Every night, roughly 260 homeless shelter beds in Portland aren’t being used
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2022
- Advocates have pushed to increase the supply of shelter beds for people experiencing homelessness in Portland. Existing shelters aren't full.
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“You have to sign in and sign out and do this and do that”
Sounds like a job they don’t want either
Some of these people have been homeless for literally years! I think that they wouldn't really trust others very much, after living outside , how dangerous it must be. Like that guy said " I wouldn't know who I"m sleeping next to (inside a shelter) and if he'd be safe. That they've been living outside so long that their own (or what we see as "common" sense) they don't have a sense of their own basic needs.
You should stay at such a shelter. It's not easy like you think it is. There is so much miscommunication. You can do everything right, and they still kick you out. The homeless that work 2nd or 3rd shift are often denied entrance after they get off work, because the doors close at 10 or so, and they have to be out of the shelter by 6 or 7 am. Don't judge when you know nothing of a person's situstion.
@@lorainefleeman6011 nothing, nothing can justify the individual at 1:06. You seriously defend a lazy bum who complains about: "You have to sign in and sign out and do this and do that” ?
@@BoloTheOriginal Well, you sit on here with nothing better to do than insult homeless people. It must be nice having someone to pay your way in life so you don't wind up in a shelter. Anyway, most homeless work. You might want to consider that idea for yourself should your sugar daddy no longer want you. Many homeless get kicked out through no fault of their own. Communication sucks among staff. No, I don't defend lazy ass bums who don't work. If I did, I'd be defending you.
lol, so this is what all those Leftists are talking about when they say shelters are full of "abusive staff". Yeah, staff who make you sign in and out and tell you you can't smoke, drink or use drugs.
"you have no idea who you're sleeping right next to"
Yeah dude, this is EXACTLY how families feel like with tweakers living right outside their house.
Very well said ~wish you can tell that lazy-picky-hobo!
He could go get a job, get his own place and then he won’t have to worry about who he’s sleeping next to.
@@realcreature3D but majority do drugs!
@@williamlyons3947 tell that to the families that get robbed and attacked. One is too many. These homless are not innocent poor people. They're meth filled criminals except a small minority. PS the entire country wanted to can cops because of a few bad apples, so this same logic can be applied to homless tweakers.
That's not the same.. have some human compassion.. I hope everything is stripped from you and ya have no other choice but to sleep outside. 😴 you're a big piece of do do you know that.. Caucasian be like
Portland isn't facing a "Homelessness"problem , it has a addiction, mental health,and crime problem but as long as Portland continues to receive millions in aid to fight homelessness with little to no transparency, nothing will change.
The people being interviewed are living proof that some of these folks do not deserve sympathy or empathy.
lol, so this is what all those Leftists are talking about when they say shelters are full of "abusive staff". Yeah, staff who make you sign in and out and tell you you can't smoke, drink or use drugs. This story totally debunks all the Leftist propaganda about shelters.
They want hotels. Some say they don't want rules. Others say they prefer living outside and no group homes
Why would they go to a shelter when Portland lets them squat in any neighborhood they want, or any vacant house they want?
If you're in a shelter they won't let you smoke drink or shoot up and they get a little upset when you start screaming and yelling and trying to fight your hallucinations
They don't like rules; they want to be free to do their drugs and booze.
Land of the free? Or land of the greed?
@@benjamite15 greed is everywhere. Freedom is not.
You can still follow rules and
Drink and do drugs lol
Lololololololol you’re kidding? Every trust fund baby I know wants to be free and does drugs... ignorant for you to comment that
No, want to be slave and do drugs and drink.....or wait no, want to work hard so can cash paycheck to buy drugs and booze.....any variant is human nature, humans like "freedom" , humans "break rules" , humans like "drugs" and "booze".
Demonising any aspect of the above is merely a self-bifurcation of personality traits (egomaniacal discharges of delusional self grandiosity where 'but when you do the same as me, then its uncool" becomes the mantra of the idle handed muppety minds ramblations). 😂😂😂😂
Helping the homeless has become a business itself or the money never goes to the people who need it. It just creates a bunch of jobs and agencies
you are so right
Same here in Lisbon Portugal!
Jobs agencies are benefitting not homeless shelters empty rules going by no privacy having to sign in both sides
I'm sure Do Good Multnomah received record revenue last year. Business is booming!! Think about it, if homelessness goes away, so do their jobs. Follow the money...
Bingo
My nephew had a drug problem. The state helped him to find a job and get a roof over his head. He was doing fine until he decided that he didn't want to follow the rules and that his drugs were more important and now he is back out in the streets by his own choice. So don't tell me that there are no organizations out there to help these people because there is they just have to want it.You can't help people who don't want to help themselves.
Sorry that happen and you are right. I will pray for him.
Thankyou,appreciate that. God bless you.
Sandy, I'm sorry your nephew made the choice to not only hurt himself but his entire family. You are 100% correct about not being able to help people who don't want to help themselves.
lol, so this is what all those Leftists are talking about when they say shelters are full of "abusive staff". Yeah, staff who make you sign in and out and tell you you can't smoke, drink or use drugs. This story totally debunks all the Leftist propaganda about shelters.
Society has purposely allowed 'human traps' to be set up by profiteers in our midst. Explaining why this is the case is difficult to do without being labeled a 'conspiracy theorist'. Few people are willing to look too closely at a toxic vulture culture that has commandeered the reins of society.
Cigarettes, alcohol, opuates, gambling, pornography, religious cults, the internet, wokism, etc, are all addictive and/or compelling to the brain.
Drugs like crack cocaine and meth are designed to blow out the pleasure centers in the brain and enable the REPTILIAN COMPLEX to hijack the neocortex and limbic system. Essentially the brain LOVES the drugs to the exclusion of all else and becomes enslaved to it's effects. Deprived of it's favorite drug of choice, the REPTILIAN COMPLEX will seek out the nearest closest substitute...which is usually an even deadlier one (fentanyl or heroin).
You cannot reason with someone who's reptilian complex has been superceded their cognitive functions. They have to be forcibly separated from the drug dealers and their addictive products.
