Best Democratic Nations in Hoi4 |Germany, Turkey, Japan|

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  • Опубликовано: 10 дек 2024

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  • @mountaingeneral
    @mountaingeneral  2 года назад +152

    Dont forget to get YAHAHA Studios for free here: mtchm.de/7m3p4

    • @failuretv814
      @failuretv814 2 года назад +14

      Why does your sponsor sounds like a laughter?

    • @JoaoPedro-vv8kh
      @JoaoPedro-vv8kh 2 года назад

      Hello mountain

    • @kajtekii4666
      @kajtekii4666 2 года назад +10

      @@failuretv814 hey, at least it's not raid shadow legends

    • @Lydorcc
      @Lydorcc 2 года назад

      10:25 Based

    • @polishkingdom6514
      @polishkingdom6514 2 года назад

      my favourite country is north korea!
      (please help)

  • @failuretv814
    @failuretv814 2 года назад +1573

    Democracy as a viable option in Hoi4?
    Impossible

    • @TheCatVtuber
      @TheCatVtuber 2 года назад +111

      they should add a real election mechanic, like how it works in mods like Equestria at War
      should give some flavor to democratic enjoyers

    • @walter3719
      @walter3719 2 года назад +42

      @@TheCatVtuberno just remove democracy

    • @panzertoffee4474
      @panzertoffee4474 2 года назад +20

      I play democracy most of the time and holy fuck it hurts

    • @dallas9397
      @dallas9397 2 года назад +1

      @@walter3719 a country needs to bomb another country, though. With a yin, there’s a yang.

    • @failuretv814
      @failuretv814 2 года назад +17

      @Mars Because it limits your gameplay. The main focus of the game is war, and democracies can only justify war goals against ppl who have created world tension or when world tension reaches 100%

  • @ZemanTheMighty
    @ZemanTheMighty 2 года назад +660

    I’ve always said that if you rush the research slots in the democratic Germany tree you can become extremely overpowered.
    Alternatively I’ve discovered that if you declare war on the Czechs and lose on purpose the French just change your government without puppeting you or taking your land. And you get to keep the normal focus tree… yeah it’s a bit broken

    • @Ryukuro
      @Ryukuro 2 года назад +47

      I need to try that Czech thing, sounds like an interesting time

    • @ZemanTheMighty
      @ZemanTheMighty 2 года назад +34

      @@Ryukuro maybe it doesn’t work with the new peace deal so don’t be disappointed. I haven’t tried it recently

    • @R-H-B
      @R-H-B 2 года назад +18

      You could side with the democratic rebellion during that event too

    • @Mapioe
      @Mapioe Год назад +4

      @@ZemanTheMighty its work

    • @albinskold8792
      @albinskold8792 Год назад +1

      yea like germany isn't already overpowered...

  • @drknight8546
    @drknight8546 2 года назад +457

    It’s funny how you can stablish wilhelm the third,the only dude in the german royal family that supported the nazis as kaiser and everyone is ok but when wilhelm the second is asked to be put in power,everyone starts going againt germany lmao

    • @jimmytogamer413
      @jimmytogamer413 2 года назад

      Because hes js the constitutional monarch like queen elizabeth they basically have no power at all except the prime minister or the president

    • @nohandleisavailable
      @nohandleisavailable 2 года назад +54

      Well technically he's just a figurehead and he didnt rule directly in a world war against old powers so it would make sense for everyone to not get so mad

    • @drknight8546
      @drknight8546 2 года назад +82

      @@nohandleisavailable still,imagine fighting so hard to push out the nazis only the restorationists put a kaiser that has connections to the nazis as head of state

    • @edelweiss7928
      @edelweiss7928 2 года назад +2

      @@drknight8546 he never had connections to NSDAP lmao, he met Hitler a few times but they were both using each other, he wanted to use Hitler to restore the monarchy, which obviously Hitler would never agree to, he hated the monarchy and the royals, but he knew he could use them to get a lot of support, when he actually had power, he completely cut off the prince and never met him again, the Hohenzollerns were no friends of NSDAP, they were as much an enemy as the Weimar Republic was

    • @lukaswilhelm9290
      @lukaswilhelm9290 2 года назад +42

      @@drknight8546 wait.. this sounds very familiar
      *Looking at Hirohito*

  • @Fake_Dozer
    @Fake_Dozer 2 года назад +659

    I find myself preferred democratic Roman Empire over other based Roman empire path.

