Daenerys receives an unexpected visitor; Jon faces a revolt; Tyrion plans the conquest of Westeros. Ben, John, Cenk, and Matt discuss S7E2 "Stormborn".
The Dire Wolf scene, with the line "That's not you," is a throw back to season 1 when Ned is saying Arya should marry a lord, wear a dress, and live in a castle, and Arya says "That's not me." What she is saying when Nymeria walks away is similar, going back with Arya after all the time that has passed, to live at winterfell as some faithful companion is not what Nymeria is anymore, she has her own life and family.
'It's not you' was a call back to the conversation Arya had with Ned in Season 1 where he told here she could marry a lord and run his castle to which she said, ' That's not me.' You guys are really bad at this 🙄 Try watching 'Inside the Episode' before you record these reviews guys
You shouldn't have to watch supplemental materials to understand - or interpret - what's going on. I'm not saying the scene is "lazy," or "bad" or even that it's difficult to read that into what she said without the context of the earlier conversation - but "you guys should watch the supplemental materials" is a really weak shot criticism. All works *will* stand on their own for many consumers, especially if they don't have the time or inclination to look into peripheral media. Ever hear of "Death of the Author"? It's nobody's responsibility to view the "making ofs" that's ridiculous.
@futurestoryteller - maybe Josie0 worded it wrong, but it wasn't just in the supplemental materials, it was in the show. In Season 1 (and in book 1) Ned told Arya she'd marry a great lord, and Arya said "That's not me." Now of course, I don't remember everything that happened, and I don't expect anyone else to - but before I'm gonna look like a fool on youtube, I'd maybe, you know, google it? Just a thought.
Gweniver Call Yes. I could have worded it better. That was a call back to a very important scene for Arya's character. You'd think they'd remember it. I didn't need to watch the 'inside the episode' to know what Arya meant, but obviously casual viewers did, because I've seen a lot of confusion about her meaning online since the episode aired. And yeah, the writing has gone downhill since they don't have source material to draw from. That is definitely a problem.
Jaime was "racist" ? Yeah, pretty sure he's not worried about the Dothraki's skin color, and pretty sure he doesn't fear them 'cause they're different, it's more about that little detail that, you know, they're a massive foreign army coming to pillage, rape and conquer the continent. It's not about them being "different", it's quite simply that they are at war with them. Last time I checked, being invaded was not super pleasant.
Jacqueline T. Frankovich The Dothraki have been infamous for centuries for doing nothing but sweeping across fields and plains and plundering all the cities and raping all of the women. Don't pretend we haven't seen these exact behaviors from them since Season 1 Episode 1.
Yep. Jacqueline makes the best point. This isn't just Jaime going to Lancel or someone and talking about the need to slaughter foreigners. We know for a fact that Randall Tarly is a bigot and would respond to that specific message.
"It's not you" isn't any of those things -- it's Arya recognizing that the life with her in Winterfell isn't the life for Nymeria. It's paralleling when Ned is talking to Arya about all the things she needs to do to fit in and be a woman and she says to him, "it's not me." She's recognizing the fact that Nymeria is not ever going to be a domesticated wolf any more than Arya is ever going to be the kind to settle down and fit in.
Did they miss the joke with Sam and the Maester writing the book? "The Chronicles of Battle after the death of Robert Baratheon" "I think you need something more...poetic..." .....like... Game of Thrones... Because essentially thats what he's writing 😊
I think if anything he was thinking "A Song of Ice and Fire" he never heard the phrase "Game of Thrones" and it's actually not a very poetic title. - Though certainly vastly more poetic than what the Maester had in mind.
Oh sorry yes certainly your right 😊. Never the less i did chuckle when it came up. Though itll be an irritatingly cheesey ending if the final scene is the Maester titling his novel...
"A Song of Ice and Fire", "Game of Thrones", "Storm of Sword", "Clash of Kings", "Feast for Crows", "Winds of Winter", all nice names given the context we know.
The "It's not you,'" is a direct callback to season one when Arya talked to her father. When he told her about a possible future of marrying and being domesticated, she says, "It's not me." That's what she meant. Nymeria is not someone who goes with humans, she is a free wolf and is on her own with her pack. Same with Arya, she is a free Stark with her own goals.
"Or maybe Sansa will be killed by littlefinger" Let's just ignore character development, and story progression and assume the show will do the same four or five things over and over.
There's also the possibility of Euron betraying Cersei for Danny. He did say he wanted to marry the most beautiful woman in the world. He didn't name Cersei as the woman explicitly.
Robert M Can see him betraying Cersei, but I can't see Dany trusting him at all. But when he said he wanted to marry the most beautiful woman in the world I thought he meant Dany after what he said in season 6
Robert M After killing Dany's allies, there's no possibility of him joining her. That ship has literally sailed. The preview for next week seems to show him back in King's Landing, being welcomed as a hero. I assume he has Ellaria and Yara in chains. Lady Olenna is up next. Randyl will betray her. It bothers me that apparently she doesn't have any spies that would let her know Tarly was summoned by Cersei. I also don't buy the, "I come when my queen summons me" response either. That Queen murdered the former queen and your lord. I think Olenna's "revenge" is pretty freaking justified.
tyrion's plan is GREAT they just took too long to do it. they should have come up with this plan as they were sailing and then went and collected their army BEFORE going to dragonstone. sigh now they have no choice but to go in full force with their numbers deminished. this episode had me PISSED. my team cant win! come on jon join dany and save the day!
They weren't always mute. Euron wanted some peace and quite and his crew was too loud. So, he cut all their tongues out and rechristened his flagship, The Silence. Euron has stared into the Abyss and the Abyss stared back and they fell in love. Blackbeard+Joker + Cthulhu cultist=Euron Greyjoy.
What if next episode Dani tells Jon to bend the knee or be burned by dragon fire, then Jon doesnt kneel, and then Drogon breaths fire on Jon only to reveal that JON IS FIRE-PROOF BECAUSE OF TARG BLOOD??!!
Also tell him to learn how to pronounce the fucking names of the characters. Who the fuck is Hurron? Dude, they've said his name a hundred times. Everyone around you is saying his name, why are you just making up your own pronunciation?
The dragon Meraxes was shot down in Dorne by a scorpion bolt during Aegon's conquest, this isn't unheard of. Also, several dragons were killed by peasants with nothing but kitchenware and gardening/farming tools during the Dance of the Dragons.
In the directors cut of the episode they say that the aria and wolf thing with "that's not you" is supposed to be a reference back to season one when Ned sat down with aria and told her that she could have a great life marrying a lord and wearing fancy dresses and she told her father " that's not me" and then walked away. She is saying that there wolf has found a life for itself and the life of joining aria and going back home isn't what that wolf wants I guess.
Why can't you all understand travel speed in this show? No, it's not an error, there are time jumps. The time period within and between episodes does not have to be uniform. The next episode will start like a month later when Jon reaches Dragonstone because no one wants to watch an entire season seeing Jon travel, or worse yet, without Jon.
AbdulRazak Alrayyis agreed, people also think everything happens at the same time. I do hate how negative some people are towards the show, I know it's not perfect but it is still by far the best series out there
Why wouldn't Jon tell Sansa about his decision to meet Dany before the meeting? It makes no sense for him not to tell her. Get on the same damn page! It's BS drama for the sake of BS drama. Only way that works is if they are feigning dissent to play Littlefinger.
Yeah, the more I watch the lousy writing of D&D without any GRRM to help them, the less I enjoy the show. Of course Jon would speak to Sansa about something so big. They are just forcing some extra drama that makes no sense.
hothotheat3000 Sansa didn't tell Jon she had an army as he was about to commit suicide against Ramsey's army. It sounds like the have communication problems.
And right after that, Jon said to her that they needed to trust each other and be on the same page. It's ludicrous that he would make a decision this big and not even give her heads up, not even remotely prepare her for the fact that she would be left in charge.