Lawyers have enabled drug addicts, the mentally ill and hardcore homeless to scoff at authorities and treatment.
0:50 “I prefer to be outside” There you have it. Save yourself some tax money and stop building additional beds.
Well m said!
Dude sounds so lazy. He doesnt wanna sigh in and sigh out…
I was homeless. Two years ago. I sheltered at the Portland Rescue Mission. Curfew, rules, they were part of the program. But I had a goal. To get out of homelessness. If I didn't have to worry about where I was going to spend the night, I was free to concentrate on what I needed to do, during the day to get my feet back under me. That alone, was worth putting up with snoring, farting, and somewhat smelly people... because I kept reminding myself... it was only temporary.
I spent six years in prison, and I had NO CHOICE where I slept, or who was around me. And I was going to be there six years NO MATTER WHAT.
If you choose to be homeless, then you have no place to complain about how bad it is.
If you choose to sleep in a tent, then you have no place to complain about how bad it is.
If you choose to use drugs and waste your life away, then you have no place to complain about how bad it is.
And you'll ge no sympathy from me. because I've been there and done it. and I chose NOT to be homeless.
I applaud your writing skill -- excellent sentence structure, grammar, and punctuation. I hope you are doing well now.
@@Dr.Pepper001 Thank you very much. I was homeless, not because of illiteracy, or lack of education, per se, but because of unavoidable circumstances. And I'm doing quite well these days.
I don't see homeless people complaining a lot. Some even choose that lifestyle because the alternative is a loss of freedom that they value. If folks don't want to see people on the street then it is up to them to create a working solution.
Good for you and good luck in the future, you are on your way!
@@BicycleFunk I created a solution... for myself. I'm not these peoples' keeper.
Only people from the comfort of their homes think a shelter is the answer for the homeless. It isn't. It's only a helpful resource. If you don't understand the issue, you will never solve it.
When you sleep during the day and “shop” through the night, it’s hard to be told to stay in during prime shopping time and stay out when you need to sleep.
Yeah.....stealing.....
I'm sure you meant "shoplift" but that's okay you're probably busy like me and others actually working and doing something with ourselves...
"I didn't like the shelters because they had rules and I didn't like hearing or smelling other people."
Well, I don't like people that camp near my home, bathe with my hose, crap in my bushes, start fires, and destroy the trees and sidewalks in my neighborhood. These entitled and enabled people need to be forced to choose shelter, work for their home (like most), or jail. Enough!
If they don’t want to live by the rules then there are no rules for how they’re handled.
"work for their home (like most)"
And who's going to hire them? Are you hiring? Because right now there are hundreds or thousands of applicants for every one job. So explain to me, how does work solve the problem of homelessness when there are a thousand times more unemployed than available jobs?
@@xinceras-6542 ummm no. There are not hundred or thousands of applicants for jobs. I could go into a long rant, but I'll save it. We are at our lowest unemployment rate in over two decades. Please watch the news. People are choosing drugs over responsibility because there's zero repercussions and too many people here will turn the other cheek because you know... compassion.
Help them
I understand where you're coming from, but you're also making a lot of assumptions. For example, families aren't eligible for many shelter programs like this. Even if they did, my night terrors would have me kicked out the first night. Physical disability/unemployability also makes me ineligible.
I'm a veteran with physical disabilities due to deteriorating connective tissue, and have PTSD. This means night terrors for me, sometimes often. I am not employable but am fortunate to have a partner that is still able to work. Both my partner and (minor aged) child have similar disorders and his employability is waning- SSDI takes years, including appeals, and requires stability to navigate. Our family members are already doubled up with one another and struggling. It's impossible to live anywhere on one income. What do you suggest we do? Based on your statement...jail? Can you really not see the gaps in our system? Again, your property should absolutely be respected. But so should those who have fallen through those gaps. Without rent and utility assistance and occasional money family members can spare, we would already have lost our home. We are not drug addicts or criminals, just people with disabilities we were born with. Like many, we cannot afford to keep going much longer and very well may end up camping somewhere. It is unlikely, but we might end up within your eyesight. We promise not to touch your land or use your hose. Please don't treat us like criminals.
Inside the homeless shelter they cannot drink, smoke dope or shoot heroin. I was riding my bicycle on a bike path and went under a bridge, there was ten of them shooting heroin or smoking dope. They all looked like zombies of the living dead.
I was sleeping under the morrison bridge one night when a group of travelers camped near me and one overdosed. I had them up and walking it off . I now carry a narcan injector with me in my first-aid kit.
@Juicy Smooliet's Subway Sammich Just because you see no value in life doesn't mean you have to watch them die. Somehow I think you get a woody from watching.
@Juicy Smooliet's Subway Sammich very telling. You have no humanity. Even in Afghanistan I kept my humanity and only killed those that we inhuman.
I stayed in a shelter and it is a great place to get everything you have stolen.
That really sucks. I'm surprised they don't offer ways to store things.
I'm curious as to how you would be able to keep from having things stolen on the street. A tent doesn't seem very secure, even a car or RV could be broken into. If you have a friend/partner you can take turns, but if you are alone you would have to leave your tent unattended at some point.
@@Violet-qf8dr -- The shelter I was in is in Salt Lake City. They used to have lockers for each bunk, but the private company that owned the shelter took the lockers out to make room for more rows of beds. Their profit is based on how many beds are filled each night. They don't give a damn about the homeless. Only profit.
I can only speak from my experience as helping run a salvation army men's homeless shelter. Meaning shelters are only as good as the staff running one.
The guy with grey beard summed it up. He doesn't want to abide tve rules. We had a definite turnover rate average of 6 beds. We had 35 beds. 5 were people released from hospitals.
We had a place for free meds. The mentally ill saw a Dr for meds. 0 tolerance for drugs or alcohol they could reapply in 30 days We referred them to another shelter.
They had a chore each day.
Curfew. Required to get a GED and or job training. They didn't get kicked out during certain times and then returned at night were fed 3x a day.
We had a caring staff. They had lockers with locks. A place to store any food the bought.