    • @seatray_real
      @seatray_real 2 года назад +137

      Roman Republic enjoyer

    • @orrorsaness5942
      @orrorsaness5942 2 года назад +29

      @@seatray_real Revolutionary Roman Empire, The Constitutional Monarcchy reigns!

    • @dallas9397
      @dallas9397 2 года назад +5

      @@seatray_real fax

  • @Emel_unlegit
    @Emel_unlegit 2 года назад +145

    I remember a mod that was called 'better democratic germany' and the last focus was 'abolish democracy +' lmao

  • @BrkCntkn
    @BrkCntkn 2 года назад +197

    Ğ 31 is a certified Turkish moment. Thereby I award you, my Slovak brother as a honorary Turkish Community Member.

    • @mountaingeneral
      @mountaingeneral  2 года назад +42

      Thank you 🤝

    • @yusufislek3669
      @yusufislek3669 2 года назад +8

      As a Turkish Community Member, i approve the award. And hope the continuation of contribition to the community.

    • @yavuzkkocak7567
      @yavuzkkocak7567 2 года назад +5

      Indeed

    • @kunduraci30
      @kunduraci30 Год назад +3

      ​@@mountaingeneral you are now officialy Turkish

  • @michaelmutranowski123
    @michaelmutranowski123 2 года назад +177

    New Zealand's alternative Democracy path is the worst in the game as it just makes you independent from UK and makes you leave the Allies, that's it, it just ends

    • @koseku3
      @koseku3 Год назад +7

      peace is best option for new zealanders

    • @purple_menace6604
      @purple_menace6604 Год назад +24

      It is excellent for trolling in multiplayer as you're actively refusing to be useful to the allies while also refusing to be useful to Japan.

  • @dumpster-kun7132
    @dumpster-kun7132 2 года назад +78

    You guys might not notice it but he’s roleplaying Turkey IRL lol

    • @mountaingeneral
      @mountaingeneral  2 года назад +52

      Erdogan simulator 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🤘🤘🤘🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷

    • @AManWithNoName
      @AManWithNoName 2 года назад

      @@mountaingeneral Erdogan on his way to be a mastermind of foreign diplomacy but fuck up in everything else 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🤘🤘🤘🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷

    • @kingskeleton2427
      @kingskeleton2427 Год назад

      @@mountaingeneral fu?k erdoğan :)

  • @franrobert80
    @franrobert80 2 года назад +213

    I think that democratic Germany can actually annex Danzig and Posen if Poland is conquered by the USSR.

    • @evill01
      @evill01 2 года назад +76

      there's also events where danzig and austria join you by themselves, and czechoslovakia can do a focus to donate sudetenland

    • @nd6274
      @nd6274 2 года назад

      its Gdańsk and Poznań you nazi

    • @willimeister2553
      @willimeister2553 2 года назад +2

      @@evill01 how?

    • @dark_boy_86samadyar96
      @dark_boy_86samadyar96 2 года назад +1

      But the question is would core south tyrol too

    • @evill01
      @evill01 2 года назад +5

      @@willimeister2553 luck

  • @gamerz1172
    @gamerz1172 2 года назад +44

    Honestly while democratic alt history paths have never really been the best paths, ive noticed all of them are roleplay gold, Like democratic japan becoming a custodian for a future democratic asia, and germany uniting europe against soviet expansionism... That shit is amazing.

    • @Americancrusader2112
      @Americancrusader2112 2 месяца назад +1

      The mod Großdeutscher Bund really puts you in the shoes of Germany uniting Europe against the Soviets and after you can truly unite Europe and form the European Union. "From Paris to the Urals"

  • @linuxares
    @linuxares 2 года назад +9

    One of the better videos you've made my man! Great work!

  • @dorktriogamer2865
    @dorktriogamer2865 2 года назад +16

    I really like democratic paths for nations, in particular I like germanies Japan's and Netherlands, because it gives goals in them as well as the ability to fulfill them

  • @mlgsty8880
    @mlgsty8880 2 года назад +16

    I dont know how many times I have done Allies run as minor country only to end up being denied the territories in focus tree. Greece, Turkey, Netherlands etc.

