilms607 4 года назад +1

    Read Hamilton's paper and it's excellent work. The biggest problems are the conclusions. More tomb/magic/ mystical BS. Otherwise, fascinating location. And highly functional. Thanks for the video.

  • @axetrax1
    @axetrax1 4 года назад +7

    Could those be geopolymer? The blocks that make up the floor are insane too

  • @GolemiqVrat
    @GolemiqVrat 4 года назад

    Thank You for your effort researching and creating this videos! Really interesting! Thumbs up!

  • @PatriceBoivin
    @PatriceBoivin 4 года назад +3

    My first thought was "as usual I bet no one sent divers into the water to look for hidden openings or to see what may lay at the bottom." Am I right?

  • @sniperic1
    @sniperic1 4 года назад

    You got to hand it to whoever built it, it still exist, and in my thoughts that is just incredibly wow!

  • @gregsmith1719
    @gregsmith1719 4 года назад

    Very interesting! More needs to looked into here! Keep it up, Matthew!

  • @MrChristompa
    @MrChristompa 4 года назад +1

    Amazing

  • @whartonoutdoors7493
    @whartonoutdoors7493 4 года назад +9

    It has never been pumped out or fully explored? I find that odd if it's so important.

    • @trimerybroymar5618
      @trimerybroymar5618 4 года назад +4

      Great question. I'd like to see a snake camera (like a colonoscope) put in those small angled "bore" holes to see what could be detected. Could it be that metal tubes were in those holes only to erode away? Maybe a littler Alvin could probe the depths of the water filled moat to discover divergent corridors as depths were plumbed. Possibly a further probe could ply the bottom to see if hewn rock floor could be detected or sonar at the "bottom" to detect depth of the rock floor of this awesome feat of engineering.
      Great video, Ancient Architects!!!!

    • @CBH250
      @CBH250 4 года назад

      I beleive they have, but it keeps filling up, from some unknown ground source.

    • @whartonoutdoors7493
      @whartonoutdoors7493 4 года назад +1

      @@CBH250 then you'd think there would be better descriptions of the under water section and probably images or video.

  • @grahamstaunton8154
    @grahamstaunton8154 4 года назад +1

    From when I joined your channel i have 2say I lov watching your vdo’’s,,blessings to U and Staff/good Channel M8👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏🙏🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪

  • @andyboofon
    @andyboofon 4 года назад +6

    At 7:00 at the bottom of the picture, there are some what look like ‘odd protuberances’ ?!? Like the ones in Peru at sacsayhuaman? And elsewhere in Egypt I believe?? Keep up the great work👍🏻

    • @WassupWassup123
      @WassupWassup123 4 года назад

      yep, the rock there is carved exactly like in peru

    • @Ddub1083
      @Ddub1083 4 года назад +1

      Rope holds. Its likely to wrap rope around which can be used to provide leverage when moving or positioning the stone. They are found all over the place because ropes are commonly used.

    • @pierrerust2423
      @pierrerust2423 4 года назад

      Very interesting and accurate observation !

  • @flyingpete73
    @flyingpete73 4 года назад

    My favorite site in the world after The Great Pyramid. Beautiful!!!

  • @tomburton2564
    @tomburton2564 4 года назад

    I really enjoy your videos. Please keep up these good works! Thank you.

  • @Fruitylouise
    @Fruitylouise 4 года назад +1

    Logic to me would be that the staircases lead to the top of the water level at the time. So what was there - at the end of the staircase? A small boat perhaps? What if they could control the water levels somehow! Could it be that they would enter a boat, lower the water levels and then be able to access a central chamber inside the island that you would otherwise not be able reach. Like an elevator. There must be a reason for the debth. A moat to me also says that they are trying to protect something and prevent general access. Just my thoughts. - Thank you so much for these kind of videos. Love them.

