SHE BUFFS ERUDITION! | Jade Pre-Release Guide - Best Relics, Lightcones & Teams | Honkai: Star Rail
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- Опубликовано: 18 июн 2024
- In this video, Sho presents a full detailed Build guide for Jade, How her abilities work, her best Relics, Lightcones and a bit more emphasis on Teams. Watch the video to know more...
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0:00 Intro
0:15 Overview
0:36 Traces Explained
2:23 Trace Priority
2:44 Passives
3:16 Bonus Stats
3:28 Eidolons
5:12 Best Relics
6:17 Stat Goals
6:57 Lightcones
7:11 E1 Vs Lightcone
8:20 Rotations
9:08 Synergies
12:39 Best Supports
13:04 Hypercarry Jade
13:43 Conclusion
13:56 Outro
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🔴Alright! Since Jade hasn't officially released yet, some terminology may differ when she does, but the overall build will remain the same. Video was supposed to be released a few hours ago, but I had to double check everything, so it took a little longer than expected. I hope there is nothing wrong with this video😅
Blade and Jade basically gives each other stacks. One reason why I am pulling for her since I skipped Argenti (and since Blade is my favorite).
Wait a sec. Blade, jingliu, and Jade?? Oh yea and also a healer
Huohuo@@BarbaraisBest
@@BarbaraisBest Aventurine Jade Blade Jingliu
@@VakPa88 Aventurine is anti-synergistic with Blade owing to him being a shielder.
Luocha is the best healer for this team.
Idk why everyone keeps forgetting that Clara is also a rly good debt collector target, he skill is an aoe and she can collect stacks for jade whenever she's attacked and whenever her ult is up
Attacked or gets hp loss from Jade? 😵💫 depends on the trigger
@@jakefrost8017Clara does follow up attacks when enemy hit her
@@existentialcrisisgang8074 yeah, so can jade trigger it?
@@jakefrost8017 your English confuses me but if you're asking if Jade gets stacks from Clara's fuas, then yes
Clara is one of the better options. However I think the reason she isnt mentioned as much is due to the fact that the "meta" people are absolutely obsessed with trying to do everything in 1 turn (ore as close to) so characters that require the enemy to have actions arent appreciated as much.
Which ofcourse is far from real gameplay as every time I see a "meta" team without healer or tank I cringe as those teams basically are made for grindcontent which can be done with any team :P
If you get her to E1, her potential synergies increase a lot. It essentially makes it so each time the debt collector attacks, you're guaranteed at least 3 stacks, even if it's a single target attack. For example, if you use it on Clara, you get 5 stacks when she uses her skill, but also 3 stacks every time Clara gets attacked, which can add up a lot faster than essentially anyone other than probably Herta. To note that she can't overstack herself like Xueyi, so getting 3+5 stacks from a Clara FuA + skill is the same result as 5+5 from Herta skill + Talent, for example. Although probably not super optimal, you can also use her in MOC with a Topaz or Ratio, which should be able to stack her up quite fast too.
Her e1 makes her viable with Single target which is why im aiming for her e1.. i dont have any good erudition guys
Oh so her e1 far better than s1 eh@@Jackington208
Whoever the fuck put Gallagher, Misha, and Xueyi on the Firefly/Ruan Mei banners, start running
Well that's how they get you
Gallagher could be on Boothill banner. But ofc Scumverse prefers Fireflop
Very high quality video and thumbnail 👍
Keep up the great work
Thanks, will do!
Def love her kit and I can def see getting her on rerun for my Blade
jade and herta goes boom now, omg... i'm gonna wait for her
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“Never use it on herself” is somewhat wrong. When she uses the skill on herself, when hitting enemies she gains double the fua stacks
Well I talked about it a bit with the hypercarry jade section
@@ShoXpress..oops
Thank you. I was wondering if her skill can give Blade extra stack when he attacks. Now I wonder if it's good to use Salsotto on him now that he can trigger his follow up attacks one stack faster than before.
I will say that her E1 will make her viable for a second dps in the new Solo boss mode. I'm not sure if it had been tested with Jing Yuan's Lightning Lord (if at 10 stacks does each one count of the stacked attacks up to the 10 or once after all the hits are done) or Topaz/Numby but I'm interested in if the summon also triggers Debt Collector.
For the 200% crit damage is that including her 120% from her buff or before? I'm assuming from her gear then she can get gassed up to 320% crit?
Yes I've included the 120%...