  • @clasicpotato
    @clasicpotato 2 года назад +73

    So Germany just forms the EU (war edition)

  • @tugbasurmeli9958
    @tugbasurmeli9958 2 года назад +14

    Strong Karaboğa Power 🇹🇷🐺🇹🇷🐺🇹🇷🐺🇹🇷🐺🇹🇷🐺🇹🇷🐺🇹🇷🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿

  • @Fulllife3.2
    @Fulllife3.2 Год назад +8

    20:07 If you want an even faster end to the civil war you can delete all your divisions, take the divisions of Manchuria and Manchukuo, place them strategically in victory points beforehand and start the civil war (Instant capitulation!!).
    (Not my idea, I got it from a different youtuber)

  • @vadaa4
    @vadaa4 Год назад +5

    10:23 the name is killing me lmao!

  • @TarihTiryakisi
    @TarihTiryakisi 2 года назад +6

    Thanks for 31 Agency my Mountain Pasha, its so funny

  • @JamesWest1997
    @JamesWest1997 2 года назад +1

    keep up the great work man this was pretty good to watch

  • @bdj5134
    @bdj5134 2 года назад +22

    Another awesome country to stay democratic with is Mexico. You can pretty easily conquer most of Latin America, and then turn your might against the US

    • @doctorwhat779
      @doctorwhat779 2 года назад

      yeah that conquring latin america focuses do not require any ideology and it is great

  • @Т1000-м1и
    @Т1000-м1и Год назад +6

    Specific unique and niche focus trees are really refreshing when the last few DLCs were just "WAR"

  • @rockstachpl99
    @rockstachpl99 2 года назад +1

    Amazing video Man ❤❤❤

  • @nudny_kanal
    @nudny_kanal 2 года назад +1

    I just came home and got a video to watch!? Thank you dear General!

  • @isterlings
    @isterlings 2 года назад

    Always appreciate your uploads!

  • @grubygrzib6308
    @grubygrzib6308 Год назад +4

    I played Democratic germany and it was probably the easiest hoi4 game of my life. Despite playing on historical GB for some reason went fascist and declared war on france and usa and I managed to invite both of them into my faction. Thanks to that I managed to turn most major countries and basically all of europe against USSR. It was both easy and fun, it doesnt happen often to outnumber Soviet Union 3:1

  • @jangroberde2822
    @jangroberde2822 2 года назад +4

    26-minute video by Mountain General? Screw my math exam, I´m gonna watch this masterpiece!

  • @charakiga
    @charakiga Год назад +1

    9:51 if the blue lobster even is on a HOI4 video… where can I be safe? Can we even escape it?

  • @sebping7205
    @sebping7205 Год назад +2

    12:26 No, you don't really want to do this.
    There is a 45% chance that it does not work out and then you loose 5% stability, which is way too much if you ask me.
    I had a game where this did not work for quiet some time and I lost like 30 stability

  • @sejozwak
    @sejozwak 2 года назад +1

    I have exam tomorrow, but Plains Field Marshall had uploaded

  • @pieceofschmidtgamer
    @pieceofschmidtgamer Год назад +1

    Mountain General, your English is very good!
    This video about cake is very good too!

  • @purple8798
    @purple8798 2 года назад +6

    I love watching mountain general play swedish map game

  • @Aestholus
    @Aestholus 2 года назад +8

    If I remember right there is even a chance that you can core west prussia and poznan as democratic germany since poland gives it to you when it dies to sovjet russia.