A guy who lived outside close to us,refused to stay for 12 years. He finally agreed to housing this year.
Many dont want ANY rules or responsibilities so they stay on the streets its really hard to understand
We rarely had any fights in the shelter the guys who were doing well helped the newbies and policed themselves
It was the best job I ever had
Not enough salvation army shelters out there. Too bad, it's a good program.
Why did you leave?
@@karlabritfeld7104 we moved 6 hours away to be closer to my 90 yr old mom
I had a rule of "sweat equity" where the people that wanted a tiny home had to help built it by putting a certain amount of time. A lot of people on the streets have skills. I refuse to go back to a house, But I do agree that "shelters" are the first step to stabilizing from street trauma, then clearing ones mind to make the next step. But you have to have trustworthy people for them to bounce it off of. Therein lies the "trust" issues. It can be the best thing a person does. I agree with you on that! I consider myself "nomadic" and not houseless
It’s not hard to understand. They gave up and I have zero sympathy for them. I wanted to give up everyday for as long as I can remember. I kept going. I’m still going but I think of taking my own life every morning. I don’t wanna live “by the rules either” but I do. It’s a constant struggle but I do it. They can all fu@k right off!!!
Seems like these shelters are not listening to their customers, tbh. If the homeless say they want privacy, then maybe use that $130M to set up opaque acrylic partitions between beds, so more people take advantage of the open beds.
Privacy is just an excuse. Freedom to do whatever they want is the reason. There are resources here in the US. If only they could see the condition in third world countries. It is a matter of choice if they want to be rehabilitated.
ecactly
@@gumaming privacy is a BIg deal. if there was some privacy/ saftey those shelters would be full. the few shelters that have some privacy are always full.
@@roryteal5940 shelters have very strict rules, such as no smoking, no alcohol, no drugs….many homeless bums are such addicts that they don’t want to live by those rules, so they choose instead to live on the streets.
Don’t let facts get in the way of your feelings snowflake. Awww, what’s wrong? are you gonna call me a “rathist” now?
@@sean2015 Oh yes, of course, put in rules that explicitly make people not want to stay there, brilliant strategy for client retention! 😂😂😂😂
The magic word in understanding a homeless person thought process to refused shelter is...Temporary.
That is the problem. Should be forever, everyone needs care and love.
You are right. Rapists just need care and love.
@@ursulasmith6402 And they can move in with you!
Or they rather just do drugs and are perfectly happen living off food stamps and living in the streets which is 90%
Exactly. Shelters are a great for some people, restricted for other in really just a a band aid to a problem that is bleeding this city and really the country. Why is it a controversial idea for housing to be a basic human right. I thing tiny homes are better then shelters. At least then people get their own personal space instead of spend 8pm-6am in what is nearly identical to a jail dorm. What I don't understand is why it feels like nothing is really being accomplished. 9/10 Portlanders say homelessness is one of the most important issues facing the city . Why do we not have a plan or any kind of road map? Everything the city does to combat homelessness is like throwing a cup of water at a forest fire. Everyone knows we need more affordable housing the problem is only going to get worse until that haqppens. That is the clear solution or at least a main part of it so why isn't it being done? I see luxury condos and apartments popping up everywhere many have empty rooms because people can't fucking afford to live there. The waitlist for most low income apartments are usually years long lol! How do you plan for that? I really hate the world I live in, everyone knows things are going to shit and the people in the positions and with the wealth change things are to selfish and greedy because thats exactly what capitalism preaches.
In some places homeless shelters are a big business, just like poverty pimps, I am looking at you politicians, clergy!
"Poverty Pimps". 👍🤣
What you are showing in a set up like that is just not safe. I work in a shelter and I've heard too many stories of people being robbed, assaulted by others with mental problems, and even stabbed. I've seen a person who was having hallucinations wake up a full room of men in an emergency winter shelter at 2 am, forcing us to have them removed. People need safety and they don't feel safe at shelters. In the family shelter where I work families each get a room and a key and are able to feel more secure. People also fear bed-bug, which are rampant.
Shoveling money or shelters at people who are missing core mental appitudes is not the answer. Unfortunately the answer is something we all don't want to do or hear.... we need to speak to these people as if they could do something for us, and they need a friend more then anything I bet 90% of these "mentally disordered" you claim are actually normal sane people that have had life step and stomp on them for years. Now they are what we call "mentally unstable" ..
Bottom line they just need a friend they can call and talk about the craziness. Life is hard for all of us. We are all one tribe the moment we start pitying others is another form of exclusion to our tribe.
Truth
Prisons provides safe and secured environment.
Whenever they show a Homeless encampment, there is always an abundance of bicycles, bicycle wheels and parts. Around here bicycle theft is rampant. I wonder how much of the property that Homeless people have is really just stolen property. Do the Homeless see any difference in my being a Degreed Health Care Professional, working in Intensive Care for a 12.5 hour shift saving lives and earning $500 minus $200 taxes for $300 take home and them simply stealing a $300 bike??? Are they just trying to bring us down to their level????? Maybe they don't see any difference between my $300 earnings and their $300 stolen bicycle.
What I hear them saying is that they want Freedom, Security, Privacy and the Ability to travel. Most of us call that Retirement. I worked full-time, 60-80 hours a week, 52 weeks a year for 50 years to achieve that. I've worked full-time since I was 15 years old. At 18 I joined the Military during the Vietnam War Era, followed by Community College on the GI Bill. I'm a Comfortably Retired, Debt Free Homeowner with a DD214 and 2 College Degrees. I earned what I have.
Well said.
Ok boomer
@@50gramsof All the Homeless have to do is accept the same responsibility and work like the rest of us do. Work and Responsibility always takes precedence over personal pleasure. The Homeless are a Burden to all of the rest of us. The Homeless should feel ashamed that they can't provide for themselves and that they don't pay towards the agencies that they look to for help. Everyone is Responsible to provide for themselves. I've paid way more than I'll ever receive and that's just how it is.