  • @briananderson2219
    @briananderson2219 4 года назад

    What I think is you have made yet another awesome video! You mentioned maybe doing further video on this I believe you should

  • @gensherman2984
    @gensherman2984 4 года назад +1

    Another great video from the crazy man. 👍

  • @thorncraft3235
    @thorncraft3235 4 года назад

    There are so many unanswered questions about the Giza Plateau it will continue to fascinate and amaze us for decades. 🤔 If only we could build a portable time machine 🤨 thank you for the video 💋

  • @grimmace2131
    @grimmace2131 3 года назад

    I'll have to look to see if you did further videos on this site. Truly fascinating.

  • @arguekayes
    @arguekayes 4 года назад +8

    To me i feel like he Egyptians didnt make much of anything in Egypt, more than likely they discovered it all (most ancient cultures like Egyptians have texts literally saying they inherited and discovered those locations before settling) and maybe they were vary close descendants to the real creators of the pyramids before the Younger dryas but either way they probably made some things but not much. Theres a clear difference between the Old stuff and the New. old being waay more advanced, still a Mystery to us where people today don’t understand how it was made or its use Vs the archaic newer stuff thats waay too simple that anyone could do. Same with the Incas, clear difference in architectural technology. Sharp laser Cut rocks and then Random rocks with Mortar for the more recent structures. Why do most ancient Cultures just lose that Knowledge so easily and Go backwards with learning that technology they’ve Done many times. And why are there carbon copy building techniques 1000s of miles across the Oceans before cross continental ocean traveling was even possible, let alone even possible for those ancient cultures to be doing.

    • @Kingmoney15
      @Kingmoney15 4 месяца назад

      They stole it 🙅🏿‍♂️🙅🏿‍♂️🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🙅🏿‍♂️

  • @pamelasmitley3712
    @pamelasmitley3712 4 года назад

    Amazing video! It must be Pre-dynastic. It's a beautiful and mysterious ancient site. I like the boat theory. I can't wait to see what else will be discovered. Thanks Matt for your detailed analysis. This was a great presentation!

  • @benec5816
    @benec5816 4 года назад

    fantastic great report stay safe look forward to the next see you

  • @anonony9081
    @anonony9081 3 года назад +1

    If you've ever used a hole drill you know how hard it would be to drill on an angle into a flat face like that by hand. You need a lot of pressure to keep the tool from slipping or you need to be able to cut a lot of material rapidly

  • @matthewperry5121
    @matthewperry5121 4 года назад

    Another great video Matt

  • @alexmar5806
    @alexmar5806 4 года назад +1

    Great job Matt!! Everywhere there is Osiris, there is water!! Why?
    What is the relation between the "Osireion", the "Osiris Tomb or Shaft" near the Giza pyramids and the "Tomb of Min" near Luxor that is a replica of the mythical tomb of Osiris???
    Why the Giza plateau was once called “pr wsir nb rstaw”, or “the house of Osiris, Lord of Rastaw”??
    Why all Osiris temples have a protection or enclosure of water, just like the Giza pyramids and sphinx had around them??
    Why three subterranean levels at the "Osiris Shaft"?? What is the meaning? Why the supposed ancient Atlantis had three rings of water?
    So many questions and so few answers...
    Grateful for all the work you have done until now clearing many ancient Egyptian mysteries!! Many questions still remain...
    Alex

  • @57strub
    @57strub 4 года назад +8

    So what could have destroyed these huge stones? The damage is immence.

    • @yuvraj01
      @yuvraj01 4 года назад

      Earthquake? Cataclysmic event like Brian Foerster would say?

  • @bladedreviews
    @bladedreviews 4 года назад

    Yes,definitely! Make another video on this please. Very fasinating!

  • @hexadecimal7300
    @hexadecimal7300 4 года назад +2

    Like so many structures in Egypt it seems to have bits from all over Egyptian history. Thankyou Matt for another thought provoking video. Those small rooms on the periphery make no sense. Maybe there was an intention to install small ish granite boxes to invoke earth lights like the big granite boxes at the serapeum?

  • @klikklakis
    @klikklakis 4 года назад +1

    The lack of accurate orientation of the structure and the size of the blocks could mean it is per-Younger Dryas. The cataclysm that happened at the beginning of the Younger Dryas could explain why it was never finished as the work was interrupted and it was at least decades, if not centuries before work could have continued.

