The Amarok really impresses me so far. They uses ABS/Traction control system to apply brakes on spinning floating wheels so that power is not wasted on wheels that are not touching the ground. This puts power on the wheels that are grounded and moves it forward even without added momentum. The Patrol is just old school 4x4 with large articulation and a special set of off-road tyres that gives more grip offroad. Amarok is better balance off-road and on-road. Because the vehicle has IFS and road going tyres.
+James B These vehicles are such different animals, the balance will always come down to the owners requirements. Personally, and from an offroading point of view, I'm not a fan of the Amarok at all. They're great on highway but off road are seriously lacking torque, it's panels are too low begging to be hit on rocks, and the factory rear locker is weak. Traction control systems are handy for the casual driver but for regular off road abuse, nothing is as good as a locker.
yocaha1 I think that the Amarok is innovative as it is able to keep up with a full-fletch off-roader with less articulation, lesser power and without a low-range gearbox. Plus, the car is way more comfy. As for the traction control system in Amarok, I would argue that it is better because it is easier to drive and equally effective. I mean with this system you never lose steering control. Unlike a lock-diff, which as to be activated manually and turn off as soon as possible so that you won't strain the drivetrain.
The VW traction control is one of the most refined around, along with the virtual diff lock computer program, but at the end of the day you can't beat the solid and predictable feel of mechanical lockers.
Couldn't agree more. TC is a fantastic out of the box solution for the common traction issues people face on the trails, but when you want to go serious *regularly*; diff lockers ;-)
Front recovery point custom made. Fitted by 69rollarok in Sydney. I could make one but it will set you back $2k and is not approved. Transfers load to chassis members. I can winch off the front or back using a 9000Lb cradle winch.
By comparison to the Patrol I'd say the main factor is a limited amount of articulation available in the Amarok's suspension. It's a common drawback to IFS vehicles when traversing uneven terrain - and affects some IFS vehicles more than others.
Just came back from first trip with my amarok. Love it. However, have that same clunking/cracking noise when the rear wheels/suspension get up high over rough terrain. Horrible noise. Is this normal???
I don't own an Amarok but it does seem to be a common thing. Do take it easy on the rear drive line as the factory locker seems fragile and a very expensive repair.
Doesn't the patrol have lockers? Also, does the Amarok TC control the front axle while the rear locker is on or does engaging the diff lock disable the TC?
I believe my Amarok tc controls all 4 wheels unless you select rear diff lock, then the tc is only on the front. The tc takes a second to find the grip where the lockers get instant traction, but it's easier to maneuver with tc than diff lockes.
Hey I'm an Amarok owner. Have a manual. What mods have you made to the Amarok? I want to get it into some heavier off-road stuff like you're doing here. Mine is currently stock. How much did you lift it and what size wheels did you go to?
+potsy231983 Amarok has 32's, rear locker, traction control and 35mm suspension lift (King/Bilsteins). I filmed it, not sure if the driver checks here anymore.
.......nun ja.....der Amarok ist schon ein sehr vernünftiges Auto....besonders in seiner Variablität.....gegenüber den meisten anderen Geländewagen.....zumal er im Alltag auf Grund seiner Vielseitigkeit....Auf- u. Anbauten anpassungsfähiger ist....als zum Beispiel der G von Mercedes Benz den ich selber mit langem Radstand gefahren habe......und einfach nicht die modernen Eigenschaften besitzt die die heutigen Geländewagen haben.....stammt er aus den 70iger Jahren d. v. Jahrhunderts.....fahre ich heute einen California, weil ich andere Ansprüche habe......
+khalid alj We got a new Amarok at work and I thought it seems really powerful for what it is. Obviously I wasn't driving it off road and it had no load at the time but it felt like it sure could handle it.
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The Amarok really impresses me so far.
They uses ABS/Traction control system to apply brakes on spinning floating wheels so that power is not wasted on wheels that are not touching the ground.
This puts power on the wheels that are grounded and moves it forward even without added momentum.
The Patrol is just old school 4x4 with large articulation and a special set of off-road tyres that gives more grip offroad.
Amarok is better balance off-road and on-road. Because the vehicle has IFS and road going tyres.
+James B These vehicles are such different animals, the balance will always come down to the owners requirements. Personally, and from an offroading point of view, I'm not a fan of the Amarok at all. They're great on highway but off road are seriously lacking torque, it's panels are too low begging to be hit on rocks, and the factory rear locker is weak. Traction control systems are handy for the casual driver but for regular off road abuse, nothing is as good as a locker.
+James B I prefer Nissan Patrol, Has more traction and better rear and front balance. If you see Amarok always has the lef or right tire in the air.
yocaha1 I think that the Amarok is innovative as it is able to keep up with a full-fletch off-roader with less articulation, lesser power and without a low-range gearbox. Plus, the car is way more comfy.
As for the traction control system in Amarok, I would argue that it is better because it is easier to drive and equally effective. I mean with this system you never lose steering control. Unlike a lock-diff, which as to be activated manually and turn off as soon as possible so that you won't strain the drivetrain.
+James B try to see video hilux SW4 X Amarok, then you going to understand.
low range in my 2011 amarok
LOVE THE AMAROK!
Amarok is an intelligent 4wd-
Nice driving from both vehicles. I have to say that Amarok is really impressive..
The VW traction control is one of the most refined around, along with the virtual diff lock computer program, but at the end of the day you can't beat the solid and predictable feel of mechanical lockers.
