Portland put out dozens of portable toilets for homeless people. Nearly all of them are now gone
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2024
- In September of 2020, Portland began putting out bright red port-a-potties so that homeless people had a place to go. Most of them have since disappeared - the result, officials say, of dwindling funding and vandalism.
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You get exactly what you vote for.
That is the absolute truth!😂
what makes you think voting is legitimate? if there is this much money floating around I am 100% it is not.
All the southern red states have the highest violent crime rates and lowest income. Less homeless because they could be shot and no one has a nickel to give them.
I sold toilets and we charge $20 per month includinng the toilet and cleaning. The $5749 PER TOILET is going STRAIGHT into politicians pockets which is why the homeless problem wont go away.
Especially when you vote with your own bought and paid for politician.
Whatever happened to...self reliance, personal responsibility, dedication, hard work, clean streets, safe neighborhoods?
Democrats said 'Don't worry! You don't have to be responsible or sensible! We got you! Go buy houses you can't afford! Go take out student loans you have no intention of paying back! We got your back.'
Progressive policies.
Poison to society.
that is being taught as a bad thing in tax funded schools
Drugs happened.
What happened? Progressive Democrats happened
People can be compassionate and generous but the thinking that homeowners with mortgages to pay, property taxes and all the other costs involved, plus the requirements of city codes and laws that must be complied with ... have to suddenly accept potties out in the street and people camping with tents in the neighborhood and community parks ... is insane.
They wanted socialism, now they have it.
Well, its either that or seeing piles of shit laying here and there. I know which one I would prefer to see...
Houseless people aren’t camped in numbers around wealthy home owners paying mortgages. Houseless people live around renters in low income neighborhoods mostly. Why is that? Comment section is full of a bunch of capitalist whiners upset their bottom line is impacted by the houseless rather than showing some compassion to fellow humans. Our SOCIETY created houseless people, the houseless people themselves didn’t want it. Who would want to live in the elements, addicted to drugs, fearful of being robbed or assaulted at any moment? Everyone wants to blame the individual, never taking responsibility for the society that created the situation. Maybe we should try something different than what got us here…
@@wf2197 "capitalist whiners" ... seriously ...
@@wf2197 Intresstingly, the more republican a city gets, the less problems of that kind seem to appear,,,,
People who say drug use is a victimless crime love to ignore the collateral damage.
I lived in downtown Portland for a few years and did apartment maintenance for 5 buildings and I'll tell you first hand that the homeless will take a dump wherever they want to. Stairways, trash enclosures, sidewalks ect. I'm sorry they are homeless but they are some of the most disrespectful people around.
Don't be sorry
Id take a dump right next to you and im not homeless
what do you expect them to do? if you don't have a place to shit then you have no choice. Its like you think people can just not shit. thats not how nature works.
Why are you sorry they have job opportunity all over. The only people you should feel sorry for is the one that work and live a good life and have to deal with the losers.
id debate the word "want" there,i highly doubt much if any actually desire to do so, but as is both stated and completely reasonable to assume regardless, they go where they can when they can, maybe they don't have time to walk downstairs, or maybe on the street they'd get caught and in legal trouble, im not saying they're kind or anything for doing it,but i don't attribute it to malice, life forces unfortunate choices on us occasionally, we don't all always have the luxury to slowly sort it out.
be thankful you're privileged enough that it sounds like you can't quite clearly understand the subtleties of the situation.
The only solution is to arrest the homeless for camping and doing drugs on the sidewalk
Lax drug laws fuel the problem
That requires jails. Jails cost money and it can't be stolen like in a community redevelopment group with people making 200,000 a year and stealing the rest of the budget.
@@theodoresmith5272 once upon a time, and not that many years ago, Portland taxpayers bought and paid for that new jail, Portland's progressives gave it away at a fire sale...
WHAT??? Holding people accountable??? You awful awful person.........
Yep! It’s a deterrent and it works! If you actually talk to criminals and addicts, they admit this. Or, just visit red cities.
People constantly say housing costs too much as the source of the homeless. Then I see dudes like Nathan who are obviously elbow deep in a three day meth bender.and I know deep down in my heart that it's drugs keeping these people on the streets
Importing 3rd 🌎 BARNACLE BABIES have created a homeless situation and the importing of DRUGS/ Hispanic DRUG CARTELS are OBVIOUSLY a part of the problem!!!
In Portland, vandalism is a basic human need that must be protected.
Grandfather told me to go take off hides of critters he had me shoot dead in his livestock pastures.
Saying if hung on barbed wire fencing the smarter brutes will go elsewhere and leave their stupid
a promised introduction to Darwinism.
Just like the destroyed toilets, any housing homeless are provided will also be destroyed.
By the beginning of December 2021 Seattle had had 1,100 encampment fires and still had the month yet to go! Not to mention the other real home fires they had to deal with. It was THE most UNsafe place I have ever lived. And no, I don't live there anymore.
🏍️ What will black people not destroy or steal ?
@AnIdiotMakesThings And I see as your name says, your an IDOIT! lol Wanna try again,, or are you out begging yet again LOL
It's been 4 days and no comment?? YEP you're an idiot just as your stupid name says LOL
Very true. I see it in the neighborhood I live in.
