It’s funny how you can stablish wilhelm the third,the only dude in the german royal family that supported the nazis as kaiser and everyone is ok but when wilhelm the second is asked to be put in power,everyone starts going againt germany lmao
Well technically he's just a figurehead and he didnt rule directly in a world war against old powers so it would make sense for everyone to not get so mad
@@nohandleisavailable still,imagine fighting so hard to push out the nazis only the restorationists put a kaiser that has connections to the nazis as head of state
@@drknight8546 he never had connections to NSDAP lmao, he met Hitler a few times but they were both using each other, he wanted to use Hitler to restore the monarchy, which obviously Hitler would never agree to, he hated the monarchy and the royals, but he knew he could use them to get a lot of support, when he actually had power, he completely cut off the prince and never met him again, the Hohenzollerns were no friends of NSDAP, they were as much an enemy as the Weimar Republic was
@Mars Because it limits your gameplay. The main focus of the game is war, and democracies can only justify war goals against ppl who have created world tension or when world tension reaches 100%
I’ve always said that if you rush the research slots in the democratic Germany tree you can become extremely overpowered. Alternatively I’ve discovered that if you declare war on the Czechs and lose on purpose the French just change your government without puppeting you or taking your land. And you get to keep the normal focus tree… yeah it’s a bit broken
New Zealand's alternative Democracy path is the worst in the game as it just makes you independent from UK and makes you leave the Allies, that's it, it just ends
Honestly while democratic alt history paths have never really been the best paths, ive noticed all of them are roleplay gold, Like democratic japan becoming a custodian for a future democratic asia, and germany uniting europe against soviet expansionism... That shit is amazing.
I really like democratic paths for nations, in particular I like germanies Japan's and Netherlands, because it gives goals in them as well as the ability to fulfill them
I dont know how many times I have done Allies run as minor country only to end up being denied the territories in focus tree. Greece, Turkey, Netherlands etc.
20:07 If you want an even faster end to the civil war you can delete all your divisions, take the divisions of Manchuria and Manchukuo, place them strategically in victory points beforehand and start the civil war (Instant capitulation!!). (Not my idea, I got it from a different youtuber)
Another awesome country to stay democratic with is Mexico. You can pretty easily conquer most of Latin America, and then turn your might against the US
I played Democratic germany and it was probably the easiest hoi4 game of my life. Despite playing on historical GB for some reason went fascist and declared war on france and usa and I managed to invite both of them into my faction. Thanks to that I managed to turn most major countries and basically all of europe against USSR. It was both easy and fun, it doesnt happen often to outnumber Soviet Union 3:1
If I remember right there is even a chance that you can core west prussia and poznan as democratic germany since poland gives it to you when it dies to sovjet russia.
12:26 No, you don't really want to do this. There is a 45% chance that it does not work out and then you loose 5% stability, which is way too much if you ask me. I had a game where this did not work for quiet some time and I lost like 30 stability
I honestly like playing democracies. I don’t always want to conquer, I want to be a good boy who obeys international law and defends the lesser democracies from harm (even though i do minor democracies.)
Democratic Australia is my jam. Playing a nation that just has to hold out until your allies come to help is really tense and way more enjoyable than invading the Soviet union as a fascist.
I'd say probably my favorite democratic path are Greece, megali idea is pretty much let UK and France kill turkey for you and get a bunch of land, and Bulgaria for the unifying the Balkans(though that's pretty much apart of all the paths)
If you have the dlcs, build an intelligence network in germany and just leave it there. The combat buffs associated with having 100% intel are super strong, and it makes the ai just give up on attacking you if you also have half decent divisions. It turns into world war 1 and buys you tons of time.
I live doing democratic byzantium and third rome.after the initial ideology switch you bank up demkcratic popularity and can still hold a referendum even after coups
wasn't really related to the video but I coughed and spat out a bunch of water and a non insignificant but still not threatening amount got onto my computer and I had to force shut down and make sure it was dry afterwards, thanks for the videos though I do like them
Mexican Catholic Democracy is OP too, you get ridiculous building bonuses and the hability to core the Caribbean, Central America and the US plus you have a free entry to te axis
The best democratic country has to be Italy now. If you start the monarchist tree there is a democratic branch, that still allows you to do your expansion focuses on the right.