@@aliciabrowndocken4660 Ick, what a toxic load of judgement and shame about things you don’t understand. I can’t believe someone allowed you to provide “care” to actual humans.
The people funding the solutions don't have a CLUE about the problem. And they refuse to listen to those going through it. I lived 3.5 years in a Camry waiting for low-income senior housing. I AM NOT A DRUG ADDICT, NOR AM I MENTALLY ILL. I went to 2 shelters. I was treated like a criminal. And it was too crazy and dangerous to be in the shelters. I have an apartment now, thank goodness, but the experience of homelessness has forever changed me. My eyes have been opened to this government BS!
I became homeless in Tacoma when I arrived, needed to apply for jobs and in the process of applying for a Washington drivers license they destroyed my old license (my only picture id) and it took them 5 1/2 months to issue the new one. I called 211 for homeless assistance and they returned my call 6 1/2 months later. Several homeless assistance organizations had phone answering services where the mailbox was full and always stayed full. It doesn't matter how many millions of dollars are being spent or if beds are not being used if there is no phone number, email address or place to go where someone in need can apply. What is KGW expecting, the people getting paid there to say "but to be fair we haven't checked the answering machine in 5 months".
That's too bad that you came here for meth completely unprepared and made up a story like that.
Do you have free cell phone service?
I was in a shelter for women with several felons on parole. They said they wanted to go back to prison, get more respect.
Now, are you naive enough to actually believe that?
Thank you for this realistic report! The majority homeless saying what they want and don't want . Mental illness drug addiction rule here! Now how does a city fix that?
With bulldozers and prisons to get rid of them permanently.
Majority of homeless now are with jobs and children, no drug or alcohol issues.
@@nailslacquer that couldn’t be farther from the truth
@@sauceyflow6193 no, I was homeless with a job and the majority of ppl I met were homeless with a job. Sure there were junkies, but on the whole it's normal ppl hiding their homelessness. I lived it. My lived experience outweighs your opinion.
@@sauceyflow6193 oh and most of them are moms and dads with children.
The answer is at a minimum having a door you can shut and somewhere to keep your stuff, then a curfew isn't needed, what is it like 8pm, what are they supposed to do for the next 4+ hours until bed time? FFS they are adults and should be treated as such until they prove otherwise and I wouldn't be able to sleep in a room full of strangers with many issues either. It needs to be a semi permanent room at the minimum if you want to give people a starting place to get their life back together. If a Dorm room is the best a city can do then they need to re evaluate how they are spending tax payers money.
Wait what! Journalists doing their job? WOW!
“Affordable housing” solves nothing. You think they can afford anything?
Adding funding just confirms the “homeless” issue is now an industry in itself. Disgusting.
So many homeless would just trash the place anyway. A couple of days ago an activist leader said she would take in the homeless at her house and gave her address . A reporter then told some homeless about her being willing. They went over to stay and the activist leader said she was doxed by the reporter even though there is a video of her saying her address and she would welcome them to the camera.
There are plenty of us who would definitely appreciate affordable housing. 2K per month for a crappy apartment is ridiculous.
These people don’t want to live in a shelter with rules and regulations. They choose to live on the streets since there is no punishment to do so.
Especially in the summer when they won't freeze to death. Winter is when you see them come together and create encampments to share resources. People may think they are scum assed cockroaches, but who survives the wars???? cockroaches. We're just waiting to teach the comfortable ones how to survive from a garbage can when the 31 trillion dollar economic crash comes...btw..I'm writing a book called "Living in Longjohns" that tells what I've learned form living 10 years with the "collateral damages" of the wealthy.
Careful with your shelf serving generalization
So you're into punishment, eh?
I think you missed the point of the video ...
I get some of the points that the homeless make in this piece, but not wanting to buy both rules isn't a reason to camp on our sidewalks.
People love to use the word entitlement when it comes to the rich, but I think of it when it look at people that choose not to be part of society that choose not to work that she's not to be part of the solution and not the problem. *_The entitlement of living rent-free in a city like Portland_* versus the rest of us... That's what I cannot take!!
Working full time at minimum wage is not enough to afford an apartment. Also,.would you hire any of these guys? Please, don't use your bitterness at having to work detract you from the real issue here. There are no homes that are affordable.
*sees a person sleeping on the sidewalk
"How entitled, my tax dollars pay for that sidewalk!"
@@benrowe301 days of noah
@@adampalm4444 the minimum wage has nothing to do with it. The majority of these people do not want to follow rules, and therefore refuse to work. When you choose not to do what it takes to care for yourself and your situation, then you have no right to be picky about the form of help offered to you. These people are very entitled. They won’t go to a shelter
#1. Because they’ll have to follow rules.
#2. Safety issues
#3. Health concerns, etc.
All 3 issues could have been resolved had they chosen to be a part of the workforce. In the US, the work ethic has always been: “We work to stay free.” You want your freedoms, then you have to work in order to afford your own place. These people should be put in agricultural labor camps. They’d be miserable, but at least they and their trash wouldn’t be under foot.
@@TVHouseHistorian Minimum wage and inflation has a ton to do with it. In the 50's, it took about 55 hours to pay for rent with a minimum wage job. In Portland that would take you about 120 hours. That on top of that, the general buying power is less than half of what it was. Meaning you have to work more than twice as long as you did to buy the same things. The US work ethic of "We work to stay free" isn't always true now. You don't just become the people in the videos because you decide you don't want to work anymore. They literally can't support themselves if they work full time. You are much more likely to develop a Drug and Alcohol addition if you're unemployed. I believe it's because of the lack of structure, free time and shame.
Duh these trash people dont want to be controlled. But the developers that are friends w the mayor got big kickbacks.
This is normal. In the summer some homeless people would rather sleep outside, since the shelters can be unpleasant to stay in for a variety of reasons. But when the weather is bad like in the winter, they go back to the shelter to escape the cold. It happens all the time.
Allow drugs in the shelters now!
@@kevincourtney7312 No.
@@kevincourtney7312 they already do drugs are pretty much legal now
@Smellegance I'm Oregon it's not an arrest to use or possession of any drug..............meth and fethinal included
Here is a different perspective:
"My story:
I came to Portland in June of 2020. The second weekend of the George Floyd riots "mostly peaceful protests".