@@ShoXpress OK, I do have a suggestion for future videos. Maybe put the stats before to aim for on gear with the stat from their personal buffs after. For example if you said aim for 70% crit rate and 56-80% (200% after new Planer set or not) or put an * with the reminder she gains 120% from her kit and another 24% from the new Planer set it could be easier to understand.
I want to ask, as you mention several times that ATK is better than DMG boost for Jade, why then do you recommend a quantum DMG orb rather than an ATK orb?
As an E2S1 Acheron haver, and planning to pull Jiaoqiu, I am fully planning to pull Jade as a sub-DPS for my Acheron team, and no one can stop me lmao 🔥👌
I’m pulling her simply for the blade synergy. I like using him a lot.
Does Jade buffing Robin during her ultimate make it so basically all units that attack trigger both Jade's and Robin's passives which would in turn make it at least somewhat viable to use it with some single target units like Topaz?
Yeah Topaz is great with Jade e1
If your asking if jade gains stacks from robins extra damage, then no she doesn't since it isn't an attack but is instead extra damage that is added onto an attack like Herta's extra spins, Acheron's slashes or Tingyun's benediction.
If it did work then tingyun buffing robin would cause an infinite damage loop.
The only way to use her with single targets would be getting E1.... which should have been base kit.
I actually think jade will pair really well with topaz due to the fact that she’s a follow up attacker and all her attacks count as follow ups. Also every time a follow up atk hits an enemy with the mark, numby procs which means as long as you have team mates with follow up atks, she will be constantly attacking. This makes her an amazing pair with jade. My current team is Jing Yuan, Topaz, HTB, and adventurine. Once I get jade, I will be switching out HTB for more consistent follow up attacks. Topaz is my sub dps/ support for jing yuan. I hope diamond (ipc leader) is either a dedicated support buffer/debuffer, or a very strong follow up atk dps. Would be cool having a full ipc team! Anyways, I hope this sheds some light for anyone with topaz wondering if jade would be a good pair or not! Good luck on ur summons everyone!
The E1 dmg calculation doesnt take into account the extra stacks part right?
I may be reading into this wrong, it says her passive crit dmg is 120%, so in order to reach 200 I only need about 80?
So E1 means i can use topaz, aventurine, robin, and jade? If thats the case i will need to go for that since I invested a lot of time into building these guys and dont really care for dr ratio much
I would try to win for that E1 before S1 but nah, I’d try my luck on RM first(I’m pretty near guaranteed)
im struggling to decide if i want to pull ruan mei or jade. I have robin and i find moc fine as it is but could do with some help in pure fiction, so jade would be perfect, but would i have to pull for her light cone or eidolons to make jade useful enough? i am 1000% pulling for jiaquo for my acheron team so i dont know if i can really pull for both ruan mei and jade. any advice? (my only 5* harmony is robin)
If you’re planning to pull for FF or Boothill then pull RM since she has more value, from leaks the newer dps are break related Jade is mainly for PF you can go for the herta lc for her also
Can I use Robin with jade or is it not a good idea
With all of this being said, while it was pointed out that putting Jade and Dr. Ratio together doesn't seem to be the best option, and there's still time to judge after she releases, of course
But so far, is Dr. Ratio, Aventurine, Robin and Jade a good team comp? I didn't get Topaz and I'm looking for a good unit to fill in the 4th slot, since Jade does use follow-up attacks it seems like it could work
Jade works with hunt on her E-
@@user-je8gn2fz7b ah, must've missed that
@@user-je8gn2fz7bmore ebemies you hit more stacks you get so better just use argenti/herta
Jade in the team is decent as long as you get E1 jade, it isn't as good as topaz but still decent, in pure fiction like 15% better then a topaz. The only problem is that Dr ratios personal damage would fall a lot without a debuffer to fill out his debuff needs, eg pela or silverwolf. If you like Jade and seeing funny amount of follow up attacks go ahead.
@@Yummymarshy thank you! Unfortunately, I'm not planning on getting her E1, so that might be a problem. I do enjoy the idea of having a bunch of follow-up attacks, but in terms of damage, is there any other unit you could recommend? Aside from the ones you've already listed
What about with sparkle? For the mono quantum team
I’ll probably just pull her up to e1 and mainly use her with Blade
My E6S2 Blade:
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S2? That’s an odd place to stop at.
@@apleb7605 I actually wanted to go for Mei's light cone and noticed a little too late 😅
Will Duran, Dynasty of running wolves and the new follow up attack relic be good for Jing Yuan?
No, because you have to fua 5 times to get maximum buff which jingyuan doesn't do
Its made for frequent fua character like himeko, herta, jade, topaz and dr. Ratio
Second Jade video in a row I've watched where they say that her Blast Basic is the first of it's kind.......SERVAL EXISTS!!!!