This is absolutely true. A different motel from the one referenced in my long winded post above, opened their doors to the homeless to help get them off the streets during COVID. They repaid the owners by rampant drug use and trashing the place. I will say that some of our tenants were very neat and orderly. Those people followed the rules and were respectful but they were few and far between. You could always tell the people on meth, the place would be wrecked within 24 hours. We got a little tired of cleaning up after them!
If Nathan can build his own toilet, maybe he should get off the drugs and get a job as a carpenter?
But then he’d have to use a clock to know what time to get to work, actually show up, do work and be sober enough not to chop his hands off…
Nathan also has a van he sleeps in. Perhaps drugs had nothing to do with his current situation. Perhaps you shouldn’t assume you know someone’s story based on limited information and your your own narrow understanding of the world around you. Furthermore, why would he need to get off drugs to get a job in construction? You clearly haven’t spent much time on a construction site, because construction workers tend to do a lot of drugs…….,,,,and not to spin your head completely around but some professionals such as business owners, attorneys and yea even doctors sometimes do drugs!😱 Okay, you can return your head up your ass from whence it came!
@@r8chllettersLMFAO! That was a great one!
Amen to that
💯💯💯
I worked for Amazon delivering in downtown Portland, every single portapotty was absolutely full of trash, shit smeared everywhere, utterly revolting
There used to be a porta-potty at one of our company facilities that we kept in conjunction with two other companies. We ultimately had to take it out. The homeless would camp inside it. We would find them locked inside it, or a nest of old clothes and blankets laid all over the floor. Needles were everywhere. The urinal inside would be full of cigarette butts. Shopping carts would be abandoned nearby, etc...
My dad used to sleep in a porta-potty when he was homeless. He weighed 130 lbs and was on drugs. He says his teeth were black. He got sober and has owned a business for almost 30 years now. Those are the cliff notes, at least lol
Sad.
@@sitcomchristian6886 What was it that finally got him to leave the streets?
Did he say that it cost $75,000 per month to maintain 130 porta potties? That is $5769 per month per toilet. It will never matter how much money is put on the table to fix the problem. Homelessness is putting money is someone's pocket and not going towards the problem, must be why nothing ever gets done..
That's 576.00
@@George-vf7ss Correct. It still seems like a lot of money.
It's the homeless industrial complex
Math...not your forte, eh?
@@tomdehen One vandalized portapotty and you’re in the red.
Portland itself IS the public toilet.
Port-a-potty Portland
@@openleft4214. PP and P
@@openleft4214 Port-erpotty-land
And it NEVER flushes.
I think most states are.
Yes, even the homeless deserve dignity. It's sad that there are a portion of homeless who destroy and vandalize these toilets thus ruining it for everyone else.
For 30 years I've watched cities tackle the homeless problem and for 30 years we have never had any positive results. Not a single city, charity group or politician who's tackled homeless has ever come out with positive results. In every single case the homeless have become worse. I've stopped caring or having any sympathy or empathy for this. They destroy everything they touch.
30 years of not just no positive results, but 30 years and it's gotten worse. Billions of dollars spent on their behalf and nothing to show for it but even worse problems. Caused by them. Enough.
Billions spent? Like how many billions? Is it equal to the $750 billion this nation spends to fight it's wars, every year?
I wonder if our nation could possibly solve some of our domestic problems by borrowing from that giant, camouflaged piggy bank?
P.S. Care to source that billions claim? Who is spending billions on the homeless? Where's that cash coming from? Etc...
@Air Supremacy That is also the sad truth in Vermont. Some non profits are nothing more than fundraising groups and deliver little if anything to those their mission statement is supposed to serve.
@Air Supremacy It is the norm, you're right. Having you show up for meetings means they get to "count" you as an in-person meeting and delivering "services." Let's remember, you tick a lot of boxes for them on the "client" list (homeless, low income, disabled, woman, BIPOC, vet...). Those meetings serve only to help the nonprofit get funding from gov and donors Not to help you. They are nothing more than a fundraising org investing in their staff, retreats and training so they can deliver miniature toiletries to clients.
@@codymoe4986 don't worry about billions. How about asking yourself if you spent any to help? If not, STFU. It's morons like you with bleeding hearts and no clue how to fix this issue. Stupid liberal morons are retarded as fuck.. keep voting blue, dumb shit!
@Air Supremacy How can regular people get a copy of their taxes or financial disclosures of the organization? Is it in their Annual Reports? "Non Profits" should have to be transparent and disclose how the money is spent.
Porta potties getting vandalized and the city failed to see that coming. why am I not surprised.
One of them was spray painted with a "NO TOILETS!" tag. Imagine that wasn't the homeless people vandalizing it.
@@DaedalusDesign oh, I see, like when b people claim racism, when it was actually them being racist! 😂😂
Politicians are the ones SELLING THE DRUGS. I sold toilets and we charge $20 per month includinng the toilet and cleaning. The $5749 PER TOILET is going STRAIGHT into politicians pockets which is why the homeless problem wont go away.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Ahh Portland, you never fail to fail.
If I only had "wit" like that.... That's a good one and you got to know some Jack leg gonna plagiarize it.....
I stole it from some guy named Stills...
@@AZCobraman Haha. You know you could easily replace Portland with US Guberment and cover the whole gambit......
We're certainly heading that way...if not already there.