Arya saying "it's not you" was a throwback to season 1 where she told ned she's not gonna do what others want. Like arya, nymeria is no one's companion. She's got her own agenda.
hello, Two obvious point, when arya says "it is not you" that refers to herself, she says she is not the one who would go back to her family, she will turn back and go to her mission. Then on the cross roads, a group of people who were in pub were going to kings landing, that is how you could know which was is which
Stannis was killed south of the Wall, so no he's not going to be a wight. Second, decapitating wights doesn't kill them, their bodies keep moving and fighting. They aren't "zombies" in the traditional sense or the Walking Dead sense, "ordinary zombie rules" don't apply to them. In the books, only fire kills them. The show has established that dragonglass kills them too, but that's it.
Arya will kill baelish. She's not going to fuck around with him like Sansa. The men of the eerie hate baelish. They will happily serve Sansa, the niece of their previous ruler who they loved despite her being a little crazy. There's no reason for them to keep baelish around it it's just bad writing that they even entertain the idea that if they get rid of him the army goes with them. Sansa was with him in the eerie. She knows they dont like him
The Knight's of the Vale aren't technically Littlefinger's troops though. They are subjects to Robyn Arryn who was talked into that by Littlefinger. They actually despise Littlefinger. If Littlefinger is dead nobody will tell Robyn what to do and they could act on their own.
I know! That annoyed me so much! The Tullys do this and the Tullys do that, and I'm saying WHAT TULLYS? There's only Edmure, and who the hell knows where he is. Yeah, I know that as per his 'agreement' with Jaime, he's supposed to be at Casterly Rock, but then in 6x10 Walder told us he was in their dungeons. Then I realised he meant Tarlys, and I facepalmed.
@futurestoryteller Because they are two completely different houses with two completely different set of allegiances? Not knowing the difference between the two is a fairly big deal and both have been mentioned and shown as recent as last season.
Ehhh, to be fair, Randall Tarley has had about 3 minutes of screen time in 6 seasons of the show, and when you say "Tarley" with an English accent, it becomes "Tahley", which sounds pretty similar to "Tully". This is not a major character. Blame the show runners for doing nothing whatsoever to establish his character apart from showing him talking shit to Sam for a couple of minutes.
True but we've heard Tarly mentioned for Sam enough times through the whole show so it stuck out to me fairly quickly. I don't dissect the books so my feeling is when a mistake is that obvious to me, it probably shouldn't have been made. I feel like the channel barely knows what's happening half the time anyways so just another drop in the bucket.
The end will be as you say. Varys and Littlefinger fistfighting. With EVERYONE dead. The dead has taken over, and the Knight King let these two non fighters, fight for entertainment.
It was Nymeria. The directors explain that "That's not you." signifies Arya recognizing that Nymeria has found a new path that doesn't involve being someone's pet, the same way Arya told her father "No, that's not me." when he suggested she would some day marry a prince and become a princess.
Remember the conversation Ned had with Arya? _'You will marry a high lord, and rule his castle. Your sons shall be knights, and princes, and lords.'_ Arya replied; _'No, that's not me.'_ Her saying _'that's not you'_ was Arya basically acknowledging that Nymeria has her own path, just as Arya had hers. Just my take on it.
I get the confusion for the Arya/Nymeria part. And yes, I had to watch the aftershow to get it cleared up that yes, that was Nymeria, but what Arya said to her hearkened back to when she was telling her father she wasn't a traditional Lady. I wish they had done something like, a flashback even? Or just extended what Arya said a bit for clarity. "I get it, girl. That's not you. You have a pack, now." It might not have had the intent Ed impact, but for those of us who haven't watched the first season in like 5 years, something to remind us might have been helpful.
Cenk's strategic analysis is as you would expect, simple and stupid. Stannis tried the big army charge strategy twice. Tyrion was right. Crushing the Lannister home land only hurts the Lannisters which no one likes versus...nevermind. It wasn't the whole fleet. Christ. Not going to waste the time.
There is a big difference between laying a siege which Cenk said, and there are 3 dragons. The Lanisters don't have food, Tyrels do. In a few months of siege, the lords will chop of Cersei's head and bring it to them.
Tyrion's strategy is sound. Considering that Dany has numerical superiority, striking from both sides gives her an advantage since it will also force Cersei to split her smaller forces and fight on two fronts. Besides, taking CR will be huge blow to Lannister prestige, driving more houses to side with Dany. And taking KL with Westerosi rather than destroying it with foreign troops and dragon fire is also good long term thinking.
alssindi or they can just have Dany mount Drogon and have all 3 dragons fly to the Red Keep and Stuka dive bomb it with fire. Cersei gone, household guards gone, problem solve with city being fine.
Thackman the problem is A) wildfire under the city. All over the city. B) Iron Throne is in the red keep. And Iron Throne is the only symbol of unified seven kingdoms of Westeros with great sept having exploded. Normally religion and ethnicity could be used to keep it together as in "Westerosi against essosi" but then north and Iron Isles aren't andals or seven worshippers so they won't accept unified westeros without the symbol of iron throne.
The reason Daenerys split up her army was because they need to serve the plot. They are trying to make Cersei not totally get steamrolled in this fight. So naturally it's believable she could take on Daenerys if they split the army into pieces. She can have a fighting chance sending an army to fight the Dothraki. She can defend against a naval fleet. She now has a weapon to take care of the dragons. Cause Cenk was right, Dany if she didn't split up her army could have taken the throne easily. And Cenk also has a great point about who cares if you send the unsullied to casterly rock and the dothraki to high garden, if you are using them in this conquering, you would have the same "She is using foreign armies to take us out" regardless if they are spread out or all in the capital. But in summary, they split her up to give Cersei a fighting chance. Daenerys clearly had the monumental advantages so things like Wildfire, Euron, the raid to take out the Dornish fleet, the balistas, Dany splitting the army into bite size pieces, etc. are all just to make it seem like Cersei has a chance. Which will in the overarching narrative make Dany look like a massive idiot wasting thousands of soldiers and time just to delay the inevitable.
The way you know which way is north ( 36:50 ) is you hear the other party say something like "we're heading to Kings Landing" and go one way and then you see Aria go the other way.
Arya saying, "it's not you" refers to her plan of the wolf coming back to Winterfell. As when Ned Stark told Arya that she'll someday marry a lord and raise a family, to which she says, "No, that's not me."
*16 million live HBO views and 90 million torrents.* I would love to pay for HBO but I don't have cable TV and Comcast's monopoly in my area will not allow me to stream HBO Now. Fuck you Comcast.
I wish Matt weren't in these reviews. I love him in the WTF movie reviews, but for Game of Thrones his contributions just aren't that good in my opinion.
"It's not you" refers to what Arya said to her father when Ned was describing the life she'd have as a noble lady. She said "That's not me". She asked Nymeria to come back to Winterfell with her, to be Arya's companion. Nymeria didn't want to do that, because Nymeria's a wild animal, undomesticated, much like Arya. "It's not you" was an admission of understanding between the two.
The most important part of the Dany/Varys conversation was Dany telling Varys to tell her if she's fucking up instead of going behind her back. It's not that she wants unquestioning loyalty, she wants honesty as a part of loyalty and is willing to be kept in check. We saw that with how she listened to Tyrion.
Please take a day before doing these vids. I appreciate having them so soon, but you guys are CLEARLY not on your A Game so late at night after the episode. You guys sound tired and your analysis have been lacking. Take a day, read some reviews, then regroup. That would eliminate EASY mistakes, like Tully/Tarly and the whole "that's not you" debacle (I mean seriously, how did John or Matt not pick up on that callback line??) Please get it together, there are only 5 eps left :( Also, where's the Cersei discussion promised last week??
Surely others said it before me, but I just don't know how they didn't get it with Arya. Arya was asking Nymeria to come to Winterfell with her. But she said "that's not you", meaning the dire wolf is not a pet going with a human to do humans stuff.
liquidsword29 totally agree, they aren't going to want to help eachother. They are both focused on completely opposite things, Jon won't be willing to go south and assist Dany, and she won't be willing to send any forces north to the wall, especially after she has just lost Yaras ships. At the very least she will allow him to mine the dragon glass. But I'm not sure what Jon could offer her.
I mean, Ben has been calling Jorah Richard for the past 4 seasons. And Matt is authoritative with calling Olenna Oleana. He's been doing that for years too.