I knew no one. I had no place to stay. I had three days change of clothing and $120 to my name.
I could have blown my $120 on some legal pot or worse, and gotten high as a kite for that weekend, but then, come Monday I'd still be homeless and I'd be broke.
I got into a shelter. Yes, they had rules, but I didn't have to worry about where I was going to sleep if I just played by those rules.
-Be in at 7:00pm and stay in till 6:30 the next morning.
-Shower every night before bed.
-No smoking, drinking or drugs on the property.
-Don't be disrespectful to the people who are GIVING you a place to stay.
-Work diligently at getting help to get back on your feet.
Five weeks (remember this was the height of Covid lock downs) it took me to get into a hotel room while I worked out a job and a permanent place to stay. I still had to follow rules.
Two years later, I've still got my place, I'm still sober, still clean, and still playing by some rules. Not as many as in the beginning, but there are still rules. I'm not living like an animal, and I'm not blaming the entire world for the problems I created in my life."
I used to volunteer with the homeless in Portland back in the 1990's. Most of the people I spoke with didn't want to part with their possessions to take advantage of the shelters, and for the reasons given in this video. Also, for many this has become a subculture lifestyle that they choose 'to be free' and following society's rules was not something they wanted to do. This is the unfortunate choice that they make.
_"No doors, no walls"_ Then they are homeless by choice. Choosing to camp out rent-free on sidewalks and parks is a drain on those of us that are part of community, those that choose not to be part of community have obviously snubbed their noses at what help is out there.
Isn't this the land of the free? Do what you wilt shall be the whole of the law.
@@IntriguedLioness Not necessarily. They want safety. Many shelters are not safe.
Back in the 1990s, there were still affordable places to live with jobs nearby.
Who cares what they think is best for them?????
They obviously have no idea what they're doing in life, so why do we give them the agency over all of us????
I'd love a thought out response and not the same bleeding heart. You're killing these people with your "kindness."
If no one cares whats best for them then the likelihood of making a legitimate change decreases because there would be a disconnect between the services provided and the need of them receiving the services. If no one cares then your tax dollars are being wasted at a much higher rate.
All across america governments are squandering tax dollars in the name of social programs that do not actually affect change. Corruption and incompetence are fundamentally apart of america governance but the least an individual can do is 'care'.
Freedom is the ideal. Wage slavery, not so much.
"Who cares what they think is best for them?"
Said every communist ever.
@@benjamite15 nothing is free stupid
I was working and making nearly $20 an hour and lived out of my car for 2 years do to my bad credit so I couldn't get a place to stay and since I had no kids there goes any government help. I stayed at a shelter 2 times during the summer when it was still in the 80s at night.
Left the first time because of the cockroachs and how there was no AC. One guy said they never turn it on. The second time I left because this guy kept screaming all night and the staff laughed it off. Shelters aren't safe.
When I meet my gf we couldn't stay in a family shelter because we weren't married or had kids. She said she was told she was going to be killed when she fell asleep by a staff member. We finally worked things out and live in a motel.
Seriously? They expect adults to sleep like children at a school camp? There is no control over the person placed three feet away from you at night. They could snore, have nightnares, have psychiatric episodes, detox symptoms, sanitary issues, steel from you, touch you. There sppears to be plenty of space in these shelters. At least supply three walls and a curtain to give people some dignity while they are vulnerable.
The problem I had with the shelters was sleeping near others who were making noise with teeth grinding and snoring. You had to be in at 8PM and you were living with people who just got out of the prison or jail. They had rules about seeing a therapist and if you missed a session you would be thrown out. I had to get tent and find a spot in the woods. Thank God I had a car.
Vote blue no matter who.
@@Saxxin1 Dems are keeping you homeless. But they love how you think.
I got tired of smelling others vapors of their previous meals...
@saxxin1
Proves the data that most Liberals self report having mental health issues.
@@Saxxin1 LOL And put more people on the street? Ya right...
Everyone in every major city with a huge and out of control homeless problem need to see this short video. The two professional homeless men refuse shelters because there are no doors, no privacy, and there are rules! Living outside in public being an eyesore, and crapping in public, begging hard working Americans for money is the life for them. Shelters are a temporary place to live to help someone secure more permanent housing. The people who don't want to be professional homeless people will use the services. Watching this video made me have less empathy for the homeless like these guys.
Everybody is 2 paychecks away from homelessness.
@@ursulasmith6402 Maybe you should learn how to manage your money better
@@ursulasmith6402 Nonsense
@@carsilk2492 Can't happen. That would entail taking personal responsibility. It's much easier to blame someone else for their troubles.
@@ursulasmith6402 and many of us accept there’s rules and responsibilities still if we end up there. There’s apartment rules, there’s homeowner rules, there’s city laws, there’s state laws, etc. Homelessness is a choice when people refuse help due to rules. We all have rules.
Homeless people don’t like staying in shelters. They would rather stay in the streets. Many don’t want to follow the rules and most homeless are mentally I’ll and paranoid about other people at those shelters.
You are generalizing.
Paranoia is irrational fear. Would you feel safe sleeping in one of those shelters?
Squatting is a very viable option many are taking up.
Never leave your home unattended.
Of course not; you don't have any beer or liquor in there for them to drink.
None of them drink anymore. They all do meth.
Shelters are empty because staff treat homeless people in an inhumane way. No one wants to feel like they’re in jail without actually deserving that.