@@AZCobraman Yes Sir, We're on the same page..... I'm 61 and decade's ago I would have never thought I would be this cynical.... I believe our parent's and grandparents having lived through the depression and war's sacrificed and labored hard to secure the next generation's...... And what We're seeing is a crying shame..... Puzzling maybe?.... Or possibly conflicting, I've told friend's for decade's that I am amazed thing's work as well as they do..... At least in my life they do, never wanted for anything within reason, went hungry for a day nor was without shelter and sometime's envy folk's that have nothing with material excess like a ball-n-chain.... And God's like really?..... And God's like ok "that's easy"..... And I try to not take thing's for granted and I do want future generations to be free and secure and I'm sure I pride myself in that as I have no offspring and the ghetto side of me want's to say f---it, who cares and that's the point I think God for my Christian raising and didn't mean to get off on a diatribe.... Diatribe, big word for a countryboy...... I went to your channel and quite impressive...... I don't know jack about music and suppose I'm 50/50 country and rock..... And I do believe I could write and especially on the country side and always adding verses and lamenting they could have done so much more with some song's...... But I imagine if it were easy everybody-would-do-it..... Your guitar's remind me of an older friend when we worked in the steel mill, my friend said he saw the Monkey's at Greensboro Coliseum NC and Jimi Hendrix opened for them, he seemed pretty straight up, I guess it's true.....
Portland is such a beautiful city, I just love what you've done with the place Ted.
Lies again? Potty Training
I know a successful Green Business owner with a full-time crew
who purchased a house and is seeking a build lot for his fleet.
Due to the first job found on arrival to Portland. Titled: Crawl
Space Monkey. Dirty but paid well, got a license, and lives large.
We were homeless last summer. We spent not one second unsheltered. The rules of the hotel we got placed at were ridiculously easy to abide by. We are no longer there, as we got placed in a beautiful apartment in a not great area of our city.
IT IS 100% A CHOICE TO BE UNSHELTERED! Choices have consequences, no?
Since you admit you were homeless last summer, I was just wondering, why did you CHOOSE to do so?
Were you bored? Looking for some adventure? Trying to shame the neighborhood bum into doing better for themself?
@@codymoe4986 We didn't choose to lose our longtime home because the person that bought it had no interest at all in being a landlord (totally his right), however I have never in my life been unsheltered. It took 4 months to find an apartment in our price range. Our family spent the summer in a Motel 6, with a fitness room, pool, and occasional functions for the kids. We now have a beautiful apartment that I would happily pay double for (considering utilities are included, as are the top 2 floors of the building).
What is up your ass? I guess you sacrifice reading comprehension on your high horse.
Here's your 🍪. Go away.
@@codymoe4986 homeless, not unsheltered. No one is complaining about people being homeless, but rather choosing to live in the streets versus taking advantage of available services. Drugs and mental illness are why these people are on the streets. Quite frankly, these types are a lost cause.
You can be homeless and still pick up the trash! It’s disgusting. Today a homeless woman walked up to me and asked me for some money for food. I told her go to the 16 churches that are all around here. They will all give you food. She said I don’t wanna do that. I said I don’t wanna give you any money then either. She walked away.
Yep. These are not good neighbors that are down on their luck, as some would have us believe. These are addicts that have zero intention of getting clean and contributing to society.
Oh, this really happens!
I've come to the conclusion that there is a secret contest between the homeless: the person who surrounds their tent with the most garbage wins the grand prize - getting 1st dibs on a freshly opened dumpster!!! (WoooHoooo....! I always wanted a broken 1980's fridge with no door. And the 57 unwashed milk jugs are just the icing on the cake! YAAYYY, I WIN!!!)
Hmm... Notice that "she asked for 'money' not for 'food.'
When i lived in CA the bums would yell at you if you gave them too little, i gave a lady 2 dollars on teh side of the road and she threw it at me screaming about how i could do better...it was all the cash i had, i was so pissed. i never gave a homeless person money again after that
The more the plans fail, the more the planners plan.
That’s the whole scam. People make billions from this.
The planners need to get new jobs
The Homeless Industrial Complex.
Communism will solve this, right?
Dayton Ohio is now doing something like this. I guess city governments don’t talk to each other. Not learning from others failures guarantees even more failures. When you subsidize a behavior (vagrants) you get more of that behavior not less.
So true , our government/states/cities are perpetrating and perpetuating that mentality/behavior etc……
I'm so glad I live in a state where it gets to -30 a few months a year
Notice how the people they interviewed cannot finish their sentences, they just trail off. I do not think restrooms, or lack thereof, are the problem here.
At what point will the left realize the experiment is a failure?
They've got a warm pipe waiting for them.
We demand the tax-payers supply clean toilets for us to vandalize.
Restrooms are a necessity regardless of your physical/mental state
@@nancyfunk615 You are not wrong. Did I say otherwise? Did you watch the entire video/investigation? Fact is, these people had access to restrooms, provided by the city. That is what this investigation was about, restrooms. What happened to them? Why was so much money put into an “experimental solution” that doesn’t really address the REAL problems? I get what you are saying and agree to a certain point, I would call them a convenience rather than necessary, if you want to argue semantics. I want these people to be okay. I want them to accomplish goals. I want them to turn their situations around and thrive. Throwing taxpayer money around, in this instance, did not work and did not address the real issues. Sorry if this is a rant, misappropriating funds is very frustrating to me. Wish you the best.
The whole city is a toilet so what's the problem?
Someone needs to put a lid on it.
It took less than a decade to turn this once beautiful, world-class city into the dump it is now. L.