Ben finds it sort of dickishly funny to intentionally not remember the names, but it goes for both sexes, as others are pointing out. Last year he said that Littlefinger was at home in the snowy North because he had all that practice as the mayor of Baltimore.
I think the "it's not you" scene with Arya and Nymeria should be interrupted as it's no longer the old Nymeria she knew just as Arya Stark is no longer the same she was. Both of them have changed and can no longer go back to their old self.
How the fuck did Euron launch a sneak attack with a 1000 ship strong fleet on another fleet of ships while at sea? So stupid. It's the teleporting armies all over again.
King Superman it wasn't really. eurons fleet was leaving KL and yaras fleet was on its way. but yeah I get your point I thought the same, but I've been pursuaded by others logic
Not really, Euron came from kings landing and yara came from dragonstone. Those place are right really close to each other and he knew they were there. Also wouldnt be surprised if euron has loyalist inside yaras fleet.
I'm not talking about how they managed to be in the same place or how he managed to find her. I'm talking about how no one in her entire fleet noticed a fleet of 1000 ships coming towards them. THAT'S the stupid part.
The line from Aryia "It's not you" might mean that she again changes her mind in going to Winterfell. When she learned of Jon Snow she learns that Winterfell her old home in now under Stark control and decided to go towards Winterfell, but when confronted by her old Dire Wolf. She recognized the wolf and the wolf recognized her (through scent) and came to a conclusion that she like the wolf are not who they once were. So as a result I think her line of "It's not you" is her coming to a re decision to continue her path of revenge because that's who she now is.
It's really annoying that these guys have a review show but don't know characters names.. Lady Greyjoy?? Seriously stupid.. Ms. Dorne like idk if they're just trying to be funny but it's not.. and calling dragon glass dragon stone?? Like come on.. it's hard to listen to honestly
Stephen Alexander oh my bad, WE CASUAL FANS love the show and acknowledge that its probably the best show ever. But we're not obsessed. We're not gonna remember every name of every person and every place and every house. This panel is a perfect mix of experts and casual fans👌 It's perfect!
Marothi Kalushi that's a totally valid argument for casual fans.. not so valid for 3 guys sitting in a production studio doing a show based on Game of Throne.. don't know why you seem to be taking it as an insult but it was just my opinion
cenk doesn't seem to understand that the army ISN'T together in the first place. Even if you want them together, the ironborn still had to sail to dorne to pick up the dornish army, so they still would've ended up being ambushed by euron. They only have so many ships, they can't be lugging the unsullied and dothraki around with them when they sail.
"It's not you" is a reference to when Arya told her father "That's not me" after he told her she would marry a great Lord. Nymeria is no longer a domesticated pet. She has her own pack now and Arya acknowledged that by saying "that's not you".
"That's not you"... Arya had just asked Nymeria to come with her to Winterfell... When Nym turned and left, Arya realized that wasn't what Nym wanted. It's a callback to Arya saying " That's not me" when Ned told her she would marry a Lord.
"It's not you." I definitely interpreted that as, 'it's me, I'm not a good person anymore, and I don't deserve your loyalty any more.' Which makes you wonder, will she feel she is worthy of her family and home now?
the parallels between nymeria and aria are amazing. aria, too, is not really herself anymore.. she, like nymeria, is wild now. its beautiful, honestly.
"Its not you" is a callback to Arya telling Ned in season 1 "that's not me" in regard to being a wife, domesticated etc. Numerous has her own pack of wolves now, so she wouldn't fit in with being domesticated whether in winterfell or not. Unless she suddenly shows up later which is possible.
Guys, when Arya says, "It's not you" it's a throwback to season one when Ned told her she was going to be the lady of a castle and she said, "No, it's not me." Basically, she was accepting that Nymeria didn't want to go North and be by her side because that's not who she is anymore.
"That's not you" was a callback to something Arya had said to Ned in season 1 when he talked about her growing up to be a lady of a great keep, and she said, "no. That's not me." She said it to Nymeria because Nymeria has been a wild wolf all this time so she can't go back to being domesticated.
The Arya/Nimera scene where Arya says, "That's not you.", comes after Arya asks her come north with her... to go home. "That's not you" means the direwolf is meant to roam free. Being a pet... having a stable home isn't Her anymore. Arya realizes she can't go back to Winterfell as a home either. She's changed... forever. She might go visit, but never to call it home any longer.
Regarding the "That's not you" scene -The showrunners said that was a reference to a early season one episode. When Ned Stark told Arya she would be a lady of a castle, marry a lord and wear frilly dresses. Ayria response was No, That's not me. So the idea of Nymeria being a domesticated pet, "That's not you."
"It's not you" refers to it not being in Nymeria's nature to be Arya's pet; she is the leader of a wolf pack. Arya will either decide that she is like Nymeria and head back on her way to King's Landing, because it's not in her nature to be homey, or she will pass by White Harbor and hear/see that Jon has left and, not knowing that Sansa is in Winterfell (because Hot Pie didn't mention it), will head back on her way to KL. Arya is not going to meet a Stark for the rest of the show.
I thought the thing about the ballista (the giant crossbow) was that they'll mass produce it and man the walls with it. Why would they only have one? Have hundreds of giant bolts flying towards the dragons simultanously and you could deal some serious damage to them or at least keep them at bay. The only thing Daenerys could to with them effectively is fire bombing the whole city which she won't.
"it's not you" is Arya interpreting Nymeria's rejection of her. If the wolf could speak that's what it would say to Arya: It's not you, you're different (with all the face-changing stuff). That's what the gesture of turning away meant.
Ned Stark and Arya talking about Bran losing his legs in season one and how he could raise castles like Bran the Builder...arya asks about her future and Ned says she will be the Lady of a great house and run her husband's holdfast. He says she will have some who will become knights and lords. She replies: No. That's not me. Then proceeds practicing her water dancing. So when she tells her wolf to come home and ahe doesn't, Arya says No, that's not you. Love it.
The conversation between Samwell and the Arch Maester in the library is being overlooked. This was clear confirmation of the theory that Samwell is the narrator. The Arch Maester is writing something like 'the Chronicles of Wars the followed the Rebellion of Robert'. Sam was just about to announce 'the Song of Ice and Fire' when the scene cut. To me, this proves he is the narrator and proves he will survive until the very end.
Theon jumping off the ship was the funniest thing I've seen in ages. It was a Monty Python "run away" type of moment, or like that moment in The Bourne Identity where the guy just hurls himself out the window lol.
Normal Ironborn: "What is dead may never die, but rises again harder and stronger." Theon Greyjoy: "What is dead may never die, but rises again and again and again."
The "that's not you" line was a call back from season 1 when Ned Stark was discussing Arya's future with her. Arya said, "No, that's not me", and continued with her training.
I assumed Nymeria was still hurt by how Arya's abandoned her, which is why she left and Arya saying "it's not you" was her acknowledgment that the wolf she once knew is long gone and the one she just met was not ever going to be hers.
I think when Arya said "it's not you" she was saying that you're no longer Nymeria. Being out in the wild changed her too much. Just like being out on her own changed Arya. I think that's a sign that Arya will either stay in Winterfell for a short period of time or she just wont go.
"it's not you" - it's a call back to season 1. arya was relating to nymeria and recognising traits of herself in her wolf. when sitting with ned on the steps in the red keep, he describes how she's going to grow up into a wonderful lady and marry great lord and have kids. she says "that's not me". when offering nymeria the oppertunity to abandon her new home and pack to return north, nymeria chooses to stay in the life she's forged on her own terms. arya recognises and respects that decision. "that's not you" = "you have to do your own thing". RE: the road - the two men talking as they set off in one direction commented that they were heading to kings landing. the camera panned to arya behind debating it, and turned the horse around.
One thing they seemed to have missed is that Euron captured the iron fleet so now he owns the seas. The battle is basically the battle of Trafalgar where the British defeated the Spanish and French by capturing half their fleet then went on to own the Oceans for the next few centuries. So now everyone is stuck on Dragonstone with no way of getting to Westerous.
Arya says of Nymiria, it's not you, because yes she has changed but so has Nymiria in the same way. Both on their own and transformed. Also another thing to love about this season is how they keep bringing in the beginning. In S1 Ned asks Arya why she doesn't wear dresses like other girls. She says because IT"S NOT ME.