  • @_LiteraJ_
    @_LiteraJ_ Год назад +1

    6:35 "Mongolian-Dutch War" what

  • @blazejl3540
    @blazejl3540 2 года назад +6

    I think that Bulgaria also have cool democratic focus tree

  • @etherealhawk
    @etherealhawk Год назад +6

    Try Mexico democratic. You can get the entire central America as cores, and put everyone else in the Americas into your faction

  • @ghostlyowl2302
    @ghostlyowl2302 2 года назад +5

    I'd say probably my favorite democratic path are Greece, megali idea is pretty much let UK and France kill turkey for you and get a bunch of land, and Bulgaria for the unifying the Balkans(though that's pretty much apart of all the paths)

  • @WateryChorus
    @WateryChorus Год назад +1

    MG, can you kindly play the wrost and best monarchist paths? Always watching your quality videos. ^^

  • @nohandleisavailable
    @nohandleisavailable 2 года назад +3

    Based democratic ideology enjoyer
    Only thing i wish for is that they allowed puppets with democracies, it just makes sense

    • @mountaingeneral
      @mountaingeneral  2 года назад +1

      Yes and also justify on democracies with the intent to topple corrupted governments

  • @Hirasawa_uwu
    @Hirasawa_uwu 2 года назад +1

    thank you general for your content

  • @poyloos4834
    @poyloos4834 2 года назад +4

    I honestly like playing democracies. I don’t always want to conquer, I want to be a good boy who obeys international law and defends the lesser democracies from harm (even though i do minor democracies.)

    • @andrewgreenwood9068
      @andrewgreenwood9068 2 года назад

      Democratic Australia is my jam. Playing a nation that just has to hold out until your allies come to help is really tense and way more enjoyable than invading the Soviet union as a fascist.

  • @mroguzhan1083
    @mroguzhan1083 2 года назад +4

    Loved your spy agency name for Turkey. Ğ 31 all the way. LOL

  • @A_W_L7207
    @A_W_L7207 2 года назад +1

    Had a bad day, MG uploads, day better 😀

  • @dragorosso-pg9gb
    @dragorosso-pg9gb 2 года назад +2

    Since when did they extend the tech tree of Germany and Japan?! Is it a mod or a DLC? can you tell me what it is?

  • @akerem4475
    @akerem4475 2 года назад +1

    10:23 I really like the name

  • @juniorfilhodejunior1752
    @juniorfilhodejunior1752 2 года назад

    I dont miss a video, my general. Im always willing to see you suffe- i mean have fun

  • @kiravatheargonian
    @kiravatheargonian 2 года назад +2

    I keep on thinking you’re Romani because your accent gives me strong Castlevania vibes 😂

  • @evenindeathiservetheomniss2822
    @evenindeathiservetheomniss2822 Год назад +1

    wait first sponsor? havent seen one on you're videos is this a first?

  • @republicoflukovrisia
    @republicoflukovrisia Год назад +2

    My favourite
    1 Japan
    2 Turkey
    3 Germany

  • @EnlighthenedOne123
    @EnlighthenedOne123 2 года назад +2

    A Turkish Intelligence Agency by the name of 31? You know your Turkish slangs, greatest Slovakian general dude.

  • @KingNicoBS
    @KingNicoBS 2 года назад

    Mountain General, how did you make videos with this voice? Was it a text-to-speech?

  • @fortis3686
    @fortis3686 2 года назад +4

    I’d also like to see you give Democratic France a try, since I’m having a hard time

    • @Kandall05161
      @Kandall05161 2 года назад +3

      If you have the dlcs, build an intelligence network in germany and just leave it there. The combat buffs associated with having 100% intel are super strong, and it makes the ai just give up on attacking you if you also have half decent divisions. It turns into world war 1 and buys you tons of time.

    • @nanoboso3656
      @nanoboso3656 Год назад +1

      Don't abandon the Czechs and you will have a way easier time

  • @Rivinick
    @Rivinick 2 года назад +3

    Playing as democratic Czechoslovakia is kinda cool, u can resist and eventually beat the germans and form Austria-Hungary

  • @ogscarl3t375
    @ogscarl3t375 Год назад +1

    I can't tell if you actually have a slavic / russian accent or if your just meme'ing MG but either way I enjoyed the video so thanks tovarisch ^~^

  • @kiberburjui9608
    @kiberburjui9608 2 года назад +1

    10:05 based words bro

  • @brandonp3491
    @brandonp3491 2 года назад

    Great vid

  • @StackND
    @StackND Год назад +1

    Me who chose the kaiserreich path and is now at war with poland and the soviet union: oopsie

  • @rasyaar5124
    @rasyaar5124 Год назад +1

    Yknow it is very true when teamwork makes the dream work

  • @lipo-tz2qn
    @lipo-tz2qn 2 года назад +1

    I live doing democratic byzantium and third rome.after the initial ideology switch you bank up demkcratic popularity and can still hold a referendum even after coups

    • @lipo-tz2qn
      @lipo-tz2qn 2 года назад +1

      The netherlands forming the eu is also really fun as well as democratic czechoslovakia formin austria hubagry( danubian federation)

  • @jimtalbott9535
    @jimtalbott9535 2 года назад

    6:08 - Czechs: “Heyyyy boys, we’re BAAAACK!!”