@@jeffhildreth9244 Then dump the whole thing in the bin.
@@ronbennett7885
Along with All The Government Leadership!
LMAO Sooooo true
The road to this hell was paved with “good intention.” But no good deed goes unpunished- or taken for granted.
The homeless man with all his construction equipment and his construction skills demonstrated to me that he is capable of doing basic construction work. Call me a jerk but the Portland community can really help this man by "encouraging" him off drugs and "encouraging" him to work which will allow him to get off the streets.
They can but he’s got to want it for himself. The old adage : you can lead a horse 🐎 to water 💦 , but you can’t make him drink. Same is true for all of life.
@@missmarya747 Yes your correct, but enabling a drug user to stay on drugs and allowing a person who refuses to work by giving in to his needs does more bad than good.
You can hold the horse in a box until its off drugs then tell him if he gets back on drugs he will just go back in the box. That never worked though so what do I know.
@@kabnoot not sure of your point but thanks anyways
You can't help those who don't want to be helped.
Why did they choose a no bedroom, no bathroom house to live in? And why should anyone else have to pay for their bathroom? Nobody pays for my bathroom, in fact, I have to pay taxes on it every year.
A sense of dignity, who are the ones damaging and damaging and defacing all over the porta potties. The same homeless that people are saying they are attempting to help.
As a non homeless person that does Uber in Portland, I would appreciate more places to use the bathroom
And then where is Nathan going to dump the 5 gallon bucket when it is full?
The nearest river or storm drain.
Illegally dump it with no consequences while the typical homeowner will be punished for improperly sorting their recycling. For residents, the only realistic options are staying and dealing with it or selling and moving to a safer community where laws are enforced. Many places like that still exist even within very liberal leaning states.
@@ronbennett7885 lol please sell and move, I doubt your actually from here anyways
@@njmedina9848 You're correct. Would never live in a place like that even if the housing was free. Those who remain tend to be overly tolerant of such behavior which exacerbates the problem.
@@ronbennett7885 so what’s your solution? Kill them? Lock them up? I’m just confused as to what your solution would be since you think you’re so big brained. And this is all I’ve ever known, tolerance, not judging someone for not having a roof over their head, having love (or trying to) for everyone. The fact you could watch this heartbreaking ass segment and really have that same hate in your heart is crazy to me. He’s gonna go “Go illegally dump it” right? you’re so presumptuous get out of here you heartless weirdo you have no right to look down on anyone
Forget the homeless! You'll never have enough of other people's money to take care of the homeless.
Yeah, every time they raise taxes "to help the homeless" , they create more homeless people.
Exactly. Free stuff and money will never help. They will just freeload off others.
@@armamentarmedarm1699 California Mansion tax 2022, Homeless Hiring Tax Credit, LA county's .25 sales tax hike, LA 1.2 billion dollar bonds in 2016, CA prop 2 2018, San Fran Homelessness Gross Receipts Tax 2019, LA cty Measure 8 2016, Berkley measure P property transfer tax 2018, just to name a few. Billions are raised for the homeless and never gets anyone off the streets. Just like the roads never get fixed even though we have a billion in tax dollars every year for road repair.
@@armamentarmedarm1699are you dumb did the money used fall from the sky
They are human beings. Where's your empathy?
Between mental illness and drug addiction most homeless people cant be housed until those two underlying issues are addressed. But that takes institutional treatment, and possibly lifetime institutionalization for some.
no it does not. It takes safe supply clinics and taper programs where people can get the drugs they are using and access mental health and housing. you can do allot with your day when your not trying to feed your habit you can do allot with your welfare check too like pay for shelter and food. Sad part is this costs pennies these drugs cost barely anything.
When you choose to have no dignity in your life, and believe that a bathroom will provide it, and blame those "judgmental" people. Why is it our fault that you chose party time over work?
Why do these naive Portlanders think people who can’t be bothered to take care of themselves, will bother to take care of free stuff they’re given.
As Margaret Thatcher famously said, Sell a man a desert and he will turn it into a garden, give a man a garden and he will turn it into a desert. 🤔👍🏻🇬🇧
They were put out for the public and all the homeless. The homeless didn't respect them and destroyed them. Too expensive to replace. They created their own mess
As a high functioning drug user. I know very well how these folks operate. Drugs, alcohol, toilets, lack of housing, etc are not the cause of homelessness. Mental illness caused by trauma (really the lack of support and skills to take on and deal with trauma are missing). Trauma itself isnt even a correlating factor, the inability to process any given amount of stress or adversity is a culture ending practice. Spend time with your children.
wow you are literally the only person who has the actual advise an answer to this thank you
@@natashalands2144 just my opinion, but it is what I have learned through personal experience and researched for my own survival and positive change. The rabbit hole is deep and pointing at the edge doesn't teach us anything. It's scary looking in and scarier knowing you may never come out.
@@jeawbone What society fails to understand is these are all people who have suffered mental, physical and sexual abuse. We tell these abused people we do not care about you go self medicate use dangerous drugs. This is not how we should be treating trauma, dehumanizing folks. I feel this can be saved with safe supply clinics. taper programs, beds without barriers (no curfews, no being clean) If folks can be given safe medical grade longer lasting opioids, no longer go without food and shelter, safe clinics with access to mental health & housing resources. First step getting these folks of dangerous mixed drugs from cartels. getting them off the daily hamster wheel of addiction. When you do not have to worry about getting sick you can spend your day getting better.