  • @lynnmitzy1643
    @lynnmitzy1643 4 года назад

    All the old sites were built on even older sites, makes sense. If a place has meaning, ofcourse it will somehow be
    re- built. Thanx, Matt ❤⛰❤

  • @KentBDouglas92
    @KentBDouglas92 4 года назад +1

    Why are the recesses not cleared totally I wonder!!! I love your work 100%! Thank you for all your work!

  • @miskovcan
    @miskovcan 4 года назад +2

    1:38 What if actually it is perfectly oriented to the cardinal points, but the poles were somewhere else and have shifted since then. Would it be possible to say where the pole would have been back then and date it by this method? Mario Buildreps is working with this method...

  • @BlankUberEverybody
    @BlankUberEverybody 4 года назад

    Loved it...I think its pre dynastic

  • @ShortbusMooner
    @ShortbusMooner 4 года назад

    It's really a fabulously beautiful site. I have no doubt that it was built on top of another older site. Maybe we'll know for sure, someday..

  • @sjeel-b5414
    @sjeel-b5414 4 года назад

    Very interesting video. Very interesting subject 👍.
    Pré!

  • @vanderbilcovington6850
    @vanderbilcovington6850 2 года назад +1

    While perusing videos of the Osirion, an ancient Egyptian cenotaph located at Abydos, I noticed petroglyphs of very unusual characters with strange features. They could be considered normal humans except for very odd outgrowths near the armpits. These could be easily excused as creative license by the ancient carvers, but Egyptian artist would not add such features without reason. One might think the additions might represent breast but there seems to be only one on each individual. I have not seen such formations on any other depictions except on Osirion petroglyphs.

    Adding to the many mysteries of the Osirion is the fact the site is far older than Egyptologist claim. Beneath the step pyramid is a complex of tunnels and rooms extending for miles beneath the Giza plateau. Construction methods of enormous granite blocks so perfectly fitted, not a sheet of paper can be inserted where the stones meet, suggest a technology far beyond anything known today. Were these enhanced hominids actually an unknown species that shared a technology with humans then left Earth?

  • @jgzambel5261
    @jgzambel5261 Год назад +1

    Boa tarde ,
    Este recinto é incrível !
    Existe alguma informação sobre o que aconteceu ou quando ele foi destruído ?
    São pedras tão robustas em uma escala de tamanho que não consigo imaginar como poderia ter sido demolido .
    Já estava assim em época faraônica ?
    Parabéns pelo trabalho !
    Sucesso sempre !!!

  • @BrodyLuv2
    @BrodyLuv2 4 года назад

    Wow... amazing upload br0!

  • @teresaharris-travelbybooks5564
    @teresaharris-travelbybooks5564 9 месяцев назад +1

    We saw the Osirion but were unable to go down into it as it was closed on the day we were there. The Temple of Seti I was one of my favorite sites in Egypt. Can the water be drained? Or would that cause damage to the Osirion?

  • @josdelijster4505
    @josdelijster4505 4 года назад

    I do hope ypu make another vid a bout this, very interesting... thank you

  • @andrewjohnston4811
    @andrewjohnston4811 4 года назад +1

    You mentioned the Osirion was not aligned to North - South, but failed to mention the deviation angle. What is the deviation angle?

  • @flamencoprof
    @flamencoprof 4 года назад

    How & why it was built is a great question, but I think how & why it was damaged is nearly as great a question.

  • @Robinhood1966
    @Robinhood1966 4 года назад +1

    It appears to be built to handle a tremendous blast pressure, weight, as well as radiation proof if had been completed and sealed with doors that would be of same magnitude as the roof supports. One of many possibilities, but I've not seen many other megaliths built with this heavy of duty pillars, roof, tongue and groove to take one hell of a hit, either by earthquake, or from above, or all of the above.