  • @hopfinatorischerkuchenkrieger
    @hopfinatorischerkuchenkrieger 2 года назад +4

    As a citizen of the German Democratic Reich, I like how Mountain General improved our country.
    Please become the leader of our country irl too.

  • @bober6730
    @bober6730 2 года назад

    wasn't really related to the video but I coughed and spat out a bunch of water and a non insignificant but still not threatening amount got onto my computer and I had to force shut down and make sure it was dry afterwards, thanks for the videos though I do like them

  • @AbyssalLord
    @AbyssalLord 2 года назад +82

    'A little bit longer video' bro I'd watch a 10 hour video if you released it - can never have enough Slavic mountain time!

  • @endzor
    @endzor Год назад +1

    14:59 you could go for bulgaria earlier, instead of taking focuses with Germany, its your bad timings, not game

  • @magarna
    @magarna 2 года назад +3

    that Ğ 31 got me

  • @fastcar7337
    @fastcar7337 2 года назад +2

    7:11 Israel???

  • @akend4426
    @akend4426 2 года назад

    Did you play with Historical AI on or off as Turkey and Japan?

    • @mountaingeneral
      @mountaingeneral  2 года назад

      Historical ai on on all playthroughs

    • @akend4426
      @akend4426 2 года назад

      Alright then. Thanks!
      Also, do you find it easier to do achievement runs with Historical AI on?

    • @mountaingeneral
      @mountaingeneral  2 года назад

      @@akend4426 with historical ai its more predictible

  • @Hatsuzu
    @Hatsuzu Год назад +1

    I refuse to believe there's any path but the ottoman path for turkey

  • @jakubkotas3617
    @jakubkotas3617 2 года назад +1

    The best democratic country has to be Italy now. If you start the monarchist tree there is a democratic branch, that still allows you to do your expansion focuses on the right.

  • @kiberburjui9608
    @kiberburjui9608 2 года назад +1

    21:23 take for FREE!!!

  • @mellonkistner3417
    @mellonkistner3417 Год назад +1

    Nationalist China has one of the best democratic focus imo

  • @johnsmith2591
    @johnsmith2591 2 года назад +1

    Democratic Hungary. The most based focus tree in the game. Also, democratic independent New Zealand.

  • @williamshandy8510
    @williamshandy8510 2 года назад +5

    Yo general, play plains huns aka Hungary

  • @truesurvivor585
    @truesurvivor585 2 года назад +1

    Have you tried playing a game with Slavic303

  • @mewokot
    @mewokot Год назад

    how did you transferred the middle Asia to Kazakhstan?on peace conference

  • @Redhead-pf8le
    @Redhead-pf8le 2 года назад

    Vlasov joining Democratic Germany is simultaneously both blessed and cursed at once

  • @matejbitman
    @matejbitman 2 года назад

    Ten přízvuk děláš, nebo je to přírodní?

  • @rambleroodle2369
    @rambleroodle2369 2 года назад +1

    11:38 i cannot agree more. just look at him man

  • @YungIsyan
    @YungIsyan Год назад +2

    "if anything bad happens to turkey, it is deserved" didnt age well lmao

    • @mountaingeneral
      @mountaingeneral  Год назад +2

      “A country where nothing bad ever happenes, but if it did it would be deserved.”
      Its Armenia genocide reference

    • @nazirbhat4759
      @nazirbhat4759 Год назад +2

      @@mountaingeneral Based lol.

  • @randompersonjustdoingsomething
    @randompersonjustdoingsomething 2 года назад +1

    i love MG's vids

  • @Archi.x002
    @Archi.x002 Год назад +1

    Is there a mission to restore the Ottoman sultan at the same being Democratic?