When Arya says, "Let's go home Nymeria, let's go home girl.." and then after the dire wolf stands down and trots away, she says "It's not you.". I took that to mean a realization that going home again isn't possible, isn't something she can do. It's not who Nymeria is now. By relation, it's not who Arya is anymore.
When she says "it's not you" she smiles. What she's saying is it isn't like Nymeria to just follow Arya because she asked. Nymeria is wilful and has a pack of her own, she wouldn't abandon her pack for Arya to become a pet again.
The other comments here are likely correct. "It's not you" means that Nymeria fundamentally isn't cut out to be Arya's pet and protector, she has to be a wild animal. Just like Arya was never meant to do "home ec" stuff in the very first episode along with Sansa, she was meant to travel the world and become a warrior, this is the same thing she now recognizes about Nymeria. So she is saying "It's not your character, you're not going to come with me because it's not who you are. It's not you."
"That's not you" probably refers to Arya's line in season one after she asks whether she can be lord of a holdfast, responding to Ned Stark telling her that she'll "marry a high lord and rule his castle" and her sons "will be knights and princes and lords". Arya responds "no, that's not me" and leaves him behind to focus on balancing exercises - as instructed by Syrio the waterdancing first sword of Braavos. Reference: type "Arya Stark that's not me" in the youtube search bar.
if you havent noticed sam tarly is getting in shape, losing weight, getting stronger. pushing a cart full of w/e carrying books placing them on shelves is keeping him out the kitchen . watch him he is exercising without even realizing it.
A few of my own thoughts (sorry if someone else already pointed any of these out): It seems like we've had a lot of loyalty pledges in the last few episodes. Both Tyrion and Varys convincing Dany of why they are loyal to her, Sansa trying to convince Jon Snow to listen to her, etc. However, I feel like Qyburn is a total mystery, and it surprises me that they haven't delved more into his character. He's now not only the Grand Maester, but also hand of the queen. Aside from simply being able to perform his experiments, it makes me wonder what his motives really are, given how important he is now. Nymeria is huge! This doesn't seem likely to me, but wouldn't it be poetic if Arya killed LIttlefinger and took his place temporarily? Westeros's most two-faced character finally becomes literally two-faced. With all the talk about swords, it makes me wonder if in fact in the end a new sword gets forged, maybe a combination of Jon Snow's sword and Needle, or some other combination; this would be fitting if/when the 7 kingdoms finally become united in the end. I'm guessing that Jon Snow will first learn of his true heritage from Bran, but I'm wondering if there isn't some additional significance to the book that the Archmaester is writing. Perhaps there is some tidbit of information or something in his book that either confirms Bran's story or maybe provides details on Tyrion's heritage instead, and this information is also somehow crucial later on. At the least, any major revelations would probably cause Sam to leave Oldtown (particularly if Jorah is leaving anyways) to reunite with Jon, so perhaps Sam won't actually get kicked out for "not following the rules" after all, or maybe he'll also get kicked out at the same time. If Sam's father is going to head the Lannister army, this puts Sam at major odds with his father (not that they aren't already). I could easily see some type of conflict brewing between Sam and his father with his father forcing Sam to choose sides. Euron definitely knows how to make an entrance. Cersei will probably like the hostages that Euron has taken, but it wouldn't surprise me to see Cersei simply have all 3 of them executed (Ellaria Sand, Asha, and Euron). It seems like up to this point Sansa still has a hard time trusting Jon, but perhaps leaving her in charge while he's gone will tame her somewhat. She definitely still likes to question him in front of everyone. I agree there aren't enough black characters in Game of Thrones; it's bad enough that the only 2 black characters end up hooking up with each other, but it's also ridiculous to think that all of the black people come from the same group of islands (the Summer Isles), and that there aren't any other black people anywhere else in the world.
Tyrion didn't say not to attack kings landing because he cares about the people. He just thinks the people will reject her if she is a cruel queen. He is smart and knows they must get the people on their side.
Cenk made so much sense at the start about Tyrion's plan being utter crap. I've been trying to get people to understand the exact same thing on other chat rooms. You NEVER split your army unless you absolutely have to. Sending half of it to the other side of Westeros to attack Casterly Rock means you now cannot support or supply it not to mention Casterly Rock is just south of the Iron Islands and Eurons ships meaning he could hit the Unsullied while they are still afloat. Now obviously we now know he was still in the Narrow Sea, but Tyrion didn't know that, he had no clue where that enemy fleet was. Also Casterly Rock has no importance in the strategic sense. All it would do, maybe, is piss Cersei off a little, but she already had whats she always wanted, to be Queen. The plan should of been to drop Ellaria, the SandSnakes and Olenna off at Dorne on the way up to Dragonstone so they could march their armies north overland (so negating any threat from Euron) and then after stopping at Dragonstone land the Unsullied and Dothraki on the east coast and march them down to Kings Landing and so catch Cersei in a vice. Cersei has no supporters right now other than Euron so if you're not at sea then she is alone.
The inn where Hot Pie stays is called the Inn of the Kneeling King. It's the same spot where the last King in the North bent the knee before Aegon the Conqueror and his dragons and surrendered. The king was thereafter forever known as the King who Knelt.
Does gendry pick up theon in his row boat
That would be hilarious. But unlikely....
L O fucking L! That's a top %1'er YT comment if I've ever saw one. Well played OP, well played.
gendry is in king's landing for a few seasons...
jewsco he's going to think finally a bitch
jewsco did Gendry fuck Ayra?
The Dire Wolf scene, with the line "That's not you," is a throw back to season 1 when Ned is saying Arya should marry a lord, wear a dress, and live in a castle, and Arya says "That's not me." What she is saying when Nymeria walks away is similar, going back with Arya after all the time that has passed, to live at winterfell as some faithful companion is not what Nymeria is anymore, she has her own life and family.
Cenk, Casterly Rock is a castle, King's Landing is a city. Huge difference when it comes to civilian casualties.
Gendry picks up Theon
ahaha he's been rowing this entire time
ziib123 he is going to be jacked and arya is going to be staring even harder.
Unless big-sis swoops in. . .
John's comment "and those were just establishing shots" -- the single funniest, and yet ignored part of this video.
I'm just shocked that jon snow has gotten letters from kings landing and the citadel
But he hasn't found out Bran is still alive
I mean come on
'It's not you' was a call back to the conversation Arya had with Ned in Season 1 where he told here she could marry a lord and run his castle to which she said, ' That's not me.' You guys are really bad at this 🙄 Try watching 'Inside the Episode' before you record these reviews guys
You shouldn't have to watch supplemental materials to understand - or interpret - what's going on. I'm not saying the scene is "lazy," or "bad" or even that it's difficult to read that into what she said without the context of the earlier conversation - but "you guys should watch the supplemental materials" is a really weak shot criticism. All works *will* stand on their own for many consumers, especially if they don't have the time or inclination to look into peripheral media. Ever hear of "Death of the Author"? It's nobody's responsibility to view the "making ofs" that's ridiculous.
@futurestoryteller - maybe Josie0 worded it wrong, but it wasn't just in the supplemental materials, it was in the show. In Season 1 (and in book 1) Ned told Arya she'd marry a great lord, and Arya said "That's not me." Now of course, I don't remember everything that happened, and I don't expect anyone else to - but before I'm gonna look like a fool on youtube, I'd maybe, you know, google it? Just a thought.
Gweniver Call Yes. I could have worded it better. That was a call back to a very important scene for Arya's character. You'd think they'd remember it. I didn't need to watch the 'inside the episode' to know what Arya meant, but obviously casual viewers did, because I've seen a lot of confusion about her meaning online since the episode aired. And yeah, the writing has gone downhill since they don't have source material to draw from. That is definitely a problem.
Jaime was "racist" ? Yeah, pretty sure he's not worried about the Dothraki's skin color, and pretty sure he doesn't fear them 'cause they're different, it's more about that little detail that, you know, they're a massive foreign army coming to pillage, rape and conquer the continent. It's not about them being "different", it's quite simply that they are at war with them. Last time I checked, being invaded was not super pleasant.