  •  4 года назад +3

    10:02 I’m very confused on how you leapt from funerary symbols to it holding Osiris’ head lmao 😂 can you elaborate a bit on that part?

  • @SeeUsFly
    @SeeUsFly 4 года назад

    Always interesting!

  • @dougalexander7204
    @dougalexander7204 4 года назад

    I’m a dolt, but thank you Matt and please stay awesome.

  • @baalbaalblacksheep191
    @baalbaalblacksheep191 4 года назад +3

    According to R.A. Schwaller de Lubicz, the Osireion was discovered by the builders of the Seti I temple complex during it's construction, which explains the unusual change in direction to the left of Seti's temple, as it could not be completed as planned. The site was then reclaimed, restored, and repurposed by Seti I. The crude doorway into the 'sarcophagus' room is evidence that it is not part of the original complex !

  • @pierrerust2423
    @pierrerust2423 4 года назад +1

    Some earlier commentators have already noted the "protuberances" that are visible on the granit slabs of the floor of the temple (at 7.00); I heard that sadly some of them have been destroyed during restauration operations undertaken between 2017 and 2018...Many others still are to be found on the northern wall of the temple and appear shortly in Matt's video at 7.00 also. These protuberances as well as some bevel cornered and "curved" angles between the other granit blocks of the Osireion (western wall) are very similar to those found in the Valley Temple near the Sphinx. The same shapes are also found in Latin America at Cuzco or Pisac for example, and many other places. Is this a mere coincidence ?
    It is quite obvious that the contemporaries of Seti 1. "rediscovered" the Osireion and did important restauration work on it. The different elements bearing this pharaoh's name are just examples that reconstruction was done here during his time, but do not support evidence that he had the whole edifice constructed !

  • @mybackhurts7020
    @mybackhurts7020 4 года назад +2

    That water is full of nutrients
    Also the only reason I would build something that thick is to protect myself from something with a water source for long-term stay

  • @josdelijster4505
    @josdelijster4505 4 года назад

    New kingdom seems the right a nswer. Which is amazing in it self and raises some hard questions

  • @soulie1206
    @soulie1206 4 года назад +1

    Interesting video,can we PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE have some definition on the stone used,i love this subject but am getting slightly flummoxed,i mean Sandstone even to a layman should be distinguishable from Granite or Quartzite?
    I am referring to the below ground part of the Osireion which Bren Forester (as you correctly say) states was constructed of the above (Granite or Quartzite) and to me seems Megalithic and pre dynastic,but what do i know,though i hope to learn more.
    The upper Osireion being of Limestone and sandstone is imo Dynastic
    Also re Giza the Great Pyramid,are Hancock Schock and Bauval really saying their of Dynastic Old Kingdom in origin as i hopeful gleamed correctly from your last video?
    I find it still unbelievable how they could be built with the tools they had to hand at that time,built over maybe.
    Keep up the good work.
    Regards.

  • @skama2010
    @skama2010 4 года назад +2

    Pre dynastic for sure. The water table is a big clue. The 110 t granite beams are another. it makes me wonder if the old kingdom pharaohs found all the gold and treasure from a previous civilization when they stumbled upon these monumental marvels 4500 to 5000 years ago.

  • @drtranielpotatoheadm.d9101
    @drtranielpotatoheadm.d9101 4 года назад +2

    Hi from Manchester 👌 :)

  • @laloweed
    @laloweed 4 года назад +3

    So the new dating method, how accurate is it?
    Even carbon dating had been shown to not work the same in all environments.

  • @djedUVprojector
    @djedUVprojector Год назад

    This is the most important site in Egypt as it housed what would later be called the "Ark of the Covenant" on a large Solar Barque that was floated (electrically isolated) in the 2 central pits and ran the full length of the room. There's a large picture illustrating it on the wall of the leading in corridor...

  • @baccy81
    @baccy81 4 года назад +2

    the moat is 15 m deep???? wow

  • @jimmurphy6095
    @jimmurphy6095 4 года назад

    You mention it's off the Cardinal points... perhaps by about 23.5°? Would that alone be enough to push the build date back?