You want the true experience? Try doing America but Lend-Leasing only. Good luck trying to get the Allies and Commintern to win, because the AI will only use fuel and guns. I remember getting really invested one playthrough, the Chinese-Japanese war had been going on for awhile, so I sent China like 50k guns, 2k Heavy tanks, and lots of artillery and planes. But China just kep losing. No idea at all as to why, I eventually tagged over to China and saw that they hadn't used any of my equipment besides the guns. The AI has a certain path they want to go down, normally involving not fielding the largest tank fleet in the universe. They will only field more infantry when a certain date happens as well. So the AI won't ever use stuff besides the basics like guns and arty if even.
The only problem of democratic Germany is a lack of human power. I was left with one million, huge economy, lots of territories but sadly no army or navy in the end
Average fascist fans: -Needs to expand early-game before the democrats become strong -thinking world conquest is fun for the 100th time Average democracy enjoyers: -enjoys handicaps -feels like the good guy -doesn’t need war as a way to expand
It would be nice to have an option to play as an aggressive democracy in Hearts of Iron 4. Setting up your own faction and cleaning the world of communist and fascist bastards. Once I thought about Czechoslovakia having such an option, but it is very limited, because I had to set every major player as an aggresive asshole unless I wanted to use toolpack to declare wars.
IIRC, UK "no more appeasement" path does exactly that by allowing you to justify wargoal on nation that didn't generate world tention and giving you wargoal on every totalitarian European country
I think that as democratic germany invading the soviet union, there should be events of ukrainians, bielorussians and other minorities revolting against soviet rule and joining your faction
Democratic Bulgaria is insane. You get all the Balkans as cores without even needing to fight plus massive army bonuses and +2 building slots in every core state.
I hope I will learn how to encircle enemy. It's basically essential part of a good run as lesser nation with own focus tree against main nations powers.
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Hello mountain
@@failuretv814 hey, at least it's not raid shadow legends
10:25 Based
my favourite country is north korea!
(please help)
It’s funny how you can stablish wilhelm the third,the only dude in the german royal family that supported the nazis as kaiser and everyone is ok but when wilhelm the second is asked to be put in power,everyone starts going againt germany lmao
Because hes js the constitutional monarch like queen elizabeth they basically have no power at all except the prime minister or the president
Well technically he's just a figurehead and he didnt rule directly in a world war against old powers so it would make sense for everyone to not get so mad
@@nohandleisavailable still,imagine fighting so hard to push out the nazis only the restorationists put a kaiser that has connections to the nazis as head of state
@@drknight8546 he never had connections to NSDAP lmao, he met Hitler a few times but they were both using each other, he wanted to use Hitler to restore the monarchy, which obviously Hitler would never agree to, he hated the monarchy and the royals, but he knew he could use them to get a lot of support, when he actually had power, he completely cut off the prince and never met him again, the Hohenzollerns were no friends of NSDAP, they were as much an enemy as the Weimar Republic was
@@drknight8546 wait.. this sounds very familiar
*Looking at Hirohito*
Democracy as a viable option in Hoi4?
Impossible
they should add a real election mechanic, like how it works in mods like Equestria at War
should give some flavor to democratic enjoyers
@@TheCatVtuberno just remove democracy
I play democracy most of the time and holy fuck it hurts
@@walter3719 a country needs to bomb another country, though. With a yin, there’s a yang.
@Mars Because it limits your gameplay. The main focus of the game is war, and democracies can only justify war goals against ppl who have created world tension or when world tension reaches 100%
I’ve always said that if you rush the research slots in the democratic Germany tree you can become extremely overpowered.