You need to inflict shock to get the blast so no, it isn't, Jade has the first unconditional blast basic attack in the game
Xueyi will be interresting with her !
The only issue there is jade fua breaking which doesn't benefit xueyi much. Usually xueyi is better as the main source of aoe break potential
@@ghostofnihility yeah your right , but i think they both will fuel each others stack to trigger fua against quantum week ennemies , potentielly triggering the fua super often
@maximeallard5282 it has more potential with e6 xueyi due to her lower stacks meaning higher dmg output so you simply kill quicker. I'm not saying it's impossible, but would need some fine tuning. Still an interesting concept to consider
@@ghostofnihility Oh definetly need E6 , but i do have her E6 :p
The fight to pull for E0S1 is a struggle. I really want Jade, but really depends on Jiaoqiu eidolons and LC. Ahhhhh
She's heavily PF-oriented unit (outside of being an another huge Jing Yuan buff for any content lol). She opens some crazy combos, like, for example, you can now go Himeko/Herta/Jade/sustain and free Ruan Mei for your 2nd squad, she's compensating RM's lack of buffs and covers Quantum for Himeko breaks (and of course you put her E on Herta and enjoy FUAs every turn)... though a lesser break efficiency w/o Ruan Mei might be a drawback but I think it won't be big. Also she allows you to go the usual HimErta with Ruan Mei on one side and pari Jade with Blade on other side, they should be a really good combo for PF.
Her E1 enables her for a current FUA-team, it makes single-target debt collectors as effective as Erudition ones and probably even more with all their FUAs and Ultimates.
The only question is, will we see PF changes or not. For now, looking at the upcoming Apocalyptic Shadow, I have a feeling PF is the easiest way to get 800 jades. If it stays so, you kinda can try and go with HimErta for a few patches more. But if they somehow rework it and HimErta won't be enough... and there's a bunch of potentially good characters upcoming in 2.4 and later. Jade might be a bait tbh. Also pulling her is a morally questionable thing lol.
Yeah, fair point
Not like herta/argenti are way better options for her than jy 😂😂😂
@@kitsuchii6809, well Argenti is a PF monster by himself, I don't think he needs her.
They nerf her E! xD, it was too OP. Before it was gain double stacks for any attacks lol. But her E6 is busted!! I was gonna get her E1, but since they changed it, I will get her LC instead. But later on, she will be my first E6 character. It will take a few years though lol.. AND the Duran 2Pc is a must for my Clara!! The other FUA sets Ult damage was useless on her, and she will stack the passive really fast.
Blade is my fav character so I hope jade makes him stronger.
As an f2p, I have dr ratio, himeko, Clara and robin. I am planning to pull jade! But I need more ice elementals dps/value like ruan Mei beside Herta 😭
Please help me decide
I think the point of her E1 is to make her work in MoC and AS, and is probably best with Topaz or Dr. Ratio.
I really think this should’ve been in her base kit, though.
So I think her E1 is the better investment, since it makes her much more useful overall, and pulls her out of the PF niche.
Trueee
What about the new 2.3 relic set that comes out is that also good for her?
It's VERY bad, just farm duke
The new ornament is good but salsotto can work
It was changed it's quite literally useless now unless they change it again
Not worth farming it according to how it looks currently
I will pull her to E1 and use Herta LC, best value imo for your account :)
Good choice! but i don't think her E1 will change much
@@ShoXpress it makes teambuilding more flexible, not restricted to mostly just erudition characters, the extra dmg is nice too though
I'm surprised you didn't put Tingyun as 4 star option support who can do help her energy issue
I didn't put her because in a dual DPS team you would want a team wide harmony support, and tingyun is single Target
What do you think about Qingque for the carry role with Jade. Seems like they could be really good together.
Wellllll.... I don't know that, because literally don't care about qingque, so I didn't bother testing any simulations😅😅😅 but well she can be decent with jade, if you are lucky
Every one wants Ruan mei...I wish I got Robin but I missed out, maybe another will come around
Welllll, I think you should go for her now, if not, you might need to wait for another half a year or even more
Is Jade E0 S0 still good?
yes 😊
What about the new set, the Wind Soaring Valorous? Is it better than the Ashblazing Grand Duke for her?