  • @MrVolksbeetle
    @MrVolksbeetle 4 года назад +1

    Any idea how far off the cardinal points it is? That might be a clue.

  • @theconsciousnutshell805
    @theconsciousnutshell805 4 года назад +2

    Anything we can say about it is purely speculative. What I can assert is that all megalithic constructions (around the world,), with its huge blocks and tight fits are predating dynastic Egyptians and Sumerians.

  • @TURNKEYiNK
    @TURNKEYiNK Год назад

    Might have missed it, but I didn’t hear any mention of the etchings of the Flower of Life in the stone(?)

  • @alfredmolison7134
    @alfredmolison7134 4 года назад

    I believe it started out as a water cistern. Obviously pre-dynastic in origins and reworked by later historical dynasties. They probably tried to make it a temple or mausoleum but kept running into problems with water. At different times when the Nile was low the later dynasties thought they had a perfect shrine but only later, after they started having problems with flooding, then they realized the water came from a separate spring or tributary to the Nile. I think something similar happened with the Labyrinth.

  • @azazel1707
    @azazel1707 4 года назад

    Thanks for the great video! It actually featured information and pictures I hadn't heard of or seen :D
    The detailed layout of the entire complex, as well as the recesses was completely new for me. I always wondered where that slightly sloped little hallway would end up :) And I wasn't even aware there was that big 'Sarcophagus Room' 8|
    (And here I was, thinking I already knew most of the things that had been figured out about the structure >.< )
    Actually.. now that I think of it.. most of your info was completely new!
    The dove-tail that had been found with the cartouche of Seti I, the hyroglyphs on the ceiling.. the fact that it runs so deep..!
    Even though a lot of evidence point towards that conventional archaeology seems to be right on this one, I still think the original construction is older than we think. Sure, the stuff we can see now is surely adopted and build upon by the ancient egytians, but I think they just found some ruins themselves and just added on it :) (Like we can see with most ancient cultures like in Baalbek for example)
    The new info in your video makes me believe that even more :D

  • @hazrobson2305
    @hazrobson2305 10 месяцев назад +1

    The Osireion appears to be the foundation of a Pyramid. With the sup structure underground
    as with most of the early Pyramids. Almost ready for the Pyramid to be built on top. Have the
    stones been hauled away to build the later Temple? With the discovery of an older temple under
    The Abydos Temple.

  • @kdonovan3129
    @kdonovan3129 4 года назад

    You should watch praveen mohan videos of the water flow stuff in ancient India temples

  • @rockybettas5839
    @rockybettas5839 4 года назад +1

    That place looks like it would have a creepy feel to it.. And 50ft deep! Dang!!!

  • @hazrobson2305
    @hazrobson2305 Год назад +1

    Has the Osireion been built, first as a pyramid and then been lost in time? Then been quarried at a later date to build a temple? Only to realize what they have found? Just the passageway is covered with hieroglyphs but the Osireion has little to none! And is there more to find?

  • @S-Ltd1000
    @S-Ltd1000 4 года назад

    That water looks grim!

  • @thepolyhobbyist
    @thepolyhobbyist 4 года назад

    Try reading the great book by wallis e budge, Egyptian magic.
    Its a good introduction to understanding Egyptian symbolism and why it might be regarded as the toom of Osiris.
    As always great video :)

  • @pacospete4299
    @pacospete4299 4 года назад

    Like the Giza Plateau and many other reworked sites, water is the key. The Osireion , possibly a cooling chamber !!!

  • @robertevans8126
    @robertevans8126 Год назад

    Well my friends, this place "Osirion" was mentioned by "Strabo" way back when, and is / was a cannel, to somewhere? It has all of he scooped Blocks of Stone, all of the Stone Pegs, and Puffy Blocks of Stone we see everywhere else, on this channel, and on others. This center Island goes down 15 meters, or more, underneath the water!

  • @pachomiussinanicus1728
    @pachomiussinanicus1728 4 года назад

    it is sad that such marvellous structure did not exist in Ubisoft’s AC origin