Ive been to four states and seven shelters, ive never seen a single shelter as clean and as nice as what they are showing here. One shelter that i stayed at in Ohio would have every one take all of there things and stuff it all in a back room anytime they new people were coming to look. We were told not to talk about it while those people were there. They really will kick you out, i promise, other one i stayed at in Ohio never had tolit paper, no soap... Ever, not a single time. we would have to go to the library and take a little for later, that same shelter no food, no beds, no blanket, two tolits for 130 people. These shelters are not realistic, they look good for the camras. The other shelters that ive been to they have a jail house mat that lays in the hall way, mat to mat up and down hallways. These mats are so dirty that your clothes get stains from laying on them. One of the shelters that i stayed at was considered a wet shelter, every single morning there was a river of pee and poop that you had to cross to get to the stalls, people were so drunk that they just poop on the floor. Afew people regular cut themselves, they would then draw on the walls in there blood. What is being shown here is absolutely one in a million shelter life. Yes almost all of the homeless have a drug and alcohol problem, they have mental issues because of the drugs, they have a name for it, they call it (going full r****d) shelters ive been at... Downtown Indianapolis, Tucson Arizona, Flagstaff Az, Columbus Ohio, Cincinnati Ohio, Kentucky. Most of these places have a one bag policy, i kid you not, you will be sleeping outside if you do not shove all of your crap into one back pack, and shut the f*** up and stand in line. On average wait time in line to get into the shelter is an hour and a half every single day, most of these places do not have any lockers either so every single day, your going to need to pick your five most important ideams and get rid of the rest. Ive only ever been to one shelter that actually had a washer and a dryer. To survive shelter life, its very important that you understand the unwritten rules, you have no clue how quick most shelters will kick you out, if you talk back, if you disagree, or if you try to show the public. Typically i try to count the average fights i see in three days, this gives me a pretty good idea of how safe the shelter is. Personally ive only been in about five fights (self-defense) in the last two years, the last one was pretty bad, i got jumped by three people, i was stabbed six times. Trust me unless you live there, your not getting the full story. I have friends that i have met at these shelters afew of them have done prison time... They claim the shelter is harder and more dangerous. I think discovery channel should have a show called (shelter wars) they could go undercover and exspose these places and all of the corruption going on behind the scenes. I think that its important to mention that there are some really good people working in these places, but there are also works that are so power hungry and will straight to your face talk down to you and tell you " no wonder your family wants nothing to do with you" i could write a book with just the stories that i have witnessed of people saying things that are so mean that they would make a grown person cry. I hope this doesn't get me into trouble...
I was in a shelter once when a man was taking a shower! While in the shower, he had all his clothes stolen! I don't drink or do drugs, my experience at trying a shelter was horrible! I would rather be dead! Never been in jail! I hear it is better!!
Another sign people don't want to live within the confines of rules and a matrix that does not serve them.
And I don't mean rules as in harming one another, only the rules that are put over us in order to have the simplest things in life. Whether you understand it or not that is a form of slavery.
Imagine saying about "other homeless" you can't trust 'em, not clean, just freedom to move around AND SHOCKED when the people of the community are LITERALLY saying the same thing about you! bruh The irony is unbelieveable.
Listen to the homeless. Dormitory style accomodations are not safe! Offer them accomodations that are safe and that respect the autonomy of the person, and your money will not be flushed down the drain
Their accommodations are better, and safer, than others where people has to work to pay for them (aka rent). Sign-in and sign-off seems to be too much work for the lazy individual on minute 1:06 of the video. People like you enable them.
I remember a shelter in Memphis used to have strict hours and required homeless to pay for the beds for the night, to go seek work every day but had to take all their stuff with them. Maybe if they were rooms, didn’t charge and backed off on hours they would be more helpful for homeless trying to get back on track.
Let them stay out to get high and pissy drunk
But there is way less homeless people in Memphis hmmm maybe there doing a better job
@@cgore4 these folks in Portland don't wanna pay or have any rules
@@cgore4 Yep. No free rides out there
@@lezobrandon3398 most homeless in Portland don’t come from the area…
lol, unsanitary conditions and concern of safety but the street is safer . . . .
I'm for helping people in need, but not people that abuse the system...very separate from one another!
Ye... so ive built restored and moved homeless shelters. Its a sad world, but drugs and drinking is why they dont stay there. Addiction is what needs to be addressed. not homeless. we have one in Grand Rapids. They can have their own apartment, with PRIME downtown parking(no lie ) They have their own bathrooms with kitchen and free AC/heat and CABLE TV. still have issues filling it. and we got people all over our streets
ok what shelter? bc i’ll move there and stay then
Legalize Iboga (herb that cures addiction) and allow people to have pain relief that isn't perspiration opiates (just weed that's it no alcohol, meth, fentanyl or anything else)
Wasted tax payer money. If they won’t go to a shelter, why build one?
Right. Carrot and stick approach is necessary. If there's no enforcement that keeps them from camping (littering, drinking, doing drugs, etc.) wherever they want - or at least in working poor neighborhoods, you won't see this in the nicer parts of town, the cops actually do show up there - why would half the people even go to a shelter? No, we placate them and pamper them.
But everytime i would call for a place they say they have no vacancies tf??
did you watch the video?
Shelters only go so far. How about cutting the cost of living so folks can afford a 1 bedroom apartment? Why not do that? Finland has eliminated their homeless problem. It has a good model to follow. Implement that here on the U.S. Monitor and make adjustments as needed.
Revolutionary Prepper: Exactly.
What a surprise that a known non-solution still doesn't work. Homelessness is solved through permanent housing and eliminating the traps that destroy people financially.
You're right. If governments weren't so wasteful, they could eliminate property tax, which would allow landlords to lower their rents by a large amount. If we didn't print so much money in response to a super cold, construction and repair costs would be cheaper, and they could keep the rents lower.
Landlords are not the issue. The extreme waste of the multiple layers of government is. You're taxed from the feds, the state, the county and sometimes even the city. And those taxes go to things like fake pharma crap and giving high-grade military gear to terrorists and mentally defective armies like the ana.
😭😭😭 more like permanent sobriety 🤦🤦🤦
@@manictiger landlords are definitely part of the problem. You cannot capitalize housing and expect it not to be exploited. We see this is every sector. Look at how corporations utilize shrinkflation to increase their prices far beyond the standard inflation rate. Good try though.
It's solved by the individual themselves getting up and doing something for themselves. Taking advantage of the plenty of places that they're actually are to initiate getting a life like walking into CODA or Allies to get off the fentanyl .Any barriers are created by the individual, they can take them down themselves or find a way around them. But the public constant pampering, pathetic pity, and progressive reform , telling them it's okay to steal all that stuff from Safeway and casually walk out the door if the rest of us pay, has backfired and always will.....