It's for ultimate damage, which is not her major source of damage
Idk about that set, maybe Yanqing ult boost more suitable than Jade
is clara good with jade? compared to herta and argenti
She is great, but not as good as them
She’s so cool but I really want firefly
it literally says "This Follow-up attack does not generate Charge" yet you kept saying her ultimate/turn also depends on how many FuA's she does. ???
maybe Charge = her talent? and not Energy?
@@arizepam that's not at all what this is about. This is about ultimate/turn rotation. manchmal wenn man keine ahnung hat, einfach mal fresse halten
@@Burix1337 First of all rude. Second of all, she can generate stacks with her ultimate and with her basic attack which is what they were referring too.
@@sittingcrowd912 do u understand basic English? in the video he literally said that her ult rotation per turn is based on how many FuAs she gets, which again does not matter since she can't gain charge. ergo this is an error. now go fuck yourself 😁✌️
@@sittingcrowd912 do you understand basic english? He literally said that her ult/turn rotation depends on how many FuA's she does, which again, doesn't work. Some ppl smh
My pulling reason for jade:
MOMYYYYYYYY
AMEN
I need Jade bc i don't have a quantum 5 star DPS
Skipping her but pulling her lightcone for Herta
The new free shop light cone is also not bad, could save you a lot of jades.
Herta's own 4 star lc is really good at S5 and if you don't have it use can use S1 milky way
To make use of the 2nd part of jade's lc you have to basic which is a dmg loss imo
I would investigate whether Jing Yuan's is still BiS.
You cant demote Argenti to a debt collector. He'd somehow turn Jade into the debt collector and also owe him money 🤑
wouldn't basic attack have priority over skill?
That's what I thought
Her basic is going to do some meaningful dmg too I think
What about the new relics I'm 2.3? It's not good?
Nah it's for ultimate damage
@@ShoXpress oh I see thanks. Gonna have to count on Sunday then lol
Argenti wants to be insi I MEAN beside her
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even if topaz not good with her i still using her with topaz
Sure go for, Just play what you like
Wouldn't recommend it unless you pulled Jade's e1
Or try it you'll see what I'm talking abt
@@sin9148I know what you are talking about
So she is another Jing Yuan buff. Trio Quantum Jing Yuan comp here we go. Jing Yuan - Fu Xuan - Sparkle - Jade will be an insane team.
Sure 😊
Yet another buff for jing yuan😂
I'm skipping her because I'm pulling Firefly then Yunli, then Jiaoqiu. Wanna know what I'll be missing hehe
I assume that the EffRES is because you do NOT want her to be debuffed. If she's CC'd for example, she can't make anyone a debt collector to buff their damage output. I would also assume that Jade can't FUA or gain charges while CC'd.
im gonna use her with clara my beloved
Oh yeah, I missed mentioning her in the video, but she is actually really good with Jade
So she is not good with seele?
AOE my friend
@@ShoXpress 🥲
Great vid but my jades are gone 😭😭😭
Just beleive 😇
"ABSURD DAMAGE"
Well I was making this thumbnail at 2:30 AM midnight, I was super tired from editing the video, my brain was fried, so I just took that phrase from one of my older videos😅
QQ Buff
Imagine if ppl will build breake/crit jade instead 😂😂😂
Them: good damage, FUA enabler
Me: STEP ON ME PLEASE...
"It's not because the damage with Jade is great, that's just Acheron being Acheron." Never heard more truth in my life.
I'm so glad I saved for her and was able to E6 her. She shattered the game.
Her LC can be usrd for other Eruditions like Himeko and Herta and its really op on them
Aventurine stonks rising every patch even tho he dropped in 2.1 😂
Yeah 😅
Too bad, because i don't care about her at all
How many purple themed chicks are we going to get? Geez
honkai effect 😢 there was almost a full year in honkai impact 3rd where every new character was purple + white
I actually think jade will pair really well with topaz due to the fact that she’s a follow up attacker and all her attacks count as follow ups. Also every time a follow up atk hits an enemy with the mark, numby procs which means as long as you have team mates with follow up atks, she will be constantly attacking. This makes her an amazing pair with jade. My current team is Jing Yuan, Topaz, HTB, and adventurine. Once I get jade, I will be switching out HTB for more consistent follow up attacks. Topaz is my sub dps/ support for jing yuan. I hope diamond (ipc leader) is either a dedicated support buffer/debuffer, or a very strong follow up atk dps. Would be cool having a full ipc team! Anyways, I hope this sheds some light for anyone with topaz wondering if jade would be a good pair or not! Good luck on ur summons everyone!
Topaz would only give Jade 1 FUA counter per attack, since she only hits one target.
Maybe with E1 Jade it would work though, bc you'll them get 3 per attack.