Couldn't agree more. TC is a fantastic out of the box solution for the common traction issues people face on the trails, but when you want to go serious *regularly*; diff lockers ;-)
Bmw also make some pretty effective tcs, also land rover but only in the “real” 4x4 not the haldex, i don’t know why tho
Both 4x4s are impressive, well done boys. Hope there's good under-body protection on that VW, that was a decent bang haha.
I think I would just drive on the flat track next to the big muddy ditch
Amarok is nice I'm impressed
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That Amarok is pretty good impressive. It's killing the Patrol.
The front Recovery point on the Amarok. Where and who fitted it. I would love to know as I'm finding it hard to find out.
Front recovery point custom made. Fitted by 69rollarok in Sydney. I could make one but it will set you back $2k and is not approved. Transfers load to chassis members. I can winch off the front or back using a 9000Lb cradle winch.
69rollarok Since then I found this www.rhino4x4.com.au/amarok-front-bar It costs more obviously but dam it looks good.
The amarok comes standard with rear locker. Yes the traction control works at the front with the locker on.
You would think there would be very few occasions you would require front lockers given that is the case. Becoming a big fan of the Amarok.
That amarok certainly likes getting on three wheels.. is that just because of he's driving line?
By comparison to the Patrol I'd say the main factor is a limited amount of articulation available in the Amarok's suspension. It's a common drawback to IFS vehicles when traversing uneven terrain - and affects some IFS vehicles more than others.
glenep Plus very firm king springs on the front struts. Its fun though.
glenep U should go into your video and add the 'camera shake fix' option mate it will smooth it out heaps ;D
Wow Im impressed... What size tyres are you running on the Amarok??? Too bad there are not many rim choices out there for the Rok's....
32's and Alutec E 17" rims.
Just came back from first trip with my amarok. Love it. However, have that same clunking/cracking noise when the rear wheels/suspension get up high over rough terrain. Horrible noise. Is this normal???
I don't own an Amarok but it does seem to be a common thing. Do take it easy on the rear drive line as the factory locker seems fragile and a very expensive repair.
Adam Watson It's more than likely the Electronic Diff Lock (EDL) working away...
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just traction control doing its thing, and amaroks have an electronically activated mechanical rear diff lock much like an eaton e locker
It's a feature, it brakes wheels not touching the floor.
Wow.. that is impressive with the Amarok. Is it the 8speed auto with no low range or manual with low range? Thanks Mike NZ
I think it was manual, but the low gear is pretty pathetic, one of the weak points of the Amarok IMO. Goes great on roads though.
Doesn't the patrol have lockers? Also, does the Amarok TC control the front axle while the rear locker is on or does engaging the diff lock disable the TC?
These Patrols don't come standard with lockers, only a rear LSD. Hopefully one of the Amarok fans can answer your TC question...
I believe my Amarok tc controls all 4 wheels unless you select rear diff lock, then the tc is only on the front. The tc takes a second to find the grip where the lockers get instant traction, but it's easier to maneuver with tc than diff lockes.
Hey I'm an Amarok owner. Have a manual. What mods have you made to the Amarok? I want to get it into some heavier off-road stuff like you're doing here. Mine is currently stock. How much did you lift it and what size wheels did you go to?
+potsy231983 Amarok has 32's, rear locker, traction control and 35mm suspension lift (King/Bilsteins). I filmed it, not sure if the driver checks here anymore.
Awsome Rok!!! GO VDUB!!
i hava a question, i own a VW Amarok with the 180hp engine.
Mine is a automatic, would this be a bad thing to do even if you use the manual setting?
+Robin Helder - the 4motion auto will be better I suspect. Select S1 or Manual 1 - you will be fine
Very Good for any mod
amarok all the way. great car
whats the canopy on the amarok?
Amarok truly is the wolf in sheeps clothing
Hi! I am very proud that the Amarok is assembly in Argentina. I have one question which is the entire numbers of the wheels? : 32" x ?? x 17".
Thaks
Cooper S/T MAXX 265/70R17 and Alutec E 17x8 rims
Dad's got the same model patrol, i have the same model Amarok
My s 8 speed auto gear box it so good and don't make any noise
Imagine the 580😎😊
Супер
amarok Best Quality of picaps 4x4
А ведь большинство амарок не признают амарок как внедорожник, а зря!!!
Y pensar q se fabrica en la Argentina.... un caño la amarok
Cadê os que falam mal da amarok
Tô aqui kkk
The Patrol doesn't have TC
.......nun ja.....der Amarok ist schon ein sehr vernünftiges Auto....besonders in seiner Variablität.....gegenüber den meisten anderen Geländewagen.....zumal er im Alltag auf Grund seiner Vielseitigkeit....Auf- u. Anbauten anpassungsfähiger ist....als zum Beispiel der G von Mercedes Benz den ich selber mit langem Radstand gefahren habe......und einfach nicht die modernen Eigenschaften besitzt die die heutigen Geländewagen haben.....stammt er aus den 70iger Jahren d. v. Jahrhunderts.....fahre ich heute einen California, weil ich andere Ansprüche habe......
Geezuz the patrol needs a front locker - terrible drive
amarok😎😎
Amarok large size and the engine torque is small and weak
+khalid alj We got a new Amarok at work and I thought it seems really powerful for what it is. Obviously I wasn't driving it off road and it had no load at the time but it felt like it sure could handle it.
European car failed in four-wheel drive
What the fuck are you talking about you fucking idiot?
no no no the nissan best then à Maroc.
what canopy is on the amarok?
From caddys .. Go to Caddy Canopies and have a look at amrok Ones
thanks man