Mark Hogan agree, and I think the whole meaning was to point out that rascism at its core stems from fear of what is unknown
Yeah but, colonialism or something! Iraq!
Also, keep in mind who he was talking to. Even if that wasn't his true belief, playing to your audience is kind of a big thing, politically...
Jacqueline T. Frankovich The Dothraki have been infamous for centuries for doing nothing but sweeping across fields and plains and plundering all the cities and raping all of the women. Don't pretend we haven't seen these exact behaviors from them since Season 1 Episode 1.
Yep. Jacqueline makes the best point. This isn't just Jaime going to Lancel or someone and talking about the need to slaughter foreigners. We know for a fact that Randall Tarly is a bigot and would respond to that specific message.
"It's not you" isn't any of those things -- it's Arya recognizing that the life with her in Winterfell isn't the life for Nymeria. It's paralleling when Ned is talking to Arya about all the things she needs to do to fit in and be a woman and she says to him, "it's not me." She's recognizing the fact that Nymeria is not ever going to be a domesticated wolf any more than Arya is ever going to be the kind to settle down and fit in.
Did they miss the joke with Sam and the Maester writing the book?
"The Chronicles of Battle after the death of Robert Baratheon"
"I think you need something more...poetic..."
.....like... Game of Thrones...
Because essentially thats what he's writing 😊
I think if anything he was thinking "A Song of Ice and Fire" he never heard the phrase "Game of Thrones" and it's actually not a very poetic title. - Though certainly vastly more poetic than what the Maester had in mind.
Oh sorry yes certainly your right 😊. Never the less i did chuckle when it came up. Though itll be an irritatingly cheesey ending if the final scene is the Maester titling his novel...
Rebecca Beirne I thought Sam thought about naming it "The War of the Five Kings". Also I think it was supposed to be a history book, not a novel.
"A Song of Ice and Fire", "Game of Thrones", "Storm of Sword", "Clash of Kings", "Feast for Crows", "Winds of Winter", all nice names given the context we know.
Whistling Banshee 😲
literally the second I search for this you guys post. awesome! I live for these reviews!
They did call Yara "Lady Greyjoy" for the first time this episode. Also, Cenk keeps saying the "Tully's" & I think he means the "Tarly's"
E.t. M. You didn't watch the whole thing before commenting did you?
The "It's not you,'" is a direct callback to season one when Arya talked to her father. When he told her about a possible future of marrying and being domesticated, she says, "It's not me." That's what she meant. Nymeria is not someone who goes with humans, she is a free wolf and is on her own with her pack. Same with Arya, she is a free Stark with her own goals.
Littlefinger will die this season because he's going to underestimate Sansa the same way most watchers underestimate her.
Great fucking point. That would be the best way for him to go down.
Or maybe Sansa will be killed by littlefinger
"Or maybe Sansa will be killed by littlefinger"
Let's just ignore character development, and story progression and assume the show will do the same four or five things over and over.
There's also the possibility of Euron betraying Cersei for Danny. He did say he wanted to marry the most beautiful woman in the world. He didn't name Cersei as the woman explicitly.
Robert M Can see him betraying Cersei, but I can't see Dany trusting him at all. But when he said he wanted to marry the most beautiful woman in the world I thought he meant Dany after what he said in season 6
Tw1lley Dany won't trust him but I get the feeling he may formidable enough to get her to compromise. He's a wild card.
Robert M After what he did to the ships it's not likely, if Dany does use him for something he will definitely end up betraying her too.
Tw1lley Anything is possible with this show. I can't rule out anything
Robert M After killing Dany's allies, there's no possibility of him joining her. That ship has literally sailed. The preview for next week seems to show him back in King's Landing, being welcomed as a hero. I assume he has Ellaria and Yara in chains.
Lady Olenna is up next. Randyl will betray her. It bothers me that apparently she doesn't have any spies that would let her know Tarly was summoned by Cersei. I also don't buy the, "I come when my queen summons me" response either. That Queen murdered the former queen and your lord. I think Olenna's "revenge" is pretty freaking justified.
Matt has a horrible and irritating way of talking over people. I know it goes with the territory, but for some reason it stands out with him.
Arya: "That's not you." To Nymeria - Season 7 Episode 2
Arya: "That's not me." To Ned - Season 1 Episode 4
tyrion's plan is GREAT they just took too long to do it. they should have come up with this plan as they were sailing and then went and collected their army BEFORE going to dragonstone. sigh now they have no choice but to go in full force with their numbers deminished. this episode had me PISSED. my team cant win! come on jon join dany and save the day!
If Euron has destroyed their fleet, is Daenerys (and her armies of Unsullied and Dothraki) going anywhere now?
serenityq26 your teams leader is a crybaby. King of the North
They weren't always mute. Euron wanted some peace and quite and his crew was too loud. So, he cut all their tongues out and rechristened his flagship, The Silence. Euron has stared into the Abyss and the Abyss stared back and they fell in love. Blackbeard+Joker + Cthulhu cultist=Euron Greyjoy.
What if next episode Dani tells Jon to bend the knee or be burned by dragon fire, then Jon doesnt kneel, and then Drogon breaths fire on Jon only to reveal that JON IS FIRE-PROOF BECAUSE OF TARG BLOOD??!!
also is Jon Snow fire-proof? was that established/disproven before?
ziib123 he burnt his hand in season 1 at some point
ziib123 he burnt his hand saving Lord Commander Jeor Mormont in season 1 against a wight.
What about since his resurrection? Wasn’t that the will of the Lord of Light, the “fire god”?
CPR youre right i rewatched that part of the episode. Dang.. Could have been cool.
Goddammit Matt stop interrupting everyone.
and it's just for inserting his stupid jokes, that's the worst part.
"Commonly known as an inn" bit was brilliant. I'll give him that.
Cenk interrups more than anyone
Also tell him to learn how to pronounce the fucking names of the characters.
Who the fuck is Hurron? Dude, they've said his name a hundred times. Everyone around you is saying his name, why are you just making up your own pronunciation?
The dragon Meraxes was shot down in Dorne by a scorpion bolt during Aegon's conquest, this isn't unheard of. Also, several dragons were killed by peasants with nothing but kitchenware and gardening/farming tools during the Dance of the Dragons.
Hey where's episode 3? whatever happened to reviewing just after the show ends.
In the directors cut of the episode they say that the aria and wolf thing with "that's not you" is supposed to be a reference back to season one when Ned sat down with aria and told her that she could have a great life marrying a lord and wearing fancy dresses and she told her father " that's not me" and then walked away. She is saying that there wolf has found a life for itself and the life of joining aria and going back home isn't what that wolf wants I guess.
Why can't you all understand travel speed in this show? No, it's not an error, there are time jumps. The time period within and between episodes does not have to be uniform.
The next episode will start like a month later when Jon reaches Dragonstone because no one wants to watch an entire season seeing Jon travel, or worse yet, without Jon.
AbdulRazak Alrayyis agreed, people also think everything happens at the same time. I do hate how negative some people are towards the show, I know it's not perfect but it is still by far the best series out there
AbdulRazak Alrayyis : There are dozens of us that believe this!
Prop to What the Flick for putting the reviews so quickly, these guys went to the studio Sunday night and recorded this right after.
Thank you :)
Why wouldn't Jon tell Sansa about his decision to meet Dany before the meeting? It makes no sense for him not to tell her. Get on the same damn page! It's BS drama for the sake of BS drama. Only way that works is if they are feigning dissent to play Littlefinger.
Yeah, the more I watch the lousy writing of D&D without any GRRM to help them, the less I enjoy the show. Of course Jon would speak to Sansa about something so big. They are just forcing some extra drama that makes no sense.
hothotheat3000 Sansa didn't tell Jon she had an army as he was about to commit suicide against Ramsey's army. It sounds like the have communication problems.
And right after that, Jon said to her that they needed to trust each other and be on the same page. It's ludicrous that he would make a decision this big and not even give her heads up, not even remotely prepare her for the fact that she would be left in charge.
There is no scenario in which telling Jon about Littlefinger's army _improves_ his chances of winning The Battle of The Bastards.
Arya saying "it's not you" was a throwback to season 1 where she told ned she's not gonna do what others want. Like arya, nymeria is no one's companion. She's got her own agenda.