Same reason they are homeless. Rules and authority. They don't understand being safe isn't sleeping in a park
3:50 mins in i saw my bike that was stolen at the max. lol i know cause its. a custom paint job. it took a lot of time to put the stickers. nice too see its being used.
You have to sleep with one eye open. You'll get your stuff stolen more often in the shelter. If you have a tent and find a secluded spot or get invited into an encampment you'll be much safer. I've lived in two encampments and we all looked out for each other
In refugee camps they built small metal tiny homes for each family. There were issues of children and young adults often men running. It’s hard to house too many people and be afraid there may be tension or assault or rape. There weren’t enough of these pods. It’s so tough to build enough. People came from Afghanistan Syria Ethiopia Morocco Pakistan Yemen. And I’m sure more places. There will be tensions when they are all jumbo together
"My story:
I came to Portland in June of 2020. The second weekend of the George Floyd riots "mostly peaceful protests".
I knew no one. I had no place to stay. I had three days change of clothing and $120 to my name.
I could have blown my $120 on some legal pot or worse, and gotten high as a kite for that weekend, but then, come Monday I'd still be homeless and I'd be broke.
I got into a shelter. Yes, they had rules, but I didn't have to worry about where I was going to sleep if I just played by those rules.
-Be in at 7:00pm and stay in till 6:30 the next morning.
-Shower every night before bed.
-No smoking, drinking or drugs on the property.
-Don't be disrespectful to the people who are GIVING you a place to stay.
-Work diligently at getting help to get back on your feet.
Five weeks (remember this was the height of Covid lock downs) it took me to get into a hotel room while I worked out a job and a permanent place to stay. I still had to follow rules.
Two years later, I've still got my place, I'm still sober, still clean, and still playing by some rules. Not as many as in the beginning, but there are still rules. I'm not living like an animal, and I'm not blaming the entire world for the problems I created in my life."
These are still autonomous adults. We cannot treat them like children just because they are homeless. I don't know the solution, but it seems as if the homeless issue will not be resolved until the underlying reasons for some of the homelessness is.
The walls of a tent 2 feet from the street offer much better protection than a shelter. Wake up sheeple!
Because it’s not homelessness that’s really the problem. It’s fentanyl addiction.
You can always tell the people that have never stayed in a shelter by the comments that they make.
Have you stayed in a shelter?
@@therose5783 have you?
@@karlabritfeld7104 ... Even though your name is Karla, you are a definite KAREN.
Portland's management is so good with their citizens money, smrt
The shelters need to have more privacy, even if there are less beds to be able to lock them self in like a bathroom door gives a little security even one night came give a lot of strength to go on.
The relationship between the homeless and the taxpayer is a one way street. The homeless do whatever they prefer and the taxpayer goes to jail if they don’t pay for it. I think it is time to start sharing or sympathies with the poor taxpayer.
“No walls, no doors, no nothing” like they have any of that on the streets! This is a drug and behavioral problem, they just don’t want to follow rules.
They don't want to go to a shelter because there are rules and you can't do Drugs .
Stop discriminating against people living with pain and mental illness, make all drugs legal now!
@@kevincourtney7312 It's not discrimination to just state a fact , and I agree all drugs should be legal .
@@landofwaterfalls While not totally legal, most drug use has been de-criminalized, or are never enforced at this point in time in the state of Oregon. A lot of money once used for enforcement has been earmarked for treatment. But something like less than 2% of that has been tapped, because most drug users don't want to get clean, and there's no one holding them accountable or even pushing them to get clean. It's all by choice.
As opposed to your self righteous addictions.
I wish there was a way for them to safely store their belongings... I can't imagine trying to sleep and worrying about my things 24/7. Really sad... It's too bad. Portland can do better.
Wow. I think this city has given all it has, plus some. All those guarded tiny houses- empty. When they say” safe place for their stuff”, they mean “able to do whatever, whenever I feel like it. No rules”.
More prison for the law breakers.
I'm homeless. I chose to do so. I'm sick of the prices of rent to vultures. And the city council chose to let Portland burn. That showed a lot of people who they really are. So, don't be surprised when people don't trust you anymore. I myself proposed tiny home villages, and built one to show it could be done. But the city and mayor hales decided to let it die from attrition. They never once asked us what we needed. So, Portland can blow its "programs" out it's butt. You now have to "earn"back the trust...now I live in a fully restored vintage truck and camper. I drive around and help people with what I have. Portlanders need to stop being fed fear and step up.
Rent is too expensive and it’s surprising our leadership hasn’t done a single thing to fix it…
Thanks for letting us hear it straight from the horses mouth, so to speak. Its important you guys are heard , even if at first it seems like no one in position to help is listening.
Thank you for sharing what's actually going on in Portland.
I was lucky enough to buy a house cheap 10 years ago. If not for that I would be back in an RV that's the way to go. Head north in the summer and south in the winter
HeD Today I met a mother with two kids in the Gateway Winco parking lot that were living in a tent. I gave them some food and water and told her I had a spare car she could have. Surely there must be somewhere in Portland that they can get help... Are there any churches that are reaching out to these people? Any way I can contact you? Am very curious how you help people like this...
Why go to a shelter when there are no rules saying you can’t just hangout wherever you want and do whatever you want to anyplace in the city.
THE PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS ARE REAL HUMAN SOULS WITH REAL HUMAN NEEDS!!! SHELTERS DON'T WORK!!!!!!!
yea fr. each person should imagine if they ended up homeless, would they want to live in a shelter with rules and chores?? the street isn’t great but some ‘shelter’ isn’t worth it
Those are grown ass men they need to man up
Right! I wouldn’t want to go sleep with a bunch of crazies in a smelly hospital / dorm place with actual rules when the city lets me camp in a beautiful park without push-back. Lol…… in fact I’m taking the family on a camping trip in the Park Blocks this weekend! Drop in and say hi! Will be in the blue and white tent with two shopping carts and the pile of rusty bicycles.