Alternatively I’ve discovered that if you declare war on the Czechs and lose on purpose the French just change your government without puppeting you or taking your land. And you get to keep the normal focus tree… yeah it’s a bit broken
I need to try that Czech thing, sounds like an interesting time
@@Ryukuro maybe it doesn’t work with the new peace deal so don’t be disappointed. I haven’t tried it recently
You could side with the democratic rebellion during that event too
@@mrttripz3236 its work
yea like germany isn't already overpowered...
I find myself preferred democratic Roman Empire over other based Roman empire path.
Roman Republic enjoyer
@@seatray_real Revolutionary Roman Empire, The Constitutional Monarcchy reigns!
@@seatray_real fax
Ğ 31 is a certified Turkish moment. Thereby I award you, my Slovak brother as a honorary Turkish Community Member.
Thank you 🤝
As a Turkish Community Member, i approve the award. And hope the continuation of contribition to the community.
Indeed
@@mountaingeneral you are now officialy Turkish
I remember a mod that was called 'better democratic germany' and the last focus was 'abolish democracy +' lmao
New Zealand's alternative Democracy path is the worst in the game as it just makes you independent from UK and makes you leave the Allies, that's it, it just ends
peace is best option for new zealanders
It is excellent for trolling in multiplayer as you're actively refusing to be useful to the allies while also refusing to be useful to Japan.
You guys might not notice it but he’s roleplaying Turkey IRL lol
Erdogan simulator 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🤘🤘🤘🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
@@mountaingeneral Erdogan on his way to be a mastermind of foreign diplomacy but fuck up in everything else 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🤘🤘🤘🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
@@mountaingeneral fu?k erdoğan :)
'A little bit longer video' bro I'd watch a 10 hour video if you released it - can never have enough Slavic mountain time!
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I think that democratic Germany can actually annex Danzig and Posen if Poland is conquered by the USSR.
there's also events where danzig and austria join you by themselves, and czechoslovakia can do a focus to donate sudetenland
its Gdańsk and Poznań you nazi
@@evill01 how?
But the question is would core south tyrol too
@@willimeister2553 luck
Honestly while democratic alt history paths have never really been the best paths, ive noticed all of them are roleplay gold, Like democratic japan becoming a custodian for a future democratic asia, and germany uniting europe against soviet expansionism... That shit is amazing.
I really like democratic paths for nations, in particular I like germanies Japan's and Netherlands, because it gives goals in them as well as the ability to fulfill them
I dont know how many times I have done Allies run as minor country only to end up being denied the territories in focus tree. Greece, Turkey, Netherlands etc.
So Germany just forms the EU (war edition)
+ research slot
One of the better videos you've made my man! Great work!
20:07 If you want an even faster end to the civil war you can delete all your divisions, take the divisions of Manchuria and Manchukuo, place them strategically in victory points beforehand and start the civil war (Instant capitulation!!).
(Not my idea, I got it from a different youtuber)
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10:23 the name is killing me lmao!
Specific unique and niche focus trees are really refreshing when the last few DLCs were just "WAR"
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Another awesome country to stay democratic with is Mexico. You can pretty easily conquer most of Latin America, and then turn your might against the US
yeah that conquring latin america focuses do not require any ideology and it is great
Thanks for 31 Agency my Mountain Pasha, its so funny
26-minute video by Mountain General? Screw my math exam, I´m gonna watch this masterpiece!
I have exam tomorrow, but Plains Field Marshall had uploaded
Based democratic ideology enjoyer
Only thing i wish for is that they allowed puppets with democracies, it just makes sense
Yes and also justify on democracies with the intent to topple corrupted governments
I just came home and got a video to watch!? Thank you dear General!
9:51 if the blue lobster even is on a HOI4 video… where can I be safe? Can we even escape it?
Try Mexico democratic. You can get the entire central America as cores, and put everyone else in the Americas into your faction
I played Democratic germany and it was probably the easiest hoi4 game of my life. Despite playing on historical GB for some reason went fascist and declared war on france and usa and I managed to invite both of them into my faction. Thanks to that I managed to turn most major countries and basically all of europe against USSR. It was both easy and fun, it doesnt happen often to outnumber Soviet Union 3:1
If I remember right there is even a chance that you can core west prussia and poznan as democratic germany since poland gives it to you when it dies to sovjet russia.
keep up the great work man this was pretty good to watch
12:26 No, you don't really want to do this.