My last 22yrs was spent as an OTR refrigerated trucker, finding a safe legit place to park for my Mandatory 10hr break was challenging in some parts of the country, Especially around the Portland area.
I'm glad that I'm no longer in the trucking industry.
I know a guy that cleaned up his life after over a decade of crack addiction. He tells me constantly that it isn't about the drugs... It's about the person using them and that's precisely why so many fail. He says it's about recognizing that you are a selfish baby and a scum bag and getting on the road to fixing that. That's his words, not mine. He has been a sponsor for a lot of people and he said if they mess up more than once he basically drops them and tells them they are overgrown selfish, weak little babies like he used to be and until they want to change who they are, and stop that "hustler" attitude, to get out of his face with their whining. Again, his words, not mine. With that in mind, you will never change this unless those folks want to change themselves.
Humans, dogs, and liquids have something in common, the move in the path of least resistance.
This is a lie and this is not crack this is fentanyl if you ever got addicted you would be a whiney selfish baby withdrawing in a corner wishing for death or dying as a shock to your system. These drugs physically latch onto your body why do you think people who have money go into self induced comas to get clean. The reason there is no fix to this is because there is no taper off programs. Go look at other countries and their solutions you selfish scum bag lol
I agree with your friend. It's stunted growth...doesn't matter what caused it.
Wish i could upvote this 1000 times. Personal responsibility!
i thought addiction wasn,t a question of morals.
Portland is like that really horrible new-age parent that gives their spoiled kid an ice cream cone when they are naughty instead of spanking them or giving them a time-out.
No, it's more like Satan that deceived people into it being a creature of light when it is a creature of lust+greed. USA is a population of idiots. You're all just chewing cud waiting to go to the chopping block yourselves.
The solution is simple. 12x12ft rooms with a toilet+tub. Designed so they can be sanitized easily with jets of bleach. And an ability to get food, medicine, and medical care. The cost would be trivial. Mental institutions for the crackpots that cannot maintain a room. Prison for the violent.
In a 24x144ft space, you could house 100 people in 4 stories, 200 people in 8 stories. 1200 people if made 144x144ft, which is just 2 mobile home lengths. Could've been done for a million dollars, ages ago. The problem is that people want to find a way to profit off homeless. They don't care about solutions.
two invisible comments ;)
@@aone9050 I have 2 comments here 🙂 are they being hidden? 🙁 Censorship is a regular thing for me even though I don't say bad things. Common sense will not be tolerated, only the narrative.
Wel said
She said the porta-potties are very very very very important and yet the people who say they are very important are the same people who vandalize and damage those oh so very important portable toilets.
I was in a large city in India several years ago and our driver went through the worst slum I've ever seen. People had blue tarps to sleep under and the whole area was a mud pit. The representatives of the company I was visiting were embarassed and one of them said, "you shouldn't be seeing this". India has lots of these slums. I never thought the U.S. would have slums like this, but now we have a lot of them and they are growing in numbers. WE ARE NOW A S.H. THIRD WORLD COUNTRY. Thanks a lot Democrats!
Almost all the people on the streets can give back even if just a little. Clean spaces, scrub graffiti, pickup trash, .They don't care and all they do is consume.
Your post stopped one word short: "... drugs."
Right !!!
Look up homeless people in Japan....
Every spot where they live is clean and cleaned by them. They keep their small area where they live tiddy, no garbage, no drugs, no violence, they aren't rude to people.
And no suprise, people in Japan don't really mind the homeless people, because they aren't a drain on and danger to society !
What a concept!
That's essentially all humans, everywhere. Except most wastefully overspend , overbuy, throw everything in landfills. Human overpopulation and consumerism are destroying the world.
The more you “ help “ these people , the less they help themselves.
There not looking for a hand up but hand outs never changing , staying the same year after year.
Because they're mentally ill. We need to bring back mental hospitals but pay the staff well and have constant supervision so they don't abuse the patients
The help is expensive stupid bandaids you want to fix this give them all free safe supply of drugs. when they do not have to spend their welfare checks on drugs they can pay for shelter and food and get mental help. These tactics of pipes and bathrooms is a waste of money but it sure does keep non profits in business
@@natashalands2144 Ya then you'll end up with run down dilapidated living stuctures, homes, apartments and just another bunch of tweakers roaming the streets high harassing taxpayers that are just trying to move about the city.
They only help themselves the politicians and NFP they could actually solve this but why then the money faucet would stop
How is this even remotely legal !
If rents weren't so outstandingly high there wouldn't be near as many homeless people.
The biggest issue is that normal people have to choose between being kind and humane and living in a safe and clean environment. People want to help but those toilets are a big "set up camp here" sign.
The homeless are going to "camp there" regardless. It is much more sanitary for them and the housed folks living nearby to provide restroom facilities.
@@valerielhw
Or not like every other city without a zombie infestation
@@valerielhw No they should not have to choose...why should people be held hostage...the houseless can just be pushed off!
I actually don’t want to help them at all. Follow the lead of the family and friends that already abandoned them. There are good reasons they did that, you know?
@@nathanlong4801
People become homeless for all kinds of reasons. Mental health and addiction issues that need _treatment,_ not ridicule. Some are also homeless owing to PHYSICAL health issues and medical debts. And some homeless people actually work full-time, but aren't paid a living wage. As for families, many were brought up in abusive households, and/or they were disowned for petty reasons by really bad parents. You are in no position to judge.