The obvious solution is to contact the nearest St. Regis, Ritz Carlton & Hyatt Regency properties and place the homeless in all available suites. Only one bum per suite cuz, ya know, privacy and stuff. Also, make sure there is a full-time nurse on staff with plenty of Narcan.
Homeless or vagrant?
Which one needs access to a shower and quiet place to sleep so they can hold a job and help with affordable housing?
Which one is a useful expense and which is a waste of time and resources?
“Unhoused Portlanders“
They don’t wanna follow rules and you can’t do drugs inside of the shelters.
People will change when they decide to change.
Going on 8 years in Portland and this has been the conversation every day the entire time. Nobody either listens or learns, just repeat the same failed cycle. If you're going to turn this into an industry there can be better solutions that resemble actual housing with the amount of funding being pissed away on this, with everyone working in the expanding homeless industry even retaining their job titles and salary. The problem is the ones on top who making decisions and policies, including city council and above, are so out of touch with the very issues they're put in place to resolve that they can't hear/comprehend what's being said in this 6 minute clip, or even by paying an impromptu visit to a shelter (after they're open for a while, not a staged ribbon cutting) or camp.
I don't want to narrow it down to "they just don't care", more of a "they just don't get it".
Typical liberals in a liberal city. They have no clue.
Agreed! Please run for office! We need people like you
Build more prison, it is probably cheaper then "free" housing and addicts can get sober at the same time. Mentally ill can get treatment at the mental wing of the prison. Problem solved.
The common thread I hear is that homeless people want to be on the streets in tents and camps unless they're given an entire house to themselves for free, without any responsibility to pay or get a job or take care of it thereafter. Imagine.
This is insane… there’s no logic to this! No privacy in the shelter??? What more privacy do they have on the streets???
Oh, there is logic to their reasoning.
Go sleep in one then. People stealing your shit, sick people right next to you, people talking to them selves. Have you ever been outside at night? Pretty private 🤦♂️
A tent they can zip up, near people they mostly know, is what they are thinking. No, it's not ideal, not at all. Crime is still a problem. Filth and hygiene is still a problem.
Both situations are bad. Shelters might be worse at time for the homeless. But having them camp wherever they want is FAR worse for the rest of the city, businesses, it's citizens, etc.
@@allthethings6826 Not all shelters are like that.I helped run a salvation army men's shelter. Please refer to my above comment on here.
This is insightful and well researched. I wouldn’t want to sleep there. When I worked w refugees I realized they are human like me. And they want choices. They aren’t ungrateful. They want dignity safety and their preferences should be honored and considered
These men are lazy and entitled.
Exactly
Open bay shelters will never work...people HATE them. Try providing at least some semblance of privacy and get rid of the stupid rules.
People don’t like staying in shelters. Your only there for 6 hours and they kick you out. Permanent solutions will be better. Plus having a bunch of mentally I’ll drug addicts and some perhaps violent offenders together in one room like that is sketchy and not safe.
Maybe just lock up the dangerous violent mentally ill people away from society like any rational society common sense solution
"no doors no walls couldn't do it" says the guy living in a park
If you have a homeless bed for every single homeless, then half of them will go empty.
They’re being treated like children. No wonder they don’t want to be there.
You just don't get it. They want DRUGS, not shelter.
Homeless people saying exactly what the citizens are saying when homeless pitch up tents next to their houses. 😂🤣😂🤣😂
A homeless acquaintance of mine says he hates the Father's Heart winter shelter in Oregon City, because "Tweakers go in there and take control"
Uhh, not sure what that means exactly ....... Assume they run the show and boss people around, and staff isn't experienced enough to handle the nonsense
In Phoenix 90+ million in funds just sit in a bank account & isn't used to build apartments for the homeless, the $ has a expiration date if not used.
Wait so you’re telling me if I come to Portland Maine I’m guaranteed a bed in a shelter tonight since apparently most of the beds are being used. I’m gonna call BS on this. I would also say all the money that was granted for homeless services. Follow that money.
Look at what you get with no supervision and no rules . Wtf
Can't do your drugs
I work at a homeless shelter and we do have some rules and there is a lot fighting. We get a lot of people who leave and come back. I know I may work at a shelter. But when I was homeless myself I slept in my car I didn’t want to deal with all the rules
Question-how many of these shelters in Portland kick you out during the day??
If those beds don't come with meth, Portland's homeless don't want them.
Being placed on a cot,.in a dorm,.is just like prison. You're being "institutionalized". Nobody wants that. Also,.the REAL problem lies in the fact that our politicians needlessly waste millions of dollars putting this issue through an endless parade of committees that do absolutely nothing. Use the money on actually doing something about the problem. Not talking about it.
Whoever said people have to live inside is a fool. People have always been nomadic or claustrophobic or something else. It's just that people who pay ridiculous rent get mad that others aren't suffering from the madness like they are.
Why don't they offer Oregonians the same package as immigrants and refugees? They receive a furnished apartment, cash assistance, food stamps, medical, education, training and employment. I have nothing against refugees and immigrants I do javelin something against discrimination and misappropriation of federal funds. Don't create more shelters that won't fix the problem. Wasteful. Change the policies with the welfare system, housing and rent. Tanf, cash assistance should automatically have a voucher of some sort, and ir housing connection with an advocate. In crease the amount if not a voucher where ppl can actually use the cash assistance to pay for housing. The small amount wouldn't get you a studio especially when there is zero sudsidized housing available.
They want to make you believe that they're offering us the beds but we're being told the shelters are full
I would feel better in a tent than shared space. At least I'll hear the zipper before I get shanked. They should take an old building like an empty mall and make tiny apartments with shared cooking and shower spaces. People get privacy and peace, and it is affordable.
Keeping 30% of the beds empty every night allows them to push for bigger budgets. Lol
This is one reason why shelters are not being used. Some avoid certain people at the shelters. Another reason. No one can smoke meth and shoot up drug's in shelter's.
As long as they can do their drugs. They will choose to live in a tent.