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Two obvious point, when arya says "it is not you" that refers to herself, she says she is not the one who would go back to her family, she will turn back and go to her mission. Then on the cross roads, a group of people who were in pub were going to kings landing, that is how you could know which was is which
Stannis was killed south of the Wall, so no he's not going to be a wight. Second, decapitating wights doesn't kill them, their bodies keep moving and fighting. They aren't "zombies" in the traditional sense or the Walking Dead sense, "ordinary zombie rules" don't apply to them. In the books, only fire kills them. The show has established that dragonglass kills them too, but that's it.
Arya will kill baelish. She's not going to fuck around with him like Sansa. The men of the eerie hate baelish. They will happily serve Sansa, the niece of their previous ruler who they loved despite her being a little crazy. There's no reason for them to keep baelish around it it's just bad writing that they even entertain the idea that if they get rid of him the army goes with them. Sansa was with him in the eerie. She knows they dont like him
Wow, I love that, I have not even considered this as an option, the Tullys back where they belong, however Sweetrobin rules the Vale, so........
The Knight's of the Vale aren't technically Littlefinger's troops though. They are subjects to Robyn Arryn who was talked into that by Littlefinger. They actually despise Littlefinger.
If Littlefinger is dead nobody will tell Robyn what to do and they could act on their own.
In this video: What the Flick doesn't know the difference between the Tully's and the Tarly's
I know! That annoyed me so much! The Tullys do this and the Tullys do that, and I'm saying WHAT TULLYS? There's only Edmure, and who the hell knows where he is. Yeah, I know that as per his 'agreement' with Jaime, he's supposed to be at Casterly Rock, but then in 6x10 Walder told us he was in their dungeons. Then I realised he meant Tarlys, and I facepalmed.
@futurestoryteller Because they are two completely different houses with two completely different set of allegiances? Not knowing the difference between the two is a fairly big deal and both have been mentioned and shown as recent as last season.
It's really not that big of a deal. You know who they are talking about.
Ehhh, to be fair, Randall Tarley has had about 3 minutes of screen time in 6 seasons of the show, and when you say "Tarley" with an English accent, it becomes "Tahley", which sounds pretty similar to "Tully".
This is not a major character. Blame the show runners for doing nothing whatsoever to establish his character apart from showing him talking shit to Sam for a couple of minutes.
True but we've heard Tarly mentioned for Sam enough times through the whole show so it stuck out to me fairly quickly. I don't dissect the books so my feeling is when a mistake is that obvious to me, it probably shouldn't have been made. I feel like the channel barely knows what's happening half the time anyways so just another drop in the bucket.
The end will be as you say. Varys and Littlefinger fistfighting. With EVERYONE dead. The dead has taken over, and the Knight King let these two non fighters, fight for entertainment.
They should watch the "inside the episode" that's right after the credits lol It would at least answer some of their questions, like about Nymeria
And 2 of the sand snakes are not Ellaria Sand's daughter's their only the Viper's daughters, half sisters to her daughter
"It's not you" is a callback to when Ned said Arya would Mary a lord and head his house. Arya replied, "That's not me."
Best episode yet. Last 10 minutes were ridiculous.
It was Nymeria. The directors explain that "That's not you." signifies Arya recognizing that Nymeria has found a new path that doesn't involve being someone's pet, the same way Arya told her father "No, that's not me." when he suggested she would some day marry a prince and become a princess.
Sam saves Jorah. Jorah saves Jon against The Others. = Sam saves Jon.
Remember the conversation Ned had with Arya?
_'You will marry a high lord, and rule his castle. Your sons shall be knights, and princes, and lords.'_
Arya replied;
_'No, that's not me.'_ Her saying _'that's not you'_ was Arya basically acknowledging that Nymeria has her own path, just as Arya had hers.
Just my take on it.
I don't know about anybody else but it was kinda nice watching a guy actually win a fight against a woman in mainstream media. Good episode.
I get the confusion for the Arya/Nymeria part. And yes, I had to watch the aftershow to get it cleared up that yes, that was Nymeria, but what Arya said to her hearkened back to when she was telling her father she wasn't a traditional Lady.
I wish they had done something like, a flashback even? Or just extended what Arya said a bit for clarity.
"I get it, girl. That's not you. You have a pack, now."
It might not have had the intent Ed impact, but for those of us who haven't watched the first season in like 5 years, something to remind us might have been helpful.
Cenk's strategic analysis is as you would expect, simple and stupid. Stannis tried the big army charge strategy twice. Tyrion was right. Crushing the Lannister home land only hurts the Lannisters which no one likes versus...nevermind. It wasn't the whole fleet. Christ. Not going to waste the time.
There is a big difference between laying a siege which Cenk said, and there are 3 dragons. The Lanisters don't have food, Tyrels do. In a few months of siege, the lords will chop of Cersei's head and bring it to them.
Tyrion's strategy is sound.
Considering that Dany has numerical superiority, striking from both sides gives her an advantage since it will also force Cersei to split her smaller forces and fight on two fronts. Besides, taking CR will be huge blow to Lannister prestige, driving more houses to side with Dany.
And taking KL with Westerosi rather than destroying it with foreign troops and dragon fire is also good long term thinking.
alssindi or they can just have Dany mount Drogon and have all 3 dragons fly to the Red Keep and Stuka dive bomb it with fire. Cersei gone, household guards gone, problem solve with city being fine.
I get the frustration. Cenk is not a thinker; he uses all his muscles except the one that matters most.
Thackman the problem is
A) wildfire under the city. All over the city.
B) Iron Throne is in the red keep. And Iron Throne is the only symbol of unified seven kingdoms of Westeros with great sept having exploded. Normally religion and ethnicity could be used to keep it together as in "Westerosi against essosi" but then north and Iron Isles aren't andals or seven worshippers so they won't accept unified westeros without the symbol of iron throne.
The reason Daenerys split up her army was because they need to serve the plot. They are trying to make Cersei not totally get steamrolled in this fight. So naturally it's believable she could take on Daenerys if they split the army into pieces. She can have a fighting chance sending an army to fight the Dothraki. She can defend against a naval fleet. She now has a weapon to take care of the dragons.
Cause Cenk was right, Dany if she didn't split up her army could have taken the throne easily. And Cenk also has a great point about who cares if you send the unsullied to casterly rock and the dothraki to high garden, if you are using them in this conquering, you would have the same "She is using foreign armies to take us out" regardless if they are spread out or all in the capital.
But in summary, they split her up to give Cersei a fighting chance. Daenerys clearly had the monumental advantages so things like Wildfire, Euron, the raid to take out the Dornish fleet, the balistas, Dany splitting the army into bite size pieces, etc. are all just to make it seem like Cersei has a chance. Which will in the overarching narrative make Dany look like a massive idiot wasting thousands of soldiers and time just to delay the inevitable.
IF they took all their army at once they would loose all of it at once in the ocean!!! How don't you see that?
The way you know which way is north ( 36:50 ) is you hear the other party say something like "we're heading to Kings Landing" and go one way and then you see Aria go the other way.
Where's the new episode?
Arya saying, "it's not you" refers to her plan of the wolf coming back to Winterfell. As when Ned Stark told Arya that she'll someday marry a lord and raise a family, to which she says, "No, that's not me."
*16 million live HBO views and 90 million torrents.* I would love to pay for HBO but I don't have cable TV and Comcast's monopoly in my area will not allow me to stream HBO Now. Fuck you Comcast.
Where do you get these numbers from?
im paying for the internet a $5/month
I think she said "That's not you" referencing a conversation with her father in Kings Landing. Basically it' not Nimeria's way to become a pet.
I wish Matt weren't in these reviews. I love him in the WTF movie reviews, but for Game of Thrones his contributions just aren't that good in my opinion.
Mark Hogan I think because Cenk and the others doesn't give him a chance to talk most of the time.
Really? I thought his insights about "Hurron" were pretty deep.
"It's not you" refers to what Arya said to her father when Ned was describing the life she'd have as a noble lady. She said "That's not me". She asked Nymeria to come back to Winterfell with her, to be Arya's companion. Nymeria didn't want to do that, because Nymeria's a wild animal, undomesticated, much like Arya. "It's not you" was an admission of understanding between the two.