There is a 45% chance that it does not work out and then you loose 5% stability, which is way too much if you ask me.
I had a game where this did not work for quiet some time and I lost like 30 stability
I think that Bulgaria also have cool democratic focus tree
+2 building slots in every Balkan state is pretty good.
I honestly like playing democracies. I don’t always want to conquer, I want to be a good boy who obeys international law and defends the lesser democracies from harm (even though i do minor democracies.)
Democratic Australia is my jam. Playing a nation that just has to hold out until your allies come to help is really tense and way more enjoyable than invading the Soviet union as a fascist.
I love watching mountain general play swedish map game
I'd say probably my favorite democratic path are Greece, megali idea is pretty much let UK and France kill turkey for you and get a bunch of land, and Bulgaria for the unifying the Balkans(though that's pretty much apart of all the paths)
Mountain General, your English is very good!
This video about cake is very good too!
MG, can you kindly play the wrost and best monarchist paths? Always watching your quality videos. ^^
Amazing video Man ❤❤❤
I keep on thinking you’re Romani because your accent gives me strong Castlevania vibes 😂
Lol
He is the strongest slovakian Chad wtf r ya tlking abt
I’d also like to see you give Democratic France a try, since I’m having a hard time
If you have the dlcs, build an intelligence network in germany and just leave it there. The combat buffs associated with having 100% intel are super strong, and it makes the ai just give up on attacking you if you also have half decent divisions. It turns into world war 1 and buys you tons of time.
Don't abandon the Czechs and you will have a way easier time
Always appreciate your uploads!
11:38 i cannot agree more. just look at him man
Playing as democratic Czechoslovakia is kinda cool, u can resist and eventually beat the germans and form Austria-Hungary
10:23 I really like the name
My favourite
1 Japan
2 Turkey
3 Germany
Yknow it is very true when teamwork makes the dream work
Loved your spy agency name for Turkey. Ğ 31 all the way. LOL
I live doing democratic byzantium and third rome.after the initial ideology switch you bank up demkcratic popularity and can still hold a referendum even after coups
The netherlands forming the eu is also really fun as well as democratic czechoslovakia formin austria hubagry( danubian federation)
A Turkish Intelligence Agency by the name of 31? You know your Turkish slangs, greatest Slovakian general dude.
I can't tell if you actually have a slavic / russian accent or if your just meme'ing MG but either way I enjoyed the video so thanks tovarisch ^~^
He's a Slovak.
I dont miss a video, my general. Im always willing to see you suffe- i mean have fun
wait first sponsor? havent seen one on you're videos is this a first?
Nah, I got sponsored even before this video
@@mountaingeneral ah that's nice to hear, anyway thanks for the content dude
Yo general, play plains huns aka Hungary
that Ğ 31 got me
wasn't really related to the video but I coughed and spat out a bunch of water and a non insignificant but still not threatening amount got onto my computer and I had to force shut down and make sure it was dry afterwards, thanks for the videos though I do like them
As a citizen of the German Democratic Reich, I like how Mountain General improved our country.
Please become the leader of our country irl too.
Nationalist China has one of the best democratic focus imo
Democratic Hungary. The most based focus tree in the game. Also, democratic independent New Zealand.
Mexican Catholic Democracy is OP too, you get ridiculous building bonuses and the hability to core the Caribbean, Central America and the US plus you have a free entry to te axis
Had a bad day, MG uploads, day better 😀
6:08 - Czechs: “Heyyyy boys, we’re BAAAACK!!”
6:35 "Mongolian-Dutch War" what
thank you general for your content
The best democratic country has to be Italy now. If you start the monarchist tree there is a democratic branch, that still allows you to do your expansion focuses on the right.
I always disliked how the German democratic tree is purely a videogame meta multiplayer tree instead of an actual historical path.
Since when did they extend the tech tree of Germany and Japan?! Is it a mod or a DLC? can you tell me what it is?