If people such as you want to deny them even toilets, I hope they LITERALLY choose to crap in your yard, instead.
Portland looks for new answers from the same old leaders. Good luck yall
Create problems or not fix problems, then campaign about fixing said problems. It works.
nice ,i have to use that
If the homeless want toilets to use, they need to organize themselves and patrol and maintain these toilets. They need to defend them from vandalism, graffiti, and keep them clean and the area clean.
That sounds like a job, if they were willing to work a job they wouldn't be homeless in the first place.
Hoboes used to ride the rails because they weren't allowed to set up camp, and remain in one place for more than a day or two (at most). This made the homeless lifestyle a lot more difficult than it is today, which was a good thing for society as a whole.
In NW, they added a porta potty and wrapped it with wood slats, to make it a little bit more presentable. It didn't take long, to have the wood slowly removed and used as firewood in the homeless camp across the street.
😂😂😂
You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig. You can’t disguise a porta potty.
😂😂😂😂😂
To much money in "helping the homeless" than actually helping them.
It's a hustle
Let's be honest. These people would probably completely destroy portable toilets within a week and it would be a waste of money.
Any person with 1% self respect would never use one anyway. You can't even imagine how nasty and fucked up these would be within a few days. Way worse than the typical portapotty.
The loudest protest is against having a bright red box in front of your place. Grey would have been a better choice. Who chose bright red??
Portland Oregon is the modern day groundhog day. Wherever you are in the world you can see how bad Portland Oregon is. Crazy how a large City in the United States can turn into a third world situation.
Yes, it’s surprising what destruction can be achieved by simply embracing bad ideas for a few decades, as Portland has.
Turd World. Haha. Sorry.
Ain’t nobody learning’ that lesson.
It did not turn that way, Stupid politicians created this crap
It looks like the consequences of their actions are catching up with them.
The disgustingly low minimum wages that most companies now see as the pay to give, and high rents would have nothing to do with it then?? Nor the reduction or non supply of sheltered housing or hospital care for the mentally ill.
There's a difference from being "homeless" and being a "Junkie "
In soo happy the citizens of Portland getting exactly what they demanded!👍👍👍
they are the victims also. be better
@@hia5235 They DEMANDED exactly what they getting! 👍
@@hia5235 They are victims of their own decisions. Make better decisions. For instance, the fact that Ted Wheeler is still mayor, is a poor decision.
I'm glad all the rotten drug addicts from small conservative towns come to Portland and ruin it.
@@hia5235victims of their own stupidity.
I feel for the homeless with the lack of bathrooms but this is a complicated situation because a lot of them in Portland have so many resources available to get them into shelters but they don’t want to because it means giving up drugs.
That is why so many people do not care the homeless are not just homeless they are useless,and most likely always will be.
Not always ,do this places, have different kinds of programs, for ppl , drug addiction don't have a one size fits all solution
Exactly, its the same for my state. They prefer their drugs and alcohol over shelter.
@@wittle5788 I beg to differ with you on programs for addicts there are many. Addiction didn’t just start when the pandemic came March 2020, addiction has been around since i was a child. Before my child was born who is now 38.
Most dont care to get help. Most get HELP because of their addiction i seen it and see it 24/7.
WHEN I asked for help the criteria for help is: in my state.
A drug addict
An alcoholic
Being disabled
Being mentally challenged
Being 64-66 years of age
Having children under age 18
I met none of that criteria therefore NO HELP FOR ME.
I've spent some time in downtown for various reason. This hits it on the nail. They will not give up there fentanyl. Which is why soon the narrative will change to "whats so bad about being a junkie you bigot"?
When I was a kid there was parks every few miles with bathrooms and garbage removal. Then the huge throngs of immigrants came and they stopped it. The more crowded the worse it's gotten.
I'm sure dignity is their number 1 concern.
You Mean ,They Can't Even Leave A PORT -A JOHN ALONE. UNBELIVEABLE.
The woman at 5:10 says she would like to retain some dignity. The truth is, all your dignity was lost when you made the decision to do meth. These people are not capable of helping themselves anymore. They need to be forcibly committed to residential drug treatment programs, but that will never happen now that all drugs are decriminalized in Oregon. That law needs to be repealed, pronto.
Your right I’ve been on that road I wanted badly enough not to be so I did something about it but these people have come accustomed to this way of life they would rather die than change.
Why didn't they ask all those people, "why do they trash them?", "why do they vandalize them?" and if they ALL want to say it isn't them, then ask them, "Why don't you protect them?". But no, let's not ask any of those questions.
Turns out, when people don't have any ownership in something, they don't care about it.
Ow why leave trash, 💉 needles, clothes etc… but no not those questions.
They vandalize simply because they are stinkin' m@fuckin' assholes!
There is an unspoken supposition here that it is the public's responsibility to provide for these people. Nobody has provided a toilet or anything else for my use. Why should I have to provide one for them?
Lady makes statement“ the whole homeless situation they say they are going to take care of and yet nothing gets done”... lady there are services out there for you to access and yet you don’t take them, why?
Because there rules to accepting services and you don’t want to follow rules.
The companies that put them out there have to take all that vandalism and destruction as a loss. They're not contracting with the city anymore. Can't blame them. Portlands attitude towards prosecuting vandals doesn't help. Gives new meaning to the Schmidt show!