Who else watches this straight after watching new GOT?
The most important part of the Dany/Varys conversation was Dany telling Varys to tell her if she's fucking up instead of going behind her back. It's not that she wants unquestioning loyalty, she wants honesty as a part of loyalty and is willing to be kept in check. We saw that with how she listened to Tyrion.
Please take a day before doing these vids. I appreciate having them so soon, but you guys are CLEARLY not on your A Game so late at night after the episode. You guys sound tired and your analysis have been lacking. Take a day, read some reviews, then regroup. That would eliminate EASY mistakes, like Tully/Tarly and the whole "that's not you" debacle (I mean seriously, how did John or Matt not pick up on that callback line??) Please get it together, there are only 5 eps left :( Also, where's the Cersei discussion promised last week??
Anyesha B. Yea I expected better from John.
Surely others said it before me, but I just don't know how they didn't get it with Arya. Arya was asking Nymeria to come to Winterfell with her. But she said "that's not you", meaning the dire wolf is not a pet going with a human to do humans stuff.
jon will not ben the knee.. I guarantee it.
liquidsword29 totally agree, they aren't going to want to help eachother. They are both focused on completely opposite things, Jon won't be willing to go south and assist Dany, and she won't be willing to send any forces north to the wall, especially after she has just lost Yaras ships. At the very least she will allow him to mine the dragon glass. But I'm not sure what Jon could offer her.
liquidsword29 Of course he won't. It would be a betrayal to his subjects in the north.
There is no way Jon would not have discussed that with Sansa before they met with everyone. Ridiculous.
Tom Harris Like when Sansa didn't discuss with Jon about the army that saved him?
**knows all the male characters' names**
**refers to women, even after being corrected, as lady greyjoy, mrs dorne, lady oleana**
David Magee i thought i was the only one who noticed that.
I mean, Ben has been calling Jorah Richard for the past 4 seasons. And Matt is authoritative with calling Olenna Oleana. He's been doing that for years too.
Mayor of Baltimore, Richard and Eric Banner Jr. Yeah I think he is just being sexist.
some body looks like op just got btfo
Ben finds it sort of dickishly funny to intentionally not remember the names, but it goes for both sexes, as others are pointing out. Last year he said that Littlefinger was at home in the snowy North because he had all that practice as the mayor of Baltimore.
I think the "it's not you" scene with Arya and Nymeria should be interrupted as it's no longer the old Nymeria she knew just as Arya Stark is no longer the same she was. Both of them have changed and can no longer go back to their old self.
How the fuck did Euron launch a sneak attack with a 1000 ship strong fleet on another fleet of ships while at sea? So stupid. It's the teleporting armies all over again.
King Superman it wasn't really. eurons fleet was leaving KL and yaras fleet was on its way. but yeah I get your point I thought the same, but I've been pursuaded by others logic
It's just shit ham-fisted writing to move a plot point along.
Not really, Euron came from kings landing and yara came from dragonstone. Those place are right really close to each other and he knew they were there. Also wouldnt be surprised if euron has loyalist inside yaras fleet.
no one ever did teleport ur just to stupid to understand that between single scenes can be months
I'm not talking about how they managed to be in the same place or how he managed to find her. I'm talking about how no one in her entire fleet noticed a fleet of 1000 ships coming towards them. THAT'S the stupid part.
The line from Aryia "It's not you" might mean that she again changes her mind in going to Winterfell. When she learned of Jon Snow she learns that Winterfell her old home in now under Stark control and decided to go towards Winterfell, but when confronted by her old Dire Wolf. She recognized the wolf and the wolf recognized her (through scent) and came to a conclusion that she like the wolf are not who they once were. So as a result I think her line of "It's not you" is her coming to a re decision to continue her path of revenge because that's who she now is.
It's really annoying that these guys have a review show but don't know characters names.. Lady Greyjoy?? Seriously stupid.. Ms. Dorne like idk if they're just trying to be funny but it's not.. and calling dragon glass dragon stone?? Like come on.. it's hard to listen to honestly
Stephen Alexander get a life
Marothi Kalushi way to contribute..
Stephen Alexander oh my bad, WE CASUAL FANS love the show and acknowledge that its probably the best show ever. But we're not obsessed. We're not gonna remember every name of every person and every place and every house. This panel is a perfect mix of experts and casual fans👌 It's perfect!
Marothi Kalushi that's a totally valid argument for casual fans.. not so valid for 3 guys sitting in a production studio doing a show based on Game of Throne.. don't know why you seem to be taking it as an insult but it was just my opinion
cenk doesn't seem to understand that the army ISN'T together in the first place. Even if you want them together, the ironborn still had to sail to dorne to pick up the dornish army, so they still would've ended up being ambushed by euron. They only have so many ships, they can't be lugging the unsullied and dothraki around with them when they sail.
"It's not you" is a reference to when Arya told her father "That's not me" after he told her she would marry a great Lord.
Nymeria is no longer a domesticated pet. She has her own pack now and Arya acknowledged that by saying "that's not you".
"That's not you"... Arya had just asked Nymeria to come with her to Winterfell... When Nym turned and left, Arya realized that wasn't what Nym wanted. It's a callback to Arya saying " That's not me" when Ned told her she would marry a Lord.
"It's not you." I definitely interpreted that as, 'it's me, I'm not a good person anymore, and I don't deserve your loyalty any more.' Which makes you wonder, will she feel she is worthy of her family and home now?
the parallels between nymeria and aria are amazing. aria, too, is not really herself anymore.. she, like nymeria, is wild now. its beautiful, honestly.
"Its not you" is a callback to Arya telling Ned in season 1 "that's not me" in regard to being a wife, domesticated etc. Numerous has her own pack of wolves now, so she wouldn't fit in with being domesticated whether in winterfell or not. Unless she suddenly shows up later which is possible.
Guys, when Arya says, "It's not you" it's a throwback to season one when Ned told her she was going to be the lady of a castle and she said, "No, it's not me." Basically, she was accepting that Nymeria didn't want to go North and be by her side because that's not who she is anymore.
"That's not you" was a callback to something Arya had said to Ned in season 1 when he talked about her growing up to be a lady of a great keep, and she said, "no. That's not me." She said it to Nymeria because Nymeria has been a wild wolf all this time so she can't go back to being domesticated.
Best line of the Episode:
Elyria Sand to Yaara: "You're about to face a foreign invasion", before they made out.
The Arya/Nimera scene where Arya says, "That's not you.", comes after Arya asks her come north with her... to go home. "That's not you" means the direwolf is meant to roam free. Being a pet... having a stable home isn't Her anymore. Arya realizes she can't go back to Winterfell as a home either. She's changed... forever. She might go visit, but never to call it home any longer.
What Arya meant is Nymeria can't be tamed, it's not in her nature.
Regarding the "That's not you" scene -The showrunners said that was a reference to a early season one episode. When Ned Stark told Arya she would be a lady of a castle, marry a lord and wear frilly dresses. Ayria response was No, That's not me. So the idea of Nymeria being a domesticated pet, "That's not you."
The scene with Nymeria was a metaphore for Aria. Saying we've changed. We can't go back to life as we knew it. You can't go home.
When Arya says to Nymeria'That's not you...', she's referring to the fact that her dire wolf isn't going to follow her, like a pet ,back to the north.
"It's not you" refers to it not being in Nymeria's nature to be Arya's pet; she is the leader of a wolf pack. Arya will either decide that she is like Nymeria and head back on her way to King's Landing, because it's not in her nature to be homey, or she will pass by White Harbor and hear/see that Jon has left and, not knowing that Sansa is in Winterfell (because Hot Pie didn't mention it), will head back on her way to KL. Arya is not going to meet a Stark for the rest of the show.
I thought the thing about the ballista (the giant crossbow) was that they'll mass produce it and man the walls with it. Why would they only have one?
Have hundreds of giant bolts flying towards the dragons simultanously and you could deal some serious damage to them or at least keep them at bay.
The only thing Daenerys could to with them effectively is fire bombing the whole city which she won't.
"it's not you" is Arya interpreting Nymeria's rejection of her. If the wolf could speak that's what it would say to Arya: It's not you, you're different (with all the face-changing stuff). That's what the gesture of turning away meant.