  • @oliverstianhugaas7493
    @oliverstianhugaas7493 2 года назад +1

    I always disliked how the German democratic tree is purely a videogame meta multiplayer tree instead of an actual historical path.

  • @HMS_Ramilles
    @HMS_Ramilles 10 месяцев назад +1

    Democracy doesen't mean peace, if the people want war that is what they get. Italy is the most fun democracy.

  • @bayrbckup
    @bayrbckup Год назад +1

    Bro 31 a coded curse

  • @geokou7645
    @geokou7645 Год назад +1

    my first hoi4 game was no dlc democratic Germany

  • @GeneralMacek
    @GeneralMacek 2 года назад +2

    It would be nice to have an option to play as an aggressive democracy in Hearts of Iron 4. Setting up your own faction and cleaning the world of communist and fascist bastards. Once I thought about Czechoslovakia having such an option, but it is very limited, because I had to set every major player as an aggresive asshole unless I wanted to use toolpack to declare wars.

    • @nanoboso3656
      @nanoboso3656 Год назад

      IIRC, UK "no more appeasement" path does exactly that by allowing you to justify wargoal on nation that didn't generate world tention and giving you wargoal on every totalitarian European country

  • @darksoulsismycity
    @darksoulsismycity 2 года назад

    There is a reason why after a couple episodes of HOI4 A-Z ISorrowProductions started fearing the prospect of Germany going democratic

  • @andrewgreenwood9068
    @andrewgreenwood9068 2 года назад

    Democratic Bulgaria is insane. You get all the Balkans as cores without even needing to fight plus massive army bonuses and +2 building slots in every core state.

  • @misterm1580
    @misterm1580 6 месяцев назад

    25:17 look to Kazakhstan, how give territory’s on you’re puppet on peace conference or this not work any more?

  • @BrownPotatoXD
    @BrownPotatoXD 2 года назад +1

    Hey mountain general

  • @pitozavr4308
    @pitozavr4308 2 года назад +2

    As Democratic Germany enjoyer i say it's 99% accurate

  • @otsogronberg6193
    @otsogronberg6193 2 года назад +1

    Best democratic path is mexico. You still can get all the conquest focuses so its not boring

  • @enceladus2381
    @enceladus2381 2 года назад +1

    Average fascist fans:
    -Needs to expand early-game before the democrats become strong
    -thinking world conquest is fun for the 100th time
    Average democracy enjoyers:
    -enjoys handicaps
    -feels like the good guy
    -doesn’t need war as a way to expand

  • @Whynt-e1f
    @Whynt-e1f Год назад

    The best part about Turkey Democratic Path is the fact they have a unique sub-ideology.

  • @TruePolishGuy
    @TruePolishGuy 2 года назад +1

    I hope I will learn how to encircle enemy. It's basically essential part of a good run as lesser nation with own focus tree against main nations powers.

  • @pabloalonso5827
    @pabloalonso5827 11 месяцев назад

    Mexican Catholic Democracy is OP too, you get ridiculous building bonuses and the hability to core the Caribbean, Central America and the US plus you have a free entry to te axis

  • @ExplosiveBanana9992
    @ExplosiveBanana9992 2 года назад

    I am 4 seconds into the video and i can already feel the power of democracy in map games

  • @floppingcheesettv2945
    @floppingcheesettv2945 2 года назад +1

    Tbh I prefer playing democratic I enjoy it a lot more than the other ideologies

  • @bramsturk619
    @bramsturk619 2 года назад

    These videos are best!!

  • @homefront1999
    @homefront1999 Год назад

    You want the true experience? Try doing America but Lend-Leasing only. Good luck trying to get the Allies and Commintern to win, because the AI will only use fuel and guns. I remember getting really invested one playthrough, the Chinese-Japanese war had been going on for awhile, so I sent China like 50k guns, 2k Heavy tanks, and lots of artillery and planes. But China just kep losing. No idea at all as to why, I eventually tagged over to China and saw that they hadn't used any of my equipment besides the guns.
    The AI has a certain path they want to go down, normally involving not fielding the largest tank fleet in the universe. They will only field more infantry when a certain date happens as well. So the AI won't ever use stuff besides the basics like guns and arty if even.