Actually you are wrong. The contract for the porta potties is fully covered. The city is just pulling back services to make the area less appealing as Portland being the "Giveaway" place to go.
It is a subsidy of Rapid response. They even cremate dead bodies on site after dark.
That is what insurance is for.
It is a fact that the more you do for the homeless. The more homeless people will migrate to your area. They do everything for the homeless that make them work for their income.
They should install grates under every bush so at least some of the above ground sewage can go underground. I always thought that would have been nice in SF. Just make the city into one big grate.
Make SF Grate
Thank goodness Portland decriminalized hard drugs, that will solve the problem.
All this won't matter anymore once people are allowed to camp unregulated. Wheeler destroyed this city and I'm glad I moved from Portland.
As long as Portland rolls out the welcome mat for homeless drug addicts they will follow that trail of free stuff. I'm gonna say, if one of those things appeared in my neighborhood it would be an instant target from home owners.
Nothing is free 🤓🖕
It's almost as if homelessness can't be solved through top down government programs
Sounds callous, but personal accountability is the first thing that comes to my mind with being present around all this mayhem for the past four years of living here. You can blame it on x, but at the end of the day, most of all life choices are just that, choices. I know it's a nuanced thing as every single person has a different story with variables that inevitably lead to wildly swinging outcomes, but we really need to have that tough conversation. I'm opposed to making poverty a crime, but at the bare minimum, the coddling needs to stop and maybe, just maybe, the pendulum can swing in a better direction.
Personal accountability is callous?!!! 🤦🤷
The problem is that while you can save one broken person, you can't save all of them. There are just too many. What makes it worse is that many don't want to be saved.
Yep, nearly all homeless are homeless by choice. There are lots of people that want to help but it requires getting off drugs and the homeless don't want that.
ive offered dozens of homeless people jobs. they are stupid, lazy, only care about smoking, cant show up before noon, want to just stand around and smoke or talk nonsense crap. they whine about everything. they ask why isnt there a machine to do this cause this sucks. well if machines did everything then only the machine makers, and business owners would have jobs.
@@crissd8283 not all feel that way ,do they different programs for them ,addiction don't have a one size fits all solution
@@wittle5788 That is why I said, "nearly all".
@@crissd8283 they dont want that ? LOL they cant go look up fentanyl withdrawal I hate this dumb argument. Your better off saying your government and non profits dont solve homeless crisis by choice they love the Homeless Industrial complex.
Los Angeles downtown has no public toilets except target and union station. None!
Vera Katz we need you now mor than ever !
I have a hard time having any sympathy for homeless people. It seems like most of them are homeless by choice, not circumstance. They seem to refuse to put any effort into improving their situation to a point where they are not homeless. As a person spent some time sleeping outside and couch surfing, I can say I never gave up trying to make my life better and I worked my ass off to achieve that goal.
Mental illness and addiction are the 2 biggest components of homelessness. Unless you MAKE people get treatment, and they WANT it, it will not change.
Because your situation is identical to theirs, and vice versa?
I didn't know the rest of us were supposed to be following your lead...
@@radolfkalis4041 I 100% agree that these people need help to improve their situation, but to remove their own personal responsibility for themselves from the equation isn't going to help them get to a better place. I've seen people go to jail, do a six month bid, kick their drug/alcohol addictions (by force, obviously), and the first thing they do when they get released is go get high. Which perpetuates their homelessness. So why waste time/resources on this person? If they refuse to take personal responsibility for their own well being, treatment is ineffective. My point being, most of these people are making a choice to live their lives that way, whether they know it or not, and any effort to correct their behavior is wasted because they immediately revert to their former selves as soon as they possibly can.
@@codymoe4986 If you have given up hope that you can improve your situation, and refuse to take personal responsibility for your own well being, then yeah, you should be following my lead. Homelessness doesn't just happen out of nowhere. A chain of events, and your subsequent reactions to those events, is what leads to being homeless. When family troubles, relationship troubles, employment troubles, and legal troubles fell upon me (all at once) at a certain period in my life, I made the decision to use drugs/alcohol as a solution to those problems. Which it obviously isn't. But I took responsibility for that poor decision, and decided to change my life for the better by working hard and never giving up on myself. Whatever your situation is, you always have a choice. You can choose to not give up on yourself. And no one can be forced to do that. It's a decision you make, or don't make, for yourself. I refuse to believe that these people's situation is hopeless and irreversible. That's what they believe, and what perpetuates their situation. People are more willing to help when they see someone making an effort to improve themselves.
There it is, right there. Thank you, Bryan.
I can understand nearby home owners being upset BUT the biggest frustration is people vandalizing them. What is wrong with people who have to destroy them? People who paint graffiti are just bad. We can't have nice things.
Then enforce the law. Americans have convinced themselves that "too many ppl are in prison". So, instead we now let anything go.
Its probably the nearby home owners who are vandalizing them because they are sick of homeless people and their bathrooms right near their homes!
@@mei6044 do you really believe that? Home owners are too busy working.
As with virtually every gov't. funded housing project, those who utilize these things have nothing invested in them, therefor no reason to maintain them.
@@flyoverkid55 great point and so true.
Ok, people demand access to toilets but are they willing to volunteer to clean and take care of them? NO!!! That right there is the problem. Demanding something but not willing to take responsibility for it. I’ve been in a pinch with my kids and we’ve tucked behind a bush BUT CLEANED UP. I can’t even with people.