Ned Stark and Arya talking about Bran losing his legs in season one and how he could raise castles like Bran the Builder...arya asks about her future and Ned says she will be the Lady of a great house and run her husband's holdfast. He says she will have some who will become knights and lords.
She replies: No. That's not me. Then proceeds practicing her water dancing.
So when she tells her wolf to come home and ahe doesn't, Arya says No, that's not you.
Love it.
The conversation between Samwell and the Arch Maester in the library is being overlooked. This was clear confirmation of the theory that Samwell is the narrator. The Arch Maester is writing something like 'the Chronicles of Wars the followed the Rebellion of Robert'. Sam was just about to announce 'the Song of Ice and Fire' when the scene cut. To me, this proves he is the narrator and proves he will survive until the very end.
Theon jumping off the ship was the funniest thing I've seen in ages. It was a Monty Python "run away" type of moment, or like that moment in The Bourne Identity where the guy just hurls himself out the window lol.
Normal Ironborn: "What is dead may never die, but rises again harder and stronger."
Theon Greyjoy: "What is dead may never die, but rises again and again and again."
The "that's not you" line was a call back from season 1 when Ned Stark was discussing Arya's future with her. Arya said, "No, that's not me", and continued with her training.
Maybe it is... but it's kinda a stretch. I wasn't sure what the line meant when I watched it.
I assumed Nymeria was still hurt by how Arya's abandoned her, which is why she left and Arya saying "it's not you" was her acknowledgment that the wolf she once knew is long gone and the one she just met was not ever going to be hers.
Tully is going to have a fun time being general without his sword!
I think when Arya said "it's not you" she was saying that you're no longer Nymeria. Being out in the wild changed her too much. Just like being out on her own changed Arya. I think that's a sign that Arya will either stay in Winterfell for a short period of time or she just wont go.
"it's not you" - it's a call back to season 1. arya was relating to nymeria and recognising traits of herself in her wolf. when sitting with ned on the steps in the red keep, he describes how she's going to grow up into a wonderful lady and marry great lord and have kids. she says "that's not me".
when offering nymeria the oppertunity to abandon her new home and pack to return north, nymeria chooses to stay in the life she's forged on her own terms. arya recognises and respects that decision. "that's not you" = "you have to do your own thing".
RE: the road - the two men talking as they set off in one direction commented that they were heading to kings landing. the camera panned to arya behind debating it, and turned the horse around.
One thing they seemed to have missed is that Euron captured the iron fleet so now he owns the seas. The battle is basically the battle of Trafalgar where the British defeated the Spanish and French by capturing half their fleet then went on to own the Oceans for the next few centuries. So now everyone is stuck on Dragonstone with no way of getting to Westerous.
Arya says of Nymiria, it's not you, because yes she has changed but so has Nymiria in the same way. Both on their own and transformed. Also another thing to love about this season is how they keep bringing in the beginning. In S1 Ned asks Arya why she doesn't wear dresses like other girls. She says because IT"S NOT ME.
When Arya says, "Let's go home Nymeria, let's go home girl.." and then after the dire wolf stands down and trots away, she says "It's not you.".
I took that to mean a realization that going home again isn't possible, isn't something she can do. It's not who Nymeria is now. By relation, it's not who Arya is anymore.
When she says "it's not you" she smiles. What she's saying is it isn't like Nymeria to just follow Arya because she asked. Nymeria is wilful and has a pack of her own, she wouldn't abandon her pack for Arya to become a pet again.
The other comments here are likely correct. "It's not you" means that Nymeria fundamentally isn't cut out to be Arya's pet and protector, she has to be a wild animal. Just like Arya was never meant to do "home ec" stuff in the very first episode along with Sansa, she was meant to travel the world and become a warrior, this is the same thing she now recognizes about Nymeria. So she is saying "It's not your character, you're not going to come with me because it's not who you are. It's not you."
"That's not you"
probably refers to Arya's line in season one after she asks whether she can be lord of a holdfast, responding to Ned Stark telling her that she'll "marry a high lord and rule his castle" and her sons "will be knights and princes and lords". Arya responds "no, that's not me" and leaves him behind to focus on balancing exercises - as instructed by Syrio the waterdancing first sword of Braavos.
Reference: type "Arya Stark that's not me" in the youtube search bar.
if you havent noticed sam tarly is getting in shape, losing weight, getting stronger. pushing a cart full of w/e carrying books placing them on shelves is keeping him out the kitchen . watch him he is exercising without even realizing it.
A few of my own thoughts (sorry if someone else already pointed any of these out): It seems like we've had a lot of loyalty pledges in the last few episodes. Both Tyrion and Varys convincing Dany of why they are loyal to her, Sansa trying to convince Jon Snow to listen to her, etc. However, I feel like Qyburn is a total mystery, and it surprises me that they haven't delved more into his character. He's now not only the Grand Maester, but also hand of the queen. Aside from simply being able to perform his experiments, it makes me wonder what his motives really are, given how important he is now. Nymeria is huge! This doesn't seem likely to me, but wouldn't it be poetic if Arya killed LIttlefinger and took his place temporarily? Westeros's most two-faced character finally becomes literally two-faced. With all the talk about swords, it makes me wonder if in fact in the end a new sword gets forged, maybe a combination of Jon Snow's sword and Needle, or some other combination; this would be fitting if/when the 7 kingdoms finally become united in the end. I'm guessing that Jon Snow will first learn of his true heritage from Bran, but I'm wondering if there isn't some additional significance to the book that the Archmaester is writing. Perhaps there is some tidbit of information or something in his book that either confirms Bran's story or maybe provides details on Tyrion's heritage instead, and this information is also somehow crucial later on. At the least, any major revelations would probably cause Sam to leave Oldtown (particularly if Jorah is leaving anyways) to reunite with Jon, so perhaps Sam won't actually get kicked out for "not following the rules" after all, or maybe he'll also get kicked out at the same time. If Sam's father is going to head the Lannister army, this puts Sam at major odds with his father (not that they aren't already). I could easily see some type of conflict brewing between Sam and his father with his father forcing Sam to choose sides. Euron definitely knows how to make an entrance. Cersei will probably like the hostages that Euron has taken, but it wouldn't surprise me to see Cersei simply have all 3 of them executed (Ellaria Sand, Asha, and Euron). It seems like up to this point Sansa still has a hard time trusting Jon, but perhaps leaving her in charge while he's gone will tame her somewhat. She definitely still likes to question him in front of everyone. I agree there aren't enough black characters in Game of Thrones; it's bad enough that the only 2 black characters end up hooking up with each other, but it's also ridiculous to think that all of the black people come from the same group of islands (the Summer Isles), and that there aren't any other black people anywhere else in the world.
Tyrion didn't say not to attack kings landing because he cares about the people. He just thinks the people will reject her if she is a cruel queen. He is smart and knows they must get the people on their side.
Cenk made so much sense at the start about Tyrion's plan being utter crap. I've been trying to get people to understand the exact same thing on other chat rooms. You NEVER split your army unless you absolutely have to. Sending half of it to the other side of Westeros to attack Casterly Rock means you now cannot support or supply it not to mention Casterly Rock is just south of the Iron Islands and Eurons ships meaning he could hit the Unsullied while they are still afloat. Now obviously we now know he was still in the Narrow Sea, but Tyrion didn't know that, he had no clue where that enemy fleet was. Also Casterly Rock has no importance in the strategic sense. All it would do, maybe, is piss Cersei off a little, but she already had whats she always wanted, to be Queen.
The plan should of been to drop Ellaria, the SandSnakes and Olenna off at Dorne on the way up to Dragonstone so they could march their armies north overland (so negating any threat from Euron) and then after stopping at Dragonstone land the Unsullied and Dothraki on the east coast and march them down to Kings Landing and so catch Cersei in a vice. Cersei has no supporters right now other than Euron so if you're not at sea then she is alone.
The inn where Hot Pie stays is called the Inn of the Kneeling King. It's the same spot where the last King in the North bent the knee before Aegon the Conqueror and his dragons and surrendered. The king was thereafter forever known as the King who Knelt.