DLC Waking the Tiger
@@mountaingeneral thanks
@@dragorosso-pg9gb No problem
The best part about Turkey Democratic Path is the fact they have a unique sub-ideology.
There is a reason why after a couple episodes of HOI4 A-Z ISorrowProductions started fearing the prospect of Germany going democratic
10:05 based words bro
Texan Monarchy game play please!
Have you tried playing a game with Slavic303
I tried many times to liberate Japan from militarists before watching this. I hope that guide will be useful
You want the true experience? Try doing America but Lend-Leasing only. Good luck trying to get the Allies and Commintern to win, because the AI will only use fuel and guns. I remember getting really invested one playthrough, the Chinese-Japanese war had been going on for awhile, so I sent China like 50k guns, 2k Heavy tanks, and lots of artillery and planes. But China just kep losing. No idea at all as to why, I eventually tagged over to China and saw that they hadn't used any of my equipment besides the guns.
The AI has a certain path they want to go down, normally involving not fielding the largest tank fleet in the universe. They will only field more infantry when a certain date happens as well. So the AI won't ever use stuff besides the basics like guns and arty if even.
I refuse to believe there's any path but the ottoman path for turkey
Mountain General, how did you make videos with this voice? Was it a text-to-speech?
No its not text to speech
How did you use this voice?
@@KönigNicoBackup ? Because its my voice
Oh
The only problem of democratic Germany is a lack of human power. I was left with one million, huge economy, lots of territories but sadly no army or navy in the end
Best democratic path is mexico. You still can get all the conquest focuses so its not boring
Average fascist fans:
-Needs to expand early-game before the democrats become strong
-thinking world conquest is fun for the 100th time
Average democracy enjoyers:
-enjoys handicaps
-feels like the good guy
-doesn’t need war as a way to expand
It would be nice to have an option to play as an aggressive democracy in Hearts of Iron 4. Setting up your own faction and cleaning the world of communist and fascist bastards. Once I thought about Czechoslovakia having such an option, but it is very limited, because I had to set every major player as an aggresive asshole unless I wanted to use toolpack to declare wars.
IIRC, UK "no more appeasement" path does exactly that by allowing you to justify wargoal on nation that didn't generate world tention and giving you wargoal on every totalitarian European country
Hey mountain general
Tbh I prefer playing democratic I enjoy it a lot more than the other ideologies
I remember playing democratic nations because I felt good beating the bad guys. Then I played Germany and Japan and I cant go back to that shit...
I think that as democratic germany invading the soviet union, there should be events of ukrainians, bielorussians and other minorities revolting against soviet rule and joining your faction
Would be cool
Ещё хороший вариант демократической Болгарии (можно аннексировавть все балканы и национализировать их без войны)
Me who chose the kaiserreich path and is now at war with poland and the soviet union: oopsie
Vlasov joining Democratic Germany is simultaneously both blessed and cursed at once
I always let soviet cap Poland to gain free Danzig and Pozen
Democratic Bulgaria is insane. You get all the Balkans as cores without even needing to fight plus massive army bonuses and +2 building slots in every core state.
Is there a mission to restore the Ottoman sultan at the same being Democratic?
Fun fact: first doner kebabs were made in 1970s germany by Turkish immigrants.
I hope I will learn how to encircle enemy. It's basically essential part of a good run as lesser nation with own focus tree against main nations powers.
my first hoi4 game was no dlc democratic Germany
I am 4 seconds into the video and i can already feel the power of democracy in map games
"if anything bad happens to turkey, it is deserved" didnt age well lmao
“A country where nothing bad ever happenes, but if it did it would be deserved.”
Its Armenia genocide reference
@@mountaingeneral Based lol.
Great vid
how did you transferred the middle Asia to Kazakhstan?on peace conference
democratic Greece is VERY good you can do mengali idea and get cores in turkey and take them over with allies.
As Democratic Germany enjoyer i say it's 99% accurate
anybody know why hitler instantly kills himself when you capture berlin even when you almost capped