You could not pay me enough to clean those porta-loos
Which makes me wonder, how many of the homeless would put up their hand to clean and empty them for a wage?
These people complaining about not having toilets when they're camping out on the street is insane. You know why there aren't any toilets out there guys? Because none of you are supposed to be living out there. The absolute lack of personal accountability on display here is astounding.
As opposed to the complete lack of empathy for their fellow man, being put on display in these message threads?
For every homeless person that could care less, there's one that absolutely despises their situation...
And yet, here you are, lumping the entire lot into one convenient target...karma can be a bitch, here's hoping your luck holds out.
And is there anywhere for them to go ?
To me, the vandalism and destruction is proof that the homeless population resents their presence and so should be removed. The people have spoken!
Sad to see how dependent people are for the government
With all the money supposedly being spent on this issue of homelessness, there is enough to fund these toilets. This should have been the first thing that was funded- keeping sewage away from human encampments so disease doesn’t spread.
They need to put a couple of those port of potties in front of Mayor Wheeler's neighborhood
I love how "everyone" has to always think of some "solution" for all these drug-addled people.
We do have to come up with some solution. The alternative is just letting our cities turn into filthy and crime ridden encampments. The problem with all the "solutions" they keep coming up with is they have no accountability or consequences for criminal and antisocial behavior. At some point the solution has to include a portion that says if you fail to comply we will jail you and dispose of your belongings.
First step has to be treating mental illness and addiction, but you cannot MAKE people take help.
@@radolfkalis4041 Yes you can. They can go through treatment or go to jail.
@@jordandowland7256 for that to happen, it needs to be part of a punishment for a criminal conviction. What I ment was, just being mentally ill or an addict is not a crime, therefore no one can make them get treatment.
@@radolfkalis4041 If someone is a danger to themselves or others, then they can be committed against their will. Sure, there has to be an adjudication process, but it's something that really needs to happen far more often than it does. Leaving mentally ill people in squalor on the streets isn't fair to them or to the communities they are camping in.
As far as crime goes, you hardly even have to look for it to find dozens of petty offenses among the homeless, from possession of stolen property to littering to open drug use to weapons violations.
A person like that will not walk 50 feet to a portable toliet when they can do their business right where they are.
what do you do with something that is broken and cannot be fixed?
I do know that the one nearest my home was burnt/melted a few times, and then replaced a couple/few times, and now has not been replaced. It would be great if that made some sort of internal sense, but it doesn't.
The great depression had a number of get back to work programs. How about a take on the civilian conservation corp. As a para military work force? No combat training. They are certainly NOT soldiers. But they get room and board in exchange for public work projects. They get job training, not welfare checks.
They are all on drugs. They need to be in jail.
That is a great idea. Hope they do something like that.
@@artfuldodger8147 not everyone can work 🤓🖕
@@firstlast8258 That is true, but at least it would help the ones who can work. And helping some is better than helping none.
Let me explain something to people who have never been homeless. I was homeless for 4 years, it was my own fault. I was a drug addict and alcoholic who refused to quit.
Most of the people who I met and associated with were like me. Our families had gotten fed up with our irresponsible behavior and I don't blame them.
Here's a little glimpse into the world of these people.
A manager at dunkin donuts felt sorry for some homeless people and let them use the bathroom, well, one dude went in the bathroom and stuffed garbage into the toilet and completely blocked it up. They had to get a plumbing company to remove the floor of the bathroom to unstop it. Thousands of dollars.
She was fired for letting these bums in the bathroom.
Now, it goes without saying that not all of those people are like that.
But the ones who are, you will never be able to help because they couldn't care less about you.
I know, I was homeless, I got sick and tired of it and took responsibility for myself and got out of the mess with help from good Christian people. I was in Nashville Tennessee right by the convention center.
That's the truth.
Stop wasting money on people who can't be helped, taxpayers are fed up and I don't blame them.
They were no longer needed and somewhat expensive. Your Streets and Sidewalks appear to do just fine.
If someone is camping on the street then they must leave. If they do not then they go to jail. Duh.
Nope. People have a right to exist.
So then they move to public parks, then get removed, so they move to your front lawn. Oh wait- that would be trespassing right?
So where do the homeless go if it's illegal to live on public property? Jail? That's your fucking answer? You want to make poverty a crime?
I ❤ the vibe in comments nowadays. Finally most are grasping reality, and people with heads in clouds have mostly shut up
I feel for the people who really just want to quietly use the restroom with dignity, but unfortunately this city was WAY too soft on crime and that ruined things for everyone.
Having safe and clean restrooms for the general public is what any society should strive for. This isn’t it.
@@user-cq3tc "(Side note: Funny how people who preach democracy so often are the ones silencing dissent)" AKA DemoRats!!
Well when you coddle them and let them run the city, give them everything they need then why would they get jobs and be productive? Why would they want to do that when everything is handed to them?
Portland, you're number 1 in the Number 2 department!
So lhre city put out port-a-potties for the homeless & the homeless lit the potties on fire- ok, think we may have identified a big part of the problem.
You think it's the people who want them and use them that destroy them? Are you an idiot?
Who's more likely to destroy a pot-a-potty? They guy that uses it every day, or the asshole that doesn't want to look at through his living room window? Or maybe it's some of those shitty entitled teenagers doing it for kicks.